QI | How To Get Away With Slander
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This clip is from QI XL Series J, Episode 12, 'Justice' with Stephen Fry, Alan Davies, Professor Brian Cox, Rhys Darby and Jason Manford. 
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The way Rhys and Jason both open their books for the heckle return is brilliant
I want to believe Jason will use that in stand-up one day! (I'll be looking out for it!)
Exquisite timing.
One of the standard ones, when a comedian is getting heckled, is to look at the guy and say "It's OK-I remember having _my_ first beer."
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE are you a bot or something? What’s with adding the date/time and video title to your comments? We know what video it is, we know when you wrote your comment. Just, why?
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE oh so you’re not a bot, you’re just insane. Got it…
"If I want any sh*t from you, I'll squeeze your head" I would love to use this someday 🤣
Rhys Darby looks like New Zealand's answer to Austin Powers.
yeah, it's not just here on QI either. I'm a kiwi and every time you see him on the telly he looks like a shit and slightly confused secret agent
Shag a Sheep baby
uncalled for, but okay
Except in NZ we say 'Yeah, nah, baby'
@@stevepritchard3970 Churr baby, churr! Do I make you Hori baby?
I love the perfect delivery of "So, eh...what, what else would they say?"
I adore Brian Cox! He can take such huge complex concepts in science and astronomy and explain them in a way that makes sense without talking down to his audience. Then you see him on QI and you realise how funny he is as well whilst still dispensing great nuggets of knowledge.
Totally agree with you and he has very nice eyes as well.
It’s a sign that someone understands something, rather than just recalls the text or words which explained the concept to them.
Brian's brilliant! I watch everything I can that he presents as I know I'm in for a treat.
He takes Billions and Billions of complex concepts and condenses them into teeny tiny particles to be absorbed into the human brain
My nuggets agree.
Kinda surprised Alan saying “my wife” didn’t get the klaxon
The klaxon is only for incorrect answers ;)
It’s actually not a klaxon, if I’m being a pedant. And I am. 🤣
@@hilljamie94 lmao well it’s more for obvious answers.
"have you been talking to my husband" is up there though
Think I’ve watched this XL episode at least fifty times. So many great facts, brilliant conversation points and memorable moments in this.
What series and episode number is it K B? I'd like to re-watch it. Cheers.
@@Shaun.Stephens QI Series J - Justice (XL Edition) 🙂
@@LeornianCyng Thanks.
@@Shaun.Stephens Is it really so hard to read the description, where they literally answer this question for you‽
@@DrWhoFanJ Thanks. I've never noticed that on these QI videos before.
These days you get away with slander by finding a random person on Twitter who is making the unsubstantiated accusation you would like to make, reporting on that "controversy" as if you are a neutral source, and repeating and amplifying those people until the accusation has gained a life of its own.
You've now given away the alt-right playbook. All that's left are their dog whistles that are so blatantly obvious (they have to be, right-wingers are too stupid for subtlety), everyone sees through them.
That's actually not the case (in UK law at least). Re-publishing a defamatory statement is still classed as defamation. So the journalist is just as liable as the person who wrote what was defamatory in the first place.
@@DrZaius3141 are you saying that there exists alt right accounts on twitter today?
Also, the "playbook" is called rules for radicals
@@DrZaius3141 great comment . now, for all those that are ' not ' of your political persuasion , just change it to (they have to be, left-wingers are too stupid for subtlety) and that covers the other half of the population:) you dont think that left and right are as stupid as each other? they are all humans.
Anonymous story to a no credit website. When they publish theres the source to quote.
There was a one legged comedian who used the sympathy card when he was heckled until he tried it at the Edinburgh festival. Someone in the audience from Glasgow stood up and said I speak for everyone here that we have nothing against your leg.
Spike Milligan's grave stone read: "Told you I was ill!". 🤣
Read? Or reads?
@@zapkvr Then (read) and now (reads, assuming it's still standing and present). Don't be picky. ;)
In Latin I believe, as the Church of England, weren't keen on the idea.
@@Tibbyrevolution Gaelic, not Latin
I'm assuming the headstone and epitaph are still there today so why use past tense?
It's not the case that in the U.S., malice is a requirement for defamation. The "actual malice" requirement only applies to public figures. When a public figure brings a libel suit, they must prove that the defendant made the injurious statement "with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." So I could spread rumors about Stephen Fry as long as I might reasonably have thought they were true, but Stephen Fry could not spread rumors about me without exposing himself to liability.
The biggest difference between the American and English defamation laws is that in the U.S., falsity is an element of defamation. This means the plaintiff must prove that the statement was false by preponderance of the evidence. In England, truth is an affirmative defense. This means the defendant must prove the statement was true.
In the U.S., this is a constitutional matter, so even though some state laws make truth an affirmative defense, the plaintiff still must prove falsity as part of their case. (Except when they don't, because courts make a lot of mistakes in defamation law.) In the U.K., this is just a matter of an act of parliament, so it could change at any time, and it differs between countries. I don't know much about Scottish defamation law, but it could be quite different.
So I just watched OFMD....
I laughed far too hard at the "if I want any shit from you I'll squeeze your head" remark
Whoa... the science guy gave lots of interesting trivias too! That was lovely!
“Actual Malice”, as used in US defamation law, isn’t about intent, but about knowledge. If the person alleging defamation is a public figure, they have to prove that the person making the statements knew that they were false.
In the US, we also have a much narrower definition of what would constitute a falsehood. Most things that are seen as potentially defamatory in the UK would be considered opinion in the US and therefore protected.
He said absence of malice
@@Callum6160 But he made a mistake. The term of art is "actual malice." The precise definition given in _New York Times Co. v. Sullivan_ was "with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." It only applies to public figures like politicians or celebrities.
This video is only a fragment of the conversation, in the actual episode they do go into these details some more ^^
I learned this from a running gag on the Sidney Weltmer episode of Citation Needed
Description is wrong, says Sandi, but this is Stephen 😋
Let's keep this between us before everyone else comes along...
don't worry guys, we haven't seen anything ;)
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE Where did you pick up this annoying habit of adding the title, time and date stamp to every reply? Nobody cares that you wrote it at 1844pm. And “pm” is a given if its 1844, anyway!
@JONATHAN SUTCLIFFE I certainly don’t follow you around stores or web sites, but if we both watch the same channel We are bound to read the same comments. Why, oh why would someone want to copy and paste one of your posts? Seems I’m not the only one to question your bad and fruitless habit; this morning someone else questioned one of your anti-copy and paste posts! Seriously, have you ever had one of your comments posted as a response to a video that you know you didn’t write? How would someone go about that? If they c & p one of yours, it would still be under their name. Good Day, Sir.
Surely the answer to the original question is "The Blue Whale".
Brian and Alan must be one of the most contrasting teams they've had
Actual malice is the term in American law and it effectively means knowing falsity, but that is a higher standard which only applies to public figures. For Joe Schmoe, average private person, if defamed on the evening news is able to sue without meeting that higher standard.
In 1917, the critic Heywood Broun reviewed a banned play called "The Awakening of Spring" and gave a blistering review of it and its star, Geoffrey Stein. Broun wrote in part, "It was easily the worst performance we have ever seen on any stage. Geoffrey Stein gave a ludicrously inadequate performance in the important role of Melchior." Stein sued Broun for libel but lost.
Some time later Broun had to review another play with Stein in the cast. Broun's lawyer advised him to be tactful, because Stein could sue again for a bad review but this time could claim malice on Broun's part as retaliation for Stein's earlier suit.
So Broun wrote of Stein's latest performance, "He was not up to his usual standard". 😮😁
Can you imagine the meeting before going to tape: Alan, I hope you don't mind but we're going to do a prolonged p1sstake about the small size of your manhood.
C'mon-we're all adults here. No need to use the euphemism "manhood" when the correct medical term is available. So call it a "wang".
@@almostfm *wang-doodle* in mixed company please!! 😂
The actual piece in the episode was _even longer_ - other examples of defences of defamation, that is, not Alan's penis. 😳🍆
“My wife” 😭😭
I like it when Brian Cox explains things. Things can only get better and easier to understand.
You see what i did there?
rhys is so cute with that hair omg
Slander is speech, libel is written
The wise words of J.J. Jameson
YOU MISSED THE FINAL SCENES THAT EXPAND THE LEVELS OF SLANDER IN FULL D:
THIS PARTICULAR SCENE IS GODLY AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT FOR AGES AND I WAS REALLY SUPER EXCITED BECAUSE ITS VERY INFORMATIVE
PLEASE UPLOAD WITH THE REST PLEASE
I have waited years for this Clío to be on youtube
Important to remember: "if I wanted shit from you I'd squeeze your head" can't be libel, as explicit language can't be libellous - the idea being that it can't be assumed to be true if it's rude.
It's only slander if it isn't true...
Brian Cox is probably the smartest person on that dais.
Anyone else wait right til the very end to see if one of the elves opened the laptop again?
I loved the sound too, I’m an ‘earphones’ listener and it was really effective!
No. It’s the end and I have comments to read in peace.
@@samiam619 Lucky for you I was here
Work for The Sun and have relative as judge?
Remeber that time this worked the other way when Hulk Hogan was getting in trouble for something and he made a point that he wasn't Hulk Hogan because that's a character, and part of his defence was that Hulk Hogan says he has a huge member where as Terry Bella (Hulk Hogan's real name) actually has a small penis.. I can't remember if his defence worked or not but funny tactic for sure.
Power Without Glory.
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Bullshit. The poor don't invest. And the rich don't pay tax
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It's nice to hear people discuss about investment, because investment always beat cash..
I understand the fact that tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, but investing today is a hard thing to do because I have no idea of how and where to invest in?.
as a newbie investing in crypto will be best for you, I know of a portfolio/investment manager, Mr Chris James and expertist in trade investment as you don't have to under go any stress in the trades, he manages my trading..
Now if you were to say Brian Cox has a very small 🐓...🤣
Alan looks like Alex Harvey.
You mean there's somebody called Alex Harvey who looks like Alan Davies? Well who knew? And, frankly, who cares.
@@rosiefay7283 Alex Harvey was a British rock star in the '60s & '70s recognized by his long curly brown hair and signature white and black striped shirts. Alan's look in this video could easily be used as an Alex Harvey fancy dress/costume.
Gosh miss the old days
How nobody said ‘absence of phallis’ I don’t know .
Just whn you thought QI couldn't get more wacky..... oh sorry, that was covered in episodes S & M.
If something is provably true then it is not slander/libel. That's not a "defence" that just fact.
I do appreciate what you've done with the outro. Nothing against Sandi, just the repetition was a real buzzkill. Next time record like 10 different ones to mix it up?
Parliamentary privilege is such a crock in a lot of (not all) cases. We should be demanding more of our MPs, not less.
In the case of defamation or libel you want parlimentary privelege because otherwise they'd sue each other any time they got called out for doing the wrong thing.
"Corrupt you say? Well I'll see you in court!"
Often it can be difficult to prove these things when its relevant (like right before an election) but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be mentioned.
Like most kinds of privellege its a double edged sword and needs to be kept in check. If someone was to abuse the privellege by making things up all the time, your only option would be to vote them out.
In reality all it seems to do is encourage mud slinging and name calling, but at very least that makes debates more entertaining.
Rhys Darby is so bloody prim in this I thought he was a professor.
Like how someone finally turns that final screen over before Sandi gets impatient with us for not picking another video after having finished watching present one.......I used to feel that that somewhat disrespectful to the viewer.
Fox News in general and Tucker Carlson in particular have successfully gone to court with the "I'm just kidding" defense saying that no one should take them seriously.
And Alex Jones. Ugh.
Carlson's just using the defense successfully pioneered by Rachael Maddow.
@@Regolith86 - Yeah, not really.
@@Regolith86 we don’t care what Faux news says, tRump lost, get over it snowflake…
@@samiam619 I don't particularly care what Fox News says either, but you may want to check the mote in your eye.
Brian Cox is Manchester's Keanu Reeves
This is like when hulk hogan was able to say that he was bigger than hulk hogan because it was classed as being two separate characters
2:30 so that's what Hugh Jackman's been up to
If it is written, wouldn't that be libel instead of slander?
In the days of censorship sex matters could not be mentioned in fictions.
Adultery was commonly cited as the reason given to in court to justify a divorce. Full details, whether true or not, had to to given to the Judge before a Decree nisi was approved to dissolve the marriage.
The newspapers could and did report all the scandalous sexy goings on of the accused party/defendant.
Their pages were full of these details which would not have been allowed in a novel.
0:01 someone who is hung like a doughnut
MURRAY!
I'm so pleased the outro has been changed from Sandi berating me. I got quite annoyed by that.
We all live in the Land of Defamation now.
Hopefully I can use this against J.K. Rowling so she can't set her army of lawyers on me.
What, you're going to write a novel mentioning an M.N. Bowling who writes books about a logician called Larry Rotter, and say that she has a small penis? I think thre's a flaw in this plan.
@beeble2003 actually in the case of j.k. Rowling in particular I think she'd be extremely offended if someone claimed she had a small penis
That is libel not slander. Libel is written, slander is spoken.
This is like arguing the difference between Magma and Lava. It's semantics. They're the same thing.
Defamation: You have upset me, now give me your house.
I don't think you can sue someone for defamation without proving damages. Eg: People stop shopping at your store because they don't want to 'support' a business run by an accused monster.
Slander is a public lie designed to harm someone. That’s nothing like writing a book and having a character similar to someone real.
I must remember that one. There's a few people I know who could have their heads squeezed to produce some proverbial! 💩💩💩
What's Austin Powers doing on qi?
Well if u you have not much money, then you can say what ever you want.
Just noticed that the old end card of Sandi, annoyed people so much it made the BBC product place.
Whoever rebukes a person will in the end gain favour
rather than one who has a flattering tongue. Proverbs 28:23
Who ever remains stiff necked after many rebukes
will suddenly be destroyed without remedy Proverbs 29:1
No-one gives a fuck about Bible quotes.
- Romans 23:14
I appreciate these Bible quotes: as my father (whom I love) and wicked stepmother are extreme Trump supporters, they are also extremely “religious,” thus, these quotes from Proverbs should come in very handy for me as I rebuke their orange, returned savior.
@KlaxonCow, I appreciate your knowledge of the Bible to know Romans does not have a Chapter 23; and, that Bible (in this instance) is correctly, and politely capitalized.
Laughed till I stopped
As I flopped at commitment.
The misery wasn't wasted so empathy of a sort has been caught though I fall short still
But Calvary's Hill was were the debt was paid!
This once called zero, is unlike Nero, I used to fiddle,
Now the riddle has a solution.
Forgiven and redeemed that's a theme for this has bean
I'm glad to know
He's reality is immortality!
By grace through faith in the race!
Britain has crappy speech laws. Insulting someone's manhood isn't slander. Y'all kowtow to tho powerful.
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