Good Celestial Dragons & The Revolutionary Army
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Thoughts on the Celestial Dragons that have exhibited humanity, such as Homing and Mjosgard? Are there other dragons in the Holy Land that have similar views and would they be allied with Dragon?
00:00 - INTRO
01:33 - Humanity In Dragons
05:42 - Tenryubitto Families
13:42 - Mjosgard's Mission
23:34 - Dragon's Revolution
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As a Haitian I nearly JUMPED from hearing my country be named, thanks for the awesome video! Love you man.
Total surprise as well. 1st generation born from Haitian parents. Thanks Tekking! Saq Pase!
Nice
Hey I'm not alone! 😁
Wut
Hey I've got a question I've been meaning to ask for a long while. How did things go after the earthquake from a Haitian perspective? Been wondering this literally ever since it was first reported on.
He barely counts as a celestial dragon, but Donquixote Rosinante is probably the best one, seeing as he had the same background as Doflamingo and still turned out okay.
Tekking forgot that in Japan and One Piece surnames come before given names.
Saint Donquixote Mjosgard is from the Donquixote family.
So Saint Jaygarcia Saturn is most likely from the Jaygarcia family.
Which would mean he was probably chosen at birth to be one of the gorosei
I think is Garcia alone jai is the name and Saturn is a title
@@jackroberts2704 im stareting to believe the celestials look down on teh five elders, they are like eternal servants of their kingdom/imu , so their children take over or they are immortal but they are servants , them not wearing the bubble gives me a feeling that celestials look down on those that breath same air as humans,
@@bilalchiiino3423that dont make sense at all. The Gorousei dont wear bubles because that is stupid. The other nobles uses bubles only when going to the lower nations, but they dont need that space suit, Mjosgard had his helmet destroyed when he landed on fishmen island and nothing changed, while Chalos buble was destroyed by Luffy and he also is normal. The Gorousei however have a real job in leading the goverment, so is not like they would walk around with stupid bubles. It makes more sense for the gorousei to look down on the other people than the opposite, since they are just lazy and do nothing, while the gorousei actually do stuff.
Also with exception of Saturn going to Egghead, all scenes of the gorousei they are in Mary Geoise, and no one uses helmets or bubles there, so why would the other nobles hate them for that?
I was rewatching Charlos kidnapping Shirahoshi and the Mjosgard scene happened and after dwelling on it I started to cry seeing there was hope, atonement, and humanity in a Celestial Dragon even after what happened to Homing died trying to be a decent man in a world not ready to forgive any of his people and for justifiable reasons.
I love that scene so much, especially cause lucci and the rest of cp0 just have to sit there and watch
I saw the English dub of that scene last week, and the guy who played adult Mjosgard did a good job. What really struck me was that it was Queen Otohime who saved Mjosgard, and helped him discover his humanity. Thus, Otohime's mercy gained the Ryugu Kingdom a powerful ally in Mariejois. Had she not stopped those fishmen from taking revenge on Mjosgard, he would never have been there to save Shirahoshi, and the last hope of King Neptune's people one day returning to the surface would have been dead in the water (pun intended).
It's a bit similar to how Bilbo sparing Gollum ultimately led to the destruction of the One Ring.
And now he is d4ed by his fellow nobles. There is no redemption for the world nobles at large.
@@stormstrider1990 True, I saw the English dub version as well....
Too bad he's dead! RIP, Mjosgard. He deserve justice.
Shoutout to Doffy and Corazon’s parents. They really must’ve realized how shitty the WG was and tried to move to land with decent people to host a better setting for their kids.
That's not what happened
...then realised how shitty life is and moved to Heaven.
The parents may have had an admirable plan -- yet their previously preferred way of life, left them very out of touch.
I still find it kinda crazy how people actually hate Homing. Like yeah his plan wasn’t thought out but his heart was in the right place. People act like he doesn’t seem the type to make amends if somebody just…explained it to him.
Nahh they we're completely oblivious, if they knew that then they would have stayed on marijoa knowing at least they'd be much safer
The family name of the gorosei is Jaygarcia, Saturn is his name
17:23 probably one of the most beautiful lines you’ve ever said on your channel. I must say, I love most of your content, but my favorite of yours is when you get deep and insightful like this. Really appreciate this video 🙏🏾
Words cannot describe my happiness at seeing a Mjosgard video
Whenever his name gets brought up, i can't help but think of the ''Oath Of Brother'' OST that keeps playing in my head during Levely arc
AS A HAITIAN, I can confirm we had the first black republic.
proud my country's history made into a one piece video 🙌🙌🙌🙌🥲🥲🥲🥲
Woo!
Thats something to be proud of actually. Respect
congratulations, i mean haiti kinda needed something to be proud of.
besides drugs,gangs and murder that is....assuming some are proud of that, mainly because it's tthe most outstanding thing.
Shout out to tekking going into history. Never have I heard a RUclipsr discuss the Haitian revolution as a tangent. You're the best dude
There's a semi hostory channel called "Knowing Better." I think you'll like his channel
I'm just going to say the dragon duck meme has always been great and surprisingly ticking wasn't very far off from what kaido's fruit actually was
Dude this is insane, I am rewatching the dressrossa arc and I’m at doffys backstory. I said earlier I hope I can find some to go into greater detail about the celestial dragons. I wonder if tekking made one. When this video popped up I thought my iPhone was doing targeted ads lol.
More buffy references please, it always makes my day when you bring it up
Shouldn't JayGarcia be the family name based on how most of the names in One Piece are written?
Yeah like monkey d luffy, Edward Newgate etc, their last name is first
He literally explained why he thinks it’s not…
There's the possibility that Blackbeard wants to overthrow the Celestial Dragons and fulfill Xebec's plan to become King of the World. Because of what Tekking said in terms of Dragon having to still be a hero, it might be that the problem solves itself before Dragon can get there. Blackbeard goes into Marigeoise, uses the Op Op fruit method Doflamingo talked about to take over the world, and then kills Imu and the Gorosei. Then when he has control of the sky weapon or whatever, he struts out into the open and declares all the citizens at Marigeoise to be his slaves. Charlos object, but then Shiryuu just slices his head off.
God, the image of Shiryu slicing Charlos head off would be iconic.
This seems very plausible to happen and very in character for BB, knowing his brutality. I wonder what the national treasure could be, that's ought to be a good video idea for tekking
And then Luffy uses Bajrang Gun Gatling
@@peterang78 ngl would have called Shiryu a hero for that lol
You really think it's that easy to overthrow the world government don't you.
I'm not convinced the gorosei family names are the planet names. With how Japanese usually have names backwards
Yes, all characters follow the same Japanese scheme of last name followed by first name.
Saint Donquixote Mjosgard is from the Donquixote family.
So Saint Jaygarcia Saturn is most likely from the Jaygarcia family.
Which matches the Spanish origin of the name Donquixote.
Nefertari is of Egyptian origin, perhaps because they are the exception of noble families.
I've had a theory for awhile that Im keeps the Celestial Dragons around and allows them to get away with so many horrible things to act as a shield against potential revolutions. Anyone who wanted to overthrow the current world government would probably focus on eliminating the evil Celestial Dragons and the Gorosei, never realizing that there is someone above even them.
It is possible. The Gorosei did say that the marines are the public face of the world government, it is likely that they themselves are Im's public face, them being known as the leaders of the world government would allow him perfect cover.
That makes no sense at all. Im is as evil as the other world nobles, he destroyed a entire island and probably has done worse in the past. The other nobles live there because they are descendents of the original 19 kings, not because Im needs to protect himself.
The reason of why the nobles are protected is because there the law that protects them from harm. This law was probably created when some tenryubitoo were being attacked in the past centuries ago, giving them the power to create laws to making them above the law and completely shielded by the Admirals, that has nothing to do with Im.
Don't make assumptions as to what lengths to protect oneself are considered absurd. I have seen fictions where individuals have created and regulated companies, cults, even entire countries or kingdoms to protect themselves and their interests or plans from view. Granted most of the individuals who do this tend to be long-lived individuals who can afford to look forward hundreds or thousands of years.
I have been wondering if one of the Gorosei or even a Celestial Dragons might turn against the rest and help the revolution army, Luffy and the rest because they are tired of how things are ran with the government.
I think Jay garcia saturn is actually going to egghead to betray the gorosei or somehow express his support for luffy
@@eliaspanayi3465 Imagine if that's the "world shaking event," a Gorosei turns traitor
@@commonviewer2488 I think my main concern would be what Kizaru would do in that situation…. Maybe he’d just accept orders from the leader in front of him, maybe he’d clean out the whole place, maybe he’d just fk off to some tropical island with a decent supply of pot 🤣
They are tired? They are the ones responsible for the goverment. So if the goverment is evil, is because of them. But at least two of them could turn against Im.
@@eliaspanayi3465that would be too anti dramatic. He are in the final saga. The villain is the world goverment. And them one of the six most important people of the goverment betrays them? That would give Luffy to much power, since he would have by his side all the knowlegde of the world goverment.
Thank you for the video! I always enjoy watching your videos!
Love the video and keep up the great work tekking
Thank you for this. This actually helps me with my fan fiction story.
great video tekking, I would love for you to do some history research like this for all of one piece's arcs
You did not mention the most famous revolution - the french revolution is also extremely Dark!
I have heard so much abt Dragon's ship and its inspirations this week from so many different sources.
Love how much you know about random stuff super interesting listening to you man
Mjosgard's change of heart is one of the sweetest redemption arcs in fiction. I would make my kid read the manga solely so I can talk with him about it.
I think you meant Dulcinea but yeah also that novel is pure comedic gold. I wish I could have been his faithful squire.
I like good celestial dragons. They have all the power to do whatever they want and get away with it, yet they still choose to be good people. Someone’s character is tested when they are given power, and these celestial dragons proved that absolute power doesn’t have to corrupt absolutely.
You see in Sabo's flashback that corruption starts early among nobles. The children are told that everything's they do to those born lower than them are simply inferior and undeserving of any consideration. That's how they justify burning/killing a large commute of the homeless; not their own people, literal garbage. There's a decent track record of noble children who interacted with the people outside that environment who grew to be decent. Sabo, Vivi, even Corazón, grew to be admirable.
@@commonviewer2488 Indeed, I recall one translation of the manga where the nobles stated that the people who are lower ranked than them are living garbage who live as they do because they stupidly chose to be born and live as garbage. The same noble indicated that those who are nobles instead made the smart choice before they were born to be born to noble families and so deserve their positions due to their superior intelligence. A whole load of garbage of course, but those beliefs serve to have their children see those lower on the totem pole as not even human disregarding that the only reason anyone is in a position of power or powerlessness is because of chance. Those in noble families and those who are not in noble families could easily have had their positions reversed by that same chance. It does seem that those who learn to be better are often those who have personal interactions with those outside their rank and who gain perspective on their own.
13:04 “what is that?” 😂😂 my thoughts exactly when I seen his dad
If The theory that Luffy’s mother is a celestial dragon turns out to be true it would be interesting if the mother’s family name was Venus
Venus is the name of the sword wielding gorousei, while his family his ethanbaron, so this cant be the case anymore, altrough i would not put much faith in a Luffy's mother anyway.
@@sonofcronos7831 the comment you are replying to was made before the names were announced
I was not emotionally prepared to gaze upon the dragon duck.
All the emotions! We are not worthy of the dragon duck.
Yay!! The Otohime video is coming 😄 thank you. May be even the Jinbe video will come after
Dang I really like animal facts and I was sad when you decided not to do any turtle facts today. Bummer. Great video as always! Thanks Tekking!
We know dragons existed in the past and returned briefly for Punk Hazard. But I think there's more to that plot point. Will we see "perfect" dragons before the story ends? I wouldn't be surprised if Imu was some form or dragon. Though I'm leaning more towards Imu being a human controlled by some other supernatural entity
Dracula means son of dragon, or devil. Shanks and mihawk are good dragons or anti government dragons
SKYRIM REFERENCE
Matt is on fire with these uploads
These videos are always so packed with info I have to always wait to comment because tekking will prob mention what I’m commenting
I bet one of the policies of the gods knights system is that a punishment is "to apologise" because they're such spoiled brats that it would be very demeaning to them
i was a big buffy and angle fan. i loved that analogy
Great video especially if u just read the new chapter lol 🔥 def gotta follow
The goat has posted!!!🎉
Tekking: "Donquixote Mulesgard"
Also Tekking: "Saturn is definitely his family name"
Hey man! Have you considered releasing these in podcast form? Would love to have an audio only version to listen to while I drive and work
Vegapunk: You went to Mariejoa! Do you really want to be one of those ghastly, horrid people?!
When the world’s smartest man says you’re vile, you’re definitely vile.
7:40 We are not sure about the "Saturn" family, it can easily be a title. In fact, based on Japanese naming scheme, Jay would be the Family name and García (which is actually a family name) would be his first or middle name
It's Jaygarcia, just one word. You are correct, tho. That would be the family name, not Saturn. I also agree that it's likely a title, if the other Gorosei share the same naming scheme.
@@TheSeptet Actually, there's no way to know, it's written in katakana. I've seen it as jaygarcia, Jay Garcia and J. Garcia, for example. Claiming this or that spelling to be correct is just a waste. It can even be jega lucia, and it'd be the same kana
We need more people like Mjosgard. We need to see more of him.
I doubt that all of the Celestial Dragons are evil, glass d*ckheads. There had to be like....fewer that aren't horrible.
Also interesting fact, Mjosgard share the same Dub VA as Asta from Black Clover.
I hope the revolutionary’s don’t kill him
Also another interesting fact. Mjosgard shares the same birthday as Taylor Swift.
Well he was k1lled by the other world nobles so yeah.
@@sonofcronos7831 I heard...and I've already read the recent chapter.
......GOD!.....DAMN IT!
Even just clicking on this was hype, huge topic that no one is talking about
YES YESSS TEKINNNNNGGG TEEEEKKKIIINNNGGGGG. I missed you buddy its been a few days, given you have no idea who i am but in my brain we’re actually really close
Bro i love you so much, videos like this show why the one piece community is amazing
It's interesting how Kaido and Blackbeard essentially have the same dream of a pirate paradise.
Both of them see the world being in chaos as their idea of fun and a peaceful world as a boring one although the exact reasoning and image they have of the world is a little different.
13:12 Oda clear took some inspiration from Star Wars with that Celestial Hutt! XD
Omg, a baby Kaido
13:03 And I though Vegapunk's design was goofy 🤣
I would love to see a video on how Dragons revolution would work i doubt youtube would shut it down.
i hope Oda goes more in depth about the God knights. we know nothing about them so its all just guessing, but i would say if the Gorosei aren't immortal(which i dont think they are but obvs could be wrong) , then the new Gorosei would be promoted from the God knights since they seems to be like the celestial dragons police, and i doubt normal Celestials would be suited for Gorosei duties considering how delusional and spoiled they are
i love it when you show us soft toys
I was so excited when you said turtle facts and you just baited me
4:52 At least in absolute worst case scenario in Kaido's world I would die quickly.
It's gonna be funny if when Enel came down from the moon and hear about how "Godly" celestial dragon are and decide to blow up holy place because Enel God mode aint having it
Could there be a link to zoro's relative 'terra' and the celestial dragons more specifically going along with the potential planets theme referencing a terra family within the gorosei or imu itself
When the revolution happens, I think many Celestial Dragons will try to fight back, and die in the process. Those who surrender might simply be stripped of their status and all their stuff.
And then killed by a bunch of pissed off normies.
Ayy a new tekking101 video
i like the idea that there are a small group of 5-10 good hearted celestial dragons who are secretly leaking intels to the revolutionary
We need this video tekking. Please
Interesting. I always forget about good celestial dragons while one piecing
If Law was transformed into a dragon duck, would he still hate eating bread?
Idea for a future "What if" video on this channel. "What if Kaido never made his alliance with Orochi"?
9:52 I hope the bald Gorosei is Venus, I just think it'll be hilarious that the bald one is named after the goddess of love and beauty.
Tekking just looking off to the side reading‘favorite duck treats’
Something I haven’t seen around is what if the person shanks was talking about to the world government is vegapunk. It would explain why Saturn is going there himself
What does it take for a individual to change their mind, their heart or their ways.
Love a lot of love and a lot of care. Otohime gave everything she had even being that frail had enormous amount of courage to go right to the home of the celestial dragons to bring him safely home and she could have been caught right there and then but did it any way.
The hardest thing anyone can do is change someone for the better. Ask yourself can you forgive that one person in your life and make the effort do make them a good person no matter the heart break or in spit a heartbreak or betrayal?
Real courage right there and a lot of emotional strength.
13:00 looking at his father, makes sense why Myosgard would have a rat for a figure-head on his ship
As a Haïtian still living here and loves to know about our history well done Matt because the things the French did to our ancestors and what our ancestors did to the French in retaliation would make what Doffy did to Homing look like mercy killing and yes we are the only known slave rebellion to have succesfully overtaken their masters
That sir Is a turtle duck
I was very scared untill I realized you were just handling a common turtle duck, I was worried for a min there
When Dragon gets up to mariejois he is going to execute basically all of the celestial dragons their children included if history has anything to say about revolutions like this.
I wonder if Oda will introduce a Good Celestial Dragon who maybe like Homing went and end up living among the people was shown and first hand experienced the discrimination caused by the World Government and Celestial Dragons but survived and decided to change things for the better?
Would be interesting if there's one rogue celestial dragon that's part of the revolutionary army.
Can you make a video about how in the anime during marine Ford they match up every black beard pirate VS the Red Hair pirates. Maybe tie in the straw hats!!
When he says you know what it reminds me of @ 19:43 I really thought he was going to say " United State's History" but Ig my hopes were too high lol
00:42 I GOT CHILLSSSSS 😨😨😨
Hey can you do a video about pesche
Mr Morj has avideo talking on why Carlos is set up to be redeemed. :) (I don't know if it was uploaded on an April 1st of some time.)
im pretty sure oda was inspired by guevara when he made dragon. idk though i think i heard that somewhere..
Tekking, you really need to do a video on the One Piece Black Legend theory. There are so many parallels between the Void Century and the Black Legend, here are just 5:
- Ancient Kingdom was advanced and prosperous, just like the Hispanic Monarchy.
- The "D." is a name, just like Hispanics used to have the "D." name.
- The Void Century erases from history everything from that kingdom, just like the Black Legend (anti-Hispanic blood libels) did with the Hispanic Monarchy.
- The enemies of the Ancient Kingdom created that historiographic corruption, just like the enemies of the Hispanic people did.
- The Celestial Dragons committed horrible things against humanity during their hegemony, just like the protestantized Anglo-Saxons committed SLAVERY (slaves used to escape to Spain), GENOCIDE (Native Americans), and even created the Third World along its borders (1711's Proposal for Humbling Spain).
If this is true, then even the currency in One Piece is related to the Ancient Kingdom, and it would highlight the name which the people of Ohara uncovered.
I just re read the chapter 1060 so perfect timing
And I highly doubt fisher tiger did all that by himself he definitely had help Oda just didn’t show the full story yet
6:27 you know you're unimportant in one piece when even tekking doesn't remember your name
This video at the beginning, talking about Donquixote homing becoming a "god" to a human, made me realize Doflamingo is an evil Jesus parallel if you really think about it.
I believe her name is Donquixote Matriarch at least according to the wikis. It means powerful woman, fitting name for a female Celestial Dragon.
Let's gooooood
Bro I would love for a fan comic of dragons revolution seinen style
I believe a good Celestial Dragon is Shakky as I believe she is based off Greek Amazon empress Penthesilea who is noted to carry an axe in battle so I believe she was known in her pirate days as Silver Axe and she was the daughter of Ares/Mars so believe she is the daughter of the Gorosei that repersents Mars.
Amazon lily
That dont make sense. Oda bases his work in real life history and mythology, but never once he made everything the way it is in mythology. Shirahoshi, being Poseidon, would be the sister of Ju Peter, and this cannot be true. You should never be to literal with characters names and roles in one piece.
mjolsgards dad looks like a starwars easteregg, that could be jabba the hut with lea as the slave holding the wine
Anyone know if that rug is available anywhere?
Wonder when we'll see the Gorousei use their sailor powers
I just realized that if the Gorosei are all Celestial Dragons, then there has to be something (more) different about them because they're normal. All the other Celestial Dragons are at least some form of messed up inbreeding, so the Gorosei can't be the same "pure families".
No. All world nobles are part of the same 19 families, so they are all inbred after 800 years if you think about.
Oda likes to draw horrible characters with horrible faces. But this is clearly not the result of inbreeding. Rosward (Charlos father), Sharlia (Charlos sister) and Homing and his wife, are all normal looking. Even Charlos and Mjosgard are not as ugly as some other characters. The only worst one is Mjosgard father, that one is bizarre.
So the Gorousei are clearly not different from them.
For those who want to understand what Mjosgard must have felt when he realized just how evil the celestial dragons are, consider this.
A lot of the Catholic Saints had the realization of how horrible sin is and how even the small things we think of as "normal" are horrible in reality.
So imagine if you are an average person our world, and then you have an Illumination Of Conscience, and you realize that all the normal "bad" things we do as humans in our world are moral travesties.
Most of us could not accept such a thing as it goes against our common sense and our entire worldview.
If people discovered that sin is real and serious, how many of us could turn our lives around?
How many could not only repent but avoid falling back into our old way of thinking and living, especially when everyone around us lives in an evil way, and it is accepted and encouraged by society?
Mjosgard not only realized that he was a terrible person, but he had the strength to accept it and even the extraordinary strength to repent and reform himself.
He is kinda an amazing person to be able to regain and keep his humanity.
a fun fact i learned yesterday i share a birthday with mjosgard December 13th
an idea I have is what if Mjosgard would go to the auction house and bought slaves just to protect them from other celestial dragons and release them afterwards.
Holy shit I just saw a dragon duck and this one piece RUclipsr I watch was holding it.
I would love to see a dark ass video from tekking