I once faced Fred in the nets. He was well past his best (in about 1972), when I was an up and coming 18 year old opener. He bowled about 30 balls at me and it was about ball 15 when I actually managed to get a bat on one. He was still very, very quick and moved it all over the place. He also was very funny; I've been sledged many times but he was clever. I faced many fine fast bowlers in my club career in the Yorkshire League, many of whom were professionals who had or went on to play first class and test cricket, but I don't think any of them came near Fred for pace, accuracy and movement. He was the best of his generation; possibly of all time.
Wow, cool story. Thanks. Never seen him, before my time. But I own a 1972 Wisden which was his personal copy!!!! Signed by him, and unusually he liked to laminate his books!
As a Lancashire lad I have to admit Yorkshire has produced some really great cricketers, Fred being one of the very best. Mr Boycott is also up there in my opinion and I can remember a time watching England that the only one we could rely on to score runs was Geoffory Boycott!
2:55. I remember hearing a story about Fred Trueman in his early days. The story goes that he pounded in and bowled a peach of delivery and trapped the batsman LBW. Everyone went up but the umpire gave it not out. Fred was irritated so the next ball was a peach that left the batsman and he was caught behind. Everyone went up but the umpire gave it not out. Fred now had steam coming out of his ears and steamed in and bowled the perfect yorker that sent the stumps flying. He turned to the umpire with a wry smile on his face and muttered 'Eh ump, I nearly had him that time...'
That was in a village game in which Trueman was invited to play as a guest. He was bowling slow when he took the first two wickets and only went fast cos the umpires were so incompetent.
I was in the RAF with fred 1952 when i was posted RAF Hemswell i ended up in the same billet (Cambell block) what a laugh we had, fred was in charge of the sports store and sometimes i would scive off from my sqd and watch him bowling at the nets, but the best times were at Scunthorpe baths dancehall on a saturday night (the girls wouldnt leave him alone so it was a bonus to be in freds company! I met fred again when i was working in Cape Town in the 80's ( "An evening with Fred"at one of the top hotels) he reconised me and said " come on lad its time tha bought me a bloody beer! Great guy RIP
If England have had a better fast bowling duo than Fred Trueman and Brian Statham I would like someone to enlighten me. For me, who grew up watching him, Fred had the finest action I have ever seen. Magical!!!
I was at Headingley that day when India were 0-4 in their second innings. You never forget something like that - and I'll never forget Fred's run-up and bowling action.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest bowlers (along with Barnes, England's finest)- too often people now aren't aware what a great achievement that was, reaching 300 test wickets, at such a low average
yes what a fantastic bowler was Fred There so many greats you know Hutton Compton Hammond Bedser Laker May Statham . Today the players are not really in the same class.. Than Cricket was a national sport in England instead it has been down graded to a frenetic slogging match with short boundaries heavy bats against very poor bowling. It has become a marginal sport like netball . Sad
@@iankemp8535 I do not think it has become a marginal sport. Yes the batsman who faced those fiery bowlers with out protective gears were really greats. To day one can see batsman getting into the field like gladiators. It is indeed noteworthy to praise players like Don, May, Compton Hutton etc., who all played fast bowlers with steel of nerves.
@@TheAnderson0701 Do not comment as ur cricketting knowledge is Zero. I still consider the yester year cricketers as greats as they played without protecting gear. If u know the history of Nari contractor u will understand the playing conditions in those days. It is ur comment which is DUMB
@@indianallways5720 Phil Hughes died despite a helmet, but Nari Contractor survived the Griffith delivery... So death on the field is sheer bad luck if the player truly belongs to the highest level.... Too much protective gear (esp helmet) has made the modern batsmen too casual & cavalier wrt to footwork and technique... Esp on the backfoot... Both in shots & defence.. even leaving the ball... You should remember that Sunny (Gavaskar) played the fearsome foursome of WI, Thomo/Lillee/Pasco, Imran/Sarfaraz/Akram & Willis/Snow all without any helmet or any modern protective gear... So he along with Sir Viv was the last pair which belonged to the extraordinary league of gentlemen who played without helmets with primitive gear.... Their records are way beyond & incomparable to the lowly ones of the helmeted guys... Sachin included!
I remember being sat on Freddie Truemans knee as a 4 year old at my cousins wedding, 11 years later I reminded him that I sat on his knee when he attended my other cousins wedding - a great Yorkshireman
I loved Freddie Trueman’s action....and his aggression when bowling his foil at the other end was Brian Statham...perfect for Fred at the other end.They certainly complimented each other......
I'm no Yorkshire fan, but I agree with Boycott, Trueman was a great bowler.Once seen, never forgotten. He had a long curved run up, and as he approached the wicket, his shirt sleeve, which he had assiduously rolled up to his bicep, would have unravelled, and flapped at point of delivery. . Goodness knows how many wickets he would have taken had he bowled at the rabbits of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc. He also missed a tour due to some minor indiscretion. Not for nothing was he known as ' Fiery Fred ' In his later years he charmed us on Test Match Special with his wit and wisdom. I'm a Glamorgan fan, but I do so miss Fred Trueman.
Yes Moggs I remember going to Lords bunking off school to see Denis Compton playing against Yorkshire . It was a I think 1950 or 51 Anyway there was a young Yorkshire 19 year old fast bowler on leave from RAF with a beautiful action bowling from the Pavilion end. I remember thinking this chap looks pretty good.. It was Fred Truman . I even predicted that he would play for England .. Great player loved him on Test match special wit Brian Johnson
Notice lack of celebration when a wicket is taken ,, my favourite all Time fast bowler he once told me if he had been born n in Surrey he would have played in many more tests
Speaking of Fred’s backside, he was lying face down on the massage table and Richard Hutton made a remark about its size. Fred countered, “It takes a big hammer to drive home a big stake.”
After Fred retired he was a regular in the commentary box, and one day whilst live on air he had his leg pulled over the size of his backside, which had increased significantly after he retired and he replied: "Aye lad but it takes a big hammer to knock in a big nail"
There is a story about Fred bowling for Yorkshire against the Combined Universities eleven, which the ridiculous class structure of English cricket deemed a ‘First Class’ game. Fred bowling to the openers bowled a perfect ball which pitched middle and leg, seemed away and hit the top of off stump. As the opener from the University walked past Fred on the way back to the Pavilion he said.. “ I say Mr. Trueman that was a marvellous delivery” Fred looked at him and said “Aye I know it was…. just a shame I wasted it on you” 🤣🤣
I'm not so familiar (mostly because of age) just how good these guys were, but how would they compare to say: Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly? In your opinion
@@saleemkirmani5583Worrell and Walcott were no slouches either. Worrell was a classy stroke maker and Walcott was the power hitter of his day! Conrad Hunte was also a class player but not as legendary as the others!
Fred wasn't a bad batsman either scoring 3 first class centuries (on uncovered pitches too). He never took his batting seriously and Brian Close usually 'promoted' him up the order to score quick runs before a declaration (he was probably the first 'pinch hitter' in one day cricket) Today he might be considered to be an all rounder but then a bowler and useful lower order batsman.
During his career England played a further 51 test matches where Fred was not picked. He took 307 test match wickets with a strike rate of 49.4! Fred would have taken 500 test wickets if he’d been treated fairly by the selectors
As I recall, Typhoon eventually moved to Australia and became a school teacher. When Packer's rebellion happened during the seventies, he and Trueman were drafted to commentate on the matches with Richie Benaud and Bill Lawry.
I think they made up with each other towards the end of Fred's life, but you're right. When he was on Test Match Special, Trueman apparently couldn't even bring himself to mention Geoff Boycott by name, he always referred to him as "the man from Woolley."
@@ianclarke1852 He had a very high opinion of Fred Trueman as a player but he thought he should have done more to help younger bowlers learn their craft (especially Yorkshire bowlers).
Treviscoe, I think its really important when you have a high degree of skill in a particular field that you try and help the next generation. Theres an episode of Dads Army where the retired Fred Trueman bowls one delivery to Capt Mainwairing. Incredibly quick, remarkable action.
Almost certainly. Few deserve to be spoken of in the same breath. Lillee and Marshall definitely. Maybe Holding. Had Trueman been selected more consistently (blame the selectors) he might well be regarded as the GOAT without question. He's my number one whatever.
@@Treviscoe They were very, very, good. As a pairing they could rank with Trueman & Statham, Lillee & Thomson, Holding & Roberts and a few others I should be able to think of but can't right now.
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf Contenders certainly. It's been a while since I read Fred's autobiography but I remember him having some unkind words about a couple of Australian bowlers. One may have been Ray Lindwall but I could be totally wrong and would be happy to be corrected. I wonder if Broad and Anderson will be remembered as fondly by future generations? Statistically they should be but neither is a true *fast* bowler so there isn't quite the same cachet about them when compared to the other pairings mentioned above.
I've just remembered a story Fred told about a game he played whilst on Tour. He wasn't picked for a particular Test and went on a trip. He arrived at a village where a game was about to be played. He was immediately recognised, and invited to play for the home team. He gladly accepted. Now the away team weren't too happy, but went along with it. Fred was given the first over, and steamed in, with the first ball rapping the batsman's pads. Plumb LBW thought Fred. " Howzat ?", he asked politely. " Not out ", said the Umpire. What Fred didn't realise was that the Umpire was a member of the away team, and wasn't going to give Fred much help, or hope. Balls 2, 3, 4 and 5, all hit the pads, were clearly LBW,s, but the Umpire was unfazed. " Not out ", every time. Fred was now steaming, and realising he only had one ball left in the over, went for broke. He raced in, bowled a Yorker so fast, it couldn't be seen by anyone, let alone the hapless batsman. All three stumps were removed. The batsman looked crestfallen, and shell shocked, but stood his ground. Fred was jubilant. He turned, crouched, raised his arm in the air, and shrieked, " HOWZAT ?" The umpire looked at Fred, smiled, and said " Well bowled ... ..... YOU NEARLY HAD HIM THAT TIME ".
Fred was phenomenal no doubt but not sure why people rag on modern players so much. Pretty sure the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh and more recently Steyn and current bowlers like Cummings would have taken serious number of wickets on uncovered pitches also can you imagine how Warne, for me the greatest of all time would have turned the ball on those pitches, in his prime most balls would have turned square in the amount of rough offered?
Yes Geoff Compton was a real great player and sportsman charismatic charming. He made David Beckham look ugly He would empty the bars every time he went out to bat .. A great footballer who would have played many times for England had it not been for the war. Should have been knighted . They get gongs for little today considering what a phenomenal player and sportsman he was .
1 thing i would pick up on is the comment about Trueman not getting to bowl at zimbabwe and bangladesh. Hang on a second, India in the 50's were awful a lot worse than those 2 teams now, and new zealand. Also Fred got to bowl on uncovered pitches so theres arguments both ways which is way its hard to compare era's
Erapalli prassana karan Gowri Tiger puttodi saleem Durani mediam face googly chanderseakar old players da terrific catcher in slip position Ck Naidu, Fharook Engginer n. n many more who they lifted up but forgot dammit
The Greatest #XI of All Time 1 Jack Hobbs 2 Barry Richards 3 Don Bradman (C.) 4 Sachin Tendulkar 5 Viv Richards 6 Gary Sobers 7 Adam Gilchrist (W.) 8 Shane Warne 9 Wasim Akram 10 Dennis Lillee 11 Sydney Barnes 12th: Malcolm Marshall. Substitutes: ( W.G Grace , Brian Lara , Imran Khan , Muttiah Muralitharan , Fred Trueman )
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf Whom would you exclude to accommodate your mentioned players? You have to understand that I can't include everybody on a limited spot.
@@Billie0708 Yes, ofcourse . I would exchange the places of Trueman and Lillee to start with,and strongly consider Ray Lindwall. I was just musing over a joint England and West Indian team to compete with your choice 11. Thanks for your postings, I am in rather poor health at the moment, but you have cheered me up with your selections, and I have picked up some of my old playfair cricket annuals ! I shall continue my musings and thank you for my recent raise in spirits ! Happy 2021 !
It's common to show all da great players but some understanding or agreement seems to b so. More class players even in India but 4got Or for da amount? 👈
Fred would have taken many more test wickets if the "Establishment" had not considered him to be politically incorrect. Many false, denigrating stories about him found the ears of those who were all too eager to believe them and who were in a position to keep him out of test teams. Yorkshire weren't always nice to him either.
"He never got the chance to bowl at Zimbabwe or Bangladesh" ... oh fuck off, how weak were India, Pakistan and New Zealand back then??????????????????? 3.27 ... 8 for 31 against absolute minnows India. 229 of his 307 wickets at home in England. A great bowler in his time no doubt, but let's not beat his career up too much.
What a travesty that Boycott gets knighted and Trueman didn't. What a lion hearted cricketer Fred was. I don't remember him beating up women and going into self-imposed exile because there were too many good batsmen around. Disgraceful.
And yet you were curious enough to watch the video which has got nothing to do with the incident you mentioned? Or is it that you didn’t really watch the video and you are here just to wind up people who have a genuine interest in cricket just because it gives you a smug entitled feeling of a superior morality over others that do? 🤔
Maybe we all detests you as well have you ever had a conversation with the man about anything, well some of us have....until you have and all the facts are revealed then shut up
I once faced Fred in the nets. He was well past his best (in about 1972), when I was an up and coming 18 year old opener. He bowled about 30 balls at me and it was about ball 15 when I actually managed to get a bat on one. He was still very, very quick and moved it all over the place. He also was very funny; I've been sledged many times but he was clever.
I faced many fine fast bowlers in my club career in the Yorkshire League, many of whom were professionals who had or went on to play first class and test cricket, but I don't think any of them came near Fred for pace, accuracy and movement.
He was the best of his generation; possibly of all time.
Wow, cool story. Thanks. Never seen him, before my time. But I own a 1972 Wisden which was his personal copy!!!! Signed by him, and unusually he liked to laminate his books!
Nice anecdote. Thanks for sharing
That's Dad's Army you were watching 😉😂
As a Lancashire lad I have to admit Yorkshire has produced some really great cricketers, Fred being one of the very best. Mr Boycott is also up there in my opinion and I can remember a time watching England that the only one we could rely on to score runs was Geoffory Boycott!
Herbert Sutcliffe. Len Hutton. Wilfred Rhodes.
Yorkshire have produced some of the best.
Geoff is always so generous with his praise, in spite of their nastiness to, or betrayal of, him.
Geoff once said that Yorkshire people never praise anyone to their face..Only thru third parties
2:55. I remember hearing a story about Fred Trueman in his early days. The story goes that he pounded in and bowled a peach of delivery and trapped the batsman LBW. Everyone went up but the umpire gave it not out. Fred was irritated so the next ball was a peach that left the batsman and he was caught behind. Everyone went up but the umpire gave it not out. Fred now had steam coming out of his ears and steamed in and bowled the perfect yorker that sent the stumps flying. He turned to the umpire with a wry smile on his face and muttered 'Eh ump, I nearly had him that time...'
That was in a village game in which Trueman was invited to play as a guest. He was bowling slow when he took the first two wickets and only went fast cos the umpires were so incompetent.
@@AlunThomas-mp5qo :).
I was in the RAF with fred 1952 when i was posted RAF Hemswell i ended up in the same billet (Cambell block) what a laugh we had, fred was in charge of the sports store and sometimes i would scive off from my sqd and watch him bowling at the nets, but the best times were at Scunthorpe baths dancehall on a saturday night (the girls wouldnt leave him alone so it was a bonus to be in freds company! I met fred again when i was working in Cape Town in the 80's ( "An evening with Fred"at one of the top hotels) he reconised me and said " come on lad its time tha bought me a bloody beer! Great guy RIP
Wow, awesome share👍
If England have had a better fast bowling duo than Fred Trueman and Brian Statham I would like someone to enlighten me. For me, who grew up watching him, Fred had the finest action I have ever seen. Magical!!!
Broad and Anderson. Hard to compare but look at their record.
@@andrewblake2254I know who'd I'd rather face. Look at % of wickets against games played
I was at Headingley that day when India were 0-4 in their second innings. You never forget something like that - and I'll never forget Fred's run-up and bowling action.
You look young.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest bowlers (along with Barnes, England's finest)- too often people now aren't aware what a great achievement that was, reaching 300 test wickets, at such a low average
yes what a fantastic bowler was Fred There so many greats you know Hutton Compton Hammond Bedser Laker May Statham . Today the players are not really in the same class.. Than Cricket was a national sport in England instead it has been down graded to a frenetic slogging match with short boundaries heavy bats against very poor bowling. It has become a marginal sport like netball . Sad
@@iankemp8535 I do not think it has become a marginal sport. Yes the batsman who faced those fiery bowlers with out protective gears were really greats. To day one can see batsman getting into the field like gladiators. It is indeed noteworthy to praise players like Don, May, Compton Hutton etc., who all played fast bowlers with steel of nerves.
@@indianallways5720 Dumb comment.
@@TheAnderson0701 Do not comment as ur cricketting knowledge is Zero. I still consider the yester year cricketers as greats as they played without protecting gear. If u know the history of Nari contractor u will understand the playing conditions in those days. It is ur comment which is DUMB
@@indianallways5720 Phil Hughes died despite a helmet, but Nari Contractor survived the Griffith delivery... So death on the field is sheer bad luck if the player truly belongs to the highest level.... Too much protective gear (esp helmet) has made the modern batsmen too casual & cavalier wrt to footwork and technique... Esp on the backfoot... Both in shots & defence.. even leaving the ball... You should remember that Sunny (Gavaskar) played the fearsome foursome of WI, Thomo/Lillee/Pasco, Imran/Sarfaraz/Akram & Willis/Snow all without any helmet or any modern protective gear... So he along with Sir Viv was the last pair which belonged to the extraordinary league of gentlemen who played without helmets with primitive gear.... Their records are way beyond & incomparable to the lowly ones of the helmeted guys... Sachin included!
I remember being sat on Freddie Truemans knee as a 4 year old at my cousins wedding, 11 years later I reminded him that I sat on his knee when he attended my other cousins wedding - a great Yorkshireman
I loved Freddie Trueman’s action....and his aggression when bowling his foil at the other end was Brian Statham...perfect for Fred at the other end.They certainly complimented each other......
Saw Fred at the Winchester theatre years ago, a cherished memory of a great bowler and fine entertainer.
I'm no Yorkshire fan, but I agree with Boycott, Trueman was a great bowler.Once seen, never forgotten. He had a long curved run up, and as he approached the wicket, his shirt sleeve, which he had assiduously rolled up to his bicep, would have unravelled, and flapped at point of delivery. .
Goodness knows how many wickets he would have taken had he bowled at the rabbits of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, etc. He also missed a tour due to some minor indiscretion.
Not for nothing was he known as ' Fiery Fred '
In his later years he charmed us on Test Match Special with his wit and wisdom.
I'm a Glamorgan fan, but I do so miss Fred Trueman.
Yes Moggs I remember going to Lords bunking off school to see Denis Compton playing against Yorkshire . It was a I think 1950 or 51 Anyway there was a young Yorkshire 19 year old fast bowler on leave from RAF with a beautiful action bowling from the Pavilion end. I remember thinking this chap looks pretty good.. It was Fred Truman . I even predicted that he would play for England .. Great player loved him on Test match special wit Brian Johnson
Notice lack of celebration when a wicket is taken ,, my favourite all Time fast bowler he once told me if he had been born n in Surrey he would have played in many more tests
Speaking of Fred’s backside, he was lying face down on the massage table and Richard Hutton made a remark about its size. Fred countered, “It takes a big hammer to drive home a big stake.”
One more speciality of Fred was that he could bowl with the same stamina since morning as well as in the closing hours. One of the Umpires had quoted.
It's a shame there is no footage of Fred Trueman on youtube when he was at his quickest in the early 1950s. .Easily England's greatest fast bowler.
It's true.
Fred was unplayable. A perfect fast bowler. 309 wickets at 21'.
Its a fact that HE thought so
James anderson
@@blackfox658 James Anderson is not a fast bowler.
How quick did he bowl
Wow...how's that still of his delivery action at 03:00.....phenomenal!!
After Fred retired he was a regular in the commentary box, and one day whilst live on air he had his leg pulled over the size of his backside, which had increased significantly after he retired and he replied:
"Aye lad but it takes a big hammer to knock in a big nail"
Hahahahaha dead set brilliant
A beautiful approach and delivery action, Like Boycott I think it is the best I've seen.
yes a great fast bowler a classic not like whirly wind Willis
@@iankemp8535 Willis was still a great bowler with a big heart, but a different approach.
There is a story about Fred bowling for Yorkshire against the Combined Universities eleven, which the ridiculous class structure of English cricket deemed a ‘First Class’ game. Fred bowling to the openers bowled a perfect ball which pitched middle and leg, seemed away and hit the top of off stump. As the opener from the University walked past Fred on the way back to the Pavilion he said.. “ I say Mr. Trueman that was a marvellous delivery” Fred looked at him and said “Aye I know it was…. just a shame I wasted it on you” 🤣🤣
Damm love that action on crease.
The 3 Ws, Sobers, Kanhai & Hunte. In terms of natural ability I don’t think there has been a better batting lineup!
I'm not so familiar (mostly because of age) just how good these guys were, but how would they compare to say: Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly? In your opinion
@@dmanisthebest1 Superior to them. Sobers , Kanhai and Weekes in particular.
@@saleemkirmani5583Worrell and Walcott were no slouches either. Worrell was a classy stroke maker and Walcott was the power hitter of his day! Conrad Hunte was also a class player but not as legendary as the others!
@@jibsmokestack1 I agree with you.
Fred wasn't a bad batsman either scoring 3 first class centuries (on uncovered pitches too). He never took his batting seriously and Brian Close usually 'promoted' him up the order to score quick runs before a declaration (he was probably the first 'pinch hitter' in one day cricket) Today he might be considered to be an all rounder but then a bowler and useful lower order batsman.
During his career England played a further 51 test matches where Fred was not picked. He took 307 test match wickets with a strike rate of 49.4! Fred would have taken 500 test wickets if he’d been treated fairly by the selectors
Fair call big GB ... I always wonder, as an aussie, whatever happened to Frank tyson after 1954-55?
As I recall, Typhoon eventually moved to Australia and became a school teacher. When Packer's rebellion happened during the seventies, he and Trueman were drafted to commentate on the matches with Richie Benaud and Bill Lawry.
@@peripheraldevotee94 Yep. Tyson was commentating on the one dayers out here in my first few years watching cricket in the early 1980s.
@@peripheraldevotee94 What I meant was why he ended up playing so few tests compared to say Fred Trueman.
@@Bernie8330 I'm pretty certain it was injuries that cut his career short. Don't quote me on that though.
@@peripheraldevotee94 Oh ok ... that makes sense. Sort of like Simon Jones yeah.
I read Fred autobiography...brilliant read..
Funny to hear Boycot singing the praises of someone who cordially detested him.
Interesting then that Geoff Boycott had a very high opinion of Fred
I think they made up with each other towards the end of Fred's life, but you're right. When he was on Test Match Special, Trueman apparently couldn't even bring himself to mention Geoff Boycott by name, he always referred to him as "the man from Woolley."
@@ianclarke1852 He had a very high opinion of Fred Trueman as a player but he thought he should have done more to help younger bowlers learn their craft (especially Yorkshire bowlers).
Treviscoe, I think its really important when you have a high degree of skill in a particular field that you try and help the next generation. Theres an episode of Dads Army where the retired Fred Trueman bowls one delivery to Capt Mainwairing. Incredibly quick, remarkable action.
@@Treviscoe They did make up in 2002 when Boycott got struck down with Cancer.
Sir Geoffrey Boycott . Love you always ❤❤❤
Him and larwood great bowlers
Greatest fast bowler that has ever lived.
Almost certainly. Few deserve to be spoken of in the same breath. Lillee and Marshall definitely. Maybe Holding. Had Trueman been selected more consistently (blame the selectors) he might well be regarded as the GOAT without question. He's my number one whatever.
@@kevinjohnbetts I agree (but would add the great Pakistani bowler Wasim Akram, and Waqar Younis at a stretch; both were superb bowlers).
@@Treviscoe They were very, very, good. As a pairing they could rank with Trueman & Statham, Lillee & Thomson, Holding & Roberts and a few others I should be able to think of but can't right now.
@@kevinjohnbetts Let me help you out :Hall and Griffith, Lindwall and Miller .
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf Contenders certainly. It's been a while since I read Fred's autobiography but I remember him having some unkind words about a couple of Australian bowlers. One may have been Ray Lindwall but I could be totally wrong and would be happy to be corrected.
I wonder if Broad and Anderson will be remembered as fondly by future generations? Statistically they should be but neither is a true *fast* bowler so there isn't quite the same cachet about them when compared to the other pairings mentioned above.
Really, I am a Middlesex man through and through but 'cricket' is probably pronounced in a Yorkshire accent, not least because of Sir Geoffrey.
" Creekett "
Olden days of these fast bowlers era were golden days.. These days cricket has became crap..
RIP cricket since 2007-08. Ponting, Lara, Sachin, Mcgrath last generation real great charismatic cricketers.
I've just remembered a story Fred told about a game he played whilst on Tour.
He wasn't picked for a particular Test and went on a trip.
He arrived at a village where a game was about to be played. He was immediately recognised, and invited to play for the home team. He gladly accepted.
Now the away team weren't too happy, but went along with it.
Fred was given the first over, and steamed in, with the first ball rapping the batsman's pads. Plumb LBW thought Fred. " Howzat ?", he asked politely. " Not out ", said the Umpire.
What Fred didn't realise was that the Umpire was a member of the away team, and wasn't going to give Fred much help, or hope.
Balls 2, 3, 4 and 5, all hit the pads, were clearly LBW,s, but the Umpire was unfazed. " Not out ", every time.
Fred was now steaming, and realising he only had one ball left in the over, went for broke.
He raced in, bowled a Yorker so fast, it couldn't be seen by anyone, let alone the hapless batsman. All three stumps were removed. The batsman looked crestfallen, and shell shocked, but stood his ground.
Fred was jubilant. He turned, crouched, raised his arm in the air, and shrieked, " HOWZAT ?"
The umpire looked at Fred, smiled, and said " Well bowled ...
..... YOU NEARLY HAD HIM THAT TIME ".
moggs made me smile mate. Good old Fred. God bless his soul the old scoundrel.
A very old joke .... but all the better for the telling..
LOL Great story.
Top 3 fast bowler of all time.
Trueman is England's greatest ever bowler..Look at the wickets to tests ratio.. No-one comes close..Stats tell it all
they didn't get on for a long time
I agree with Sir Geoffrey Firey Fred was the best
Then why in 1990 and it's on you tube boycott picked his best England 11 and omitted fiery fred
Fred was phenomenal no doubt but not sure why people rag on modern players so much. Pretty sure the likes of Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh and more recently Steyn and current bowlers like Cummings would have taken serious number of wickets on uncovered pitches also can you imagine how Warne, for me the greatest of all time would have turned the ball on those pitches, in his prime most balls would have turned square in the amount of rough offered?
It's actually Warne's fans, who talk more about the rough these days! Respect and forget the rough men!
fred trueman maybe the best of all time.geoff boycott also an england legend
Hutton would by my favourite opener
Good fast bowlers let the wickets and average talk for themselves.good old fred
Sir Geoffrey Boycott
I agree with you Denis Compton was class but the establishment in this country always choose their own.
Yes Geoff Compton was a real great player and sportsman charismatic charming. He made David Beckham look ugly He would empty the bars every time he went out to bat .. A great footballer who would have played many times for England had it not been for the war. Should have been knighted . They get gongs for little today considering what a phenomenal player and sportsman he was .
Both Geoffrey and Fred dad's worked down the pit
1 thing i would pick up on is the comment about Trueman not getting to bowl at zimbabwe and bangladesh. Hang on a second, India in the 50's were awful a lot worse than those 2 teams now, and new zealand. Also Fred got to bowl on uncovered pitches so theres arguments both ways which is way its hard to compare era's
and you keep enjoying 50 metre sixes of top edges
It's BS isn't it
Erapalli prassana karan Gowri Tiger puttodi saleem Durani mediam face googly chanderseakar old players da terrific catcher in slip position Ck Naidu, Fharook Engginer n. n many more who they lifted up but forgot dammit
The Greatest #XI of All Time
1 Jack Hobbs
2 Barry Richards
3 Don Bradman (C.)
4 Sachin Tendulkar
5 Viv Richards
6 Gary Sobers
7 Adam Gilchrist (W.)
8 Shane Warne
9 Wasim Akram
10 Dennis Lillee
11 Sydney Barnes
12th: Malcolm Marshall.
Substitutes:
( W.G Grace , Brian Lara , Imran Khan , Muttiah Muralitharan , Fred Trueman )
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf Whom would you exclude to accommodate your mentioned players? You have to understand that I can't include everybody on a limited spot.
@@Billie0708 Yes, ofcourse .
I would exchange the places of Trueman and Lillee to start with,and strongly consider Ray Lindwall.
I was just musing over a joint England and West Indian team to compete with your choice 11.
Thanks for your postings, I am in rather poor health at the moment, but you have cheered me up with your selections, and I have picked up some of my old playfair cricket annuals !
I shall continue my musings and thank you for my recent raise in spirits !
Happy 2021 !
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf cheers mate 👍🏼
Graeme Pollock must be close to being selected for best team ever. He and Barry Richards South Africa's greatest batsmen
It’s weird to think boycs was once 11
It's common to show all da great players but some understanding or agreement seems to b so. More class players even in India but 4got Or for da amount? 👈
A dour but good batsman and a hell of a good commentator
Boycott still alive?
Fred would have taken many more test wickets if the "Establishment" had not considered him to be politically incorrect. Many false, denigrating stories about him found the ears of those who were all too eager to believe them and who were in a position to keep him out of test teams. Yorkshire weren't always nice to him either.
Fiery Freddie! RIP
wasim akram???????
Plz sir chak.
He has many associates , not many admirers or friends , he even admits that
It's about time the establishment knighted Geoffrey boycott legend.
Should have knighted Denis Compton A real great player
They should have knighted Denis Compton A phenomenal player and a very great sportsman in both cricket and football
Looks like they were listening to you
cricket in general today is garbage
RIP cricket since 2007-08. Ponting, Lara, Sachin, Mcgrath last generation real great charismatic cricketers.
@@Aman-nk5uq Ponting and McGrath charismatic? Lara for sure, Sachin was a gentleman. The first two esp Ponting were horrible sportsman.
Now joined by his famous in-law, Raquel Welch.
A fast bowler from a mining community who never got injured... I wonder why?! 😉
Not enough credit ever given to Brian Statham
Like Name like trueman 👌👍👈
Everyone talks about Barnes and Trueman
No one cares about Jimmy broady gough harmisson
as good as jimmy is, he's not in the same class as fred
Yes, they do. But you can't talk about just one player all the time. You have to give others a mention.
Sydney Barnes was equally great if not better
"He never got the chance to bowl at Zimbabwe or Bangladesh" ... oh fuck off, how weak were India, Pakistan and New Zealand back then???????????????????
3.27 ... 8 for 31 against absolute minnows India. 229 of his 307 wickets at home in England. A great bowler in his time no doubt, but let's not beat his career up too much.
I see you have edited your comments - you should have got rid of the profanity as well, it does you no credit
@@MrZORROish I would only have edited typos, not content. And my point is spot on.
Englands finest opening Bat Geoffery Boycott
Boycott is up there but I think Len Hutton Jack Hobbs Sutcliffe were ahead of him
Especially when paired with John Edrich.
Yes along with Hutton Sutcliffe Hobbs
Trinitarian Absolutely, Boycott would break the bowlers' hearts and Edrich would get the runs, a perfect combination in my opinion.
I wish I could say I respect Geoff, but I cant
You can respect his achievements as a player if not as a person.
say nothing then
What a travesty that Boycott gets knighted and Trueman didn't. What a lion hearted cricketer Fred was. I don't remember him beating up women and going into self-imposed exile because there were too many good batsmen around. Disgraceful.
This man is a convicted criminal. He was found guilty of beating his partner. Supporting this criminal says a lot about you
And yet you were curious enough to watch the video which has got nothing to do with the incident you mentioned? Or is it that you didn’t really watch the video and you are here just to wind up people who have a genuine interest in cricket just because it gives you a smug entitled feeling of a superior morality over others that do? 🤔
Lots of people are wrongly convicted.
I believe him when he explained how it was a miscarriage of justice. Boycott may be awkward but he's not a liar
Keep living in the past then ^^
Well everyone detests Boycott
No they don't.
Geoffrey is a great man
Maybe we all detests you as well have you ever had a conversation with the man about anything, well some of us have....until you have and all the facts are revealed then shut up