18:30 Partly. He was also finally paroled because the board became more progressive over time. If you watch each scene, you’ll notice the board members get younger each hearing, and at the last one, there’s one woman. Also, the board tells him to “Sit!” the first time, “Sit down” the second, and “Please sit down” the third.
I keep waiting for a movie to show up and it’s just 20 min of black screen with “Nothing” in white. But they say “no movie is without sin” so it probably won’t happen.
@@toddysurcharge771 If you could do RUclips for a living instead of working a mundane job and making minimum wage you mean you wouldn't do it? Being a youtuber today is just the same as being a tv personality, if you drag the guys of this channel in the dirt for their jobs I hope you do the same for all entertainers to not be a hypocrite.
4:41 It’s because he’s a banker. He is used to wearing his shirts totally buttoned up. At the beginning of the movie and when he is working in the library or at a desk, his shirt is always much more clean/unwrinkled than the others, with buttoned cuffs and a straight collar. Sin deserves to be removed.
@@gmh471 They mentioned that Andy wanted part of his old life to be carried into prison the best it could, which is why he asked for the rocks to play chess, and why he offered beer to his co-workers that were tarring the roof. He wanted to feel like his old self, and he felt like that by buttoning his shirt to the top
He walks into the bank as one of the wealthiest clients they've got, and he's mysterious. "Here, mail this for me" is EXACTLY how an enigmatic rich person acts.
Actually Post Offices are where wanted notices were posted,seeing how he just escaped prison; I would believe he would like to avoid going somewhere that could potentially get him re incarcerated
That alone makes it better than the book. There it ends with the "I hope" speech. Of course some would argue that not knowing if he'd find Andy but still willing to believe is just as powerful.
I’ve just realized that Brooks freeing Jake despite Jake being domesticated so he won’t function in the free world is the exact same thing that happens to Brooks himself. That’s kinda neat.
"You may think I'm going to remove a sin here for this clever use of metaphor, but clever metaphors aside, Brooks absolutely killed this bird. Yes, the metaphor is effective, but the fact remains that a f*cking bird had to die for you to get your admittedly powerful metaphor across. & Animal death is always a sin." - Jeremy probably.
Fun fact. I know the guy sitting behind Red in the scene where they find out inmate died from Hadley beating him. His name is Kevin and lives in Mt. Vernon. Really nice guy. Had some stories about being on set. Said the guy who plays Brooks was a sweet man and always hung out with the extras. Also had an anecdotal story about the costume designer wanting to cut his (James Whitmore)hair to the time period and he said “I’m the only one here who was alive then and this is exactly how I had my hair so with all respect you’re not touching mine”
Sin 42, “Except you domesticated him and now he is woefully unprepared to survive life in the wild.” Yes cinema sins. It’s almost like symbolism for what prison did to Brooks
@Chris Wilson I tried to sound extremely serious to the original commenter, because his comment was far too complimentary to be on an "everything wrong with" video. It would however be an extremely valid comment on an "everything great about" video.
I always saw it as a comfort thing. Andy was a banker, so was accustomed to having the top button done for the purpose of a tie knot and tucking in his shirt.
I was low-key hoping he'd come up with something at the end to remove all the sins. If there is any movie that deserves zero sins, this has to be up there.
I always thought Andy buttoning his top button was a pretty cool character detail, trying to show how he carried himself with dignity that was out-of-place in his surroundings, much like Red is talking about then.
19:07 The entire point for all the "insane bullshit Andy puts Red through" is to give Red a purpose after prison. red clearly shows Andy how institutionalised he is after Brooks attacks Haywood when hearing about his parole hearing. Andy knew full well after reading Brooks letter / suicide note that Red would end up doing the same thing. And so, as well as creating his own way out of prison, Andy did the same thing for Red. He created a convoluted series of tasks for Red to go through, in order to give the institutionalised man freedom from the prison within his own mind and make it to Mexico to see his friend. Sin removed.
It also stays cryptic enough so there's no clear paper trail. A safe deposit box means a record. Naming the town in Mexico offers a clue. Andy is covering both of their butts by hoping Red can internalize what he tells him.
when he said "it would be a sin to sin this movie" i thought they were gonna add and drop sins enough to balance out to 0...or have a big "i will remove all sins for this movie being this movie" at the end :D
Same. Andy is supposed to be a guy that remains high class even in a place like prison. In the book it's one of the reasons that the warden won't allow Andy to have another trial. He hates that Andy still acts like a free man and won't lose his spirit like the others, because he's not getting that high of power with him.
If we’re taking sins off then I’d like to remove one for Red leaving the prison in a black suit and brown hat since it was symbolic for him being in and escaping the same situation that Brooks was in
Any time they sin a genuinely good movie, you cant take it all that seriously. They legit have to make up sins to fill the video sometimes, there just aren't tons of mistakes in good films like this. Like the "judgement" spelled with an E sin. Half of these are just for laughs.
A man would have been able to get a divorce for any reason he chose and the woman would have been blamed. The only reason a woman would be able to get a divorce was beating etc and that would have been extremely hard to get. Andy clearly didn't want to give her a divorce.
Actually since the wife cheated the husband could’ve gotten a divorce. There was very few legal reasons for divorce at the time, but infidelity was one of them
To give more context, Reno was one of the very *very* few states that gave "no-faults" divorces. Basically, you generally had to give a reason for wanting a divorce in the first place which would then have to be proven to be true. Andy could have given infidelity as a valid reason but the entire point is that he's not the one wanting the divorce, his wife is. And "I'm boinking another guy" wouldn't be an acceptable reason for a woman wanting to get a divorce (in that time period, I'm fairly sure the reasons for a woman seeking divorce were pretty limited to domestic abuse or serial infidelity, neither of which Andy was guilty of) - and besides anything else, her reputation would have been dragged through the mud as a result if it became known she'd been having an affair (the prosecutor at Andy's trial even says he would have understood it if Andy had killed his wife and lover in a crime of passion). In 1940s' Reno, they waived the whole "needing a reason" thing and operated more on a "no questions asked" basis, hence why it became known as the "divorce capital of the world" in the first place, so she could have got her divorce without needing to provide a reason for it and been free to give whatever reason she liked for it to friends/family while still keeping her reputation.
10:18 the scene of him releasing the bird is the exact situation he is going through, he spent majority of his life in prison and after he is released he will have very hard time surviving out in the "wild" just like the bird. This was a masterpiece of a scene in my opinion P.S. i didnt read the comment section and the most liked comment is this exact comment
If I had to pick a part of the movie that I didn't like, I would have to say the inclusion of Brooks. He just seemed too nice, too docile especially for someone who was in prison for most of his adult life. If they made him just a bit sinister, I think it would have been more realistic.
@@rricci LOL I already saw the reply but your docile prisoner committed a felony only matched by the sisters and Hadley. Well, I guess prison escape is frowned upon, but you know what I mean.
One of the prisoners calls him out when Hadley first entered the block and threatened to tell the warden. Hadley replied that he would tell the warden with a baton up his rear. So, the script actually acknowledged that.
Technically it's only "taking the Lord's name in vain" if you're just talking shit. If you REALLY MEAN it, as Hadley can be assumed to, then it's not in vain, it's an oath. Besides which, that's not even what blasphemy means, so Norton didn't even know what he was talking about. Blasphemy is "the act of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things", which would be saying something like "God's the real bad guy" or "Jesus blew a donkey". Swearing in God's name that you're gonna beat someone's ass....still isn't a very Christian thing to do, but it's not technically blasphemy. Saying that said ass-beating would be on BEHALF of God might count as blasphemous, though. But Hadley didn't say he'd beat ass in God's name, he just made a promise by God that he would.
@@skazwolfman8622 If you pray to God, and he doesn't give you what you asked for in the prayer, isn't that taking the lord's name in vain? I kinda think it is.
It would have been nice to have a sin off for the amazing finale scene where they meet up on the beach. One of the best moments of good feeling in a film ever.
@@danielkokal8819 Cute wordplay, but there's no way he crawls how many 100(s) of feet to freedom through a close-fitting pipe filled with methane producing sewage. With no oxygen, he passes-out then suffocates They find the body 10 years later when his bulk stops-up the slo-flo down the passage. THEN he warden is investigated after his retirement but nobody really cares anymore, cuz he's in congress
Peter: Where the hell is he? There’s like 500$ in that box. Ooohh man if he ran off with that money I am gonna be soooo pissed, what am I going to do though? Go to the authorities? I just broke out of prison.
7:52 No, see, that's EXACTLY what's brilliant about this scene. It happens immediately after Andy finds out how fragile the walls of his cell are. If he pretends the reason he wanted a Rita Hayworth poster is because he had just seen a Rita Hayworth movie, even RED won't know his escape plan. Which, by the way, is also what's brilliant about 8:40. A Rita Hayworth movie would be weird timing to walk up and say "I need a Christianity poster to impress the warden."
He may have even still been thinking about the best way to cover the hole and gotten the idea for the poster while watching the movie. Considering how in the next scene Andy ends up in the hospital without having another chance to talk to Red, it was a good idea to ask about the poster as soon as possible. Of course he wasn't planning to get attacked then and there, but that's not unique. Whenever we see someone going to the hospital or to solitary it's always with little to no warning. If you've got something you need to tell someone, don't wait because you never know when something's going to happen that will put you out of contact for a while.
Can we talk about the brilliance of the warden’s safe-deposit box hidden behind a religious cross-stitch? Hiding the fruit of his corrupt deeds behind a god-fearing facade!
@@cathleenrocco4804 very wrong, religion has nothing to do with bad deeds, the core of religion is to worship God, it is that some priests are corrupt, but they don't reflect anything about Christianity
(6:38) Ah, yes, the infamous "do you trust your wife?" line. I also thought that it was a mistake by Andy (or the writers), or a CinemaSins "sin" for a long time...but then I tried to look at it through the eyes of the character of Andy Dufresne, and I had an epiphany. (1:30) The judge calls him icy and remorseless. Later, Red says that geology must have appealed to Andy's meticulous nature. Andy also uses a medical argument to prevent Boggs from forcing oral sex on him, whereas most people in that situation would be attempting an emotional appeal. Andy is clearly very analytical in his thinking and may very well approach all things in his life with that detached emotionless analytical style. Heck, maybe that's why his wife began having an affair; she wasn't getting the affection she needed from her husband. Therefore, when Andy approached Hadley, he was looking at it as an experiment. If he opened with "I can help you keep that money," it may have tainted Hadley's thinking if Andy THEN asked if Hadley trusted his wife. Hadley would be focused on keeping the money and NOT more objectively on the trustworthiness of his wife. This may have been a strategy Andy employed when he was a banker, and/or it may have been influenced by Andy's own marriage. Either way, with Andy's approach, Hadley would have been thinking about the trustworthiness first before knowing how it would help him. In the same vein, because Andy is so emotionally detached, he underestimated Hadley's emotional reaction, as Andy has underestimated other people's emotional reactions (i.e. his own wife, or when he called the Warden "obtuse"). Andy never actually got an answer to the question of Mrs. Hadley's trustworthiness, but when faced with the imminent prospect of being thrown off the roof, Andy aborted the experiment and showed his hand by telling Hadley he could help him keep the money if Hadley trusted his wife. Thus, through the lens of the overall character of Andy Dufresne, opening with "do you trust your wife" is logical and purposeful from his point of view, and completely fits his personality.
When Andy asked Hadley if he "Trusted his wife" he knew exactly what he was doing. If he approached him saying "I can help you keep the money" Hadley, with a distain for inmates wouldn't have let him get near him and brush him off completely. Asking him if he trusts his wife however, the sheer audacity of the question ensures that Andy gets Handles attention.
I don't know. I've always taken it as Andy being a bit autistic--scarily good at what he does (tax evasion, perseverance, forming long-term plans) but not good at reading people. He does confess in his later talk with Red that him not opening up to his wife, might have been the reason she left him. Also he taunted Bogs' stupidity in the movie rail room when everyone knows that that would probably get himself killed. I think we're supposed to view Andy as blunt and not good with words.
I work in one's office. It does work. If a lot of people are writing about the same thing they panic, worry. It works better as paper mail it's given more weight cos it takes more time and effort to get ready and xend
You know why political ads ask you to call your senator and/or representative? Because pleasing the ones engaged enough to call you means pleasing the people who are sought out for advice on how to vote come next election, and outside the safe seats, that matters. If you won your seat by 0-5 points, and the average swing is e.g. 5 points, any politician will take those letters and calls seriously -- they might be the few thousand votes deciding their fate. I don't know the number for your district or state, but letters and calls really can make a difference (Though of course, this is only to a degree!). Reelection chance is the most powerful force in politics. If your politicians are afraid they won't get reelected, they'll listen and pander *hard* !
I feel like oddly low-key inserted a patriotic way of thinking to make it feel older, as I read that it's actually true though they weren't spammed nearly as much or consistently ... and actually cared about helping people.
I like how Red's "shitty pipe dream" is your epitome of foreshadowing when it's so blatant and in your face compared to referencing the book: "The Count of Monte Cristo", a story in which an innocent sailor is imprisoned wrongfully, tunnels his way out after bonding with a sick older prisoner, makes his fortune off of what he learned in prison and how to abuse the system, and gets revenge on those who wronged him.
@@sphong0610 I think the count of Monte Cristo bit is the movie making fun of Stephen King for being a derivative money grubber. There's no mention of it in the book. But also, in the book, the warden isn't a long standing fixture and doesn't get any tangible come uppance.
Fun fact: The role of Andy Dufresne was originally offered to Tom Hanks, who couldn't accept due to scheduling conflicts with Forrest Gump (1994). Hanks did, however, work on Frank Darabont's next film, The Green Mile (1999), also an adaptation of a Stephen King novel, which takes place in a prison.
My name is Andy, Andy Dufresne. You can tell a lot about a person's shoes. But how often do you look at a man's shoes? ... Ever since that day, after escaping Shawshank, I was running!
They do.. I don't know how far back can I go to prove this, but how about LotR, Interstellar (as mentioned in comment bellow), Whiplash, Mad Max, The Wolf of Wallstreet, Inception, Hacksaw Ridge, and literally many more.. Those are all fucking amazing movies.
Personally I don’t mind. Even when he sins masterpieces like this, it’s still interesting when he points out stuff I never realized or noticed before. I know I enjoyed this than watching a sins video on a movie we already know is horrible and will get hundreds of sins.
rules obviously dont apply to the guards and the warden, sadly. not that the warden truly cares about the meaning behind his rules, he just wants to exert power over his prisoners
Sin 77 leaves out the greatest line ever and I know why because of the YT algorithm. "I'd like to think the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was to wonder how the hell Andy Dufrense ever got the best of him." Chef kiss in writing right there!
Yup... I didn't realize til I saw that one live action episode where SpongeBob and Patrick go to a surface restaurant and all their voice actors are playing their human counter parts... I saw Hadley as Mr Krabs and had to go to IMDB to figure out where I knew him
same with why he does his top button up. He's a top button kind of guy, he is an accountant with no criminal record. dude it straight laced and top button as it gets.
When Red and Andy speak about the name of the Mexican town and the place, Red would have remembered it well. Red believed Andy was going to commit suicide and that would have been their last conversation.
Red could have believed this was their last converstaion hours after it took place (after he heard that Andy asked for a rope), which means there was really no reason for him to try and memorise it.
What always stood out to me was that Andy's plan when getting to said resort town would be to fix up an old boat and was doing so while Red was still incarcerated. However, when Red is finally reunited with him over a year later, the state of the boat looks like Andy just found it. I know its petty, but it sticks out when you rewatch it. Lol
@@bonniehowell4259 because Andy has all that money and free time, he was not really in a hurry to get the boat done. Sand a little, drink some tequila, wake up the next day wondering what happened the night before. Repeat.
It's one of the greatest movies ever made. I live in Thailand now and have a fourteen-year-old Thai/American son and this kid raised on the other side of the planet, talking about a time when he didn't even exist on the planet, is telling me that his favorite movie is The Shawshank Redemption... and he had never watched it with me. Somehow he discovered it on his own.
@@richtygart6855 ah yes yes, I've myself meet many thai women, and I have to praise the thai educational system, even the chambermaids are educated up the wazoo
The scene in the bank when Andy asks them to send out his package shows that he is now in control of the story. He is no longer trapped in the underworld, and has come out to control his fate and the fate of others. His new found power seduces the people at the bank (not to mention the fact that he's worth a little money and they want to provide him with good service), and they gladly do as he asks. It's a subtle piece of the story, and its one of my favorite scenes in the film.
Remember what Andy says to Warden Norton, "I'd be just as liable for laundering the money". Andy's whole scheme is dependent on a few things. One - if someone makes the connection between him and Andy Dufresne, he doesn't get the money and he goes back to jail. Remember - he's also a former bank manager. If anyone in that bank recognizes him (due to shitty luck). They said that Andy blew through town (as Norton kept money with various banks). I am guessing Andy was careful enough to make sure none were his former bank. Also, if the signature is recognized. That's why Andy puts on the whole performance - dressed to the nines, looking like the consummate businessman, etc.
The mail drop is Andy covering his tracks. You can't sent mail without a return address, so how is Andy going to leave a return address? If the bank 'quietly adds it to their outgoing mail', it now has the bank as the return address, and it doesn't have his fake name attached to it. Very slick. The newspaper has nothing to trace Andy. Andy has a few other worries as well. Until he gets to Mexico, he could still get found out and go back to jail, but this scene is the most important. If he can't get access to the money, he's hooped. So it's all a bit of theatre, and very well done. Andy plays the part of the consummate (and wealthy), businessman with Norton's suit and borrowed clothes. After this - he still has to get the money in a form he can do something with, (which is not easy), if he wants to do it right. My guess is that he would have had bank drafts issued to his 'fake' name. He would have spent some time quietly cashing the drafts out (in a place that's not Maine). Once he's converted all the drafts (severence pay for 20 years, would be in the neighborhood of 400k, which is a LOT of money at that time. He has to convert that into a form he can use in Mexico (USD) is probably easiest. Cashing out 10k at a time will take about a month of quiet cashing out (maybe in NH).
The fact that we had hit the 2 minute mark on this video and only one sin was present is very telling of the quality and impact of this movie, but also of this channel’s appreciation for good cinematography. Love this! 🧡🧡🧡
4:50 It explains in the novella that the guards DO know that things are smuggled in the prison, but they just turn a blind eye because if they restrict them too much, the prisoners will be too hard to control.
Big Mo Logan The movie is already 2 hr and 22 min long. If they addressed all the things he complained about, it would be 3 hours long. It’s common knowledge that prison guards turn a blind eye to certain things, and I’ve never heard anyone else make this point about Shawshank Redemption before. The movie is damn near flawless, and the points made in this video are moot.
@@willtheprodigy3819 Most of the sins were just for humors sake, but a couple like the officers coming to arrest the warden AFTER the newspaper has been published and distributed, the fact that Red has to remember the Mexican town, tree, and rock type next to a rock wall IF he even gets out of Shawshank, and the coke glass bottle in the prison, take a bit of stretching reality to work.
17:21 Yeah man, this is what films are about: The story, the layout, the character development, the attention to detail, the emotional evocation, and the sweet release of the climax, all of the masterful work of the film coming together in one wave, one scene, where like the planets lining up, it all just feels perfect. THIS is perfect cinema, and I am not ashamed to bask in its incredible beauty for as long as I can. Wowza, Goosebumps every time
15:52 Fun fact: One of the side activities (treasure-hunting) in the videogame Red Dead Redemption involves finding treasure in the exact same description (the treasure is buried near a long stone wall in a hayfield) which is an easter egg to this movie. CinemaSins knows this I guess!
I thought Jake was a parallel to Brooks. Jake spent most of his life in Brooks care so he’s handicapped to his care and doesn’t know how to function without Beooks same as how Brooks is handicapped by the prison and doesn’t know how to live without it’s overbearing rules so when Jake is released him and Brooks have similar fates...? Side note: Ok not gonna lie that depresses me more more now that I actually said it.
Niamh McDermott I think it was thought out at least in the book. I haven’t read the book though (Idk why honestly...) so sadly I can’t confirm or deny that.
Remove a sin! They have to ask permission to go to the bathroom when they’re working, not when they’re in their cells. That’s why Red is used to asking.
Fun fact: In Norway the localized title for this movie is "Frihetens regn" meaning "The rain of freedom" directly referencing the scene when he's standing in the rain after his escape. Somewhat more poetic in a way.
So many nordic countries here already so I'll keep it going: in Finnish it's called "Rita Hayworth - avain pakoon" meaning "Rita Hayworth - the key to (the) escape"
In the book red said that the guards didn’t care about red getting stuff for prisoners, as long as red wasn’t getting anything that could be used for violence or helped them brake out.
I'm sure this was pointed out. After Brooks gives Andy his little present, he walks past Andy's cell. Sure, he is the last cell, but you can see there is a walkway around that end. The Warden walks the same way after they tossed the cells.
Fun fact: The Count of Monte Cristo is about a man who's imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit, then escapes and returns with a vengeance on those who wronged him. Sound familiar?
@@prism2451 -yes. Correct. The Devil being a fallen angel from heaven knows how to manipulate Christianity to fool people into thinking he is authentic and not an imposter because of where he started from. Unfortunately their are many people/souls on this earth who are evil like this such as the warden.. No matter what a person says or do. if their actions don't match up take that as a red flashing warning not to trust them and stay afar way from them if possible. They are just the devil in disguise and will try to destroy you like the warden tried to destroy Andy.
The Devil being a fallen angel from heaven knows how to manipulate Christianity to fool people into thinking he is authentic and not an imposter because of where he started from. Unfortunately their are many people/souls on this earth who are evil like this such as the warden.. No matter what a person says or do. if their actions don't match up take that as a red flashing warning not to trust them and stay afar way from them if possible. They are just the devil in disguise and will try to destroy you like the warden tried to destroy Andy.
4:41 getting out of the prison was always a possibility for andy. Just before his escape he undoes his top button to reveal his guards uniform. If he hadn’t always worn his button done all the way up it might have looked suspicious and that he was hiding something if the uniform had been done all the way up
You missed the point, and so did 78 other people. Its not that he asked, thats logical considering his prison life. But the manager saying he didnt have to ask to go pee is bullshit. Everybody knows you need to check with your manager before taking a break, at least with pretty much every job I have ever worked at.
@@MichaelNNY congratulations, you jsut learned your personal experience doesnt account for everyone in the world i for example have only had 1 job where I needed to ask permission to piss, everywhere else I just took a piss
@@tristanreimers423 What job requires your permission? I know that in Amazon you have to punch a clock every time you use the bathroom which is similar.
everyone is missing the bigger picture here, the time this movie was made in gives a clue to how times was back then, permission was needed, even more so if you was an ex convict, remember he is out on parole, if he set a foot wrong he goes back, rather ask than be in the wrong
The "asking permission" part is more due to the fact a prison's day is highly structured. It's one thing if he was on his downtime, such as at night, but during the day, everything you do, look at, say, work on...it's all structured, and permission has to be asked for every new step you take. So yes, you ask permission to go to the bathroom. After forty years, it's ingrained into you. Red was at work, a grocery store, but a store is still a structured workplace, in a sense. It's ingrained that, in a structured environment, you ask permission for everything you do. It is very hard to Sin a movie like _The Shawshank Redemption._ That movie shows friendship at its finest, and at its most powerful. It showed just how much Andy knew Red, because A. He realized that it was likely he'd make his next Parole, and B. That if he did he'd honor Andy's request to go far, _far_ out of his way to find a box under a black stone in some distant field with a tree. Andy was leaving as little to chance as possible that would put Red in danger of being returned to prison after his parole. That was a powerful sense of trust to know for sure Red would take all these steps, because he knew Red felt the way he did: Their bond was so strong that they would not want to face the rest of their lives without being with each other. Red knew it too, that Andy did not just abandon him after blowing town. The time he took after his parole was just him needing to adjust and reconcile himself to the path he chose to take. He heard Andy calling him. And as an aside, yes, please do _The Green Mile_ in the near future. I'm watching the film and reading the book for the first time, and it's nothing short of amazing.
Heck. I thought he did this because he was trying to do the greatest movies he hasn't done yet, and realized "Holy sh!+! How have I NOT done Shawshank Redemption yet? I very much enjoyed reading your comment btw. I've probably seen this movie a 100 times and you brought up things I've never thought about. I'd like to see The Green Mile would be a great one too. I have a feeling this is is Jeremy trying to cross off the classics, but if he isn't, he should be. As far as my nomination, it's tough because out of the many he has done there are still so many more to do, but I'll say...Scarface.
The one film I want to exist is The Long Walk. I've no idea how they'd go about it, but it could be an interesting couple of hours, then CS can watch it and be like 'AAAAAA Shawshank is a pleasant picnic next to this AAAAA'.
Andy with the rock to break open the sewer pipe, was parodied so well in Family Guy, with peter waiting for the "clap-clap-clap-clap" of the Friends theme that the warden (played by Carter Pewterschmidt) was watching on TV.
Yeah, except I don't believe word had gotten out that he has escaped, and would in no way have had time to make a wanted poster of Andy by that time too. But he knew he needed to hurry, and figured getting the bank to mail the letters was worth a try, in order to buy him some precious time too.
Although I agree with this sediment, I BELIEVE the symbolism they were going for was that Andy had been handling all of the Warden's mail and stuff for years. Him asking someone else to mail in something that was the Warden's undoing while smiling about it is just icing on the cake #Karma
One thing that always bothered me was how cold and angry Andy was in the short trial scene. It runs counter to his general personality and, more important, wouldn't his lawyers have prepared him to be a better witness?
@@petersilie304 There's nothing in the film to suggest this. I think that Robbins' presentation in that scene was a product of poor direction from a first-time director.
@@leonpaelinck It's not about his not being angry. It's about presenting your best self at trial. Andy is too smart not to have known how to behave during his trial despite how he was feeling inside. Having him sit there in a cold-blooded manner was terrible direction.
Also I think that you should have REMOVED a sin for when Brooks released his bird, Jake. You're right that Brooks is a foil for Andy and Red, but Jake is a representation of the same thing Brooks represents. A free creature that has grown dependent of the walls around him. Jake won't survive in the wild, and neither will Brooks. That's some brilliant symbolism.
It's not immediately obvious, though. I think I only caught that on the 4th or 5th viewing. Some subtle reminder earlier in the movie might've been nice for that point to land home.
Good one 😁 (For those who don't know, cinemasins always sins and comments when a person eats a bit of apple and throws it away ! " If I eat a bit of this apple, it will make me look even more of an assole" lol
@@giri1478 IIRC they also sinned eating other fruits as well. Just eating in general with side characters to "make them more likable" (this channel's words) is also sinned.
MISSED SIN: The 2nd poster Andy has in his cell is a picture of Raquel Welch from the 1966 movie "One Million Years B.C." yet the poster is clearly hanging up on the wall when the given year at the time is 1965
If the movie premiered in 1966, promotional material could have been released in 1965. This poster would then imply that Andy is in a position to know about and interact with the outside.
I remove a sin for my favorite line "i like to think the last thing that went through his head; besides a bullet; was how did Andy get the best of him"
Yeah, also how DID he manage to tape the bottom of the poster so tightly on his way out of the hole? I'm assuming he went headfirst, did he somehow secure it with his feet or something. I like to nit pick.
@@crkrcksteady he actually didnt have to lift the entire poster. In one scene you see him lift only a bit of it to chip away at the wall. So he more than likely just had to lift it just a bit to fit through
Imagine something else. One Mexican prisoner spent 6 years digging a tunnel to escape his cell. The tunnel opened up into the wardens' room... True story, there are photos on the Internet.
OK, because you asked: Why did the wife want to get a divorce in Reno, as opposed to anywhere else? The answer is because Reno instituted "no fault" divorce first, while other states and jurisdictions were granting divorces "for cause." Infidelity is certainly "for cause" but that only means that Andy Dufresne could divorce his wife, if HE wanted the divorce. It would have been granted because, IF he could supply evidence of infidelity, that was cause. That's the way it worked. Now, in Reno, there was "no fault" divorce. They would grant you a divorce for "irreconcilable differences" or even if ONE party wanted it, and NOBODY had to prove that ANYBODY was in any way in the wrong or doing something bad in the marriage. That's the point of "no fault." That's why the wife wanted a divorce in Reno, because Reno would essentially grant her one, "no questions asked." Anywhere else, and the wife would have had to supply evidence that Andy was the one cheating, or that he substantially abused her, or that his ability to maintain their living was in doubt and failing, or that they couldn't have children, because of him. Since Andy wasn't guilty of any of these things, and did not want a divorce, his wife's best bet was Reno.
I came here to post about this! Thank you! Reno was where WOMEN could get divorces because back then only men would have 'believable' justifications for getting a divorce.
@@rachellovesyarn9106 In the movie, in case you forgot what the video is about, Andy's wife is unambiguously cheating on him. He has grounds, she does not. Plenty of women got divorces before the 1950's, and not necessarily in Nevada, two of them being great-grandmothers of mine. Divorce was rarer before the mid-twentieth century, but not as uncommon as people presume.
@@deepfriedsammich yes, I agree. Andy did not want a divorce so it would have been very difficult for her to get a divorce without his consent/agreement in many states, which is why Reno was popular.
How could you leave out the BEST SCENE IN THE WHOLE MOVIE?! The ending is just phenomenal and definitely deserves a few sins taken off and to be shown at the very least.
@@ADTillion in the 50s it was a crime to commit adultery. They would often refuse to convict or would give light sentences to people who killed a cheating partner.
Tristan Riffle Yes, but, kill the person they were cheating with as well? What if that person has no idea they were sleeping with a married partner? Surely you’d need proof of that. One can’t be murdered for not even knowing about the adultery. In this movie, yes, he knew, but cases IRL? That’s just assumption without basis.
He didn't even get the good ones:. How did Andy make a hole in the pipe big enough to crawl into, and how did Andy know the pipe wouldn't have a grate at the end?
The part that always bugged me was when Andy asked Red to get him a rockhammer and tells him it won't be used for tunneling out because it's only 7 inches long. Red acts like he doesn't believe him and when he gets the hammer he laughs like he can't believe it really is only 7 inches even though Andy told him it was. And then, of course uses it to tunnel out.
You did it! You FINALLY DID IT, you jerks! I'm from Ohio, where nearly all the filming was done. I've driven by the field where Red finds the box (the tree, sadly, was heavily damaged in a storm a few years back and finally fell over last year). In fact, the first scenes in the movie were filmed less than two miles away, at Malabar Farm. Malabar Farm is a state park and is also well-known as the home where Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married in 1945. I remember when they filmed at the old Mansfield Reformatory (where, interestingly, the prison scenes from Tango and Cash were filmed a few years earlier). I've also been to the Wyandot County Courthouse in Upper Sandusky, where the courtroom scenes were filmed, but I couldn't get into the courtroom because it was locked for the day. It is truly one of the greatest films ever made, and you guys did a GREAT job! Well done!
I'm also from Richland County. It is fun to pick out scenes where we are familiar with the places those were filmed. The grocery store where Brooks and Red bag groceries recently reopened as a supermarket, and there are some cool artwork on the side of the building to highlight its heritage. Anyone visiting north central Ohio should drive the Shawshank Trail and see these locations.
In Reno you could get a divorce after 6 weeks of separation. Reno also didn’t require you to live in the state. The rest of the country, at the time, had really strict divorce laws. And it was extremely hard for a wife to divorce a husband if he contested the divorce.
Actually, it wasn't so great a movie before CinemaSins. That's your perspective, and I guess I have to respect it, but this movie has bothered me for a long time, not least of all because it's from a story by Stephen King.
peter wilson hey now, Donnie Darko was great for a first time film maker! Prometheus is allowed to have bad taste in movies without bringing Donnie Darko into it...
'Why would you button up the top button of a shirt like this?'. It emphasises how out of place Andy is, how isolated from the other prisoners, and how he still thinks of himself as a banker and hasn't quite accepted his fate after one month inside. Maybe it even emphasises his innocence, metaphorical and literal. Immediately we see the contrast with Red, whose shirt is all over the place.
18:30 Partly. He was also finally paroled because the board became more progressive over time. If you watch each scene, you’ll notice the board members get younger each hearing, and at the last one, there’s one woman. Also, the board tells him to “Sit!” the first time, “Sit down” the second, and “Please sit down” the third.
That's a great detail.
I never picked up on this. Thank you!
It's details like these that make Shawshank one of the best movies ever.
also they saw a broken man with no real will anymore.
sure let him go.
I noticed the woman and the age factor, but I never noticed the request to sit. Well done! This movie just gets deeper.
Nothing, the answer is nothing is wrong with this movie. It's a masterpiece.
Best movie of all time. But I'm sure a guy who "youtubes" for a living because he couldn't cut it at a real job can do better....
I keep waiting for a movie to show up and it’s just 20 min of black screen with “Nothing” in white. But they say “no movie is without sin” so it probably won’t happen.
@@toddysurcharge771 If you could do RUclips for a living instead of working a mundane job and making minimum wage you mean you wouldn't do it? Being a youtuber today is just the same as being a tv personality, if you drag the guys of this channel in the dirt for their jobs I hope you do the same for all entertainers to not be a hypocrite.
So you didn't watch the video
lol, way more sins in the movie that actually didn't get sinned. overdramatic cheesy movie
The fact that he doesn’t sin the narration proves how good this movie is.
Morgan Freeman is narration
You can't sin the voice of god
@@manny1216 That's Alan Rickman. Morgan is 2nd.
Uh Sin 77 begs to differ
Lupinacci Productions no
4:41 It’s because he’s a banker. He is used to wearing his shirts totally buttoned up. At the beginning of the movie and when he is working in the library or at a desk, his shirt is always much more clean/unwrinkled than the others, with buttoned cuffs and a straight collar. Sin deserves to be removed.
That's a pretty great observation. Of course, even bankers unbutton their shirts when they get home from work.
@@gmh471 They mentioned that Andy wanted part of his old life to be carried into prison the best it could, which is why he asked for the rocks to play chess, and why he offered beer to his co-workers that were tarring the roof. He wanted to feel like his old self, and he felt like that by buttoning his shirt to the top
@@purabkothari238always in the details
He walks into the bank as one of the wealthiest clients they've got, and he's mysterious. "Here, mail this for me" is EXACTLY how an enigmatic rich person acts.
And it's all undercut by the fact that he probably still smells like shit.
Jake Pullman his fancy perfume stinks
The CinemaSins M looks like Satan's Pitchfork upside-down was that intentional lol
Jake Pullman nah he had a thing of prison soap! He smells beautiful
Actually Post Offices are where wanted notices were posted,seeing how he just escaped prison; I would believe he would like to avoid going somewhere that could potentially get him re incarcerated
Really? No sin off for the end when they finally find each other and hug? There’s a bowl of onions next to me every time I watch that scene.
Same man. I cant ever seem to shake that rogue bowl of onions. It just keeps...finding me, ya know?
That alone makes it better than the book. There it ends with the "I hope" speech. Of course some would argue that not knowing if he'd find Andy but still willing to believe is just as powerful.
@Solar Analysis Plot twist it was a ten year old
@@blackrose8418 Plot twist: Morgan Freeman was born in prison but conceived Tim Robbins on a conjugal visit. He liked Andy from the start lol.
@@kyuubinaruto17 I prefer the ambiguous ending of the short story, for me it just works better.
I’ve just realized that Brooks freeing Jake despite Jake being domesticated so he won’t function in the free world is the exact same thing that happens to Brooks himself. That’s kinda neat.
"You may think I'm going to remove a sin here for this clever use of metaphor, but clever metaphors aside, Brooks absolutely killed this bird. Yes, the metaphor is effective, but the fact remains that a f*cking bird had to die for you to get your admittedly powerful metaphor across. & Animal death is always a sin." - Jeremy probably.
Excellent point.
Ravens are incredibly intelligent I doubt he’d struggle to survive
@@jojoversus1100 That’s a perfect impression lol
In the novella, Jake is found starved and dead.
Fun fact. I know the guy sitting behind Red in the scene where they find out inmate died from Hadley beating him. His name is Kevin and lives in Mt. Vernon. Really nice guy. Had some stories about being on set. Said the guy who plays Brooks was a sweet man and always hung out with the extras. Also had an anecdotal story about the costume designer wanting to cut his (James Whitmore)hair to the time period and he said “I’m the only one here who was alive then and this is exactly how I had my hair so with all respect you’re not touching mine”
That's so cool! Thank you for sharing this.
Was "hung out" really the best choice of words there?
@@justincrowley8787maaannn 💀
Sin 42, “Except you domesticated him and now he is woefully unprepared to survive life in the wild.” Yes cinema sins. It’s almost like symbolism for what prison did to Brooks
they cut the scene where Brooks finds his bird dead
It’s almost like it was blindingly obvious…
@@leonpaelinck I didnt know that. thanks, you just ruined my whole day...
They talk about him being “institutionalized” too
@@royce9018 hahah I know right. Like just think about it for a minute lol
See Andy’s shirt being buttoned up at the top is a reflection of his character to show his progression through the film
This is what I was going to say, totally agree.
No! He was Mexican 😆
Take this effing comment over to the cinema wins channel, u on the wrong block with that bs here!
@Chris Wilson I tried to sound extremely serious to the original commenter, because his comment was far too complimentary to be on an "everything wrong with" video. It would however be an extremely valid comment on an "everything great about" video.
I always saw it as a comfort thing. Andy was a banker, so was accustomed to having the top button done for the purpose of a tie knot and tucking in his shirt.
I was low-key hoping he'd come up with something at the end to remove all the sins. If there is any movie that deserves zero sins, this has to be up there.
Nope. Only Troll 2 is that good.
@@swall185 you spelled "The Emoji Movie" wrong
The last sin should've been a sin removal
No film is without sin
No movie is without sins
I always thought Andy buttoning his top button was a pretty cool character detail, trying to show how he carried himself with dignity that was out-of-place in his surroundings, much like Red is talking about then.
Yea he was a business man before prison. Most people I know do this regardless as the top button being undone looks tacky.
There was a subplot about Andy joining the cholos, but they cut it for time.
Yes this is exactly what i thought, it was the same at the end while he was planning to wscape
19:07 The entire point for all the "insane bullshit Andy puts Red through" is to give Red a purpose after prison. red clearly shows Andy how institutionalised he is after Brooks attacks Haywood when hearing about his parole hearing. Andy knew full well after reading Brooks letter / suicide note that Red would end up doing the same thing. And so, as well as creating his own way out of prison, Andy did the same thing for Red. He created a convoluted series of tasks for Red to go through, in order to give the institutionalised man freedom from the prison within his own mind and make it to Mexico to see his friend. Sin removed.
Very well said, we see it in animals, but not in humans.
Clearly you're new to the whole cinema sins thing
Still thought making him do this rpg quest to find a wall and one particular rock is a little too much
the entire point of cinema sins is to point out dumb things people don't understand by dumb people.
It also stays cryptic enough so there's no clear paper trail. A safe deposit box means a record. Naming the town in Mexico offers a clue. Andy is covering both of their butts by hoping Red can internalize what he tells him.
I love how he removes five sins just because he picked this movie to pick on.
Lol he did that for Jaws as well!! Gotta show respect for the classics
I like how you get likes just because you told everyone basically what they just saw..
@@streetpeter3210 Yeah..He did this with Citizen Kane and The Shining
And I hate it. If "every movie has sins," they shouldn't feel guilty about sinning it.
when he said "it would be a sin to sin this movie" i thought they were gonna add and drop sins enough to balance out to 0...or have a big "i will remove all sins for this movie being this movie" at the end :D
I gotta disagree with the button sin, that was a bit of character building about how persnickety Andy was.
Same. Andy is supposed to be a guy that remains high class even in a place like prison. In the book it's one of the reasons that the warden won't allow Andy to have another trial. He hates that Andy still acts like a free man and won't lose his spirit like the others, because he's not getting that high of power with him.
If we’re taking sins off then I’d like to remove one for Red leaving the prison in a black suit and brown hat since it was symbolic for him being in and escaping the same situation that Brooks was in
And its a visual to how new he is. Morgan Freeman shirt is all the way unbuttoned and more worn.
Any time they sin a genuinely good movie, you cant take it all that seriously. They legit have to make up sins to fill the video sometimes, there just aren't tons of mistakes in good films like this. Like the "judgement" spelled with an E sin. Half of these are just for laughs.
Persnickety eh? Somebody's been using their thesaurus 👏
The sin about divorcing in Reno doesn’t count because divorce was heavily looked down upon in the 1940s anywhere in America other than Reno
Agreed. Specifically, HE could have easily gotten a divorce, because he was the 'injured party' in the adultery but she couldn't have.
A man would have been able to get a divorce for any reason he chose and the woman would have been blamed. The only reason a woman would be able to get a divorce was beating etc and that would have been extremely hard to get.
Andy clearly didn't want to give her a divorce.
Actually since the wife cheated the husband could’ve gotten a divorce. There was very few legal reasons for divorce at the time, but infidelity was one of them
To give more context, Reno was one of the very *very* few states that gave "no-faults" divorces. Basically, you generally had to give a reason for wanting a divorce in the first place which would then have to be proven to be true. Andy could have given infidelity as a valid reason but the entire point is that he's not the one wanting the divorce, his wife is. And "I'm boinking another guy" wouldn't be an acceptable reason for a woman wanting to get a divorce (in that time period, I'm fairly sure the reasons for a woman seeking divorce were pretty limited to domestic abuse or serial infidelity, neither of which Andy was guilty of) - and besides anything else, her reputation would have been dragged through the mud as a result if it became known she'd been having an affair (the prosecutor at Andy's trial even says he would have understood it if Andy had killed his wife and lover in a crime of passion). In 1940s' Reno, they waived the whole "needing a reason" thing and operated more on a "no questions asked" basis, hence why it became known as the "divorce capital of the world" in the first place, so she could have got her divorce without needing to provide a reason for it and been free to give whatever reason she liked for it to friends/family while still keeping her reputation.
10:18 the scene of him releasing the bird is the exact situation he is going through, he spent majority of his life in prison and after he is released he will have very hard time surviving out in the "wild" just like the bird. This was a masterpiece of a scene in my opinion
P.S. i didnt read the comment section and the most liked comment is this exact comment
If I had to pick a part of the movie that I didn't like, I would have to say the inclusion of Brooks. He just seemed too nice, too docile especially for someone who was in prison for most of his adult life. If they made him just a bit sinister, I think it would have been more realistic.
@@rricci He did consider killing Heywood so he could stay in prison though, he might have gone through with it if Andy hadn't intervened
@@rricci LOL I already saw the reply but your docile prisoner committed a felony only matched by the sisters and Hadley. Well, I guess prison escape is frowned upon, but you know what I mean.
@@waveysupreme5204 He also considered killing his store manager.
Why didn’t you read the comment section before posting your own?
"I swear by God and sunny Jesus you will all visit the infirmary" - sounds like taking the Lord's name in vain to me, Warden.
One of the prisoners calls him out when Hadley first entered the block and threatened to tell the warden. Hadley replied that he would tell the warden with a baton up his rear. So, the script actually acknowledged that.
Technically it's only "taking the Lord's name in vain" if you're just talking shit. If you REALLY MEAN it, as Hadley can be assumed to, then it's not in vain, it's an oath. Besides which, that's not even what blasphemy means, so Norton didn't even know what he was talking about. Blasphemy is "the act of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things", which would be saying something like "God's the real bad guy" or "Jesus blew a donkey". Swearing in God's name that you're gonna beat someone's ass....still isn't a very Christian thing to do, but it's not technically blasphemy. Saying that said ass-beating would be on BEHALF of God might count as blasphemous, though. But Hadley didn't say he'd beat ass in God's name, he just made a promise by God that he would.
@@skazwolfman8622 If you pray to God, and he doesn't give you what you asked for in the prayer, isn't that taking the lord's name in vain? I kinda think it is.
@@dancrane3807 I wouldn't think so. It's not in vain if *your* intent was genuine.
Do you think it was sunny or sonny
It would have been nice to have a sin off for the amazing finale scene where they meet up on the beach. One of the best moments of good feeling in a film ever.
I’m not ashamed to say that scene chokes me up every time I watch it.
Hell I didn't even realize the "shitty pipe dream" was clever and subtle foreshadowing! Oh my God this MOVIE! XD
coz he escaped thru a shitty pipe..... didnt see that one
@@danielkokal8819 Cute wordplay, but there's no way he crawls how many 100(s) of feet to freedom through a close-fitting pipe filled with methane producing sewage. With no oxygen, he passes-out then suffocates They find the body 10 years later when his bulk stops-up the slo-flo down the passage. THEN he warden is investigated after his retirement but nobody really cares anymore, cuz he's in congress
@@frederickschneider3165 I'm pretty sure this escape method of real, however. At least once or twice here in U.S. history at least.
@@frederickschneider3165 Irrelevant
Peter: "You remember the name of the town don't you?"
Cleveland: "Crap!!!"
Peter: Where the hell is he? There’s like 500$ in that box. Ooohh man if he ran off with that money I am gonna be soooo pissed, what am I going to do though? Go to the authorities? I just broke out of prison.
The thing about running a racket like Red's is that you have to have a head for remembering important stuff of which nobody wants a written record.
Surprised there wasn't a Walmart there.
Vagina boob 😂. His first words
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The trusting Morgan “Freeman” and not Nic “Cage” joke at the end was amazing. 10 sins removed!
holy shit; I just got that...
@@bvenable78 I hate to admit it but so did I.
Even better since they both played convicts
Holy shit that went completely over my head
when did he say that?
7:52
No, see, that's EXACTLY what's brilliant about this scene. It happens immediately after Andy finds out how fragile the walls of his cell are. If he pretends the reason he wanted a Rita Hayworth poster is because he had just seen a Rita Hayworth movie, even RED won't know his escape plan.
Which, by the way, is also what's brilliant about 8:40. A Rita Hayworth movie would be weird timing to walk up and say "I need a Christianity poster to impress the warden."
He may have even still been thinking about the best way to cover the hole and gotten the idea for the poster while watching the movie. Considering how in the next scene Andy ends up in the hospital without having another chance to talk to Red, it was a good idea to ask about the poster as soon as possible. Of course he wasn't planning to get attacked then and there, but that's not unique. Whenever we see someone going to the hospital or to solitary it's always with little to no warning. If you've got something you need to tell someone, don't wait because you never know when something's going to happen that will put you out of contact for a while.
I've waited *so very long* for you to remove a sin for Morgan Freeman's narration, and now it's finally happened. I'm so happy.
What the heck same
Thanks
Why is this 16 hours
@@imcool-rh1xg idk lol
Same here
You know that this is a good movie when he removes 5 sins before it even started.
Very true!!
The Shawshank Redemption is a masterpiece. There are no mistakes in this movie for me.
For real!
Very few films had negative sins at the beginning! Other than Shawshank Redemption, I can only think of Wall-E and The Lion King.
@@_xlampix1439 and alien
Can we talk about the brilliance of the warden’s safe-deposit box hidden behind a religious cross-stitch? Hiding the fruit of his corrupt deeds behind a god-fearing facade!
How's that brilliant? That's more that kind of in your face metaphor
What else is a meta-for? Hee hee hee
The biggest sin of all!
Cathleen Rocco My parents had a real god. They prayed each day, throughout the day. They assured me that I would inherit bliss along with them.
@@cathleenrocco4804 very wrong, religion has nothing to do with bad deeds, the core of religion is to worship God, it is that some priests are corrupt, but they don't reflect anything about Christianity
(6:38) Ah, yes, the infamous "do you trust your wife?" line. I also thought that it was a mistake by Andy (or the writers), or a CinemaSins "sin" for a long time...but then I tried to look at it through the eyes of the character of Andy Dufresne, and I had an epiphany.
(1:30) The judge calls him icy and remorseless. Later, Red says that geology must have appealed to Andy's meticulous nature. Andy also uses a medical argument to prevent Boggs from forcing oral sex on him, whereas most people in that situation would be attempting an emotional appeal.
Andy is clearly very analytical in his thinking and may very well approach all things in his life with that detached emotionless analytical style. Heck, maybe that's why his wife began having an affair; she wasn't getting the affection she needed from her husband.
Therefore, when Andy approached Hadley, he was looking at it as an experiment. If he opened with "I can help you keep that money," it may have tainted Hadley's thinking if Andy THEN asked if Hadley trusted his wife. Hadley would be focused on keeping the money and NOT more objectively on the trustworthiness of his wife. This may have been a strategy Andy employed when he was a banker, and/or it may have been influenced by Andy's own marriage. Either way, with Andy's approach, Hadley would have been thinking about the trustworthiness first before knowing how it would help him.
In the same vein, because Andy is so emotionally detached, he underestimated Hadley's emotional reaction, as Andy has underestimated other people's emotional reactions (i.e. his own wife, or when he called the Warden "obtuse"). Andy never actually got an answer to the question of Mrs. Hadley's trustworthiness, but when faced with the imminent prospect of being thrown off the roof, Andy aborted the experiment and showed his hand by telling Hadley he could help him keep the money if Hadley trusted his wife.
Thus, through the lens of the overall character of Andy Dufresne, opening with "do you trust your wife" is logical and purposeful from his point of view, and completely fits his personality.
Fucking genius
im going to be using this for a school assignment, thank you very much.
Abso-fucking-lutely brilliant observation!!
I thought it was meant to show Andy has a form of autismn...
When Andy asked Hadley if he "Trusted his wife" he knew exactly what he was doing. If he approached him saying "I can help you keep the money" Hadley, with a distain for inmates wouldn't have let him get near him and brush him off completely. Asking him if he trusts his wife however, the sheer audacity of the question ensures that Andy gets Handles attention.
Exactly. This YT channel has THIS many viewers?
I don't know. I've always taken it as Andy being a bit autistic--scarily good at what he does (tax evasion, perseverance, forming long-term plans) but not good at reading people. He does confess in his later talk with Red that him not opening up to his wife, might have been the reason she left him. Also he taunted Bogs' stupidity in the movie rail room when everyone knows that that would probably get himself killed. I think we're supposed to view Andy as blunt and not good with words.
And perhaps to look brave in front of the other inmates?
Mmmm, I think it had more to do with Andy's experience with his own wife. He doesn't have any other experience.
Sure he would Cuase Hadley knew Andy was a banker
“Movie suggests writing letters to elected officials makes a difference” - what a masterpiece of commentary
I work in one's office. It does work. If a lot of people are writing about the same thing they panic, worry. It works better as paper mail it's given more weight cos it takes more time and effort to get ready and xend
Ryan Carroll which elected officials office do you work in? I’ll send a letter to them :)
You know why political ads ask you to call your senator and/or representative? Because pleasing the ones engaged enough to call you means pleasing the people who are sought out for advice on how to vote come next election, and outside the safe seats, that matters. If you won your seat by 0-5 points, and the average swing is e.g. 5 points, any politician will take those letters and calls seriously -- they might be the few thousand votes deciding their fate. I don't know the number for your district or state, but letters and calls really can make a difference (Though of course, this is only to a degree!). Reelection chance is the most powerful force in politics. If your politicians are afraid they won't get reelected, they'll listen and pander *hard* !
I feel like oddly low-key inserted a patriotic way of thinking to make it feel older, as I read that it's actually true though they weren't spammed nearly as much or consistently ... and actually cared about helping people.
Marcus rashford: hold my football
I like how Red's "shitty pipe dream" is your epitome of foreshadowing when it's so blatant and in your face compared to referencing the book: "The Count of Monte Cristo", a story in which an innocent sailor is imprisoned wrongfully, tunnels his way out after bonding with a sick older prisoner, makes his fortune off of what he learned in prison and how to abuse the system, and gets revenge on those who wronged him.
But did Tim Robbins invent a tasty sandwich?
The Monte Cristo bit was so obvious I got it as a 4th grader. The shitty pipe dream foreshadowing means nothing without the movie.
Wow, never thought of that. Good catch!!
hi Zoe, am from the philippines..
@@sphong0610 I think the count of Monte Cristo bit is the movie making fun of Stephen King for being a derivative money grubber. There's no mention of it in the book. But also, in the book, the warden isn't a long standing fixture and doesn't get any tangible come uppance.
Fun fact: The role of Andy Dufresne was originally offered to Tom Hanks, who couldn't accept due to scheduling conflicts with Forrest Gump (1994). Hanks did, however, work on Frank Darabont's next film, The Green Mile (1999), also an adaptation of a Stephen King novel, which takes place in a prison.
Me being ignorant about Hollywood actors thought Andy's actor was Tom Hanks😭🤧
My name is Andy, Andy Dufresne. You can tell a lot about a person's shoes. But how often do you look at a man's shoes? ... Ever since that day, after escaping Shawshank, I was running!
And Gump ended up stealing all the oscars
Green mile is better than this shit
Definitely one of the best written movies of the century, if only they still made movies as good as this
They do, interstellar was an amazing film as well. However given the simplicity of this movie it really is one of the best.
The 2010's had very good films
They do.. I don't know how far back can I go to prove this, but how about LotR, Interstellar (as mentioned in comment bellow), Whiplash, Mad Max, The Wolf of Wallstreet, Inception, Hacksaw Ridge, and literally many more.. Those are all fucking amazing movies.
It's because the movie is based on a fantastic short story written by Stephen King.
Stephen King is a joke though
Cinema sins- Everything wrong with The Shawshank Redemption
Everyone- I don't remember asking you a godamn thing
Be cool, Yolanda!
If you watch this channel regularly you should just realise that they'll do any film though.
Many people requested
Yeah well, get used to it
Personally I don’t mind. Even when he sins masterpieces like this, it’s still interesting when he points out stuff I never realized or noticed before. I know I enjoyed this than watching a sins video on a movie we already know is horrible and will get hundreds of sins.
"Rule 1: No Blasphemy"
*Hadley not 5 minutes later* WHAT THE CHRIST IS THIS HAPPY HORSESHIT?!
And an inmate yells to call him out
rules obviously dont apply to the guards and the warden, sadly. not that the warden truly cares about the meaning behind his rules, he just wants to exert power over his prisoners
That's the point they are making! Humans can sometimes be hypocritical..
Technically, not blasphemy. :P
@Jeff Carlin That doesn't make it right.
CinemaSins astutely observes: *"Mouse farts are not audible to the human ear."*
Hmmm... I wonder if that could be the point of the expression.
Yeah that's what we get when a nitpicker sins a movie.
@@robertparker6280 That’s the point of this channel. “We are not critics. We are assholes.”
At the beginning they actually did criticisms, now they just do joke sins and memes
@@danielyarsky6128 the Shittier the movie, the more problems they actually bring up with the film as a whole
I think that’s cinemasin’s sin
Sin 77 leaves out the greatest line ever and I know why because of the YT algorithm.
"I'd like to think the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was to wonder how the hell Andy Dufrense ever got the best of him." Chef kiss in writing right there!
The fact that the guy who plays Hadley in this is the same person who does the voice of Mr Krabs still blows my mind.
he WHAT
Clancy Brown is the man
I had no idea.
@@DrDolan2000 he is immortal and there can be only one!!!
Yup... I didn't realize til I saw that one live action episode where SpongeBob and Patrick go to a surface restaurant and all their voice actors are playing their human counter parts... I saw Hadley as Mr Krabs and had to go to IMDB to figure out where I knew him
"There are 5 cups and saucers behind them. Does the parole board sometimes stop for tea?"
...Yes.
same with why he does his top button up. He's a top button kind of guy, he is an accountant with no criminal record. dude it straight laced and top button as it gets.
When Red and Andy speak about the name of the Mexican town and the place, Red would have remembered it well. Red believed Andy was going to commit suicide and that would have been their last conversation.
good point ash
Red could have believed this was their last converstaion hours after it took place (after he heard that Andy asked for a rope), which means there was really no reason for him to try and memorise it.
What always stood out to me was that Andy's plan when getting to said resort town would be to fix up an old boat and was doing so while Red was still incarcerated. However, when Red is finally reunited with him over a year later, the state of the boat looks like Andy just found it. I know its petty, but it sticks out when you rewatch it. Lol
@@bonniehowell4259 yeah. Made no sense to sand a boat next to the ocean as well. Maybe the previous one was washed out to sea during a storm. 🤣
@@bonniehowell4259 because Andy has all that money and free time, he was not really in a hurry to get the boat done. Sand a little, drink some tequila, wake up the next day wondering what happened the night before. Repeat.
It's one of the greatest movies ever made. I live in Thailand now and have a fourteen-year-old Thai/American son and this kid raised on the other side of the planet, talking about a time when he didn't even exist on the planet, is telling me that his favorite movie is The Shawshank Redemption... and he had never watched it with me. Somehow he discovered it on his own.
damn, she fleeced you that good that she shipped over to the states with the kid to boot. Damn
@@Billy_Bob_Dan No dildo. She's an accountant and works for the Thai government, not a f****** bar girl
@@richtygart6855 ah yes yes, I've myself meet many thai women, and I have to praise the thai educational system, even the chambermaids are educated up the wazoo
This really is one of the most perfect movies ever made. Would be a real shame if they decided to redo it in 10 years.
Shhh, Hollywood might hear you. Don't give them ideas.
Don't give those bastards any ideas.
If they touch this,I'll swear to God I'll come for them,and their children, and their children's children. You DO NOT mess with Shawshank...
They will, and Morgan Freeman will be even younger
Do NOT give anyone ideas
The scene in the bank when Andy asks them to send out his package shows that he is now in control of the story. He is no longer trapped in the underworld, and has come out to control his fate and the fate of others. His new found power seduces the people at the bank (not to mention the fact that he's worth a little money and they want to provide him with good service), and they gladly do as he asks. It's a subtle piece of the story, and its one of my favorite scenes in the film.
Also the mail originates from the bank itself which is a nice touch.
Remember what Andy says to Warden Norton, "I'd be just as liable for laundering the money". Andy's whole scheme is dependent on a few things. One - if someone makes the connection between him and Andy Dufresne, he doesn't get the money and he goes back to jail. Remember - he's also a former bank manager. If anyone in that bank recognizes him (due to shitty luck). They said that Andy blew through town (as Norton kept money with various banks). I am guessing Andy was careful enough to make sure none were his former bank. Also, if the signature is recognized. That's why Andy puts on the whole performance - dressed to the nines, looking like the consummate businessman, etc.
The mail drop is Andy covering his tracks. You can't sent mail without a return address, so how is Andy going to leave a return address? If the bank 'quietly adds it to their outgoing mail', it now has the bank as the return address, and it doesn't have his fake name attached to it. Very slick. The newspaper has nothing to trace Andy. Andy has a few other worries as well. Until he gets to Mexico, he could still get found out and go back to jail, but this scene is the most important. If he can't get access to the money, he's hooped. So it's all a bit of theatre, and very well done. Andy plays the part of the consummate (and wealthy), businessman with Norton's suit and borrowed clothes. After this - he still has to get the money in a form he can do something with, (which is not easy), if he wants to do it right. My guess is that he would have had bank drafts issued to his 'fake' name. He would have spent some time quietly cashing the drafts out (in a place that's not Maine). Once he's converted all the drafts (severence pay for 20 years, would be in the neighborhood of 400k, which is a LOT of money at that time. He has to convert that into a form he can use in Mexico (USD) is probably easiest. Cashing out 10k at a time will take about a month of quiet cashing out (maybe in NH).
Interesting. Raquel Welch was 1966, and the Bank Secrecy Act was only passed in 1970, so he would not have been limited to 10k at a time.
@@Benkenobi8118He could have written any return address. No law that says you need a return adress
I can’t believe you didn’t remove a sin for the “I miss my friend” part. That shit was gold
cry every time
The fact that we had hit the 2 minute mark on this video and only one sin was present is very telling of the quality and impact of this movie, but also of this channel’s appreciation for good cinematography. Love this! 🧡🧡🧡
Missed a sin: "Supposedly Christian character in a Stephen King story is really a hypocritical villain" cliche. Ding!
Sure, but that's also our lived reality so it's hardly a King cliche. He's just writing what he knows.
Also missed “The Warden should’ve found the rock hammer when he was holding Andy’s unusually-heavy Bible”, but you can’t have ‘em all
Not really he just one of those crazy religious people who contradict themselves
And he committed suicide
@@KevinLyda lmfao we found the edgy atheist
4:50 It explains in the novella that the guards DO know that things are smuggled in the prison, but they just turn a blind eye because if they restrict them too much, the prisoners will be too hard to control.
Novella doesn't count; this is the movie. Movie needs to reveal stuff on its own, to stand independently from the source material.
Big Mo Logan The movie is already 2 hr and 22 min long. If they addressed all the things he complained about, it would be 3 hours long. It’s common knowledge that prison guards turn a blind eye to certain things, and I’ve never heard anyone else make this point about Shawshank Redemption before. The movie is damn near flawless, and the points made in this video are moot.
@@willtheprodigy3819 Most of the sins were just for humors sake, but a couple like the officers coming to arrest the warden AFTER the newspaper has been published and distributed, the fact that Red has to remember the Mexican town, tree, and rock type next to a rock wall IF he even gets out of Shawshank, and the coke glass bottle in the prison, take a bit of stretching reality to work.
@@motodog242 You're not wrong. But, it's a Stephen King story. So... stretching reality is going to be a thing. :)
"I want my mother"
"I had your mother she wasn't that great" lmao 😂😂
literally sounds like some shit my friend would say to me
How old r u
@@pareshkumar9094 just a little older then non of your damn business
@@yalc-04 wut ?
@@pareshkumar9094 ...
17:21 Yeah man, this is what films are about: The story, the layout, the character development, the attention to detail, the emotional evocation, and the sweet release of the climax, all of the masterful work of the film coming together in one wave, one scene, where like the planets lining up, it all just feels perfect. THIS is perfect cinema, and I am not ashamed to bask in its incredible beauty for as long as I can. Wowza, Goosebumps every time
15:52 Fun fact: One of the side activities (treasure-hunting) in the videogame Red Dead Redemption involves finding treasure in the exact same description (the treasure is buried near a long stone wall in a hayfield) which is an easter egg to this movie. CinemaSins knows this I guess!
Red dead redemption could be a good name for this film. Maybe if they named it that the movie might have gotten more recognition when it released!
Prison isn't anything close to a game unless it's a fighting game in the yard
@@dingohunter2717 did you even read what that guy wrote? You need your head examined.
Oh wow!
I misinterpreted the post for a sec. I thought there was a game called shawshank redemption
I thought Jake was a parallel to Brooks. Jake spent most of his life in Brooks care so he’s handicapped to his care and doesn’t know how to function without Beooks same as how Brooks is handicapped by the prison and doesn’t know how to live without it’s overbearing rules so when Jake is released him and Brooks have similar fates...?
Side note: Ok not gonna lie that depresses me more more now that I actually said it.
Mr. Ferny man I never thought about that and I’ve seen this movie a million times! Now that it’s been pointed out, it can’t be unseen.
This is an amazing analogy, I hope it was genuinely thought out in the movie but if not you're a genius Mr. Ferny
Good analysis. The sad result is they probably both went to die once they got their freedom.
Agreed. I thought he was going to remove a sin for the analogy representing Brooks.
Niamh McDermott I think it was thought out at least in the book. I haven’t read the book though (Idk why honestly...) so sadly I can’t confirm or deny that.
me: Y'ALL REALLY THOUGHT YOU COULD COME FOR THIS FLAWLESS FILM
CS: removes 5 sins off the bat
me: ..... proceed
I'll allow it
This should be the shortest video ever, Shawshank is perfect.
Remove a sin! They have to ask permission to go to the bathroom when they’re working, not when they’re in their cells. That’s why Red is used to asking.
Fun fact: In Norway the localized title for this movie is "Frihetens regn" meaning "The rain of freedom" directly referencing the scene when he's standing in the rain after his escape. Somewhat more poetic in a way.
In Sweden "Nyckeln till frihet" (Key to Freedom).
In Denmark it's called 'En Verden Udenfor' meaning "A World Outside"
In Italy it's called "Le ali della Libertà" which means the wings of freedom
In France "Les évadés " ( the escapees) making it a huge spoiler😁
So many nordic countries here already so I'll keep it going: in Finnish it's called "Rita Hayworth - avain pakoon" meaning "Rita Hayworth - the key to (the) escape"
In the book red said that the guards didn’t care about red getting stuff for prisoners, as long as red wasn’t getting anything that could be used for violence or helped them brake out.
True. Cinema Sins acts like they're ex-cons. LMAO! Guards let a crime go on to keep cons under control.
@@mrd3016 correct. It's a relieve valve, as explained in the book.
I'm sure this was pointed out. After Brooks gives Andy his little present, he walks past Andy's cell. Sure, he is the last cell, but you can see there is a walkway around that end. The Warden walks the same way after they tossed the cells.
Fun fact: Morgan Freeman narrated this movie BEFORE a frame was ever shot.
Holy shit
I don't know if that's true but I'm too lazy to check
xXx_Totally Not Xavier _xXx According to my very basic research it is true 🤣👍🏻
I think everyone who has watched this knows that
Another factlet: He re-recorded the whole thing in under an hour because the first recording had a "hiss" in the audio that just wouldn't go away...
Fun fact: The Count of Monte Cristo is about a man who's imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit, then escapes and returns with a vengeance on those who wronged him. Sound familiar?
Hey man, easy with the spoiler alerts.
But its not, its literally the summary of the movie
Shawshank redemption II, this time it's personal.
in school the teachers call that "fore-shadowing"
Nice reference input
The whole “no blasphemy” part isn’t a sin. It’s entirely consistent with Warden Norton’s character. He’s obsessed with Christianity and the Bible.
Or so he pretends
@@prism2451 -yes. Correct. The Devil being a fallen angel from heaven knows how to manipulate Christianity to fool people into thinking he is authentic and not an imposter because of where he started from. Unfortunately their are many people/souls on this earth who are evil like this such as the warden.. No matter what a person says or do. if their actions don't match up take that as a red flashing warning not to trust them and stay afar way from them if possible. They are just the devil in disguise and will try to destroy you like the warden tried to destroy Andy.
The Devil being a fallen angel from heaven knows how to manipulate Christianity to fool people into thinking he is authentic and not an imposter because of where he started from. Unfortunately their are many people/souls on this earth who are evil like this such as the warden.. No matter what a person says or do. if their actions don't match up take that as a red flashing warning not to trust them and stay afar way from them if possible. They are just the devil in disguise and will try to destroy you like the warden tried to destroy Andy.
He's more obsessed with making it seem he's a godly man. I wrote this without reading the other 3 comments.
@@RWBprototype he played god.
4:41 getting out of the prison was always a possibility for andy. Just before his escape he undoes his top button to reveal his guards uniform. If he hadn’t always worn his button done all the way up it might have looked suspicious and that he was hiding something if the uniform had been done all the way up
That's bull.
My favorite film of all time, I made “Get busy living or get busy dying” my senior quote in the yearbook
Nice hair
@@dansgame5472 Nice comment
My favorite movie also.
Sara Katherine Me too!
Sara Katherine so did I! classic film
The part about asking permission to piss was probably referring to when they were on work crews or something like that
You missed the point, and so did 78 other people. Its not that he asked, thats logical considering his prison life. But the manager saying he didnt have to ask to go pee is bullshit. Everybody knows you need to check with your manager before taking a break, at least with pretty much every job I have ever worked at.
@@MichaelNNY congratulations, you jsut learned your personal experience doesnt account for everyone in the world
i for example have only had 1 job where I needed to ask permission to piss, everywhere else I just took a piss
@@tristanreimers423 What job requires your permission? I know that in Amazon you have to punch a clock every time you use the bathroom which is similar.
everyone is missing the bigger picture here, the time this movie was made in gives a clue to how times was back then, permission was needed, even more so if you was an ex convict, remember he is out on parole, if he set a foot wrong he goes back, rather ask than be in the wrong
The "asking permission" part is more due to the fact a prison's day is highly structured. It's one thing if he was on his downtime, such as at night, but during the day, everything you do, look at, say, work on...it's all structured, and permission has to be asked for every new step you take. So yes, you ask permission to go to the bathroom. After forty years, it's ingrained into you. Red was at work, a grocery store, but a store is still a structured workplace, in a sense. It's ingrained that, in a structured environment, you ask permission for everything you do.
It is very hard to Sin a movie like _The Shawshank Redemption._ That movie shows friendship at its finest, and at its most powerful. It showed just how much Andy knew Red, because A. He realized that it was likely he'd make his next Parole, and B. That if he did he'd honor Andy's request to go far, _far_ out of his way to find a box under a black stone in some distant field with a tree. Andy was leaving as little to chance as possible that would put Red in danger of being returned to prison after his parole. That was a powerful sense of trust to know for sure Red would take all these steps, because he knew Red felt the way he did: Their bond was so strong that they would not want to face the rest of their lives without being with each other. Red knew it too, that Andy did not just abandon him after blowing town. The time he took after his parole was just him needing to adjust and reconcile himself to the path he chose to take. He heard Andy calling him.
And as an aside, yes, please do _The Green Mile_ in the near future. I'm watching the film and reading the book for the first time, and it's nothing short of amazing.
Heck. I thought he did this because he was trying to do the greatest movies he hasn't done yet, and realized "Holy sh!+! How have I NOT done Shawshank Redemption yet? I very much enjoyed reading your comment btw. I've probably seen this movie a 100 times and you brought up things I've never thought about. I'd like to see The Green Mile would be a great one too. I have a feeling this is is Jeremy trying to cross off the classics, but if he isn't, he should be. As far as my nomination, it's tough because out of the many he has done there are still so many more to do, but I'll say...Scarface.
Also asking permission to use the bathroom is a safety measure, for example if there is a fire your co-workers or supervisors know where you are.
The one film I want to exist is The Long Walk. I've no idea how they'd go about it, but it could be an interesting couple of hours, then CS can watch it and be like 'AAAAAA Shawshank is a pleasant picnic next to this AAAAA'.
Andy with the rock to break open the sewer pipe, was parodied so well in Family Guy, with peter waiting for the "clap-clap-clap-clap" of the Friends theme that the warden (played by Carter Pewterschmidt) was watching on TV.
The Daily Bugle.
"He's a menace."
J. Jonah Jameson hated somebody before Spider-Man came onto the seen.
What? I'm too dumb to get this I think
He doesn't run out of steam does he 😂
@@cannibalbunnygirl 17:37
@@youngsirzo
Oh my Lord, I'm dumber than I thought 🙈 thank you 😊
Could you pay me in Advance?
@@stc3145
"You serious?"
“You can’t just make a person up!”
*I’M BATMAN*
And I’m dead😂
😁
😂
I lost it there too. 🤣
😎
Wanted posters were often hung on post office walls at that time, him avoiding the post office entirely is actually just a smart move.
Yeah, except I don't believe word had gotten out that he has escaped, and would in no way have had time to make a wanted poster of Andy by that time too. But he knew he needed to hurry, and figured getting the bank to mail the letters was worth a try, in order to buy him some precious time too.
Although I agree with this sediment, I BELIEVE the symbolism they were going for was that Andy had been handling all of the Warden's mail and stuff for years. Him asking someone else to mail in something that was the Warden's undoing while smiling about it is just icing on the cake #Karma
One thing that always bothered me was how cold and angry Andy was in the short trial scene. It runs counter to his general personality and, more important, wouldn't his lawyers have prepared him to be a better witness?
Not if his lawyer has been bribed.
@@petersilie304 There's nothing in the film to suggest this. I think that Robbins' presentation in that scene was a product of poor direction from a first-time director.
Why wouldn't you be angry in that situation?
@@leonpaelinck It's not about his not being angry. It's about presenting your best self at trial. Andy is too smart not to have known how to behave during his trial despite how he was feeling inside. Having him sit there in a cold-blooded manner was terrible direction.
Also I think that you should have REMOVED a sin for when Brooks released his bird, Jake. You're right that Brooks is a foil for Andy and Red, but Jake is a representation of the same thing Brooks represents. A free creature that has grown dependent of the walls around him. Jake won't survive in the wild, and neither will Brooks. That's some brilliant symbolism.
It's not immediately obvious, though. I think I only caught that on the 4th or 5th viewing. Some subtle reminder earlier in the movie might've been nice for that point to land home.
@@roguishpaladin i got it first time.
Missed taking a sin off when Hadley is actualy being read his rights because it was new and cops probably hadn't memorized them yet
Technically Hadley wasn't properly read his miranda rights they need to be read off of a card which they weren't
Miranda vs. Arizona wasn't until 1966.
Miranda rights are bullshit anyways
Yeah but if Andy went to Shawshank in 1947 and he was there for 20 years then Hadley would’ve had his rights read in 1967, 1 year after Miranda
@@jakegalvin3743 I'm getting at the fact the cop was reading from a piece of paper because he hadn't memorized them yet
“Have an apple; take life less seriously”. But if I eat an apple it will make me look like an-
Good one 😁
(For those who don't know, cinemasins always sins and comments when a person eats a bit of apple and throws it away ! " If I eat a bit of this apple, it will make me look even more of an assole" lol
Lol, I was literally eating an apple while seeing that, what were the odds 😂👏🏻
@@imaginativeIdeations (+1 Sin)
@@giri1478 IIRC they also sinned eating other fruits as well. Just eating in general with side characters to "make them more likable" (this channel's words) is also sinned.
Cinema Sins called Clancy Brown’s character “The Kurgan”….made me smile. Another reason why CinemaSins has 9+ millions viewers. Brilliant channel.
MISSED SIN:
The 2nd poster Andy has in his cell is a picture of Raquel Welch from the 1966 movie "One Million Years B.C." yet the poster is clearly hanging up on the wall when the given year at the time is 1965
If the movie premiered in 1966, promotional material could have been released in 1965. This poster would then imply that Andy is in a position to know about and interact with the outside.
it could be a promotional poster.
Then it would have text on it. This is the poster a friend had on his dorm room wall in 1967.
I did think him having that poster was odd, but it didn't dawn on me why at the time. Good catch.
Teaser Trailer?
I remove a sin for my favorite line "i like to think the last thing that went through his head; besides a bullet; was how did Andy get the best of him"
How did Andy manage to break open a sewer pipe by only hitting it a few times with a rock? Was the sewer pipe made of paper mache or something?
Well he probably hit it more than that but it was edited so we didn’t have to sit through 20 minutes of that
More than likely, as in many sewer pipes, it was a VCP...vitrified clay pipe.
Yeah, also how DID he manage to tape the bottom of the poster so tightly on his way out of the hole? I'm assuming he went headfirst, did he somehow secure it with his feet or something. I like to nit pick.
Also the sewage erupts upward, as if the pipe was air tight... which it isn't. But it does make a disturbingly gross visual.
@@crkrcksteady he actually didnt have to lift the entire poster. In one scene you see him lift only a bit of it to chip away at the wall. So he more than likely just had to lift it just a bit to fit through
Red's monologue at the third parole hearing always had me teared up🥺🥺
Can you imagine if they discovered Andy's tunnel the day before he was planning to escape
I always think that. Even now that I know how it ends I’m edgy they’ll find it. 😆
Or, as Red said in the book, what if Andy got paroled? Before the parolee walks out, his cell is cleared.
Imagine something else. One Mexican prisoner spent 6 years digging a tunnel to escape his cell. The tunnel opened up into the wardens' room... True story, there are photos on the Internet.
Bogdan Leshenko That’s so sad
Stephen erckel voice: did I do thayat?
CS: Sinning this movie is sinful
Also CS: *sins it anyway*
2:43 Also THAT voice crack
Are you the Avatar guy?
@@krm1930 yes, I'm avatar Trigger people. The next one after Korra
Oh cool, I'm fire lord allan
OK, because you asked: Why did the wife want to get a divorce in Reno, as opposed to anywhere else? The answer is because Reno instituted "no fault" divorce first, while other states and jurisdictions were granting divorces "for cause." Infidelity is certainly "for cause" but that only means that Andy Dufresne could divorce his wife, if HE wanted the divorce. It would have been granted because, IF he could supply evidence of infidelity, that was cause. That's the way it worked. Now, in Reno, there was "no fault" divorce. They would grant you a divorce for "irreconcilable differences" or even if ONE party wanted it, and NOBODY had to prove that ANYBODY was in any way in the wrong or doing something bad in the marriage. That's the point of "no fault." That's why the wife wanted a divorce in Reno, because Reno would essentially grant her one, "no questions asked." Anywhere else, and the wife would have had to supply evidence that Andy was the one cheating, or that he substantially abused her, or that his ability to maintain their living was in doubt and failing, or that they couldn't have children, because of him. Since Andy wasn't guilty of any of these things, and did not want a divorce, his wife's best bet was Reno.
I came here to post about this! Thank you! Reno was where WOMEN could get divorces because back then only men would have 'believable' justifications for getting a divorce.
@@rachellovesyarn9106 In the movie, in case you forgot what the video is about, Andy's wife is unambiguously cheating on him. He has grounds, she does not. Plenty of women got divorces before the 1950's, and not necessarily in Nevada, two of them being great-grandmothers of mine. Divorce was rarer before the mid-twentieth century, but not as uncommon as people presume.
This and many of the sins about prison life are all because he has no idea what he's talking about.
@@deepfriedsammich yes, I agree. Andy did not want a divorce so it would have been very difficult for her to get a divorce without his consent/agreement in many states, which is why Reno was popular.
Seems odd that a divorce granted in Nevada could overrule the marriage contract executed in Maine.
How could you leave out the BEST SCENE IN THE WHOLE MOVIE?! The ending is just phenomenal and definitely deserves a few sins taken off and to be shown at the very least.
it doesn't deserve to be in a cinema sins video at all
I was expecting 21 minutes of a screen that said “Nothing”
Or stuff that is canceled out by good stuff
Solar Analysis Wait what? Which case was this precedent based on? I’m legit curious.
@@ADTillion in the 50s it was a crime to commit adultery. They would often refuse to convict or would give light sentences to people who killed a cheating partner.
Tristan Riffle Yes, but, kill the person they were cheating with as well? What if that person has no idea they were sleeping with a married partner? Surely you’d need proof of that. One can’t be murdered for not even knowing about the adultery. In this movie, yes, he knew, but cases IRL? That’s just assumption without basis.
This is classic CinemaSins. This video is flawless. This is my favourite movie of all time btw and now this is my fav CinemaSins video.
Boggs was literally in the frame when you said he didn’t work in the laundry with Andy. DING!
I never actually thought you would sin this masterpiece.
ikr. what's next? the godfather?
@@tayeb7031 lol maybe the green mile or the untouchables is next, who knows 😂
A sin is still a sin. We need to accept this.
I love it when CinemaSins tackles the classics.
He didn't even get the good ones:. How did Andy make a hole in the pipe big enough to crawl into, and how did Andy know the pipe wouldn't have a grate at the end?
It's rewarding to watch this channel sin genuinely great movies because you can tell how much they like them
Funny how 11 minutes into the movie and there was 0 sins. Then I remembered this is Shawshank Redemption and it is natural.
11 minutes?
@@user-vr8fs8gg6h into the movie, not the sin video
@@dropkickmurphy4114 ohhn ok
Notification: Everything wrong with The Shawsh-
Absolutely Everyone: NOOOOOOOOOOO! That is the perfect movie!
Well, no movie is without sin
No, i was so excited when i saw it, been waiting on this for years.
Edit: not saying it's a bad movie, in fact it's my favorite movie.
I disagree with a lot of these sins
The part that always bugged me was when Andy asked Red to get him a rockhammer and tells him it won't be used for tunneling out because it's only 7 inches long. Red acts like he doesn't believe him and when he gets the hammer he laughs like he can't believe it really is only 7 inches even though Andy told him it was. And then, of course uses it to tunnel out.
@@b1CS same, although I was hoping he wouldnt sin it because its so good
You did it! You FINALLY DID IT, you jerks!
I'm from Ohio, where nearly all the filming was done. I've driven by the field where Red finds the box (the tree, sadly, was heavily damaged in a storm a few years back and finally fell over last year). In fact, the first scenes in the movie were filmed less than two miles away, at Malabar Farm. Malabar Farm is a state park and is also well-known as the home where Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall were married in 1945.
I remember when they filmed at the old Mansfield Reformatory (where, interestingly, the prison scenes from Tango and Cash were filmed a few years earlier). I've also been to the Wyandot County Courthouse in Upper Sandusky, where the courtroom scenes were filmed, but I couldn't get into the courtroom because it was locked for the day.
It is truly one of the greatest films ever made, and you guys did a GREAT job! Well done!
I'm also from Richland County. It is fun to pick out scenes where we are familiar with the places those were filmed.
The grocery store where Brooks and Red bag groceries recently reopened as a supermarket, and there are some cool artwork on the side of the building to highlight its heritage.
Anyone visiting north central Ohio should drive the Shawshank Trail and see these locations.
Man, all our area got was "Letters From A Killer". I heard that one didn't do so well.
I seriously can't wait until he sins The Godfather.
In Reno you could get a divorce after 6 weeks of separation. Reno also didn’t require you to live in the state.
The rest of the country, at the time, had really strict divorce laws. And it was extremely hard for a wife to divorce a husband if he contested the divorce.
"Why he picked Enchilada Night, I'll never know...."
The Friends theme when he’s waiting to hit the pipe...😂
@@Broncort1 And Red forgetting the name of the town exactly as they described here.
Cleveland!
@@Broncort1 lol
“The funny thing is, on the outside it was a great movie.
Straight as an arrow.
It had to come to CinemaSins to be a crook.”
Actually, it wasn't so great a movie before CinemaSins. That's your perspective, and I guess I have to respect it, but this movie has bothered me for a long time, not least of all because it's from a story by Stephen King.
@@prometheusunbound7628 What do you mean, that you don't like Stephen King?
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Wow, one of the consensus greatest movies ever, but I'm sure you think Donnie Darko was deep or something.
peter wilson hey now, Donnie Darko was great for a first time film maker! Prometheus is allowed to have bad taste in movies without bringing Donnie Darko into it...
@@peterwilson4865 what did Donnie Darko do to you?
"Brooks was here"
Made me cry
"In 1966 andy dufresne escaped from Shawshank Prison"
Made me smile
One of the funniest "reviews" you have done on any film. Very enjoyable and humorous. Poking fun at one of my favorite movies was worth my time.
"Then you think Cinema Sins is meant to be taken seriously" and that answers every question.
Judgement is spelled with an "e" because it's a quote from the King James bible
One of the greatest movie ever getting sinned? This gonna be interesting
'Why would you button up the top button of a shirt like this?'. It emphasises how out of place Andy is, how isolated from the other prisoners, and how he still thinks of himself as a banker and hasn't quite accepted his fate after one month inside. Maybe it even emphasises his innocence, metaphorical and literal. Immediately we see the contrast with Red, whose shirt is all over the place.
"Butt steak" is the name of a cut of meat, which fits the scene because it's what some prison wardens would call "fresh meat off the bus."
In the unedited version Hadley calls the prisoner "fuck stick"
Saying butt steak is just him trying to scare Andy about other sickos in the prison and funck with him and playing head games like a drill Sargent.
Neat
The "I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams" line was easily worht -85 sins.
“I hope.”
😭
"Does the Parole Board sometimes pause for tea?"
Yeah, probably. Or coffee, they seem the type to use a fancy pitcher for that too. Why not?
Shawshank is one of my favorites. Your narration is frigging hilarious!