MASSIVE ROTATION of Kristin Tattar (5 minute form check)
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- This Off-Season I take a look at the best players' form. Not to teach you "the right way to throw" but to inspire you to learn from the great. There are a million ways to make the disc fly far and accurately, and they are all dependent on the individual. That is why I want to show you the many ways that can work perfectly so that you can develop your own, unique style.
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This is the second video I've seen today where the player is opening the front hip and keeping the back leg back at impact rather than the back leg coming around like an opening door. I love it.
It is more like the baseball swing than I thought. Being a right hand batter makes it difficult for me to translate any feeling into the left handed swing. I feel it now.
Thank you so much for showing this!!!!
Yeah, I love this. Pressure from that plant leg forces rotation. The more I get into dissecting my form the more I subscribe to this method. Whether or not I do it effectively is another story...lol. Thanks man! Awesome as always!
I want to take a moment to point out how crazy it is to see you actually mimic these throws fairly well… based off the foot marks on the ground it took you a while to be happy with the result but it’s awesome to actually see it in action.
Thanks for the continued effort!
Good point! But actually this one I got down pretty quickly. The other marks are for Eagle McMahon...
I would LOVE one of these dissecting the clean smooth form of Niklas Antilla. One of my absolute favorite forms on tour
I love Kristin's form because it's so under control. There's not a lot of movement that can throw things out of sync. It does take a lot of explosion and flexibility though, and her feet turning is what prevents too much twisting and loading in the knees but the timing has to be perfect for that to work.
I think this is one of your best videos yet! Kristin probably has the key to most average players form. The front foot hit being low and coming up looks to generate a lot of power which should generate speed in the release. Great video THANKS!
Love this series. I try to implement something from each player and its definitely helped my game. Please keep these videos coming!
That's the plan!
Love your takes!
It's crazy how long its taken for the DG community to mention two ways of building leverage for the brace - either side to side or top to bottom. Like Kristin & Drew would be top to bottom, Eagle & Simon side to side. Same end result. I've spent time learning both and I feel that it's a "6 of 1 half a dozen of the other" result. You can do it either way and not improve your form. But changing from one to the other takes a lot of time to learn and the end result makes no difference. Finding which form techniques are common so you make meaningful changes yields better returns on your time investment. I wish I'd realized this sooner. Really enjoying this series as well. Great to see what the pros are doing and breaking it down a bit.
Cant say i agree,, Everyones a hybrid, some might be more forward pushing, some might be more down and up, but youre doing both
Love this video series! Very cool and informative to see how pros do different aspects of the game
Glad you like them!
This is pretty similar to what you did in your video about standstills, right? That kind of form has been feeling really good for me, to sit into the plant foot and try to feel the tension in the latissimus. Keep up the good work!
great tips!!
Glad you think so!
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Great Review Janni! What do you think of her utilizing a side -shuffle hop vs traditional x-step much like Issac Robinson ?
I'll have to look into it to answer you.
Love this series, thank you for doing them.
Is it worth addressing her 'crow hop' as part of how the bouncy brace works?
I like it, but it's a personal thing for sure.
I personally have found my biggest distance by "stomping" my last foot down. I stay light and on my toes in the x-step and then stomp my weight down on my front foot. Imagine you were in space and were trying to rotate your upper body, but your lower body would just want to rotate the opposite direction. The speed and force you are trying to impart with your upper body has to have an equal and opposite reaction in your lower body. Seating your weight acts as a solid anchor to build your upper body rotation off from.
I always love your videos. I notice how most pros rotate on their front heal. I mostly fall over my front font. How the hell do I fix this? I think that is taking a ton of distance out of my throw. Maybe the down and up from the butt will help me.
Maybe try to feel your whole foot hitting the ground?
@@dgspindoctor So instead of balls of my feet, try landing flat footed.
@@jumbo8673 I've had to experiment with deliberately lifting up my plant foot's toes up during the swing. Forces me to rotate on my heel. I think you may have to train yourself this way - or at least experiment with it. Slowly, at first, then keep working. I think it also helps to make sure your plant foot is at least parallel to the direction of the throw - 90 degree angle or more.
@@NickCarroll Ill try to focus on that. I like the lift the toes approach. Appreciate the help.
There is no real reason to spin on the heel. Really, no reason. You need to throw against the leg, and the whole foot gives you more stability. If you look at GG and Wiggins, and Kevin Jones, the foot turns only after the disc is way gone.
I look forward to your video on the "MASSIVE REACHBACK of Jennifer Allen"!
I find her form inspiring, but as a 6'3" non-former-gymnast I'm not sure it's for me. Would love to see your analysis though.
Hmm... I guess it's doable, but her style is SO far from what I recommend to people, that I'm not sure if it's good to make a video on that.
@@dgspindoctor haha, fair enough. Your channel, your rules. 😄
be careful going "down and out". If it turn into 'down and up" then bad things happen :) watch out for the swoop
about "the front foot is opening very fast", what pro would you use as an example of front foot opening noticeably slowly?
I think his point is that her rotation is very fast, not that some other pros are slow. She really whips her shoulders, hips, and arm around, and her foot follows accordingly.
Garrett Gurthie, Eagle McMahon for example. There are many.
She has a super strong brace and stays behind the hit. I bet she never skips leg day.
Well, me neither. Because I never even schedule a leg day.
The lunge she's in at 2:14 is almost a full warrior 1 yoga pose. A lot of core and leg strength and mobility there.
How important is the back foot? If you compare Kristin and your throw, your foot is more open than Kristin's foot.
Not as important as the BackLeg DiscGolfCult makes it seem.
Sure, if the back foot is very open, it's harder to shift the weight and pressure forward, but for me and many others whose hip is naturally more externally rotated, it's almost impossible to get closed. We'll just have to deal with it. I can still throw 500' even if the backleg isn't optimal.
Also, mimicking other's forms is quite hard, so of course I don't look EXACTLY like Kristin.
Her rotational speed is amazing!
Is that the OTB or LVC?
I guess it was OTB, but I could be wrong.
kind of ironic how she goes up and down but in your last video you speak of its not helpful. (as well as your apprentice) but aceit pretty much explains how it is benefitial on adding a bit more force to the brace.. it harder for beginners to get right but its like jumping on a scale instead of just stepping on one.. great video none the less!
I'm just showing what Kristin is doing and talking about that. If you read the description, you'll notice that my aim is not to teach the "correct" fom but to inspire you to find your own style. I have always said, that you need to brace hard and to do that you need to push back. As the body is on the brace leg, you need to push also up. This is very natural.
Also I point out several times, that Kristin does things I consider odd.
I don't have an apprentice.
I prefer throwing against the leg, not spinning out, but still wanted to show her style.
Is there something wrong about this?
She have more of a jump when she crosses her back legg.