Honestly if someone told me about this treasure trove, I'd think it was a hoax. But no computer imagery or AI voices could ever generate anything this authentic and convincing. Wow, what a joy to see these!
The overall somber tone of this scene would have made a better ending for the episode. I'm glad we get a chance to see it. The brief interaction between Mr. Scott and the Captain is GOLD!
Especially considering James hated William. I just found out about that fairly recently, but when they both came up as actors in Canada, James was the bigger star, then played 4th fiddle on Star Trek to Shatner. Bitter pill!
Now, that is a great scene that ties up the story regarding Kirk's nephew, which is basically left hanging in the finished episode. Too bad it had to be cut.
@@rseward7183 I don't t think Kirk is abandoning Peter. Nowhere is is stated that Kirk is Peter's only living relative and that Peter is headed for the orphanage. It really explains nothing about David as David was created at a later date by different writers. I'm not the type of person to judge an artistic work in light of later contributions by artists unrelated to the original endeavor. For example, I don't let "ST:TWoK", wreck the ending of "Space Seed" by answering Spock's speculation, "It would be interesting, Captain, to return to that world in 100 years and learn what crop had sprung from the seed you planted today."
It's amazing that we're still seeing new things from TOS almost 60 years later. I prefer this ending. Kirk lost his brother in this episode and then all is forgotten by the end of it. This shows Kirk's continued sadness over what happened and what could have happened. Good stuff. It was a little clunky as far as his interaction with Peter. They could have made it more personal but overall, quite the different take.
Like everyone else, I just want to thank you for posting these. I never thought I’d be seeing new TOS clips this many years since I first watched the series.
You are so very, very welcome, Wmeisel. I noticed that none of these were on RUclips, or on the internet, and I thought, so many Star Trek fans have never even seen these, so, with God's help, I decided to be the one to bring them to light. Thank you so much for your excellent and encouraging comments. God bless you today.
For a lot of these scenes there's a reason why they ended up on the cutting room floor, but it would have been nice if this one could have been left in.
Too bad some version of this scene didn't make it in, maybe the producers deemed it a too heavy ending. It was kind of weird how the episode opens with this huge tragedy for Kirk, and by the end it's forgotten amid the usual jokes about Spock. The dialogue between Kirk and Scottie is priceless.
Grover Cleveland to little F.D.R. (apocryphal?): I am going to make you a strange wish: May you never become President of the United States. Difference is, he never experienced at that age whatever made Cleveland say that.
This would've been good to keep. The actor appearing again in season three as a different character wouldn't have been all that bad. Other actors reappear in episodes as a different character.
Fantastic scene-but had it been retained, his role in “And The Children Shall Lead” as Tommy Starnes would forever have been seen in an oddly different light by fans.
@ Well I realize that. What I’m suggesting is that seeing the actor as Tommy Starnes would illicit a feeling like “Captain Kirk’s nephew went to the ‘dark side’…?”, or something similar.
Kirk really didn’t play the good uncle here…the poor kid lost his parents and almost died…..you would think that Kirk could have at least accompanied him to the transporter instead of assigning a security guard to do it.
Where did you manage to fine these deleted clips? I've been a Trecker for over 30 years, and I've never seen them. It's so great to see something new from the old series. Thank you!!
I believe the last mention of the boy, is when Spock says, prior to the discovery that light kills the organisms, that he and the boy should beam down to the planet prior to the Enterprise destroying it.
A MUCH better result would have been for Kirk to say he would take Peter to his maternal grandparents and Peter to call him Uncle jim. I am glad this wound up on the cutting room floor.
I agree with you 100% on Peter going to his maternal grandparents. That is something that D.C. Fontana or Gene should have thought of, and went with that storyline instead. Thank you for your excellent comments.
Excellent clip, to bad it wasn't included in the final cut of the episode. It show that Kirk's nephew fully recovered and he had some kind of future waiting for him. However, this actor reappears in the third season in "The Children Shall Lead," as Tommy, whose father and mother were killed by a malevolent force. I guess he wasn't bound for a stable home life on Star Trek. Thanks Again.
He may not have had a stable home, but the actor, Craig Hundley, went on to do music for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and Star Trek IV. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
This is what hacks me off, ROYALLY, about all the "NuTrek." There was never, ever, any hint about the trauma James T. Kirk suffered when his parents were killed by Kodos the Executioner. They simply blew it all off. Here? Kirk talking to his nephew, perhaps the only family he has left? You see a glimpse of his pain, AND the empathy he feels for a boy who lost his parents? Who knows? Maybe kirk was the same age when his parents were killed. A candle to Star Trek? Hell, NuTrek, isn't even a match that lights the candle!
Yah... no. Glad they didn't go that route. Made Kirk look like a jerk. And, besides, we really didn't have any dialogue from Peter earlier, just some bad acting, so there wasn't anything to be gained in this little scene.
I COMPLETELY disagree with you. I don't know why you say Kirk looks like a jerk here, he doesn't, especially after he explains himself to Scotty. This would have been a better ending. Somber, yes. And better.
@@Jon-be9yy Well, I guess you aren't a parent, because I wouldn't pat my freshly orphaned 10-12 year old nephew on the head, leave him with strangers and send an escort with him to the transporter... Kinda jerk thing to do.
@@Jon-be9yy The interaction between Kirk and Peter was a bit stiff. Of course, Kirk probably hasn't seen the kid since he was a baby so they're virtual strangers, which would make the awkwardness 100% accurate.
Honestly if someone told me about this treasure trove, I'd think it was a hoax. But no computer imagery or AI voices could ever generate anything this authentic and convincing. Wow, what a joy to see these!
It is too bad they deleted this scene. Thanks for sharing it.
You are very welcome! I agree with you. I am so glad you are enjoying these deleted scenes. 🖖
The overall somber tone of this scene would have made a better ending for the episode. I'm glad we get a chance to see it. The brief interaction between Mr. Scott and the Captain is GOLD!
Especially considering James hated William. I just found out about that fairly recently, but when they both came up as actors in Canada, James was the bigger star, then played 4th fiddle on Star Trek to Shatner. Bitter pill!
Now, that is a great scene that ties up the story regarding Kirk's nephew, which is basically left hanging in the finished episode. Too bad it had to be cut.
A bigger complaint is that Kirk is abandoning Peter. Explains a bit of David doesn't it? Why didn't Peter call him Uncle Jim?
@@rseward7183 I don't t think Kirk is abandoning Peter. Nowhere is is stated that Kirk is Peter's only living relative and that Peter is headed for the orphanage. It really explains nothing about David as David was created at a later date by different writers. I'm not the type of person to judge an artistic work in light of later contributions by artists unrelated to the original endeavor. For example, I don't let "ST:TWoK", wreck the ending of "Space Seed" by answering Spock's speculation, "It would be interesting, Captain, to return to that world in 100 years and learn what crop had sprung from the seed you planted today."
It was cut to make room for a joke about Spock's Vulcan ears.
It's amazing that we're still seeing new things from TOS almost 60 years later. I prefer this ending. Kirk lost his brother in this episode and then all is forgotten by the end of it. This shows Kirk's continued sadness over what happened and what could have happened. Good stuff. It was a little clunky as far as his interaction with Peter. They could have made it more personal but overall, quite the different take.
And the children shall lead of course that's different episode no Gorgon on this episode
Wow! This was a deep ending. Honestly, I appreciate Peter calling Kirk "Sir" But, I thought 'Uncle Jim" would've been more personal.
Sir was appropriate in this case.
This scene was great! I was always disappointed they didn’t flesh out Kirk more after his bother died. A shame it was deleted
Very impactful scene!
Like everyone else, I just want to thank you for posting these. I never thought I’d be seeing new TOS clips this many years since I first watched the series.
You are so very, very welcome, Wmeisel. I noticed that none of these were on RUclips, or on the internet, and I thought, so many Star Trek fans have never even seen these, so, with God's help, I decided to be the one to bring them to light. Thank you so much for your excellent and encouraging comments. God bless you today.
They should have left this one in. Shows Kirks humanity.
These are fantastic I feel like I'm watching real Star Trek again keep them coming 👍🖖
Heard of this scene for years!
Yes, I've seen a still from this scene, but never the whole thing. Very interesting addition to the episode.
I had seen stills of this for years but finally saw it a few years ago. According to several different fan productions, Peter did join Starfleet.
Thank you Gene for swapping out this 'downer' for the upbeat ending that kept us coming back for more.
For a lot of these scenes there's a reason why they ended up on the cutting room floor, but it would have been nice if this one could have been left in.
Too bad some version of this scene didn't make it in, maybe the producers deemed it a too heavy ending. It was kind of weird how the episode opens with this huge tragedy for Kirk, and by the end it's forgotten amid the usual jokes about Spock. The dialogue between Kirk and Scottie is priceless.
Grover Cleveland to little F.D.R. (apocryphal?): I am going to make you a strange wish: May you never become President of the United States.
Difference is, he never experienced at that age whatever made Cleveland say that.
This is a heck of a scene. As they say, wait for it.....
This would've been good to keep.
The actor appearing again in season three as a different character wouldn't have been all that bad. Other actors reappear in episodes as a different character.
Fantastic scene-but had it been retained, his role in “And The Children Shall Lead” as Tommy Starnes would forever have been seen in an oddly different light by fans.
Oh man. I am so embarrassed I didn't recognize the actor. Great catch!
"And The Children Shall Lead" was probably the worst episode in the entire series.
@ Yes-I’d rather watch “The Way to Eden” than that bilge.
Nah. Lots of actors played multiple roles in Star Trek, most notably Mark Lenard.
@ Well I realize that. What I’m suggesting is that seeing the actor as Tommy Starnes would illicit a feeling like “Captain Kirk’s nephew went to the ‘dark side’…?”, or something similar.
Kirk really didn’t play the good uncle here…the poor kid lost his parents and almost died…..you would think that Kirk could have at least accompanied him to the transporter instead of assigning a security guard to do it.
True
.. dammit Jim that's family 😆 or his brother either Sam you're dead oh well🤷♂️
I thought the same thing. At least walk him downstairs and see him off. I know this ain't no touchie-feelie TNG, but come on, Jim.
True, but he needed to have his dialog with Scotty to show is emotional scarring.
He'll do some music for star trek the motion picture 🖖
But he has to defeat the Gorgon first. 😂
He invented that musical instrument!
@@edwardbailey9759 The Blaster Beam *BOUNGGGGGGGGGG!*
I'd love to see deleted scenes added to reruns
Like the superfan episodes for The Office do.
And thus began a relationship between Craig Hundley and Star Trek that would last through TMP.
Where did you manage to fine these deleted clips? I've been a Trecker for over 30 years, and I've never seen them. It's so great to see something new from the old series. Thank you!!
It's interesting that neither McCoy nor Spock, Kirk's usual confidants, are in this scene.
I'm glad he wasn't in the children's will lead episode in this one
i never realised the boy survived
I believe the last mention of the boy, is when Spock says, prior to the discovery that light kills the organisms, that he and the boy should beam down to the planet prior to the Enterprise destroying it.
Good scene.
fascinating
A MUCH better result would have been for Kirk to say he would take Peter to his maternal grandparents and Peter to call him Uncle jim. I am glad this wound up on the cutting room floor.
I agree with you 100% on Peter going to his maternal grandparents. That is something that D.C. Fontana or Gene should have thought of, and went with that storyline instead. Thank you for your excellent comments.
Excellent clip, to bad it wasn't included in the final cut of the episode. It show that Kirk's nephew fully recovered and he had some kind of future waiting for him. However, this actor reappears in the third season in "The Children Shall Lead," as Tommy, whose father and mother were killed by a malevolent force. I guess he wasn't bound for a stable home life on Star Trek. Thanks Again.
He may not have had a stable home, but the actor, Craig Hundley, went on to do music for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, and Star Trek IV. Thank you for your excellent comments. 👍🖖
That's very interesting; thanks for sharing.
Kind of a downbeat ending. I understand why they went with Spock's cheap joke.
He looks like the same kid from And The Children Shall Lead.
You're right. He is. He also is a musician, and inventor, and played his instrument in the Star Trek movies. His name is Craig Hundley.
So Kirk’s nephew did recover from the “alien invasion” of his body.
Was this an alternate ending where the producers had to choose between this or the silly "Vulcan ears" ending?
Where the heck did you get these?
This is what hacks me off, ROYALLY, about all the "NuTrek." There was never, ever, any hint about the trauma James T. Kirk suffered when his parents were killed by Kodos the Executioner. They simply blew it all off. Here? Kirk talking to his nephew, perhaps the only family he has left? You see a glimpse of his pain, AND the empathy he feels for a boy who lost his parents? Who knows? Maybe kirk was the same age when his parents were killed. A candle to Star Trek? Hell, NuTrek, isn't even a match that lights the candle!
It's never said in canon that Kodos killed Kirk's parents. It was Riley's parents that were killed.
Not sure anything could make this episode worse, but this scene might have done it.
Yah... no. Glad they didn't go that route. Made Kirk look like a jerk. And, besides, we really didn't have any dialogue from Peter earlier, just some bad acting, so there wasn't anything to be gained in this little scene.
I COMPLETELY disagree with you. I don't know why you say Kirk looks like a jerk here, he doesn't, especially after he explains himself to Scotty. This would have been a better ending. Somber, yes. And better.
@@Jon-be9yy Well, I guess you aren't a parent, because I wouldn't pat my freshly orphaned 10-12 year old nephew on the head, leave him with strangers and send an escort with him to the transporter... Kinda jerk thing to do.
@@Jon-be9yy The interaction between Kirk and Peter was a bit stiff. Of course, Kirk probably hasn't seen the kid since he was a baby so they're virtual strangers, which would make the awkwardness 100% accurate.
@@Jon-be9yy it really showed how the weight of his command affected him.
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