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THE BEST WEBER KETTLE ACCESSORY?2020/SPIDER-22 PELLET ADAPTER/SPIDER22 UNBOXING AND REVIEW/
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2020
- IN THIS VIDEO I DO AN UNBOXING AND REVIEW OF THE SPIDER-22 PELLET ADAPTER FOR THE 22.5 INCH WEBER KETTLE. THE SPIDER-22 HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE GREATEST WEBER KETTLE ACCESSORY OF ALL TIME. BEFORE SUCH AN ACCOLADE CAN BE BESTOWED UPON SUCH AN ACCESSORY FOR THE WEBER KETTLE, IT HAS TO GET THROUGH ME AND MY HARSH CRITICISM OF IT. CAN THIS PRODUCT LIVE UP TO MY STANDARDS? LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, SHARE.
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Glad you did this review and not me. I never go past 3 times of trying something and you went 8 times. In Spider's defense, they are getting a REAL review and not one of those PAID FOR infomercials that a lot of the BBQ channels do. They will make the changes and I am sure will improve the product. Great video like always and thanks for the shout out.
Learn to BBQ I literally couldn’t of done it without you. THANKYOU 🙏🏻!! It was actually much more than 8 if I count the first footage. I have faith that Spider is going to use this to improve there products. It doesn’t serve a company any good to have “Product Pushers”, tickle there ears. Not here. Performance wise, which is the most important part of a product review, this thing did outstanding. Very happy there. But man, getting this thing assembled and adjusted was a pain. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
This thing is awesome
Great concept Def digging the channel !
Interesting , nice review.
Smoking_Bears_ Thanks mane. I appreciate it
Nice review MH
Texas Style BBQ and Cuisine Thanks Chef. I do appreciate it
Performer, with the table
Devin Thomas I actually watch a video where a guy did a mod and got the spider under the table, it was quite impressive. Thanks for the support and watching.
If you look up pella introduction cook they show you how to set it up really easily
F**K**G Pj here’s the problem. Pella is Spider22, and Spider22 is Pella, Of course it’s going to appear simple and easy by the actual company. I’m a regular dude that got this product and I modified nothing to make it appear easier. This was my 2nd go around, I tried the way you speak of, however I scrapped that footage to go with this method which, on the surface , seemed easier. Neither way was simple, both ways were terrible. The cook I did on it however was a Freekin amazing experience.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW that makes sense and it really did look super easy in their video but after watching your video the first go around it looked like a nightmare. Didn’t know if you had seen to do it that way. Sucks it’s such a pain in the ass
F**K**G Pj I give this stuff raw, no skits, or preparation
It's to expensive. It's a nice attachment. Perfect Draft BBQ Blower Offset Smoker Draft Controller for a 100.00 was a better deal for me. It's temp control and burning efficiency for me. For a off set smoker. I guess what I'm saying is that it's a nice attachment for a Weber but when you have a Weber and an off set smoker you have to invest into the smoker over the Weber sometimes. Lol I've seen conversion kits to change off set smoker to pellet smoker. But I realized it's all about the air flow. Good product review though. Thanks man
rottvang NP. It’s a nice option for those who want the convenience of a pellet smoker, however the smoke flavor off an offset is superior to a pellet smoker. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
👍🎈😀
Mmm thick white pellet smoke... yummy...
Fish Tails With Tyler I just made a brisket and added a smoke tube to it as well.
The washers go on the outside. That's why the knobs are hard to turn
I’ve done it both ways. Washers have nothing to do with it turning. I spoke to the owner and confirmed with him. They are right. I thought the same thing and tried both ways, snd it doesn’t help. Thanks for the support and watching.
@@meatcranium4280 Man that's too bad. I really want to like this thing but after this video I'm not sure. I did watch your brisket video though and that looked pretty decent.
@@ShawnTylerF Here’s the thing. This was gen1. I’m sure that they have made improvements to it. I would use it more if it wasn’t so difficult to assemble.
Look how important those 2 missing washers are to this install.
Crazy thing is, is that they told me that it only needed the 2. Thanks for the support and commenting.
That trouble you had adjusting it is probablly why the drawing shows 4 washers instead of 2 so you aren't dragging against the paint.....? I agree though the assembly looks cumbersome. I have been keeping an eye on these since its an interesting option for the kettle. I am glad to finally see someone review them other than their own youtube channel. Awesome! Thank you for the honest review.
SNeal5966 I spoke with them and the need to update there instruction manual and show only 2 washers. They say that 4 is not needed. They will get it right, this is the first run. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
I think you needed the other two washers to make it slide easier.
Spider Grills must have listed to you. I got one for Christmas and the new Spider-22 has the 275° setting on the pid controller.
They did and that makes me happy. I hope they are easier to assemble now. Thanks for the support and watching
@@meatcranium4280 I'll let you know. I haven't tried to assemble it yet..
@@bryannall1981 good luck mine was a pain in the ass to adjust and align.
@@meatcranium4280 I didn't have any trouble at all but my weber is a master touch so maybe that made it easier
@@bryannall1981 good to hear. Sounds like they truly listened and took all my suggestions to heart. Thanks for letting me know.
I love your reviews. Always honest. Always real. Not sure if I would buy it.... But the video was great. This is what RUclips needs more of. Maybe a few tweeks.... I dont know.... But this was a great video. You always put out real amazing stuff that people can trust. Nice job.
JOSH THE COOKING COP Thanks Josh. It’s weird seeing you Solo. I think this product will be huge, they need to finely tune the the problems highlighted here. What makes me wonder is how did the other ones make it look so simple. Either they were disingenuous with there video, or I got the one model that was difficult. Lol. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Cool idea but I feel like the weber kettle is already super easy to hold and maintain temps without all the fancy gadgets. I guess this appeals to the person that just cant leave good enough alone. Btw, i saw ur sns review and liked the honesty and but didnt subscribe, after seeing ur honest criticisms on this one, i’m a subscriber...
Jaime Jimenez Sweet man thanks. I pisssd a lot of people off with my SNS videos. LOL. This is for people that hsve an existing Weber kettle and don’t have time to babysit a pit. Spider22 definitely hit on a market. I’m making a Jamaican Jerk Pork shoulder today on the Weber kettle using charcoal and wood, and smoking ultra low n slow at 200 degrees. I’m using a PID Controller cause we are going to be gone all day. I agree that the Weber kettle is super efficient, however I don’t know anyone who can go 14 hours and not adjust the vent at all and keep perfect temps. I’ve tried, the longest I’ve gone and stayed in a 15 degree range is almost 3 hours, still very impressive, however I didn’t want to get to far from home. Anyhow, thanks for the support and watching Brother.
I would have thrown the bag of pellets or two in the kettle so you had weight to push up against when you lifted the Spider unit and keeping your foot on the bottom portion of that foot . Tighten those knobs , done.
Work smarter, not harder .
Looking at possibly getting one just for efficiency, I can smoke a tri-tip or brisket easily now on mine but would like more control and less baby sitting.
Thank You for the honesty bro. Much Appreciated.
Your welcome. Tickling ears helps no one. Thanks for the support and watching.
I could live with the Dial thermometer if (like you said) it was A minimum of 25 degree implements. It looks like they have a very clever design there. The smartest thing they did was make it where you don’t have to cut a hole in your kettle. If they get it where you can attach it and unattached in five seconds, I may be onto something there. Thx for that review.
I don't know about five seconds, but five minutes would be doable if the heat inlet tube were longer; with a flange attached inside the kettle - this solves the setup PITA and the problem of the unit accidently coming uncoupled from the kettle during use. That should be worth a free unit, don't you think, Justin?
handcannon considering that would probably be the difference between this product being a success or failure I say yes. If that advice is the difference between it hanging easily, They should definitely send you one.lol
I understand that they want to be able to adjust they height, and hopefully they will read this comment section and right down these suggestions. Handcannon I think you are spot on with that assessment. Justin they should send you one as well, you do really good reviews as well. Thanks for the support and watching fellas.
Interesting concept, great honest first look/ review, looking foward to the first cook, thanks for sharing!
Behind the Garage BBQ First cook came out on Saturday and it was great. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Saw this pellet smoker attachment back in December. Definitely going to be following your tests with this as it looks like it could be a great attachment
Brew & Q with Chuck I am currently making a 15lb Brisket Ultra Low n Slow to test this out. So far, so good, they have some improvements that they need to address. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Nice, I love my Kettle, great idea. Look forward to next weeks cook. Also glad to see, I'm not the only one who occasionally has a rough time doing something, that should be so easy.
Smokehouse BBQ If anyone is going to get the “Difficult One”, it’s me. Lol. The cook it going great so far. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Pretty interesting attachment. I guess I'm a simple man, but I would just by a pellet smoker. I like my kettle attachments like slow and sear, vortex, other charcoal friendly attachments but idk about a pellet box. Especially seeing that the retail is around $280 why not just buy a smoker? I have a traeger and webber kettle...gotta have both.
Agreed, everyone really needs a griddle a pellet smoker and a weber kettle. Seems like that attachment is making the kettle into a multi tool. Can do a bunch but not well.
I was wondering about that pellet burner accessory for the Weber Kettle. Nice review! Can't wait to see the cook!
Tom Horsman So far I’m making a Brisket super low n slow at 200 degrees. I’m 2 1/2 in and it’s holding 200 like a champ. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW Nice!
Tom Horsman Tom this seems like your sort of accessory.
Big Lew BBQ You know what, your right. I wonder if the digital display company that Tom deals with would have a panel for this. I made a Brisket in it yesterday and I was sure wanting that 275, so I had to settle for 300.
Big Lew BBQ You are correct! I sent them an email last night, hopefully they respond..
Great vid. I had the EXACT same problems you showed while trying to install the unit on my own Original 22. Previous online forum posts stated a bit of a learning curve with the unit. All of them are true. Lining up the 3 tabs on each side was not an easy initial task. The bottom bowl was not the quick install as shown in some previous videos. My final solution: I ended up removing the steel set screws and taking the upper hook plate (which rests on the bottom bowl lip) completely off. Then I inserted the burner through the vent hole and reinstalled the bottom bowl lip hooks and set screws. On the initial run, I couldn’t get it up to temp and had error messages caused by forgetting to insert the probe. Eventually got it to work after I fiddled with the ash pot and even pulled the grip tape off. Since then, I’ve had many successful cooks and watched a ton of pellet smoker vids by your fellow YT posters below for insight. At the end of the day, I actually do like the Spider Grills product. Thank you for posting the video.
Glad to help. I was getting near to slamming this thing on the ground then giving it the Peoples elbow, but I calmed down, collected my thoughts and got it done. It gets my goat when someone does a schmoozy type review and everything goes perfectly. I want people to see what can potentially happen to them so they are not caught off guard. Those are some good tips. Thanks for the support and watching.
Thanks for replying, bruddah MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW. Like so many others who’ve viewed the honest review, I also felt your frustrations. The reality is that once installed, it truly does serve its purpose as a pellet adapter by providing those easy-bake oven features on easy to find NIB or second-hand kettles. No babysitting. That practicality makes sense for the person who also wants to switch back to charcoal and wood taste on their kettle. In my case, I have forgone the base attachment and went with the Paul G channel mod by hanging it on a spare 22 OTP cart. Glad to read you were able to make an enjoyable brisket with the unit and that it was holding temp. Please keep up the good work, as always.
strunk76 Thanks Mane. Stay Hungry my friend.
I ended up getting the latest generation and thankfully they added the 275 setting. I also had no problem setting it up so hopefully it's because they fixed that issue not just that I got lucky. Keep up the good work.
That is great to hear. I like when companies take my criticisms and instructions, then execute and improve. I can work with people a companies like that. Thanks for the support and watching
finally!!! i wanted to see someone else besides spider grills doing a review. i'm planning on getting one soon.
Brown 66 I have a Brisket video coming out next Saturday and this thing performed great. Thanks for the support and watching.
Ordered mine on Saturday. Should be here Wednesday or Thursday. I'll try to do a review on it as well. Thanks for the review, bro!
you are suppsed to set the height of the spider 1 inch lower than your grill and loosen the top clips so that they make up the adjustment. you don't loosen the height adjustment once you have it set. you are making it harder on yourself than you need to. I set mine up and had 0 issues with putting it on my weber.
Shute I did that the first time. I measured and everything. I seen this method and went with this one. Both were horrible. Thanks for the support and watching
@@meatcranium4280 that makes sense, when I read what I wrote it reads kind of harsh. I was just trying to offer some advice. Keep doing your thing, you have a great channel.
Shute I didn’t take it any way other than advice. This is what I hate about text. Lol
Oooo can't wait for next Saturday!!
Yochum 294 I’ve got the brisket on now. 6 hours in and it’s going well. This is another get option for those who want Q and not enough time to babysit. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
This would be an awesome accessory to have for a Weber Kettle. I greatly enjoy your reviews of products and hopefully the manufacturer will work out some of the kinks in future models. I certainly would like to have a pellet smoker in my arsenal.
KIRBBQ this is a nice alternative. The company Spider 22 wants to improve and they didn’t want a,”ticking of the ear”, review, that’s why I was one of the first to get one. I am currently making a brisket on it and it’s maintaining temps great. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
That’s awesome!! Never even heard of that!
MrBigKid They are really new. Since December. A lot of good potential. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
I think I have the solution to the setup PITA and the heat delivery issue. Chris, you should tell the company to send me one for free. The solution shouldn't cost more than a couple bucks. Make the heat inlet tube longer and attach a flange over it inside the grill. This could either be via screws through it (preferred), or set screws. The kettle would no longer fall off the unit when adjusting height, nor would the heat inlet get accidentally knocked free of the kettle during use. You're welcome, SPIDER-22. Please contact me to find out where to send my free unit. Have a great week, Chris.
handcannon That sounds like a winner to me. Lol.
Cost of Weber grill plus cost of pellet adapter equals go buy a purpose made pellet grill that will last longer.
BTW a pellet grill is an electrically operated wood fired outdoor oven
If you buy a cheap basic Weber kettle you can get one for $65-$75 on EBay or on sale if you look. I had 3 and didn’t pay over $70 for each. To get a great quality pellet smoker like a Camp Chef , (which is on the lower end of the price scale) will set you back $700-$800, no where’s close to the Price of the Spider22. Here is something else to consider, the Weber Kettle works independently of the Spider22, so you can still use Charcoal and Wood, with a pellet smoker you cannot use real Charcoal briquettes and wood. So you have to assess them separately and independently of each other cause some people have had there Weber’s for decades. Spider22 is exactly what it is, an adapter. Now I will agree with your assessment of a pellet grill being an electrically operated wood oven fired outdoor oven, then you must consider a stick burner a air powered wood fired outdoor oven. A Oven is defined as: 1)a small furnace or kiln, 2) An enclosed compartment, as in a kitchen range, for cooking and heat food. Since I cook 95% of everything outside, that is considered my kitchen, so anytime I put a piece of meat in a stick Burner, Pellet smoker, drum smoker, or The Charbroil Big Easy I guess I’m using it as an oven. Thanks for the support and commenting.
@@meatcranium4280 website shows $279 and around here used Weber grills are rare curbside rustouts new $110 no frills . Pit Boss Lexington is near $350. Got one, hate it. Electric wood burning outdoor oven IMO. So far it's been kettle, torpedo, offset, electric cabinet, gravity fed, pellet grill and a barrel. Still learning the Bronco but offset and electric cabinet are favorites so far.
@@poser8587 Pit Boss and Z Grills are a cheap entry level pellet smoker. I have a Camp Chef and it’s awesome. My Bronco is out of worldly awesome. Electrical or not they are all considered an oven
All that trouble with the knobs because you had the 2 washers missing? Maybe the washers make it slide smoothly.
Josef I did an update video. They said all you need is 2 washers. Crazy I know. I ended up bending the tab. Thanks for the support and watching
I appreciate your honest review bud! I was confused and pissed off with you at different points of the video. Seems like a prototype and I'm sure improvements will be made if they take your advice. Seems like a really cool idea for someone who wants this type of product. I've seen some of the small Pit Boss Pellet Smokers in this price range and even a little less so I guess it's up to what the pitmaster wants. Look forward to the cook this weekend bud! Take care down there!!
BBQ PIT DOG Rob, so far so good. I have a brisket on Super low n slow right now(200 degrees). 6 1/2 hours in and no issues. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
@@meatcranium4280 That's awesome Chris!! Looking forward to the brisket video!!! Take care bud!!
Really cool idea for a kettle accessory. I’ll be lookin forward to the cook video. Have a good one 👍
Cookout Coach The cook went great. I will post next Saturday. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
RecTec is coming out in February or March with a new updated bullseye ......has a new Pid controller with temp probe that maintains temp, $399 shipped for preorder...by the time you buy the spider and a 22 Weber you have about the same money into it and you get a proven state of the art controller ...with a company well known for its customer service which is second to none ....worth checking out 👍
Louis Webb Nice to know. Thanks for the heads up. I would like to check that out too. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Good review Meathead .. can’t wait for the review next week but damn 8 try’s and the damn wheels are in the air.. might be thinking of getting one but got see how your review next week comes out
Chillin & Grillin With Rob D Patience is a virtue I do not have.it ended up getting it corrected, and the cook is going amazing. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Awesome toy and review brotha... Looking forward on the cook video... Looks cool already👍👍
Luis Palomo Cook is going good, I have been Gone pretty much the entire time an it’s maintaining very good. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
279??? That's outstanding!
Enter User Name Here. Yeah I think it’s priced right. Thanks for the support and watching.
I love my Webers! I have been staying away from getting a pellet smoker, but this product is interesting, specially since I could still be using a Weber Kettle. Got to love being able to see how to videos to help you out. A 2 person job! 8 times the charm! Good luck to Spider Grills! Your neighbors are moving out! I like it at 225!
I re-recorded the assembly section, cause my first go around was even worse. They are taking notes and they will improve
Oh now that's a pretty interesting accessory!! 🤔 Really looking forward to the cook next weekend!
Barlow BBQ Cook is done brother. I just need to edit and do my MEATY thing to it. Lol. This Spider 22 performed very good. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
Seems like a cool idea. It be cooler if the make one for the 26
Jonathan Hicks They are a very new company and this is there 1st model. I’m sure they have a Spider 26 in the mix for the future. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
That’s pretty neat - be cool if they would change up the dial settings so you can set it right where you want it.
Louis at R shack BBQ Totally agree. I love bbq’ing at 275. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
Welcome back brother..... still watching.
Great TO be Back I my wheelhouse
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great looking thing. But I don't understand the comparison of a temp controller like the flame boss and this thing. Can you explain that?
Furtheron, I'm searching for it's bigger brother: I mean to convert a regular kettle into a fully automatic (like a pellet grill is) stick burner. Any Idea if this exists or if it exists in another form but could also be combined with a grill?
PS: you should have gone to there website. There is an animation of the best way to attach it to your grill
Erik Plugge I’ve seen there videos and it didn’t translate to this unit. I did that comparison, because if you want set and forget then you can get a flame boss of BBQ GURU which is more expensive of around the same price as this which is set and forget as well. I think that’s everything. Lol. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
@@meatcranium4280 so, do you have a clue if anything like a "stick hopper" exists?
Erik Plugge Ah!! I knew I missed a question. Lol. I know they exist, however I can not think of the maker. Lang and Yoder come to mind, don’t quote me though, they are vertically fed stick burner. I think Heavy Metal Bbq has one.
@@meatcranium4280 well, Yoder has some big pellet smokers as far as I know and I just went to the Lang website and they have huge stickburners. But I can't find a stik feeder yet.
If you find out the brand that builds those barbecues, plz let me know.
i am looking forward to what this bad boy can do. I mean, if this sucker works, its a game changer!!!! IMHO.
I think so. They have some tweaking to do.
Very good video. I have a weber Kettle and they are great.I have the rotisserie attachment and I think the Webers are the best. I have a Traeger pellet grill also and I am not that fond of it. The Pit Barrel Cooker is the best in my opinion. Keep up the great reviews!!
Bill Siebel I love my Camp chef Pellet smoker, kettle, and my OKJ BRONCO. Good stuff. Thanks for the support and watching.
Just when I've assembled some money to drop on a pellet smoker, you make a video of a pellet smoker that drops during assembly!
Charles Mallory Bro!! I was so pissed, however I got passed it and I am smoking a Brisket right now. 10 hours in and it is holding like a champ. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
I was rooting for you bro. I wished I had of been there to see how many words slipped out. LOL!! Pretty cool concept. Look forward to seeing how well it performs.
THEREALSHOWBBQ I ain’t gonna lie. My Christian values went out the window. Lol. I was over the moon frustrated, however the cook went awesome. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
pretty cool. If this works may have to get a weber kettle. we'll see😎👍
Steve Litteral it’s working great now. I’m 10 hours into a brisket cook. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
@@meatcranium4280 hope you filmed it
Steve Litteral absolutely
MC you had WAY more patience than I would have, maybe get some nylon or graphite washers for the inner. Or maybe open the grooves a bit w/ a router.
Rhinotec I think that is what needs to happen. I had to use both hands to turn these nuts, also they told me it should only be 2 washers. 🤔. I think not. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Looks like a nifty little gadget, Flobroski. If the company does a few tweaks could take off well. I can't wait to watch the cook and see how it performs.
It’s performing great during this cook. I’ve gone 11 plus hours so far on a brisket. Thanks for the support and watching NEBROSKI.
@@meatcranium4280 excellent!
I absolutely hate building crap like this out of the box. It never works as intended. I feel your pain while building it but I also laughed my ass off the whole time. I think this is a great idea for a product and honestly for such a young company it’s not a bad first try at all. It’s already way better then that offset you reviewed with the door that slid out of the brackets every time you open it 🤣
Seriously though I would consider buying this for my kettle. If anything is start a brisket on the stick burner for a few hours then throw it on the kettle with this bad boy over night to finish. I’m interested in learning more and seeing your cool video.
Thanks for doing what you do 👍
ECUDaniel14 Thanks Bro. I have a Brisket video on this coming out Saturday. I have never cooked on that Titan Reverse flow smoker ever again. I need to get rid of it out of my garage. What a piece of crap. Lol. Thanks for reminding me again.lol
Your setup mirrored my own, as the Brits say, it's a bit fiddly. But it works extremely well. I'd say the hinged cooking grate is the greatest accessory of all time, but the spider-22 pellet adapter is extremely close. Thumbs up for an honest, realistic review. Sub'd as well.
Bbq guru has multiple models ranging from $150 to $300. I have the cheapest one in my kettle 26 and I'm very happy with it. I hope these guys take your suggestions and improve it,this has the potential to be successful. Also 275 is money for getting ribs and others meats thru the stall
No 275 really bugs me, especially for Brisket like I’m doing now. They will make improvements I’m sure of it. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
Every time the bass drops, I get vision flashes of the weber kettle and pellet smoker dropping too. Please make assembly easier Spider!
Charles Mallory This is the first run. I have faith that they will make the necessary corrections. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
Do you think it was hard to slide up and down because you didn't have a washer on both sides of the housing?
Tyler Tomczak Nope. I asked them about that and they said only 2 is required. It’s just hard to do. I use a pair of channel locks to turn on of them. Thanks for the support and watching
I will be interested to see how it works during a cook.
Worked great
That was brutal. I wanted to reach through the screen a dump that thing in the trash. Hope it all works out in the end. I currently have two of the 22 inch Weber grills and if this thing does work I will seriously consider getting one. Good luck to us all.
Well!! I just used it for a brisket and it came out amazing. I used 2 different temps over a 14 hour timeframe and I never had to refill the pellets. Super impressive. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Hmmmm...........I knew it would be a matter of time before a company tried to do exactly this. I would be much happier if Weber were the one to do it.........maybe it would
be more user friendly when it came to the installation. WTF was that! I give you credit......I would have smashed it! It looks to be a little cheap when it comes to the heat defector/drip pan. That thing is gonna warp, twist, buckle and smoke like crazy when you get dripping down on it. Especially right over where that funneled burn pot is located.
You mentioned the temp adjustment.........that is gonna be a big problem with major high and low temp swings. They should have went with a P.I.D. controller. That would help
keep temps manageable.
I'm not knocking the idea or this companies first attempt at it..........but it's gonna need some major tweaks!
Stupid Weber.........they're missing the boat! That's funny that Wiley set You up with them.............Wiley is on top of this kind of stuff. Wiley is the first person I saw using the
Bullseye! And the rest is YT history!
You're gonna have some fun.........Pellet On! 🔥
Heavy Metal Bar-B-Que I LOVE IT, PELLET ON!! Lol, that’s great. Yeah they definitely need to tweak it. I made s as Brisket yesterday and I was wanting my 275 setting. The unit actually maintained temps great for the 14 hours I ran it. 91/2hours at 200, then 41/2hours at 300. I was gone they majority of the cook and I never filled the hopper with pellets. That assembly really pissed me off though. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Looks like a good idea. Where’s the jumbo joe attachment👀
Samuel olivero You should be able to use it with 22.5 Jumbo Joe. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
I’ve seen this thing and was very interested. Looks like it needs some work before investing in one. Let’s see how it cooks. Cheers Meat
I just finished a Brisket cook with it 9 1/2 hours at 200, 4 1/2 hrs at 300. It performed awesome. The Brisket was great and I had the freedom to get all the things done that I wanted to do. I have faith that they will make the necessary corrections to improve it. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Would or can you take the legs off and let the spider be your stand?
Jim Helgerson I would say no. It wouldn’t be safe. It soybean lopsided weight wise and could tip over. Now, If they widen the base it could be possible. Thanks for the support and watching
Do you reckon the struggle you had lowering it with the grill on it so that the kettle sits on the ground was due to the fact that your missing two washers? Seems to me, as a viewer, that it would have lowered and adjusted easier if you had two washers on each side?
Any way it is a nice concept and contraption for those that are untested in it.
To be honest, I would rather have what you call a “Merlin” . It is cheaper, and charcoal is cheaper than pellets. You don’t have to plug it in and it is quieter than a pellet pooper.
You need to go to the hardware store and pick up two extra washers and see if you can install it easier.
Good honest review as always.
Big Lew BBQ I had them get back with me about the washer thing and they said that they only give 2 now, something about there tech guys saying it doesn’t need 4, so they need to update there Instruction manual. Merlin is still bulky and limits cooking space, limits you a cook time, and it needs to be babysat. I went 14 hours on my brisket cook yesterday 200 for 91/2 hours and 300 for 41/2 hours, and I was gone the majority of the time. The first generation of Merlin (the one I have) is the best one, the screen on the bottom gathers ash and chokes the fire, leading to erratic temps. The best combo in my opinion for charcoal is the grill stone with foil wrapped around the edges, and a TIPTOPTEMP. Wow!! This was long winded. You always get me going with the Merlin thing. Lol. I think you know that. Lol. Anyhow, thanks for the support and watching Brother.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW Grill Stone is good too. But also needs frequent refueling unless using the snake method.
About the washers it seemed difficult with only two (one each side). Seems trying two more wouldn’t hurt. It might improve the operation can’t make it worse.
I’m ‘bout to cook a brisket it’s ready to go on now then I’m going to church. Have a good day.
Lol your the only review I have seen on this that had a hard time setting it up.
It’s my luck. Either they sugar coated the review or I got one that was made wrong. I think it was the first one. Thanks for the support and watching
Jesus dude they’d probably pay you delete this hole video.
Ian Burnham It does them no good if I delete. If they see where they need to improve, them the consumer gets a better product.whats wrong is the people that do reviews and gloss over the problems.
Everybody else probably edited out the part where they had trouble
jamesyers1975 or practiced ahead of time, and prepped the unit with oil, or maybe I happened to get the one and only unit that was difficult. Lol. Thanks for the support and watching,
Awesome review can’t wait to next weekend see what you cook. Keep Smoking T&T BBQ
I made a Brisket Super Low N Slow, then cranked up the temps. Thanks for the support and watching
how long did it take the spider 22 to come up to temperature?
Toby's GoPro 10-15 minutes. Not long at all. Thanks for the support and watching.
Man how to Lou really made it look easy. Looks like he didn’t use any washers. Maybe that’s why it was binding up trying slide it up and down. Kinda made you look bad 😂 can’t wait to see the cook
T H81 He practiced ahead of time. I had no practice, it was pretty raw footage. He said in his video that he finds this to be the easier way.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW I know just busting your balls. You put in all the issues you had. He didn’t.
T H81 It’s the way a Review should be.
I'm considering getting getting a Weber Master Touch and I'm wondering how the spider-22 would work with the ash catcher bowl.
Bryan Nall It would work fine. You would need to remove the ash clean out bucket, then maneuver the Kettle over this, and have patience. Lol. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
Hi Chris, Would it have helped to add weight (a cement block) to the grill when mounting the Spider? The added weight would keep it from tipping then you could have DROPPED the attachments bottom half to the ground. As the saying goes, If you can't move the mountain...Bruce
TIPTOPTEMP I don’t think anything would help. The added weight probably would have damaged it. IMHO. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
I try not to concern myself so much with assembly. I just went thorough an assembly on a smoker that was a huge pain in the ass. I was cussin' like crazy about the assembly. I did, however, respect the product enough to take the time to make sure I didn't scratch it up by banging it around on concrete work surface. I understand that you weren't paid for a review but you obviously don't have any skin in the game based on how you treated the product during assembly.
Man Cave Meals that’s why I said to lay down a piece of cardboard. I was ready for it to be over. I have cooked with it twice since then and it performed great.
Hey Chris, this looks like a pretty nice product i must say. unfortunately not availbale in europe, but i will contact them and see if i have to sell my kidney to get hold of one. The alternative would be to get a traeger ranger here unless i was to spend in excess of 1000 dollars for a bigger cooker :/
Watched the brisket cook as well - it really performed nicely
Lasse's Food and Barbecue LARS!! Holy Cow!! SWEEDBRO!! Good to hear from ya. This thing is pretty dang cool, unfortunately the assembly and setting up is not cool. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
It would definitely have helped your assembly process if you had read the directions first. It's not complicated at all.
Mark Rose ERRRRRR!! I did. That was the direction. Put unit in stand, put bolts in the side. Don’t compare rehearsed assembly videos, to real life unfiltered experience.
@@meatcranium4280 Sorry. I don't recall anywhere in your video, you measuring your kettle height and setting the spider at 1"shorter. I could be mistaken, but a don't recall even seeing a tape measure in your video. The screws in the sides were absolutely a pain in the rear to turn, but the height adjustment was a piece of cake.
Mark Rose I re-filmed the part of getting it together. I showed the measuring tape part and spoke about it. I may have cut it out in final editing, but I thought it was there. I did it there way and tried it this way, neither was easy.
Based on what I saw I think I’ll wait and see if they make the improvements you suggest.
One question I have...is it easy to switch out the pellets, for instance if you wanted switch from hickory to mesquite from one cook to the next?
Good question!
Greenid Guy I haven’t seen a way how to do that other than picking up the unit and tipping it over, of scooping the out and let the auger push the rest out. Thanks for the support and question.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW Hey thanks for the answer and hopefully they will watch your review and read the comments posted.
Did you have to cut off the handle of the grill to get the spider on?
Sillery343 No. it goes on the other side. No Modifications required. I have a brisket video coming out at 10:30 EST, you’ll see. I’m doing a premier, join in if you can. Thanks for the support and watching.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW unfortunately my Weber has handles on both sides so I’ll probably look for one without a handle. Just watched the brisket video awesome job!
@@sillery3439 the Spider-22 will fit a grill with 2 handles with no modifications required. The unit just won't go between the wheels...it will go between two of the other legs. We did a ton of our testing with a 2 handle Weber.
Info Spider_Grills thanks I’m very interested in getting one just wanted to make sure I can actually use it on my Weber.
@@sillery3439 no problem. Don't hesitate to reach out to us if you have anymore questions. info@spidergrills.com
At $300... might as well just upgrade to a 18" WSM, and not deal with all that hassle. BTW... if it's electric auger and heating element, I doubt it'll survive many winters outside since it'll still get wet/moist and eventually rust.
fialee8 Good point. I would keep it inside regardless, it’s small enough to tuck away in a corner. I used it yesterday and it seems to be very well constructed, and durable. Before I would store it for winter I would dump all the pellets out of it. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
fialee8 I don’t store any of my grills in the weather and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone, we all have too much money invested in the to do so.
Great review and Creative concept However, I am left wondering what the point is for this product. Will it produce better tasting food or just give kettle users another toy? That said, I’m looking forward to seeing how your cook turns out. Blessings! Matt
It would, if it worked as advertised, produce more convenient food by controlling the temp for you and eliminating the need to refuel during the cook. I don't think it could touch charcoal/smoke wood for flavor; I'd be pleased if it did 80% as well in that regard.
handcannon great point!
Handcannon always has great points. I have a smoke tube in there to add more smokiness, but this unit and similar products are perfect for time crunched people that still want great tasting Q. It’s at a great price point and you can still use your kettle. I love the concept. Is it necessary? No. Is it cool? O YEAH!! Is it a Gadget/accessory? Yup. Is it the best one I’ve seen? Maybe, jury is still out. Thanks for the support and watching Brothers
How do the pellets ignite ???
Brian Conner There’s a fire striker in the fire pot that ignited the pellets. Thanks for the support and watching
@@meatcranium4280 Thanks for answering me.
Brian Conner Np. My Pleasure
Your smoking at 275?
Guy Brown Absolutely!! Especially Brisket. 275 is the perfect temp, not to hot for hot n fast, not low enough for low in slow. Thanks for the support and watching.
If you was my salesman I'd fire yer ass!. Would I like to set up a smoker another grill with you with beers..Hell yeah
WHAT!!! Lol. I have no clue as to what you just typed. I’m definitely not a salesman. I’m more or less an antisalesman. I believe in tell the truth, and ask Forgiveness later.
Pit Boss doesnt have 275 on their knob based pellet smokers either. What was your kettle temp reading?
Alphamale 210 it was reading 10 degrees below and 10 degrees over the target temp. Yeah 275 is one of my favorite temps to cook at.
Where is the fire box located and how does the heat come into the kettle? Does this only work with the Weber original or can it work with the premium version that has the improved ash collection system ?
Brian Boing the fire pot sticks through one of the slits I the bottom of the kettle, and yes it works with the premium, you just need to remove the ash collector. I talk and cover all this in the video.
Go to How to Lou web site for a simple explanation of the product. Sorry Meat but you were struggling. Also why bother when you can buy a cheap pellet grill at Sams’ Club for about the same money?
I posted how to Lou’s channel down below in the description. I don’t know if he did something different or Prepped it prior to filming but I tried to replicate the same thing and it wasn’t fun as you seen. I give it raw, and unrehearsed, it is what it is, maybe his model was the proper size and everything fit perfect. This model was horrible, however I just smoked a brisket and it came out awesome and it performed very good. These models are for the people out there that already have an existing kettle and want to have an option of a pellet smoker, and at $280 that’s a great price point. Thanks for the support and watching
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW I guess what I was thinking my nephew bought a Signature or whatever Sams brand is for $325 dollars. Basically the same cost. I’m sure I am stubborn but I think part of the satisfaction of grilling or smoking is managing the cook. To me, pellet grills are basically ovens. You have the same effect with a electric cabinet smoker for less money. All respect to you, you have great cooking skills, but for me this is a no go
Steve Hilliard It’s for some and not for others brother, it’s all good in my eyes.
Will this attach to a Weber Kettle 22 in premium?
It attaches to all 22 inch except the one that’s built in table. Thanks for the support and watching.
Ash can goes the other way brother
The ash can goes in one way, if you mean the drip channel I fixed and will show in the cook video. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW does it matter which way it goes? It seemed like it was meant to catch on the deeper end since the pins can go either way
Jules it goes on the shallow end up. I questioned it to. That’s also the cup that the pellets burn in as well.
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW that’s strange lol do they not produce alot of ash?
They’re finally back in stock. Do you still recommend buying one?
Yes. Just so you know mine was a pain in the ass to put together. A lot of fun to use though
@@meatcranium4280 I ordered one and the second release of them has a 275 degree setting.
@@nathanielcrowder1978 nice. They took my recommendations
you were lucky
I can see that they sold your spider 22 with cover to me they told me that they sell it separately for $ 60.00👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Wow that’s expensive!! They sent me all of it for no charge to do a review. It’s my least used accessory, however the newer ones have been improved, including a 275 setting. Thanks for the support and watching.
9:30 am awww 😞😞
Jordan Banks 10:30 my time, I’ll be working.
15.30 for me :)
$280 in order to turn your $160 kettle into $440 underperforming pellet grill? No thanks, Spider. I'll just buy an actual pellet grill for that price.
EnterNameHere I bought both my kettles for $60 each, and you can probably find them cheaper if you look. This is for already existing kettle customers. I would tell you to not buy a kettle just to get this, however if you already have one, consider. Thanks for the support and watching.
Your just not mechanically inclined buddy. Mine does not hold a steady temp it bounces up and down about a 30 degree swing, disappointing as I’ve been waiting for this to come out since last summer.
Stick with charcoal and put a BBQ Guru on it.
Jeff I love my charcoal, in fact, I’m going to do a Super Low N Slow cook using my FlameBoss and Grillstone,or maybe the TIPTOPTEMP And gillstone to set and forget for 10-14 hours. Now, pellets are wood, they are just compressed wood made into pellets. However, there is a difference in taste with pellets and charcoal. Thanks for the support and watching Brother
Man, move your washers out and under the knobs. Get them out of the middle and it will set down on the grill easier. Also your grease drip deal is In the wrong position.
Jason Hannsz I fixed the greese tray in the next video and discussed it. It didn’t matter where I put the washers it was still extremely difficult, in fact, I have one under and on on top and the one on top has proven to be more difficult. Maybe it should specify in the directions. O Wait, I cover that as well in subsiquent videos. Thanks for the comment
Jason Hannsz O Yeah the grease channel clogged up in the correct position.
This disappeared and now it’s back...wtf did it vanish?
Greenid Guy I don’t know. I haven’t done anything with it.
@@meatcranium4280 Regardless I'll be watching as it looks like a great alternative for someone that would like a pellet smoker/grill, but not ANOTHER grill/smoker
Greenid Guy it’s very affordable, however, definitely watch, I did have challenges.
Why? Just why?
Chris M can make things easier I guess
@@meatcranium4280 I didn't see a speck of easy!
Chris M Loading the Pellets was easy , and turning the knob, LOL
@@meatcranium4280 Those bright spots are what matters! Ha!
Chris M always a silver lining
I woulda kicked the hell outa that damn thing! I was getting mad just watching it collapse on you. Did you edit out the cussing? 😅
Josh Benware O YES!! I went on a profanity latent tirade. Lol. I was getting really pissed, however today is a different day. I am making a brisket on it right now, and it it holding fantastically. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.
@@meatcranium4280 glad to hear! Hard work pays off. It's been a while since youve done a mod type vid. Kinda takes me back, lol
Some people are just mechanically challenged. LOL.........LOL
CJ T get one. See how it goes for ya. It’s still giving me fits
that was hard to watch lol
Sam Lee it was even harder to get in the rack. Lol. Thanks for the support and watching Brother.