Great video Brian, I remember you as a very young man mowing with a push mower, now look at you ! You've come a very long way and I'm impressed. Cool on you Bro !!
As far as pre- treating lots we haven’t found that to work in our area and none of the other companies do either. One thing we do is if it 20 degrees or lower we switch to treated salt to help it melt faster and be more effective
All of my customers get salted every time it snows, but none of them would approve of me pre-salting. My lots are always bare asphalt very quickly after a storm. If someone slips during the storm, that’s on them…. I’m in Canada tho, I hear the states is lawsuit crazy so maybe different there lol
I have quite a few stone driveways long ones that I get paid handsomely for. But I have a whole seperate sheet they have to sign explaining damage to driveway and stone in grass isn't my responsibility, also explaining that I do not salt stone, and that they acknowledge the dangers of not salting.. and lay out the dangers and liability of not salting and that it is the responsibility of the home owner to find a contractor that deals with antiskid and provide 4 contractors from small to massive that will service them for antiskid. Which none do except for extreme ice storms. I understand the acknowledgement form does not protect me fully but I know from experience judges certainly take things like that into consideration and kind of take it the way I spell it out, I gave them the ability to secure ice control, they chose not too.
Better look up the new slip and fall bill that passed in Michigan. Basically the poperty owner/contractor is liable. New bill favors heavy in person who sliped and fell
We know 100% about these legislation changes, so we've changed our contracts for commercial and residential agreements significantly. Good looking out!
Smart to frame your pricing this way to high dollar clients. They might be cheap initially but once they factor in what they could lose to slip and fall your prices become reasonable. Essentially you become an insurance salesman.
I have a small apartment building that I do and the owner doesn't want salt every time I plow because it “costs a lot per time” and only wants it salted when its needed. I salt every time but only charge him a when it “needs it” just because its worth the few dollars of salt it costs me to make sure its good. May not be the “best business choice” but its what ever. Lol I’m not really loosing money and is cheap insurance. I also have log books and front and rear cameras on the truck in case there is a issue.
@ fair enough if you can get those big commercial sites you can also ask to build on their property. That’s what we do with a Walmart a usps and any other sites that are a hour away but you are doing a killer job for your first year ! Love the channel man
I have quite a few stone driveways long ones that I get paid handsomely for. But I have a whole seperate sheet they have to sign explaining damage to driveway and stone in grass isn't my responsibility, also explaining that I do not salt stone, and that they acknowledge the dangers of not salting.. and lay out the dangers and liability of not salting and that it is the responsibility of the home owner to find a contractor that deals with antiskid and provide 4 contractors from small to massive that will service them for antiskid. Which none do except for extreme ice storms. I understand the acknowledgement form does not protect me fully but I know from experience judges certainly take things like that into consideration and kind of take it the way I spell it out, I gave them the ability to secure ice control, they chose not too. I do salt porches and walks and sand any walking areas that are not concrete or pavement.
You obviously know nothing about contracts and laws. Doesn't matter what the contract says, it boils down to "assuming the risk". Meaning, the person sees the snow or sleet, the court will say when you go outside you're "assuming the risks". You can't take someone to court for your own actions. So yes if you don't have a lawyer, it'll cost you until the judge dismisses the case and makes the victim pay for wasting everyone's time.
No doubt there will be a cost to defend, no one said that, genius. This gives you additional documentation and help if there IS a slip and fall. Just like why we track and record site visits, record site conditions, and take photos of every event. Thanks for stating the obvious, but being prepared and proactive is the best approach in this business.
Let me know what tips you guys can share for pre and post treating with salt events!
Art & Science! Well said
I Like the way You put that Risk / cost of treating,,, absolutely salt it and try to prevent a problem, Thank You from Connecticut
Glad to help! Prevention is key, especially when it comes to preventing potential lawsuits and damage from a bad winter.
Great video Brian, I remember you as a very young man mowing with a push mower, now look at you ! You've come a very long way and I'm impressed. Cool on you Bro !!
Thanks, you too! LOTS of work to still do, but slowly making progress :)
Great Video!!!!!!!
As far as pre- treating lots we haven’t found that to work in our area and none of the other companies do either. One thing we do is if it 20 degrees or lower we switch to treated salt to help it melt faster and be more effective
Spot on Brian, Thanks for the tips!
I just bought a VBX 6500 today 🥳
@@lawn-order that's awesome man. Congrats!
Enjoy watching and learning this since I cant do any of this where I'm at. Keep on keepin on homie.🤑
Oh and great liability advice as well.
Thanks man
good information
thank you
You're welcome, I hope it helps you out!
All of my customers get salted every time it snows, but none of them would approve of me pre-salting. My lots are always bare asphalt very quickly after a storm. If someone slips during the storm, that’s on them…. I’m in Canada tho, I hear the states is lawsuit crazy so maybe different there lol
I have quite a few stone driveways long ones that I get paid handsomely for. But I have a whole seperate sheet they have to sign explaining damage to driveway and stone in grass isn't my responsibility, also explaining that I do not salt stone, and that they acknowledge the dangers of not salting.. and lay out the dangers and liability of not salting and that it is the responsibility of the home owner to find a contractor that deals with antiskid and provide 4 contractors from small to massive that will service them for antiskid. Which none do except for extreme ice storms. I understand the acknowledgement form does not protect me fully but I know from experience judges certainly take things like that into consideration and kind of take it the way I spell it out, I gave them the ability to secure ice control, they chose not too.
We used sand at the casino I used to work maintenance for the parking lots and salt on the sidewalks. 😊
Same with me but salt is a last resort option. And if we have to salt the road/ parking lots we go to the city public works yard and get a load
Fukn awesome vid. Ty.m Bri
Good Luck Hope you guys crush it ! Watched your end of year Video with your Wife you guys seem like a Great Team Hope 2025 is good to you guys
Better look up the new slip and fall bill that passed in Michigan. Basically the poperty owner/contractor is liable. New bill favors heavy in person who sliped and fell
But still good to include in to your contract just to CYA
We know 100% about these legislation changes, so we've changed our contracts for commercial and residential agreements significantly. Good looking out!
Smart to frame your pricing this way to high dollar clients. They might be cheap initially but once they factor in what they could lose to slip and fall your prices become reasonable. Essentially you become an insurance salesman.
I have a small apartment building that I do and the owner doesn't want salt every time I plow because it “costs a lot per time” and only wants it salted when its needed. I salt every time but only charge him a when it “needs it” just because its worth the few dollars of salt it costs me to make sure its good. May not be the “best business choice” but its what ever. Lol I’m not really loosing money and is cheap insurance. I also have log books and front and rear cameras on the truck in case there is a issue.
Pricing? Right now I am doing it by the bag as don't have a good bulk place close. Where do I find the no salt waiver?
ChatGPT can make you one, or email me, I can send you the one we came up with.
Can you do new updated siteone vedoe for the spring
Sure! Anything you'd like to see?
Where can you get that contract? Did you say judge ebt?
Our forms are at www.LawntrepreneurAcademy.com/store if you'd like to check them out. Not sure what a judge-ebt is!
@@BriansLawnMaintenanceyou said ChatGPT I think lmao
No mention of temperatures?
The list can go on, temperatures (both air and ground temps) make a huge difference. Hence the dozen variables we could continue to list. Great add.
SALTING IS THE MONEY MAKER. Salt watch for 5 days after main salting
brian if you have the time this summer build yourself a salt shelter and pre buy your own salt!
I'd love to man. We just don't have the designated space for something like that the moment!
@ fair enough if you can get those big commercial sites you can also ask to build on their property. That’s what we do with a Walmart a usps and any other sites that are a hour away but you are doing a killer job for your first year ! Love the channel man
20 years doing salt, If you ever want to talk to gain information, reach out
Great thanks mate!
Will you put a logo on your truck soon?
What website is your merch to buy a hat?
We will be, yup! Very soon! Sorry no merch at the moment just a limited time run in December when we didn't.
I have quite a few stone driveways long ones that I get paid handsomely for. But I have a whole seperate sheet they have to sign explaining damage to driveway and stone in grass isn't my responsibility, also explaining that I do not salt stone, and that they acknowledge the dangers of not salting.. and lay out the dangers and liability of not salting and that it is the responsibility of the home owner to find a contractor that deals with antiskid and provide 4 contractors from small to massive that will service them for antiskid. Which none do except for extreme ice storms. I understand the acknowledgement form does not protect me fully but I know from experience judges certainly take things like that into consideration and kind of take it the way I spell it out, I gave them the ability to secure ice control, they chose not too. I do salt porches and walks and sand any walking areas that are not concrete or pavement.
Either way, I aint responsible if you fall no matter if I put salt down or not. It's your property tf kinda bs
I don’t care what your contract says. Your still going to be named in a lawsuit at some point. Even if you win, there is still a cost to defend.
You obviously know nothing about contracts and laws. Doesn't matter what the contract says, it boils down to "assuming the risk". Meaning, the person sees the snow or sleet, the court will say when you go outside you're "assuming the risks". You can't take someone to court for your own actions. So yes if you don't have a lawyer, it'll cost you until the judge dismisses the case and makes the victim pay for wasting everyone's time.
No doubt there will be a cost to defend, no one said that, genius. This gives you additional documentation and help if there IS a slip and fall. Just like why we track and record site visits, record site conditions, and take photos of every event. Thanks for stating the obvious, but being prepared and proactive is the best approach in this business.