Noctua NF A12x25 Fan Review
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For the tight tolerances of the fan blades to the shroud Noctua had to develop their own plastic. The standard plastic they used to use would actually stretch over time due to centrifugal force and with tight tolerances this would mean the blades would impact the shroud. Gotta love how they over engineer everything!
Are you sure they didn't just use another plastic that everyone can get? How does it differ from available plastics?
Maybe it's just marketing mumbo jumbo, I remember watching Logan in the Noctua booth at Computex 2017 with a rep named Jacob. The compound is called Sterrox and it's a liquid crystal polymer (LCP) similar to kevlar.
From Noctua's website:
"Sterrox® is Noctua’s own customised type of fibre-glass reinforced LCP that has been specifically fine-tuned for use in next-generation fan designs such as the NF-A12x25. Its extreme tensile strength, exceptionally low thermal expansion coefficient, high environmental inertia and excellent dimensional stability have made it possible to reduce impeller creep phenomena to levels that were previously unthinkable with PBT- or PA-based impellers."
noctua.at/en/nf-a12x25-technical-backgrounds
I've been buying Noctua fans on ebay as and when people sell them - my system isn't under heavy load very much, so doing it in stages works fine for me.
Definitely worth the money, the noise/air flow is unmatched in my experience, even the 2 80mm ones I fitted on my Air 240 case in my previous build were quiet and shifted lots of air.
12 minutes of Wendell talking about brown fans... why am I excited about this?!?!?!
I can't blame you it's noctua fan
they do..have other colours now. years before, you REALLY needed to be a fan of puss&blood
Because they are noctua fans, and noctua makes beige and brown sexy.
YOU'RE EXCITED?! FEEL THESE NIPPLES!!
Because brilliant "old guys " still curb stomp young hipster reviews.
Dude is just a badass.
Thanks for all the great info on the new Noctuas! Their fans are worth every penny. I have 6 year old NF-P12-1300 fans in my rig that are just as quiet as the day I bought them. It’s worth the money for the piece of mind and peace and quiet. If you build with high quality components you can keep the rig longer and it pays in the end.
Noctua all the things! I even switched out the fans in Seasonic PSUs for Noctua. They are so much quieter and they STAY quiet even over the years.
i do, this is my build - pcpartpicker.com/b/TKkdnQ I overkilled with the seasonic power rating so the fan never comes on and no loss of warranty (in unlikely chance thats required)
@@fredfinks Sick build, man. My R4 can't fit them in the front. I used some duct tape. Until I get a new case.
@@DrBreezeAir Nothing wrong with using tape! That build is still my current one (apart from GPU and HDDs upgraded), whenever i get round to upgrading maybe raptor lake, ill get an R7 case. The fractal cases are the best. Only probl with the R6 is with the HDDs & optical drive, you need to have the vertical bracket in, and with a huge GPU , theres only a tiny bit of clearance with the 8 pin power connectors. The R7 can be fully opened up with massive GPU space/length (even with HDDs & optical). Im considering going the full R7 tower , even if dont need it now, jsut on case there any future ridiculous massive thing we need to put in there. (over the years ive had to upgrade/ get rid of otherwise perfectly fine cases as GPU sizes increase. Cheers
Is that a Noctua fan in your case, or are you just happy to see me?
Thanks for the great review Wendell. I've been wondering about this new fan, it's a little expensive, so I've been waiting for a review that I can trust.
As always, much love to my tech homies in Kentucky!
Colored Noctua fans!? Science has gone too far!
What's next? RGB Noctua fans??? Pure heresy.
they have chromax NF-F12 fans so its possible but it will take them a while to get rid of all the brown inventory before they start with the black ones
I'm glad some companies don't cut corners, don't go for the cheap and just deliver quality. It's so absent in our 'throw-away' society. Have two NF-F12's and a NH-U9S, none of them exhibit any bearing-grind after years of service. The rubber mounts also don't break after 6 months, they remain their elasticity for years atleast.
They have a 6 year warranty - it's great. I too have a U9S, with a second NF-A9 PWM, to go with my 3 intake and 3 exhaust NF-F12 iPPC 3000s. Though I regret going for 3000 and not 2000 as above 1500 they do start to get noisy, so it would make fan control _easier_, but they're PWM and I don't really run them above 1350 RPM anyway, so it doesn't matter - I bought them because they were black, and then got some white chromax corners after they were released.
All my noctua fans are great, except the NF-F12...
Twice a bearing problem, that caused vibrations.
But the service is great, contact them, show them the problem with pictures and destroy the old fan and you get a new one, awesome!
I can assure you that Noctua has a healthy margin on those fans
I use a couple of these on a 360mm radiator connected directly to 12v (from PSU). I can't hear them running, but I can feel the airflow which is impressive for such quiet fans. The 3rd fan is a Noctua industrial iPPC-3000 connected to a fan controller (knobs in a PCI slot). I turn it up when I play games, but down as low as possible when I'm not. There's also a 240mm rad with two more industrials blowing out the bottom that do a great job of keeping dust from settling on the glass table it's on. If these new fans weren't so expensive, I'd get 3 more of them. Just too expensive.
Not to shill my channel (because I'm not making any money) but I messaged Noctua looking for one of their older coolers for a Retro PC build I was doing (socket 478, I know, I know, its crap shhh :P) and they were great, friendly, helpful, kind, and informative. I already own 3x 140mm IndustrialPPC 3000RPM PWM's, 1x Redux 140mm 1500RPM, and the two that are on my NH-D15... like, they are pricey, and their normal brown colors are fugly, but holy hell are they good. Solid build quality, excellent warranties, and just made by a group that cares about performance, and achieving it, than frills and gimmicks. They have their options to 'change' the colors, and they have non-IPPC black fans now, but, I honestly can affirm, that unless they change something, I'll never go with anything else. Ever.
I just like that they don't really give a shit about trends, they do things they want to do and they do it their way. RGB? No thx. CLC? Nope, we're good with air (although I would not blame them if they did a liquid cooler, but I'd expect them to do it their way not just buy asetek pump and rad and stick their fans on it). They care about noise and performance, that's what sells those fans, they don't need to chase trends.
Also, I see why people consider the colors ugly, but when I see a fan in that color combination I know right away what brand it is. Can't really say that about any other brand.
Noctua makes some of the best if not the best fans available.
Personally I do not care about aesthetics, thus the Noctua colours do not bother me at all. I also really dislike the recent trend of RGB and full glass panels on cases. I have no interest in making my PC light up and showing it off all blinged out.
For this reason I like the Fractal Define series and the Phanteks Enthoo Pro, both non window variants.
We got Noctua AIOs now...collaboration with Asus
GET OUT OF THIS TOWN! Are you serious :O :O :O O::O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I generally agree with you; however, my interaction with their customer support was very limited. I had to do a return through Amazon and wasn't able to contact Noctua. The problem got resolved; however, I would've liked to talk to Noctua about it.
I think it's not just about sound power, noctua fans produces a pleasant audio signature as well
But of all noctua fans, which has the best timbre?
I am a plebian looking at possibly a B450 motherboard with a 2400G processor but I love learning about these things even if I can't afford them.
Much love,
xx
Id been waiting for these Noctua's for a long time and eventually caved and bought something else. That Something else, was an Enermax LiqTech 240, for my TR1900x, and yes over 5 months the ramping up and down of fans from lovely and quiet to monstro sounds. Recently I changed to the Enermax TR280 and added two Cougar 140 PWM fans in a push-pull configuration, and the noise level under load (like heavy, for work, load), the temp level dropped by 12c and the noise level never gets above anothing noticeable on my open/ish table case. My case btw was inspired by something I saw on Level1Techs review of a Professional Vega card, and the system you had was literally a plywood bench with Hairpin legs. There were some comments on that video about that 'case' also. I liked it so much I came up with my own variant of that.
I love my Noctua fans. You might say I'm a... "Fanboy"
haha
yeah and I like the color design, most people hate the "poop" brown.
Everybody I showed my PC recognized that these are noctua Fans, great company!
Sir I will Not
69 Likes. What a mad lad
Love their products. Still, have a Noctua NH-D14 from 2009 whisper quiet.
140 to 120mm cute, 200mm fans is where the air is at in a HAF-X.
I have the same setup as you describe in my 2012 build. Last week I upgraded it to a Ryzen 2700X system. The NH-D14 would not work (which I knew about prior to ordering parts) on the new CPU so I decided to use the Wraith Prism cooler initially to see how efficient it was but it is quite noisy compared to the NH-D14. I checked the Noctua website and they had an AM4 backplate kit available and are shipping it to me at no cost. Now that is customer service and I can't wait to install it!
wobbly sauce I still got my noctua nh-d14 :)
I'm still using NH-D14 too since 2011. Cooling an i5-2500K @ 4.8Ghz at lowest fan speed with no sweat. oh ambient temp is 32c coz I live in Asia ;) super worth the purchase.
still have the NH-D14 as well and it's in a HAF-X too. also I'm guessing the new version is the nh-d15 I gotta see how they compare.
My older noctua 140s all started dropping blades after a few years,.8 years later they are all gone. The 120s and newer 140s are all going strong though.
Should I buy Noctua fans? I'm having issues with the loud noise that my computer cheap fans makes.
Insufficient data.
Unlimited budget? Then yes. How cheap is this fan? ~$5? You could get away with any decent fan, EK vardar, corsair, cooler master, fractal - if all you care about is noise of a case fan.
Are you using a stock CPU cooler? If not, maybe upgrade the fan on that to a noctua.
Does your case have an intake and exhaust fan? Luke from LinusTech on a Workshop video where he found tnat 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan are the optimal use of money and performance. Then there's your intake (assuming you have 1) - if it's a closed front with side intake like a fractal R5, does it have about an inch in front of the fan for the air to rotate 90 degrees like the fractal, or is it just suffocating it? Gamers Nexus found that as long as there's about an inch, you only lose ~30 % pressure that way.
I'm going to stop suggesting things now.
Heya Wendell, I've been running a 690 for a couple years now and I'm in the Caribbean. Been experiencing some higher temps recently and I've not been able to find a definitive answer to a question I've had for a while: which way does the air move through the front of the card? If you see this please let me know!
I'm also considering replacing pads and paste on the cooler but I'm terrified of screwing it up. I'd love a 690 teardown tutorial for that!
Is the heatsink clogged with dust? It might nit be a bad idea to get a can of compressed air.
If you do take the heatsink off (replacing the paste is a good idea), keep the pads - they're a specific height designed for that specific cooler (or perhaps more likely the cooler was designed for that thickness of pads), so I wouldn't bother replacing them. Though you raise a good point - I know thermal paste ages, but I would imagine due to the nature of pads not being a liquid / paste, I wouldn't expect them to degrade over time...
Gregregorovich I bought a datavac about a year or so after I bought the 690 and I've been dusting it fairly regularly since. In the last few months it's been even more often than usual.
I've also swapped around the direction of the fans I have focused on it between various orientations of feeding/extracting air.
Couple forum posts I've come across in my search also say differ in opinion between using 0.5mm and 1mm thick pads. Very mysterious card apparently.
Do you have positive case pressure and fan filters? Magnetic filters are the best - DEMCiflex make some really nice ones, though they can be rather pricey.
About your ThreadRipper 1950x overclock, is it now also suffering from the sleep bug under windows?
After overclocking my ThreadRipper to 4.1Ghz, my clock in Windows is off after resuming from sleep.
What's your overclock voltage? I've got a 1950X and I gave up on overclocking it. I can't get it prime95 stable unless I run my fans pretty loud, and the highest stable overclock I got was 3.8GHz! Then again I've got 8 overclocked sticks of RAM and my motherboard only has on 8 pin power connector and one 4 pin power connector for the CPU, instead of the recommended two 8 pin connectors. The noise was so annoying that I decided to remove the overclock and just run the fans with the motherboard's "Quiet" fan curve. I'm also using a TR4 360 with 3 PWM A12x25 fans.
I used to hate the colors, grew to like it over the years, recently painted my house in the same scheme XD
These fans are great indeed, I also used them to replace those fans on my enermax 360 aio, the stock ones gave up on me in a couple months (the bearings gave up, making them rattle like a coffee grinder at higher speeds). At first I used the older pressure optimized noctuas, which were a lot better than the stock ones. However, once these launched, I got a couple of them and they preform way better. Everything stays quiet and cool. I also installed some on my GTR 360 rad that cools my 2 vega 64 cards and it preforms really well. At around 1600 rmp I can just about hear them, but they cool around 600w at 55 degree water out temp, not perfect, but way better than stock. Once you speed these fans up they can easily cool the full 700+ watts these cards can produce with the water staying below 50C (around 25-30 degree ambient). Really recommend them and I would love to find an excuse to buy more, but they just won't fit in my case (pc-o11 dynamic). Time for external rads I guess.
I like the two-tone grey ... It should look nice with that build scheme. NICE!
Love Noctua fans, every fan in my case (other than the GPU) is a noctua product. Love it
i love noctua fans, literally every fan in my pc is from noctua (5 industrial and 2 redux), the industrial can get quite loud but they move a ton of air, they are expensive but they are the best fans i have ever tried.
I bought my fans and cooler a couple of years ago, still working strong and personally, the cost wasn't too much to pay for a long term investment - Industrial I often run at around 1/3 of the speed of other fans and they still move a lot of air maintaining some level of quietness. As long as the fan profiles are adjusted accordingly of course :)
hows the overall performance running various applications, i liked some of the video, but was left with nothing but questions about the product before i turn over any money????, whats the CFM rating, how much voltage do you need to cool things down when running for example a intensive benchmark......hows does it handle when both the cpu and video card are pushing a bit of heat or the raditor if thats the case. I dont think a fan review combined with liquid cooling is a easy to gauge idea of how good the fan is, just a thought....
I kinda like the color clash myself..
what exactly does a low noise adapter do?
im not sure what the point is of one if all it does is turn down the rpm because you can also just do that by adjusting the fan curve
+meowow
It shifts the rpm range down a bit.
And that *does* matter as not all motherboards can go all that low.
Also, not sure, but I think there's a limit to how big a range of speeds you can transfer through rpm.
If that's the case then you can potentially achieve lower speeds with that thing then what you can with the motherboard before the fan stops spinning.
It's a resistor that drops the 12v down. The low noise are 9v and the ultra low noise are 5v if I remember right.
It lowers the voltage - it's just a resistor on the power line. As such it limits the amount of power it can draw, the same way 3-pin fans are controlled, but just at a constant level.
Lowers the voltage as others have said, but to add to It a bit, theirs a certain threshold with how their motors are designed that at certain voltage it wouldn’t spin and well boards control fans either through pulse with modulation. The problem with pwm or voltage controls is sometimes it isn’t the cleanest of signals and the fans may not respond at x lower voltage unless a resistor is used because it’s not properly distributed to the coils in the motor itself. These cables step down and help distribute the voltage more evenly to the coils themselves due to it being a analog signal (the resistor) vs a digitally controlled one (your fan header or etc) .
Also, it doesn't lower the minimum RPM if I understand it correctly - it just lowers the maximum RPM. (Well, unless it works at eg 10 % with it attached and not, and not at 5 % either with or without, and the software you're using only works in increments of 5 %)
About 3 years ago, we replaced a few dozens computer for our offices, mostly accounting and administrative computers, and we decided not to buy prebuilt as usual because we wanted ssd and dell didn't carry what we wanted at the time, so we bought everything, and assembled them ourselves. We replaced all CPU and case fans with noctuas. I ordered literally a half pallet of them.
Nicolas Innocent Where do you work, that actually does things right? Most places I've worked seem to start with a spec list that barely covers their needs, then picks an option that doesn't even fully satisfy that. Bonus points if they put in extra effort to cobble together some "custom" solution which saves a miniscule amount of money on the estimate, then costs more in the first month due to downtime from poor integration and "first adopter" woes. Am I ranting? Uh... Engagement!
Automotive parts company. Yeah, Accounting was not happy about 'those useless added costs', so I gave them the first units, then they stopped bothering me when they realized maybe the IT Senior Manager knew more about computer than they did. They no longer bother me.
Does optane make a difference in a typical Javascript/Webpack build compared to an ssd?
Have you tried Cougar fans? I have Cougar PWM fans in both of my machines and they are ultra quiet...
Am i the only one that loves the original noctua colours ?
Also i did think i was the only one crazy enough to have a TR vega64 workstation
I also love Noctua's colors. Though it is definitely an acquired taste. But ten years of using the things in every computer I've built (and a few 3D printers) has made me love seeing that signature brown.
Just an FYI for Noctua fans: Noctua say on Twitter that they're working on a 140mm version of the NF A12x25, as well as other colour options for release in 2019. Also, at Computex 2018, Noctua will showcase a Chromax version of the U14S, for release in Q4 2018.
So Wendell what about temperatures? Before and after?
Now for my fx83xx(AM3+) CPU fan. (stock heatsink) It just makes a lot of noise.
Both of my 10 year old Athlon64 x2(AM2) CPU fans are silent at idle speeds and they barely need to ramp up even at full load during a long compile.
For the curious, yes I pull the cpu fans every year or two to deep clean the dust from the fins and heat sinks.
Will you be upgrading this to 2950x later this year?
00:41 Is that a GTX 690 I spot up ontop of the case?
Edit: oh, you mentioned it
As much as I like your content, I'd have liked to see some numbers, perhaps comparing to an NF-F12 iPPC 2000 (RPM for RPM), for temps - and 3 of each type (unless it doesn't matter at max RPM for CFM...). Also, you didn't explain what makes the low noise variant of the A12 low noise - is it the same as the regular A12, just with a lower max RPM? I wouldn't mind a follow-up... : )
Looking forward to that Thunderbolt vid : )
I have been using their CPU coolers for ages now (I am an old fart, I do not trust this newfangled water cooling stuff), and I could not be happier. Super quiet fans and great performance. Yes, their stuff is more expensive, but I am happy to pay a couple Euros more for less noise, especially since their stuff also easily lasts until the next system upgrade without having to replace any fans etc.
Buying budget hardware and adding nactura fans is a good idea to give great cooling with low noise.
suggestion: mount the enermax fans alongside the noctuas for a push-pull set up for added cooling versatility.
If your motherboard only has three pmw spots and have five pmw fans what do I do? Is it safe to use a splitter? Will the control over the fans still work?
Modern Splitter works just fine
Yes, though the PWM readout is only from 1 of tbe 2 fans - you can't see what speed both of them are spinning at... unless you were to get some kind of expensive aftermarket fan control system, like a corsair commander, but then you have to deal with their software.
Not just to plug my channel, but I would say you should use it on push since if you see my review the fans works better on push than pull by a lot.
When I did my build, I replace all fans with noctua. Current have 3 case fans, then a push-pull radiator (4 fans). I mean, it sure does cool my system great, and on idle, it's basically silent, but it does get noisy during heavy load.
Noise-wise, the Dell Precision 7730 I use is louder than that O11...but way guieter than the Fortigate sitting 5m away
Finally. If this were released a few years ago, people would be going crazy
Any chance you can give dB numbers old to new?
Will these be made in 140mm version?
Nicolaj H might be a while. The difficulty in making these was that they had to make tight tolerances while accounting for expansion. It may not look like much, but I imagine just making it a bit bigger may be problematic
They'll be at Computex... (source: noctua.at 's press releases page), but they're also working on some slim (10 or 15mm, can't remember) 60, 70, and 80mm fans unless they've stopped doing so...
It will not be soon, but they have said that they are working on a 140mm version that will out perform other brands 140s (like how this one outperforms many 120mm fans)
Noctua responded to me on Amazon, "hopefully by end of 2019." Sterrox 140mm.
I've always loved the Noctua fans, even despite the price premium.
Strangely though, these look a lot like my other favourite 120mm fans, the discontinued Gentle Typhoon series from nidec servo.
Am I crazy? Anyone else pick up on this?
Is that a pot plant at 1:45?
I slowed the playback down in half, might be hippy lettuce...he sure sounds baked at .5 playback speed lmao!
How do they compare to Gentle Typhoons? That's the real question.
I have three of those fans in my pc-o11 dynamic aswell, they're awesome.
Dope fans!
Any chance of a nvidia+freesync setup tutorial in the future?
I'd say that not only such fans are good for someone who "already spends $$$ on a build", but rather for anyone who wants quiet and peace while working or gaming. I've had enough of fan noise, and even then I understood that it annoys me and affects my mood, but now that I have a new quiet PC... I realize just HOW much of an issue fan noise (and any noise in fact) really is for someone who spends days working with a PC.
I have converted a 3RU server in my home FreeNAS server, managed to make it silent after spending around 80€on Noctua fans.
What is the difference between this and the F12?
finally, you are in front ! we can see you GJ
(Most of) Noctua's PWM fans run down to around 200 RPM in my experience.
Also the LNA's are just a resistor's on the +12V rail. - You can make your own, just measure them or just pull off the silicone impregnated fiberglass sleeve and read the resistors color code.
IMO do one or the other unless your board doesn't let you lower the PWM frequency enough.
Also the Redux line are much, much older models that Noctua repurposed as their "budget" line by just changing the color scheme.
wonder if you push pull shittier fans if you could get lower rpm and quieter
ya...so I got a ryzen 5 for my NAS, and I used Noctua fans, but I still don't think it's overkill if you consider how quiet it is 😆
You can overcome the fan-blade-tip backpressure with heavy drawing paper made into a narrow shroud.
You are just fanning the flames
Request : Will there ever be a "Level 1 Devs" channel where you can share your programming knowledge with the world?
Hope you're subbed to the Linux channel we just did a thing on making memcpy faster :D
>Cmatrix in background
>Not cowsay
no neofetch :thinking:
Now make it in grey or black please. Ok cool spoke to soon glad they come in grey
The colour is good!
They make 140mm variants yet?
I actually bought 3 NF-A12x25 PWM for a ryzen 5 build :)
Hello!can i use it to cool the system unit?
A lot of people are mad about Apple for thunderbolt when in actuality it’s intel’s technology, originally called LightPeak
I bought a Crosshair VI Hero shortly after the Ryzen release. I had nothing but trouble with fan control from the beginning, and it didn't go away with BIOS updates. It was annoying to hear them at 100%.. but infuriating to see them not spinning at all, and leading to thermal shutdown. Was happening too often, so I just bout\ght a fan controller (4 knobs in the PCI slot.) I have some of these new Noctua fans connected straight to the 12v MOLEX (as I mentioned in my last comment).. So I don't have to trust the fan controller either.
I actually did buy a 3 pack for 90 bucks... for my open loop.. with a ryzen 2600 and an rtx 2080. I THINK i need to upgrade my cpu some time.
GREAT JOB I WAS HOPING YOU'D TOUCH THUNDERBOLT ON THREADRIPPER
Finally, someone is does a review about this now fans
I replaced the fans that came with my Corsair h110i AIO cooler with Noctua fans and had the same SUDDEN QUIET experience, so I'm a strong supporter of Noctua's fans for the foreseeable future. SO much quieter. No difference in cooling effectiveness, certainly no decline. You get what you pay for, once again.
the center hub on the fan is getting bigger with each model revision or is it just me!?
I built a ryzen 5 with an rx570 and used Noctua fans and a cooler because I like cool and quite.
My GPU runs these, so I bought some for the case. Seemed like the right thing to do.
Cant wait for the nf-a12x25 to come out in black on Q1 2019 we are close enough I am waiting for that or I'd jump on one for my CPU cooler
I'll be buying piles of these once they come out with Chromax editions of them lol. They're really good fans, but I can't stand the brown in my personal rig.
So this is what videogamedunkey's stunt double does in his free time
Static pressure optimized! Reminds of the sickle flow from cooler master.
I like the two tone grey...
I really hope they'll release a 140mm version of this fan at some point. 'cause their 140mm fans are _good,_ but not great.
Noctua has some the best coolers and fans. I have two Noctua coolers on my intel and AMD systems. Can barely hear the systems, even under load.
Looks a lot like a gentle typhoon. I still consider it the best 120mm silent radiator fan ever made, but this may change my mind
"They're actually pretty good?" Noctua fans are good, wow, what a surprise XD
Noctua for life
Missed ya 🅱️uddy
The industrial line of Noctua fans are far superior.
Finally!!!!!!!!!!
I still prefer the 2000w electric leaf blower situated half a mile away with ducting. Quieter and better air flow than even a noctua.
considering getting some noctua gear for my pc, still running stock fans and cpu cooler and i hate the wooooooeeerrrrrrrrrr when my machine is heating up.
I hope they make 140 mm versions of these fans.
cool stuff you do but audio pops on some shows and this one just a heads up
and thanks for the time you give us
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Have you tried StoreMI on the Threadripper system? Seems similar to Optana but you can use any NVME SSD. A license is $20, but it's also included on X470 boards. The version that's separate is called FuzeDrive.
What did you expect? Its a noctua fan... Made by austrians if im not mistaken. They are just like germans, it has to be perfect.
I might get a nhd-15 just to see how far i can get my i7 920 on air.
L1 just needs to start daily uploads..
we are pretty close to it, about 5-6 videos a week, but youtube doesn't always really out a lot of notices
:)
They are not that expensive once you look at something like ebm-papst...
and ebm-papst quality is not that what it was in the past...
Wendell in his element