the problem is with the old content creators, is that they refuse to acknowledge that wuthering waves is a new game and you need a new way to talk about , and THEY have to learn and understand the game then make content about it. most content creators are like " wuthering waves doesn't have XYZ and doesn't play like ABC, and should have 123, like game X game etc" i dont need or want to hear these kind of talking points, talk about the game as it is, when Varus says that there is no synergy, he isnt saying the truth "there are different synergies" its just there isnt the synergy they want. Sanhua works at base investment, but with more investment her damage is good " 100k per her 3 second field time" , the elemental reaction system in genshin restricts the team building, and also makes some characters absolute , genshin players are still using bennet till this dasy, how boring is that? . gernshin content creators have brain rot tbh, LEARN THE GAME lol omg
This bring back how tectone try punishing gray raven. Which are different from hi3 and aether gazer. Also can include zzz now imo. Why ? The ping or system.
Just nitpicking here, but Bennet being meta has nothing to do with the reaction system. He could be literally any other element, and he would still be meta. The reason he is still used is because the Genshin team refuses to release another character that buffs attack to the degree that Bennet does.
Vars' video on the team building is definitely flawed. But saying his point is "there are no synergy" is a gross oversimplification to his criticism that albeit flawed, have some merits in it. Please, watch his full video and dont just listen to saintontas' pausing every 15 seconds to go on a random rant kind of breakdown. > the elemental reaction system in genshin restricts the team building, and also makes some characters absolute This is a half truth. If you see many of the more recent characters or heck, some of the old ones. Elemental reaction system has nothing to do with how some of them become an absolute And while genshin's elemental reaction system does "limits team building" per se. Its more on how its designed to be rather than the existense of an elemental system inherently limits team building imo. Vars also never really said that one would have to use genshin's reaction system as the baseline as to how an elemental system should be designed. He simply said theres no reason to use certain attributes in one team thus making the attribute system obsolete > genshin players are still using bennet till this dasy, how boring is that? Bennet's reign of terror has nothing to do with how good he is for the elemental reaction system. He in fact doesnt even use the elemental reaction system. HE is good for the simple fact that he does everything and buff a shit ton. To frame him as a reason as to why elemental reaction system is bad is the same as trying to frame sanhua as to why concerto system of wuwa is bad.
So summary is Both three agree on Vars II made low effort video on wuwa and sanitontas 5 hr breakdown about it is not okay. Brax is okay with cc making low effort video and talk negative about games or websites. But He wants no negative react to that cc. It seems Tectone and Saint are not okay it like either stop making a negative video or open-minded to criticism. So even though Saintontas is agree to tone down his voice in the future and Brax is still not okay with it . The end.
Brax made a follow up video on his second channel tht explains his points better. He isnt a debater like saint or tectone is so naturally he was at a disadvantage here. Had he asked “should I stop making guides” instead of “should I quit the game” after trying fallacy, i think that would of been the better question
Brax is one of those guys that tries to be the best friend with everyone and is afraid of offending someone he likes, while Saintontas and Tectone are like "Your video is shit , get better next time or get lost"
48:46 IDK how you can look at any characters in this game and say they're the same tbh. Mechanically every character has something that sets them apart from other characters. Yeah, I guess, if you boil everything down to "player presses buttons, something happens" it can seem like that; but that's such a disingenuous take.
Brax's comment here that Varina and SK are the same just makes me lose brain cells. Clearly, he doesn't invest enough time in WW to tell the difference. So, why are his opinions even considered here?
Unlike Genshin, unlike any other Hoyoverse game. Wuthering Waves requires skill. Whether you whale or not. No skill, no thought, no result. As simple as THAT.
Genshin/HSR/ZZZ is all standard hoyoslop. Low skill floor and low skill-ceiling. Four-stars in WuWa have more mechanical depth than characters in YEAR 4 OF GENSHIN
Thats a Lie and a really unexpected one. ANY Game requires skill. You probably would even die in Rune Factory if you dont pay attention. EVEN SPONGEBOB Battle of Bikini Bottom requires skill to beat the game easy. PGR Requires MUCH more skill than WuWa, WuWa is quite casual compared to PGR. WuWa requires slightly more skill than Honkai 3rd and ZZZ. And both of them require more skill than Genshin and HSR. And it keeps going. But in the End, WuWa difficulty is still below Dark Souls Tutorial Diffculty. That said, stop acting like other Games can be casually beat by a person who never touched a game in their entire Life.
@@300y1 Doesnt have anything to do with skill right? If we start comparing like this. Then PGR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WuWa. WuWa is made for newborn if you compare it to other Kuro Game.
If you have a decent build every gacha is just smash buttons 😂 but wuwa has a higher skill ceiling that's it. It's not hard, doesn't require skill to clear any endgame content atleast till now
@ReviewBonfire 1. you missed the point, I'm not putting PGR on the equation since it's a game from Kuro, not Hoyoverse. 2. If tutorial from Dark Souls gives you more problems than Morning Aix Hologram at MAX level, you're doing something wrong. 3. We are with the supposed case of being at least a casual gamer level. Cause that's the biggest demographic in the game industry. I'm comparing WuWa with HOYOVERSE games. Don't go through the tangent.
One of the things that most probably pissed Saintontas (as it did for me) is not the takes Vars did in his video, but the fact that his video was titled "The Problem With Wuthering Waves' Teambuilding" which gives the impression of objectivity and is just riddled with both misinformation and bad takes, and that is a big problem. Vars is NOT a small content creator, his videos gets tens if not hundreds of thousands of views for each one he uploads. The fact that he released a video that presents itself as objective (even if it does not explicitly state so) and is just outright problematic, coupled with his massive following, ultimately damages the reputation of the game itself. Yes, I get that people do bad takes every now and then, make a couple of mistake in judgement--but that does not absolve you of that potential harm that you are capable of doing. Great power comes with great responsibility. And jumping over to Saint's POV, watching someone with such influence in the gacha space (where reputation for the game has big influence to attracting new players, because of how gacha games are designed) damage the reputation of the game that he loves and wants to do well... it's honestly infuriating, especially since Vars had some actual good takes at the beginning. There's also the fact that the B-rolls themselves were also terribly played, it gives off the impression that Vars is treating the game like a joke, that it's an out of season April fools joke--except that it's not. I loved Var's videos, even if he does yap a lot in them. He was my go to guy when it comes to HSR and Genshin content, but after seeing what he did with Wuthering Waves, I do not trust him the same way as before. Of course, it's my own feelings and people probably won't care. But I do no believe that I'm the only one who felt like this watching his video. It's a shame, but I can only hope everyone acknowledges where they went wrong and learns from it. For everyone's sake.
I’m coming from Genshin and ppl fail to understand how terrible it is what vars did, if u only play Genshin more than likely you would blindly trust his opinion since he’s so dependable when it comes to Genshin content 🤦🏽♂️either he did this on purpose as a smear campaign or he’s getting old and losing it because it makes no sense
Yup. It can totally be infuriating with a game you're passionate about, but at the end of the day, it's a video game and it's not all that deep. I just hope these CCs could finally move on and grow from all this bullshit.
@ saying it’s a video game to invalidate someone’s emotions is very dumb, not everything that matters to u matters to everyone else and vice versa, a lot of ppl are passionate about art work and it’s literally just pixels or paint on a canvas, does that mean they shouldn’t be passionate about it? I don’t care about kids but I wouldn’t say a mothers love for her child isn’t important or a big thing🤷🏽♂️but hey that’s just me, I can think beyond myself and what I believe
@@crownedking_cj8890 yeah these people are letting people that spread misinformations scot-free instead of letting them take responsibility. I honestly dont like Saintontas aggressiveness and overglazing of wuwa. BUT, i think WuWa community will be worse if there is no someone like him correcting those misinformations especially from r/gachagaming which is outright malicious.
Nah, even before when he was making content for Genshin and have his *Why noone plays series*, he had some really bad takes, and it just takes 3-4 vids. to judge his criticism about the game and would bring the internet against him. I dunno about that time if he's doing it for the clicks or doing it intentionally, but widening his scope and at last, encountering Saintontas is just like catching a shark when u just want to catch some fish. He hit a wall with this one if I say so myself, and does he deserve it? Maybe not, coz noone want to wish ill to others, morally speaking, but if incompetence and growing from it is what he would take from it, maybe yes.
I've been playing gacha games for many years but only started interacting with gacha content this year, It's funny how gacha games are one of the chillest and laidback games but the communities are hella toxic (seems worse than league actually) and the funniest thing is how a lot of gacha CCs don't even play the games they talk about or make guides about. People have been talking shit about Saintontas and while he misspoke sometimes and can have bad temperament which makes him appear rude, he's also been exposing how a lot of CCs don't know shit about WuWa (mostly the ones coming from HSR) while also covering the game and making guides. I understand that they cover WuWa to eventually make more content so more money which is fine but when you don't know anything about the game you shouldn't be making critics about the game (which I'm guessing are also made for the bag since it attracts a lot of people) and then act surprised that someone comes at you afterwards.
Yeah, I didn't realize it was like this at first either - like mmorpgs got heated for pvp stuff which is still stupid but it makes more sense because those players are chasing for leaderboard positions.....anyway the thing that is so frustrating is that all Saint's solid critique get's overshadowed and derailed by rage ranting so that it's a mix of logical with illogical. I fully agree with getting angry at how disingenuous these other creators are and no excuse for why you didn't put in effort justifies that ppl came to your video to learn more about the game and have no clue that you can't even be bothered to make sure you even know the game yourself........that's so shady and I think Saint is totally right calling it out.
@@trashbuilds8351 I guess people have to find something else to talk about besides building up drama to fill the lack of content between the patches. Same pattern everytime, 2 weeks of actual content when a new patch is out then 4 weeks full of drama. This is even worse when it's a filler patch too.
@@Khalil_B That's true, and I know it's harder to get videos seen unless there's a "problem" or a game is "ruined." I don't mind people offering reflective critique during uneventful patches - but can we just discuss it normally lol.
he's also being passive aggressive in the comments - some real pokke bs going on around here. its clear brax is still mad his friend got called out (rightfully so)
@@animeao6980brax is originally from Genshin, I wouldn’t trust his sponsored and early access opinions to elevate another game like wuwa over Genshin🤷🏽♂️that’s like me trusting the opinion of an employee at Popeyes telling me their food taste better than kfc, ofc ur gonna say that duh🤣🤣
@@crownedking_cj8890 I think you missed the point they were trying to make in that this "community" is beginning to have an "us versus them" mentality. Why even bring up his roots of Genshin to begin with in relation to this drama? The drama is over Brax defending Vars's shit takes and Saint's nuclear react over B-roll footage lmao. I don't even know why this is drama to begin with bc this shit isn't all that deep.
Brax, I understand you're defending your friend disingenuously but c'mon man, shorekeeper is verina pro max? You don't need swap cancelling in dual dps comps? You also don't know the game and you're talking about it like you do, literally what your friend did... at least you admitted at the end unlike Vars
Vars poops on wuwa Saint argue with logic Brax: don't create a 5 hour video using logic because you're pooping on Mars. Lol what. There's a cc criticizing the game and potentially drawing hate towards the game's community. Saint is breaking his claims apart and all Brax can say is "stop it because i don't like how this can potentially hurt my friend's feelings."
I think the best counter agrument to the team synergy's/Building is ZZZ and its hyperspecific roles that lock you into certain teams which is honestly CREATING a Meta creep so early into the game. But part of that meta creep may just be them wanting to make more sales.
@@Lopaloosthe anomaly meta zzz is starting to create specific team for the end game modes it feels like It's following the path of HSR to boost sales.
Any streamer who touched Hoyo games, made it their career eventually becomes a Problem. That Community ALWAYS has an issue, mostly because westerners keep forgetting that the game is CHINESE. The representations made in the game was through asian people eyes, and westerners always make it a big deal if it didn't go their way. There's a reason why English Paimon speaks in 3rd person cuz they can't use they/them pronouns, it was until SHE was confirmed female only a year after launch. Streamers then migrate from Hoyo games to Wuwa and makes the same problem. Imagine if they do that same thing to NTE, Ananta, The Breakers and HoK:World.
Personally i'm looking forward to Ananta and i'll give Endfield a try too, just hope their communities don't become toxic and have to constantly seek validation by comparing it to Hoyo games every single time like wuwa does.
This is why Saintontas is my favourite creator. Level-headed, logical arguments, always got very valid points, doesn't shy away from confrontation, and not afraid to speak against the masses. I'm only getting back to creating content specifically for Wuthering Waves (on an alt channel) just to support.
of course you can play the game if you aren't good at it. The issue remains in whether you should be making guides or discussion videos on it. It's like me, a high school drop out, trying to tell others what quantum physics is. I don't understand enough of it to tell anyone about any of that, so I won't try. Brax had a fair point in the fact that you could've went about it a bit softer than ripping into Vars like that, and I still think Ryuuku sensei was right about the lack of echo exp. Most people I know have maxed out their echo inventory at least once, but we never had enough echo exp to roll them. If you do look at the math, 1 tacit field run = 3 gold + 4 purple (or 4 gold + 4 purple) tubes. You need 3 gold + 1 purple (or 8 purple + 1 blue/1 green) to bring an echo to lvl10, which is what I do to check for the 2 first rolls. If there's a crit roll that isn't a minimum roll, I keep rolling. You don't even have enough to level 2 echoes to lvl10, but you get 4 echoes (sometimes 5 I believe) from a single tacit field run. That's not enough echo exp, even with the events giving us more.
You know they have no argument when their problem is tone policing, they care more about being fake positivity than being honest and direct, what a bunch of clowns.
@@incognitobutnotprobably a naive kid, he doesn't understand that civilization will not even exist if people were not able to see problems as it is and tell people about it in the most unambiguous way possible to not waste anyone's time.
Brax revealing in real-time that he doesn’t play WuWa for more than he needs to make his initial guide. You literally cannot face tank damage in this game. These bosses force you to respect the game mechanics.
27:46 don't even need Fallacy, that cat is also one of the most annoying enemy to be fighting with. If not stunning it down quickly, it just gonna go around and around in the air the entire time lol
*Yeah everything becomes easy when you fully build your characters* while the guy hasn't even unlock the hazardzone, boy I'm sure he didn't even clear the 3rd floors of holograms
Brax the kinda guy to do a charity stream for donos while spending thousands on gachas...then saying he is struggling with the cost of living in LA in a YT vid, while also been on stream at the same bloody time laughing about how he just spent thousands on the chiori banner. Brax is doing the same things he cried about Atsu doing to him. Tectones done a real good job removing Atsu's clique and creating his own doing the exact same things. While also farming drama revenue because if you take away that. He has nothing.
@@leech1806 I hope he gets help. It’s an actual shame seeing how much Brax also talked about what Atsu did and yet Brax is literally doing the same things he called out Atsu for.
Wait how does that first sentence about money, cost-of-living, and spending on Chiori's banner even relate to this drama? You know you could've just said that Brax is a hypocrite straight from the get-go and go from there lol.
one problem for me that saint says is that he is a sponsored content creator, if he spreads misinformation people are gonna follow that because they trust him for the fact he is an experienced gacha player, a day 1 player or almost day 1 player, and on top of that a sponsored CC, so if he just says "its a bad game" or " this character is just like this character" its not good for the game/company since he is just hurting their "revenue". Not like i care if Kuro Games makes more or less money, but as a sponsored CC, you should understand that if you're gonna make a video point stuff about a game and then give bad points that may drive people away from the game or from pulling a character, you should have the points and experience to back those claims. Love the wholesome ending tho.
even they say that " if you're getting paid you should put in the effort" and then teccy says that "no one does that". That is semi-fine, but one thing is making a "low quality" sponsored video, another thing is making a sponsored video that may even cause "damage" to the company/product you're promoting.
This was great discussion Saintontas. Comapred to what happened with gacha smack this discussion was good stuff. Actually talking about the issue and pressing the point without losing your kool.
at the end of the day, whether we like it or not, we live in a world where we need to deliver our points across in a certain way for more people to be willing to listen, whether it's the tone or the word choice. it happens outside of gacha gaming and irl too. it's totally reasonable to get heated, especially if the problems occur regularly, but that's how we gotta handle it
@@gwanetayla7683 im not disagreeing with the points saintontas made. im saying people nowadays dont listen unless we say things in a certain way. but once u hit that tone, u can tell them they're wrong in 20 different ways and theyd still listen. it's not ideal but sadly thats how most people handle confrontation. thats why some people write saintontas off as a kuro shill because they leave before listening to the entire point he's making even tho hes right
Brax just seems like an unreliable guide maker tbh. Admitted he gets sponsored to make guides and also admits that he's not good enough to make a quality guide... I'm glad i came across your channel before finding out about these other subpar channels. He's scrambling to defend himself but has no good foundation. Like him talking about how he thinks two dps characters can hyper carry on the same team... That literally goes against the logic of hyper carry lmao
I think his HSR guides are fine, but it doesn't really take much skill to play it and reading off their kits is enough to understand the mechanics of the new characters. Brax's issue for WuWa is that he doesn't actually understand the base principles about WuWa's game mechanics and is just using the same strat from HSR where he just reads off a character's kit for his "guides" when he himself doesn't understand it or how to actually play the game.
Most gacha CCs (CCs that jump on the current popular gacha) are unreliable.. The best guides are from smaller CCs who are dedicated to one game or players who just play games and posts it, not make content for it.
If he doesnt understand the game why in the world is he commenting about it? I bet most veteran players at this pont would make more valid critizism than him about wuwa.
@@gwanetayla7683 tell me about it. Two health bars AND the freaking meteor shower. Add to that not having any parryable attacks while in his first phase, and he was unbearable to fight.
They can't just make you out to be the villain after tilting you with immense negligence to your wellbeing. Don't interact with them please. You are allowed to enjoy this game without being part of the Creator space, we like you for the way you like things and the way you stand for them. Please don't let these people call you anything. As an Aspie/AuDHD person, I know how difficult it must be for you to navigate a space that had bad eggs from before your time. Don't engage content creators whose sole purpose is to make money. They will ride off of your coattail, and drag you down on the way. Don't be angry, it will only fuel them. We are here for you, here to love this game and the creators working hard on making it. You are allowed to, and welcome to, have a specific thing you like, and you are allowed to engage with it in a vaccuum, uninfluenced by the rest of the scene. You are allowed to just love this game and tell us about it, without having to explain yourself to Brax, Tectone, or anyone else! You don't have to fight this fight, I promise you that you are better off not honoring their requests to dialogue or debate. You do not owe them anything. You owe yourself whatever is best for you, and trying to debate bullies is not mandatory! You are not responsible to fight that fight! None of us expect you to! Don't be taunted by those who would signal virtue where there is none, and argumentative fallacies because they have no other way to discredit you. Your recent reactions to things are understandable. They will keep winding you up more, and pushing you to react this way so often, however, that they will paint your character as the aggressive guy. We know that is not the case. So, please, firstly know that we are here to have fun WITH and ALONGSIDE you. Then, consider not honoring their calls for debate anymore, and only engage with people who wish to have friendly collaborations instead! Don't waste your time with bullies, they will turn you into them. Stay pure as you are, and don't let them shame you for doing just that! They don't deserve your hours. They don't deserve your effort. Let them cry about it for a while, but if you don't mind them, they will get bored eventually :D Vibesvibesvibes
"Make you out to be the villain'" Saintontas spends his time personally attacking other content creators and spreading negativity around the wuwa community space. Don't start crying when you hit someone and they hit you back
Bracks: "I would prefer characters be mandatory for specific teamcomps so Hoyo can milk me for money, rather than how WuWa's healers are more a preference of playstyle and choice." I think Atsu may have caused him some irreparable brain damage 😔
Vars made a WuWa video for Genshin players, thats good, it keeps the hyper Hoyo shills away from WuWa, they are the reason Genshin is the way it is, let them ruin ZZZ with the same team comp meta as Genshin
I think most of Brax points based on this video was not based on facts but opinions or guesses one of them was about him assuming that a video was sponsored or what vars was thinking when he was saying those as if he was vars himself. Hopefully Brax learns more about Wuwa to make better content about it.
Honestly this is all man-made because most can't even talk about the game itself and it is just a way to fuel views for content and to make money which is fine but there is no drama. It is all artificial for views and make this community look worst then it is. I try looking for guides for the game and only see this BS that normal people that play the game don't care about and only want game info. I keep seeing this on my feed and it is annoying as hell.
The issue is how unnecessarily hot-headed a lot of this has been lately - because if it had all been approached like this video/stream, that would've set Saint apart as not only incredibly knowledgable on how unique every character/mechanic/enemy is but also that his indignation against CC's spouting nonsense when it impacts the opinion of thousands of people is justified and was handled with such maturity that he rightfully earns the respect of the gaming community. Nothing wrong with being angry as a response to lies, but your knowledge needs to do the punching, not slander. So, Saint "won" the victory with knowledge, but the condescension to get there was tacky The irony is that ppl saying that other's just can't handle Saint giving them the truth....Saint flips out so easily and he bans ppl for emotionally charged reasons....how is that any less fragile emotionally? Strong emotions are good, what you do with them shows where your strength is/isn't. There's no way I'm defending other CC's either - Brax and Vars should not act knowledgable about a game they clearly don't play much and GachaSmack flippantly made points he couldn't be bothered to suggest improvements for or even clarify what he truly meant. I'm super disappointed in Brax that he makes guides by learning just enough to show how their kit works and then doesn't even play them enough to clear TOA or look into their unique mechanics outside of the basics we can read in the game - so even if Saint was "farming drama" with these reaction videos, the other CC's are also farming views for a paycheck by misleading players without a care for making sure they are honest. It just sucks all around and I hope moving forward other CCs will get their act together and stop faking knowledge and that Saint provides the objectivity he expects of others instead of raging. EDIT: Additional thought - a 5 hour stream breaking down a bad take is totally justified if that's how long it takes to get to the bottom of something and I get it because in order to PROPERLY understand/respond to someone's critique, you break it down bit by bit and credit or dismantle each part, playing devils advocate and then evaluating if their point has any merit or if it should be replaced with the evidence of something better/true. That is literally critical thinking. So to Saint's credit, he was doing due diligence in that regard (and as an INTJ personality, I totally get it). Other people see that as being nit-picky when it is not at all. Dismantling the argument itself is not a personal attack - It was the banning tirade and the discouraging personal remarks during stream that was out of control and an over the top reaction revealing the logical critique was no longer constructive but excessively aggressive. Great that Saint took ownership to change that in future reacts - and so gotta credit that Saint didn't deflect or double down out of pride, at least in this stream lol
I'm 36, so I don't like drama or BS. I really liked this video and how you changed perspective, I have been loving your content, and agree with Tec that the tone was erring a little bit towards the harsh side. I think you have a lot of potential, and would easily become one of the best gacha content creator in the future.
Brax real problem is that he lacks skills and doesn't truly know how to play the game. There is nothing wrong with the team building in Wuwa. You cannot fully compare Wuwa's teams to Genshin, for Genshin is a game that has been out for 3 years+ and therefore has 3 times as many characters. It has no "identity crisis", this is Brax showing his lack of skills and lack of understanding of the game, which is rather embarrassing tbh. Brax should seriously stop talking about a game he has no idea about and just stick to Genshin. And yes, Saint, it's very insulting and you has every right to speak against it. I am just as upset/angry at what Brax is saying.
In all fairness saint deserves to be insulting, who on gods earth want to listen to a video with false information, I don’t care how he says what he says I only care about not wasting my time
Drama was already there without tectone help. Also it doesnt matter if its tectone or other without a mediator all this cc's are unhinged and just talk out their ass. Missinformation is running ramnpant right now based of the cc agenda. When theres a mediator all of the suddenly are composed and try to control their languange.
You know the actual problem of content creators?. THIS video itself. Just bunch of yap, not even doing actual content in the game, I've seen more Gacha drama than Gacha Content today and it's CRAZY
Yeah no youre totally right and I much prefer how you handled the criticism tonally here. Its weird how kuro will have a CC act like that, feels like overcorrection to the 'toxic positivity' lane of GI and frankly not constructive but negligent. Precision matters
1:16:10 tectone pretty much sums up Saint's approach, and as to why his community somewhat got divided. Personally i also don't like his takes when he was talking with ryuuku, it was obvious that he got tilted midway (also ryuuku) and got lost in the sauce
I watched up until after the notepad points were addressed and they agreed, I don't need any ifs ands or buts. The dude was speaking in absolutes and they acknowledge he was wrong but then doubling down and defending him in what they "think" he means is CRAZY to me.
Yo just finished good fucking video hoping to see soon saint x brax . Saint growing as more "friendly" cc with his good point on topics only mean wuwa cc space are gonna do better and better
My dude is critiquing an opinion piece b-roll. I don't know why anyone is platforming this guy, he is just farming for drama. No one has this much drama within a week if they are not looking for it.
I used to watch Vars about 2-3 years ago. His content mainly focused on discussing issues with Genshin characters and mechanics. I'm not sure what his content is like now, but even back then, while I often agreed with the problems he pointed out, I almost always disagreed with the alternative solutions he proposed. This is just my personal opinion, though. He compares mechanics across many games and suggests solutions based on those comparisons, but what works in one game doesn't necessarily work in another, and genshin doesn't like to just give out solutions without a cost (or as you would say it without strings attached). This is probably just him going about Wuwa the same way as he always has for Genshin, except the devs here are quick to fix whatever the issue a player has that is justified. We have seen that with 5* echo drop rates, double reward collection, waveplate overflow, fixing some voice acting, and even one of the most fundamental aspect of the game, echos, they improved it for 2.0 (leaks) and much more that I probably dont remember. So if you see the devs implementing any of the "fixes" for whatever vars critiqued then maybe he was right, obviously not 100% if not then we know our league of legends master player saintontas is right, I love your content, but as tectone and brax pointed out you are going too aggressive mode on other cc's, and I dont watch other cc's so I have no reason to defend them either.
5:12 no wonder you are so good in speaking while doing differrent stuff. Meanwhile i am horrible and i have to record multiple times and edit out all gaffs and stutters. I am getting better though but i have a long way to go .
Would be great if Kuro could fix their dogass targeting system and camera. It has been ass since launch, and is still ass till this day. I have never seen it this bad in ANY other gacha. Even bloody Tower of Fantasy got it right.
Bro is really reacting to everything, you gotta do what you gotta do, as long as you are on the side of truth its a good fight. Thou I dont have time to watch every 5-3 hours react you put out and putting it as a background noise end with me not understanding half of it😂😂😂 I like you content and quides but I was more a fan of the thought provoking videos you did back before CiYu tried to cancel you for speculation. It is my belief that truth should always preveil even if it will take years of struggle if it preveils at the end it was worth it
Depends how you feel about what your Shorekeeper should do. Crit dmg for bigger stellarealm nuke Healing bonus, self explanatory HP, not as good as healing bonus but still considerable healing with a bit better general dmg
Saintontas is heavily misunderstood. WuWa’s been unfairly targeted from all corners, and most content creators are just hopping on the hate train, profiting from the drama. It’s obvious that Saintontas goes after those spreading hate and misinformation about the game and its community, and I’m all for his content on WuWa. He’s far from a "gl*ze" - sure, he puts out some gl*zy videos now and then, but he also critiques the game fairly, like when he talks about shielders and the Jue fight. The drama? It’s all just clickbait farming. These so-called content creators don’t know two sh**s about gameplay mechanics. For example, some still think LT is better than VT on Yao. That just shows they’re here for the views and to boost their engagement. Ignoring the drama is the way to go. Giving them attention is just stupid, but I get why the frustration builds up. Gacha Smack had some valid points, but his insulting behavior just showed how insecure he is - banning people from his community who disagree with him and spouting slurs at others only proves the point. Iyo has consistent crashouts and bad takes, and it’s clear he’s just trying to pander to Hoyoverse now. Mr Pokke is just a m**t-riding sh**L, spewing clickbait thumbnails and titles whenever his wallet starts feeling thin. Jenazad? I don’t know much about that, so I’ll leave that one alone. Fob God? His takes are terrible, and he’s too ego-driven to admit he’s wrong. I think he got frustrated after Saint countered him on Gacha Cast and just started spouting whatever nonsense he could. Ryuuku’s videos are actually good, though just because it’s a gacha problem doesn’t mean it can be disregarded. People will ride Hoyoverse for engagement, just to be tourists in these games. I used to watch all these content creators, but after all this, it’s clear who’s genuine and who isn’t. They just react to Saintontas’s videos about defending the game he likes, calling things as well as many people out, and having the audacity to call him a "KuroB**T Kuro S***L warrior" just to keep the drama hype going is just pure pathetic. My advice? Just avoid all this drama. If something persists, just be clear and leave - this cycle of hypocrisy will never stop. Sure there are some people who are not like that but most of them are just Hypocritic
I think take "Characters in Wuwa wasn't specifically made for each other" is completely wrong. Yinlin, for example, is fits perfectly with Calcharo and Xiangli Yao. Also she can be used with Jinhsi because of Coordinate attacks. But using Yinlin with Changli makes no sense. And fact, that characters can be used in multiple team compositions gives a freedom in teambuilding. You can build more teams using only 26 existing characters and don't feel that your choice is strictly limited. But you can't take a bunch of random characters and create an effective team, you still need to use brain.
It's not just those two that have problems. But most of the content creators now just talk nonsense and make up stories, even say toxic things to harm the games. Don't listen to them, if you play the game and feel like it, keep going and stop listening to their nonsense
All i know is players need both casuals and hardcores. Brax does his absolute best with his work and whats given to him hence why he’s in early access in general. Clearly ppl here are viewing him thru rose tinted glasses bc he was in genshin. That’s hella disingenuous and closed minded. Saint on the other hand is needed for those who wanna moreso understand the game more on a deeper level. When it comes to things like i-framing particular attacks, hyper armor etc. So I say all this to say, ill still be watching both of them because I trust both of them having seen their growth and content.
I love this game but I don't enjoy it because people that what drama for Intertemet. that's why I feel like leaving or getting angry. but I enjoy playing it but there are things in my heart that feel lonely.
I like the takes on echoes presented by brax, that is actually a great take. Everything after is kinda... Biased and sad to hear that coming out of his mouth,
I mean There are things that are personal opinions and that is nice, but I feel It is still a bit annoying to compare so much wuwa and genshin. Like , why the complain of not having specific supports for specific characters when there are not even all types of dps out? Like I don’t think is a bad thing that wuwa is still getting their own style of team building and things like that…. I think is fine. Why everything needs to be solve now? They are getting there. But their gaming system is really fun, it has its different things . (No need to discuss is genshin better or not)
Brax is caping for his friend so hard he came off irrational. You cant critique a game while having footage showing yourself playing badly. It sends the wrong message: its misinforming the players and for players like me i clicked off Vars video not only because of that trash play but also because his criticisms became nonsensical and contradicting. If you are incapable of properly articulating logical criticisms, then the best thing for you to do is stay quiet until you can. Their arguments essentially boil down to extremely vague criticisms that run along the lines of "its not genshin enough" which is stupid. Most people outside the genshin fandom do NOT like characters that must be glued to other characters. The r1999 fanbase had a huge problem with Mercuria being glued to marcus. All their arguments boiled down to: you sounded mean to my grossly misinformed friend and Wuwa isnt genshin enough for me so its bad. The whole "they shouldve dived more into their identity" is such vague horse crap. Wuwas world is very alive. Npcs patrol and attack TDs, TDs attack each other, there are TDs that absorb each other like predators. You have to completely ignore the game youre playing to see that. If you want a safari mode cool but dont screw up up my material hunting trails for a novelty that people barely pay attention to in the first place. The fact that they could only circle back to the team building isnt genshin enough means they dont really have a criticism. Its GOOD that its not genshin, i like having a character that works with multiple groups and not one playstyle. They want to accuse the game of being a genshin clone but then complain that its not a clone. The repeating of the elemental reaction system is dumb as well. You dont need to know that much to win in genshin, i took. Huge break owned nearly every character, came back got Neuv, got Furina and beat the endgame repeatedly with the same teams over and over because floor is that low Genshin rewards not interacting with the enemies and once you can achieve this the game rolls over dies I need to block those people.
Slander, defamation, and libel is what comes from disinformation (false information presented as fact) and directly harms the product, reputation, business. Saintontas was absolutely correct in calling him out. Brax was on the receiving end of such slander, and defamation, and like he said he never recovered from it. Why would he now defend someone doing the exact same thing to someone else? The dude was lucky that people only shit on him, he runs the risk of getting a lawsuit. He presented something as fact not an opinion and it was false. That is a prosecutable offense. Sorry Brax, but in this case Brax is wrong. Having someone bring attention to false information and legally damning is a responsibility of decent and moral people. Doesn’t matter if they are a CC or a twitch chatter, a friend, or your competitor. Bringing attention to someone spreading disinformation so that they can course correct is the height of kindness. He could have reported it to Kuro or the police and he would suffer legal ramifications instead of “oh people shitting in his chat”…the response from Brax isn’t worth the air it took to say it out loud. Yikes
carrot guys is annoying and mindlessly defending his point of view, I know everyone can have it's own opinion, but lets put this in another perspective for example, global warming, anyone is free to think whatever they like about it, but I'm also allowed to think that people with no background, not understanding, and just refusing to accept scientific evidence because they think differently, are just plain dumb. you can extrapolate this example to wuwa and the whoever carrot guy is mindedly defending.
Ok no, even if you put minimal effort into a video, it is WRONG to misinform people. You can say you do not like the game , that is fine, but saying thing like this character is generoc without explaining why, also saying team building is bad , without knowing how to play. Just say that you do not like it, maybe do not like the dodging system, do not lile the dynamic of intros , I mean it’s fine not like it, but declaring it is bad or wrong without knowing what you are talking about is just not knowing how to talk and embarrassing
Vars could borderline get a defamation case because of what he said. And here's braxophone trying to defend the guy until the very end. Absolute comedy. Telling people to be nice to your friend even when he is lying and spreading misinformation, what are you pretending to be? Going around other peoples chat to defame the guy as well, saying you don't know the full context. DISGUSTING. Below is the responce I got from chatgpt after asking the defamation thing related to vars, can you file a defemation case on a youtuber if they slander a video game, spreading misinformation and lies about the game? ChatGPT said: Yes, it is possible to file a defamation lawsuit if a RUclipsr spreads misinformation and slanders a video game in a way that harms the reputation of the game or its creators. However, a few important factors must be considered: 1. Defamation Criteria: To pursue a defamation case, there are several key elements that must be proven: False Statement: The RUclipsr must have made a statement that is false. Opinions are generally not considered defamatory, but false factual claims could be. Harm to Reputation: You must show that the statement harmed the reputation of the game, its developers, or the brand. This might be harder to prove in some cases, but if the video leads to loss of sales or public backlash, it may be easier. Unprivileged Statement: The statement made must be one that is not protected by legal privilege, such as opinions, fair criticism, or statements made in specific legal or political contexts. Negligence or Actual Malice: In some cases, especially when it involves public figures or companies, you might need to show that the RUclipsr acted with "actual malice" (knowing the information was false or disregarding the truth). 2. Challenges in Defamation Cases Involving Media: Public Figures: If the video game is considered a public figure or a product in the public domain, you might face higher hurdles, especially in the U.S., under the "actual malice" standard. Freedom of Speech: RUclips content creators are often protected by free speech rights, and courts tend to be cautious about stifling opinions, especially if the creator is offering commentary or criticism. Quantifying Harm: Proving the direct harm caused by the slander can be difficult. This could involve showing lost revenue, negative reviews, or a decrease in user engagement as a result of the video. 3. Alternative Actions: RUclips's Content Moderation: If the video violates RUclips's policies (e.g., spreading false information, harassment, or harmful content), you can flag it or report it to RUclips. The platform may remove the content if it violates their community guidelines. Public Response: Sometimes, issuing a public response or clarification from the game’s developers or publishers can be an effective strategy to counter misinformation and restore the game’s reputation. Cease and Desist: Before filing a lawsuit, many companies choose to send a cease and desist letter to the RUclipsr, demanding the removal of the slanderous content. 4. Legal Process: If you decide to pursue a defamation lawsuit, you'd need to: Consult with a Lawyer: It's essential to work with a lawyer who specializes in defamation, intellectual property, or media law. Gather Evidence: Collect evidence of the false statements and how they affected the game’s reputation. Evaluate Costs: Lawsuits can be expensive and time-consuming, and the outcome is never guaranteed. Many defamation cases settle out of court. Conclusion: While filing a defamation lawsuit is theoretically possible, it's usually a last resort due to the challenges involved. It’s often better to address misinformation through other means, such as public clarification, direct communication with the RUclipsr, or working with platforms like RUclips to remove harmful content.
@@dimastoding9441i know defamation is highly unlikely. But saying "typical korobot" just protrays how much actually your IQ is low. Sony legit start striking videos when people just not liking LOU2. And there is nintendo. Which i dont think we need an explnation for it So no. If koro decide that video should not be on youtube, no one can do anything about it. We have saw this a billion times on youtube already
I didnt watch the Video, neither did i poop clean today, it was a chaotic experience sorry. But i have one thing to say about anything. The Situation Situation is crazy, you know? But what i am really want to say is.. we dont need Gatcha or Content Creators if we have a Stone called Rocky.
Brax is too soft. Saint crashed out too hard. Valid to roast someone when they have lazy content, but 3+ hours over a 15 min vid is too much and lowers the quality of the critique.
the problem is with the old content creators, is that they refuse to acknowledge that wuthering waves is a new game and you need a new way to talk about , and THEY have to learn and understand the game then make content about it. most content creators are like " wuthering waves doesn't have XYZ and doesn't play like ABC, and should have 123, like game X game etc" i dont need or want to hear these kind of talking points, talk about the game as it is, when Varus says that there is no synergy, he isnt saying the truth "there are different synergies" its just there isnt the synergy they want. Sanhua works at base investment, but with more investment her damage is good " 100k per her 3 second field time" , the elemental reaction system in genshin restricts the team building, and also makes some characters absolute , genshin players are still using bennet till this dasy, how boring is that? . gernshin content creators have brain rot tbh, LEARN THE GAME lol omg
This bring back how tectone try punishing gray raven. Which are different from hi3 and aether gazer. Also can include zzz now imo. Why ? The ping or system.
Thats why i dont take Gaming Creators on RUclips serious. I prefer watch Inysm Horror videos instead wasting my time with them.
Just nitpicking here, but Bennet being meta has nothing to do with the reaction system. He could be literally any other element, and he would still be meta. The reason he is still used is because the Genshin team refuses to release another character that buffs attack to the degree that Bennet does.
Vars' video on the team building is definitely flawed. But saying his point is "there are no synergy" is a gross oversimplification to his criticism that albeit flawed, have some merits in it. Please, watch his full video and dont just listen to saintontas' pausing every 15 seconds to go on a random rant kind of breakdown.
> the elemental reaction system in genshin restricts the team building, and also makes some characters absolute
This is a half truth. If you see many of the more recent characters or heck, some of the old ones. Elemental reaction system has nothing to do with how some of them become an absolute
And while genshin's elemental reaction system does "limits team building" per se. Its more on how its designed to be rather than the existense of an elemental system inherently limits team building imo. Vars also never really said that one would have to use genshin's reaction system as the baseline as to how an elemental system should be designed. He simply said theres no reason to use certain attributes in one team thus making the attribute system obsolete
> genshin players are still using bennet till this dasy, how boring is that?
Bennet's reign of terror has nothing to do with how good he is for the elemental reaction system. He in fact doesnt even use the elemental reaction system. HE is good for the simple fact that he does everything and buff a shit ton. To frame him as a reason as to why elemental reaction system is bad is the same as trying to frame sanhua as to why concerto system of wuwa is bad.
@@ReviewBonfireEspecially the collab ones lmao
So summary is
Both three agree on Vars II made low effort video on wuwa and sanitontas 5 hr breakdown about it is not okay.
Brax is okay with cc making low effort video and talk negative about games or websites. But He wants no negative react to that cc. It seems Tectone and Saint are not okay it like either stop making a negative video or open-minded to criticism.
So even though Saintontas is agree to tone down his voice in the future and Brax is still not okay with it . The end.
Brax made a follow up video on his second channel tht explains his points better.
He isnt a debater like saint or tectone is so naturally he was at a disadvantage here.
Had he asked “should I stop making guides” instead of “should I quit the game” after trying fallacy, i think that would of been the better question
Brax is one of those guys that tries to be the best friend with everyone and is afraid of offending someone he likes, while Saintontas and Tectone are like "Your video is shit , get better next time or get lost"
Saintontas be like:
Let me solo them. Tectone, get that battlefield ready for me.
Saintotas soloing the Gacha Verse
Like he's Sukuna post Megumi possession
Saint as main DPS
Tec as sub-dps, building that concerto gauge 😂
This is too big brain for me, but it was a fun video
48:46 IDK how you can look at any characters in this game and say they're the same tbh. Mechanically every character has something that sets them apart from other characters. Yeah, I guess, if you boil everything down to "player presses buttons, something happens" it can seem like that; but that's such a disingenuous take.
By their standards, Youhu is the same as Kratos
@@grymnsleave the brat alone man
If they have the brains of a Genshin player, then no wonder they think that way, because their game has nothing but reactions.
Brax's comment here that Varina and SK are the same just makes me lose brain cells. Clearly, he doesn't invest enough time in WW to tell the difference. So, why are his opinions even considered here?
brax probably used SK only to heal and he switched to dps without using anything else :D
Just cos CCs have no work ethics doesn’t mean Saint needs to just be ok with it :/
This right here. Maybe its time they be held up to do their damn jobs instead of the free ride of SLOP content.
TELL EMMMM
In wuwa terms Saintontas is the main dps and Tectone is the intro/outro 😂
Bro is Sanhua for gacha CCs
😂
Unlike Genshin, unlike any other Hoyoverse game.
Wuthering Waves requires skill. Whether you whale or not. No skill, no thought, no result. As simple as THAT.
Genshin/HSR/ZZZ is all standard hoyoslop. Low skill floor and low skill-ceiling.
Four-stars in WuWa have more mechanical depth than characters in YEAR 4 OF GENSHIN
Thats a Lie and a really unexpected one.
ANY Game requires skill. You probably would even die in Rune Factory if you dont pay attention. EVEN SPONGEBOB Battle of Bikini Bottom requires skill to beat the game easy.
PGR Requires MUCH more skill than WuWa, WuWa is quite casual compared to PGR. WuWa requires slightly more skill than Honkai 3rd and ZZZ. And both of them require more skill than Genshin and HSR. And it keeps going.
But in the End, WuWa difficulty is still below Dark Souls Tutorial Diffculty. That said, stop acting like other Games can be casually beat by a person who never touched a game in their entire Life.
@@300y1 Doesnt have anything to do with skill right? If we start comparing like this. Then PGR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WuWa. WuWa is made for newborn if you compare it to other Kuro Game.
If you have a decent build every gacha is just smash buttons 😂 but wuwa has a higher skill ceiling that's it. It's not hard, doesn't require skill to clear any endgame content atleast till now
@ReviewBonfire
1. you missed the point, I'm not putting PGR on the equation since it's a game from Kuro, not Hoyoverse.
2. If tutorial from Dark Souls gives you more problems than Morning Aix Hologram at MAX level, you're doing something wrong.
3. We are with the supposed case of being at least a casual gamer level. Cause that's the biggest demographic in the game industry.
I'm comparing WuWa with HOYOVERSE games. Don't go through the tangent.
One of the things that most probably pissed Saintontas (as it did for me) is not the takes Vars did in his video, but the fact that his video was titled "The Problem With Wuthering Waves' Teambuilding" which gives the impression of objectivity and is just riddled with both misinformation and bad takes, and that is a big problem. Vars is NOT a small content creator, his videos gets tens if not hundreds of thousands of views for each one he uploads. The fact that he released a video that presents itself as objective (even if it does not explicitly state so) and is just outright problematic, coupled with his massive following, ultimately damages the reputation of the game itself. Yes, I get that people do bad takes every now and then, make a couple of mistake in judgement--but that does not absolve you of that potential harm that you are capable of doing. Great power comes with great responsibility.
And jumping over to Saint's POV, watching someone with such influence in the gacha space (where reputation for the game has big influence to attracting new players, because of how gacha games are designed) damage the reputation of the game that he loves and wants to do well... it's honestly infuriating, especially since Vars had some actual good takes at the beginning. There's also the fact that the B-rolls themselves were also terribly played, it gives off the impression that Vars is treating the game like a joke, that it's an out of season April fools joke--except that it's not.
I loved Var's videos, even if he does yap a lot in them. He was my go to guy when it comes to HSR and Genshin content, but after seeing what he did with Wuthering Waves, I do not trust him the same way as before. Of course, it's my own feelings and people probably won't care. But I do no believe that I'm the only one who felt like this watching his video. It's a shame, but I can only hope everyone acknowledges where they went wrong and learns from it. For everyone's sake.
I’m coming from Genshin and ppl fail to understand how terrible it is what vars did, if u only play Genshin more than likely you would blindly trust his opinion since he’s so dependable when it comes to Genshin content 🤦🏽♂️either he did this on purpose as a smear campaign or he’s getting old and losing it because it makes no sense
Yup. It can totally be infuriating with a game you're passionate about, but at the end of the day, it's a video game and it's not all that deep. I just hope these CCs could finally move on and grow from all this bullshit.
@ saying it’s a video game to invalidate someone’s emotions is very dumb, not everything that matters to u matters to everyone else and vice versa, a lot of ppl are passionate about art work and it’s literally just pixels or paint on a canvas, does that mean they shouldn’t be passionate about it? I don’t care about kids but I wouldn’t say a mothers love for her child isn’t important or a big thing🤷🏽♂️but hey that’s just me, I can think beyond myself and what I believe
@@crownedking_cj8890 yeah these people are letting people that spread misinformations scot-free instead of letting them take responsibility. I honestly dont like Saintontas aggressiveness and overglazing of wuwa. BUT, i think WuWa community will be worse if there is no someone like him correcting those misinformations especially from r/gachagaming which is outright malicious.
Nah, even before when he was making content for Genshin and have his *Why noone plays series*, he had some really bad takes, and it just takes 3-4 vids. to judge his criticism about the game and would bring the internet against him. I dunno about that time if he's doing it for the clicks or doing it intentionally, but widening his scope and at last, encountering Saintontas is just like catching a shark when u just want to catch some fish. He hit a wall with this one if I say so myself, and does he deserve it? Maybe not, coz noone want to wish ill to others, morally speaking, but if incompetence and growing from it is what he would take from it, maybe yes.
I've been playing gacha games for many years but only started interacting with gacha content this year, It's funny how gacha games are one of the chillest and laidback games but the communities are hella toxic (seems worse than league actually) and the funniest thing is how a lot of gacha CCs don't even play the games they talk about or make guides about.
People have been talking shit about Saintontas and while he misspoke sometimes and can have bad temperament which makes him appear rude, he's also been exposing how a lot of CCs don't know shit about WuWa (mostly the ones coming from HSR) while also covering the game and making guides. I understand that they cover WuWa to eventually make more content so more money which is fine but when you don't know anything about the game you shouldn't be making critics about the game (which I'm guessing are also made for the bag since it attracts a lot of people) and then act surprised that someone comes at you afterwards.
Yeah, I didn't realize it was like this at first either - like mmorpgs got heated for pvp stuff which is still stupid but it makes more sense because those players are chasing for leaderboard positions.....anyway the thing that is so frustrating is that all Saint's solid critique get's overshadowed and derailed by rage ranting so that it's a mix of logical with illogical.
I fully agree with getting angry at how disingenuous these other creators are and no excuse for why you didn't put in effort justifies that ppl came to your video to learn more about the game and have no clue that you can't even be bothered to make sure you even know the game yourself........that's so shady and I think Saint is totally right calling it out.
@@trashbuilds8351 I guess people have to find something else to talk about besides building up drama to fill the lack of content between the patches. Same pattern everytime, 2 weeks of actual content when a new patch is out then 4 weeks full of drama. This is even worse when it's a filler patch too.
@@Khalil_B That's true, and I know it's harder to get videos seen unless there's a "problem" or a game is "ruined."
I don't mind people offering reflective critique during uneventful patches - but can we just discuss it normally lol.
Who is waiting for braxophoneXSaintontas collab
Please do it
Yup yup that would be cool
onlyfans collab i hope
Is the video brax uploaded yesterday also cool tho?
Please don't
Brax made a followup video where it's basically him spewing these exact points again but not live so no one can disprove him or argue with him lol
he's also being passive aggressive in the comments - some real pokke bs going on around here. its clear brax is still mad his friend got called out (rightfully so)
😊I just love to see WuWa CC fighting each other. It's good for me.
@@animeao6980brax is originally from Genshin, I wouldn’t trust his sponsored and early access opinions to elevate another game like wuwa over Genshin🤷🏽♂️that’s like me trusting the opinion of an employee at Popeyes telling me their food taste better than kfc, ofc ur gonna say that duh🤣🤣
@@crownedking_cj8890 I think you missed the point they were trying to make in that this "community" is beginning to have an "us versus them" mentality. Why even bring up his roots of Genshin to begin with in relation to this drama? The drama is over Brax defending Vars's shit takes and Saint's nuclear react over B-roll footage lmao. I don't even know why this is drama to begin with bc this shit isn't all that deep.
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Brax, I understand you're defending your friend disingenuously but c'mon man, shorekeeper is verina pro max? You don't need swap cancelling in dual dps comps? You also don't know the game and you're talking about it like you do, literally what your friend did... at least you admitted at the end unlike Vars
this is basically asian parents vs western parents disciplining their children lmao
Exactly
Vars poops on wuwa
Saint argue with logic
Brax: don't create a 5 hour video using logic because you're pooping on Mars.
Lol what. There's a cc criticizing the game and potentially drawing hate towards the game's community. Saint is breaking his claims apart and all Brax can say is "stop it because i don't like how this can potentially hurt my friend's feelings."
still, 5 hrs is insane though
@@bruh6267he has to cook Vars properly, or else Gordon will say ITS FCUKING RAW!!!
I think the best counter agrument to the team synergy's/Building is ZZZ and its hyperspecific roles that lock you into certain teams which is honestly CREATING a Meta creep so early into the game. But part of that meta creep may just be them wanting to make more sales.
What do you mean by this? I kinda feel you are right but I can't put it into words.
@@Lopaloosthe anomaly meta zzz is starting to create specific team for the end game modes it feels like It's following the path of HSR to boost sales.
@@HazardToneahhh i see
Any streamer who touched Hoyo games, made it their career eventually becomes a Problem. That Community ALWAYS has an issue, mostly because westerners keep forgetting that the game is CHINESE. The representations made in the game was through asian people eyes, and westerners always make it a big deal if it didn't go their way. There's a reason why English Paimon speaks in 3rd person cuz they can't use they/them pronouns, it was until SHE was confirmed female only a year after launch. Streamers then migrate from Hoyo games to Wuwa and makes the same problem. Imagine if they do that same thing to NTE, Ananta, The Breakers and HoK:World.
Well, just you wait until Endfield come out. I predict many CCs will further migrate from Genshin to Endfield.
Personally i'm looking forward to Ananta and i'll give Endfield a try too, just hope their communities don't become toxic and have to constantly seek validation by comparing it to Hoyo games every single time like wuwa does.
This video exposes Brax as a dude who parrots things he hears off reddit and calls it his content.
1:14:52 "Bullying Works." -Saintontas
Teccy and Asmon agrees 👍
10000%
This is why Saintontas is my favourite creator. Level-headed, logical arguments, always got very valid points, doesn't shy away from confrontation, and not afraid to speak against the masses. I'm only getting back to creating content specifically for Wuthering Waves (on an alt channel) just to support.
Well said
probably not level headed lmao, bruh is seething in rage
Level headed? All he does is attack hoyoverse content creators on a personal level, he's completely against the idea that ww could even HAVE problems
Yeah a like his arguments and his logical responses. I do not like though when he gets too mich into genshin talking. 😅 but that’s about it.
@@dingleen6553 what confrontations are you talking about he disagrees with everyone and cant take criticism while he criticized others
of course you can play the game if you aren't good at it. The issue remains in whether you should be making guides or discussion videos on it. It's like me, a high school drop out, trying to tell others what quantum physics is. I don't understand enough of it to tell anyone about any of that, so I won't try.
Brax had a fair point in the fact that you could've went about it a bit softer than ripping into Vars like that, and I still think Ryuuku sensei was right about the lack of echo exp. Most people I know have maxed out their echo inventory at least once, but we never had enough echo exp to roll them. If you do look at the math, 1 tacit field run = 3 gold + 4 purple (or 4 gold + 4 purple) tubes. You need 3 gold + 1 purple (or 8 purple + 1 blue/1 green) to bring an echo to lvl10, which is what I do to check for the 2 first rolls. If there's a crit roll that isn't a minimum roll, I keep rolling. You don't even have enough to level 2 echoes to lvl10, but you get 4 echoes (sometimes 5 I believe) from a single tacit field run. That's not enough echo exp, even with the events giving us more.
yeah too much echoes with no exp . now it's getting harder to swap echoes between characters espcially +3 .
Rinacita is gonna come out and Saintontas is gonna put Camelia in the thumbnail.
You know they have no argument when their problem is tone policing, they care more about being fake positivity than being honest and direct, what a bunch of clowns.
You're not a civilized person, are you ?
@@white-_-glitch3032 wat da skibbidy dos dat meen
@@white-_-glitch3032 Nah, he's plenty. He's not blind to the open-ended bs.
He's right tho. You're proving his point.
@@incognitobutnotprobably a naive kid, he doesn't understand that civilization will not even exist if people were not able to see problems as it is and tell people about it in the most unambiguous way possible to not waste anyone's time.
Brax revealing in real-time that he doesn’t play WuWa for more than he needs to make his initial guide. You literally cannot face tank damage in this game. These bosses force you to respect the game mechanics.
9:45 BUT THIS IS NOT GENSHIN! WHY IS THIS CC HAVE THEIR BRAIN ROTTED BY A GAME !
27:46 don't even need Fallacy, that cat is also one of the most annoying enemy to be fighting with. If not stunning it down quickly, it just gonna go around and around in the air the entire time lol
*Yeah everything becomes easy when you fully build your characters* while the guy hasn't even unlock the hazardzone, boy I'm sure he didn't even clear the 3rd floors of holograms
Brax the kinda guy to do a charity stream for donos while spending thousands on gachas...then saying he is struggling with the cost of living in LA in a YT vid, while also been on stream at the same bloody time laughing about how he just spent thousands on the chiori banner. Brax is doing the same things he cried about Atsu doing to him. Tectones done a real good job removing Atsu's clique and creating his own doing the exact same things. While also farming drama revenue because if you take away that. He has nothing.
sir this is a wendy's
@@troweltheory ngl I laughed....your right
It's called a gambling addiction, my good sir.
@@leech1806 I hope he gets help. It’s an actual shame seeing how much Brax also talked about what Atsu did and yet Brax is literally doing the same things he called out Atsu for.
Wait how does that first sentence about money, cost-of-living, and spending on Chiori's banner even relate to this drama? You know you could've just said that Brax is a hypocrite straight from the get-go and go from there lol.
one problem for me that saint says is that he is a sponsored content creator, if he spreads misinformation people are gonna follow that because they trust him for the fact he is an experienced gacha player, a day 1 player or almost day 1 player, and on top of that a sponsored CC, so if he just says "its a bad game" or " this character is just like this character" its not good for the game/company since he is just hurting their "revenue". Not like i care if Kuro Games makes more or less money, but as a sponsored CC, you should understand that if you're gonna make a video point stuff about a game and then give bad points that may drive people away from the game or from pulling a character, you should have the points and experience to back those claims. Love the wholesome ending tho.
even they say that " if you're getting paid you should put in the effort" and then teccy says that "no one does that". That is semi-fine, but one thing is making a "low quality" sponsored video, another thing is making a sponsored video that may even cause "damage" to the company/product you're promoting.
This was great discussion Saintontas. Comapred to what happened with gacha smack this discussion was good stuff. Actually talking about the issue and pressing the point without losing your kool.
+1 Skeleton
+1 Drama
+1 Google Doc
+1 Sneak
at the end of the day, whether we like it or not, we live in a world where we need to deliver our points across in a certain way for more people to be willing to listen, whether it's the tone or the word choice. it happens outside of gacha gaming and irl too. it's totally reasonable to get heated, especially if the problems occur regularly, but that's how we gotta handle it
Misinformation is Misinformation
Idk how any other way to say it. Y'all don't want to be told "you suc" bc it hurts your feeling. GET OUT
@@gwanetayla7683 im not disagreeing with the points saintontas made. im saying people nowadays dont listen unless we say things in a certain way. but once u hit that tone, u can tell them they're wrong in 20 different ways and theyd still listen. it's not ideal but sadly thats how most people handle confrontation. thats why some people write saintontas off as a kuro shill because they leave before listening to the entire point he's making even tho hes right
Gotta love how Brax frames himself as a victim of the world every time 😭
Brax just seems like an unreliable guide maker tbh. Admitted he gets sponsored to make guides and also admits that he's not good enough to make a quality guide... I'm glad i came across your channel before finding out about these other subpar channels.
He's scrambling to defend himself but has no good foundation. Like him talking about how he thinks two dps characters can hyper carry on the same team... That literally goes against the logic of hyper carry lmao
Just got to the part where he talks about due diligence as sponsored creators. Definitely the attitude all the other creators should take.
I think his HSR guides are fine, but it doesn't really take much skill to play it and reading off their kits is enough to understand the mechanics of the new characters.
Brax's issue for WuWa is that he doesn't actually understand the base principles about WuWa's game mechanics and is just using the same strat from HSR where he just reads off a character's kit for his "guides" when he himself doesn't understand it or how to actually play the game.
B-b-But Maygi told Brax is good and Saintontas is bad.
Most gacha CCs (CCs that jump on the current popular gacha) are unreliable.. The best guides are from smaller CCs who are dedicated to one game or players who just play games and posts it, not make content for it.
If he doesnt understand the game why in the world is he commenting about it? I bet most veteran players at this pont would make more valid critizism than him about wuwa.
Inferno Rider is another boss you can't really faceroll. Not as much as Fallacy, but still.
The hologram version lol
Inferno and Crownless tbh. Once crownless hit you in his winged state prepare to be obliterated lol
@@gwanetayla7683 tell me about it. Two health bars AND the freaking meteor shower. Add to that not having any parryable attacks while in his first phase, and he was unbearable to fight.
They can't just make you out to be the villain after tilting you with immense negligence to your wellbeing. Don't interact with them please. You are allowed to enjoy this game without being part of the Creator space, we like you for the way you like things and the way you stand for them. Please don't let these people call you anything. As an Aspie/AuDHD person, I know how difficult it must be for you to navigate a space that had bad eggs from before your time. Don't engage content creators whose sole purpose is to make money. They will ride off of your coattail, and drag you down on the way. Don't be angry, it will only fuel them. We are here for you, here to love this game and the creators working hard on making it. You are allowed to, and welcome to, have a specific thing you like, and you are allowed to engage with it in a vaccuum, uninfluenced by the rest of the scene. You are allowed to just love this game and tell us about it, without having to explain yourself to Brax, Tectone, or anyone else! You don't have to fight this fight, I promise you that you are better off not honoring their requests to dialogue or debate. You do not owe them anything. You owe yourself whatever is best for you, and trying to debate bullies is not mandatory! You are not responsible to fight that fight! None of us expect you to! Don't be taunted by those who would signal virtue where there is none, and argumentative fallacies because they have no other way to discredit you. Your recent reactions to things are understandable. They will keep winding you up more, and pushing you to react this way so often, however, that they will paint your character as the aggressive guy. We know that is not the case. So, please, firstly know that we are here to have fun WITH and ALONGSIDE you. Then, consider not honoring their calls for debate anymore, and only engage with people who wish to have friendly collaborations instead! Don't waste your time with bullies, they will turn you into them. Stay pure as you are, and don't let them shame you for doing just that! They don't deserve your hours. They don't deserve your effort. Let them cry about it for a while, but if you don't mind them, they will get bored eventually :D Vibesvibesvibes
"Make you out to be the villain'" Saintontas spends his time personally attacking other content creators and spreading negativity around the wuwa community space. Don't start crying when you hit someone and they hit you back
@@TeriTeri732Too bad they miss so much with the return hits. While Saint often hits bulsseyes
Bracks: "I would prefer characters be mandatory for specific teamcomps so Hoyo can milk me for money, rather than how WuWa's healers are more a preference of playstyle and choice."
I think Atsu may have caused him some irreparable brain damage 😔
Vars made a WuWa video for Genshin players, thats good, it keeps the hyper Hoyo shills away from WuWa, they are the reason Genshin is the way it is, let them ruin ZZZ with the same team comp meta as Genshin
dont worry we are gatekeeping them out of zzz by gooning hard
@@ahmedtag3904 based
glad to watch this whole thing live
I think most of Brax points based on this video was not based on facts but opinions or guesses one of them was about him assuming that a video was sponsored or what vars was thinking when he was saying those as if he was vars himself. Hopefully Brax learns more about Wuwa to make better content about it.
Honestly this is all man-made because most can't even talk about the game itself and it is just a way to fuel views for content and to make money which is fine but there is no drama. It is all artificial for views and make this community look worst then it is. I try looking for guides for the game and only see this BS that normal people that play the game don't care about and only want game info. I keep seeing this on my feed and it is annoying as hell.
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The issue is how unnecessarily hot-headed a lot of this has been lately - because if it had all been approached like this video/stream, that would've set Saint apart as not only incredibly knowledgable on how unique every character/mechanic/enemy is but also that his indignation against CC's spouting nonsense when it impacts the opinion of thousands of people is justified and was handled with such maturity that he rightfully earns the respect of the gaming community. Nothing wrong with being angry as a response to lies, but your knowledge needs to do the punching, not slander.
So, Saint "won" the victory with knowledge, but the condescension to get there was tacky
The irony is that ppl saying that other's just can't handle Saint giving them the truth....Saint flips out so easily and he bans ppl for emotionally charged reasons....how is that any less fragile emotionally? Strong emotions are good, what you do with them shows where your strength is/isn't.
There's no way I'm defending other CC's either - Brax and Vars should not act knowledgable about a game they clearly don't play much and GachaSmack flippantly made points he couldn't be bothered to suggest improvements for or even clarify what he truly meant. I'm super disappointed in Brax that he makes guides by learning just enough to show how their kit works and then doesn't even play them enough to clear TOA or look into their unique mechanics outside of the basics we can read in the game - so even if Saint was "farming drama" with these reaction videos, the other CC's are also farming views for a paycheck by misleading players without a care for making sure they are honest.
It just sucks all around and I hope moving forward other CCs will get their act together and stop faking knowledge and that Saint provides the objectivity he expects of others instead of raging.
EDIT:
Additional thought - a 5 hour stream breaking down a bad take is totally justified if that's how long it takes to get to the bottom of something and I get it because in order to PROPERLY understand/respond to someone's critique, you break it down bit by bit and credit or dismantle each part, playing devils advocate and then evaluating if their point has any merit or if it should be replaced with the evidence of something better/true. That is literally critical thinking. So to Saint's credit, he was doing due diligence in that regard (and as an INTJ personality, I totally get it).
Other people see that as being nit-picky when it is not at all. Dismantling the argument itself is not a personal attack - It was the banning tirade and the discouraging personal remarks during stream that was out of control and an over the top reaction revealing the logical critique was no longer constructive but excessively aggressive. Great that Saint took ownership to change that in future reacts - and so gotta credit that Saint didn't deflect or double down out of pride, at least in this stream lol
I'm 36, so I don't like drama or BS. I really liked this video and how you changed perspective, I have been loving your content, and agree with Tec that the tone was erring a little bit towards the harsh side. I think you have a lot of potential, and would easily become one of the best gacha content creator in the future.
Brax real problem is that he lacks skills and doesn't truly know how to play the game. There is nothing wrong with the team building in Wuwa. You cannot fully compare Wuwa's teams to Genshin, for Genshin is a game that has been out for 3 years+ and therefore has 3 times as many characters. It has no "identity crisis", this is Brax showing his lack of skills and lack of understanding of the game, which is rather embarrassing tbh. Brax should seriously stop talking about a game he has no idea about and just stick to Genshin. And yes, Saint, it's very insulting and you has every right to speak against it. I am just as upset/angry at what Brax is saying.
In all fairness saint deserves to be insulting, who on gods earth want to listen to a video with false information, I don’t care how he says what he says I only care about not wasting my time
Holy shit brax does not know shit about wuwa
Shittone "mediating" is the biggest joke I've heard all year. We all know his sole purpose is to stoke conflict and drama.
We are all here for the drama this is no guide video🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drama was already there without tectone help. Also it doesnt matter if its tectone or other without a mediator all this cc's are unhinged and just talk out their ass. Missinformation is running ramnpant right now based of the cc agenda. When theres a mediator all of the suddenly are composed and try to control their languange.
You know the actual problem of content creators?. THIS video itself. Just bunch of yap, not even doing actual content in the game, I've seen more Gacha drama than Gacha Content today and it's CRAZY
Maygi and Rexlent. My go to 😂
Watch those .exe or something along the lines, there's a lot of it
@@eijey9803 gotta respect you there, Rexlent is the Saving Grace of these cesspool of slop content
2:46 I have an intense dislike of this guy. He has the personality of day-old toast. Just bland.
Yeah no youre totally right and I much prefer how you handled the criticism tonally here. Its weird how kuro will have a CC act like that, feels like overcorrection to the 'toxic positivity' lane of GI and frankly not constructive but negligent. Precision matters
1:16:10 tectone pretty much sums up Saint's approach, and as to why his community somewhat got divided. Personally i also don't like his takes when he was talking with ryuuku, it was obvious that he got tilted midway (also ryuuku) and got lost in the sauce
I watched up until after the notepad points were addressed and they agreed, I don't need any ifs ands or buts. The dude was speaking in absolutes and they acknowledge he was wrong but then doubling down and defending him in what they "think" he means is CRAZY to me.
Yo just finished good fucking video hoping to see soon saint x brax . Saint growing as more "friendly" cc with his good point on topics only mean wuwa cc space are gonna do better and better
My dude is critiquing an opinion piece b-roll. I don't know why anyone is platforming this guy, he is just farming for drama. No one has this much drama within a week if they are not looking for it.
Me proudly outperforming Saint with Camellia team on that boss (had 2 min left)
I used to watch Vars about 2-3 years ago. His content mainly focused on discussing issues with Genshin characters and mechanics. I'm not sure what his content is like now, but even back then, while I often agreed with the problems he pointed out, I almost always disagreed with the alternative solutions he proposed. This is just my personal opinion, though. He compares mechanics across many games and suggests solutions based on those comparisons, but what works in one game doesn't necessarily work in another, and genshin doesn't like to just give out solutions without a cost (or as you would say it without strings attached). This is probably just him going about Wuwa the same way as he always has for Genshin, except the devs here are quick to fix whatever the issue a player has that is justified. We have seen that with 5* echo drop rates, double reward collection, waveplate overflow, fixing some voice acting, and even one of the most fundamental aspect of the game, echos, they improved it for 2.0 (leaks) and much more that I probably dont remember. So if you see the devs implementing any of the "fixes" for whatever vars critiqued then maybe he was right, obviously not 100% if not then we know our league of legends master player saintontas is right, I love your content, but as tectone and brax pointed out you are going too aggressive mode on other cc's, and I dont watch other cc's so I have no reason to defend them either.
Great summary video. I'm surprised on how good a moderator Teccy is.
Kurobot vs the entire genshill
another best drama before ending this year
5:12 no wonder you are so good in speaking while doing differrent stuff.
Meanwhile i am horrible and i have to record multiple times and edit out all gaffs and stutters.
I am getting better though but i have a long way to go .
I think the conversation went pretty well ❤
beanie teccy on thumbnail is wild
The Man of the moment
Would be great if Kuro could fix their dogass targeting system and camera. It has been ass since launch, and is still ass till this day. I have never seen it this bad in ANY other gacha. Even bloody Tower of Fantasy got it right.
THIS. 1000% THIS. My god, that camera during combat is so ass.
Bro is really reacting to everything, you gotta do what you gotta do, as long as you are on the side of truth its a good fight.
Thou I dont have time to watch every 5-3 hours react you put out and putting it as a background noise end with me not understanding half of it😂😂😂
I like you content and quides but I was more a fan of the thought provoking videos you did back before CiYu tried to cancel you for speculation.
It is my belief that truth should always preveil even if it will take years of struggle if it preveils at the end it was worth it
YOU HAVE A 5 STAR EDITOR NICE
43311 should i put crit on my shorekeeper
crit dmg for more dmg but probably hp better
@@toufiq309 crit damage for S6 Shorekeeper
Depends how you feel about what your Shorekeeper should do.
Crit dmg for bigger stellarealm nuke
Healing bonus, self explanatory
HP, not as good as healing bonus but still considerable healing with a bit better general dmg
saint will be extra mature and professional in the coming future, saint can be chill sometimes guys
Crit Dmg and HP
Saintontas is heavily misunderstood. WuWa’s been unfairly targeted from all corners, and most content creators are just hopping on the hate train, profiting from the drama. It’s obvious that Saintontas goes after those spreading hate and misinformation about the game and its community, and I’m all for his content on WuWa. He’s far from a "gl*ze" - sure, he puts out some gl*zy videos now and then, but he also critiques the game fairly, like when he talks about shielders and the Jue fight. The drama? It’s all just clickbait farming. These so-called content creators don’t know two sh**s about gameplay mechanics. For example, some still think LT is better than VT on Yao. That just shows they’re here for the views and to boost their engagement. Ignoring the drama is the way to go. Giving them attention is just stupid, but I get why the frustration builds up. Gacha Smack had some valid points, but his insulting behavior just showed how insecure he is - banning people from his community who disagree with him and spouting slurs at others only proves the point. Iyo has consistent crashouts and bad takes, and it’s clear he’s just trying to pander to Hoyoverse now. Mr Pokke is just a m**t-riding sh**L, spewing clickbait thumbnails and titles whenever his wallet starts feeling thin. Jenazad? I don’t know much about that, so I’ll leave that one alone. Fob God? His takes are terrible, and he’s too ego-driven to admit he’s wrong. I think he got frustrated after Saint countered him on Gacha Cast and just started spouting whatever nonsense he could. Ryuuku’s videos are actually good, though just because it’s a gacha problem doesn’t mean it can be disregarded. People will ride Hoyoverse for engagement, just to be tourists in these games. I used to watch all these content creators, but after all this, it’s clear who’s genuine and who isn’t. They just react to Saintontas’s videos about defending the game he likes, calling things as well as many people out, and having the audacity to call him a "KuroB**T Kuro S***L warrior" just to keep the drama hype going is just pure pathetic. My advice? Just avoid all this drama. If something persists, just be clear and leave - this cycle of hypocrisy will never stop.
Sure there are some people who are not like that but most of them are just Hypocritic
Did you just censor the word glaze like it was a slur? Lmao
@@Aswero21 Indeed I had to because people are insensitive asf
@@KarmaKun-t4w diabolical
I think take "Characters in Wuwa wasn't specifically made for each other" is completely wrong. Yinlin, for example, is fits perfectly with Calcharo and Xiangli Yao. Also she can be used with Jinhsi because of Coordinate attacks. But using Yinlin with Changli makes no sense. And fact, that characters can be used in multiple team compositions gives a freedom in teambuilding. You can build more teams using only 26 existing characters and don't feel that your choice is strictly limited. But you can't take a bunch of random characters and create an effective team, you still need to use brain.
It's not just those two that have problems. But most of the content creators now just talk nonsense and make up stories, even say toxic things to harm the games. Don't listen to them, if you play the game and feel like it, keep going and stop listening to their nonsense
48:49 brax got brain fucked by HSR power crept lmaooooooooo
All i know is players need both casuals and hardcores.
Brax does his absolute best with his work and whats given to him hence why he’s in early access in general.
Clearly ppl here are viewing him thru rose tinted glasses bc he was in genshin. That’s hella disingenuous and closed minded.
Saint on the other hand is needed for those who wanna moreso understand the game more on a deeper level. When it comes to things like i-framing particular attacks, hyper armor etc.
So I say all this to say, ill still be watching both of them because I trust both of them having seen their growth and content.
I love this game but I don't enjoy it because people that what drama for Intertemet. that's why I feel like leaving or getting angry. but I enjoy playing it but there are things in my heart that feel lonely.
I like how you timestamps your videos.
I like the takes on echoes presented by brax, that is actually a great take.
Everything after is kinda... Biased and sad to hear that coming out of his mouth,
At this point, contents from these kind of creators should be called Wuthering Drama 🙄🙄🙄
Tectone is trying to use you as his scapegoat.
I just see Brax having HoYo brain rot.
1:06:00 i mean brax is just describing t-dawg
I mean There are things that are personal opinions and that is nice, but I feel
It is still a bit annoying to compare so much wuwa and genshin. Like , why the complain of not having specific supports for specific characters when there are not even all types of dps out? Like I don’t think is a bad thing that wuwa is still getting their own style of team building and things like that…. I think is fine. Why everything needs to be solve now? They are getting there. But their gaming system is really fun, it has its different things . (No need to discuss is genshin better or not)
Saintontas being the final boss these days 😭
Brax is caping for his friend so hard he came off irrational. You cant critique a game while having footage showing yourself playing badly.
It sends the wrong message: its misinforming the players and for players like me i clicked off Vars video not only because of that trash play but also because his criticisms became nonsensical and contradicting.
If you are incapable of properly articulating logical criticisms, then the best thing for you to do is stay quiet until you can.
Their arguments essentially boil down to extremely vague criticisms that run along the lines of "its not genshin enough" which is stupid.
Most people outside the genshin fandom do NOT like characters that must be glued to other characters.
The r1999 fanbase had a huge problem with Mercuria being glued to marcus.
All their arguments boiled down to: you sounded mean to my grossly misinformed friend and Wuwa isnt genshin enough for me so its bad.
The whole "they shouldve dived more into their identity" is such vague horse crap. Wuwas world is very alive.
Npcs patrol and attack TDs, TDs attack each other, there are TDs that absorb each other like predators.
You have to completely ignore the game youre playing to see that. If you want a safari mode cool but dont screw up up my material hunting trails for a novelty that people barely pay attention to in the first place.
The fact that they could only circle back to the team building isnt genshin enough means they dont really have a criticism.
Its GOOD that its not genshin, i like having a character that works with multiple groups and not one playstyle.
They want to accuse the game of being a genshin clone but then complain that its not a clone.
The repeating of the elemental reaction system is dumb as well. You dont need to know that much to win in genshin, i took. Huge break owned nearly every character, came back got Neuv, got Furina and beat the endgame repeatedly with the same teams over and over because floor is that low
Genshin rewards not interacting with the enemies and once you can achieve this the game rolls over dies
I need to block those people.
Nice discussion
Yeah call bs on clearing without needing to dodging or whatever, they can legit one shot at times
forget tryna make friends
This Brax guy can't even pass the Hazard Zone and he making guide ? WTF wrong with CC nowaday
Slander, defamation, and libel is what comes from disinformation (false information presented as fact) and directly harms the product, reputation, business. Saintontas was absolutely correct in calling him out. Brax was on the receiving end of such slander, and defamation, and like he said he never recovered from it. Why would he now defend someone doing the exact same thing to someone else? The dude was lucky that people only shit on him, he runs the risk of getting a lawsuit. He presented something as fact not an opinion and it was false. That is a prosecutable offense. Sorry Brax, but in this case Brax is wrong. Having someone bring attention to false information and legally damning is a responsibility of decent and moral people. Doesn’t matter if they are a CC or a twitch chatter, a friend, or your competitor. Bringing attention to someone spreading disinformation so that they can course correct is the height of kindness. He could have reported it to Kuro or the police and he would suffer legal ramifications instead of “oh people shitting in his chat”…the response from Brax isn’t worth the air it took to say it out loud. Yikes
carrot guys is annoying and mindlessly defending his point of view, I know everyone can have it's own opinion, but lets put this in another perspective for example, global warming, anyone is free to think whatever they like about it, but I'm also allowed to think that people with no background, not understanding, and just refusing to accept scientific evidence because they think differently, are just plain dumb.
you can extrapolate this example to wuwa and the whoever carrot guy is mindedly defending.
Ok no, even if you put minimal effort into a video, it is WRONG to misinform people. You can say you do not like the game , that is fine, but saying thing like this character is generoc without explaining why, also saying team building is bad , without knowing how to play. Just say that you do not like it, maybe do not like the dodging system, do not lile the dynamic of intros , I mean it’s fine not like it, but declaring it is bad or wrong without knowing what you are talking about is just not knowing how to talk and embarrassing
Saint, you should turn up your volume.While others are loud, I can barely hear you.
Vars could borderline get a defamation case because of what he said. And here's braxophone trying to defend the guy until the very end. Absolute comedy. Telling people to be nice to your friend even when he is lying and spreading misinformation, what are you pretending to be? Going around other peoples chat to defame the guy as well, saying you don't know the full context. DISGUSTING.
Below is the responce I got from chatgpt after asking the defamation thing related to vars,
can you file a defemation case on a youtuber if they slander a video game, spreading misinformation and lies about the game?
ChatGPT said:
Yes, it is possible to file a defamation lawsuit if a RUclipsr spreads misinformation and slanders a video game in a way that harms the reputation of the game or its creators. However, a few important factors must be considered:
1. Defamation Criteria:
To pursue a defamation case, there are several key elements that must be proven:
False Statement: The RUclipsr must have made a statement that is false. Opinions are generally not considered defamatory, but false factual claims could be.
Harm to Reputation: You must show that the statement harmed the reputation of the game, its developers, or the brand. This might be harder to prove in some cases, but if the video leads to loss of sales or public backlash, it may be easier.
Unprivileged Statement: The statement made must be one that is not protected by legal privilege, such as opinions, fair criticism, or statements made in specific legal or political contexts.
Negligence or Actual Malice: In some cases, especially when it involves public figures or companies, you might need to show that the RUclipsr acted with "actual malice" (knowing the information was false or disregarding the truth).
2. Challenges in Defamation Cases Involving Media:
Public Figures: If the video game is considered a public figure or a product in the public domain, you might face higher hurdles, especially in the U.S., under the "actual malice" standard.
Freedom of Speech: RUclips content creators are often protected by free speech rights, and courts tend to be cautious about stifling opinions, especially if the creator is offering commentary or criticism.
Quantifying Harm: Proving the direct harm caused by the slander can be difficult. This could involve showing lost revenue, negative reviews, or a decrease in user engagement as a result of the video.
3. Alternative Actions:
RUclips's Content Moderation: If the video violates RUclips's policies (e.g., spreading false information, harassment, or harmful content), you can flag it or report it to RUclips. The platform may remove the content if it violates their community guidelines.
Public Response: Sometimes, issuing a public response or clarification from the game’s developers or publishers can be an effective strategy to counter misinformation and restore the game’s reputation.
Cease and Desist: Before filing a lawsuit, many companies choose to send a cease and desist letter to the RUclipsr, demanding the removal of the slanderous content.
4. Legal Process:
If you decide to pursue a defamation lawsuit, you'd need to:
Consult with a Lawyer: It's essential to work with a lawyer who specializes in defamation, intellectual property, or media law.
Gather Evidence: Collect evidence of the false statements and how they affected the game’s reputation.
Evaluate Costs: Lawsuits can be expensive and time-consuming, and the outcome is never guaranteed. Many defamation cases settle out of court.
Conclusion:
While filing a defamation lawsuit is theoretically possible, it's usually a last resort due to the challenges involved. It’s often better to address misinformation through other means, such as public clarification, direct communication with the RUclipsr, or working with platforms like RUclips to remove harmful content.
"defamation case" lmao. classic kurobot
@@dimastoding9441i know defamation is highly unlikely.
But saying "typical korobot" just protrays how much actually your IQ is low.
Sony legit start striking videos when people just not liking LOU2.
And there is nintendo. Which i dont think we need an explnation for it
So no.
If koro decide that video should not be on youtube, no one can do anything about it.
We have saw this a billion times on youtube already
I didnt watch the Video, neither did i poop clean today, it was a chaotic experience sorry.
But i have one thing to say about anything. The Situation Situation is crazy, you know?
But what i am really want to say is.. we dont need Gatcha or Content Creators if we have a Stone called Rocky.
Lol
Saint gonna make you faint if you dont come correct 💯
If i ever need a friend to defend me, I'd have brax anyday, Man's doing God's work while Vars hiding in his basement
league stream with tectone when
Brax is too soft. Saint crashed out too hard. Valid to roast someone when they have lazy content, but 3+ hours over a 15 min vid is too much and lowers the quality of the critique.
Why is there always so much drama b/w gacha content creators???
Ugh You can't take anything iyo says it all seriously he wears a dunce cap when he talks about these games
Make guides on XY and Changli dual dps
glad to see this
Braxophone EOS coming?
Problem with wuwa's CC: you exist
Hoyotard detected.
@PythonDelta nice opinion, sadly you are wrong
@@PythonDelta also getting hit by a godrick phase transition attack lol, skill issue
finally... is it over, there is too much drama about this, can we go back to make content about the game "literally" about the game