We just re leased with them and are on our second t roc as we loved our first and have gone up one model to the one before the R line and we re leased 4 days ago and get our new one in 7 days from today. Don't know where you're getting this wait of 18 months. We got lucky with our first one as we got in 2020 and had an unbelievable deal and got any colour we wanted at no extra cost because they had a batch load of VW cars stuck in Dover because of COVID and they needed to shift them. So £265 a month for a £32k car and now we refinanced for just just an extra £19 a month for a new model. As we are returning customers who never missed a payment and have kept the car in pristine condition. If we were new customers we would be looking at over £300 a month for the bottom line one. I guess it's depending on what dealership show room you go to and who you are dealing with. We used Helston VW and they're fantastic.
I have been using my R-line Taigo now bit over a month. Gotta say it's just brilliant, love it. Comfy seats, big booth and bit agressive motor gearbox combination. Only minus I can say after my last car (2021 model Polo) that this Taigo is pretty thirsty for a gasoline on my driving style.
I test drove both and went for the T Roc. Unsurprisingly was like driving a jacked up Polo versus a Golf. Ride, noise, packaging and revised interior of TRoc way better IMO.
The vag group have gone a bit mad with SUV models. Seat, Skoda, Audi and VW have all got several in their range. I don't mind them but I think I still prefer an estate, which often gives more room.
Agreed, Golf Estate won't be much more expensive than a Taigo with the same spec but it's just not as desirable to the average buyer, rational decisions like amount of space are often overlooked in favour of emotional influences.
I've had a 1ltr T-roc and and 1.5ltr T-roc and the difference was quite stark! The 1.5 had better economy but the lowly 1 ltr was FAR far far more nippy and comfortable - it was a far better car to drive. I originally thought I maybe had a bad car with the 1.5 but having tried a few I'd go for the 1ltr every time. But I'm also aware that the 1 ltr engine comes in several different stages of tune depending on the model so that might not translate across the range (the 1 ltr golf or polo felt gutless but the original t-roc had almost the same output as the 1.4 TSI, which was pretty good)
I've had a Golf 1.4 TSi. After that a manual up! TSi with a 1.0ltr. Nowadays I drive a Polo 1.0 TSi automatic. I gotta say that the most fun of the them all is the up!. Golf is too big and too polish and too "fancy" I'd say. The Polo is a nice balance between these other two
I don't get that either. If it wouldn't had that I might could have been persuaded to buy the Taigo. I like the model, I nearly bought one... bought a used T-roc instead.
Thanks J! I drive both electric parking brake and normal handbrake on a regular basis and you get used to them - worse than a manual handbrake is a badly configured epb as some of the early ones were but the newer ones are hard to fault
It’s because the Taigo is based on the Polo which sits on the MQB A0 platform and due to cost and no doubt packaging constraints, they all receive a manual handbrake. Taigo has an identical Polo interior which not many notice
Very interesting as always, Andrew. This was very pertinent to my experience. I started to look at changing my 2018 Tiguan in February this year, but really wanted something a little smaller. I was most interested in the facelifted T-Roc having seen the magazine articles at the end of 2021. As soon as I walked into dealership, I was shown the Taigo which had just been delivered. It was an R-Line but I just didn't like the interior. The first thing that caught my eye was the manual handbrake. Then the horrible hard dashboard which looked the same as the T-Cross and reminded me of the original T-Roc (and that was one of the main reasons I decided against the T-Roc at that time. The other being the 1.0 engine as there were no 1.5's coming through at the time. Yes, it was nippy but so "buzzy"). Driving the Taigo brought back the same impressions. It was also in black and frankly in my opinion that didn't help its looks. I do like the green of this one that you drove however and it sets it off better in my opinion. I was not impressed with most of the colours available at time of ordering on the T-Roc. I thought the Kings Red was by far the nicest and went for that. The sales person agreed with me about the hard plastics in the Taigo and said that the dash in the revised T-Roc was much nicer which I'd thought on seeing the press releases. He did admit that there'd been a lot of criticism of the T-Roc plastics since launch. There was very little info available on the facelifted T-Roc but after driving a 1.0 litre Black edition that was available and mechanically identical to the forthcoming car, I thought it much more refined than the Taigo and the higher driving position suited my needs better. I don’t know whether there has been change to the Taigo dash since February but I certainly didn’t remember any softer plastics at the time and I was told it was the same as the T-Cross. I was able to place a provisional order at that stage for a T-Roc 1.0 Style. I had test driven several other cars (Honda, Toyota, Audi Q2 and Cupra). The 1.5 Formentor had been top of my list but I just couldn't get comfortable in it and the driving position was too low but the interior quality was at the level of Audis I'd previously driven. I drove the DSG 1.5 which was ok but I personally preferred the manual change. I then had a month until order books opened for the T-Roc. During that time, I kept thinking whether I'd made the right choice. On the day that the order book opened, I received links from the dealer to the online brochures and configurators. I ended up building 1.5 versions of the Style and R-Line with differing options. In the end I decided upon the R-Line mainly because of the body styling. I think the new front end of the T-Roc is a huge improvement over the original but there have not been enough changes at the rear on the Life and Style versions from the original and it still looks "dumpy and on stilts" in my eyes. In contrast the original R rear bumper styling was incorporated in the facelifted R-Line and looked much better to me. At the time I was told that delivery should be late May/early June. However, this came and went. The dealer kept me up to date regularly showing me the factory system build status. In June it changed to show that build had been completed and it was awaiting shipping. I was told that it would be a maximum of 6 weeks. Nevertheless, by the time August came, the status had still not changed. I then discovered that there were over 1700 UK T-Rocs parked in a site next to the docks in Setubal. Mine was one of them as was the whole dealership stock. Word on internet for this was that partially-built cars were being moved from the factory to await fitting of missing parts. The 10.2” screen was mentioned particularly but it seemed to be manual R-Lines that were in the majority. During this time, I kept my eyes peeled at vehicles on the road. There were plenty Taigos and the showroom had 3 or 4 in it when I went in a couple of times, however I saw maybe 3 or 4 22 reg T-Rocs, all bar one being Styles and that was a DSG convertible! I was rather surprised when you comment in the video that Taigos are rarer than T-Rocs as that has not been my experience in the North East. Taigos were available to buy from February onwards and I've seen quite a lot.There are still very few facelifted T-Rocs about at the moment and most are Styles. From online forum comments, I understand that the number of incomplete built VWs is still increasing and some have been waiting 7 months since order. Some options that were available at the time (Intelligent IQ lighting) have been removed but the advertising Brochure (as viewed last week) still infers the R-Line has head lights and light grilles which you can’t now order. Mine was eventually delivered in late September. I’ve now put 1,000 miles on it and I’m so glad I went for the 1.5 R-Line. I know the Tiguan is a brick aerodynamically but already the fuel economy is reaching 45mpg on the display which is about 6 mpg better than the Tiguan. I was interested in your observation about both cars having steering wheels with proper buttons on them. Mine has the haptic controls which I’ve found easier to use then I expected based on reviews. However, I did see an article last week reporting that the head of VW had said they were going back to buttons on steering wheels due to negative customer feedback about the haptic wheels. Alternatively maybe parts avaialbility has contributed to this well? One criticism that I do have of the T-Roc interior is the rear door cards. These look the same as my friend’s 2020 T-Roc S, i.e., basic black hard plastic and do not match the front door cards. I think that is poor in a car costing ~£33k. Nevertheless, I like the car. It sits on the optional 18” wheels which I think give a good balance between the standard 17” which looks plain wrong and the ride on the ultra-low profiles of the 19” and the much higher probability of kerb damage. I’m certainly over the moon with the colour which really stands out and there were very positive comments when it had the ceramic coating and PPF professionally installed (“It makes a nice change to have a car in for work which isn’t black, white or grey and that really pops”)
Thanks for all that Rory B, it's always good to understand the buying process of real owners. I forgot to mention the rear door cards on the T Roc in that video but I think I did in the T Roc R video which is basically R line inside. I really wish VW would stop downgrading rear door cards as it's a very visible way of reminding owners that the accountants rule the roost. It's interesting about the Taigo dash plastics, maybe R line is better than lesser models? I had a quick look around in a Taigo in a video earlier this year when I test drove WOB registered T-Roc in the UK and I made a point of saying dash was soft touch, that was an early RHD car on a 71 plate - weird. Your T-Roc 1.5 TSI R line is a great package so enjoy it👍👍👍
Me just now ordering t-Roc 2023 1.5 automatic Style version + other packages. cant wait! was considering taigo due to lower price but I think I made the right choice!
So the T-Cross, Taigo and T-Roc are all fighting for the same target consumers while not having enough key differences to really set one apart from the other. In my view, this is a silly move by VW. Building 3 “different” cars which are virtually the same only helps raise manufacturing costs, which get passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
@@arlofsbut it barely costs them anything. They use the same platforms for VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Porsche, Lamborghini and even Bentley in some cases. It’s simply market differentiation which is made much cheaper by economies of scale. The Taigo shares everything with a Polo/ T Cross and the T Roc is basically a Golf MK7. Both of those platforms still underpin many cars from so many other brands including the Audi A1, Q2 and Q3 and even other cars in VW’s own range.
Sharing the basic Polo chassis with the T-Cross, the Taigo is a spacious, compact family car for those who don't like chunky looking SUVs. The better fuel economy thanks to superior aero says it all. One advantage the T-Roc has thanks to its Golf platform share is the option of 4WD, which some might need if they live out in the country. As for manual handbrakes, I prefer them to electric ones on manual cars for total control when parking between other cars on a slope!
actually electric handbrakes are better on a slope between cars cus you can simply let out the clutch and maybe give it a tiny bit of gas and the handbrake will automatically release so you can set off safely
Which one? Short answer for me: neither! Fair play to you though, that's an objective review - that's why I'd be hopeless at doing what you do, I'd struggle to leave my preconceived anti-SUV feelings behind - a good reviewer can rise above that, I guess. I don't "get" the Taigo at all - it's clearly based on the Polo (judging by the dashboard) & is, really, just a high riding Polo to me. I'd also assumed the Taigo was a replacement for the T-Cross, not an extra model. How many SUVs do VW actually NEED in their range anyway! I also don't "get" why anyone would want a 2wd SUV (but plenty seem to) - I thought the whole point of SUVs was to go where a normal car couldn't go. I absolutely detest light bars too (particularly the rear ones - hugely distracting if you're following someone on a twisty road at night) - it would actually put me off a car if it had them. The handbrake is an interesting one - my Wife's just bought a 69 plate Audi A1 DSG Style edition (35 TFSi), roughly equivalent to the engine in that T-Roc. I actually quite like it (although it's maybe different with a manual), easy to leave the handbrake off if it's going to be lying for over a day. The electronic version on my Golf is good too, though (& definitely works better with a DSG).
Thanks as ever for your feedback Andrew. As you say, I've been unable to ignore the demand for SUVs and have to review them objectively because sales numbers are high and I hope this equates to viewing figures. It's weird but Taigo feels a lot more of a car than a Polo yet it's as you say a high riding Polo. I think manufacturers are exploiting this perception of added value from high riding cars and profit margins are a bit chunkier as a result which lets face it is what it's all about for them. It's an interesting observation about rear light bars, I wonder if they reduce the response to brake lights from following drivers? I'm also pleased the A1 has a manual parking brake as I took a flyer than all MQB A0 cars had one and if the 'premium' A1 has then they all probably do. As for 2WD SUVs, they are cheaper to make, emit less Co2 & require less servicing so they are more affordable on PCP. I am sure the manufacturers did a vox pop of buyers and found AWD was a low priority (but om T Roc at least you get the choice). I am not sure if any MQB A0 car has AWD as it needs independent rear suspension, hence why we didn't get a new S1 :(
Well done Andrew another great review my t roc is also a 1.5 150 and I would agree with all you say it is lovely to sit up high but for driving dynamics I miss my golf which always put a smile on my face The interior seems better on the latest t roc mine has been disappointing and have had pieces of trim fall off and generally feels a real downgrade from the golf The Taigo does look a nice car and yours is the best review I’ve seen of it I love that lime green colour I think I would stay with the MQB cars to keep the electronic parking brake now but I do think it brings something to the range and was very impressed with the one I sat in when mine was in for service Is there too much choice now Andrew in the range?
There is something about the window line towards the rear that reminds me of the original Hyundai Pony from 1980s but other than I think Taigo is quite handsome but looks as ever are subjective, I'll be very interested if people will pay more for a T Roc
@@volkswizard - side window profile reminded me of the Ford Focus... I suppose the extra rear 3/4 window will improve visibility at junctions and when merging.
@@volkswizard In my country the base price difference between the (current) Taigo and T-roc is almost 4000 euro. I bought a T-roc mid-covid (1.TSI, manual) and it's a great car, but gun to my head now I'd pick the Taigo - it's Life spec includes more things than you possibly need and more things than my T-roc has. The driving dynamics are almost completely identical, although the T-roc probably has better aftermarket support (being based on the MK7 Golf).
Drove a teigo rental in holiday pauper spec. Horrid little petrol engine and bouncy fat tyres mated to a dumb 5 speed manual that needed up down changes constantly. Don't whatever you do buy this engine or gearbox or fat tyres. Make sure you have lower profile tyres the 1.5 litre petrol and 6 speed manual (assuming there is one)
Nice review Andrew. Of these two, i would choose the Taigo, its appearance is less disagreeable But in reality neither. IMHO there are too many SUV's and crossovers and I agree with previous comment from 'TheShinyShow, it is now difficult to tell one from another., in the same way as it is the difference between a Beko and a Bosch washing machine It may be because of the U in SUV that i see them as Utility items. I for one would rather have a 'proper car' and not be a lemming.
I'm glad we agree on Taigo but we also agree on the 'neither; when speaking from a personal perspective. It's not a bad car though and for £30k is all the car a lot of people would ever need but how much is the same Polo? £5k less. Just checked and weirdly Polo R line doesn't come with the 1.5 TSI so 1.0 TSI 110 DSG and it's £29500 ish Taigo and £24500 ish Polo. I haven't checked specs but that seems a lot of cash for some more air in the wheel arches.
Brilliant review , covering a lot of important information. The dash area on the two cars looked a lot more friendly than the golf . I think the new t-roc is better than the last model. It's a pity Vw did not develop have hybrid on their cars a big mistake I think
Good video, very thorough. I find the introduction of the Taigo puzzling tbh, even from a sales point of view, as you said it doesn't really offer anything unique.
I think while the T Roc was funky looking when it came out, it's quite conservative now and VW lack a really 'stylish' small SUV to rival unconventional and successful small SUV designs like the Nissan Juke amongst others.
i compare my skoda karoq sportline , 1.5tsi dsg with option travel assist pack and spare wheel £37000 now match the t roc which would compare with the r line 1.5 dsg , the spec is not even close to the skoda , matrix headlights standard , rear camera standard , full panaramic roof standard , wireless charging standard , 19 inch wheels standard , easy toucyh access with electric tail gate standard , skoda comes with 3 year breakdown cover , audi and vw only one year .............. reliability skoda are higher than vw and audi , and to top it all off throw in a nice umbrella .............. when looking at the troc r which is over 43k you get 16 inch wheels and have to pay extra for heated seats ? am surprised they give you a steering wheel ?
I love my manual handbrake in the 2008 MkV GTI. Which is now 14 and 89,000 kms. A new GTI close to $69k down under. Wow. T Roc R close to $60k. Golf R. Salesman tells me $80k. If you can get one. The Taigo who knows if we will see it. I don't think Australia is high on Vw priority list. Could be wrong?. Looks like I will not be parting with my car.
@@volkswizard our roads in Victoria are potholes central. Our freeways if you can call them that are speed limited to either 80 or occasionally 100 km/h. They are in a terrible state. Even on my 17s the ride is very Rocky. Recent heavy rains on the whole east coast if Australia has ruined our whole food system roads and lives. The T Roc was all black. I like moonstone grey which I saw on the golf R line. Cheers Andrew.
Thanks Jim, much appreciated. Back to the Friday release this week but that's going to be tricky next week and the week after but definitely at least one per week 👍
Very good video Andrew. Im doubting between the Taigo R-line 110hp y el T-Roc Life 110hp. Both have a similar price..which of the two would you buy yourself? Thanks in advance.
It’s been a while but R line or Life for same price?! Has to be R line Taigo. I watched this video again recently and could not get over how Taigo beats T Roc, especially on efficiency, go for it👍
I get the impression that the Taigo is VW's attempt to use the (cheaper) Polo underpinnings for an SUV to see how it fares against the Golf-based T-Roc, using fancy styling as a ploy. If this is a success, then their ever- increasing cost cutting wins again. Seems like a race to the bottom amongst VW designers in recent years. My guess is the corporate culture has shifted massively in favour of prioritising cost-cutting over all else since the rather expensive diesel scandal.
T-Roc is MQB (not MQB A0 as Taigo) but both have torsion beam rear ends (at 150 PS at least) so apart from the handbrake being a keep fit version on Taigo I can't see or feel as a driver any other tangible difference so doubt a buyer would and Taigo is £2500 cheaper after all so I'm not sure it's a ploy as such but I do agree cost cutting has been rife since dieselgate though I was surprised to find Mk3 TT well before dieselgate and interior has clear been decontented with a definite styling ploy to distract buyers from this. New A3 interior is for me the worst post-dieselgate cost cutting exercsie and this applies to £70k RS3 as much as £25k entry level model where it's less of an issue.
@@volkswizard Good point on the torsion beam - I missed that somehow first time round. There is very little perceivable difference it seems. There is something very different about Volkswagen's philosophy now - far less conservative and far more "look at this" whilst hiding the things they've taken away. The new Skoda Octavia's interior is surprisingly plush... certainly more so than the Golf 8, so I have to confess to being a tad confused all round at what's going on. Personally the styling of the Taigo doesn't appeal to me. I saw one yesterday and the rear instantly reminded me of an 80s Skoda Rapid. I admit, that might be just that it's etched in my brain from my grandparents having one in the 80s, but if anyone else wants to compare and tell me I'm not alone, I'd appreciate that! :)
@@thomasj5083 As the former owner of a Golf Plus (58 plate Mk 5 Golf Platform with IRS) and a Tiguan 4MO DSG (63 plate) I was wondering around the sales pitch at VW whilst a buddy was fetching parts from TPS... the 15 plate Tiguan R they had was familiar but couldn't for the life of me work out the model hierarchy between the T-Cross / T-Roc / Taigo at all... strangely enough I recently sat consuming a meal deal at a petrol station near work and witnessed a woman refuelling her Golf Plus Cross ('08 plate) thinking that the cross versions of the Polo and Golf Plus were ahead of their time, like the Scout versions of the Skodas... seems the market / popularity has finally caught up! Was thinking of trading my 66' plate Kia Venga next spring when the warranty is up but can't find anything in VAG that interests me...
Can you clarify? I’ve checked the data but there are contradictions in official publications. I’ve given Taigo mpg comparisons with T Cross and later with T Roc
Anyone with a DSG taigo.. can you clarify if the brakes hold when you are at a traffic light on the brakes and you move your foot to the accelerator? Or does the car roll back and the handbrake have to be used? I’m thinking of trading in my aging mk7 golf with an electronic handbrake and not sure I could go back to constantly using the handbrake (even though I do regularly drive another car with a manual handbrake). If the handbrake only needed to be applied when parked, I think I could be persuaded by this car
I'm getting shrunken porsche macan vibes from the side profile of the taigo. I ordered a Taigo 1.0 life for the wife as a second car and it looks like there's a delay in the delivery due to the new car chip shortage.
It appears to be going all SUV i guess but the new Taigo looks better in my opinion and that Green is gorgeous. I'm a new subscriber and find your reviews very fair in comparison. Great Video!!
I like the green colour too - it does irritate me that VW (and they're certainly not the only manufacturer guilty of this) only tend to use the slightly unusual "funky" colours on their SUV type models. The Polo/Golf type cars always get the same old bland colours. It's a subliminal way of getting folk to spend more on an SUV than a "traditional" car (or maybe just paranoid 🤣).
It honestly doesn't feel like that inside, I expected it to be a notch down from new T Roc interior but perceived quality is largely equal aside from dash moulding which is just as soft as T Roc but extends further down. Carpets, seats etc are all about the same - rear door cards are also downgraded on T Roc and loose the contrast stitching. I was prepared to give it a kicking as T Roc as just about OK but if anything it's a touch better.
If it hasn't got a hand brake it's not on my radar , if it doesn't have real controls for the heater etc , it's a none starter......all this touch screen electrickery that takes your eyes away from the road is both stupid and dangerous.
You can get distracted by old skool user interfaces too, always remember someone on police camera action crashing into a parked car when trying to insert a cassette into the stereo! It's all about the driver to use their discretion, voice control makes life a lot easier and safer with modern cars. As for parking brake, if you've ever suffered when a car has rolled down a hill because a traditional handbrake has stopped working as the brake discs have cooled down (an inherent design flaw), you will appreciate the foolproof nature of the modern systems and most work seamlessly now
I have been considering the T-Roc and the Taigo, the inside quality of materials is very disappointing, So I am favouring the Golf instead. The interior is much nicer and you can have DCC! From a space viewpoint the rear boot space is smaller on the golf but I am sure the Golf rides much better on the road.
Hi Andrew and thanks for another great review of two cool cars! 😊 If I can pick one I think I go with the Taigo. I am a little bit keen on that one! Does it come in nardo grey? And black alloys to that color.😊👍
Hi Bernt, glad you enjoyed it! I'm with you on Taigo just because it's different and it's not as inefficient as your typical jacked up SUV. Sadly no Nardo grey, there is a grey I think but if you want to make a statement it has to be Visual green - agreed regarding the wheels though there are some lovely diamond cut wheels on a green Taigo towards the end of the video 😍
Hurray for Fridays! The Tiago seems not a bad effort imo if you are in the market for a stylish ‘coupe’ SUV although the manual handbrake and rear torsion beam would put me off . Does it point the way for the Golf replacement?
Glad to be back on Fridays as Sundays are not ideal for posting. I hope the Golf doesn't morph into any shape of SUV. It's all well and good companie selling whacky electric cars to people who want to convert to EV but don't have to. I'm afraid come 2030 I and I am sure a lot of other people will still want a Golf, albeit an electric one. Hopefully by then EVs will be sufficiently profitable for manufacturers to give us Golf size SUVs, with decent materials. After all, the Golf isn't the answer to every motorinh question for no reason and scrapping it like Ford has done with the Fiesta would be a totally short sighted move. Make it look like a Mk2 if they must but Golf must survive past 2030. SUVs are a short term fad anyway, efficiently (T Cross vs Taigo proves) will become paramount so lower cars will have to come back in fashion.
@@volkswizard Agree with a lot of that Andrew. I predict that cars will shrink in the next 20 years as material and tech enhancements allow smaller cars to be even safer. Brash is no longer cool amongst Gen X. Cities are changing too, with more of a focus on pedestrianisation and I think this will be reflected in car design. For what it’s worth, Klaus Zyciora (Head of VW Group design) heavily values Golf and still considers it one of his favourite and most important models (over ID.3 interestingly). He has stated that the Golf nameplate must live on, whether petrol or electric. I see the future iterations of the ID.3 as being the mass market warrior and Golf going back its routes as being a small hatch (in-between Polo and current Golf size) at a slightly higher price-point to eat up 1 Series/A Class sales with mk1/2 design throwbacks. Golf is sacrosanct in Wolfsburg and anybody coming with ideas to completely destroy the model that has been that has single-handedly sustained the whole city and region for 50 years would be an extremely brave and short-sighted individual.
There are downsides but main benefit is that cars no longer roll away down hills as it takes out user error and it also keep the pads tight when the discs cool down and contract.
@@volkswizard ahah, thats why my V60 I had back in 2012 used to eat rear breaks (every 16months), where as my 2016 subaru are still only just replaced after 8 years. That volvo was not cheap !
I'd love to, I've done Tiguan R already. I don't think it's easy to buy a Tiguan right now so VW UK didn't bring one to the driving day but it's a big seller and I plan to cover the big sellers in the range even if they aren't sporty from now on so stay tuned 👍
T roc life 1.5 (73 plate) manual, gearbox ratios are all wrong can never find a suitable gear 3rd over revs 4th just labours on an incline , touch the throttle pedal all noise no go, it is a dreadful car wallowy handling, shite brakes and worst of all uncomfortable seats gave me bachache after 15 miles, this is a company car, I definately wouldn't buy one 😬
Taigo is better VFM and has a more aerodynamic shape so is more efficient but T Roc is more classless like a Golf, Taigo has a whiff of cheap about it (probably because it is!) but it’s not tangibly lower quality than T Roc generally (so go Taigo!j
@@volkswizard VW says its way worse quality and they advise t-roc to me. I really like t-roc design more taigo looks very small compared to t-roc. donno :(
The Volkswagen range is far to big. No wonder it’s an 18 month wait on a new car. Most of these are a polo/golf suv.
Spot on - I was surprised to find out the Taigo was an extra model, I'd assumed it was a replacement for the T-Cross
We just re leased with them and are on our second t roc as we loved our first and have gone up one model to the one before the R line and we re leased 4 days ago and get our new one in 7 days from today. Don't know where you're getting this wait of 18 months. We got lucky with our first one as we got in 2020 and had an unbelievable deal and got any colour we wanted at no extra cost because they had a batch load of VW cars stuck in Dover because of COVID and they needed to shift them. So £265 a month for a £32k car and now we refinanced for just just an extra £19 a month for a new model. As we are returning customers who never missed a payment and have kept the car in pristine condition. If we were new customers we would be looking at over £300 a month for the bottom line one. I guess it's depending on what dealership show room you go to and who you are dealing with. We used Helston VW and they're fantastic.
Not only do I struggle to differentiate "crossovers" from one manufacturer to another, I can't tell them apart from the same manufacturer either.
They changed the headlights on Taigo from T-Roc which must have cost them big bucks but end result is they look identical apart from bumper treatment.
I have been using my R-line Taigo now bit over a month. Gotta say it's just brilliant, love it. Comfy seats, big booth and bit agressive motor gearbox combination. Only minus I can say after my last car (2021 model Polo) that this Taigo is pretty thirsty for a gasoline on my driving style.
I test drove both and went for the T Roc. Unsurprisingly was like driving a jacked up Polo versus a Golf. Ride, noise, packaging and revised interior of TRoc way better IMO.
why not a dacia duster instead?
The vag group have gone a bit mad with SUV models. Seat, Skoda, Audi and VW have all got several in their range.
I don't mind them but I think I still prefer an estate, which often gives more room.
Agreed, Golf Estate won't be much more expensive than a Taigo with the same spec but it's just not as desirable to the average buyer, rational decisions like amount of space are often overlooked in favour of emotional influences.
I've had a 1ltr T-roc and and 1.5ltr T-roc and the difference was quite stark! The 1.5 had better economy but the lowly 1 ltr was FAR far far more nippy and comfortable - it was a far better car to drive. I originally thought I maybe had a bad car with the 1.5 but having tried a few I'd go for the 1ltr every time. But I'm also aware that the 1 ltr engine comes in several different stages of tune depending on the model so that might not translate across the range (the 1 ltr golf or polo felt gutless but the original t-roc had almost the same output as the 1.4 TSI, which was pretty good)
I've had a Golf 1.4 TSi. After that a manual up! TSi with a 1.0ltr. Nowadays I drive a Polo 1.0 TSi automatic. I gotta say that the most fun of the them all is the up!. Golf is too big and too polish and too "fancy" I'd say. The Polo is a nice balance between these other two
It's probably due to the fact, that the 1.0 liter car is almost 300 kilograms lighter!
1500 più scattante eveloce una bella differenza con il 1000
I don't think I could go back to a manual handbrake. Looks so clumsy. Great review.
I don't get that either. If it wouldn't had that I might could have been persuaded to buy the Taigo. I like the model, I nearly bought one... bought a used T-roc instead.
Thanks J! I drive both electric parking brake and normal handbrake on a regular basis and you get used to them - worse than a manual handbrake is a badly configured epb as some of the early ones were but the newer ones are hard to fault
It’s because the Taigo is based on the Polo which sits on the MQB A0 platform and due to cost and no doubt packaging constraints, they all receive a manual handbrake. Taigo has an identical Polo interior which not many notice
Very interesting as always, Andrew. This was very pertinent to my experience. I started to look at changing my 2018 Tiguan in February this year, but really wanted something a little smaller. I was most interested in the facelifted T-Roc having seen the magazine articles at the end of 2021. As soon as I walked into dealership, I was shown the Taigo which had just been delivered. It was an R-Line but I just didn't like the interior. The first thing that caught my eye was the manual handbrake. Then the horrible hard dashboard which looked the same as the T-Cross and reminded me of the original T-Roc (and that was one of the main reasons I decided against the T-Roc at that time. The other being the 1.0 engine as there were no 1.5's coming through at the time. Yes, it was nippy but so "buzzy"). Driving the Taigo brought back the same impressions. It was also in black and frankly in my opinion that didn't help its looks. I do like the green of this one that you drove however and it sets it off better in my opinion. I was not impressed with most of the colours available at time of ordering on the T-Roc. I thought the Kings Red was by far the nicest and went for that. The sales person agreed with me about the hard plastics in the Taigo and said that the dash in the revised T-Roc was much nicer which I'd thought on seeing the press releases. He did admit that there'd been a lot of criticism of the T-Roc plastics since launch. There was very little info available on the facelifted T-Roc but after driving a 1.0 litre Black edition that was available and mechanically identical to the forthcoming car, I thought it much more refined than the Taigo and the higher driving position suited my needs better. I don’t know whether there has been change to the Taigo dash since February but I certainly didn’t remember any softer plastics at the time and I was told it was the same as the T-Cross. I was able to place a provisional order at that stage for a T-Roc 1.0 Style. I had test driven several other cars (Honda, Toyota, Audi Q2 and Cupra). The 1.5 Formentor had been top of my list but I just couldn't get comfortable in it and the driving position was too low but the interior quality was at the level of Audis I'd previously driven. I drove the DSG 1.5 which was ok but I personally preferred the manual change. I then had a month until order books opened for the T-Roc. During that time, I kept thinking whether I'd made the right choice. On the day that the order book opened, I received links from the dealer to the online brochures and configurators. I ended up building 1.5 versions of the Style and R-Line with differing options. In the end I decided upon the R-Line mainly because of the body styling. I think the new front end of the T-Roc is a huge improvement over the original but there have not been enough changes at the rear on the Life and Style versions from the original and it still looks "dumpy and on stilts" in my eyes. In contrast the original R rear bumper styling was incorporated in the facelifted R-Line and looked much better to me. At the time I was told that delivery should be late May/early June. However, this came and went. The dealer kept me up to date regularly showing me the factory system build status. In June it changed to show that build had been completed and it was awaiting shipping. I was told that it would be a maximum of 6 weeks. Nevertheless, by the time August came, the status had still not changed. I then discovered that there were over 1700 UK T-Rocs parked in a site next to the docks in Setubal. Mine was one of them as was the whole dealership stock. Word on internet for this was that partially-built cars were being moved from the factory to await fitting of missing parts. The 10.2” screen was mentioned particularly but it seemed to be manual R-Lines that were in the majority. During this time, I kept my eyes peeled at vehicles on the road. There were plenty Taigos and the showroom had 3 or 4 in it when I went in a couple of times, however I saw maybe 3 or 4 22 reg T-Rocs, all bar one being Styles and that was a DSG convertible! I was rather surprised when you comment in the video that Taigos are rarer than T-Rocs as that has not been my experience in the North East. Taigos were available to buy from February onwards and I've seen quite a lot.There are still very few facelifted T-Rocs about at the moment and most are Styles. From online forum comments, I understand that the number of incomplete built VWs is still increasing and some have been waiting 7 months since order. Some options that were available at the time (Intelligent IQ lighting) have been removed but the advertising Brochure (as viewed last week) still infers the R-Line has head lights and light grilles which you can’t now order. Mine was eventually delivered in late September. I’ve now put 1,000 miles on it and I’m so glad I went for the 1.5 R-Line. I know the Tiguan is a brick aerodynamically but already the fuel economy is reaching 45mpg on the display which is about 6 mpg better than the Tiguan. I was interested in your observation about both cars having steering wheels with proper buttons on them. Mine has the haptic controls which I’ve found easier to use then I expected based on reviews. However, I did see an article last week reporting that the head of VW had said they were going back to buttons on steering wheels due to negative customer feedback about the haptic wheels. Alternatively maybe parts avaialbility has contributed to this well?
One criticism that I do have of the T-Roc interior is the rear door cards. These look the same as my friend’s 2020 T-Roc S, i.e., basic black hard plastic and do not match the front door cards. I think that is poor in a car costing ~£33k. Nevertheless, I like the car. It sits on the optional 18” wheels which I think give a good balance between the standard 17” which looks plain wrong and the ride on the ultra-low profiles of the 19” and the much higher probability of kerb damage. I’m certainly over the moon with the colour which really stands out and there were very positive comments when it had the ceramic coating and PPF professionally installed (“It makes a nice change to have a car in for work which isn’t black, white or grey and that really pops”)
Thanks for all that Rory B, it's always good to understand the buying process of real owners. I forgot to mention the rear door cards on the T Roc in that video but I think I did in the T Roc R video which is basically R line inside. I really wish VW would stop downgrading rear door cards as it's a very visible way of reminding owners that the accountants rule the roost.
It's interesting about the Taigo dash plastics, maybe R line is better than lesser models? I had a quick look around in a Taigo in a video earlier this year when I test drove WOB registered T-Roc in the UK and I made a point of saying dash was soft touch, that was an early RHD car on a 71 plate - weird.
Your T-Roc 1.5 TSI R line is a great package so enjoy it👍👍👍
Does the T Roc still have the manual handbrake? I'm looking at an R Line
@@WJC1981 No, it's electric
Me just now ordering t-Roc 2023 1.5 automatic Style version + other packages. cant wait! was considering taigo due to lower price but I think I made the right choice!
The dash of the Taigo is soft ( all trim levels)
So the T-Cross, Taigo and T-Roc are all fighting for the same target consumers while not having enough key differences to really set one apart from the other. In my view, this is a silly move by VW. Building 3 “different” cars which are virtually the same only helps raise manufacturing costs, which get passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
It’s called market saturation as an economic strategy
@@SF-rs3xm it’s certainly a strategy albeit hardly a smart one, given the high costs associated with developing and building different designs.
@@arlofsbut it barely costs them anything. They use the same platforms for VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Porsche, Lamborghini and even Bentley in some cases. It’s simply market differentiation which is made much cheaper by economies of scale. The Taigo shares everything with a Polo/ T Cross and the T Roc is basically a Golf MK7. Both of those platforms still underpin many cars from so many other brands including the Audi A1, Q2 and Q3 and even other cars in VW’s own range.
Sharing the basic Polo chassis with the T-Cross, the Taigo is a spacious, compact family car for those who don't like chunky looking SUVs. The better fuel economy thanks to superior aero says it all. One advantage the T-Roc has thanks to its Golf platform share is the option of 4WD, which some might need if they live out in the country. As for manual handbrakes, I prefer them to electric ones on manual cars for total control when parking between other cars on a slope!
actually electric handbrakes are better on a slope between cars cus you can simply let out the clutch and maybe give it a tiny bit of gas and the handbrake will automatically release so you can set off safely
Exactly the same as polo interior
Which one? Short answer for me: neither! Fair play to you though, that's an objective review - that's why I'd be hopeless at doing what you do, I'd struggle to leave my preconceived anti-SUV feelings behind - a good reviewer can rise above that, I guess.
I don't "get" the Taigo at all - it's clearly based on the Polo (judging by the dashboard) & is, really, just a high riding Polo to me.
I'd also assumed the Taigo was a replacement for the T-Cross, not an extra model. How many SUVs do VW actually NEED in their range anyway!
I also don't "get" why anyone would want a 2wd SUV (but plenty seem to) - I thought the whole point of SUVs was to go where a normal car couldn't go.
I absolutely detest light bars too (particularly the rear ones - hugely distracting if you're following someone on a twisty road at night) - it would actually put me off a car if it had them.
The handbrake is an interesting one - my Wife's just bought a 69 plate Audi A1 DSG Style edition (35 TFSi), roughly equivalent to the engine in that T-Roc. I actually quite like it (although it's maybe different with a manual), easy to leave the handbrake off if it's going to be lying for over a day. The electronic version on my Golf is good too, though (& definitely works better with a DSG).
Thanks as ever for your feedback Andrew. As you say, I've been unable to ignore the demand for SUVs and have to review them objectively because sales numbers are high and I hope this equates to viewing figures. It's weird but Taigo feels a lot more of a car than a Polo yet it's as you say a high riding Polo. I think manufacturers are exploiting this perception of added value from high riding cars and profit margins are a bit chunkier as a result which lets face it is what it's all about for them.
It's an interesting observation about rear light bars, I wonder if they reduce the response to brake lights from following drivers?
I'm also pleased the A1 has a manual parking brake as I took a flyer than all MQB A0 cars had one and if the 'premium' A1 has then they all probably do.
As for 2WD SUVs, they are cheaper to make, emit less Co2 & require less servicing so they are more affordable on PCP. I am sure the manufacturers did a vox pop of buyers and found AWD was a low priority (but om T Roc at least you get the choice). I am not sure if any MQB A0 car has AWD as it needs independent rear suspension, hence why we didn't get a new S1 :(
Well done Andrew another great review my t roc is also a 1.5 150 and I would agree with all you say it is lovely to sit up high but for driving dynamics I miss my golf which always put a smile on my face
The interior seems better on the latest t roc mine has been disappointing and have had pieces of trim fall off and generally feels a real downgrade from the golf
The Taigo does look a nice car and yours is the best review I’ve seen of it I love that lime green colour I think I would stay with the MQB cars to keep the electronic parking brake now but I do think it brings something to the range and was very impressed with the one I sat in when mine was in for service
Is there too much choice now Andrew in the range?
The Taigo looks like a 90’s sedan. It certainly doesn’t look like an SUV. The T Roc looks modern and fabulous, while the Taigo looks dated and stale.
There is something about the window line towards the rear that reminds me of the original Hyundai Pony from 1980s but other than I think Taigo is quite handsome but looks as ever are subjective, I'll be very interested if people will pay more for a T Roc
@@volkswizard - side window profile reminded me of the Ford Focus... I suppose the extra rear 3/4 window will improve visibility at junctions and when merging.
@@volkswizard In my country the base price difference between the (current) Taigo and T-roc is almost 4000 euro. I bought a T-roc mid-covid (1.TSI, manual) and it's a great car, but gun to my head now I'd pick the Taigo - it's Life spec includes more things than you possibly need and more things than my T-roc has. The driving dynamics are almost completely identical, although the T-roc probably has better aftermarket support (being based on the MK7 Golf).
Opposite
Drove a teigo rental in holiday pauper spec. Horrid little petrol engine and bouncy fat tyres mated to a dumb 5 speed manual that needed up down changes constantly. Don't whatever you do buy this engine or gearbox or fat tyres. Make sure you have lower profile tyres the 1.5 litre petrol and 6 speed manual (assuming there is one)
Nice review Andrew. Of these two, i would choose the Taigo, its appearance is less disagreeable But in reality neither. IMHO there are too many SUV's and crossovers and I agree with previous comment from 'TheShinyShow, it is now difficult to tell one from another., in the same way as it is the difference between a Beko and a Bosch washing machine It may be because of the U in SUV that i see them as Utility items. I for one would rather have a 'proper car' and not be a lemming.
I'm glad we agree on Taigo but we also agree on the 'neither; when speaking from a personal perspective. It's not a bad car though and for £30k is all the car a lot of people would ever need but how much is the same Polo? £5k less. Just checked and weirdly Polo R line doesn't come with the 1.5 TSI so 1.0 TSI 110 DSG and it's £29500 ish Taigo and £24500 ish Polo. I haven't checked specs but that seems a lot of cash for some more air in the wheel arches.
@@volkswizard ...a lot of cash for some more air in the wheel arches. You put it so well. Love it.
I think the Taigo looks a lot better, at last a decent Volkswagen design, about time.
Brilliant review , covering a lot of important information. The dash area on the two cars looked a lot more friendly than the golf . I think the new t-roc is better than the last model. It's a pity Vw did not develop have hybrid on their cars a big mistake I think
Thank you very much !!
Excellent tests !
I've driven a 1.5 Taigo. Great !
That Taigo is just a Polo on stilts. Literally the same interior.
I assume the T-Roc/Cross or whatever I guess is a Golf on stilts.
Basically yes a taigo is based around the polo and the t roc is based around the golf
The t cross is based on the polo
Good video, very thorough. I find the introduction of the Taigo puzzling tbh, even from a sales point of view, as you said it doesn't really offer anything unique.
I think while the T Roc was funky looking when it came out, it's quite conservative now and VW lack a really 'stylish' small SUV to rival unconventional and successful small SUV designs like the Nissan Juke amongst others.
i compare my skoda karoq sportline , 1.5tsi dsg with option travel assist pack and spare wheel £37000
now match the t roc which would compare with the r line 1.5 dsg , the spec is not even close to the skoda ,
matrix headlights standard , rear camera standard , full panaramic roof standard , wireless charging standard ,
19 inch wheels standard , easy toucyh access with electric tail gate standard , skoda comes with 3 year
breakdown cover , audi and vw only one year ..............
reliability skoda are higher than vw and audi , and to top it all off throw in a nice umbrella ..............
when looking at the troc r which is over 43k you get 16 inch wheels and have to pay extra for heated seats ?
am surprised they give you a steering wheel ?
T roc the other doesn't really appeal to me
Good cars but Skoda would be my choice no electric handbrake and manual heater controls much easier I’m my opinion
Both car's are very beautifull. But i prefer the VW Polo. There is not to long for the town and very well for the long drives in countryside.
I love my manual handbrake in the 2008 MkV GTI. Which is now 14 and 89,000 kms. A new GTI close to $69k down under. Wow. T Roc R close to $60k. Golf R. Salesman tells me $80k. If you can get one. The Taigo who knows if we will see it. I don't think Australia is high on Vw priority list. Could be wrong?. Looks like I will not be parting with my car.
If T Roc R is that cheap I'd have one over the Golfs, I like it a lot though new one seems a bit firm, OK if Aus roads are OK I guess.
@@volkswizard our roads in Victoria are potholes central. Our freeways if you can call them that are speed limited to either 80 or occasionally 100 km/h. They are in a terrible state. Even on my 17s the ride is very Rocky. Recent heavy rains on the whole east coast if Australia has ruined our whole food system roads and lives. The T Roc was all black. I like moonstone grey which I saw on the golf R line. Cheers Andrew.
Great! Thanks for the comparison Andrew! Always good to get a Volkswizard vid - cheers Jim
Thanks Jim, much appreciated. Back to the Friday release this week but that's going to be tricky next week and the week after but definitely at least one per week 👍
none of the above vw sucks now
Very good video Andrew. Im doubting between the Taigo R-line 110hp y el T-Roc Life 110hp. Both have a similar price..which of the two would you buy yourself? Thanks in advance.
It’s been a while but R line or Life for same price?! Has to be R line Taigo. I watched this video again recently and could not get over how Taigo beats T Roc, especially on efficiency, go for it👍
I get the impression that the Taigo is VW's attempt to use the (cheaper) Polo underpinnings for an SUV to see how it fares against the Golf-based T-Roc, using fancy styling as a ploy. If this is a success, then their ever- increasing cost cutting wins again. Seems like a race to the bottom amongst VW designers in recent years. My guess is the corporate culture has shifted massively in favour of prioritising cost-cutting over all else since the rather expensive diesel scandal.
T-Roc is MQB (not MQB A0 as Taigo) but both have torsion beam rear ends (at 150 PS at least) so apart from the handbrake being a keep fit version on Taigo I can't see or feel as a driver any other tangible difference so doubt a buyer would and Taigo is £2500 cheaper after all so I'm not sure it's a ploy as such but I do agree cost cutting has been rife since dieselgate though I was surprised to find Mk3 TT well before dieselgate and interior has clear been decontented with a definite styling ploy to distract buyers from this. New A3 interior is for me the worst post-dieselgate cost cutting exercsie and this applies to £70k RS3 as much as £25k entry level model where it's less of an issue.
@@volkswizard Good point on the torsion beam - I missed that somehow first time round. There is very little perceivable difference it seems. There is something very different about Volkswagen's philosophy now - far less conservative and far more "look at this" whilst hiding the things they've taken away. The new Skoda Octavia's interior is surprisingly plush... certainly more so than the Golf 8, so I have to confess to being a tad confused all round at what's going on.
Personally the styling of the Taigo doesn't appeal to me. I saw one yesterday and the rear instantly reminded me of an 80s Skoda Rapid. I admit, that might be just that it's etched in my brain from my grandparents having one in the 80s, but if anyone else wants to compare and tell me I'm not alone, I'd appreciate that! :)
@@thomasj5083 As the former owner of a Golf Plus (58 plate Mk 5 Golf Platform with IRS) and a Tiguan 4MO DSG (63 plate) I was wondering around the sales pitch at VW whilst a buddy was fetching parts from TPS... the 15 plate Tiguan R they had was familiar but couldn't for the life of me work out the model hierarchy between the T-Cross / T-Roc / Taigo at all... strangely enough I recently sat consuming a meal deal at a petrol station near work and witnessed a woman refuelling her Golf Plus Cross ('08 plate) thinking that the cross versions of the Polo and Golf Plus were ahead of their time, like the Scout versions of the Skodas... seems the market / popularity has finally caught up! Was thinking of trading my 66' plate Kia Venga next spring when the warranty is up but can't find anything in VAG that interests me...
Cross or T-roc? Reading the wrong mpg script....
Can you clarify? I’ve checked the data but there are contradictions in official publications. I’ve given Taigo mpg comparisons with T Cross and later with T Roc
@@volkswizard no at the end you kept talking about t-cros vs Taigo can't follow you tbh
Anyone with a DSG taigo.. can you clarify if the brakes hold when you are at a traffic light on the brakes and you move your foot to the accelerator? Or does the car roll back and the handbrake have to be used? I’m thinking of trading in my aging mk7 golf with an electronic handbrake and not sure I could go back to constantly using the handbrake (even though I do regularly drive another car with a manual handbrake). If the handbrake only needed to be applied when parked, I think I could be persuaded by this car
Just hold your break mate no?
Evet DSG taigom var ve dediğin şekilde bir sorun yaşamadım. Her şey olması gerektiği gibi.
Brakes hold you
I'm getting shrunken porsche macan vibes from the side profile of the taigo. I ordered a Taigo 1.0 life for the wife as a second car and it looks like there's a delay in the delivery due to the new car chip shortage.
It appears to be going all SUV i guess but the new Taigo looks better in my opinion and that Green is gorgeous. I'm a new subscriber and find your reviews very fair in comparison. Great Video!!
I like the green colour too - it does irritate me that VW (and they're certainly not the only manufacturer guilty of this) only tend to use the slightly unusual "funky" colours on their SUV type models. The Polo/Golf type cars always get the same old bland colours. It's a subliminal way of getting folk to spend more on an SUV than a "traditional" car (or maybe just paranoid 🤣).
The Taigo interior is awful. Cost cutting to the max.
It honestly doesn't feel like that inside, I expected it to be a notch down from new T Roc interior but perceived quality is largely equal aside from dash moulding which is just as soft as T Roc but extends further down. Carpets, seats etc are all about the same - rear door cards are also downgraded on T Roc and loose the contrast stitching. I was prepared to give it a kicking as T Roc as just about OK but if anything it's a touch better.
If it hasn't got a hand brake it's not on my radar , if it doesn't have real controls for the heater etc , it's a none starter......all this touch screen electrickery that takes your eyes away from the road is both stupid and dangerous.
You can get distracted by old skool user interfaces too, always remember someone on police camera action crashing into a parked car when trying to insert a cassette into the stereo! It's all about the driver to use their discretion, voice control makes life a lot easier and safer with modern cars. As for parking brake, if you've ever suffered when a car has rolled down a hill because a traditional handbrake has stopped working as the brake discs have cooled down (an inherent design flaw), you will appreciate the foolproof nature of the modern systems and most work seamlessly now
@@volkswizard...you're welcome to it.
Had a full licence for 45 years and never had an handbrake fail 🤣
Hi i have just ordered new Tiago R 1.5 DSG in visual green thanks for excellent review
Glad to be of service, that’s a great spec Taigo 👌
Taigo is so bland looking. Looks like an old Ford Focus/Astra during their ugly design era.
How can u compare such a beautiful car to a Ford
@@tdoteva4973 Tiago is such fugly car. T-Roc is slightly better but still just a square box. Bland.
Yes, Taigo vs T-Roc.
Now let me tell you the differences between Taigo and T-Cross 😂😂
The taigo is better equipped
I have been considering the T-Roc and the Taigo, the inside quality of materials is very disappointing, So I am favouring the Golf instead. The interior is much nicer and you can have DCC!
From a space viewpoint the rear boot space is smaller on the golf but I am sure the Golf rides much better on the road.
We looked and drove all three and chose the golf. It just seems a better car, less fussy and classless !!!
Probably what I'd go for, 1.5 TSI R line is a great all rounder
Expecting delivery of a VW TAIGO soon can't wait and looks like I made the best choice as could of had any of them looking forward to it woop woop
Traded in my 2 year old T Cross on a 22 year Taigo . Same 1.0 engine . Mainly for the style 😂
Style 🥲
😁
You can find a nicely priced used T-roc, but not a Taigo yet…
Give it time, UK now has stock of both so it's only a matter of time before supply exceeds demand
I just dont like the back of the taigo the long black light bar look is just horrible imo thats why im waiting for my troc too be built
Hi Andrew and thanks for another great review of two cool cars! 😊 If I can pick one I think I go with the Taigo. I am a little bit keen on that one! Does it come in nardo grey? And black alloys to that color.😊👍
Hi Bernt, glad you enjoyed it! I'm with you on Taigo just because it's different and it's not as inefficient as your typical jacked up SUV. Sadly no Nardo grey, there is a grey I think but if you want to make a statement it has to be Visual green - agreed regarding the wheels though there are some lovely diamond cut wheels on a green Taigo towards the end of the video 😍
Taigo and T-Cross prices are very similar. What would you buy and why ?
t-roc
@@mrfenix4111 why?
Thanks ..bravoYou were great in offering me greetings from Algeria

why description says t-roc if you talk about t-cross
Worthy but extremely dull vehicles for those that have no interest in driving. The automotive equivalents of a fridge freezer.
Take only T Roc R .... 300 horse power ,,,, it´s best choice
Hurray for Fridays! The Tiago seems not a bad effort imo if you are in the market for a stylish ‘coupe’ SUV although the manual handbrake and rear torsion beam would put me off . Does it point the way for the Golf replacement?
Glad to be back on Fridays as Sundays are not ideal for posting. I hope the Golf doesn't morph into any shape of SUV. It's all well and good companie selling whacky electric cars to people who want to convert to EV but don't have to. I'm afraid come 2030 I and I am sure a lot of other people will still want a Golf, albeit an electric one. Hopefully by then EVs will be sufficiently profitable for manufacturers to give us Golf size SUVs, with decent materials. After all, the Golf isn't the answer to every motorinh question for no reason and scrapping it like Ford has done with the Fiesta would be a totally short sighted move. Make it look like a Mk2 if they must but Golf must survive past 2030. SUVs are a short term fad anyway, efficiently (T Cross vs Taigo proves) will become paramount so lower cars will have to come back in fashion.
@@volkswizard Agree with a lot of that Andrew. I predict that cars will shrink in the next 20 years as material and tech enhancements allow smaller cars to be even safer. Brash is no longer cool amongst Gen X. Cities are changing too, with more of a focus on pedestrianisation and I think this will be reflected in car design.
For what it’s worth, Klaus Zyciora (Head of VW Group design) heavily values Golf and still considers it one of his favourite and most important models (over ID.3 interestingly). He has stated that the Golf nameplate must live on, whether petrol or electric. I see the future iterations of the ID.3 as being the mass market warrior and Golf going back its routes as being a small hatch (in-between Polo and current Golf size) at a slightly higher price-point to eat up 1 Series/A Class sales with mk1/2 design throwbacks. Golf is sacrosanct in Wolfsburg and anybody coming with ideas to completely destroy the model that has been that has single-handedly sustained the whole city and region for 50 years would be an extremely brave and short-sighted individual.
electric handbrakes suck ! cost more to service over the age of the car and just a pain in the ARRRRSS
There are downsides but main benefit is that cars no longer roll away down hills as it takes out user error and it also keep the pads tight when the discs cool down and contract.
@@volkswizard ahah, thats why my V60 I had back in 2012 used to eat rear breaks (every 16months), where as my 2016 subaru are still only just replaced after 8 years. That volvo was not cheap !
needs a type R option
Volkwizard please could you do a review of the Tiguan?
I'd love to, I've done Tiguan R already. I don't think it's easy to buy a Tiguan right now so VW UK didn't bring one to the driving day but it's a big seller and I plan to cover the big sellers in the range even if they aren't sporty from now on so stay tuned 👍
@@volkswizard Thanks, I'm looking forward to another great review. Keep all the vids coming, been a fan since your channels inception.
VW interiors are very very boring now when compared to other makes
T roc life 1.5 (73 plate) manual, gearbox ratios are all wrong can never find a suitable gear 3rd over revs 4th just labours on an incline , touch the throttle pedal all noise no go, it is a dreadful car wallowy handling, shite brakes and worst of all uncomfortable seats gave me bachache after 15 miles, this is a company car, I definately wouldn't buy one 😬
He keeps saying T-Cross. Is this not a T-ROC
The T-Cross is mentioned first as it's very closely related to Taigo, then I move onto the T-Roc.
You are just reading stats from a piece of paper supplied by VW. Can get that info from the website so not a real review.
The T roc just looks a little bit more interesting, The Taigo looks like a poor man’s Porsche Macan….
I think VW will take that comparison :)
Indeed and new Ford Puma looks like a shrunken Cayenne and has piqued my interest, and I have never even owned a Ford!
t-roc infinetely superior
t-roc 2023 or new taigo?
Taigo is better VFM and has a more aerodynamic shape so is more efficient but T Roc is more classless like a Golf, Taigo has a whiff of cheap about it (probably because it is!) but it’s not tangibly lower quality than T Roc generally (so go Taigo!j
@@volkswizard VW says its way worse quality and they advise t-roc to me. I really like t-roc design more taigo looks very small compared to t-roc. donno :(
Volksvagin 🤣
Check figures not million selĺer
Or get a Toyota
vastly overpriced and with rubbish problematic ridden infotainment systems