I thought he was treated well. A high point for me was in the third season when he stood up to the Red Lotus and had a powerful last stand: "As long as I'm breathing, it's not over."
@@andrewwang8021 I think he meant Tenzin was dumped on by the characters. It's been a long time, but I think I remember that Korra and the others had a...bad habit of ignoring his advise and orders.
@@morgant.dulaman8733 its funny because if they even listened to tenzin everytime the plot wouldn't happen and peace would rein the authorities would save the day easily time and time again.
As someone on RUclips once said, "If Sokka was a bender then the show would be called, 'How Sokka stopped the firenation, and his friend the avatar was there too I guess.'"
I'd say batman. Because you have black widow and Hawkeye, who are weaker than captain america. But compared to the justice league, batman is considered the weak link, but still carries his own weight.
I don’t remember Katara ever being hated by the fans. Sure, they were annoyed at her being bossy sometimes and making bad decisions, but they didn’t hate her. Katara is way better than Korra.
I agree, I thought Katara was a bit of a hypocrite with her bossy attitude but that was it myself as well. Beyond that she was a very strong character who was very important and fun in her own right and really grew into a resilient young woman. Korra was irredeemably awful. Just a chore to deal with for everyone on screen and the source of about 90% of all the negative character conflict. Which is not okay for your main character to basically be an emotional bully from start to finish.
I am more offended that the worst character in Korra was named after Iroh's amazingly talented late actor, Mako. If you are going to name a character after such an amazing actor, at LEAST make the character a good one.
Yea, usually interesting villains are what makes a show worth watching. Without a compelling villain to challenge the hero, the stakes are nonexistent.
@@CrazeyHaze That's not true. Ozai was a one-dimensional Disney villain motivated only by power but the stakes were still high since his victory would mean the world would get f*cked up beyond repair.
@@vetarlittorf1807 "...USUALLY interesting villains...." However, Ozai was compelling and complicated. First, instead of just showing us Ozai right out of the gate, the show let his character simmer, and it built fear and tension over all three volumes. Most of his development was alluded to (and sometimes bluntly voiced) from commentary of past memories from his immediate family. The depths of his cruelty were literally on Zuko's face for the entire series. His narcissism and superiority-complex were demonstrated through Azula's behavior and entitlement. Even the Firelord's superior Firebending was visually exemplified by look of doubt expressed by Iroh when he mentions that he wasn't even sure that he could defeat Ozai, and of course, we saw throughout the entire series just how much of a powerhouse Iroh was. But yes, more power was Ozai's goal, but the path he took to get there was calculated, very complex, and not 100% guaranteed. AND even if Ozai wasn't a deep character (and he was), an interesting villain doesn't always need layers. The villain just needs to be almost unbeatable, so that there is possibility that our hero might fail; when the hero succeeds, it makes it satisfying. Heck, because Ozai's craving for power was so insatiable, it made him losing his bending (instead of death, which would have been good, but not as good) all the more enjoyable. Non-bender. A fate worse than death, at least for Ozai.
I think the people claiming everyone hated Katara are the only ones who hated Katara, they are projecting. Out of the main three Sokka is the least liked, you would think hating a man would make the woke happy? The cabbage dude gets more cosplays then Sokka.
It's the same thing Rian Johnson did when he defended TLJ by saying that Star Wars fans hated Empire Strikes Back when it first came out. Nope. You could find a few people that did I'm sure, but as far as the general fan consensus, pretty much the exact opposite of the truth, and anyone who wants to dig through old fan forum posts and such can find tons of evidence of it.
katara is better then korra katara has good things tales of bi sing sa the souther riders like one of the best eps in the show she has good momintes with toph and zuko and the end of the show with aang but korra is a flaming punk no good momints
Right? I don't like her that much in comparison to the others, but I appreciate her role in the group and I love that she can be the emotional support for so many. I always get choked up when she talks Aang down from the Avatar state.
I mostly dont like Korra due to the writing. It's a repetitive cycle of: Korra finds out a new villain, proceed to get cocky, proceed to get her ass kicked then magically win. Of course i havent forgotten about book 2 which the connection to all previous Avatars get erased
Billy's Brother it was there trump card, I agree the writers could’ve foreshadowed it but they didn’t. It made since in the show so it wasn’t just a magical power up.
She's annoying. The constant mom and fun killer L. But she is a beloved part of the story and her growing from an overbearing killjoy, to a competent leader.
Hating is a strong word. One of the good aspects of ATLA is that the main characters all have flaws. Katara is very bossy because she had to take care of her people at her tribe, and that aspect can become annoying sometimes. They even had a whole episode about her nature clashing with Toph on how to train Aang.
@@reilysmith5187 Right that's what I got from the story as well. I never got the impression that her character was intended to be disliked and none of my friends who watched Avatar hated any of the main characters. They were all really good characters.
@@bigdoubleu117 It's a new thing I've noticed since the resurgence of ATLA on Netflix. People saying she's a shitty character or a bitch etc. It's like damn are you really that stupid?
I guess I always considered the races on Avatar: the last Airbender to be ambiguous. Of course, each culture was inspired by a real world culture, but the actual characters in the nations (minus a few characters) looked like a mix of soooo many different races.
I always kinda thought that Aang was white, what with they grey eyes and Rounder Face type, But I never thought it important to the Show, and NYT always making shit about race, like, goddamn, man can we just enjoy the show
Yeah like which nation was the guru supposed to be from? The water tribe tends to be darker complected compared to the other nations, yet this guy was full-on Indian.
Just looks at the comments: Are you telling me in a series populated only by:Indigenous people, Japan, China, and Tibetans Are you telling me that they are STILL finding a way to say “white man bad” from it?
Hinatachan360 From them or me? Because if you mean me, I don’t care about people’s race, so I don’t care. It’s so much whatever to me. If you mean them... yeah I don’t know... my best guess is they hate white people more than they like Black people.
It’s almost like people of European descent didn’t invent imperialism, colonialism, or genocide and humans of all ethnic backgrounds are capable of these crimes... Crazy, I know. You have to wonder at the people writing articles like that, really, when the Air Nomads are so clearly drawn from Tibet’s culture and the real world’s Tibetans have spent the past 70+ years being crushed by the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP imprisons Tibetan monks and nuns in slave labor camps, harvests organs from Uyghur Muslims, routinely disappears its dissidents, and has wrought disastrous damage to its natural environment and that of its conquests. But the real story here is whiteness!
@@edoboleyn for that matter, the Fire Nation is based on Japan in the 1930s and 1940s. Another famous example of non-white imperialism (though to be fair, part of their motivation was that they wanted to sit at the "big boys' table" of the western colonial powers).
Hagane no Gijutsushi Yeah, the Japanese are certainly the best known Asian imperialists! That said, Asian history is dominated by empires. This is South Asia, but the Islamic conquest of India was probably the deadliest genocide in human history. The Mongols were conquerors and mass murderers par excellence. There are the empires of Southeastern Asia, like that of the Khmer. A Tibetan empire lasted from the seventh century to the ninth and gave the Tang Dynasty a persistent headache before imploding. China has been an imperial power ruled by different dynasties for the past two millennia and the CCP hasn’t changed that. Sorry, I hope this doesn’t sound argumentative. 8) I completely agree with you. Cheers!
@@edoboleyn Isn't it weird how Hollywood went from making one or two Dalai Lama or Free Tibet movies per year to becoming mysteriously silent on the issue once China started to let them make lots of money?
How about Africa? Isn't it a virtual Wakanda? That's what I was always told... Every place that doesn't have many white people are the biggest paradises on earth. I recommend leftists relocate immediately. On a more serious note, why are we the biggest idiots in the world? Do you think you can go to a Japanese theater and complain that there's too many Japanese people, without getting laughed out of the establishment? How about China? How about Zimbabwe? How about Mexico? Why do we have to be the self-loathing emo kids of the entire world? It's literally pathetic, and sad... Is it because we're spoiled and bored?
Ba Sing Se had aspects of Korea, and you can argue that the swamp benders might be Vietnamese or Laotian. So there's a mix. Also: Tenzin taking a beating to save his family was probably the best defining moment for his character.
I don't know, Swamp benders definitely seem to be based on Caijun /people from Mississippi and Louisiana. Even their music is based on Bayou folksong. They also have southern accents.
@@f_f_f_8142 Also, the Earth Queen's design looked very much like the Dowager Empress, which was one of the last rulers of the last Chinese Dynasty before the old monarchy collapsed. The fact that a dictatorship took power, with a policy of economic redistributism, paralleled the rise of the Chinese Communist Party if you ask me.
@@KennethSee I thought he was one of many great characters. I think his role as a major supporting character allowed for the writers to present only their best ideas for his arch, even during the show's lowest points, where other characters with a stronger focus had a mixed bag of plot points to work with. The strongest points of the show really had some extraordinary high points for all of the characters involved: with Tenzin's fight against the Red Lotus being especially powerful.
There were four groups outside the main nations, and you did get two: the group the Guru came from, and the Sun Warriors. There were also the nomadic thieves Sand Benders and the Swamp benders that act like Cajun/Hillbilly mix group. Also, I do agree, Korra is a FAE MORE INFERIOR show in every way.
I liked Legend of Korra a lot. It's not quite as good as the Last Airbender in some respects, but there are others that I thought it did a better job in. May we please have a conversation about that?
@@andrewwang8021 I also loved it for what it is. I'll always admit it has it's flaws but it's also sooo good. I love how Korra turned out as a character after growing up with no friends and freedom and being venerated as the avatar. People don't realize how that type of upbringing can damage a person and considering how she turned out it was quite good.
Speaking for Sokka, there's also the fact that his humor is, you know, relatable and understandable- Sokka is a cynic and an intellectual. He _is_ actually one of the smartest characters in Avatar, at least among the main troupe. But this also tends to make him somewhat jaded and a little snobbish, at times. So when he makes jokes, or does something funny, it's the sarcastic, biting kind of joke, or the humor is directed at him getting his karmic comeuppance. There's thought put into his status as being the comic relief. Bo Lin, meanwhile, is just "good-natured goofball who over-reacts to everything because laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl funny." He comes across more as padding and trying to fill space, and any time he attempts humor, it feels like it comes across as the writers going "please laugh, now."
Aaron Ehasz not working on Legend of Korra makes Legend of Korra none-canon in my opinion because he worked on Dragon Prince, and that series felt more like Avatar the Last Airbender than Korra itself.
I completely agree. I genuinely really like LoK- 20's inspired fantasy Asia is a setting I never thought I'd see, especially in media geared towards kids; the characters have a _lot_ of unexplored potential; it's fun seeing how much has changed since Aang's time, as well as seeing the heroes' legacies; etc. All tarnished by its canonicity. LoK makes a great "What-if" series, a brilliant writing prompt, and works great as a stand-alone series, but when viewed in the broad lens of the entire series and world, it actively detracts from the pre-established world of Avatar (especially when you bring in the LoK comics. Those were just bad no matter how you look at it, and spent 90% of the time trying to justify Korra and Asami ending up together. Like, I honestly didn't even care that much, the romance in Korra was always pretty bad, but then you just wasted my time shoving the same damn point down our throats for three full books.) I just finished the comics, so that last point's pretty fresh, so please excuse the ranty-ness of it, lol. Honestly, the comics of even Avatar are pretty bad, at least compared to the original show, but the LoK comics were just... sheesh.
Katara : So you're telling me .... You erased your former selves , in which you killed my husband AANG because you don't wanna Avatar anymore ? .... (Blood Bending intensifies)
@imuglierthanyou Well parents sure spent more time with the kids they have more things in common but they spent time with their other kids too. LOK made Aang look like that he only care for Tenzin, and neglected his other children. Aang wasn't perfect in all aspects he made some mistakes too, like scape from the air temple when he was kid and other stuff. LOK didn't make him look more relatable.
@imuglierthanyou they did give that feeling. Kya and bumi constantly comment on aang only spending time with tenzin and even taking him on trips alone. That doesnt sound like aang at all. Theres a difference between favoritism and duty. Aang felt that he had to teach tenzin cause he would be the last airbender when aang died. They made him seem like he never spent time with the others
@imuglierthanyou Whos getting angry? Im not. But if my memory serves, tenzin commented about all the "fun trips" they went with dad, to which kya and bumi replied something along the lines of "you mean all the fun trips *you* and dad went on together. Thats my problem. Even if aang spent more time with tenzin, they should be undersranding, if theyre not, well i dont know what to say about that. But for them to write aang off as a terrible dad with overt favoritism, and only taking one child with him on vacation is horrible. He surely wouldve taken all 3 as a family vacation, while every now and then taking tenzin to the side alone (if the others didnt want to join in) to teach him something about airbender culture. Come on aangs got a culture to bring back from the brink of extinction.
The villains/side characters were a lot better than the "new team avatar" in LOK. The "heroes" would fit better in some kind of B-grade Riverdale rip-off.
I was a kid when avatar the last airbender would play, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. My pal got into Korra was like "DooD, it's a sequel to avatar you can't not like it" I never liked Korra that shit always sucked
@@ShadowWizard You're free to think that way, and I agree about when they aired. But, as Sean says in the video, in retrospect Korra wasn't that good of a show seeing how much of a disgusting regurgitation Korra actually was compared to ATLA.
@@copocopocopocopo it was hilarious when Korras friend was hitting on the girl with twin brother he had no idea what hes getting in to later was running from her like she has a plague lol he was specially scared cause she jumped in to talks of marriage with light speed lol
I disagree with your analysis of ATLA message of anti-diversity, were it seems based on the avatar’s nature and Iroh’s observances, that the show has a ‘we should learn from each other’ and a message of cultural peace between nations, that while different aren’t so different they can’t get along. While not a radical view on cultural diversity, it was far from a ‘separate but equal’ segregationist message. The show demonstrated the importance of tolerance as well as many other incredibly important lessons such as humility and perseverance.
I don’t think that was what he was saying in earnest, I think he was being overly dramatic. The show isn’t anti white and how anyone could come to that conclusion is ridiculous. It can’t be anti white because only Asian people exist, so every other race would have to go too. It’s supposed to be Asian. And that’s fine. There’s four distinct nations, they all look vaguely to very different from the other nations and all wear only the color of their nation. Obviously this is just a stylistic choice and to make it easier for little kids to tell the difference between the nations. However if you boiled down the message in to the most basic and oblivious thing you could, the message would *more* go along with ‘don’t mix’ than anti white. We know that isn’t the message because the most powerful benders learn from other nations, Aang and katara being together isn’t seen as bad, on and on. However that still makes more sense than “the world would be so much better without white people” because it would have to be “the world would be a lot better if only Asians existed” and that’s…concerning. I think he was saying it to be ridiculous on purpose to show how ridiculous avatar is anti white is. At least that’s how I took it.
Obviously, as a villain, Azula was terrifying and scary, so easy to hate, but as a character, she's just kinda sad. Out of Team Avatar, Katara is probably the least popular, but it's by a very small margin. Out of the recurring characters, Mai or Ty Lee might honestly be the least liked, as characters, but by a small margin, since they don't get much character spotlight time. It'd probably go to Jet if you count him as reoccurring enough.
I cannot fathom how the SJWs mind process Katara. I am sure most people would agree that Katara is like the annoying nagging mother figure of the team. Some of us may find her annoying at times but we cannot bring ourselves to hate her. Katara's personality was also shaped by the fact that she and Sokka lost their mother at young age. Plus the Great War required these two to fend for themselves. I think Katara is an amazing character because her personality shaped throughout the show in a reasonable / realistic way. Aang and friends are essentially a bunch of kids who are forced to grow up in a very short span of time thanks to the events and lousy parents. Especially you Mark Hamill, kappa.
Umbuko DaJuko there is nothing wrong with katara. She literaly was the one that held the team together in the desert. She is the most caring and that defines her character. Being haterful towards someone like that just shows the kind of people there are.
I just finished Avatar for the first time about 20 minutes ago, and I don't think there's a single character I can say that I disliked. And the comparison about Star Wars is spot on. No plans to watch Korra.
I still come back to this video every now and then so I’m gonna comment on your comment from 3 years ago lol. Korra’s not a good show. People who like it aren’t serious about writing and canon and just care about cool fight scenes. Personally, I would rather write my own sequel than watch Korra or ANY of the comics that have come out since. Those are all mediocre at best, mostly bad.
@@allfather608 Your opinion is right. LOK is a great show - just as good as ATLA. Half of this fandom are just edgy douches who spend their time congratulating each other for enjoying a cartoon and demanding that anyone who likes another cartoon from the same creators is inferior and wrong.
@@hanburgundy4317 you don't have to like it but to say the shows garbage is pretty disingenuous i like korra as a character i found her more realistic in a way
@@hanburgundy4317 its not really as good so moot point. Yeah its an ok show but when it comes to rating certainly not. Your point about them being douche is meaningless as you don't say they are. Them being fair criticism of a show as inferior as korra isn't being a " douche". I have noticed you defend this show very passionately i can't imagine why as its at best and I'm throwing a bone on that, is adequate and barely that.
@@smoodwoofer Agreed. He's funny, but his reviews are biased, hypocritical bullshit that takes events out of context and disregards all given resolution to present a false narrative.
@@hanburgundy4317 exactly. the criticisms just aren't reasonable but he exaggerates it to insane degrees. I honestly think he depises strong female characters, well written or not. Same with that Lily Orchard person
As far as I’m concerned... considering how horrendously the legend of Korra shamelessly retconed the original series, TLOK is non-canon because it did not respect what the original series had established. That will always make it non-canon in my book.
imuglierthanyou Actually it was... very badly. ruclips.net/video/W5gGEWqO_Ag/видео.html But don’t take my word for it. Go to this link and go to the 15:22 part of the video and you’ll see what I mean on how they created a jarring retcon for the entire mythology of bending and it’s origins. And that’s just one retcon.
When Legend of Korra first came out, I refused to watch it. I didn't want to accept the fact that the old gang was either old and dead and how much things have changed. Last week I decided to watch it, finishing the series in 3 days. When it ended, it left a larger hole than the original Avatar did.
@@sbk6052 I forced my sister to watch it, and she regretted hating it. This video seemed to clown more on katara then the actual legend of Korra, because the only thing that’s actually clown worthy in the show is that love triangle. It’s not bad at all, but it’s just too much. They’re giving random ass background characters main protag moments while having a clusterfuck of a cast already.
Lmao people just hate on the show because of ATLA bias. They don't give actual reasoning and if you literally go check out MattCMG he shuts down pretty much any nitpicking that people spew out to justify their reasoning for hating the show with actual solid evidence, and goes to prove how A. People didnt watch the show and are just jumping on the hate train or B. People DID watch the show but can't get their dicks off of ATLA. Both shows are good, ATLA is obviously objectively better, but holy crap do people need to stop the hate bias on LOK.
How? Toph nope did you read The promise and Tophs metalbending academy the graphic novels they both show how devoted toph was to make a change and eventually going on to make change in republic city eventually regretting it and living in the Swamp to be far away and connected to her daughters at the same time Aang, nope he was trying to carry on the airbender legacy in Tenzen and in turn gave Kya and Bumi less attention, he wasn’t wrong he just knew Tenzen would be the last Airbender at some point in time.
@@isaku7321 Nah Nah Nah. The Fact that Aang had to come Back from the Dead to get put in this GARBAGE is Disrespectful. And it completely Devalues the Characters in ways. For example When they kept using Old Toph for Old Grandma Jokes
Chai Jaric if they made a prequel to ATLA would you say it’s garbage that they brought avatar Roku back. Avatars can talk to past lives that’s part of being an avatar. And how does making old people jokes disvalue a character when they are old, people in real life make jokes about being old when they are old.
@@w.s.659 Have you watched the Show. Korra broken the Avatar Chain. For the other Avatars they can Only talk to Korra. The Fact that Toph was Such a Badass when she was Older is Great. She is still one or the Best Earthbenders Ever. However Toph was also supposed the Help Korra along the way. Like Tenzin she was thrown to the Trash and Korra always got her way. Toph should've have been A Badass the Whole time but she's now a " cool Grandma" You obviously can't take Jokes can you. I talking about when Aang died and got revived by Katara. I'm saying it would been better if they killed him off, instead of creating the Garbage that is Known as Legend of Korra. And yes if the made a Prequel to ATLA and Brung Back Roku I would most Likely Dislike it. Since we saw his life story.
Korra is one of the worst avatar ever. I don't know why but whenever they try to make an empowering female. they always end up making the most pathetic character.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I remember when it got pretty toxic when they writers didn't Pander to the people who shipped Zuko with Katara. My cousin was one of those people and boy did she go on a tirade
I blame Nickelodeon they really fumbled the bag on season 2 but the ending season 3 and 4 are pretty strong. Background watch season 2 than carry on with the rest it really picks up season 3
Nobody hated Katara...EVER and I don't hate Korra even tho she's kind of a bad character. I can imagine people being annoyed with Katara cause of how bossy she was at times, but in retrospect it made sense cause in an enviorment where they're being hunted 24/7 SOMEBODY had to step up and be the adult in the group And Katara made mistakes that in the end contributed to her character developement, whereas when Korra makes mistakes its usually just to move the plot along And just to drive it home, aside from Korra and Tenzin I can't remember the name of a single new character from Korra, whereas I remember every important character in The Last Airbender That should give you an idea of how bland the characters are in Korra
Korra was a forced shallow character. She had everything handed to her including having a family, and yet very little in terms of personal ambition to develop on. She seemed to get more hostile with each season, and remained generally unlikeable in personality and activity abusing her power until the last season which by then made it too late to start liking her. I was satisfied seeing her get traumatized, and by the end was just glad it was finally over. And again, I was not surprised she turned into a lesbian. I called it from the start. Aang lost everything flung into a world he no longer recognized being the last of his culture. He endured a lot of hardship to gain all the power and wisdom he would need to restore balance to the world again. He earned his support. Would’ve been nice if his story went on just a little longer. That’s a real achievement unlike Korra with a limited and unremarkable cast
You didn't watch lok did you she didn't get things handed to her the only thing I can agree with you on is aang giving her bending back other then that she worked her ass off to get rava back and her bending fuck aang was givin the avatar state in a day and energy bending
@@allfather608 And yet you didn’t prove how she didn’t get things handed to her. She had a family and worked from home. She had the least angst getting to the first three elements, and was little inspiration overall. She only became humbled in the last two seasons when she got her ass kicked realizing being the avatar isn’t enough as she arrogantly expected it to be. And she is also quick to judge others. She was mostly cleaning up her own mess. And don’t take it out on Aang about the avatar state. He barely used it except when it really counted. She flaunted it just to win an air race able to use it at a whim like a toy. Nothing to respect about that train wreck. And not surprised she became a lesbian. She didn’t hide it well. I didn’t miss any point. Stop pretending you thought this through defending garbage and noise.
@@vernonsmith3609 you're point was that korra was handed stuff mine is that she didn't get everything as I've said she had she had to work to get rava back her bending and deal with ptsd plus so what if she could bend 3 elements all avatars are prodigy benders just look at aang he's the youngest airbending master got water bending in an afternoon earth bending in a day which should be harder for him and same thing with firedending and she did change in season 2 in season the beginning it sets up her not respecting her powers yes but after she learns to respect it hut what it means to be that avatar
@@allfather608 Getting Rava back is nothing. She lost her and needed help to venture the spirit realm with Jinora and Iroh helping her. Truly, Jinora should’ve been the avatar. She was everything you think Korra is and was too late to be by the time we reached the end of the series to care.
@@vernonsmith3609 Jinora has more emotional intelligence than korra, korra is tiring because she thinks about solving everything in the shit is the solution, she is unable to listen to the leaders, that sentence she said to the president "maybe your administration can solve this", what do you mean ? you created a problem, solve it yourself. the treatment towards her father is disrespectful she has never been him, and she prefers to hear her brother than her father, who in fact she doesn't even know well, and the worst thing is her mistreating lin beifong and being totally disrespectful invading her space and meddling in other people's family problems, she didn't follow lin to republic city where she would probably be safer aaaah she's tiresome, i don't think the villains' ideology is that deep, but i have to confess to every villain that beat her up me vibrated
avatar roku literally says "the four nations are meant to be just that, four." when sozin talks about "sharing" the fire nations peace and prosperity with the rest of the world.
And Roku was wrong in that department tbh... People were eventually going to be mixed and not just apart of one nation. Segregation is not a good thing.
@@qiralyncassette neither is domination. its one thing to integrate peoples into another culture its another entirely to dominate a culture and wipe it out with your own culture. the four nations each offered something different culturally to the world of avatar and when one got wiped out like the air nomads which offered alot spiritually to the world of avatar it threw the world out of balance. thankfully aang survived and managed to keep air nomad culture alive through Tenzin because if he just let his culture die by becoming integrated with republic city instead of letting it survive by separating it on air nomad island then koras journey would have been much harder if not impossible to overcome due to her journey being centered around a conflict with the spiritual world rather than the mortal world like most avatars. dont get me wrong this is not meant to be a commentary on the real world as in the real world their are some very archaic cultures that should be wiped out or changed. and even in the avatar world their are some cultural aspects of the four nations that should be changed and do get changed like the fire nations feelings of superiority or the earth kingdoms classism. but for the most part each nation offers something to the world of avatar that is good and needed and alot of that is lost in republic city. for example republic city is alot more like the fire nation and air nomads cultures than the water tribe or earth kingdoms cultures indicating that fire nation culture and air nomad culture in republic city has become dominant despite being an earth kingdom city primarily inhabited by people from the earth kingdom which ironically is what the fire nation wanted to accomplish during the hundred year war in the first place albeit without the air nomad influence. and this makes sense considering zuko and aang were the ones credited with being the founders of republic city. some cultural aspects of the other nations do remain in republic city but for the most part republic city culture is a mixture of the industrial and innovative fire nation cultures and the free and open air nomad peoples. theirs almost no waters tribe culture left in republic city and as far as the earth kingdom goes all that remains are things of an aesthetic nature like fashion or architecture. oh and even though republic city is primarily a mixture of air and fire nation cultures it is mostly fire nation. with the exception of the air nomads culture of freedom almost nothing remains in terms of their cultural attitudes relating to nature or the spirit world outside of air temple island which is why its a good thing they separated the air nomads from the rest of republic city so that their culture would not disappear into republic citys culture.
I recently binge watched all of the series on BluRay (I don't have Netflix, and didn't even realize it was on Netflix), and have been watching the behind the scenes bonus content and listening to the commentaries now that I finished watching it again (watched the whole series in a span of about 72 hours). I mentioned that I was watching it to my 10-year-old nephew, and his eyes lit up, saying how he loves Avatar. He then asked me if I've seen "the girl one." I asked if he meant The Legend of Korra, and he said that's the one, and I told him I hadn't. He sighs a relief and says, "Oh good! Don't watch it; it's terrible!" I laughed pretty hard! Also, the commentaries and whatnot so far basically say the whole show is based on 4 styles of Kung Fu, and they chose Kung Fu, because they practice it for real, always loved old Kung Fu movies, and so they wanted to make a show that was grounded in reality (they really drive the "grounded in reality/realism" home), but with a magical fantasy element, of course. The creators aren't even Asian/Oriental as far as I can tell, but that doesn't matter, because they love the culture around Chinese martial arts. Race doesn't even come up as a talking point for them, as it doesn't matter. They weren't even trying to push feminism or anything, either, they just wanted interesting characters relatable to the audience, and with depth/conflict. Boys and girls bicker over which gender is better all the time, and that juvenile tribalism is very relatable to children, so it's in the show. Even characters like the water bending master who seems bigoted and sexist actually isn't, he's just bitter that the love of his life rejected his marriage proposal, and he's man enough to recognize he was wrongly taking it out on the women of the tribe. He then agrees to teach her and Aang water bending. If anything, that teaches kids that someone who's mean may not even have a problem with you, but rather have a deeper pain from their past, and if given the chance for closure and/or reconciliation, may actually be a really good person. I had a bully like that in school when I was a kid. He used to beat me up every day after school, then my dad taught me to fight. I broke the bully's nose next time he attacked me, and he left me alone after that (sorry, Aang; violence CAN solve problems). Later, in high school, I got paired up with him for an assignment. It was tense at first, but then he apologized to me about how he used to treat me. He explained his dad used to beat him, and he was jealous of me having a dad who cherishes me. I told him the broken nose I gave him made us square a long time ago, and that I forgive him. We didn't become friends, but we had a healthy mutual respect after that. I'd love to claim Avatar played a part in that, but I didn't see it until AFTER seeing the live action movie well into adulthood. When I told my friend I thought the movie was great, he sat my ass down when we got home and insisted I watch the series, as I needed to understand why every copy of that movie aught to be burned, lol! Gotta say, after seeing the series, yeah, that movie was hot garbage.
@@andrewwang8021 honestly. All the videos I have seen about korra.. they never make any valid argument to why it's bad.. They just jump on the bandwagon of hate
@@Codemanlex I feel that most of the points they present are valid from a certain point of view. This video, for instance, emphasizes the stance that the Legend of Korra characters are largely cheap copies of the Last Airbender's characters. It's a stance that I disagree with, but I can see how someone may feel that way about certain characters. They may find my reasons for thinking otherwise to be inaccurate, but what matters is that we hear both sides of the equation.
Korra is basically Avatar world gone slightly woke before it went nuts with the wokeness in the comic lol. However, i do think there are good things in LOK as there are bad things, like with every other series really.
@@allfather608 actually, the old world was ok. The Legend of Korra's world building started to have real world stuff bleeding into it. In the comics, there were even representations of ethnicities in the real world, the authors even confirmed they put those representations there. Whereas, the original series' people, culture and clothes were only inspired. The author didn't much care for that and instead threw all the representation she could find into the comic. The animated series of Korra was still alright but the comic series was kinda...questionably weird.
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 I disagree the only American thing I can see in there is aang's statue lok is just the avatar world but evolved and you do know most eastern cultures are americanised right also yeah the comics are trash....
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 I don't really like the comics because it ruins korras character in the show but it's always been that way especially for avatar but yeah I disagree with you on the wolrd building of legend of korra if the fire nation could make tanks and a massive drill idk why its hard to believe they can evolve they can evolve
@@TheSaintsfan16exactly but the thing is most of the original fans weren't or didn't even watch Korra since most of the original fan base where kids and Korra release about six years after Avatar ange and I doubt that teenagers will be watching Nick
when you say "Kids" are you implying...like little kids would watch something avatar? like that series is meant for like around preteens would be a good estimate
@@TheSaintsfan16 I will respect the fact that you are a original Avatar fan but how can you defend Korra. every season she faced a new villan you don't even see them after there season and everyone is to over powerd it down plays everyone in Avatar ange seriously they somebody that can take way people's bending in the first episode only ange should be able to do that not just some random water kingdom reject
@@Jdudec367 have you even watch Korra and ange in Korra like three people were killed infront of us and one was a suicide yet in ange were not even sure if jet died or not
@@laughingeightball7676 well...ok yeah true same could be said about other cartoon like clone wars for example...not sure how many people think this but...in some children's cartoons death does happen and if the show has a set target audience that can handle that (ai around say 12) then it should be fine
Korras arc started in season 3, when she lost all interest in being the avatar. Season 1 and 2 of Anng was him running away from being the avatar.. But when he almost died, he took the job seriously.. But korra season 1 and 2 was her running head first trying to be the avatar.. She was a hot head, but when she was poisoned in season 3, she was knocked down so hard that she didn't see herself as a useful thing anymore.. It was only till she fought her fears.. that's when she was able to become the avatar that she was meant to be. Remember all this events happened to her in just a year.. 4 villians that wanted to change the world irrespective of it being bad or good.
For me "The Last Airbender" is the better choice because if I remember correctly this happens 100 yrs before Korra was even thought of before new civilizations and mixture of benders were at peace. This however, for me thinks that Korra didn't have much as a story or developed well as a character as for Aang his development was good since back then he and his friend were at war to defeat the Fire Lord. In my opinion I prefer the original.
The keyword is Aaron Ehasz the second he was out of the franchise the quality went to shit, and this includes the ATLA comics that came out in between the original show and Korra.
It's the villains. The villains are what makes this show great. Zaheer and Kuvira especially. It's impossible to do a fair review of this show without mentioning just how amazing the villains are.
@@lordshadow19 That's a backwards argument. Just bringing up Azula doesn't mean anything, doesn't disprove that Korra had great villains, and Azula better than all Korra villains is easily debatable
@@thawindyking2740 It isn't an argument at all, I'm stating my opinion that I think Azula is better than any of the villains we got in LoK. I didn't even attempt to make an argument, I just made a statement and made no attempt to elaborate on said statement.
@@lordshadow19 I agree that Korra villains are good (except Tarlok and Amon before discovered he is a bloodbender) but idn, i have a fall for crazy, psicopathy and scarely non-human inside villains sometimes. And Azula continues to be well 3 dimensional beside any glorifyn traits, a teenager who was corrupted by the madness and aspirations of his own ancestors Edit: Sorry for the bad english, its not my first language
The worst you could say about Katara was that she was controlling and worried too much. But these things are forgivable and understandable based off of her positive character traits and her backstory. Katara is a well written and complex character so there are aspects that are good and bad about her. With Korra they just took the bad traits and left out everything else. Bad recipe.
That's a hard no for me fam, Katara was among the most annoying and insufferable characters in across both Avatar and Korra I've ever seen. Her personality, character traits, and pretty much everything outside of some good character arcs were terrible imo. I didn't even want to see her on the screen 98% of the time
I'm trying to think of a main character form ATLA that could be considered "The most Hated character". I waited like 20 minutes trying to think of an answer to type. I got nothing
"[Mako's] biggest problem is that two girls like him, and he doesn't know which one to pick, and then they end up dating each other" "That's rough buddy"
What cements my hatred for Korra, as a character, was when she came out to her parents. Both her parents were happy for her but then her father had warned her about the realities of the world. That not everyone was going to accept her so maybe she shouldn't shout it out to the whole damn tribe. Instead of thanking him for the warning but saying she would be fine, she immediately thought he was narrow minded. It's like she was Ironheart and was jumping at the chance to be offended so she prove them wrong.
@@rhythmicmusicswap4173 False equivalence as during that time he treated Iroh like that, he was a villain at the time. Also, he didn't do that after 4 seasons worth of character development like Korra did.
14:56 Being angry for no apparent reason... Yeah, nothing special about him, just lost his parents and stuff, just barely holding on their lives being street rats for a decade. even when they found a job, they had almost no money and were living in the attic of the stadium. He has more then enough reasons to be the happiest guy in the world, Of course!
A correction. The Fire Nation is inspired from China as well as Earth Kingdom. Earth is Qing Dynasty where Fire Nation is closer to Han Dynasty as well as architecture and outfits based on Thai and Polynesian Islands. The only Japanese reference is Kyoshi Island.
The Fire Nation is an island nation with a strong navy that has imperialistic values and a strong honor code. You're tripping if you don't think they are inspired by Japan. Of course there is no 1 to 1 comparison in ATLA because many different cultures were blended together to create the four elementals nations but there is always one that sticks out more than the others. For example: Air Nomads - Tibetans Water Tribes - Inuit Earth Kingdom - China Fire Nation - Japan
@@satinsleeves See the problem here is your linking the other nations by their inspired culture and aesthetics but ignoring that for the Fire Nation. Japanese aesthetic and cultures are found on Kyoshi Island. Not the Fire Nation. If you're basing the Fire Nation on Japan because they're are imperialistic that doesn't hold much water since China has a huge history of Imperialistic behavior especially in the HAN DYNASTY where much of the Fire Nations architecture is derived. So no. Not Japan.
@@thegreatkrimpus6139 Never said they weren't imperialistic. I simply said imperialism is not exclusive to Japans history so it's not a convincing reason to associate the Fire Nation with Japan and not China.
I can't quite say I agree with everything you've said, but you did bring up a lot of good points. Was LOK better then ATLA, god no. Was it as horrible as people make it out to be, no. If were looking at it as a sequal to ATLA then I would understand some of the frustrations, but it seems that people forget that LOK was it's own show, trying (and at times failing) to build upon the prestablished world.
oh yeah, as its own show LOK is fine. Some good moments, some bad, but overall fine. But as a sequel to one of the most beloved animated shows of all time, just fine doesnt cut it. It was always going to be compared to ATLA. And some of the worldbuilding shit it did within the pre established world was just awful. My personal favorite is the fact that lightning bending, a secret art requiring a mastery of not only firebending but also complete inner peace, is now a poorly paid labourers position.
Well, as a series the first half was bullshit (even according the its fans), and the other half was good. So, a series which 50% is terrible really isn't good...
I found this premisse really interesting "What would an avatar do in a World that doesn't need him/her, and How this world Works" But making a show with this premisse requires a more mature view of things, instead of "this person bad, that person good", not only from whom is watching, but from whom is producing as well.
Here's my quick thoughts on Legend of Korra. Season 1 was OK, if rushed due to a budget limit. Season 2 was bad, full stop. Season 3 was pretty good. Season 4 was better than 1 but not as good as 3. None of them were as good as any of the seasons from the original Avatar TLA as a whole, but I enjoyed all the villains from Korra, minus Unalaq, more than Firelord Ozai. I like Korra, Bolin and Asami, but I wish they were written better in certain scenes. Tenzin deserved better. Jinora is the only one of Tenzin's kids that I liked. I wish we saw more of Firelord Izumi.
Yeah I like your reasoning better than the rest of these comment section thats just like hating it because the internet told them so. I completely agree about your reviews and the show suffers alot due to their netwok, lok was meant to be a stand alone series with only one season but nickelodeon keep renewing after a season was eneded. Plus the pressure on the writers because Nickelodeon keeps cutting their budget, salary, forcing to fire animators/writers. If it got the same treatment as atla, we could propably have more compelling story than that :(
@@ratfarm32 I don't really care about that. Its handled fairly well (as in, not the centre of attention) after the lackluster introduction. It could've been handled better, but it also could've been handled worse.
6:07 i disagree it doesn't suck :) for me it was good i didn't see any political messaging in avatar and neither in Korra well i didn't look for it neither i just enjoyed the show, is last air-bender better then Korra yes it is
It's debatable if ATLA has political messages, you could certainly make and argument for it if you look deep enough, but I don't know how anyone could watch Amon's grandstanding and speech making and come away with the impression that this wasn't about politics. In TLA is the very basic "imperialism is bad" message you've had in every fantasy story where the big bad is some form of Empire. And while you can draw deeper meanings from it, it's not necessary. Korra on the other hand is loaded with political messages. The Equalists are communists as described by an edgy 14 year old, and Zaheer is an anarchist by the same standards. Kuvira started off fairly compelling, but then quickly fell into classic fascist/nazi territory with her labour camps based off ethnicity. All the while the United Republics is held up as a shining beacon of liberty, and Earth Kingdom eventually follows their lead to implement democracy. The only Korra villain who doesn't reek of surface level political philosophy is Unalaq, but that's because the whole Raava vs Vaatu thing feels more like a God/Satan plotline, with their own "Dark Avatar"/Antichrist figure. Because what a cartoon rooted in Asian culture and martial arts needed was a big splash of 1920s USA and New York, and the whole "4 elements and spiritualism" thing to be grounded in a bunch of Christian imagery. Seriously? Why aren't the SJWs more pissed off about that!? And what really pisses me off is that if Korra WANTED to got the route of explaining ideologies, it would have been so easy. TLA was set just as the fire nation was experiencing the birth of the Industrial Revolution. 60 years on, this is the PERFECT breeding ground for a communist inspired ideology to evolve, especially when you start to think about the implications of bending. Benders are going to be much better paid than non benders, simply because the ability to manipulate the elements with your mind makes them far more productive in certain jobs, and there will be a clear divide between jobs that can be done much more efficiently by benders, and those that can't. This is exactly the kind of ECONOMIC inequality that lead to the foundation of ideologies such as communism in our world.
@@minerat27 i draw no parallels between real world and the show for me they were 2different things, i did not think about real life while watching the show just like in for example mcu movie i don't care if the hero is gay or trans as long as he or she was that originally and if its organic not like batwoman for example story and other stuff related to it are more important
Nah, you lost me when you said the show was 'anti-diversity' because Aang stopped the Fire Nation from "spreading their culture". What the Fire Nation was doing was the opposite of diversity, bruh. They exterminated the Air Nomads, wiped out all the water benders in Katara's tribe save for her, and attempted to wipe out the Earth Kingdom. How is that spreading diversity? Aang then goes on to create a fifth nation in Republic City where benders and non-benders can live together. That sounds like diversity. Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just pandering to a certain base? And the amount of approving comments is scary. People don't fucking think for themselves nowadays. A dude with a smooth voice and a halfway decent argument can persuade so many idiots.
If you watch some episodes again, you will see that the fire nation has a discret autosense of superiority throw the other nations, of course, disguised to not be much complex and mature to the children. Like in the episode of Haru, when the fire guard mock the earthbending, calling him as "this barbary that looks bending"(not exacly in these words, but similar), or when Iroh has to explain to Zuko that is possible to learn and took wise from other nations, like something that Zuko never learn or never thougt about in his entire life. Avatar the last airbender was work with a series of restriccions because of the age of the general Nickelodeon's audience, and beside these restriccions, some interesting topics were aborded throw the series, i would like to see wath Avatar should able to be with no restriccions. (Sorry for the bad English, im not a native speaker)
, Book 1, we were just getting introduced to the characters, the villain was dope but overall it wasn’t the best season and you know when Korra looses her bending she lost all hope in life, I mean what’s the Avatar without being able to bend, and some people say that Korra was going to end her life right then and there. Season 2 was bad TBH worst season of them all, the saddest part was all the Avatars being distroyed but I think it was good for Korra so she had to make all of her choices by herself and it makes what the Red Lotus idea flow more ( change ). Book 3, Damn some of the best villains ever except for Azula ( Duh ) the storyline was great, with Tenzin trying to get the Air Nomads back while Korra and the rest of team Avatar went to a whole new city made of metal where we learnt how crazy the Beifong family is. Book 4, mainly about Korra’s mental strength and having a villain who wants to create justice but in the wrong way. Her friends had flaws but who doesn’t, Bolin is anyone from our world that goes into the Avatar World his personality is calm, peaceful, and compassionate, Mako wasn’t the best character he was a messed up dude but he was raised by criminals so could you blame him really? Asami was a woman who worked hard and protects those who she cares about she might have been spoiled as a child but look3d down on by her father most of her life. I think if you want to watch Korra, skip Book 2, don’t think much about Book 1 but continue with Book 3 and 4 because they are by far the best books ever!
Remember when they shoehorned Korra into a lesbian relationship at the very end of the show and had her save the world with the power of lesbian kissing?
Not only is Mako a ripoff of Batman but he also rips off Natsu from Fairy Tail, because that character also fights using fire and wears a scarf because its all he has left to remember his dad by
I know this man did not just say that the message of ATLA is that diversity is bad. The main cast, team avatar, has at least one member from every nation, making it very diverse. These are the “good guys.” The message is very obviously anti-imperialism.
Ask anybody who has watched both avatar series and ask them to name off the main characters of each show, I can guarantee most people will remember the characters of avatar the last air bender but the legend of korra they will forgot or struggle to remember
I think it had interesting ideas, and a few pockets of good execution in isolation (eg. a lot of Tenzen's stuff, also liked the idea for the red lotus or Kuveria but I think they should have just picked one to deal with), but the overall execution dropped the ball hard. I think it's interesting that the people defending it usually defend the good concepts but admit the execution is lacking in a lot of ways, which means they are judging it by how good they could have been as opposed to how good it actually is.
Yeah, that's what usally happens when you defend something that deserves some criticism against people who say it's absolute trash and there's nothing good ever in it.
I love the show, but want to say that it totally depends on how you look on it. If you want to be overly critical, I can see why you hate it. But, in my opinion, you just watch the show to have fun. It's really underrated.
I have GENUINELY read at least 20 "Tumblr fanfictions" that had a better grasp on the characters and what makes them so compelling. I myself often refer to bad writing as "fanfiction versions" of actual good things, but when I actually look at it 90% of fan fiction, written by untrained 13-year-olds with no real-life experience, is far more complex and adept at characterization than the writers of (most) kids shows nowadays.
i think some people did not like her in season one but like ashoka from star wars the clone wars that quickly changed and she became a fan favorite as she grew as a character.
@@youcanthandlemyname7393 Disagree. Katara was a great charater through and through the entire show run time. The only episode she was most the mc like was with pollution episode in season 3 episode 3. The real problem with that espiode is that really hand fist sucker punch environment message. Even a blind person can't miss it.
One thing I didn't like was the aritificia progression of technology where they jumped from pre-industrial to early 20th century tech within the span of decades. They skipped what took centuries of development in our world
No they did not. If anything, the technology evolved slightly slower than in our world. And you fail to take into account that there was a global war AND the industrial revolution had already started in the Fire Nation in ATLA.
The Fire Nation was at least at Civil War-era technology, if not slightly more advanced. That's 1850's-1860's lever tech. Add 70 years, and we get the 1920s. Really, the more unbelievable jump in technology is going from 1920's-era tech to mid-1940's tech in the span of 4 years.
@@vetarlittorf1807 - If anything, A time a war would've been where the innovation came from. An entire century of war, You MAYBE could have gone from the avatar world to the Korra world, but 60 years of Peace time? Nah, Man.
@rubberkidney I am not sure if bending would speed up technological progress. Because by giving them advantages over nature they would end up not needing the innovation as much as our world. Even more when people from different nations begin to commute and their different bendings would pretty much incentivize certain works for certain people. Look at Mako working as a charger with his lightning bending. Metal benders make a lot of weaponry useless. Water benders can freeze and fire benders can heat. Many instruments end up being irrelevant if the problem can be solved by bending, which ironically, when lacking the development of those instruments, they may never achieve such innovations. I think that the progress in TLOK may seem unnatural but I don't mind it. Though how much the writers seem to have trivialized bending mastery curve ends up distorting any sense of consistency that may have been aggravated by the technological jump, even if the last was actually accurate.
@rubberkidney All I say is I am not sure. I agree it should be easier, but my point is there are less incentives. It is not a matter of curiosity, it is about attending problems that their society never had to rely on technology before. Look at Omashu, they relied on their earth bending for most the transportation, that would led to less investments in technology which would slow the progress overall. Also, the lightning bending need to be second to the invention of such machinery, before that there is no incentive (and no accessible way stated) to master such bending so I don't know if them being able to do that can be attributed as the cause for this particular technology. For last, I don't think the show is demonstrates what you state: the most notorious advance it had on ATLA was caused directly by the war, which created the need for such weaponry as the Fire Nation recognized that bending alone wouldn't be enough to siege Ba Sing Se, and the Mechanist, the central figure of engineering of the story, not only developed technology that tried to equalize his people with what the Air benders could already do if they were not destroyed, but he also did it by the needs of his son. But again, this is just a thought. As I said before, the differences between the two series makes it difficult to analyze how their society would accomplish such feats as the bending mastery curve became inconsistent.
istg kids and feminist should stop acting like everything is offensive. Fans of korra are under every ATLA video to promote their queen avatar and when we argue with them *we* are annoying and sexist?!!
@@saminouminou lol nah its the atla fans doing that most lok fans become defensive when atla fans attack lok especially when they do it by spreading misinformation like calling korra mary sue or bolin sokka which is infact false
Got Avatar and Korra both on DVD. I had never seen them, so I watched the whole thing and the Korra arc fell apart. Korra should've stayed with her power locked and then she had to earn them back. I like the idea Korra having mastered 3 of 4 elements as a child and it made her arrogant. That's good characterization. Taking it away from her would've been a great story to tell. What we got....not good. I don't hate Korra like the others but it was woefully inadequate as a series.
I thought the same thing! I remember thinking after she lost her bending "Wow, she is going to have to learn how to be a great bender with this element she is not especially talented at, then get the rest of her bending back. What a great idea to humble this character!" , only to have ghost Aang give it right back to her 2 minutes later.
The main reason that didn't happen is that the Korra show-runners didn't know they were getting more than one season until after the whole first season aired. They couldn't have left an unfinished story arc, if they weren't getting any more seasons. This happened again with season 2. They didn't know they were getting more seasons. That's why the stakes get raised too much and the stories are so rushed.
Andy Polasek well, if they only thought they were getting one season, they should’ve ripped Korra’s bending early on, so she has to earn them back through the season while also fighting Amon? (Idk how to spell lol). Or they could’ve just demanded 2 seasons or they wouldn’t make the show.
@@animeisdead Soooo, you wanted Korra to lose her bending early on so that she could slowly gain it back in a season with 12 episodes while introducing her, new characters, villains, and a whole new world do to all of the technological development? Cool cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
There's nothing wrong for a Character being gay ,bi or lesbian etc... Its gets frustrating when that's the ONLY thing the character is! like their whole personality revolves around being gay, bi, or lesbian and nothing more , they have no depth no goals, no flaws and are just flat out badly written characters . Which is why people need to write good characters that's just so happen to be gay, straight, bi, lesbian or anything .
@@hanniaru8io682 Yeah, that's basically what I said. Characters can be gay or bi as long as it's not forced down your throat or are made so blatantly in an attempt to be more inclusive. A good example is PB and Marceline in Adventure Time. It was a simple kiss, they had history together, people had good reason to ship them. But it goes deeper than that.
@@non1263 and Jules from euphoria! When korra and that other chick (I forgot her name ) came out as bi at the end i was like"TF why now?!" And super confused lol
While I agree Mako and Bolin aren’t great characters, the show is still great. Korra, Tenzin and Lin to name a few are fantastic characters, some of the villains (Amon and Zaheer) are amazing and there are many truly stand out moments from the show.
Tenzin is the most disrespected character in Korra. He gets dumped on constantly and it drives me crazy since he's almost always right.
I thought he was treated well. A high point for me was in the third season when he stood up to the Red Lotus and had a powerful last stand: "As long as I'm breathing, it's not over."
@@andrewwang8021 I think he meant Tenzin was dumped on by the characters. It's been a long time, but I think I remember that Korra and the others had a...bad habit of ignoring his advise and orders.
@@morgant.dulaman8733 i just rewatch the whole thing yes the characters do not give a fuck about what tenzins
@@morgant.dulaman8733 its funny because if they even listened to tenzin everytime the plot wouldn't happen and peace would rein the authorities would save the day easily time and time again.
i love tenzin, and tbh usually when hes right even if he gets dumped on he ends up being correct
Sokka is like Captain America. Compared to his god-like teammates, he may seem like a weakling, but yet he is the leader.
Perfectly put sir!
As someone has said, he's more like Batman. Captain America is borderline superhuman while Batman is supposed to be peak-human.
As someone on RUclips once said, "If Sokka was a bender then the show would be called, 'How Sokka stopped the firenation, and his friend the avatar was there too I guess.'"
king_ Tesseract YESSSS
I'd say batman. Because you have black widow and Hawkeye, who are weaker than captain america. But compared to the justice league, batman is considered the weak link, but still carries his own weight.
The stupid love triangle drama wasn’t entertaining and made me hate the charecters in general
I would resent some guy who bounced between me and my sister to then end up with my ex boyfriend. Like...WTF?!
SivSama yep 😂 idk why people would do that in general it but hey they keeps getting all these lovers so lucky them I guess XP
I almost pity Asami. She has so little self respect that she ended up in a relationship with the woman who stole her man in the first place.
Happy masks yay that’s like sad because she’s the one who caused the whole issue in the first place
@@jackstone1825 That's not sad.......it's f*cking weird, I mean, who gets into a relationship with the person who tried to steal your boyfriend ?
I don’t remember Katara ever being hated by the fans. Sure, they were annoyed at her being bossy sometimes and making bad decisions, but they didn’t hate her. Katara is way better than Korra.
Both characters are flawed but they shouldn't be categories from worst to best
@J Foster your right. I respect what you think on judging what type of person korra is.
I agree, I thought Katara was a bit of a hypocrite with her bossy attitude but that was it myself as well. Beyond that she was a very strong character who was very important and fun in her own right and really grew into a resilient young woman.
Korra was irredeemably awful. Just a chore to deal with for everyone on screen and the source of about 90% of all the negative character conflict. Which is not okay for your main character to basically be an emotional bully from start to finish.
Same the only thing that might be considered hate is people talking about how katara always talks about her mother and that it’s annoying
J Foster exactly I don’t think katara mother thing is annoying because it adds a bit to her character and shows how much she really misses her mother
Katara was never hated, what's wrong with these people
I know right
Legit tuber1414 Katara is one of the best characters from Avatar
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko I agree that's why I was so confused hearing about Later a hatetread.
She’s my least favorite but I don’t hate her. She just gets on my nerves but I’m not getting on her.
The only I didn't like was that she ended up with aang.
I am more offended that the worst character in Korra was named after Iroh's amazingly talented late actor, Mako. If you are going to name a character after such an amazing actor, at LEAST make the character a good one.
But, muh lesbians!
"Mako is a firebender packing so little heat he froze both of his ex's wombs completely."
- E;R
17:17 "Mako, two adorable girls like him, he can't decide who he likes, and they end up dating each other."
-Sean, AJW
Mako isn't a character, he's a plot device
I hated Korra the most personally. She never became appealing.
Korra's villains were more interesting than her.
Villains usually are more interesting than the hero
Yea, usually interesting villains are what makes a show worth watching. Without a compelling villain to challenge the hero, the stakes are nonexistent.
People act like they watch ATLA for Fire Lord Ozai.
No no you fuckin didn't
You watched it for Azula and her crazy ass lololol
@@CrazeyHaze That's not true. Ozai was a one-dimensional Disney villain motivated only by power but the stakes were still high since his victory would mean the world would get f*cked up beyond repair.
@@vetarlittorf1807 "...USUALLY interesting villains...." However, Ozai was compelling and complicated. First, instead of just showing us Ozai right out of the gate, the show let his character simmer, and it built fear and tension over all three volumes. Most of his development was alluded to (and sometimes bluntly voiced) from commentary of past memories from his immediate family. The depths of his cruelty were literally on Zuko's face for the entire series. His narcissism and superiority-complex were demonstrated through Azula's behavior and entitlement. Even the Firelord's superior Firebending was visually exemplified by look of doubt expressed by Iroh when he mentions that he wasn't even sure that he could defeat Ozai, and of course, we saw throughout the entire series just how much of a powerhouse Iroh was. But yes, more power was Ozai's goal, but the path he took to get there was calculated, very complex, and not 100% guaranteed. AND even if Ozai wasn't a deep character (and he was), an interesting villain doesn't always need layers. The villain just needs to be almost unbeatable, so that there is possibility that our hero might fail; when the hero succeeds, it makes it satisfying. Heck, because Ozai's craving for power was so insatiable, it made him losing his bending (instead of death, which would have been good, but not as good) all the more enjoyable. Non-bender. A fate worse than death, at least for Ozai.
Katara was a beloved character these people are really reaching
yeah when he showed the tweet i was scratching my head thinking "since when did people hate Katara?"
I think the people claiming everyone hated Katara are the only ones who hated Katara, they are projecting. Out of the main three Sokka is the least liked, you would think hating a man would make the woke happy? The cabbage dude gets more cosplays then Sokka.
Seriously. For at least a few people she was basically babby's first waifu.
I always thought she was a really well liked character. It’s baffling that people act like she was hated when I didn’t notice anything of the sort.
It's the same thing Rian Johnson did when he defended TLJ by saying that Star Wars fans hated Empire Strikes Back when it first came out. Nope. You could find a few people that did I'm sure, but as far as the general fan consensus, pretty much the exact opposite of the truth, and anyone who wants to dig through old fan forum posts and such can find tons of evidence of it.
who hates katara? who dislikes katara? i know some people dislike her personality but do people just dislike her whole character?
how could anyone hate katara. sure she is slightly annoying at times but she is still amazing
katara is better then korra katara has good things tales of bi sing sa the souther riders like one of the best eps in the show she has good momintes with toph and zuko and the end of the show with aang but korra is a flaming punk no good momints
@@korrapithani9930 korra definitely had one or two moments like her talking to the airbender guy tho, give her a lil credit
@@generalyahya_ ok
Right? I don't like her that much in comparison to the others, but I appreciate her role in the group and I love that she can be the emotional support for so many. I always get choked up when she talks Aang down from the Avatar state.
I mostly dont like Korra due to the writing. It's a repetitive cycle of: Korra finds out a new villain, proceed to get cocky, proceed to get her ass kicked then magically win.
Of course i havent forgotten about book 2 which the connection to all previous Avatars get erased
She never magically won in s3 and s4
@@golf100 yes zaheer was beaten by the airbenders, right?
mitchell avontuur those airbenders were introduced in the beginning of the series so how was that a magically winned it made since.
@@golf100 they came out of nowhere after Zaheer was suffocating Korra
What a coincidence!
Billy's Brother it was there trump card, I agree the writers could’ve foreshadowed it but they didn’t. It made since in the show so it wasn’t just a magical power up.
Soka defeated the Combustion Man. That was very badass.
Awww, boomerang
His name is Combustion Man get it right!!! Silly neckbeard lol jk jk
@@BlueSun292 Lmao.
@@FGj-xj7rd so many good characters in that show.
@@BlueSun292 i prefer sparky, sparky boom man.
Amaterasu was very important in Japanese mythology and she was a Sun goddess.
Also I've never heard of anybody hating Katara.
She's annoying. The constant mom and fun killer
L. But she is a beloved part of the story and her growing from an overbearing killjoy, to a competent leader.
Hating is a strong word. One of the good aspects of ATLA is that the main characters all have flaws. Katara is very bossy because she had to take care of her people at her tribe, and that aspect can become annoying sometimes. They even had a whole episode about her nature clashing with Toph on how to train Aang.
@@reilysmith5187 Right that's what I got from the story as well. I never got the impression that her character was intended to be disliked and none of my friends who watched Avatar hated any of the main characters. They were all really good characters.
Thats what I was confused about. I didn't know anyone that hated Katara
@@bigdoubleu117 It's a new thing I've noticed since the resurgence of ATLA on Netflix. People saying she's a shitty character or a bitch etc. It's like damn are you really that stupid?
I guess I always considered the races on Avatar: the last Airbender to be ambiguous. Of course, each culture was inspired by a real world culture, but the actual characters in the nations (minus a few characters) looked like a mix of soooo many different races.
I always kinda thought that Aang was white, what with they grey eyes and Rounder Face type, But I never thought it important to the Show, and NYT always making shit about race, like, goddamn, man can we just enjoy the show
@@УрошКалиниченко the NY Times is a racist publication that hires actual anti-white racists.
The only races really not depicted are African and Hispanic ( aside from the sun warriors)
@@lordshadow19 - they've ALWAYS been corrupt liars. They lied about the Holodomor as far back as 1932!
Yeah like which nation was the guru supposed to be from? The water tribe tends to be darker complected compared to the other nations, yet this guy was full-on Indian.
Just looks at the comments:
Are you telling me in a series populated only by:Indigenous people, Japan, China, and Tibetans
Are you telling me that they are STILL finding a way to say “white man bad” from it?
I noticed that there's no mention of there being no Black people either. Weird.
Hinatachan360 From them or me? Because if you mean me, I don’t care about people’s race, so I don’t care. It’s so much whatever to me.
If you mean them... yeah I don’t know... my best guess is they hate white people more than they like Black people.
@@blackchibisan8116 From the article of course.
@@Hinatachan360 Technically, the sand benders are based on a black culture.
The show talked about colonization and erasure of culture but if the villains were Asian then I don't think that means "white man bad" either.
"Avatar imagines a world free of whiteness"
Avatar's world has colonialism, imperialism, and attempted genocide. So... same as ours anyway?
It’s almost like people of European descent didn’t invent imperialism, colonialism, or genocide and humans of all ethnic backgrounds are capable of these crimes... Crazy, I know.
You have to wonder at the people writing articles like that, really, when the Air Nomads are so clearly drawn from Tibet’s culture and the real world’s Tibetans have spent the past 70+ years being crushed by the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP imprisons Tibetan monks and nuns in slave labor camps, harvests organs from Uyghur Muslims, routinely disappears its dissidents, and has wrought disastrous damage to its natural environment and that of its conquests. But the real story here is whiteness!
@@edoboleyn for that matter, the Fire Nation is based on Japan in the 1930s and 1940s. Another famous example of non-white imperialism (though to be fair, part of their motivation was that they wanted to sit at the "big boys' table" of the western colonial powers).
Hagane no Gijutsushi Yeah, the Japanese are certainly the best known Asian imperialists!
That said, Asian history is dominated by empires. This is South Asia, but the Islamic conquest of India was probably the deadliest genocide in human history.
The Mongols were conquerors and mass murderers par excellence. There are the empires of Southeastern Asia, like that of the Khmer. A Tibetan empire lasted from the seventh century to the ninth and gave the Tang Dynasty a persistent headache before imploding. China has been an imperial power ruled by different dynasties for the past two millennia and the CCP hasn’t changed that.
Sorry, I hope this doesn’t sound argumentative. 8) I completely agree with you. Cheers!
this was also part of asian history
@@edoboleyn Isn't it weird how Hollywood went from making one or two Dalai Lama or Free Tibet movies per year to becoming mysteriously silent on the issue once China started to let them make lots of money?
“A world without Whiteness” yeah because China and North Korea are such a benevolent nations😩
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Chinese government, why would anyone say otherwise?
*ding social credit score: +5
How about Africa? Isn't it a virtual Wakanda? That's what I was always told...
Every place that doesn't have many white people are the biggest paradises on earth.
I recommend leftists relocate immediately.
On a more serious note, why are we the biggest idiots in the world? Do you think you can go to a Japanese theater and complain that there's too many Japanese people, without getting laughed out of the establishment? How about China? How about Zimbabwe? How about Mexico?
Why do we have to be the self-loathing emo kids of the entire world? It's literally pathetic, and sad... Is it because we're spoiled and bored?
@@dudeinco
Every African dictatorship is in the pocket of China
@@KanishQQuotes FTW!
Everytime I argue with an anti-gunner, they always bring up the UK, Australia, or Japan. I ask them about China or NK and they never have a response.
Ba Sing Se had aspects of Korea, and you can argue that the swamp benders might be Vietnamese or Laotian. So there's a mix.
Also: Tenzin taking a beating to save his family was probably the best defining moment for his character.
I don't know, Swamp benders definitely seem to be based on Caijun /people from Mississippi and Louisiana. Even their music is based on Bayou folksong. They also have southern accents.
Secret police and brainwashing are not exclusive to North Korea. It still totally fits with China.
@@f_f_f_8142 Also, the Earth Queen's design looked very much like the Dowager Empress, which was one of the last rulers of the last Chinese Dynasty before the old monarchy collapsed. The fact that a dictatorship took power, with a policy of economic redistributism, paralleled the rise of the Chinese Communist Party if you ask me.
Tenzin was the best character of LOK. I would have rather him be the main character.
@@KennethSee I thought he was one of many great characters. I think his role as a major supporting character allowed for the writers to present only their best ideas for his arch, even during the show's lowest points, where other characters with a stronger focus had a mixed bag of plot points to work with. The strongest points of the show really had some extraordinary high points for all of the characters involved: with Tenzin's fight against the Red Lotus being especially powerful.
There were four groups outside the main nations, and you did get two: the group the Guru came from, and the Sun Warriors. There were also the nomadic thieves Sand Benders and the Swamp benders that act like Cajun/Hillbilly mix group. Also, I do agree, Korra is a FAE MORE INFERIOR show in every way.
The Swamp benders are like Nanmen I thought. If it's based on asian cultures at least.
Don’t forget their world’s version of the Illuminati, that white lotus group
I liked Legend of Korra a lot. It's not quite as good as the Last Airbender in some respects, but there are others that I thought it did a better job in. May we please have a conversation about that?
@@andrewwang8021 I also loved it for what it is. I'll always admit it has it's flaws but it's also sooo good. I love how Korra turned out as a character after growing up with no friends and freedom and being venerated as the avatar. People don't realize how that type of upbringing can damage a person and considering how she turned out it was quite good.
@@brunoss.3273 Thank you for pointing out her upbringing. I feel that many of her critics don't adequately consider that aspect of her character.
Speaking for Sokka, there's also the fact that his humor is, you know, relatable and understandable- Sokka is a cynic and an intellectual. He _is_ actually one of the smartest characters in Avatar, at least among the main troupe. But this also tends to make him somewhat jaded and a little snobbish, at times. So when he makes jokes, or does something funny, it's the sarcastic, biting kind of joke, or the humor is directed at him getting his karmic comeuppance. There's thought put into his status as being the comic relief.
Bo Lin, meanwhile, is just "good-natured goofball who over-reacts to everything because laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl funny." He comes across more as padding and trying to fill space, and any time he attempts humor, it feels like it comes across as the writers going "please laugh, now."
Bro what Bo Lin was good comic reloef and an amazing character....FOR A SIDE CHARACTER...
@@jordanrobshaw1406 he was horrible what are you on, even for a side character
@@chadretention8024 no I was trash talking him he sucks
@@jordanrobshaw1406 oh ok sorry I misunderstood, literally every character except tenzin and varick (I like his charisma) were garbage
@@chadretention8024 I agree, also ,nice pfp
"Kora SUCKS and you should HATE it."
Way ahead of you, buddy.
*bro katara is literally one of the most liked characters in the series*
I honestly don't know why
@@thawindyking2740 most human character, is pretty and is a good contrast to Angg
@@thawindyking2740 Bah she was annoying to alot
@@x97k8 It was realistic
Yeah, most people thought she was "best girl" so to speak.
Aaron Ehasz, the writer of ATLA, didn't have anything to do with Korra
Aaron Ehasz not working on Legend of Korra makes Legend of Korra none-canon in my opinion because he worked on Dragon Prince, and that series felt more like Avatar the Last Airbender than Korra itself.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr I agree completely, and in a weird way thinking of it as non canon helps me like it more
I completely agree. I genuinely really like LoK- 20's inspired fantasy Asia is a setting I never thought I'd see, especially in media geared towards kids; the characters have a _lot_ of unexplored potential; it's fun seeing how much has changed since Aang's time, as well as seeing the heroes' legacies; etc.
All tarnished by its canonicity.
LoK makes a great "What-if" series, a brilliant writing prompt, and works great as a stand-alone series, but when viewed in the broad lens of the entire series and world, it actively detracts from the pre-established world of Avatar (especially when you bring in the LoK comics. Those were just bad no matter how you look at it, and spent 90% of the time trying to justify Korra and Asami ending up together. Like, I honestly didn't even care that much, the romance in Korra was always pretty bad, but then you just wasted my time shoving the same damn point down our throats for three full books.)
I just finished the comics, so that last point's pretty fresh, so please excuse the ranty-ness of it, lol. Honestly, the comics of even Avatar are pretty bad, at least compared to the original show, but the LoK comics were just... sheesh.
So that's why Korra sucked.
Oop
Katara : So you're telling me .... You erased your former selves , in which you killed my husband AANG because you don't wanna Avatar anymore ? ....
(Blood Bending intensifies)
Korra was never seen again
The way they did Toph in LOK, was so disheartening.
They did my boi aang dirty too, tried to make him be a bad dad, that ain't right
@imuglierthanyou Well parents sure spent more time with the kids they have more things in common but they spent time with their other kids too. LOK made Aang look like that he only care for Tenzin, and neglected his other children. Aang wasn't perfect in all aspects he made some mistakes too, like scape from the air temple when he was kid and other stuff. LOK didn't make him look more relatable.
@imuglierthanyou they did give that feeling. Kya and bumi constantly comment on aang only spending time with tenzin and even taking him on trips alone. That doesnt sound like aang at all.
Theres a difference between favoritism and duty. Aang felt that he had to teach tenzin cause he would be the last airbender when aang died. They made him seem like he never spent time with the others
@imuglierthanyou
Whos getting angry? Im not. But if my memory serves, tenzin commented about all the "fun trips" they went with dad, to which kya and bumi replied something along the lines of "you mean all the fun trips *you* and dad went on together. Thats my problem. Even if aang spent more time with tenzin, they should be undersranding, if theyre not, well i dont know what to say about that. But for them to write aang off as a terrible dad with overt favoritism, and only taking one child with him on vacation is horrible. He surely wouldve taken all 3 as a family vacation, while every now and then taking tenzin to the side alone (if the others didnt want to join in) to teach him something about airbender culture. Come on aangs got a culture to bring back from the brink of extinction.
Because they somehow ruined her character? Maybe if you're some kind of peasant who has the thought depth of a slice of cheese.
The villains/side characters were a lot better than the "new team avatar" in LOK. The "heroes" would fit better in some kind of B-grade Riverdale rip-off.
Yea 👍
I was a kid when avatar the last airbender would play, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. My pal got into Korra was like "DooD, it's a sequel to avatar you can't not like it"
I never liked Korra that shit always sucked
i like both avatar and korra both were fun when the aired
@@ShadowWizard You're free to think that way, and I agree about when they aired. But, as Sean says in the video, in retrospect Korra wasn't that good of a show seeing how much of a disgusting regurgitation Korra actually was compared to ATLA.
@@copocopocopocopo sure ang's part was better but korra didn't suck like the title says
@@copocopocopocopo it was hilarious when Korras friend was hitting on the girl with twin brother he had no idea what hes getting in to later was running from her like she has a plague lol he was specially scared cause she jumped in to talks of marriage with light speed lol
😆
I disagree with your analysis of ATLA message of anti-diversity, were it seems based on the avatar’s nature and Iroh’s observances, that the show has a ‘we should learn from each other’ and a message of cultural peace between nations, that while different aren’t so different they can’t get along. While not a radical view on cultural diversity, it was far from a ‘separate but equal’ segregationist message. The show demonstrated the importance of tolerance as well as many other incredibly important lessons such as humility and perseverance.
Yeah i was thinking that too
100%
Your asking a conservative to think with something other than their wallet. You might as well be trying to turn Azula into an airbender.
it does not make senes he said 100%
I don’t think that was what he was saying in earnest, I think he was being overly dramatic. The show isn’t anti white and how anyone could come to that conclusion is ridiculous. It can’t be anti white because only Asian people exist, so every other race would have to go too. It’s supposed to be Asian. And that’s fine. There’s four distinct nations, they all look vaguely to very different from the other nations and all wear only the color of their nation. Obviously this is just a stylistic choice and to make it easier for little kids to tell the difference between the nations. However if you boiled down the message in to the most basic and oblivious thing you could, the message would *more* go along with ‘don’t mix’ than anti white. We know that isn’t the message because the most powerful benders learn from other nations, Aang and katara being together isn’t seen as bad, on and on. However that still makes more sense than “the world would be so much better without white people” because it would have to be “the world would be a lot better if only Asians existed” and that’s…concerning. I think he was saying it to be ridiculous on purpose to show how ridiculous avatar is anti white is. At least that’s how I took it.
Lmao I love how you didn't say shit about Asami because she's barely even a character for most of the show
Not even worth saying lol
Share some tea 🍵
Most hated: katara? Whoever wrote that needs to be smacked hard. Katara may not be best girl, but I’d say Azula is most hated.
Clearly their not a real fan of the show.
Obviously, as a villain, Azula was terrifying and scary, so easy to hate, but as a character, she's just kinda sad.
Out of Team Avatar, Katara is probably the least popular, but it's by a very small margin.
Out of the recurring characters, Mai or Ty Lee might honestly be the least liked, as characters, but by a small margin, since they don't get much character spotlight time. It'd probably go to Jet if you count him as reoccurring enough.
@@InfernosReaper People love Ty Lee, because she is just sweet.
@@InfernosReaper out of team avatar Suki is the most disliked. She isn't hated she's just not that good compared to the others
@@billysbrother6047 probably because she's *barely* in Team Avatar
I cannot fathom how the SJWs mind process Katara. I am sure most people would agree that Katara is like the annoying nagging mother figure of the team. Some of us may find her annoying at times but we cannot bring ourselves to hate her. Katara's personality was also shaped by the fact that she and Sokka lost their mother at young age. Plus the Great War required these two to fend for themselves.
I think Katara is an amazing character because her personality shaped throughout the show in a reasonable / realistic way. Aang and friends are essentially a bunch of kids who are forced to grow up in a very short span of time thanks to the events and lousy parents. Especially you Mark Hamill, kappa.
Umbuko DaJuko there is nothing wrong with katara. She literaly was the one that held the team together in the desert. She is the most caring and that defines her character. Being haterful towards someone like that just shows the kind of people there are.
The woke mind virus had them process her and Korra as black chicks 😅
@YounglandooI didn't like her but I didn't hate her either
Plot twist she's gay. So is every other Avatar. In fact Zucko also gay. The mugger in Ba Sing Sae also gay. Uncle Iro was gay for his gay son.
Ooooh that's why air benders are so rare! They don't procreate, because of all the gay
I knew it!!!
So what you're saying is Avatar is super homophobic?
@@Theevil6ify you say it like it is a bad thing.
@@Shu577 you know what...
Dave Filoni must’ve came in and wrote Tenzen’s character and then just left after that.
I feel he was the one driving the story
Brian and Martin are animators first
Yeah Aaron and his Wife and the other writers were way better than Bryke.
@@colintahbaz1292 Ben 10 reboot>avatar korra
@@bulletprince3604 dafuq?
@@bulletprince3604 nvm I get it, they both suck lol
I just finished Avatar for the first time about 20 minutes ago, and I don't think there's a single character I can say that I disliked. And the comparison about Star Wars is spot on. No plans to watch Korra.
I still come back to this video every now and then so I’m gonna comment on your comment from 3 years ago lol. Korra’s not a good show. People who like it aren’t serious about writing and canon and just care about cool fight scenes. Personally, I would rather write my own sequel than watch Korra or ANY of the comics that have come out since. Those are all mediocre at best, mostly bad.
If ATLA was a masterpiece LOK is a B flick at best.
I mean... atla IS a masterpiece and lok IS a B flick
@@michaelbfdiiwong523 I disagree lok is better then most out there in my opinion
@@allfather608
Your opinion is right. LOK is a great show - just as good as ATLA. Half of this fandom are just edgy douches who spend their time congratulating each other for enjoying a cartoon and demanding that anyone who likes another cartoon from the same creators is inferior and wrong.
@@hanburgundy4317 you don't have to like it but to say the shows garbage is pretty disingenuous i like korra as a character i found her more realistic in a way
@@hanburgundy4317 its not really as good so moot point. Yeah its an ok show but when it comes to rating certainly not. Your point about them being douche is meaningless as you don't say they are. Them being fair criticism of a show as inferior as korra isn't being a " douche". I have noticed you defend this show very passionately i can't imagine why as its at best and I'm throwing a bone on that, is adequate and barely that.
“tHe sHoW iS fREE oF WhItEnESS” *laughs in swamp dwellers*
Omfg ur right
Ur Krillin pfp lol
Those weren't whites.
@@DrCash7 they were also not black
I keep hear 'Legend of Whorra' when you say 'Legend of Korra'
Thanks E;R.
The teachings of Sifu E;R will be etched in our hearts.
that guy sucks
@@smoodwoofer
Agreed. He's funny, but his reviews are biased, hypocritical bullshit that takes events out of context and disregards all given resolution to present a false narrative.
@@hanburgundy4317 exactly. the criticisms just aren't reasonable but he exaggerates it to insane degrees. I honestly think he depises strong female characters, well written or not. Same with that Lily Orchard person
@@smoodwoofer Exactly E;R and Lily Orcahd are perfect examples of extreme people on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
The only good thing to come out of Korra were Tenzin, his kids (Meelo was hilarious) and Tenzin’s siblings!
So, just tenzins time tree is the only good thing in the show
Well zaheer was also pretty good in my opinion.
Meelo is honestly annoying for me
ProxKei frick u
@@shshsgahs946 y
Everyone of the main characters in AtLA had an arc, LoK characters were stale.
There's only one LoK and it's the Legacy of Kain.
The Boulder Redemption Arc > TLOK
@@MrJakku26
The coin fell on its edge, I guess.
CrackshotMax bruh I love this comment
I like the Legend of Korra's characters quite a bit. May we please have a conservation about that?
“As long as I’m breathing, it’s not over”
- Tenzin defending his family.
Literally the only good part of the show I remember.
What about Zuko reuniting with Iroh in the Spirit World?
Wyatt Hill
Kind of just felt like nostalgia bait for me.
Neat and wholesome, but that’s it.
The music was good imo. Also Lavabending.
Jinora getting tattoos was nice
@@powerjolt7215 the violins were annoying, much prefer the drums in ATLA. Just my personal taste
As far as I’m concerned... considering how horrendously the legend of Korra shamelessly retconed the original series, TLOK is non-canon because it did not respect what the original series had established. That will always make it non-canon in my book.
imuglierthanyou
Actually it was... very badly.
ruclips.net/video/W5gGEWqO_Ag/видео.html
But don’t take my word for it. Go to this link and go to the 15:22 part of the video and you’ll see what I mean on how they created a jarring retcon for the entire mythology of bending and it’s origins. And that’s just one retcon.
@@thehedgehogsdilemma9478 bruh the writers of avatar wrote the show so ots canon deal with it
@@allfather608 even if it’s canon, most people don’t like korra so they consider it as non canon. Deal with it
Ok your choice . I like the series nonetheless. Even though it has flaws . The action is impeccable. And I like watching that .
@@allfather608 It's not canon because it was missing writers from ATLA and wasn't made exactly how ATLA was made nor folowed ATLA rules. Deal with it.
When Legend of Korra first came out, I refused to watch it. I didn't want to accept the fact that the old gang was either old and dead and how much things have changed. Last week I decided to watch it, finishing the series in 3 days. When it ended, it left a larger hole than the original Avatar did.
I never watched TLOK becsuse of the same reason lol
And that’s why I’m never watching it.
@@sbk6052 I forced my sister to watch it, and she regretted hating it. This video seemed to clown more on katara then the actual legend of Korra, because the only thing that’s actually clown worthy in the show is that love triangle. It’s not bad at all, but it’s just too much. They’re giving random ass background characters main protag moments while having a clusterfuck of a cast already.
I’m not sure why everyone hates TOK. I never watched it until this year and I’ll admit it wasnt near as good as atla but I still enjoyed it.
Haters gonna hate.
Ikr
Yeah, but in the end you're allowed to enjoy the show! Don't let anyone make u feel bad for what u enjoy
Things can ba badly done but still enjoyable and fun
Lmao people just hate on the show because of ATLA bias. They don't give actual reasoning and if you literally go check out MattCMG he shuts down pretty much any nitpicking that people spew out to justify their reasoning for hating the show with actual solid evidence, and goes to prove how A. People didnt watch the show and are just jumping on the hate train or B. People DID watch the show but can't get their dicks off of ATLA. Both shows are good, ATLA is obviously objectively better, but holy crap do people need to stop the hate bias on LOK.
Katara was actually my favorite character bc she was the mature one.
my favorite character to korra fans are saying it becaues hate the legend of korra
Katara isn't mature. I think Sokka is the mature one.
@@icanusesakurasforeheadasap4304 both are mature
@@icanusesakurasforeheadasap4304 but thats ur opinion so alright
I actually thought u were too easy on Korra. They pulled a Boruto and ruined some of the original characters as well.
How?
Toph nope did you read The promise and Tophs metalbending academy the graphic novels they both show how devoted toph was to make a change and eventually going on to make change in republic city eventually regretting it and living in the Swamp to be far away and connected to her daughters at the same time
Aang, nope he was trying to carry on the airbender legacy in Tenzen and in turn gave Kya and Bumi less attention, he wasn’t wrong he just knew Tenzen would be the last Airbender at some point in time.
@@isaku7321 Nah Nah Nah. The Fact that Aang had to come Back from the Dead to get put in this GARBAGE is Disrespectful. And it completely Devalues the Characters in ways. For example When they kept using Old Toph for Old Grandma Jokes
Chai Jaric if they made a prequel to ATLA would you say it’s garbage that they brought avatar Roku back. Avatars can talk to past lives that’s part of being an avatar. And how does making old people jokes disvalue a character when they are old, people in real life make jokes about being old when they are old.
@@w.s.659 Have you watched the Show. Korra broken the Avatar Chain. For the other Avatars they can Only talk to Korra.
The Fact that Toph was Such a Badass when she was Older is Great. She is still one or the Best Earthbenders Ever. However Toph was also supposed the Help Korra along the way. Like Tenzin she was thrown to the Trash and Korra always got her way. Toph should've have been A Badass the Whole time but she's now a " cool Grandma"
You obviously can't take Jokes can you. I talking about when Aang died and got revived by Katara. I'm saying it would been better if they killed him off, instead of creating the Garbage that is Known as Legend of Korra.
And yes if the made a Prequel to ATLA and Brung Back Roku I would most Likely Dislike it. Since we saw his life story.
Chai Jaric did you read your own comment you said “Aang had to come back from the dead to get put in this GARBAGE”
Korra is one of the worst avatar ever. I don't know why but whenever they try to make an empowering female. they always end up making the most pathetic character.
agreed but maybe you could choose some better wording there
Korra is subjectively terrible. The fanbase is objectively worse.
Weren't we part of the fanbase at one point until the fanbase became too "left-wing" at one point?
The overall Avatarverse fanbase is pretty toxic.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I remember when it got pretty toxic when they writers didn't Pander to the people who shipped Zuko with Katara. My cousin was one of those people and boy did she go on a tirade
@@vetarlittorf1807 what about those of us who love avatar and hate korra
@@mariobadia4553 Lol. The fans reacted really immaturely to not getting Zutara.
I was a huge fan of Avatar, and I eagerly started watching Korra. I was initially quite entertained, but it got so BORING I had to quit.
Also she’s a lesbian
What’s wrong with that?
@@captainabefox *Bisexual
Abinadab Orozco Keyoshi was gay ur point being?
I blame Nickelodeon they really fumbled the bag on season 2 but the ending season 3 and 4 are pretty strong. Background watch season 2 than carry on with the rest it really picks up season 3
‘Avatar: The Last Airbender Imagines a World Free of Blackness
Avatar:the last air bender imagine a world with only Asians.
Now, imagine the outrage....
Based
JC Crouse based though
Katara and Sokka are literally black
Nobody hated Katara...EVER and I don't hate Korra even tho she's kind of a bad character.
I can imagine people being annoyed with Katara cause of how bossy she was at times, but in retrospect it made sense cause in an enviorment where they're being hunted 24/7 SOMEBODY had to step up and be the adult in the group
And Katara made mistakes that in the end contributed to her character developement, whereas when Korra makes mistakes its usually just to move the plot along
And just to drive it home, aside from Korra and Tenzin I can't remember the name of a single new character from Korra, whereas I remember every important character in The Last Airbender
That should give you an idea of how bland the characters are in Korra
Korra was a forced shallow character. She had everything handed to her including having a family, and yet very little in terms of personal ambition to develop on. She seemed to get more hostile with each season, and remained generally unlikeable in personality and activity abusing her power until the last season which by then made it too late to start liking her. I was satisfied seeing her get traumatized, and by the end was just glad it was finally over.
And again, I was not surprised she turned into a lesbian. I called it from the start.
Aang lost everything flung into a world he no longer recognized being the last of his culture. He endured a lot of hardship to gain all the power and wisdom he would need to restore balance to the world again. He earned his support. Would’ve been nice if his story went on just a little longer. That’s a real achievement unlike Korra with a limited and unremarkable cast
You didn't watch lok did you she didn't get things handed to her the only thing I can agree with you on is aang giving her bending back other then that she worked her ass off to get rava back and her bending fuck aang was givin the avatar state in a day and energy bending
@@allfather608 And yet you didn’t prove how she didn’t get things handed to her. She had a family and worked from home. She had the least angst getting to the first three elements, and was little inspiration overall. She only became humbled in the last two seasons when she got her ass kicked realizing being the avatar isn’t enough as she arrogantly expected it to be. And she is also quick to judge others.
She was mostly cleaning up her own mess. And don’t take it out on Aang about the avatar state. He barely used it except when it really counted. She flaunted it just to win an air race able to use it at a whim like a toy. Nothing to respect about that train wreck. And not surprised she became a lesbian. She didn’t hide it well.
I didn’t miss any point. Stop pretending you thought this through defending garbage and noise.
@@vernonsmith3609 you're point was that korra was handed stuff mine is that she didn't get everything as I've said she had she had to work to get rava back her bending and deal with ptsd plus so what if she could bend 3 elements all avatars are prodigy benders just look at aang he's the youngest airbending master got water bending in an afternoon earth bending in a day which should be harder for him and same thing with firedending and she did change in season 2 in season the beginning it sets up her not respecting her powers yes but after she learns to respect it hut what it means to be that avatar
@@allfather608 Getting Rava back is nothing. She lost her and needed help to venture the spirit realm with Jinora and Iroh helping her. Truly, Jinora should’ve been the avatar. She was everything you think Korra is and was too late to be by the time we reached the end of the series to care.
@@vernonsmith3609 Jinora has more emotional intelligence than korra, korra is tiring because she thinks about solving everything in the shit is the solution, she is unable to listen to the leaders, that sentence she said to the president "maybe your administration can solve this", what do you mean ? you created a problem, solve it yourself. the treatment towards her father is disrespectful she has never been him, and she prefers to hear her brother than her father, who in fact she doesn't even know well, and the worst thing is her mistreating lin beifong and being totally disrespectful invading her space and meddling in other people's family problems, she didn't follow lin to republic city where she would probably be safer aaaah she's tiresome, i don't think the villains' ideology is that deep, but i have to confess to every villain that beat her up me vibrated
avatar roku literally says "the four nations are meant to be just that, four." when sozin talks about "sharing" the fire nations peace and prosperity with the rest of the world.
And Roku was wrong in that department tbh... People were eventually going to be mixed and not just apart of one nation. Segregation is not a good thing.
@@qiralyncassette neither is domination. its one thing to integrate peoples into another culture its another entirely to dominate a culture and wipe it out with your own culture. the four nations each offered something different culturally to the world of avatar and when one got wiped out like the air nomads which offered alot spiritually to the world of avatar it threw the world out of balance. thankfully aang survived and managed to keep air nomad culture alive through Tenzin because if he just let his culture die by becoming integrated with republic city instead of letting it survive by separating it on air nomad island then koras journey would have been much harder if not impossible to overcome due to her journey being centered around a conflict with the spiritual world rather than the mortal world like most avatars.
dont get me wrong this is not meant to be a commentary on the real world as in the real world their are some very archaic cultures that should be wiped out or changed. and even in the avatar world their are some cultural aspects of the four nations that should be changed and do get changed like the fire nations feelings of superiority or the earth kingdoms classism. but for the most part each nation offers something to the world of avatar that is good and needed and alot of that is lost in republic city.
for example republic city is alot more like the fire nation and air nomads cultures than the water tribe or earth kingdoms cultures indicating that fire nation culture and air nomad culture in republic city has become dominant despite being an earth kingdom city primarily inhabited by people from the earth kingdom which ironically is what the fire nation wanted to accomplish during the hundred year war in the first place albeit without the air nomad influence. and this makes sense considering zuko and aang were the ones credited with being the founders of republic city. some cultural aspects of the other nations do remain in republic city but for the most part republic city culture is a mixture of the industrial and innovative fire nation cultures and the free and open air nomad peoples. theirs almost no waters tribe culture left in republic city and as far as the earth kingdom goes all that remains are things of an aesthetic nature like fashion or architecture. oh and even though republic city is primarily a mixture of air and fire nation cultures it is mostly fire nation. with the exception of the air nomads culture of freedom almost nothing remains in terms of their cultural attitudes relating to nature or the spirit world outside of air temple island which is why its a good thing they separated the air nomads from the rest of republic city so that their culture would not disappear into republic citys culture.
You missed the comic in Which Aang argues with Roku about it XD
I just can't believe she got all the past Avatar lives brutality permintly killed.
It weren't her fault
They weren't killed because she can still speak with Aang right? The connection was just broken so no avatar state
I don't understand why people blame Korra for everything they don't like, was her fault that villains are villains? Wut.
They were already dead.
@@idk-ye7urif she wasn’t so ass it wouldn’t have been broken
I recently binge watched all of the series on BluRay (I don't have Netflix, and didn't even realize it was on Netflix), and have been watching the behind the scenes bonus content and listening to the commentaries now that I finished watching it again (watched the whole series in a span of about 72 hours). I mentioned that I was watching it to my 10-year-old nephew, and his eyes lit up, saying how he loves Avatar. He then asked me if I've seen "the girl one." I asked if he meant The Legend of Korra, and he said that's the one, and I told him I hadn't. He sighs a relief and says, "Oh good! Don't watch it; it's terrible!" I laughed pretty hard!
Also, the commentaries and whatnot so far basically say the whole show is based on 4 styles of Kung Fu, and they chose Kung Fu, because they practice it for real, always loved old Kung Fu movies, and so they wanted to make a show that was grounded in reality (they really drive the "grounded in reality/realism" home), but with a magical fantasy element, of course. The creators aren't even Asian/Oriental as far as I can tell, but that doesn't matter, because they love the culture around Chinese martial arts. Race doesn't even come up as a talking point for them, as it doesn't matter. They weren't even trying to push feminism or anything, either, they just wanted interesting characters relatable to the audience, and with depth/conflict. Boys and girls bicker over which gender is better all the time, and that juvenile tribalism is very relatable to children, so it's in the show. Even characters like the water bending master who seems bigoted and sexist actually isn't, he's just bitter that the love of his life rejected his marriage proposal, and he's man enough to recognize he was wrongly taking it out on the women of the tribe. He then agrees to teach her and Aang water bending. If anything, that teaches kids that someone who's mean may not even have a problem with you, but rather have a deeper pain from their past, and if given the chance for closure and/or reconciliation, may actually be a really good person.
I had a bully like that in school when I was a kid. He used to beat me up every day after school, then my dad taught me to fight. I broke the bully's nose next time he attacked me, and he left me alone after that (sorry, Aang; violence CAN solve problems). Later, in high school, I got paired up with him for an assignment. It was tense at first, but then he apologized to me about how he used to treat me. He explained his dad used to beat him, and he was jealous of me having a dad who cherishes me. I told him the broken nose I gave him made us square a long time ago, and that I forgive him. We didn't become friends, but we had a healthy mutual respect after that. I'd love to claim Avatar played a part in that, but I didn't see it until AFTER seeing the live action movie well into adulthood. When I told my friend I thought the movie was great, he sat my ass down when we got home and insisted I watch the series, as I needed to understand why every copy of that movie aught to be burned, lol! Gotta say, after seeing the series, yeah, that movie was hot garbage.
They pulled The Last Jedi and screwed with he original characters.
The fact Tenzin was such a great character in LOK makes the fact the show sucks all the more disappointing.
I mean, I thought it was pretty good. Would you like to have a conversation on the matter?
@@andrewwang8021 this guys don't have a major reason to why they say it's bad..
Lmao..
@@Codemanlex I'm sure they do. They just haven't said it yet.
@@andrewwang8021 honestly.
All the videos I have seen about korra.. they never make any valid argument to why it's bad..
They just jump on the bandwagon of hate
@@Codemanlex I feel that most of the points they present are valid from a certain point of view. This video, for instance, emphasizes the stance that the Legend of Korra characters are largely cheap copies of the Last Airbender's characters. It's a stance that I disagree with, but I can see how someone may feel that way about certain characters. They may find my reasons for thinking otherwise to be inaccurate, but what matters is that we hear both sides of the equation.
Korra is basically Avatar world gone slightly woke before it went nuts with the wokeness in the comic lol. However, i do think there are good things in LOK as there are bad things, like with every other series really.
How is that avatar world "woke" as you put it....
@@allfather608 actually, the old world was ok. The Legend of Korra's world building started to have real world stuff bleeding into it. In the comics, there were even representations of ethnicities in the real world, the authors even confirmed they put those representations there. Whereas, the original series' people, culture and clothes were only inspired. The author didn't much care for that and instead threw all the representation she could find into the comic. The animated series of Korra was still alright but the comic series was kinda...questionably weird.
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 I disagree the only American thing I can see in there is aang's statue lok is just the avatar world but evolved and you do know most eastern cultures are americanised right also yeah the comics are trash....
@@allfather608 ngl "the comics are trash" made me chuckle. I did not exact such blunt wording.
@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 I don't really like the comics because it ruins korras character in the show but it's always been that way especially for avatar but yeah I disagree with you on the wolrd building of legend of korra if the fire nation could make tanks and a massive drill idk why its hard to believe they can evolve they can evolve
Who else feels like Korra wasn't aimed for children instead for teens that's probably why I didn't get many views
@@TheSaintsfan16exactly but the thing is most of the original fans weren't or didn't even watch Korra since most of the original fan base where kids and Korra release about six years after Avatar ange and I doubt that teenagers will be watching Nick
when you say "Kids" are you implying...like little kids would watch something avatar? like that series is meant for like around preteens would be a good estimate
@@TheSaintsfan16 I will respect the fact that you are a original Avatar fan but how can you defend Korra. every season she faced a new villan you don't even see them after there season and everyone is to over powerd it down plays everyone in Avatar ange seriously they somebody that can take way people's bending in the first episode only ange should be able to do that not just some random water kingdom reject
@@Jdudec367 have you even watch Korra and ange in Korra like three people were killed infront of us and one was a suicide yet in ange were not even sure if jet died or not
@@laughingeightball7676 well...ok yeah true same could be said about other cartoon like clone wars for example...not sure how many people think this but...in some children's cartoons death does happen and if the show has a set target audience that can handle that (ai around say 12) then it should be fine
Korras arc started in season 3, when she lost all interest in being the avatar.
Season 1 and 2 of Anng was him running away from being the avatar..
But when he almost died, he took the job seriously..
But korra season 1 and 2 was her running head first trying to be the avatar..
She was a hot head, but when she was poisoned in season 3, she was knocked down so hard that she didn't see herself as a useful thing anymore..
It was only till she fought her fears.. that's when she was able to become the avatar that she was meant to be.
Remember all this events happened to her in just a year..
4 villians that wanted to change the world irrespective of it being bad or good.
For me "The Last Airbender" is the better choice because if I remember correctly this happens 100 yrs before Korra was even thought of before new civilizations and mixture of benders were at peace. This however, for me thinks that Korra didn't have much as a story or developed well as a character as for Aang his development was good since back then he and his friend were at war to defeat the Fire Lord.
In my opinion I prefer the original.
The keyword is Aaron Ehasz the second he was out of the franchise the quality went to shit, and this includes the ATLA comics that came out in between the original show and Korra.
Iron Man and Captain America never stood a chance against turtle; they never should have even tried.
It's the villains. The villains are what makes this show great. Zaheer and Kuvira especially.
It's impossible to do a fair review of this show without mentioning just how amazing the villains are.
Azula > all LoK villains
@@lordshadow19 I would be hard-pressed to disagree, she's my favorite, too.
But Zaheer is a *very* close second.
@@lordshadow19 That's a backwards argument. Just bringing up Azula doesn't mean anything, doesn't disprove that Korra had great villains, and Azula better than all Korra villains is easily debatable
@@thawindyking2740 It isn't an argument at all, I'm stating my opinion that I think Azula is better than any of the villains we got in LoK. I didn't even attempt to make an argument, I just made a statement and made no attempt to elaborate on said statement.
@@lordshadow19 I agree that Korra villains are good (except Tarlok and Amon before discovered he is a bloodbender) but idn, i have a fall for crazy, psicopathy and scarely non-human inside villains sometimes. And Azula continues to be well 3 dimensional beside any glorifyn traits, a teenager who was corrupted by the madness and aspirations of his own ancestors
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Sorry for the bad english, its not my first language
hated korra in season 2 lol
The worst you could say about Katara was that she was controlling and worried too much. But these things are forgivable and understandable based off of her positive character traits and her backstory. Katara is a well written and complex character so there are aspects that are good and bad about her. With Korra they just took the bad traits and left out everything else. Bad recipe.
That's a hard no for me fam, Katara was among the most annoying and insufferable characters in across both Avatar and Korra I've ever seen. Her personality, character traits, and pretty much everything outside of some good character arcs were terrible imo. I didn't even want to see her on the screen 98% of the time
@@thawindyking2740 tell me you didn't watch Avatar TLA without telling me you didn't watch Avatar TLA
"World without Whiteness"
_looks over at the Soggy Swamp_ Right...
Florida I’m looking at you
I'm trying to think of a main character form ATLA that could be considered "The most Hated character".
I waited like 20 minutes trying to think of an answer to type.
I got nothing
I'll give you TWO! Doc and his brother Shu. Hate those guys lol
The people from the chin village, or Ozai
I only "hate" or strongly dislike/feel indifference for poorly written characters.... In ATLA there aren't any.
"[Mako's] biggest problem is that two girls like him, and he doesn't know which one to pick, and then they end up dating each other"
"That's rough buddy"
Ouch.
What cements my hatred for Korra, as a character, was when she came out to her parents. Both her parents were happy for her but then her father had warned her about the realities of the world. That not everyone was going to accept her so maybe she shouldn't shout it out to the whole damn tribe. Instead of thanking him for the warning but saying she would be fine, she immediately thought he was narrow minded.
It's like she was Ironheart and was jumping at the chance to be offended so she prove them wrong.
Yeah that's also why I dislike her as a character. How she treats her father is unacceptable.
When did she come put to her parents?
@@jerry7389 In the comics so after all her character development.
And zuko treated Iroh like a 💩 for 2/3 of the serie,still people forgive him easily
@@rhythmicmusicswap4173 False equivalence as during that time he treated Iroh like that, he was a villain at the time. Also, he didn't do that after 4 seasons worth of character development like Korra did.
"Korra SUCKS And You Should HATE It"
I does. I know. I do.
But go ahead and remind me, pretty please x3
Korra SUCKS remind me, pretty please x3
@@korrapithani9930 woah your name’s Korra
14:56 Being angry for no apparent reason... Yeah, nothing special about him, just lost his parents and stuff, just barely holding on their lives being street rats for a decade. even when they found a job, they had almost no money and were living in the attic of the stadium. He has more then enough reasons to be the happiest guy in the world, Of course!
No one:
Literally no one:
SJWs: Everyone hates katara because r-cism and s-xism.
Everyone: The f-ck?
Leftists: sEe! SeXiSm AnD rAcIsm FrOm A mAn!!!
A correction. The Fire Nation is inspired from China as well as Earth Kingdom. Earth is Qing Dynasty where Fire Nation is closer to Han Dynasty as well as architecture and outfits based on Thai and Polynesian Islands. The only Japanese reference is Kyoshi Island.
i thought it was more Siam
The Fire Nation is an island nation with a strong navy that has imperialistic values and a strong honor code. You're tripping if you don't think they are inspired by Japan.
Of course there is no 1 to 1 comparison in ATLA because many different cultures were blended together to create the four elementals nations but there is always one that sticks out more than the others. For example:
Air Nomads - Tibetans
Water Tribes - Inuit
Earth Kingdom - China
Fire Nation - Japan
@@satinsleeves See the problem here is your linking the other nations by their inspired culture and aesthetics but ignoring that for the Fire Nation. Japanese aesthetic and cultures are found on Kyoshi Island. Not the Fire Nation. If you're basing the Fire Nation on Japan because they're are imperialistic that doesn't hold much water since China has a huge history of Imperialistic behavior especially in the HAN DYNASTY where much of the Fire Nations architecture is derived. So no. Not Japan.
@@brandonjones2041 HA not imperialistic you should look at ww2 when imperial japan was conquering south Asia
@@thegreatkrimpus6139 Never said they weren't imperialistic. I simply said imperialism is not exclusive to Japans history so it's not a convincing reason to associate the Fire Nation with Japan and not China.
I can't quite say I agree with everything you've said, but you did bring up a lot of good points. Was LOK better then ATLA, god no. Was it as horrible as people make it out to be, no. If were looking at it as a sequal to ATLA then I would understand some of the frustrations, but it seems that people forget that LOK was it's own show, trying (and at times failing) to build upon the prestablished world.
oh yeah, as its own show LOK is fine. Some good moments, some bad, but overall fine.
But as a sequel to one of the most beloved animated shows of all time, just fine doesnt cut it. It was always going to be compared to ATLA. And some of the worldbuilding shit it did within the pre established world was just awful. My personal favorite is the fact that lightning bending, a secret art requiring a mastery of not only firebending but also complete inner peace, is now a poorly paid labourers position.
Well, as a series the first half was bullshit (even according the its fans), and the other half was good. So, a series which 50% is terrible really isn't good...
@@tardigrade8019 Propagation of previously withheld information. Happens all the time.
I found this premisse really interesting
"What would an avatar do in a World that doesn't need him/her, and How this world Works"
But making a show with this premisse requires a more mature view of things, instead of "this person bad, that person good", not only from whom is watching, but from whom is producing as well.
Here's my quick thoughts on Legend of Korra.
Season 1 was OK, if rushed due to a budget limit. Season 2 was bad, full stop. Season 3 was pretty good. Season 4 was better than 1 but not as good as 3.
None of them were as good as any of the seasons from the original Avatar TLA as a whole, but I enjoyed all the villains from Korra, minus Unalaq, more than Firelord Ozai.
I like Korra, Bolin and Asami, but I wish they were written better in certain scenes. Tenzin deserved better. Jinora is the only one of Tenzin's kids that I liked. I wish we saw more of Firelord Izumi.
dont forget how korra is gay
@@ratfarm32 why does that matter?
Yeah I like your reasoning better than the rest of these comment section thats just like hating it because the internet told them so. I completely agree about your reviews and the show suffers alot due to their netwok, lok was meant to be a stand alone series with only one season but nickelodeon keep renewing after a season was eneded. Plus the pressure on the writers because Nickelodeon keeps cutting their budget, salary, forcing to fire animators/writers. If it got the same treatment as atla, we could propably have more compelling story than that :(
@@ratfarm32 I don't really care about that. Its handled fairly well (as in, not the centre of attention) after the lackluster introduction. It could've been handled better, but it also could've been handled worse.
6:07 i disagree it doesn't suck :)
for me it was good
i didn't see any political messaging in avatar and neither in Korra well i didn't look for it neither i just enjoyed the show, is last air-bender better then Korra yes it is
It did. You should watch the videos E;R made on Korra.
@@reilysmith5187 watched half or bit over half sins i was prepering to go to sleep and soon am pc is turned off
It's debatable if ATLA has political messages, you could certainly make and argument for it if you look deep enough, but I don't know how anyone could watch Amon's grandstanding and speech making and come away with the impression that this wasn't about politics.
In TLA is the very basic "imperialism is bad" message you've had in every fantasy story where the big bad is some form of Empire. And while you can draw deeper meanings from it, it's not necessary.
Korra on the other hand is loaded with political messages. The Equalists are communists as described by an edgy 14 year old, and Zaheer is an anarchist by the same standards. Kuvira started off fairly compelling, but then quickly fell into classic fascist/nazi territory with her labour camps based off ethnicity.
All the while the United Republics is held up as a shining beacon of liberty, and Earth Kingdom eventually follows their lead to implement democracy.
The only Korra villain who doesn't reek of surface level political philosophy is Unalaq, but that's because the whole Raava vs Vaatu thing feels more like a God/Satan plotline, with their own "Dark Avatar"/Antichrist figure. Because what a cartoon rooted in Asian culture and martial arts needed was a big splash of 1920s USA and New York, and the whole "4 elements and spiritualism" thing to be grounded in a bunch of Christian imagery. Seriously? Why aren't the SJWs more pissed off about that!?
And what really pisses me off is that if Korra WANTED to got the route of explaining ideologies, it would have been so easy. TLA was set just as the fire nation was experiencing the birth of the Industrial Revolution. 60 years on, this is the PERFECT breeding ground for a communist inspired ideology to evolve, especially when you start to think about the implications of bending. Benders are going to be much better paid than non benders, simply because the ability to manipulate the elements with your mind makes them far more productive in certain jobs, and there will be a clear divide between jobs that can be done much more efficiently by benders, and those that can't. This is exactly the kind of ECONOMIC inequality that lead to the foundation of ideologies such as communism in our world.
@@minerat27 i draw no parallels between real world and the show for me they were 2different things, i did not think about real life while watching the show just like in for example mcu movie i don't care if the hero is gay or trans as long as he or she was that originally and if its organic not like batwoman for example story and other stuff related to it are more important
korra sucks deal with it
the turf wars comics are some of the worst things i have ever read. Irene Koh and MIchael Dimartino just used avatar to promote their agenda
Nah, you lost me when you said the show was 'anti-diversity' because Aang stopped the Fire Nation from "spreading their culture". What the Fire Nation was doing was the opposite of diversity, bruh. They exterminated the Air Nomads, wiped out all the water benders in Katara's tribe save for her, and attempted to wipe out the Earth Kingdom. How is that spreading diversity? Aang then goes on to create a fifth nation in Republic City where benders and non-benders can live together. That sounds like diversity. Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just pandering to a certain base?
And the amount of approving comments is scary. People don't fucking think for themselves nowadays. A dude with a smooth voice and a halfway decent argument can persuade so many idiots.
I was thinking the same thing. He is just indirectly saying left bad, right good.
If you watch some episodes again, you will see that the fire nation has a discret autosense of superiority throw the other nations, of course, disguised to not be much complex and mature to the children. Like in the episode of Haru, when the fire guard mock the earthbending, calling him as "this barbary that looks bending"(not exacly in these words, but similar), or when Iroh has to explain to Zuko that is possible to learn and took wise from other nations, like something that Zuko never learn or never thougt about in his entire life. Avatar the last airbender was work with a series of restriccions because of the age of the general Nickelodeon's audience, and beside these restriccions, some interesting topics were aborded throw the series, i would like to see wath Avatar should able to be with no restriccions.
(Sorry for the bad English, im not a native speaker)
I think the reason why most people didn’t like Korra was because she wasn’t Aang
, Book 1, we were just getting introduced to the characters, the villain was dope but overall it wasn’t the best season and you know when Korra looses her bending she lost all hope in life, I mean what’s the Avatar without being able to bend, and some people say that Korra was going to end her life right then and there.
Season 2 was bad TBH worst season of them all, the saddest part was all the Avatars being distroyed but I think it was good for Korra so she had to make all of her choices by herself and it makes what the Red Lotus idea flow more ( change ).
Book 3, Damn some of the best villains ever except for Azula ( Duh ) the storyline was great, with Tenzin trying to get the Air Nomads back while Korra and the rest of team Avatar went to a whole new city made of metal where we learnt how crazy the Beifong family is.
Book 4, mainly about Korra’s mental strength and having a villain who wants to create justice but in the wrong way.
Her friends had flaws but who doesn’t, Bolin is anyone from our world that goes into the Avatar World his personality is calm, peaceful, and compassionate, Mako wasn’t the best character he was a messed up dude but he was raised by criminals so could you blame him really? Asami was a woman who worked hard and protects those who she cares about she might have been spoiled as a child but look3d down on by her father most of her life.
I think if you want to watch Korra, skip Book 2, don’t think much about Book 1 but continue with Book 3 and 4 because they are by far the best books ever!
GasMask
Yeah, as a child I had actually never watched ATLA so Korra seemed better but when I did watch ATLA I was hating the first 2 seasons of TLOK
GasMask
Oh, I’m so sorry, you don’t need to apologise
OMG that civil war clip at the beginning... THAT is why I love this channel. That is why I'm here.
Thank you, *salute*
Comic books for the world.
Wait Katara’s mom died?! I had no idea! She was so secretive about it!!
I can’t tell if your trolling me…
Remember when they shoehorned Korra into a lesbian relationship at the very end of the show and had her save the world with the power of lesbian kissing?
Not only is Mako a ripoff of Batman but he also rips off Natsu from Fairy Tail, because that character also fights using fire and wears a scarf because its all he has left to remember his dad by
being an orphan and fighting crime makes you batman ripoff bruh..
I know this man did not just say that the message of ATLA is that diversity is bad. The main cast, team avatar, has at least one member from every nation, making it very diverse. These are the “good guys.” The message is very obviously anti-imperialism.
Look up E;R's series on the show to know why.
Who?
@@Tengokuchi E;R is a reviewer that makes edgy jokes. He's actually pretty great.
@@Tengokuchi E;R he's a very funny reviewer RUclipsr
@@Tengokuchi people should remember E;R as the guy who was so edgy he almost got pewdiepie canceled because of a minor shoutout pewds made.
Bro is ER is a Nazi, that's a damn shame cuz he makes good vids
Ask anybody who has watched both avatar series and ask them to name off the main characters of each show, I can guarantee most people will remember the characters of avatar the last air bender but the legend of korra they will forgot or struggle to remember
I think it had interesting ideas, and a few pockets of good execution in isolation (eg. a lot of Tenzen's stuff, also liked the idea for the red lotus or Kuveria but I think they should have just picked one to deal with), but the overall execution dropped the ball hard. I think it's interesting that the people defending it usually defend the good concepts but admit the execution is lacking in a lot of ways, which means they are judging it by how good they could have been as opposed to how good it actually is.
Yeah, that's what usally happens when you defend something that deserves some criticism against people who say it's absolute trash and there's nothing good ever in it.
I love the show, but want to say that it totally depends on how you look on it. If you want to be overly critical, I can see why you hate it. But, in my opinion, you just watch the show to have fun. It's really underrated.
Zuko and Jin had a deeper and more interesting relationship in a 3 MINUTE ark than TLOK had between any characters in 4 damn season
I have GENUINELY read at least 20 "Tumblr fanfictions" that had a better grasp on the characters and what makes them so compelling. I myself often refer to bad writing as "fanfiction versions" of actual good things, but when I actually look at it 90% of fan fiction, written by untrained 13-year-olds with no real-life experience, is far more complex and adept at characterization than the writers of (most) kids shows nowadays.
You better not say Ed Edd and Eddy is trash next.
Thats gonna be the line for me.
Caqueux ed edd and eddy is god tier.
Korra is F tier trash
Ed edd and eddy is SSS+ teir
Best show ever.
How dare you compare ed, edd and eddy with this trash show
Ed Edd and Eddy is trash, even as someone who grew up with it on TV, I never understood the appeal
Really, who hated Katara? I don't remember this at all.
no one did it was made to push a racist narrative, hence u lie.
i think some people did not like her in season one but like ashoka from star wars the clone wars that quickly changed and she became a fan favorite as she grew as a character.
Nah she's annoying and gets angry all the time and think she knows what's best. That's why people dont like katara
@@youcanthandlemyname7393 Disagree. Katara was a great charater through and through the entire show run time.
The only episode she was most the mc like was with pollution episode in season 3 episode 3. The real problem with that espiode is that really hand fist sucker punch environment message. Even a blind person can't miss it.
One thing I didn't like was the aritificia progression of technology where they jumped from pre-industrial to early 20th century tech within the span of decades. They skipped what took centuries of development in our world
No they did not. If anything, the technology evolved slightly slower than in our world. And you fail to take into account that there was a global war AND the industrial revolution had already started in the Fire Nation in ATLA.
The Fire Nation was at least at Civil War-era technology, if not slightly more advanced. That's 1850's-1860's lever tech. Add 70 years, and we get the 1920s.
Really, the more unbelievable jump in technology is going from 1920's-era tech to mid-1940's tech in the span of 4 years.
@@vetarlittorf1807 - If anything, A time a war would've been where the innovation came from. An entire century of war, You MAYBE could have gone from the avatar world to the Korra world, but 60 years of Peace time? Nah, Man.
@rubberkidney I am not sure if bending would speed up technological progress. Because by giving them advantages over nature they would end up not needing the innovation as much as our world. Even more when people from different nations begin to commute and their different bendings would pretty much incentivize certain works for certain people. Look at Mako working as a charger with his lightning bending. Metal benders make a lot of weaponry useless. Water benders can freeze and fire benders can heat. Many instruments end up being irrelevant if the problem can be solved by bending, which ironically, when lacking the development of those instruments, they may never achieve such innovations.
I think that the progress in TLOK may seem unnatural but I don't mind it. Though how much the writers seem to have trivialized bending mastery curve ends up distorting any sense of consistency that may have been aggravated by the technological jump, even if the last was actually accurate.
@rubberkidney All I say is I am not sure. I agree it should be easier, but my point is there are less incentives. It is not a matter of curiosity, it is about attending problems that their society never had to rely on technology before.
Look at Omashu, they relied on their earth bending for most the transportation, that would led to less investments in technology which would slow the progress overall.
Also, the lightning bending need to be second to the invention of such machinery, before that there is no incentive (and no accessible way stated) to master such bending so I don't know if them being able to do that can be attributed as the cause for this particular technology.
For last, I don't think the show is demonstrates what you state: the most notorious advance it had on ATLA was caused directly by the war, which created the need for such weaponry as the Fire Nation recognized that bending alone wouldn't be enough to siege Ba Sing Se, and the Mechanist, the central figure of engineering of the story, not only developed technology that tried to equalize his people with what the Air benders could already do if they were not destroyed, but he also did it by the needs of his son.
But again, this is just a thought. As I said before, the differences between the two series makes it difficult to analyze how their society would accomplish such feats as the bending mastery curve became inconsistent.
I felt like that zutara thing was because they had more chemistry. Aang did almost nothing for katara while she's always there for him
What do you mean?? Aang literally about to sold his soul to satan for Katara, and ur implying he did nothing to him?
If that were the case, then why would even the writers let the story end with the two together
istg kids and feminist should stop acting like everything is offensive. Fans of korra are under every ATLA video to promote their queen avatar and when we argue with them *we* are annoying and sexist?!!
Isn't it the same with atla fact is both side can become toxic
@@maadtee6281 tbh so far I've mostly seen LOK being annoying when people praise ATLA. But yeah there are many toxic people who support ATLA too
@@saminouminou lol nah its the atla fans doing that most lok fans become defensive when atla fans attack lok especially when they do it by spreading misinformation like calling korra mary sue or bolin sokka which is infact false
Got Avatar and Korra both on DVD.
I had never seen them, so I watched the whole thing and the Korra arc fell apart.
Korra should've stayed with her power locked and then she had to earn them back. I like the idea Korra having mastered 3 of 4 elements as a child and it made her arrogant. That's good characterization. Taking it away from her would've been a great story to tell.
What we got....not good. I don't hate Korra like the others but it was woefully inadequate as a series.
I thought the same thing! I remember thinking after she lost her bending "Wow, she is going to have to learn how to be a great bender with this element she is not especially talented at, then get the rest of her bending back. What a great idea to humble this character!" , only to have ghost Aang give it right back to her 2 minutes later.
The main reason that didn't happen is that the Korra show-runners didn't know they were getting more than one season until after the whole first season aired. They couldn't have left an unfinished story arc, if they weren't getting any more seasons. This happened again with season 2. They didn't know they were getting more seasons. That's why the stakes get raised too much and the stories are so rushed.
Andy Polasek well, if they only thought they were getting one season, they should’ve ripped Korra’s bending early on, so she has to earn them back through the season while also fighting Amon? (Idk how to spell lol). Or they could’ve just demanded 2 seasons or they wouldn’t make the show.
@@animeisdead Soooo, you wanted Korra to lose her bending early on so that she could slowly gain it back in a season with 12 episodes while introducing her, new characters, villains, and a whole new world do to all of the technological development? Cool cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
Honestly getting frustrated with writers making a character gay or bi as if that makes their character any more compelling.
Woke points
There's nothing wrong for a Character being gay ,bi or lesbian etc... Its gets frustrating when that's the ONLY thing the character is! like their whole personality revolves around being gay, bi, or lesbian and nothing more , they have no depth no goals, no flaws and are just flat out badly written characters . Which is why people need to write good characters that's just so happen to be gay, straight, bi, lesbian or anything .
@@hanniaru8io682
Yeah, that's basically what I said. Characters can be gay or bi as long as it's not forced down your throat or are made so blatantly in an attempt to be more inclusive. A good example is PB and Marceline in Adventure Time. It was a simple kiss, they had history together, people had good reason to ship them. But it goes deeper than that.
@@non1263 and Jules from euphoria! When korra and that other chick (I forgot her name ) came out as bi at the end i was like"TF why now?!" And super confused lol
I don't know why that's an issue regarding Korra since they literally didn't reveal it until the last episode.
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, you mean to tell me that the races in Avatar aren't Water Tribe, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomad?!?!
Korra is like the Star Wars sequels: a tragic waste of potential. 😒
While I agree Mako and Bolin aren’t great characters, the show is still great. Korra, Tenzin and Lin to name a few are fantastic characters, some of the villains (Amon and Zaheer) are amazing and there are many truly stand out moments from the show.
finally a nice comment about this show
zhou huuuuuuuuuuuuu no korra fan we hate korra deal with
@@korrapithani9930 this comment made no sense, fix your grammar
@@korrapithani9930 korra is a good show you gotta deal with it! (Korra reference)
LOL
Legend of Korra only serves to make the original Avatar the Last Airbender look even better