The neck pads save you from suffering the worst kind of concussion where your head gets whiplashed into the ground. The pain is intense and temporarily blinds you.
@@poindextertunesthey usually are worse, because of the added lever. You’re getting the full velocity of your gravity pulling your head to the ground, compounded with that of your body. Like a whip
Mistakes were made lol. I got caught up showing the evolution of the different pieces of equipment and just spaced it on showing Alstott. I'll find a way to show some respect to the A-Train in the future!
4 year NCAA football player here. I couldn't have made it through playing football without my cowboy collar. I don't give a shit about the statistics. I had repeated stingers when hitting, but once I put on the cowboy collar, I never had one. I played offensive line. It helped me and kept my neck safe. The other big thing not mentioned is neck training
I love seeing all the Mike Alstott mentions. Glad he’s still getting respect despite the game changing so much. Seems like he is pretty widely appreciated but if you’re too young to have experienced him, look up some highlights. A-Train was the man. A surprisingly good receiver out of the backfield too.
Alstott will forever be one of my favorite players to see highlights of. Just pure power. He definitely didn't have break away speed. But he didn't need it. I wish fullbacks would make a return lol.
When I was around 8-10 years old, so around 95-97, our high school team was great and the RB wore #14, with a visor and neck roll with the jersey over the roll and sewn into the pads. He also wore soccer cleats before it was a thing and had those things spatted so much you could probably run his foot over with a truck and he wouldn’t feel it. I can still see him scurrying down the sideline with those enormous pads flapping like wings as guys dove at his feet. This kid has back to back 1700+ yard seasons and was the reason the team was back to back district champs. Still one of the coolest looks of all time.
I’ve worn all kinds of neck rolls throughout my high school and college playing days. By far the McDavid Cowboy Collar was the most effective. I’ve had countless instances when my head was jolted back into the cowboy collars during contact. The Cowboy Collar was a Linebackers best friend.
@@Da219StarWarsGuy nope the original one that just went under the shoulder pads and came out of the neck area. It was lightweight, water resistant, and durable. One quality Cowboy Collar would last for two or three seasons easily.
@@brianbrown7530 I recall playing with guys that used it. I used the shock absorber under my shoulder pads. Basically looked like a half inch thick foam web. I didn't use it in practice once and got a stinger. Never went without it again. Kind of doubled as a foam collar since it closed that gap between the helmet and shoulder pads.
I played in the late 80s and early 90s. I wore the same collar that Bozworth had for one game. I hated it. I felt like it kept me from keeping my head up. I never understood how guys could wear any of these collars.
I played in the Big10 from 96-2000. We started w the huge foam collars, then evolved to cowboy collars…. Then lineman started wearing wide receiver pads to enhance range of motion. I think that was the catalyst. Lotta guys felt constricted in collars. If you were a down guy, the thing often prevented you from seeing what was in front of you. When I got to the pros, the thing practically disappeared completely.
I used to rock a neck roll in highschool and to be honest it really helped my neck a lot and I say that despite what research says now because my problem was the way my neck would snap up for some reason when I was a lineman more than it should so that extra support helped keep that from happening. Sure it wasn't gonna prevent a concussion or anything but it helped with my playing posture which helped step up my game even though I knew I was never gonna get a scholarship or anything but it's always more fun when you do a little better.
When I was in high school we played this team called Martins Ferry, and their star fullback/lineman wore a cowboy collar, I think he was first team All-state in football and wrestling. He actually was the inspiration for me to wear one when I got to college. Great video as always KTO, keep it up dude!
@@ShawnMcClurg haha I’m from central Ohio and am familiar with eastern Ohio. We wrestled Martin’s ferry, claymont, Steubenville, st clairsville, Barnesville and so on in high school a bunch
Thank you for showing Bryan Cox some love. When I think neck pad, the immediate image in my head is Bryan Cox on the mid-nineties Bears, with that folding chair sticking out the back of his collar!
I played fullback and middle linebacker. I had a neckroll then a cowboy collar and the neck roll was better and more comfortable. I went back to the foam roll. I also lead with my head (not recommended)
I've still got my old collar from high school and I loved playing with it for the intimidation factor that had. That being said I learned some valuable lessons if you're going to use one. First off you got to make sure you form tackle because if you lead with your head the restriction will actually make it worse because it pretty much guarantees that the entire force is going to straight into your neck. Secondly depending on how well fitted your pads and collar combination are it severely limits how much your head can move. This might not sound too bad but there are several times where I pretty much had to turn my entire body to look if it was too far to the side. Like I said don't regret wearing it but you do have to change your game a bit if you're not used to it.
I threw my buddies on one game as a joke when he was hurt. I was playing tight end and yeah 3 plays in i went to turn around and was like "oh fuck this is all wrong" and had to take it out. Fucking thing could not be more in the way.
@@421less1 playing fullback made it a little easier since I was either running or hunting linebackers in a straigt line but on defence I don't know how any of the high level guys can stand to play with them.
This was a great video! Brought back ole nostalgia. Bryan Cox, Zach Thomas, Lorenzo Neal, Bill Romanoski. Takeo Spikes when asked why was his neck so big he said that a coach told him having a big neck would prevent concussions.
Having the neck roll under the jersey really gave it that iconic cartoony look. Never knew that was where it actually came from and that they actually looked like that.
Fun fact: The Steeler blasting Earl Campell was Donnie Shell. In college, we called him the Donnie Neck because of his massive neck muscles. When he wore turtleneck sweaters it looked like he was wearing a collar underneath. After signing with the steelers he bought a car with a vanity tag that read "D Neck".
Bro Schlesinger was my favorite player for so long him and Calvin are my favorite lions players of all time. Dude was a beast. He's the reason I wore 30 most of my life and the reason I started out as a fullback who went head first into the hole. I got to meet him a few times and he was so cool. Greatest moment of my life was meeting him
I"ll raise my hand on this one. I wore a cowboy collar all throughout high school in 2000-2004. With my jersey tucked over it. I was trying to mimic Mike Alstott (who played 25 miles up the road at JCA) who I think was just starting his reign in the NFL. I looked like a badass then and digging out an old yearbook right now... Yeah, still badass. (edit: Honestly, I think it did help with neck safety, but when it comes to my noggin... yeah not so much.)
it 100% helped my chronic neck! in 2013 (senior year) I rocked one all year and my stinging I would get in my neck during a tackle almost completely vanished lol
I played Jr high to college football from 99-2007 and wore a cowboy collar as a O/D lineman and LB mostly. I used to get "stingers" even though we were taught tackling safety very well. Especially around the time Corey Stringer died (yes dehydration is a whole different issue, but safety in all aspects were emphasized even more) once I wore a cowboy collar I never had another issue other than range of motion in a 3pt stance. I used to be reluctant to hit/block as hard because I didn't want to hurt my neck until I wore one of the collars. Plus I played LB mostly looking sweet with my #54 😂
Wow, Junior High in 1999, which means you were like 12 or 13, which means you were born in 1986 or 87, and now you're 35, how does it feel being old?...lol
I assumed fullbacks would have been heavy in the rotation for offence. Boy was I wrong! I still see a need for them in the spread out offence playbooks. They can provide pass blocking and still do draws and counter plays from the shotgun.
I honestly thought I was the only person who noticed this, bless you KTO! Anyone else notice the trend of extra small shoulder pads? Giants and Seahawks used to wear those alot.
I had the exact same problem pinched it my junior year and had problems all season. Threw on my butterfly collar and played pain free all of senior year.
I remember starting with a foam Collar when I played in HS.. I lost it quickly when I couldn't move my head enough. I think part of the problem with them is that the ones like Bryan Cox wore, forced you to hit with the crown.. and the NFL is really working to take those hits away.
Yes. We were coached to hit with the crown because that kept your spine straight and most power is generated through the crown down along a straigjt spine.
You’re right, on the goal line and you need a yard or two, there’s nothing quite as satisfying as watching a big ol’ fullback with a neck pad punching it into the end zone. 😎
I played fullback in middle, high school, and college. I wore the number 40 because I idolized Jim Kleinsasser, and Mike Alstot. I wore the neck roll, under the jersey of course.
As a 49ers fan and a huge fan "Juice", the best FB in the NFL, even he is essentially a Tight End that lines up in the backfield. He still lead blocks like a beast, but his best ability is as a pass catcher - often too fast for the OLBs trying to cover him. Hopefully with Lance at QB instead of Jimmy, we will see more passes his way in 2022
First, I am not an expert. Second, I grew up and played football through college in the 1980's. I wore a foam collar for help preventing hyper-extension of the neck backwards and to the sides. We were always taught correct tackling: hitting with the shoulder pads not the head. But the game is brutal, and whether intended or not, a tacklers head gets involved in the tackle...that's just the game. Third, I played nose guard and middle linebacker...and looking bigger and more intimidating is always a plus...it's a tough game and every advantage helps. Finally, now as an old man I didn't want my sons to play...I pushed them towards other sports (non-contact sports). I am suffering from degenerative arthritis and don't wish anyone that disease. If you play football at any level...please take care of yourself and have fun.
I also played same time as you did up to the JC level. The thing that scared a lot of us back then was being paralyzed due to a neck injury. Concussions were not treated as they are now. There was always stories in the news on TV, magazines or papers about some player becoming a quadriplegic from a collision in a football game every season. I had been concussed multiple times but still my fear was a neck injury.
@@chadmasters3935 Paralysis scares me too. I was playing football in 1985 when I heard that Marc Buoniconti became paralyzed making a tackle. I never thought that playing this game could cause such a major injury. I finished my season but I've never played since then and I have no regrets.
My dad played college football in the late 80s early 90s and he also preferred me and my brother to not play football. I actually ended up playing rugby because he supported me playing that. It's statistically safer with less head injuries which is what he was really worried about. My brother is more athletic than me and he's a college baseball player now. I'm sure he'd have been great at football but he never got into it. My dad wishes he'd have played college baseball instead. Probably would have helped him out in the long run. He's afraid of even play golf now afraid he may re injure his back on a swing. Crazy from coming from a guy who used to play football with a cut mouthpiece.
Similar story for myself, my Dad preferred myself and my brother not to play football; instead we played soccer and baseball in the summer, hockey in the wintertime (and some summer too) Even though hockey involved hitting, the physics and momentum of the game is different, there is not as much impact to the head and neck, your body is more upright when being hit so the force generally distributed through your body sideways
When Brian Bozworth started wearing his a bunch of guys I played football with started wearing neck rolls and the senior got to wear his number. I was fine with #60 after I found out my tiny hands couldn't hang on to the football and I sucked as a running back. I was the fastest guy as an offensive lineman lineman in three years of football. I loved running plays
Yeah like totally glossing over that a guy at Oklahoma State named his product for the team in Dallas and not the nickname of the school he worked for, nicknamed the “Cowboys”. Then there’s Steve Grogan, who looked “ridiculous” even though he was a rare QB that wore a collar and had to wear one because he had a herniated disc playing for a 1-15 team.
My neckroll saved my neck health in highschool during my linebacker days. I had to purchase brand new shoulder pads, and spider pads to protect my body from the heavy hits. I'm glad the game has been made safer. It was fun, but safety is king.
Neck pads were huge (figuratively and literally) on my high school team back in the late 90s. Mike Alstott comes to mind as a player who rocked that neck pad well.
Pacifier will always be cool. Neck roll and cowboy collar wise, I get it. It definitely helps you with your head popping back. Impact etc. It also can help guys that get stingers regularly or have nerve issues. My brother had to wear one senior year for that reason. I wore a cowboy collar in high school and loved it. Wore it my redshirt freshman year too. Got rid of it after that. Thing is, once you get to a higher level, you lose anything that’s slowing you down or inhibiting your speed. Just to be able to compete. I wanted smaller pads, smaller everything to keep up. If you can do the job with it, more power to you, and if you need it for safety issues/physical issues, I get it. But the game is faster. You’ll see them come back as the game moves back to big LBs, big RBs, FBs, and more ground game I formation offenses. It’s been play action and pro style so long now. It’s pass and speedy Gonzalez most of the time. But we’re already seeing TE’s coming back. We’re also seeing teams get destroyed at power running offenses. So it’s cyclical. It’ll go back to 230-250 lb lbs, fbs and Rbs. And when that happens they’ll be needed again by some guys.
So you think the cowboy collar, that was invented by a doctor from Oklahoma State, where their mascot is the cowboys, was named that because a cowboys player wore it in the NFL? You don't think it might have had something to do with the Oklahoma State Cowboy that invented it?
I wore one in the same era. I liked that it kept your head from whipping back when you tackle. Especially back when leading with your head was acceptable.
@@raystonge154 Also don't comment on your own comment. Re edit or make new one. Allow others to view and comment on your comment. Flagged as false boostery to comment and attention seeking
Blast from the past! I wore a neck roll for years when I played. I don't recall it ever actually doing anything beneficial, it was just part of the kit at the time. Don't recall ever thinking "glad I was wearing that" after a big hit or anything. Maybe just me and I didn't put a lot of thought into it. Could say that about a few things of my younger self though.
Watching this reminded me of watching the Vikings great Randall McDaniel. He was a big bully who usually repped the neck roll. Thanks for another great video KTO! Keep up the great work!
Vander Esh didn't look too bad last season especially in that playoff game against the 49ers he balled out especially on the first down saving tackle on Deebo Samuel were talking about DEEBO FUCKING SAMUEL
Lol there’s a RUclips video for everything . I used to wear a neck roll in 2010-11 during high school football. I was a 6’2 OLB & tight end , it was more intimidating than anything
Absolutely crazy how close you are to a million subs man. Good for you well deserved been here since 2019 love the videos dog. Also crazy how when i was growing up playing football(10-12 years ago), we were taught to lower our head... Crazy
My high school team (2004-06) had players with almost all varieties of neckrolls. Our starting FB had the covered roll "Okoye", as did I, as an offensive guard. It definitely added to his intimidation factor, as he was 6'3", 230 lb. He looked like a pro-football FB in high school. Almost all of our middle LBs had cowboy collars, and our starting left tackle had the butterfly neckroll. Back then, at least 75% of HS football teams still relied on the running game, so neck rolls were still prominent. I still see them today with some high school teams, though it's definitely more of an intimidation factor than anything. Gives you the look of a tank.
Ruben Foster when he was at Alabama was the last person that looked pretty cool wearing it.. but I'm sure him running down on kickoffs absolutely obliterating people definitely helped 😂
I grew up at the end of the neck pad era and damn near our whole football team had one we were like iconic for our neck rolls and big ass shoulder pads 😂 it’s gladiator shit it’s your armor that shit was awesome I love it
Was the "Dickerson" face mask a thing where you played ball? I remember everybody and their cousin wanted to have that certain kind of face mask, along with the horseshoe, not the neck roll but the horseshoe LOL
Something similar has gone on in motocross and downhill mountain biking. They had these halo devices you would wear under a full face helmet, to protect the neck. For a while, it was the must-have accessory for ultimate badassery. Now-a-days, you rarely see them, because of the dubious effectiveness and restriction of range-of-motion. I still have my $600 carbon fiber Alpinestars neck brace, that lives in storage. When I was a big football fan and played alot of Madden on PS2, a neck pad was a requirement for my create-a-player
I remember being more than a little excited when I tweaked my neck in JV football my soph year because it meant I could get my dad to buy a cowboy collar. Wore it until senior year when I upgraded to a butterfly neck plate. Probably never hit anyone hard enough to necessitate it's use, but damn I felt like I looked tough as hell.
this is easily the greatest channel FULL of quality, really dope videos that i can throw on at any time of day and enjoy. keep up the incredible work and impeccable storytelling my friend!
Btw KTO. You said in this video that Bryan cox went to Florida. That was actually his son Bryan Cox Jr. Not Bryan Sr
My mistake. At least it’s cool that he honored his father with the La Z boy neck pad!
@@KTOfootball hey not to comment highjack but wasn’t it named for the Oklahoma State Cowboys like Gatorade was for Florida. I might be wrong....
@@KTOfootball yeah he was one of my favorite players on my Gators during the mid 2010s
no one cares
@@zlonex6 About your comment, no we don't.
The neck pads save you from suffering the worst kind of concussion where your head gets whiplashed into the ground. The pain is intense and temporarily blinds you.
Definitely life saver
Idk if theres a worst kind of concussion. They’re all pretty serious to varying degrees
@@poindextertunes true
@@poindextertunesthey usually are worse, because of the added lever. You’re getting the full velocity of your gravity pulling your head to the ground, compounded with that of your body. Like a whip
Playing football as a linemen being a kid in the ‘96-‘08 era, the neck pad was the most savage looking equipment.
No it wasn't. By that time, after 2000s it looks silly and lacked swag
@@mbdeuceduece4451imagine gatekeeping sports equipment
Surprised you didn't mention Mike Alstott! That dude repped the neck roll like no other! Great fullback/halfback too!
Came here to say this. Instead went with a clip of a no-name Patriots FB??
Also came here to say "how do you make a neckpad video without the A-Train!?"
Mistakes were made lol. I got caught up showing the evolution of the different pieces of equipment and just spaced it on showing Alstott. I'll find a way to show some respect to the A-Train in the future!
@@thewave1983 Hey Develin was a pro bowler in 2017, definitely not the level of Alstott though
I came here to mention him too!!
4 year NCAA football player here. I couldn't have made it through playing football without my cowboy collar. I don't give a shit about the statistics. I had repeated stingers when hitting, but once I put on the cowboy collar, I never had one. I played offensive line. It helped me and kept my neck safe. The other big thing not mentioned is neck training
There's no way I would have survived blocking large pacific island men without it. My knees however, have died.
@@WavveBoi LOL
I used to be on the few kids who used the neck machine in high school. Never got a concession while playing guard, fullback, and in the front 7
Me too…loved my Cowboy Collar in college…used it as a Fullback then when I changed to MLB
where did you play?
I love seeing all the Mike Alstott mentions. Glad he’s still getting respect despite the game changing so much. Seems like he is pretty widely appreciated but if you’re too young to have experienced him, look up some highlights. A-Train was the man. A surprisingly good receiver out of the backfield too.
Bro if you was a hard nose bell cow FB/RB that didn’t make a ton of ppl miss and you like to run shit over you had on a cowboy collar
Mike Alstott is currently the best FB in Madden, and looks like he will remain that way, since Madden 23 releases this season
Alstott will forever be one of my favorite players to see highlights of. Just pure power. He definitely didn't have break away speed. But he didn't need it.
I wish fullbacks would make a return lol.
There's like 3 true fullbacks in the league
He looked like a hunchback He-man with that thing on. He had or nearly ran for 1,000 yards as a fullback.
When I was around 8-10 years old, so around 95-97, our high school team was great and the RB wore #14, with a visor and neck roll with the jersey over the roll and sewn into the pads. He also wore soccer cleats before it was a thing and had those things spatted so much you could probably run his foot over with a truck and he wouldn’t feel it. I can still see him scurrying down the sideline with those enormous pads flapping like wings as guys dove at his feet. This kid has back to back 1700+ yard seasons and was the reason the team was back to back district champs. Still one of the coolest looks of all time.
Mike Alstott was legendary with his neck roll and power running.
I’ve worn all kinds of neck rolls throughout my high school and college playing days. By far the McDavid Cowboy Collar was the most effective. I’ve had countless instances when my head was jolted back into the cowboy collars during contact. The Cowboy Collar was a Linebackers best friend.
Was that the one that bolted directly into the back of the shoulder pads?
@@Da219StarWarsGuy nope the original one that just went under the shoulder pads and came out of the neck area. It was lightweight, water resistant, and durable. One quality Cowboy Collar would last for two or three seasons easily.
@@brianbrown7530 I recall playing with guys that used it. I used the shock absorber under my shoulder pads. Basically looked like a half inch thick foam web. I didn't use it in practice once and got a stinger. Never went without it again. Kind of doubled as a foam collar since it closed that gap between the helmet and shoulder pads.
I played in the late 80s and early 90s. I wore the same collar that Bozworth had for one game. I hated it. I felt like it kept me from keeping my head up. I never understood how guys could wear any of these collars.
Not just a linebacker’s best friend. Lineman’s too.
Helped keep my neck from getting injured when I had To block LBs coming in at full speed.
I played in the Big10 from 96-2000. We started w the huge foam collars, then evolved to cowboy collars…. Then lineman started wearing wide receiver pads to enhance range of motion. I think that was the catalyst. Lotta guys felt constricted in collars. If you were a down guy, the thing often prevented you from seeing what was in front of you. When I got to the pros, the thing practically disappeared completely.
Where did you play professional football?
@@GiantsRTheBest1his mind 😅
The fullbacks with the massive pads under the jersey was such an intimidating look
watch defensive minded football coaches bring the fullback back mark my words
Lorenzo neal
@@fadercreek It’s a passing league. Fullbacks are dead
@@skylinesranches2 not if they can become good receivers
@@fadercreek I don’t think you actually know what a fullback is or does
I used to rock a neck roll in highschool and to be honest it really helped my neck a lot and I say that despite what research says now because my problem was the way my neck would snap up for some reason when I was a lineman more than it should so that extra support helped keep that from happening. Sure it wasn't gonna prevent a concussion or anything but it helped with my playing posture which helped step up my game even though I knew I was never gonna get a scholarship or anything but it's always more fun when you do a little better.
Well said.
I had one in high-school. I wanted to be kool
Back in the day Christian Okoye always looked in beast mode with that collar. So did Mike Alstott.
When I was in high school we played this team called Martins Ferry, and their star fullback/lineman wore a cowboy collar, I think he was first team All-state in football and wrestling. He actually was the inspiration for me to wear one when I got to college.
Great video as always KTO, keep it up dude!
Talking about eastern Ohio?
@@jruth77 Yeah by Wheeling WV
@@ShawnMcClurg haha I’m from central Ohio and am familiar with eastern Ohio. We wrestled Martin’s ferry, claymont, Steubenville, st clairsville, Barnesville and so on in high school a bunch
Did you play football or did you wear it to class for intimidation?
@@JJS1985 said the badass on the internet
Thank you for showing Bryan Cox some love. When I think neck pad, the immediate image in my head is Bryan Cox on the mid-nineties Bears, with that folding chair sticking out the back of his collar!
Fwiw… Cox played college ball at Western Illinois
Mike Alstott was one of the last players who made the neck pad look.
@Namfonos he was the last of the real Mohicans
FB reallly isnt a position anymore correct?, Should just be called a BB for Back-Blocker :D
The Patriots James Develin wore one just a couple years ago.
Just dont understand why he's not in the Hall of Fame
He was more of a tailback
It's a neat power boost item that adds +10 to your strength and durability attributes. I don't get why people don't use it more in their builds.
Ya but -5 agility, -5 speed. So it depends on your build, and if you're trying to min/max because it's a tradeoff for sure.
They work well if you like hitting helmet to helmet
It's off-meta these days, sadly.
😂
My favorite part of creating a player in NFL 2k5 was being able to pick things like the neck pad and mouth pieces for your player
I played fullback and middle linebacker. I had a neckroll then a cowboy collar and the neck roll was better and more comfortable. I went back to the foam roll. I also lead with my head (not recommended)
Let’s get this man to 1 mil subs he deserves it I l have been watching for a long time
Fr I remember making a comment like this over 4 years ago and him hearting it GOAT content
True, he does.
Facts same
Big time. K the oracle is a must watch
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Every time I saw Tedy Bruschi walking out of the patriots tunnel with that giant neck pad I got chills
I've still got my old collar from high school and I loved playing with it for the intimidation factor that had. That being said I learned some valuable lessons if you're going to use one.
First off you got to make sure you form tackle because if you lead with your head the restriction will actually make it worse because it pretty much guarantees that the entire force is going to straight into your neck.
Secondly depending on how well fitted your pads and collar combination are it severely limits how much your head can move. This might not sound too bad but there are several times where I pretty much had to turn my entire body to look if it was too far to the side.
Like I said don't regret wearing it but you do have to change your game a bit if you're not used to it.
It must have been great for naps on the sideline though.
@@imaouima 10/10 would recommend
I threw my buddies on one game as a joke when he was hurt. I was playing tight end and yeah 3 plays in i went to turn around and was like "oh fuck this is all wrong" and had to take it out. Fucking thing could not be more in the way.
@@421less1 playing fullback made it a little easier since I was either running or hunting linebackers in a straigt line but on defence I don't know how any of the high level guys can stand to play with them.
Why do you still have it?
This was a great video! Brought back ole nostalgia. Bryan Cox, Zach Thomas, Lorenzo Neal, Bill Romanoski. Takeo Spikes when asked why was his neck so big he said that a coach told him having a big neck would prevent concussions.
KTO is one of the best NFL ytbers there is, gives us epic knowledge 24/7!
Having the neck roll under the jersey really gave it that iconic cartoony look. Never knew that was where it actually came from and that they actually looked like that.
I didnt even know about Cory Schlesinger until my dad saw he was one of my teachers in high school. Schles was a coolest chillest giant man ever
Fun fact: The Steeler blasting Earl Campell was Donnie Shell. In college, we called him the Donnie Neck because of his massive neck muscles. When he wore turtleneck sweaters it looked like he was wearing a collar underneath. After signing with the steelers he bought a car with a vanity tag that read "D Neck".
Bro Schlesinger was my favorite player for so long him and Calvin are my favorite lions players of all time. Dude was a beast. He's the reason I wore 30 most of my life and the reason I started out as a fullback who went head first into the hole. I got to meet him a few times and he was so cool. Greatest moment of my life was meeting him
I"ll raise my hand on this one. I wore a cowboy collar all throughout high school in 2000-2004. With my jersey tucked over it. I was trying to mimic Mike Alstott (who played 25 miles up the road at JCA) who I think was just starting his reign in the NFL. I looked like a badass then and digging out an old yearbook right now... Yeah, still badass. (edit: Honestly, I think it did help with neck safety, but when it comes to my noggin... yeah not so much.)
it 100% helped my chronic neck! in 2013 (senior year) I rocked one all year and my stinging I would get in my neck during a tackle almost completely vanished lol
Joliet catholic was in our conference. They were a beast at football but we always beat them in basketball. I went to st Joe's 2000 - 2004
Thank you for including the James Devlin run. One of the reasons Bill still loved the FB position. Highly underrated highlight
Leighton Vanderesch wears his still.. the player I remember it most for was Dexter Coakley ✭
I played Jr high to college football from 99-2007 and wore a cowboy collar as a O/D lineman and LB mostly. I used to get "stingers" even though we were taught tackling safety very well. Especially around the time Corey Stringer died (yes dehydration is a whole different issue, but safety in all aspects were emphasized even more)
once I wore a cowboy collar I never had another issue other than range of motion in a 3pt stance. I used to be reluctant to hit/block as hard because I didn't want to hurt my neck until I wore one of the collars. Plus I played LB mostly looking sweet with my #54 😂
Wow, Junior High in 1999, which means you were like 12 or 13, which means you were born in 1986 or 87, and now you're 35, how does it feel being old?...lol
@@armybeef68 it sucks, take good care of your body while you're young, train, but don't over do it, there are injuries that will haunt your for life
Maybe I’m drunk. Or maybe this is the best football commentator on all of RUclips. Maybe it’s a little of both.
Miss the big full backs with the neckpads. Mike allstot, lorenzo neal were classic examples
I miss fullbacks
William Henderson.
I assumed fullbacks would have been heavy in the rotation for offence. Boy was I wrong! I still see a need for them in the spread out offence playbooks. They can provide pass blocking and still do draws and counter plays from the shotgun.
Tom Rathman
LORENZO NEAL WAS THE MAN
KTO pound for pound is one of the best documentary style sports You-tubers. His content is on par if not better than many big budget broadcasts.
I honestly thought I was the only person who noticed this, bless you KTO! Anyone else notice the trend of extra small shoulder pads? Giants and Seahawks used to wear those alot.
Scooby Wright of the USFL wears a neck pad/roll. Shit looks badass.
I used a cowboy collar back in the day, back when head to head collisions were allowed. I can't believe they discontinued making them
When I heard that I was shocked
The reasons start @ 6:32
I played with one of these butterfly collars. Honestly I feel like I could never have played without it after my pinched nerve.
I had the exact same problem pinched it my junior year and had problems all season. Threw on my butterfly collar and played pain free all of senior year.
Lol! I did, too, then upgraded to cowboy collar.
I had a butterfly restrictor, made me feel unstoppable. Broke a couple of them 🤣 concussions made me feel stopped though
I remember starting with a foam Collar when I played in HS.. I lost it quickly when I couldn't move my head enough. I think part of the problem with them is that the ones like Bryan Cox wore, forced you to hit with the crown.. and the NFL is really working to take those hits away.
Yes. We were coached to hit with the crown because that kept your spine straight and most power is generated through the crown down along a straigjt spine.
Shame they refuse to take action against running backs using their helmet
Mike Alstott was my favorite 🤩. Dude was a beast
I gotta say when I was growing up with highlights of Al Wilson at Tennessee, that was one badass look and for him perfectly.
Ladamian Tomlinson with the tinted visor while killing defenders on the field will always be iconic.
You’re right, on the goal line and you need a yard or two, there’s nothing quite as satisfying as watching a big ol’ fullback with a neck pad punching it into the end zone. 😎
I played fullback in middle, high school, and college. I wore the number 40 because I idolized Jim Kleinsasser, and Mike Alstot. I wore the neck roll, under the jersey of course.
Kleinsasser was more of an undersized guard.
Mike Alsttott was an iconic example too
Something about classic pads and neckrolls is just quintessentially “Football”
That James Develin run has always remained one of my all time favorite football plays. Truly showcasing a dying facet of the game.
you really dont see dudes bowling over 4 tacklers like that anymore.. maybe king henry, but that's not even the same class..
As a 49ers fan and a huge fan "Juice", the best FB in the NFL, even he is essentially a Tight End that lines up in the backfield. He still lead blocks like a beast, but his best ability is as a pass catcher - often too fast for the OLBs trying to cover him. Hopefully with Lance at QB instead of Jimmy, we will see more passes his way in 2022
Yeah that’s one of the best goal line runs I’ve ever seen. Pure determination and will power. Love to see it.
Loved having Develin on the Pats, glad he was able to retire as champ
@@PaulGaither go niners!!! Juice is so good at blocking him & Trent are amazing to watch block
Oh man, I’m early & btw love your content KTO never stop doing it! 🔥🙌🏻
Every one of KTO's endings are fire. When that song drops it just hits everytime.
First, I am not an expert. Second, I grew up and played football through college in the 1980's. I wore a foam collar for help preventing hyper-extension of the neck backwards and to the sides. We were always taught correct tackling: hitting with the shoulder pads not the head. But the game is brutal, and whether intended or not, a tacklers head gets involved in the tackle...that's just the game. Third, I played nose guard and middle linebacker...and looking bigger and more intimidating is always a plus...it's a tough game and every advantage helps. Finally, now as an old man I didn't want my sons to play...I pushed them towards other sports (non-contact sports). I am suffering from degenerative arthritis and don't wish anyone that disease. If you play football at any level...please take care of yourself and have fun.
I also played same time as you did up to the JC level. The thing that scared a lot of us back then was being paralyzed due to a neck injury. Concussions were not treated as they are now. There was always stories in the news on TV, magazines or papers about some player becoming a quadriplegic from a collision in a football game every season. I had been concussed multiple times but still my fear was a neck injury.
@@chadmasters3935 Paralysis scares me too. I was playing football in 1985 when I heard that Marc Buoniconti became paralyzed making a tackle. I never thought that playing this game could cause such a major injury. I finished my season but I've never played since then and I have no regrets.
My dad played college football in the late 80s early 90s and he also preferred me and my brother to not play football. I actually ended up playing rugby because he supported me playing that. It's statistically safer with less head injuries which is what he was really worried about. My brother is more athletic than me and he's a college baseball player now. I'm sure he'd have been great at football but he never got into it. My dad wishes he'd have played college baseball instead. Probably would have helped him out in the long run. He's afraid of even play golf now afraid he may re injure his back on a swing. Crazy from coming from a guy who used to play football with a cut mouthpiece.
Similar story for myself, my Dad preferred myself and my brother not to play football; instead we played soccer and baseball in the summer, hockey in the wintertime (and some summer too)
Even though hockey involved hitting, the physics and momentum of the game is different, there is not as much impact to the head and neck, your body is more upright when being hit so the force generally distributed through your body sideways
I'm surprised you didn't mention Mike Alstott, Tampa Bay full back
Mike alstott with the neck roll and Brian Dawkins with the blacked out visor that's Style
When Brian Bozworth started wearing his a bunch of guys I played football with started wearing neck rolls and the senior got to wear his number.
I was fine with #60 after I found out my tiny hands couldn't hang on to the football and I sucked as a running back. I was the fastest guy as an offensive lineman lineman in three years of football. I loved running plays
The amount of work this guy does for every video is crazy
Yeah like totally glossing over that a guy at Oklahoma State named his product for the team in Dallas and not the nickname of the school he worked for, nicknamed the “Cowboys”. Then there’s Steve Grogan, who looked “ridiculous” even though he was a rare QB that wore a collar and had to wear one because he had a herniated disc playing for a 1-15 team.
@@chrisconley8583 do you happen to know where the name “whale tale” neck pad roll comes from
My neckroll saved my neck health in highschool during my linebacker days. I had to purchase brand new shoulder pads, and spider pads to protect my body from the heavy hits. I'm glad the game has been made safer. It was fun, but safety is king.
You sound brittle, maybe you shouldn't of played football.
Neck pads were huge (figuratively and literally) on my high school team back in the late 90s. Mike Alstott comes to mind as a player who rocked that neck pad well.
These were iconic for sure back in the day, a cool informative video as always KTO
2:39 Please tell me that Jim’s book was titled, “Otto-Biography.”
Corey Schlesinger. He broke a few facemasks in his day. Now teaches CAD in the Detroit area and is still awesome from what I hear!
6:34 is when he starts explaining
... why would you skip past the set up? Do you have that low of an attention span?
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 that tik tok/ instagram attention span lol
Pacifier will always be cool. Neck roll and cowboy collar wise, I get it. It definitely helps you with your head popping back. Impact etc. It also can help guys that get stingers regularly or have nerve issues. My brother had to wear one senior year for that reason. I wore a cowboy collar in high school and loved it. Wore it my redshirt freshman year too. Got rid of it after that. Thing is, once you get to a higher level, you lose anything that’s slowing you down or inhibiting your speed. Just to be able to compete. I wanted smaller pads, smaller everything to keep up. If you can do the job with it, more power to you, and if you need it for safety issues/physical issues, I get it. But the game is faster. You’ll see them come back as the game moves back to big LBs, big RBs, FBs, and more ground game I formation offenses. It’s been play action and pro style so long now. It’s pass and speedy Gonzalez most of the time. But we’re already seeing TE’s coming back. We’re also seeing teams get destroyed at power running offenses. So it’s cyclical. It’ll go back to 230-250 lb lbs, fbs and Rbs. And when that happens they’ll be needed again by some guys.
So you think the cowboy collar, that was invented by a doctor from Oklahoma State, where their mascot is the cowboys, was named that because a cowboys player wore it in the NFL?
You don't think it might have had something to do with the Oklahoma State Cowboy that invented it?
I was thinking the same. I don’t know either way but that’s where my mind went.
after all, Gatorade is called Gatorade for a reason
I thought it was because it looked like a collar real cowboys would wear.
Came here to write the exact same thing
Glad I am not the only one thinking this.
I always thought those neck pads and tinted visors looked intimidating af.
I used to wear one in high school, back in 2003. I just liked that it made me look bigger.
I wore one in the same era. I liked that it kept your head from whipping back when you tackle. Especially back when leading with your head was acceptable.
1:04 Is that Jason Cabinda on the Lions??? how have i never noticed his neck roll?
I guess he's been wearing one since college? Shows how much fullbacks are utilized
@@raystonge154 Also don't comment on your own comment. Re edit or make new one. Allow others to view and comment on your comment. Flagged as false boostery to comment and attention seeking
I wore a neck roll to limit my head movement. I had a nasty disc injury early and the roll really helped.
@KTO bring back the podcast sports therapy. Loved listening to that, great topics and loved the overall feel.
Mike Alstott was the coolest guy ever with the neck pad! Miss that era of football.
Leighton Vander Esch still wears one 💯
Blast from the past! I wore a neck roll for years when I played. I don't recall it ever actually doing anything beneficial, it was just part of the kit at the time. Don't recall ever thinking "glad I was wearing that" after a big hit or anything. Maybe just me and I didn't put a lot of thought into it. Could say that about a few things of my younger self though.
Watching this reminded me of watching the Vikings great Randall McDaniel. He was a big bully who usually repped the neck roll. Thanks for another great video KTO! Keep up the great work!
Vander Esch still got one makes him look bad ass… wish he played like one tho
Vander Esh didn't look too bad last season especially in that playoff game against the 49ers he balled out especially on the first down saving tackle on Deebo Samuel were talking about DEEBO FUCKING SAMUEL
@@mojoetube9930 yes that was literally all he did last year
And then, he was joined by his neckpad army 😂
Love it.
Mike Alstott in my opinion was the last best player with a neckpad.
Nah, nobody beats Brian Cox on neckpad departament
@@LordDefekator nah Mike Alstott is better known for the look and power style running
I feel the Boz , Brian Bosworth should have been mentioned.
You can’t talk about neck pads without Brian Cox, period!
Um, he did.
Lol there’s a RUclips video for everything . I used to wear a neck roll in 2010-11 during high school football. I was a 6’2 OLB & tight end , it was more intimidating than anything
Absolutely crazy how close you are to a million subs man. Good for you well deserved been here since 2019 love the videos dog. Also crazy how when i was growing up playing football(10-12 years ago), we were taught to lower our head... Crazy
Just found this channel. LOVE the shoutout to Anvilhead. Loved watching Corey play
You forgot to mention Mike Alstott and Tom Rathman. Two neck pad legends!
LMFAOOOO 6:10 once in a lifetime event! I bet even the ad men were kicking themselves for not thinking this scenario up!
I still use them on madden 😤💯💪🏾 the cowboy collar and butterfly
My high school team (2004-06) had players with almost all varieties of neckrolls. Our starting FB had the covered roll "Okoye", as did I, as an offensive guard. It definitely added to his intimidation factor, as he was 6'3", 230 lb. He looked like a pro-football FB in high school.
Almost all of our middle LBs had cowboy collars, and our starting left tackle had the butterfly neckroll.
Back then, at least 75% of HS football teams still relied on the running game, so neck rolls were still prominent. I still see them today with some high school teams, though it's definitely more of an intimidation factor than anything. Gives you the look of a tank.
Ruben Foster when he was at Alabama was the last person that looked pretty cool wearing it.. but I'm sure him running down on kickoffs absolutely obliterating people definitely helped 😂
I grew up at the end of the neck pad era and damn near our whole football team had one we were like iconic for our neck rolls and big ass shoulder pads 😂 it’s gladiator shit it’s your armor that shit was awesome I love it
Mike alstott neck pad made him a real life juggernaut.
Great video. I played in the 90s (high school) and cowboy collars were all over the place. They did add an intimidation factor for sure.
Was the "Dickerson" face mask a thing where you played ball?
I remember everybody and their cousin wanted to have that certain kind of face mask, along with the horseshoe, not the neck roll but the horseshoe LOL
@@marcellussims4831 Lol, yup. You bet.
The neck pad absolutely restricts movement, not quite sure if that would help head injuries but it would definitely help to prevent neck injuries
Something similar has gone on in motocross and downhill mountain biking. They had these halo devices you would wear under a full face helmet, to protect the neck. For a while, it was the must-have accessory for ultimate badassery. Now-a-days, you rarely see them, because of the dubious effectiveness and restriction of range-of-motion. I still have my $600 carbon fiber Alpinestars neck brace, that lives in storage. When I was a big football fan and played alot of Madden on PS2, a neck pad was a requirement for my create-a-player
I'm hurt you didn't include Mike Alstott 😂
Mike Alstott. The reason why I wore my neck roll.
I remember being more than a little excited when I tweaked my neck in JV football my soph year because it meant I could get my dad to buy a cowboy collar. Wore it until senior year when I upgraded to a butterfly neck plate. Probably never hit anyone hard enough to necessitate it's use, but damn I felt like I looked tough as hell.
you look good, you feel good, you play good.
Someone has to wear a cowboy collar, dark visor, flimsy chin strap, 30 arm bands and tube socks
The cowboy collar was genuinely intimidating. They really did slowly fade away without anyone noticing.
this is easily the greatest channel FULL of quality, really dope videos that i can throw on at any time of day and enjoy. keep up the incredible work and impeccable storytelling my friend!
Begin video at 6:37....jesus christ it took this guy forever to get to the point.
Thank you
Mike Alstott and Payton Hillis was the most talented Neckroll player