This movie has one of the greatest overlooked moments of foreshadowing. When Andy is speaking to Red about Zihuatanejo beach later in the film, red says “Andy that’s just sh***y pipe dreams” (paraphrase). And what did Andy crawl out of to reach his dreams.....
I noticed it the first time I saw it in college when my roommate was watching it. I laughed when he was crawling through the pipe and turned to the roommate and said “That’s funny, shitty pipe dream.” He was kind of upset I noticed that right away and he had seen it a bunch of times and never noticed it. He mostly was upset because he was an A student and I was about to drop out.
The "Redemption" is not Andy's, it is Red's. Andy never lost hope, Red had. To redeem is to give value to something that no longer has any. Red's life was redeemed by Andy. Andy gave him hope, and it eventually paid off. Redemption indeed!
I thought it was interesting the way that the movie shifts from Andy being the main character to Red in the last few scenes after his escape. I recall Benicio Del Toro speaking about how unsure he was that the film Sicario would work because it transitions from Emily Blunt being the main character to his character during the climax scenes. But I think it worked nicely for both!
"Forrest Gump" was a very popular movie and despite the BP nomination, a lot of people didn't discover Shawshank until AFTER the Oscars. Still, I can't say it should have won Best Picture, because there was ANOTHER nominee (not "Forrest Gump") that was not only better, but was in my opinion the best film of the 1990's, and possibly of all time. Need a hint? "I love you, Honey Bunny." "I love you Pumpkin." "Everybody be cool; this is a robbery!" "ANY OF YOU F***ING PRICKS *MOVE*, AND I'LL EXECUTE EVERY MOTHER F***ING LAST ONE OF YOU!!!!" *roll opening credits*
@@TreantmonksTemple "Game Show" was a good film, but I wouldn't say it was robbed of an Oscar. Over the years, people keep talking about "Pulp Fiction" and "Shawshank". Also "Forrest Gump" (and I'm not counting gripes about "Why did this film win instead of...") But "Game Show"? Not so much.
You forget to mention that Red said there is no sense in playing the harmonica in prison because it symbolizes having hope. The music when Red is looking for the rock wall is symphonic UNTIL red sees the rock wall and the tree and you'll hear the harmonica start to play symbolizing that hope is beginning to grow in Red.
Yeah I actually thought that when the film came out . More specifically the shoes. The suit did look a little short though but before the days of social media no one would have really cared. Movie magic.
Also surprised you didn’t call out the quote Morgan Freeman’s Red says in regards to why people call him “red”, “Maybe it’s because I’m Irish”. In the book the character was a red headed Irishman. The quote in the movie is a nod to that.
Couple more: - The wooden pillars in the apartment that Brooks hangs himself from resemble prison bars, further illustrating his institutionalization. - When Red is out of prison and finds Andy’s money/note in the field, he looks over his shoulder twice to make sure no one sees him, despite the fact that he is in the middle of nowhere (i.e., another subtle nod to the lingering effects of institutionalization).
The bird call that makes Red wary enough to check his surroundings for prying eyes is highly effective at instilling that sort of chilling feeling as though you're being watched. I did a little research and found out that the bird sound heard is the cactus wren, native to the southwestern US and Mexico. I don't know if that's just the sound production folks being lazy (it's used a *lot* in movie scenes set in a desert) or are they being rather clever...after all, a bird from Mexico (where "jailbird" Andy has escaped to) has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield (any more than a chunk of black volcanic glass does).
It was great, but the best? I’m sure the director would give that honor to the shot behind Fred Derry looking out of the B-17 bomber in Best Years of our Lives … Or the opening shot from The Searchers.
I did literally watch it every day for almost two years. My girlfriend could not go to sleep without something on the television, so we would put on Shawshank Redemption every night at bedtime. The end credits were my lullaby, lol.
The old man holding on to to the bar in front of him on the bus after he gets out is the same thing they are made to do while in transit while incarcerated. He is still doing it after he is out. Truly institutionalized.
So sad that the ASPCA is worried about the suffering of a maggot, but never gives a thought to suffering children,or the suffering babies go through when being aborted. .f@ck them
What a classic film. If I'm switching channels and seeing it's playing I almost always stop and watch. "Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."
Plumber here. Most waste pipe works on gravity. This means that the pipe would be empty unless somebody flushed. Also I’d imagine the pipe would be open to the atmosphere thus not under pressure so wouldn’t splurge out when Andy smashes it.
Dude aside from that how in the hell did even fit into that pipe to begin with? You can clearly see the hole is barely big enough for him to stick his head through lol yet he manages to fit his entire body through that hole? Unless he's houdini its just not possible. Thats why after that scene, it cuts to him already crawling though the pipe.
“I am constantly analysing movies” *fails to understand that The Shawshank Redemption isn’t Andys redemption but Reds* Andy doesn’t change, he doesn’t have a character arc, he’s there to change the characters around him. Things come close to changing Andys beliefs that hope is a good thing and we all need hope (boggs, the warden) however it’s Red who has the 3 act character arc - he goes from not believing in hope as he’s stuck in prison to finally believing in hope as he gets out of prison
Andy also did change. Before prison his wife said he was hard to read. He opened up a lot in prison. He really let people in and gave back. He broke the rules when before he had never committed a crime. He also got redemption in the form of financial freedom and the ability to reclaim his life.
As a plumber the problem in the sewer pipe scene isn't the level of sewage he is crawling though. The problem is that sewer pipes don't hold liquid under pressure, (unless there is a pump which didn't happen in that era) so the shit fountain would not happen, but the internal level would be accurate. Also the pipes tend to get bigger as you get closer to the end.
Yeah spot on bud. The reason for the shit fountain is just for effect. Since it is a movie it would be boring if something didn't happen when he broke the pipe. Mostly reality goes through the window when a cool shot happens.
Well I guess that depends on whether the "sewer" was also taking rainwater away from the roof? But either way, the gasses in a pipe that narrow would've suffocated Andy long before he made the distance.
I'd say 18 things you somehow missed, 2 things you probably didn't know. How many of us really took the time to learn about the taxman or the organization he works for?
I have to disagree with the aging part. They may have *underdone* it depending on how old the characters are supposed to be, but there are definitely indicators that they have aged. Andy's eyesight, for one. Red's hair starts greying. Even the other guys are given some aging effects.
Correct, especially the scene where Warden Norton is telling Andy to shine his shoes the night when he escapes. Dufresne has many visible gray hairs he didn’t have when arriving.
Right. People age at different rates depending on their stage in life. I am 59 years old. I do not look any older than when I was 40. (I have old ID photos to prove it.)
He always said 'Smokes or coins, betters' choice'. While everyone else in the gang (except for that younger guy) seems to be smoking, Red, Andy and Brooks seem to be nonsmokers.
My theory on why they don’t age is because Red and Andy are now in Mexico and Red is telling it as a story. Because there was no way Red could have known Andy called through the sewer without Andy telling him it’s his memories of him being in Shawshank
There’s A deleted scene in the movie where a guard goes through the whole Andy Dug and goes into the pipe he calls out and discovers that it’s a sewage pipe and he screaming in terror that he is in shit and red is laughing hysterically at this. So red knows that’s how he got out through the sewage pipe
My explanation is that the not-aging is metaphorical. Andy walks through the yard like a man strolling in the park. He doesn't let this place get to him. He doesn't let it kill the spirit inside him. And so he stays young. Doesn't explain why none of the other characters age, though.
There's a reason why I keep this in arm's length on my DVD Shelf. I don't know the best part is either when Andy escapes behind the tunnel he created using the poster or when the warden blows his brains out to avoid arrest. Either way, I know I must have watched it hundreds of times by now, and I'm still not sick and tired of the movie. It doesn't hurt that the narrator is Morgan Freeman , and he has a role in the movie as well.
My favorite little nod is the reading of the rights when the police come for the guard and warden. You'll see the arresting officer reading the rights off a piece of paper. That is because it was a new procedure at the time of the arrest.
I’ll never forget how I’d think of this movie when I was dealing with depression. I think a lot of people view this movie that way. As an escape plan from certain woes in life. I learned to appreciate its themes and it’s characters. It’s a simple story but a relatable one in some ways. The music is what fucking gets me every time. That last shot as Andy is flying down the coast in a convertible and the piano twinkles and you can hear wind chimes. Fucking hits me every damn time. “I hope I get to see my friend.”
Obviously loyalty to friends is a theme in this movie. However, that reminds me of the line in Stand by Me where (paraphased) the narrator asks whether we ever have friends like the ones we have when we're kids? I think it's possible to make great friends as an adult, so don't despair if you're feeling lonely.
This is the only movie, out of the hundreds that I have seen, that I remember where in the theater I was sitting after watching the trailer when I thought, I've got to see this movie. I even remember where I was sitting. It is the only movie of which I have three legal copies. It is and, I suspect, will always be the best movie I have ever seen.
The smart thing they did from changing this from the book was not to tell what Red did to land in prison (he killed his wife when he was in his 20's) and kill Tommy (It was more impactful and made the Warden that much more evil). Also I think this is one of the few movies where the happy ending was earned. In the book Red is just one the bus going to Mexico (it is a well know joke that King never know how to end his stories, he liked the change). This movie was robbed at The Oscars (yes it was and is better then Forest Gump)
Yes, it is better than Forest Gump but this is a problem with the Oscars - great movies often take time to fully take in and appreciate while the Oscars are awarded in March to movies most of which were released in Nov and Dec of the prior year.
I always felt since the first time I saw it that the story was intended to end with Red on his way to a new adventure with an uncertain future but hope filling his heart, and that the reunion scene was sort of slapped on. It doesn't ruin the ending, it's just a little incongruent. Darabont made some similar changes to The Green Mile. Eduard Delacroix seems far more worthy of sympathy when they don't tell you he's on the Mile for raping a girl, killing her, then trying to cover his crime by dousing the body with coal oil and setting it on fire...which ends up burning down a building and killing several others in the process. I will also put forth that this edit very slightly puts things out-of-kilter with the themes in the story; much like how John Coffey pulls death and disease from people (and mice) and releases them to disperse like a sinister cloud of shadowy insects, King also treats whatever drove Del to commit his crimes as something that infected/possessed him but vacated and moved on afterward, leaving just a meek little Cajun man incapable of such evil to pay the price. This makes Coffey pulling the tumor out of Melinda Moores and then using whatever shadowy force comprised it to prompt Percy Whetmore to murder William Wharton make a little bit more sense.
Red tells Andy that his thoughts of escaping are just shitty pipe dreams. Then Andy escapes, literally, through a shitty pipe. Mind blown. Took me probably over 100 view of this film (my favorite BTW) to notice that.
Also, when the picture is shown of the police holding up the articles that Andy leaves behind in the creek, the guy holding the stick was Tim Robbins's stunt double.
If Andy's cell is the last one in the row,where does Brooks go after giving Andy his book ??? He keeps pushing his cart as if there's more cells past Andy's.....
I'd say those anachronisms were deliberately done on the audiences behalf as IRS and tax return filing date are what a modern audience would expect them to be.
Why Shawshank Redemption is so good ? Because it has many subplots which can be turned into movies . Feelings after watching this masterpiece can't be described in words
The main thing that stands out to me is how INCREDIBLY lucky Andy was, that his cell was located at the end of a block, and that he didn't just end up tunnelling into the adjacent cell. You might say he earned this luck given the massive miscarriage of justice!
I saw it at the cinema back in the day when it was first released. A moving experience that's for sure and although it didn't do so well in terms of box office takings (here in the UK at least) I'm glad I saw this masterpiece on the big screen. And I'll never forget my mate's girlfriend shouting out "BASTARD!" when the Warden Norton had Tommy shot 😮😁
On top of all the reasons we like this movie so much, I have one more, the Bank Manager (when Andy gets some money and mails the financial records to a newspaper reporter) was my High School History teacher in the 60's. A fantastic teacher and an outstanding person, Jim Kisicki.
Agreed 👍 A couple years back my then girlfriend told me she'd got tickets to see it at a local theatre. I assumed, as this isn't uncommon in my experience, it was the theatre showing the movie on a temporary big screen on the stage. When we arrived at the theatre and were waiting for drinks in the foyer I clocked several posters on the walls promoting up coming shows, and sure enough there was The Shawshank Redemption. After glancing at it for a second or two something seemed off about it. Then I thought, "hey that isn't Tim Robbins...and that isn't Morgan Freeman either". It only took a couple more seconds for the penny to drop and me figure that we were there to see a live stage production of the movie 🙄 Unfortunately I voiced a lot of this thought process and my then girlfriend thought it was hilarious that I'd got it all wrong. From that moment on I vowed to pay more attention to what she was saying!! Didn't do much good though I guess given that she's now an ex 😁
Let me get this straight; The director had absolute faith in Tim Robbins ability to act for the entire movie, but was unsure if he could load a pistol? Billy Corgan complex.
They probably had finished principle photography for the film and calling Tim Robbins back to film that one scene loading the gun would have cost the studio more than the shot was worth. my guess.
He's "The only guilty man in Shawshank" because in the short story, Red tried to murder his unfaithful wife by fixing the brakes on her car. It worked. Unfortunately, his wife had a friend and her little boy as passengers, and everyone died.
Fun fact: The role of Andy Dufresne was originally offered to Tom Hanks, who couldn't accept due to scheduling conflicts with Forrest Gump (1994). Hanks did, however, work on Frank Darabont's next film, The Green Mile (1999), also an adaptation of a Stephen King novel, which takes place in a prison.
What you left out was that when Andy dropped the incriminating evidence at the bank. The warden read the paper the morning of Andy’s escape after having found the old shoes and cut out bible, then heard sirens. Andy asked the woman at the bank to add the evidence to their outgoing mail. The newspaper and cops wouldn’t have received the mail till the next day. So the time line was off by a day.
I made an appointment with my son who is 28 years old to watch shawshank redemption. He had never seen it. We spent Sunday watching the film he was moved. Today he sent me your video ❤ty
The gusher from the sewer is the inaccurate part not the drained sewer. In the middle of the night the sewer would likely be almost empty. I've worked on sewers that size and seen them break. Even when full they don't splash like that unless they're plugged up and the "water" is backed up.
I’ve recommended this movie to many and they are never disappointed. Another great movie I discovered years ago while channel surfing on a snowy day was “The Man Who Would Be King” with Sean Connery,Michael Caine and Christopher Plummer.
Live about 15 miles from Manci aka Shawshank so this was a big deal for us locally...the Bank at the end of the Movie is still here and the vault door inside the bank is quite old and is one of the coolest. The business seen out the front window is Picideli news stand.. The bus station where Red got his ticket is part of the old Myers building offices and the brand new building seen across the street DCHS had to be blurred out because of the sparkling new handrail that was in the shot. The laundry scenes we also shot in our town where most of the outside shots outside of the prison where shot in the upper eastern part of the US... Massachusetts or Maine... not sure which.
Geeeee folks..you can find faults in almost every movie...but you have to admit this is one of the best films ever made.The ending is totally amazing.CHEERS all.
As far as the aging goes, maybe I’m seeing things, but certain shots do seem to have Andy, Red and The Warden with more grey hair and different hair styles towards the later years (about the time Tommy arrives). I don’t think it was meant to be drastic and realistic but just subtle detail to show at least some time passage. Andy is also seen wearing glasses later on which is about the same time you can notice this. Again, it could just be inconsistent make up, scenes shot out of order, or just the lighting, but it seems like it’s definitely there.
Regarding the sewer pipe: since it was open on one end it actually would already be drained (as in the film). When Andy knocked a hole in it nothing should have come out, least of all a fountain of “water.”
John there is no pressure in the pipe because its open at one end so no matter how much flow that is going through the pipe it wouldn't burst like that. Think of it like a can of pop. When its closed the sides are all hard due to pressure so when you pierce the side it would shoot out but, if you open the can you realise pressure
And small washers taped to bottom backside corners could easily act as weights to drop edges back down. I used two pennies as a child to hide things behind a poster.
One thing you definitely missed in the 18 things we somehow missed in the Shawshank redemption summary video: You ended the video saying ‘there are the 20 things you missed’, when the title is 18. Check mate.
In the driving scene after Andy's escape, I'm always amazed how, in 1966, he was able to get his hands on a 1969 GTO. The album Heywood was listening to in the library in 1963 wasn't released until the early 70's. Also, the Mozart that Andy played over the loudspeaker in 1955 was recorded in 1968.
I’ve loved the Red saying “all it takes is pressure and time” the geological process to create rock, and Andy’s use of a rock hammer to chisel his escape tunnel.
I always liked the fact that he hid the rock hammer at the book of Exodus. This is a story about the Israelites gaining freedom from slavery, just like Andy escaping from prison. I also liked how the Warden discovered that, because he would talk about the Bible, but failed to live up to it.
The movie was shot at Mansfield Ohio’s condemned max security prison. I know as I was there (the prison, not the shoot). The lunch hall, the movie theater, etc were all authentic to that prison. Where other parts were shot I do not know.
Consider the piping Andy crawls through. It's obviously a storm drain, not a sanitary sewer, which most certainly would not drain into a creek. The pipe he breaks with the rock or whatever would most likely be made of clay, with is plausible, but that would be rainwater, not raw sewage gushing out.
The sewer pipe is easy to explain- it is no longer used. Andy also escapes when it is raining, so a sewage pipe would not fill with sewage as water would be running through it
15: well remember the movie takes place over twenty years. Many scenes don't take place in close amounts of time, so theoretically many of the background prisoners can come and go, either released/killed, and newbies come in.
Hi plumber here , the pipe has an open end he wouldn't have been swimming due to the open end indicating lack of pressure and the fall off necessary to draw sewage away , his breaking the pipe wouldn't have blown up in his face though and every time someone flushed you have a bad time
I can't believe how apperantly most have missed, or didn't mentioned the "biggest" hidden messages in this movie. It's when the warden realize his game is up and looks at his wallsafe, with his wife needle point "His Judgement Cometh and That Right Soon..."
@@mikespearwood3914 Well, you know how people are... My mother in law still smiles and says "thank you" despite the messages I've written so far in her pudding, during sunday dinner.
Another cool thing is the cell block was completely made from scratch in an old rundown warehouse with a air system set up to open and close the cell doors. The same cells were also used in The Green Mile.
During the library scene, these guys have shown they are uneducated. So for Red to say 500 yards is just shy of half a mile, is playing on the character’s horrible math. This line is legit
What's interesting about prison movies, is that the prisoners tend to be the good guys, and the Warden with his guards are the bad guys. Movies like Shawshank Redemption, Escape from Alcatraz, Lock-up (with Stallone), and the Longest Yard (both versions with Burt Reynolds and Adam Sandler). There is typically a prisoner who is the protagonist, and the Warden, the antagonist, is either mean or corrupt, while the guards are his henchmen. The protagonist prisoner typically wins in the end.
So you're not going to mention how small that hole was in that pipe andys head could barely fit through but he managed to fit his 6 foot 5 body frame through. One of my favorite movies
There’s a ‘movie mistake’ or logic gap that bothers me every time. Am I alone? Andy is MUCH taller than the warden. No way would his suit fit him and most likely shoes as well.
@@rykerhayward8606 no he appeared much taller and the 3” difference would still make his the bottom of the suit legs to appear as high waters. He appeared much taller than pretty much everyone in the film, especially the warden. I guess you watched a different movie. Red even mentioned his height.
Something that one might also look over is that when Tommy is murdered by Hadley, the weapon used is an M14. This was at a time when the M14 was not in use as a standard issue rifle for any service and it is much more likely that the guards would have had recycled weapons of WWII vintage such as the M1 Garand, definitely the M1 carbine, probably the even earlier Springfield 1906 model or some varation of a Remington bolt action rifle.
Actually, it was in use from ‘58-59 to ‘65-66 and back then was common to utilize current military arms in prisons. Sometimes older stuff too though so...either way is possible
I would think anyone with a Sunday school level of biblical knowledge got that Exodus one. It's hard to miss and is one of the more significant books of the Old Testament. Heck, even if you knew little to nothing of the Bible it doesn't take much to guess the word Exodus is related to an exit.
Ah but did you pick up on the scene towards middle/end when the warden is giving a public speech about their prison reform... he’s actually wearing transition lenses in his glasses, and I’m certain they didn’t have those back then either.
As a math geek, I noticed the 500 yards error immediately. You might also point out how ridiculous it was that Brooksy thought he could release Jake the crow into the wild and it could survive after being hand- fed all its life.
As someone who has actually done time, I totally understand Andy and Red not aging something about being locked up preserves you so im ok with that one, reading some of the other comments makes me sad I love the movie but damn there are of mistakes made in this film, lest just love it for what it is and don't think about the mistakes to much
The story is narrated by Red, who is old, and might have a spotty memory... All plot holes now fixed
That and also it's explained more in the novella.
Sounds good to me. No one is ruining my favorite movie.
"Unreliable narrator". Often used as a plot device, or even just to excuse inconsistencies. Totally agree with you, JC.
"A wizard did it."
Guess that happens when we have “two or three marbles rolling around upstairs”
This movie has one of the greatest overlooked moments of foreshadowing. When Andy is speaking to Red about Zihuatanejo beach later in the film, red says “Andy that’s just sh***y pipe dreams” (paraphrase). And what did Andy crawl out of to reach his dreams.....
I watched this movie countless times and I NEVER caught that
I noticed it the first time I saw it in college when my roommate was watching it. I laughed when he was crawling through the pipe and turned to the roommate and said “That’s funny, shitty pipe dream.” He was kind of upset I noticed that right away and he had seen it a bunch of times and never noticed it. He mostly was upset because he was an A student and I was about to drop out.
missed that one.
Dang! Good one! Totally missed that one. Whoosh! 🙄😇😂👍
@@crowtservo haha, you know why
The "Redemption" is not Andy's, it is Red's. Andy never lost hope, Red had. To redeem is to give value to something that no longer has any. Red's life was redeemed by Andy. Andy gave him hope, and it eventually paid off. Redemption indeed!
The prison itself was redeemed as well, of course...
That's a really cool take. I had never thought of that.
Also, they were lovers.
Cool man.
@DA BOUL BLACKLUNGZ Love is love 💪🏽
I love the dual character perspective. Andy is portrayed as the main character, and the story is told in Red’s point of view.
I thought it was interesting the way that the movie shifts from Andy being the main character to Red in the last few scenes after his escape. I recall Benicio Del Toro speaking about how unsure he was that the film Sicario would work because it transitions from Emily Blunt being the main character to his character during the climax scenes. But I think it worked nicely for both!
Big part in the book about just that. Red says you might think he's not the main character in his story, but then insists he is.
The fact that this movie didn't get one single Oscar is beyond me :(
Can't believe it never won an Oscar the mind boggles
"Forrest Gump" was a very popular movie and despite the BP nomination, a lot of people didn't discover Shawshank until AFTER the Oscars. Still, I can't say it should have won Best Picture, because there was ANOTHER nominee (not "Forrest Gump") that was not only better, but was in my opinion the best film of the 1990's, and possibly of all time.
Need a hint?
"I love you, Honey Bunny."
"I love you Pumpkin."
"Everybody be cool; this is a robbery!"
"ANY OF YOU F***ING PRICKS *MOVE*, AND I'LL EXECUTE EVERY MOTHER F***ING LAST ONE OF YOU!!!!"
*roll opening credits*
It was an unusually good year for movies. Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Game Show, Shawshank Redemption...all deserved oscars.
Props to shawshank tim robins and mr freeman, one of the best movies of all time.
@@TreantmonksTemple "Game Show" was a good film, but I wouldn't say it was robbed of an Oscar. Over the years, people keep talking about "Pulp Fiction" and "Shawshank". Also "Forrest Gump" (and I'm not counting gripes about "Why did this film win instead of...") But "Game Show"? Not so much.
You forget to mention that Red said there is no sense in playing the harmonica in prison because it symbolizes having hope. The music when Red is looking for the rock wall is symphonic UNTIL red sees the rock wall and the tree and you'll hear the harmonica start to play symbolizing that hope is beginning to grow in Red.
brilliant
i love symbolism. thank you for that
Great insight. Hafta' look for that next watch.
Yesss
Why doesn’t anyone ever mention the warden’s suit fitting Andy so well? Dufresne is a foot taller than the warden. That’s almost half a mile.
Yeah I actually thought that when the film came out . More specifically the shoes. The suit did look a little short though but before the days of social media no one would have really cared. Movie magic.
It does not... The pants are short...
Can be seen in the bank scene after
Not to mention the larger shoe size of Andy's feet. Oh well, I chose to ignore those things at the time.
@@thedoctor8240 the jacket isn’t.
Yes and what about the shoes.
Also surprised you didn’t call out the quote Morgan Freeman’s Red says in regards to why people call him “red”, “Maybe it’s because I’m Irish”. In the book the character was a red headed Irishman. The quote in the movie is a nod to that.
His mugshot, howver, reveals that his name is
Redding
And because it was hilarious.
good one
That's pretty much the most well-known thing though, so not really an interesting thing to put on the video.
Couple more:
- The wooden pillars in the apartment that Brooks hangs himself from resemble prison bars, further illustrating his institutionalization.
- When Red is out of prison and finds Andy’s money/note in the field, he looks over his shoulder twice to make sure no one sees him, despite the fact that he is in the middle of nowhere (i.e., another subtle nod to the lingering effects of institutionalization).
I noticed the second one you mentioned several times while watching the movie.
The bird call that makes Red wary enough to check his surroundings for prying eyes is highly effective at instilling that sort of chilling feeling as though you're being watched.
I did a little research and found out that the bird sound heard is the cactus wren, native to the southwestern US and Mexico. I don't know if that's just the sound production folks being lazy (it's used a *lot* in movie scenes set in a desert) or are they being rather clever...after all, a bird from Mexico (where "jailbird" Andy has escaped to) has no earthly business being in a Maine hayfield (any more than a chunk of black volcanic glass does).
Golly Gee... I looked in the mirror this morning and discovered I now have "Brooks Hatlen Syndrome"
The end shot of the camera pulling back from Andy and Red to the wide angle shot of the ocean, is one of my favorite all-time scenes in movie history.
I agree, but the last shot George Lucas's masterpiece "Thx 1138", can never be topped. ;)
It was great, but the best? I’m sure the director would give that honor to the shot behind Fred Derry looking out of the B-17 bomber in Best Years of our Lives … Or the opening shot from The Searchers.
For real man i got goosebumps
I just love this movie. Doesn’t matter the mistakes. I can watch it every day.
Right. Why is that. I can literally watch it anytime it’s on. It has the best pacing it just pulls your right through to the end.
I can watch it everyday too
I have watched this movie so many times, don't remember. This is one of the best movies ever!!
I did literally watch it every day for almost two years. My girlfriend could not go to sleep without something on the television, so we would put on Shawshank Redemption every night at bedtime. The end credits were my lullaby, lol.
One of the greatest movies in history. You can watch it over and over again and still never get tired of it.
The old man holding on to to the bar in front of him on the bus after he gets out is the same thing they are made to do while in transit while incarcerated. He is still doing it after he is out. Truly institutionalized.
Didn't know that...all I see is how terrified he looks!
@@majerstud yeah that's how I took it as well.
Nice catch! 👍
My mother was the animal trainer / wrangler for Shawshank. The maggot fact is absolutely true.
So sad that the ASPCA is worried about the suffering of a maggot, but never gives a thought to suffering children,or the suffering babies go through when being aborted. .f@ck them
wow, cool, cuz that was hard to believe they’d actually go find a dead one ☺️
Equal rights for maggots!
For goodness sake, birds are fed with live maggots every day - that has to be the most RIDICULOUS THING I'VE EVER HEARD!!!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
What a classic film. If I'm switching channels and seeing it's playing I almost always stop and watch.
"Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."
Thats the exact new terminology used to describe your actions. Shawshanked LOL
Plumber here. Most waste pipe works on gravity. This means that the pipe would be empty unless somebody flushed. Also I’d imagine the pipe would be open to the atmosphere thus not under pressure so wouldn’t splurge out when Andy smashes it.
If it did splurge it would still be full and the space behind the cell would be flooded.
@@donnienicholson6062 Right, and that would also mean the pipe is seriously clogged.
Dude aside from that how in the hell did even fit into that pipe to begin with? You can clearly see the hole is barely big enough for him to stick his head through lol yet he manages to fit his entire body through that hole? Unless he's houdini its just not possible. Thats why after that scene, it cuts to him already crawling though the pipe.
Prolly had roots through it and it would hold water?
would there be gases in there, and should he be alive? that long?
“I am constantly analysing movies”
*fails to understand that The Shawshank Redemption isn’t Andys redemption but Reds*
Andy doesn’t change, he doesn’t have a character arc, he’s there to change the characters around him. Things come close to changing Andys beliefs that hope is a good thing and we all need hope (boggs, the warden) however it’s Red who has the 3 act character arc - he goes from not believing in hope as he’s stuck in prison to finally believing in hope as he gets out of prison
Andy also did change. Before prison his wife said he was hard to read. He opened up a lot in prison. He really let people in and gave back. He broke the rules when before he had never committed a crime. He also got redemption in the form of financial freedom and the ability to reclaim his life.
Shut up. It was clearly about Andy and also Red
As a plumber the problem in the sewer pipe scene isn't the level of sewage he is crawling though.
The problem is that sewer pipes don't hold liquid under pressure, (unless there is a pump which didn't happen in that era)
so the shit fountain would not happen, but the internal level would be accurate. Also the pipes tend to get bigger as you get closer to the end.
Yeah spot on bud. The reason for the shit fountain is just for effect. Since it is a movie it would be boring if something didn't happen when he broke the pipe. Mostly reality goes through the window when a cool shot happens.
Maybe everyone just flushed at the same time. lol
Well I guess that depends on whether the "sewer" was also taking rainwater away from the roof? But either way, the gasses in a pipe that narrow would've suffocated Andy long before he made the distance.
@@Orion40000,
I had wondered that.
"Why Andy chose enchilada night to escape is beyond me."
-CB
Title:
18 Things You Somehow Missed In The Shawshank Redemption
Conclusion: 20 Things You Somehow Missed In The Shawshank Redemption
I guess we are still missing two...
I'd say 18 things you somehow missed, 2 things you probably didn't know. How many of us really took the time to learn about the taxman or the organization he works for?
Maybe we're just nitpicking
The connection between Stand By Me and The Shawshank Redemption is incorrect as well.
Geordie boy, taking the piss
😊
I have to disagree with the aging part. They may have *underdone* it depending on how old the characters are supposed to be, but there are definitely indicators that they have aged. Andy's eyesight, for one. Red's hair starts greying. Even the other guys are given some aging effects.
I love the details of all prisoners getting presbyopia, very evident when they're reading title books for the library, reminds me of my parents!
Correct, especially the scene where Warden Norton is telling Andy to shine his shoes the night when he escapes. Dufresne has many visible gray hairs he didn’t have when arriving.
Right. People age at different rates depending on their stage in life. I am 59 years old. I do not look any older than when I was 40. (I have old ID photos to prove it.)
Red doesn't smoke because cigarettes are currency, if anyone is going to know the value of a pack it's going to be the fixer.
Never get high off your own supply.
@@truthhurts837 Dude, I clicked on this just to say that exact line. I was hoping that one other comment wasn't stealing mine.
Prick. 😂
Exactly!
@@libradawg9lol that's exactly what I was going to do too
He always said 'Smokes or coins, betters' choice'. While everyone else in the gang (except for that younger guy) seems to be smoking, Red, Andy and Brooks seem to be nonsmokers.
The only thing that bothered me was how Andy crawled through a crap pipe yet came out with a white T-shirt.
Hahaha
He landed in a water ground so it washed
That river is kind of like a baptism, cleaning away all his past. 💩
One of the greatest movies of all time hands down👍
My theory on why they don’t age is because Red and Andy are now in Mexico and Red is telling it as a story. Because there was no way Red could have known Andy called through the sewer without Andy telling him it’s his memories of him being in Shawshank
Great Point!!
Oh wow, good point. I never thought of that.
There’s A deleted scene in the movie where a guard goes through the whole Andy Dug and goes into the pipe he calls out and discovers that it’s a sewage pipe and he screaming in terror that he is in shit and red is laughing hysterically at this. So red knows that’s how he got out through the sewage pipe
My explanation is that the not-aging is metaphorical. Andy walks through the yard like a man strolling in the park. He doesn't let this place get to him. He doesn't let it kill the spirit inside him. And so he stays young.
Doesn't explain why none of the other characters age, though.
So doesn’t really work then.Stand in the corner.
There's a reason why I keep this in arm's length on my DVD Shelf. I don't know the best part is either when Andy escapes behind the tunnel he created using the poster or when the warden blows his brains out to avoid arrest. Either way, I know I must have watched it hundreds of times by now, and I'm still not sick and tired of the movie. It doesn't hurt that the narrator is Morgan Freeman , and he has a role in the movie as well.
My favorite little nod is the reading of the rights when the police come for the guard and warden.
You'll see the arresting officer reading the rights off a piece of paper.
That is because it was a new procedure at the time of the arrest.
I’ll never forget how I’d think of this movie when I was dealing with depression. I think a lot of people view this movie that way. As an escape plan from certain woes in life. I learned to appreciate its themes and it’s characters. It’s a simple story but a relatable one in some ways. The music is what fucking gets me every time. That last shot as Andy is flying down the coast in a convertible and the piano twinkles and you can hear wind chimes. Fucking hits me every damn time.
“I hope I get to see my friend.”
Obviously loyalty to friends is a theme in this movie. However, that reminds me of the line in Stand by Me where (paraphased) the narrator asks whether we ever have friends like the ones we have when we're kids? I think it's possible to make great friends as an adult, so don't despair if you're feeling lonely.
This is the only movie, out of the hundreds that I have seen, that I remember where in the theater I was sitting after watching the trailer when I thought, I've got to see this movie. I even remember where I was sitting. It is the only movie of which I have three legal copies. It is and, I suspect, will always be the best movie I have ever seen.
Always a toss-up for me...TSSR or Blade Runner (the original version). I've seen them both so many times now...
I almost lived Andys part and has a rather deep meaning for me.
dnsmithnc I am not as big a fan of the movie as you but when its on I am strangely drawn to watch it...maybe I am as big a fan :-)
I always stop whatever I am doing if I stumble on it. One of the few. Love it. Great cast.
Exactly the same here. Well said sir!
The smart thing they did from changing this from the book was not to tell what Red did to land in prison (he killed his wife when he was in his 20's) and kill Tommy (It was more impactful and made the Warden that much more evil). Also I think this is one of the few movies where the happy ending was earned. In the book Red is just one the bus going to Mexico (it is a well know joke that King never know how to end his stories, he liked the change).
This movie was robbed at The Oscars (yes it was and is better then Forest Gump)
Yes, it is better than Forest Gump but this is a problem with the Oscars - great movies often take time to fully take in and appreciate while the Oscars are awarded in March to movies most of which were released in Nov and Dec of the prior year.
I always felt since the first time I saw it that the story was intended to end with Red on his way to a new adventure with an uncertain future but hope filling his heart, and that the reunion scene was sort of slapped on. It doesn't ruin the ending, it's just a little incongruent.
Darabont made some similar changes to The Green Mile. Eduard Delacroix seems far more worthy of sympathy when they don't tell you he's on the Mile for raping a girl, killing her, then trying to cover his crime by dousing the body with coal oil and setting it on fire...which ends up burning down a building and killing several others in the process. I will also put forth that this edit very slightly puts things out-of-kilter with the themes in the story; much like how John Coffey pulls death and disease from people (and mice) and releases them to disperse like a sinister cloud of shadowy insects, King also treats whatever drove Del to commit his crimes as something that infected/possessed him but vacated and moved on afterward, leaving just a meek little Cajun man incapable of such evil to pay the price. This makes Coffey pulling the tumor out of Melinda Moores and then using whatever shadowy force comprised it to prompt Percy Whetmore to murder William Wharton make a little bit more sense.
Red tells Andy that his thoughts of escaping are just shitty pipe dreams. Then Andy escapes, literally, through a shitty pipe. Mind blown. Took me probably over 100 view of this film (my favorite BTW) to notice that.
Also, when the picture is shown of the police holding up the articles that Andy leaves behind in the creek, the guy holding the stick was Tim Robbins's stunt double.
Stick? Wasn’t he holding up the rock hammer?
Guy with stick is holding up his found wet prison uniform
😂🤣😂
If Andy's cell is the last one in the row,where does Brooks go after giving Andy his book ??? He keeps pushing his cart as if there's more cells past Andy's.....
you watched cinema sins video ah haha
Oh, that's on another video? I was about to comment "Nice catch"...Nevermind.
@@russ7868 haha
Maybe the balcony stretches round the wall to the cells on the other side?
Possible.....
IRS was created in 52.right around the time he did the Moresby guards' returns. pick that nit Adam! 😋
I'd say those anachronisms were deliberately done on the audiences behalf as IRS and tax return filing date are what a modern audience would expect them to be.
Haha😁
If you're watching this movie and you're not from the USA you wouldn't notice or care about those details.
Ok technically speaking you are correct, but prior to 52 it was called the bureau of internal revenue.
Why Shawshank Redemption is so good ? Because it has many subplots which can be turned into movies . Feelings after watching this masterpiece can't be described in words
Sure it can. “That was a good movie.” Or, “wow, what a well written and acted film.”
Mubasshir Aal If you haven't seen "The Green Mile" you should watch it. It's another Stephen King jail movie with Tom Hanks in it. Great movie.
@@josephbrown5460 Yeah man I watched it
But I don't want to watch it again . You know right
Watch The Majestic too
Red said he was bad at math though so the 500 yards thing isn't really shocking
Making him the prison bookie probably wasn't the best choice.
Yeah, but crawling 500 yards through literal shit.
You missed one: Andy was in Shawshank Prison for 19 years and the number 19 is significant in the Dark Tower series.
True but how Stephen King wrote it Andy was in prison for almost 30 years.
@@brandoncard5586 so it was the director who tied it into the Dark Tower...
@@honolulublues5548 yup
Why Andy chose enchilada night, I'll never know....
Now that is funnnnnnnyyyy!!!!!!
@@keithfritz6280 It's from The "Family Guy" spoof of Shawshank. It's on RUclips too by the way 😉
So no one told you life was gonna be this waaaayyyyyyyyy
I was going to quote Cleveland Brown's narration, too. Glad someone else appreciates that classic episode.
@@nancymontgomery8897 "Two things happened after that, Boggs never walked again and Andy's farts never made a sound". 😏
You're forgiven. None of this takes away from how good the movie is.
The stamp font for Reds “REJECTED” stamp in the 40s is Helvetica, which wasn’t invented until 57’.
Thanks a lot. Now I can never watch the movie again...
For the file of Red's first rejection, (The youngest) it's actually a picture of Morgan Freeman's son.
If that's true, you're a badass.
@@SteveLeicht1 google it bro.
@@bradenmeyer7465 I meant it as a compliment...incredible attention to detail.
The main thing that stands out to me is how INCREDIBLY lucky Andy was, that his cell was located at the end of a block, and that he didn't just end up tunnelling into the adjacent cell. You might say he earned this luck given the massive miscarriage of justice!
Why andy kept that cell for 20yrs, you would have to read the book to know about that
I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have tunnelled into a neighbouring cell. The guy was intelligent after all 😂
This did happen in The Count of Monte Christo.
Only watched this for the first time a few months ago. Loved it.
I saw it at the cinema back in the day when it was first released. A moving experience that's for sure and although it didn't do so well in terms of box office takings (here in the UK at least) I'm glad I saw this masterpiece on the big screen. And I'll never forget my mate's girlfriend shouting out "BASTARD!" when the Warden Norton had Tommy shot 😮😁
Its never too late for this as youll be watching it many many more times in the future
This should be renamed, "18 things you missed cos nobody actually gives a shit cos they're not even that big of a deal."
Then why watch, or even take the time to leave a comment if “nobody actually gives a shit?”
😂
@@thomasfiel9551 to learn you must observe.
I limit the number of times I watch my favorite movies. That way I can always appreciate them and never get bored.
On top of all the reasons we like this movie so much, I have one more, the Bank Manager (when Andy gets some money and mails the financial records to a newspaper reporter) was my High School History teacher in the 60's. A fantastic teacher and an outstanding person, Jim Kisicki.
The few teachers I remember, I remember because they were such nice people
@@therealbadbob2201 I also only remember the good teachers from public school - but I clearly remember some crappy college instructors.
One of the best movies ever made!
Agreed 👍 A couple years back my then girlfriend told me she'd got tickets to see it at a local theatre. I assumed, as this isn't uncommon in my experience, it was the theatre showing the movie on a temporary big screen on the stage. When we arrived at the theatre and were waiting for drinks in the foyer I clocked several posters on the walls promoting up coming shows, and sure enough there was The Shawshank Redemption. After glancing at it for a second or two something seemed off about it. Then I thought, "hey that isn't Tim Robbins...and that isn't Morgan Freeman either". It only took a couple more seconds for the penny to drop and me figure that we were there to see a live stage production of the movie 🙄 Unfortunately I voiced a lot of this thought process and my then girlfriend thought it was hilarious that I'd got it all wrong. From that moment on I vowed to pay more attention to what she was saying!! Didn't do much good though I guess given that she's now an ex 😁
Sorry I beg to differ, not one of but THE best 🤩
Let me get this straight; The director had absolute faith in Tim Robbins ability to act for the entire movie, but was unsure if he could load a pistol? Billy Corgan complex.
There’s probably more to the story than the vid alludes to.
@@kensurrency2564 possibly
They probably had finished principle photography for the film and calling Tim Robbins back to film that one scene loading the gun would have cost the studio more than the shot was worth. my guess.
Are you completely blind to the changes in both characters' hairs? Maybe it's not a lot, but it's more than nothing.
Red: "He might live amongst these other dirty crooks, but he ain't one of them."
This about the "only guilty man in Shawshank."
Lol your right
He's "The only guilty man in Shawshank" because in the short story, Red tried to murder his unfaithful wife by fixing the brakes on her car. It worked. Unfortunately, his wife had a friend and her little boy as passengers, and everyone died.
@@laurabeane8862 well that's the terminology, but in reality Red would have broke the brakes. Or in present tense break the brakes.
@@corssecurity Lol. The story was set in the 1950's. Back when crooks said they would "take care" of someone.
Fun fact: The role of Andy Dufresne was originally offered to Tom Hanks, who couldn't accept due to scheduling conflicts with Forrest Gump (1994). Hanks did, however, work on Frank Darabont's next film, The Green Mile (1999), also an adaptation of a Stephen King novel, which takes place in a prison.
As much as I love Tom Hanks acting, Tim Robbins captured the enigmatic and persevering personality of Andy perfectly.
And before it was offered to Tom Hanks it was offered to Tom Cruise.
And Red was offered Harrison Ford then three other people before Morgan Freeman.
Still right at the top of my all-time favorite films...if I am flipping channels, I'll always stop and watch it.
The name of the prison guard Andy helps first after Hadley is named Deakins- like the films Director of Photography- Roger Deakins.
What you left out was that when Andy dropped the incriminating evidence at the bank. The warden read the paper the morning of Andy’s escape after having found the old shoes and cut out bible, then heard sirens. Andy asked the woman at the bank to add the evidence to their outgoing mail. The newspaper and cops wouldn’t have received the mail till the next day. So the time line was off by a day.
I'm pretty sure that's meant to be the day after, no?
Good Point! You are right and that never occurred to me.
That's the magic of movies, you can do whatever you want to make the story fit ❤
You must actually like all the Fast and Furious movies.
One of the greatest movies ever made and it sticks to my brain like glue~!!
Jeffrey Demunn was so devoted to Darabont, that when he left The Walking Dead, Demunn left.
I made an appointment with my son who is 28 years old to watch shawshank redemption. He had never seen it. We spent Sunday watching the film he was moved. Today he sent me your video ❤ty
The gusher from the sewer is the inaccurate part not the drained sewer. In the middle of the night the sewer would likely be almost empty. I've worked on sewers that size and seen them break. Even when full they don't splash like that unless they're plugged up and the "water" is backed up.
As many have already stated, the pipe was probably a storm drain, sewer pipe not a sewer pipe.
I’ve recommended this movie to many and they are never disappointed. Another great movie I discovered years ago while channel surfing on a snowy day was “The Man Who Would Be King” with Sean Connery,Michael Caine and Christopher Plummer.
RIP Sean Connery :(
Live about 15 miles from Manci aka Shawshank so this was a big deal for us locally...the Bank at the end of the Movie is still here and the vault door inside the bank is quite old and is one of the coolest. The business seen out the front window is Picideli news stand.. The bus station where Red got his ticket is part of the old Myers building offices and the brand new building seen across the street DCHS had to be blurred out because of the sparkling new handrail that was in the shot. The laundry scenes we also shot in our town where most of the outside shots outside of the prison where shot in the upper eastern part of the US... Massachusetts or Maine... not sure which.
To think that you have to really stretch to even find mistakes shows just how good a film the Shawshank Redemption is!
Geeeee folks..you can find faults in almost every movie...but you have to admit this is one of the best films ever
made.The ending is totally amazing.CHEERS all.
As far as the aging goes, maybe I’m seeing things, but certain shots do seem to have Andy, Red and The Warden with more grey hair and different hair styles towards the later years (about the time Tommy arrives). I don’t think it was meant to be drastic and realistic but just subtle detail to show at least some time passage. Andy is also seen wearing glasses later on which is about the same time you can notice this. Again, it could just be inconsistent make up, scenes shot out of order, or just the lighting, but it seems like it’s definitely there.
Regarding the sewer pipe: since it was open on one end it actually would already be drained (as in the film). When Andy knocked a hole in it nothing should have come out, least of all a fountain of “water.”
Just unluckily at a time of high flow? That washee away by the time he makes the hole big enough?
John there is no pressure in the pipe because its open at one end so no matter how much flow that is going through the pipe it wouldn't burst like that. Think of it like a can of pop. When its closed the sides are all hard due to pressure so when you pierce the side it would shoot out but, if you open the can you realise pressure
@@haydenoberg6807 yeah, I've seen others saying something similar. I was trying to make sense of it but failed as there was none
Why he chose enchilada night, we'll never know. LOL
@@michaelfitzsimmons8393 I understood that reference lol
Such exquisite camera works and dialogues throughout. Absolute optimistic movie
The thing that always jumps out at me is: How did the poster get back on the wall, so nice and taught, after Andy crawls into the wall??
He probably only had it attached to the wall by its top corners so he can get behind it just fine
And small washers taped to bottom backside corners could easily act as weights to drop edges back down. I used two pennies as a child to hide things behind a poster.
All the botox
@@jacksonbrown5900 - I wanna know what you hid behind your posters. ☺️
One thing you definitely missed in the 18 things we somehow missed in the Shawshank redemption summary video: You ended the video saying ‘there are the 20 things you missed’, when the title is 18. Check mate.
In the driving scene after Andy's escape, I'm always amazed how, in 1966, he was able to get his hands on a 1969 GTO. The album Heywood was listening to in the library in 1963 wasn't released until the early 70's. Also, the Mozart that Andy played over the loudspeaker in 1955 was recorded in 1968.
Jesus, you need to work for these guys. Adam C. is famous for screwing lists up, he’d never actually get anything like what you did.
@@WillJM81280 I'm sure he's only reading a script. I doubt he's even seen the movie, and if he has, it's maybe once.
I made a research on what you did. Excellent work. It overshadows all what is written on the list especially Hank Williams and Mozart.
Nobody likes a smart arse.
@@snotnosedlilkid I get it. You saw in the title "18 things you missed..." and you didn't want to see any more.
I’ve loved the Red saying “all it takes is pressure and time” the geological process to create rock, and Andy’s use of a rock hammer to chisel his escape tunnel.
I always liked the fact that he hid the rock hammer at the book of Exodus. This is a story about the Israelites gaining freedom from slavery, just like Andy escaping from prison. I also liked how the Warden discovered that, because he would talk about the Bible, but failed to live up to it.
Most people who talk about the bible fail to live up to it.
One of the best movies ever made every actor plays their part to a tee
The movie was shot at Mansfield Ohio’s condemned max security prison. I know as I was there (the prison, not the shoot). The lunch hall, the movie theater, etc were all authentic to that prison. Where other parts were shot I do not know.
You did time there?
I have watched this maybe 100 plus times, and will 1000 plus more! One of my favorites! Maybe because I can relate to this movie 1st hand.
Consider the piping Andy crawls through. It's obviously a storm drain, not a sanitary sewer, which most certainly would not drain into a creek. The pipe he breaks with the rock or whatever would most likely be made of clay, with is plausible, but that would be rainwater, not raw sewage gushing out.
Dear Mr cleary, I love your videos. You have amazing powers of observation. Thanks! Philadelphia USA
The sewer pipe is easy to explain- it is no longer used. Andy also escapes when it is raining, so a sewage pipe would not fill with sewage as water would be running through it
It was very clearly still in use as a sewage drain with fresh feces like material actually sticking to its walls.
Yeah, the crew scrambled for a dead maggot. They definitely didn't kill one and say it was already dead.
IKR!!
Frankly, I would have loved to see the outcry over a live maggot being used and nobody else caring; likely calling out the stupidity of the complaint.
@@ZogZog333 Exactly!
Lol. No maggots were killed while making this movie. We refer to extras by worse names😝
@@laurabeane8862 LMAO!!
15: well remember the movie takes place over twenty years. Many scenes don't take place in close amounts of time, so theoretically many of the background prisoners can come and go, either released/killed, and newbies come in.
With all the times I've watched Shawshank, I seriously NEVER noticed that they don't age. WTH?
I always thought they did age them a bit. Especially Red’s gray hair.
This is my Dads favourite film, I think he knows the script backwards!
So Andy goes from Mexico and crawls his way into a prison? jk
Me too 🤩
@@garyelder4610 😂😂
Hi plumber here , the pipe has an open end he wouldn't have been swimming due to the open end indicating lack of pressure and the fall off necessary to draw sewage away , his breaking the pipe wouldn't have blown up in his face though and every time someone flushed you have a bad time
I can't believe how apperantly most have missed, or didn't mentioned the "biggest" hidden messages in this movie. It's when the warden realize his game is up and looks at his wallsafe, with his wife needle point "His Judgement Cometh and That Right Soon..."
"Hidden"??? Pretty overt and obvious. How on earth would you assume that's deemed "hidden"?!
@@mikespearwood3914 Well, you know how people are... My mother in law still smiles and says "thank you" despite the messages I've written so far in her pudding, during sunday dinner.
Brilliant that the word 'Judgment' is purposely misspelled 'Judgement" in the needlepoint
Another cool thing is the cell block was completely made from scratch in an old rundown warehouse with a air system set up to open and close the cell doors. The same cells were also used in The Green Mile.
During the library scene, these guys have shown they are uneducated. So for Red to say 500 yards is just shy of half a mile, is playing on the character’s horrible math. This line is legit
What's interesting about prison movies, is that the prisoners tend to be the good guys, and the Warden with his guards are the bad guys. Movies like Shawshank Redemption, Escape from Alcatraz, Lock-up (with Stallone), and the Longest Yard (both versions with Burt Reynolds and Adam Sandler). There is typically a prisoner who is the protagonist, and the Warden, the antagonist, is either mean or corrupt, while the guards are his henchmen. The protagonist prisoner typically wins in the end.
Story telling elevated to art.
So you're not going to mention how small that hole was in that pipe andys head could barely fit through but he managed to fit his 6 foot 5 body frame through. One of my favorite movies
There’s a ‘movie mistake’ or logic gap that bothers me every time. Am I alone?
Andy is MUCH taller than the warden.
No way would his suit fit him and most likely shoes as well.
I would say that Tim is taller, but it is pointed out in the video they make efforts so that Andy does not appear taller than inmates and guards.
Tim Robbins is 6’5”. Bob Gunton, who plays Warden Norton, is actually 6’2”. So same height in real life, and similar height in the film.
@@rykerhayward8606 no he appeared much taller and the 3” difference would still make his the bottom of the suit legs to appear as high waters. He appeared much taller than pretty much everyone in the film, especially the warden. I guess you watched a different movie. Red even mentioned his height.
I think they try to show that a little, when Andy walks into the bank at the end, his trousers are clearly too short
Doesn’t bother me.sorry.
Something that one might also look over is that when Tommy is murdered by Hadley, the weapon used is an M14. This was at a time when the M14 was not in use as a standard issue rifle for any service and it is much more likely that the guards would have had recycled weapons of WWII vintage such as the M1 Garand, definitely the M1 carbine, probably the even earlier Springfield 1906 model or some varation of a Remington bolt action rifle.
Actually, it was in use from ‘58-59 to ‘65-66 and back then was common to utilize current military arms in prisons. Sometimes older stuff too though so...either way is possible
One of the best movies ever.
The cigarette one is wrong,
Many inmates who don't smoke collect cigarettes simply because they are the currency in any prison.
My favorite Film of all Time. I love it
One of the best show of all time. Me and my kids went to the show. I bought the video never got enougg
I would think anyone with a Sunday school level of biblical knowledge got that Exodus one. It's hard to miss and is one of the more significant books of the Old Testament. Heck, even if you knew little to nothing of the Bible it doesn't take much to guess the word Exodus is related to an exit.
“So there you have it, those are 20 things you somehow missed in the Shawshank Redemption”.
Thought it was 18
I thought I heard wrong. He def said 20 at the end 😂
Ah but did you pick up on the scene towards middle/end when the warden is giving a public speech about their prison reform... he’s actually wearing transition lenses in his glasses, and I’m certain they didn’t have those back then either.
As a math geek, I noticed the 500 yards error immediately. You might also point out how ridiculous it was that Brooksy thought he could release Jake the crow into the wild and it could survive after being hand- fed all its life.
If it can be fixed with one line of dialogue.. it isn’t a f***ing plot hole!
Very good list with all of the reasons why this film was made this way. Thanks.
As someone who has actually done time, I totally understand Andy and Red not aging something about being locked up preserves you so im ok with that one, reading some of the other comments makes me sad I love the movie but damn there are of mistakes made in this film, lest just love it for what it is and don't think about the mistakes to much
Might be my most watched movie, love it. If I found it tonight, I would likely watch it again.