Joe Lycett: "Gervais's skill wasted attacking minorities, his last stand up was comedically weak"
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The comedian sits down with Lewis Goodall and discusses Ricky Gervais's controversial standup where he often discusses minorities, including the trans community.
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Totally agree. Gervais punching down is pure disappointment. It's lazy.
Making jokes about confused men is 'punching down'? Interesting...
Nobody’s confused except you homophobes and transphobes who are dementedly obsessed with strangers who have nothing to do with you..
Yet when it comes to Brexit, Reform or Trump its perfectly fine to punch down at the poor white working classes who vote for them isn't it, like Stewart Lee and Nish Kumar have done numerous routines over? The complaint isn't really about punching down, it's about not taking the p*** about subjects particularly found to the hearts of the chattering middle-classes
He is a hero attacking the woke kind virus that is destroying kids and ruining the ability to think of oneself and think creatively as puts conforming and mainstream reasoning above independent thought
Delighted someone is finally saying this. Happened to go to a Gervais show about 7 years ago. He spent 20 mins lambasting Caitlin Jenner. Spent up to ten mins on Madeleine McCann jokes ... But then he spent the last 20 mins of the show pontificating at the audience on Animal rights. Wonderful cause, animal rights, absolutely but to go from trans and child abuse jokes to lecturing people on Animal rights was just a bit surreal and divorced from reality. Btw love Joe Lycett. Went to see him many years ago on my second date with my wife ❤
Just because Ricky identifies as a stand up comedian, doesn't mean he is one.
Frankie Boyle
Couldn’t agree more. ‘Grumpy old man riles against social progression’ is such a tired cliche. Yet some people seem to think it’s incredibly daring and exciting.
Keep following the flock little sheep.
@@rasco1521 I don’t know what you mean by this?
@@rasco1521 The irony that you're echoing the sentiments of every curmudgeon who came before you.
@@jamiec4000think about it 🤔
@@norbertgoulash5482 Nah, I want someone to really spell it out for me, not come out with some meaningless, generic comment about being a sheep. What's the problem?
Used to like Ricky but very disappointed with some of his recent choices.
Ricky has gone from mocking people like David Brent to becoming him.
David Brent was maybe not as much of a character as we thought
Ricky is a legend and a hero fighting the woke mind virus. Which is killing kids and threatening freedom of thought and speech and thereby Weston society and everything that made Weston society great
Agree about Gervais. Turned his latest Netflix offering off
I thought it was brilliant i saw it live at Wembley. I see it again on Netflix.
Huge Gervais fan, I thought it was his worst yet, I feel like I’ve seen him do this already more than once
I used to love that self deprecating humour that Gervais used to excel at. I saw him about 10ish years ago and a huge proportion of his material was actually poking fun at a (hopefully made up but who knows) woman with Down's Syndrome. I don't find punching down funny, I find it upsetting and bullying. Hence he is a comedian I would not pay to watch and I was revolted enough by his set that I would turn the tv over if he was on a comedy show). No doubt if enough of us do that, he'd whine about cancel culture because that's the place he is in now.
He did WHAT?! I'm so shocked and disappointed that he's ended up in this clichéd attacking the less powerful
These people are tiresome.
They smear themselves in excrement, walk into a party and then complain that everyone else leaves. They seem to think the rest of the word is obligated the endure the stench.
I always thought the idea of comedians is to kick up not down. Otherwise it's just being cruel. The jester is there to keep the king in his place and hold him to account, not to kick those who are already down.
Unfortunately some people like to use comedy as a shield to excuse just being cruel.
You don't see much right wing comedy these days because the right has become obsessed with fake woke wars and kicking minorities so a lot of actual right wing comedians have just stepped back because they don't want to get involved in that, it's why you don't hear much about the blue collar worker comedian group in America anymore, their jokes were all about working, country music and life, they didn't want to mock minorities so they took a step back when right wing pundits like Shapiro came along demanding the right starts attacking people who can't fight back.
What you might consider cruel may just be honesty to someone else. Reality TV, horror films, gangsta rap are way more offensive to me. Are they left or right wing?
@@telbel4979 there's a difference between fantasy and reality. Freddy Krueger isn't real.
@@swanchamp5136you didn't answer the question. Is gangsta rap left of right-wing?
he probably avoided that question due to its stupidity. "gangsta rap" is neither left wing or right wing. it is literally just street poetry@@telbel4979
the idea of the comedian is to make people laugh. if people laugh at certain things the comic will lean into those things. if people stopped going to his shows he would change his tunes.
Gervais lost the plot when he went to America. Now all he does, in a desperate ploy to stay relevant, is punch down at people less wealthy and fortunate than he is.
I don't disagree that Gervais' comedy is intermittently problematic. It is. But he also, quite famously, attacks rich, famous people ALL THE TIME. He goes to awards shows and DESTROYS the rich and famous. So, to say that ALL he does is attack the less fortunate is misguided.
I think the point is that while he used to do that, its not something he does anymore and hes pivoted. Lycett does state he has been less like this in the past and while it used to be the case he hits at everyone it does feel like the depth has thinned out now@TroubleToby3040
Less wealthy? Did you see him hosting the Emmy's? You're not punching down by refusing to accept factually inaccurate, woke ideologies. He's just saying what 98% is thinking but isn't allowed to say.
No such thing as “punching down”
mUh… wOkE!!! 🤣😂
I didn't care for Joe till recently now i like him a lot. I've never really got Gervais, so he's even worse for me now. I love it when someone changes my mind, thanks Joe!
Joe as an act I've found to be a bit hit and miss, probably an acquired taste, but outside his act he seems like a decent person.
I used to love Gervais. But he’s become the thing all immensely super successful comedians become. A bore. He thinks he’s wise and smart. Dave Chappell has the same problem. Shame how punching down is easier than punching up.
Chappelle has this joke in his new show with a super long build-up and then the punchline is that trans people always disappoints. And all I could think was, 'well, what were you expecting, Dave? What is it you want from trans people that you aren't getting? What have they promised you?'
I have to admit I still don't get why people laughed. It was as if they found relief in mocking trans people because it was done in the guise of a joke. So the material was weak and the method was essentially 'lather, rinse, repeat' which left the 'attack' as the point of the joke.
I'm from the states. I've loved Joe Lycett for years. I know exactly who you are, Hugo Boss. Lol😊
Well said Joe, I have tremendous respect for the work you do. Keep punching up, not down.
If only regime ''comedians'' like Joe were actually funny....
@@wheyayeman404 Regime ''comedian'' Joe is as unfunny as your spelling....
Well said.
Agreed, Gervase does a lot of punching down these days. It is a waste, and disappointing.
Punching down? To a community that has the power to BAN people for having a differing opinion than them? A community that gets an ENTIRE MONTH to celebrate their sexuallty, but frowns if a straight person wants to have a march of their own? A community that has OPENLY stated they want children to learn of their ways? Yeah! Think you need to look up that definition again.
Joe is right here. I’m a big Gervais fan but I do fear, in his stand up, he’s become ever so slightly ‘lazy’. I don’t mean that disrespectfully, but first and first stand up has to have comic value and his last show at least for me didn’t
Being lazy is not listening to what Gervais actually says and realising he’s not attacking trans, rather the zealous activists. There’s a difference!
Gervais would claim to be attacking the people who attack minorities by mimicking them - whether true or not, his act attracts those who hate, so it doesn't matter if those opinions are his directly or whether "satire" against those who have those beliefs
There maybe satirical jokes but he’s show is not satire it’s literal his opinion
@@IDoNotLikeMyAlgorithmhow do you know he’s not being ironic? Are you able to ascertain when someone is joking or when they really believe something? And what do you think he actually believes?
@@antonydavis2764 Ultimately it doesn't matter what Gervais himself believes, nor whether he's trying to be "ironic". When you look around at the audience and realise what it's become, it's no longer a comedy show.
It's identical to Rowling. She can claim all she likes not to be a far-right freak promoting ignorance, hatred and violence against others, but she's betrayed by the audience her actions have attracted.
If these are the people you attract, if these are the people who consider you to be one of them, the rest of us are right to not care whether you're just being "edgy", or "ironic".
Gervais was very funny, once upon a time.
Yeah but the prejudiced right wing grift pays better..
Gervais told you all how woke he is when he said he just loved illegal immigrants!!
I don't think it does, though.
Rowling isn't doing it for money, she's just revealed herself to be a hateful old hag.
Musk isn't doing it for money, he's just a vile man.
Lineham hasn't done anything notable since Black Books and seems to earn a pittance occasionally appearing on far-right podcasts to complain that people aren't obliged to tolerate him.
Gervais doesn't need to ever work again.
I think these people are just morally repugnant and a lot of them are so wealthy they don't have to worry about earning again, so they're free to spew their hate and ignorance into the world.
Then, of course, they all complain that they're no longer being invited to dinner parties and industry events, and instead of wondering whether it's because they're just vile people no one wants to work with, they double-down and cry "victim".
I love Ricky but his last special was unfunny and nasty
Gervais's standup from 2017 was funny. I may be in the minority, but I found it hilarious. In his next one, all he did was drone on about Twitter. For his most recent one I was excited. Maybe a great Ricky standup again.
Within 2 minutes he was talking about Twitter bios. The man needs to spend less time on Twitter.
Yep I agree with this. 2017 was great. The next was woeful and I still watched and occasionally laughed at the new one, but it’s very tired. I still watched though so can’t blame him for pumping them out.
Ricky Gervais has appeared on screen with Homer Simpson and Kermit the Frog. He created one of the most successful Britcoms of all time. And he wants to feel like he's edgy and transgressive rather than the most mainstream figure possible. He's like Joe Rogan, except he actually had success as a comedian.
From The Office and Extras to 'jokes' about Chinese people eating dogs. Definitely a waste of RG's skills. The last show felt like an AI-scripted "Write me a Ricky Gervais stand-up show".
Gervais was mildly funny. Now he's just nasty.
Bet your a bag of laughs down the pub mate....
Used to be a fan of Gervais. He's just turned into drunken "back in my day" ranting old man now. Boring.
Ive been a Gervais fan for years, but I have no idea how he won a Golden Globe. It was such a weak routine.
To be blunt, he needs Merchant. Everything without him is lacking.
Agree
Gervais is just the latest Bernard Manning.
Joe is 100% right - Gervais is a titan of UK comedy for The Office alone, but his sad turn into an alt-right misinformed boomer has been spectacularly sad.
He's not alt-right. He just has common sense, unlike this comments section it turns out.
"common sense" in this case is you saying "finally someone who's ignorant in the same ways as I, Stuart, am ignorant".
@@TheEvilCheesecake Nah! Just not a fan of legalized child grooming.
@@Stuart267 please do explain further.
He is right. Gervais becomes odd.
Nothing odder & totally unfunny than these regime ''comedians'' like Joe....
@@frankbrennan1619 "regime" 😂😂😂
I love Joe Lycett. I can sit with husband, children and grandchildren and we are all laughing. Gervais reminds me of dire sitcoms of the 60s and 70s that only really appealed to bigoted bitter old white men.
Very glad he said Gervais and people like him can say what they like .
This is the most important thing, comedy is subjective to the individual, you shouldn't be ashamed of what you find funny
Yes, but of course this goes both ways.
Gervais can say what he likes, people can find it funny, but we can all also call it what we think it is and decline to participate.
That's where a lot of people like Gervais seem to have a problem, because they seem to imagine the world is obliged to laugh and agree. They seem to think they are OWED compliance and acceptance of their views. They incessantly complain about being "canceled" when this "cancellation" is just people judging them on the things they say, the things they believe and the way they treat others.
@@ct5625 yes and this was always the case people just agreed to disagree .
until recently..
People now are literally are being arrested for saying things that aren’t politically correct.
100% agree
Gervais is extremely woke when it comes to animal welfare and rights.
I note he never mocks animal activists.
Yes, because only a c£/t mocks people trying defend the voiceless.
Oh really, there seems a lot of them mocking people marching for gazans, must be a country full of them
who doesn't use there own platform to give views, lycett done it before
@@norbertgoulash5482 I'm pointing out his hypocrisy
Joe's one too
Gervais has become pathetic, to be honest. His old stuff was way funnier.
"Comedically weak" - possibly the greatest put down of Gervais ever. But without any malice! You just have to love Joe Lycett.
I like comedy. Gervais has made me laugh a lot, and at times moved me.
I haven’t liked his stuff for a few years, but assumed it was satire I didn’t get or just a dip in form, but his last offering was just terrible. I couldn’t watch past 20 minutes. It was cheap laugh after trope after lame attempts at self deprecation.
Someone close to him should have pointed out the weakness of his material.
He’s turned into a facsimile of the old time comedians that just say their catch phrase and offer nothing else. Something he used to send up.
Tells it like it is = tells me what I want to hear.
Spot on. Armageddon even worse than Derek and After Life.
Ricky gervais has as much importance as the dialogue on Baywatch.
It really is tired stuff that appeals to the Brexit male who cant see Britain is fast becoming an economic cultural backwater. Attempting the same 'its judgemental i know but cmon its funny' kind of scheme over and over is boring. Not funny anymore. Ricky Gervais is Ricky Gervais.
I went off Gervais before he became... Well, whatever it is he is now. And i actually think I got tired of him exactly because his material got weak and repetitive. Suddenly all that was there was his personality which couldn't hide this grumpiness anymore.
I’m surprised and disappointed in Joe for being this way.
Spot on Joe!
Jesus if I had to listen to lycett I would die of boredom to get him to be more woke would be to give in to someone like lycett
i love ricky too, i did find his last stand show a bit weak too, comedy wise. but it doesn't mean I've gone off him, its just we cant always be at our A game 100% of the time!
I agree with not using comedy to attack minorities, but Gervais joke that I saw was an attack on the 'aggresive use of pronouns' or 'aggresive wokeness'
It was an easy laugh that Gervais got in a complex subject
Saying to older people that 'you must call this man a woman, and here's why", is going to need a persuasive approach
Not really considering the amount of female inmates who have been unwillingly impregnated by these whoa-men that have been allowed to dwell in the same prisons as them.
Gervais and Chappell probably don't even know who this guy is. Gervais doesn't discriminate, he targets everyone. Case in point, Golden Globes.
Joe Lycett: Occasionally offensive, but funny.
Ricky Gervais: Offensive.
I mean, a lot of people including me don't find Lycett funny at all.
@@kriissyy09ify There just isn't a single, solitary, funny regime ''comedian.''
True. And I love Ricky all the more for it!
@frankbrennan1619 what do you mean by regime comedian?
@@mariannehavisham8323 Oh dear, do I really have to explain it to you?
Gervais' stand-up was always weak. In one of his first shows, he dedicated a chunk of the set to just reciting Karl Pilkington's anecdotes on stage.
Gervais is one the greatest comedic geniuses of all time. Lycett obviously has sold out and tried to be more "sensitive and message driven" - which is the death of comedy. I really used to admire Joe but now he's become an embarrassment and worse of all, not funny.
It’s like listening to Taylor Swift criticizing The Beatles.
I used to like Ricky Gervais in his early stand-up shows, but that's only because i though his smug, arrogant, self-satisfied attitude was something he put on for the show. Genuinely thought he was playing a character, like Al Murray's pub landlord.
But isn't Gervais attacking the trans activists as opposed to the trans community?
Making jokes about X isn't "attacking" X. He's funny. You're not. Deal with it.
EXACTLY! Comedians like this guy & James Acaster are failed comedians who need to earn money by virtue signalling to the woke crowd. Fact is if these people were "Minorities" they wouldn't wield so much power & influence.
This geezer ain't funny at all..Ricky you got nothing to worry about fella
If you’re offended don’t watch simple but I did think Gervais’s last show was a little too much trying to shock instead of being clever. Maybe he could have a go a the politics of the U.K. & the insanity of the Tory party similar to how he spoke about Hollywood/celebrities at the golden globes
Ricky Gervais' tragedy is that he is a fantastic writer but he is a hammy actor and an awfully mediocre stand-up. He is so desperate to prove himself as a comedian he carries on doing it when he'd be far better off sticking to making telly. (tho his stuff is a lot weaker whenever Merchant ain't on board tbh)
Meanwhile Lycett: Lazily copying TFI Friday and making it camp.
Gervais at award shows and writing TV shows and on chat shows is great. Gervais stand up is dog dirt. I like edgy comedy done right but he is just doing a previously laughed at greatest hits show. You can't say anything these days people have, most of the time, nothing to say.
'As an industry we've become more interested ... ' Hardly, Joe. Mark Thomas & Jeremy Hardy were activist comedians long before your time.
I miss mark thomas
That one time Mark Thomas drove a tank through aMc Donald’s Drive Through to prove a point that the pavement was public land. Classic Channel 4.
Gervais doesn't attack anyone, he pokes fun at everyone and everything regardless, often highlighting how ridiculous the world has become.
And the regime ''comedians'' hate him for it & those multi - millions of his too of course...
He pokes fun at Twitter for 90 minutes. Not the world, twitter. I don't need Gervais to tell me Twitter is full of morons.
I don't understand how a man considerably funnier than Dave Chappelle has become a pound-shop Dave Chappelle.
I just want to remind Joe that men are not a minority and I can't remember the last time HE was funny.
Is this "haha - trans women are men" but trying to pretend that's not what you are saying? Because last time I looked, trans people are very much a minority. And right now, very much a target of organised hate.
A terf speaks. And makes very little sense. As usual.
@@eightiesmusic1984 what are you having trouble with?
@@hayley7090 I'm having trouble understanding how you think Joe Lycett said that men were a minority.
@@paulhammond6978 Joe Lycett is getting pissy because Ricky Gervais has made jokes about trans women. Trans women are men, men are not a minority.
Lycett is as funny as Jim Davidson. And has the nerve to complain about Gervais. Get back to BBC2 mate
It’s funny because what I think of as comedically weak is people like Joe/michael McIntyre/alan Carr. People who just go on stage and act like idiots. I’d much rather watch material that makes me think and ponder the world. It also seems a bit weird for him to attack comics that make a career out of attacking people when Jimmy Carr basically made him what he is thanks to cats countdown.
You've just lumped three comedians together who have entirely different approaches to comedy ,thereby diluting your already weak point . If you had a point that is .
@@leswatts8422 I don’t need to have a point, as you describe. That is my opinion, which I am entitled to, and you are free to disagree with it, and that’s fine.
You are so deep, maaan
The only thing I tried to watch of Gervais was After Life I managed 10 min at most it was just boring
Nah, that one I loved! For me it had the empathy that Ricky's stand-up lacks.
Agree on this. His last special could have been an add-on to his previous one; ok Ricky we get it; you’re an atheist and tell anti-woke jokes. It wasnt exactly new material. I was disappointed tbh. Chappelles last special was kinda the same.
It’s all just a matter of taste. “Cupid Stunt”
Completely agree with Joe on this - and it's astonishing how the Gervais/Brent influence is still so apparent in comedy, online and offline. It's lazy AF but persuasive, and, comedically, really, really easy - it's Wonderwall comedy
Joe Lycett ripping anybody about not being funny, let alone somebody like Gervais, is ironically the funniest thing he's ever said.
Yes, but Joe would see the joke.
Men aren’t a minority, even when they wear skirts
Especially in Saudi Arabia and Scotland.
And Priest conventions.
Blimey, now i come to think of it more blokes wear skirts globally than trousers, i don't know what these anti trans bigots are so flustered about, they're being silly aren't they 😂
@@jangomoonstomp in the words of the great Pink Floyd Song, ‘Teacher, leave them kids alone’.
Exactly
Comedically weak , describes everything Joe Lycett has done in his career.
Even if true, he's still right about Gervais. Unfortunately.
Who is this Joe Lichen? Is he a comedian?
Well we know you sure ain't!
@@JB_inks Do we? Comedians don't have to be funny anymore.
He's one of these regime ''comedians'' that we're infested with....
@@frankbrennan1619 The one's that aren't funny and only appear on the BBC and Channel 4?
@@telbel4979 tell me more, first time I've heard this. Oh, you mean right wing ones. Yeah, seems so
Gervais is at least funny. Most comedians are just not funny.
Comedic Authority is how I see & why I dislike most Comedians from the U.S. - yet it comes up from everywhere!
Gervais doesn’t attack anyone. He tells jokes, he’s a comedian. Although I do tire of the anti woke jokes he’s been doing recently mainly because that sort of substance just isn’t funny anymore.
I didn't think it was Ricky's best work but the idea that any minorities or the trans community somehow ought to be immune from having jokes told about them irrepspective of what they do is a bit narrow.
I don’t think he’s attacking any community per se. More nuanced than that.
No topic is off limits with comedy and the audience decides what is funny. I feel Joe just didn’t understand the trans jokes with Gervais’ routine which was aimed at the ideology and not individuals.
I enjoy both comics and I enjoyed both recent specials 🤷
Nah I think Gervais' popularity on Netflix says everything it needs to.
There seems to be much more of a market for him than there is for anyone criticising him to be honest. 🤷🏻♂️
So says Joe Lycett.
Birmingham International Airport superstar.
Joe and Rob Beckett are a match made in heaven.
At a meeting of proper comedians they would be supplying the tea and biscuits while contributing NOTHING to the conversation.
They would then get invites to every convention of comedians due to their catering skills.
You're a one trick pony, Joe, and Beckett doesn't even have the benefit of a pony.
Sad but true.
If in your world offensive jokes constitute as being “attacked” than count yourself lucky
*Lycett calling ANY comedian weak is probably the funniest thing he's said... Well the only funny thing he's said. Dudes a woke hack, much like that skidmark on the comedy landscape James Acaster.*
& his faux interest in animal protection is sinister. I dont buy it. I suspect he's trying to mask his narcissism.
Gervais is like the Ed Sheeran of stand-up comedy.
Appeals to the lowest common-denominator.
Bland and predictable.
I’m sure there’s an equal number of people who don’t find Joe funny. Such is life.
Claiming that Gervaise’s humour is only funny because he’s doing it, is a daft statement.
There are a huge number of comics whose jokes are funny primarily because they’re the ones telling the joke.
Some people just don’t know the difference between being laughed at and being laughed with.
Brought to you by the wholesome bunch at HSBC UK. Champions of ESG and CSR. Sigh.
Ricky's last stand up was hilarious, also have no idea who joe lycett is.
I pretty sure Gervais doesn’t “attack” trans people. His point, however unfunny, is that he doesn’t want to be told what to think or say. Don’t tell him his belief in the world is wrong. Seems similar to telling someone trans that their thoughts or what they say or believe is wrong. When did not agreeing mean oppression? Next speaking out against the Israeli government will be conflated with antisemitism…oh wait!
As Joe points out, nobody is telling him what to say or think.
And, he does mock minority groups.
No one has ever said Gervais is oppressing them. Why such an obvious strawman?
Joe's comments here were pretty carefully couched to make this line of criticism misplaced. However, speaking for myself I will absolutely say that the right of trans people to exist in the world safely is not something that is a mere "matter of opinion" that you are allowed to disagree on. That is what oppression is.
@@Shsjier If Gervais is "attacking" trans people for demanding their rights, how is that not oppression ? Don't use terms like strawman if you can't see the depth of a point or are just being one dimensional about it. If you haven't seen the routine that joe is referring to then maybe go watch it so you don't just throw out platitudes.
He actually points out that he himself is not telling Gervais what to say. I am not sure, but confident that Gervais's bits are not about whether Joe Lycett specifically thinks he has the right to joke about trans people. Could be wrong 🤷 @@logant6490
Haha. To which the obvious response “don’t watch it if you don’t like it, Joe”
You won't know you don't like it unless you watch it? Woke people are often criticised for living in a bubble, they venture out of that bubble, expose themselves to different things and have an opinion on it, are still criticised, there's no winning! You can't criticise someone for living in a vacuum and then criticise them when they venture out of it! It's unreasonable
WHAT'S THE MATTER, GUYS, TOOOO CHALLENGING FOR YA?!
Gervais whether you like his comedy or not, shouldn't be told he shouldn't make a certain joke because it might offend someone. Which unfortunately is happening more in stand up comedy. You even have comedy clubs banning certain types of jokes and other stand up comedians making whole bits about how Gervais isn't funny but just a bigot.
He just isn't funny anymore.
@@alana8863 And that's relevant how? I don't find him funny either but that's not the point of my comment.
People do find him funny and you should respect that instead of moaning on twitter that he should be cancelled.
There is a real hypocrisy from conservatives about this though. In a free market, why shouldn't comedy clubs refuse to host a comedian they feel damages their brand?
Also, why can't people complain about him on Twitter? Is that not free speech? Gervais certainly enjoys a lot of free speech and has a huge platform too.
@@kriissyy09ifyhe's not being remotely cancelled. he's being criticized. Dont be a snowflake
What comedy club is banning jokes?
Comedians acts these days are ted talks, boring boring
Intelligence is never boring.
@@ChrisPage68 Regime ''comedians'' are always boring...
Joe is a naval ga2ing huffing puffing eye roller - nothing more. Rickie is a veteran superstar of the comedy circuit, international to boot, though I don't particularly like him, too smart and he knows it. Joe will be forgotten when woke eventually gets flushed to where it belongs. Rickie will still fill large venues, if he wants to leave his island estate, whereas Joe will be queuing up for cutthroat qui2 and talk show slots - wondering why his one act eye rolling routine didn't get him further.
To be fair they did attack him first, but the response has become disproportionate.
Who did?
Who attacked him first?
If you can't see the comedy in woke, you are not really a comedian.
Oh Joe, its called comedy.
Who is Joe Lysett? Only kidding. But who is he?
Says "washbelly"
Says the guy who stole his whole act from Dave Gorman...