Thanks, Brent. Great discussion. FINALLY - someone has directly addressed the issue of cropping wildlife shots on the R6 for people who cannot afford the R5.
Great video! I went with the R5 for two main reasons that just pushed me from the R6: - the cropability is important to me. Farthest reach I have is 400mm and I also take macro which cropping is really great to take a 2.5x magnification to a 4 or even 5x! - the ability to take an 8k video, then pull a 35 megapixel photo from it. This makes super fast things I’m worried about missing become a breeze to capture! Just film it and bam got it!
I could have sworn I already commented on this, but... this is one of the things that convinced me to get the R6 and put the savings into lenses. I appreciate you pointing out that 20mp is FINE, and was for a long time with DSLR's like the 1Dx and D5. I sometimes feel like the entire internet has forgotten that not only is it possible to do pro work with 20mp, but pros have been doing it for a long time. Thanks for you content, keep it up.
Hello Brent, I can't THANK YOU enough for this video, I am a wedding photographer from St. Louis, MO. I was really on the fence about the R5 vs R6, and now thanks to your RUclips video I will buy the R6! I've been very stressed about which camera to buy! This video really helped me!!!!
Im sitting here searching for wildlife videos with the r6 and bam you heard my fingers typing and pressed the upload button. YAY lol thanks for my fix.
Thank you, Brent! This is exactly the video I've been looking for! The numbers are irrelevant. I do studio shots of animals with an old 7D. I'm now positive that the R6 and a 50mm would vastly improve my images.
This video answered my questions perfectly! I was considering a 5D4 but wondered how the R6 would compare and whether or not I should consider the big price bump and go with an R5 but after this video, I have decided to go with the R6. Thank you for a most helpful and informative video!
Love your videos and this was no exception. Finally received my R5 a month ago. I mostly shoot professional baseball here in AZ, but do a lot of wildlife work as well. Went with the R5 for multiple reasons - 1. Better evf - 5.76 Million v. 3.69 Million Dots; 2. WiFi - 5 Ghz and Bluetooth 5.0 only in R5; 3. Storage - CFexpress card only in R5; 4. Resale value - if Canon comes out with an R1 series next year and the specs are right, many people like myself will be selling their R5's. My guess is that a used R5 will give back a greater return than a used R6. 5. Shutter Actuation Lifespan - 500K for R5 and 300K for R6 - this is a major difference and an aspect of the cameras a lot of people don't consider; and most important factor - 6. 45 mp sensor. Do to Covid and shutting down of baseball -- needed a camera that was suited for landscapes, architecture, and studio work. Plus, do a lot of macro photography and the extra mp makes a huge difference. I for one, didn't mind spending a little more to purchase a camera body with greater versatility. Having a 1Dx Mark II - the images the R5 produce are amazing; especially, with native R glass.
Hey that's awesome Ray! I do agree, if you can afford the R5 then I'd take it just about every time, except astro, where I prefer my R6 (but I'm lucky enough to have both ;).
@@joshuadxlee I think mush is a strong word, lol. The R5 has done very well with high iso and astro stuff for me, just not quite as good as the R6, though still better than anything else I've ever used.
thank you so much for this video! i’ve been debating these two cameras for a while and driving myself crazy thinking about it so much. i don’t know how many comparisons i’ve watched and read about! but yours has been most helpful, particularly because i was scared about ‘only 20MP’, and worried as it’s still a lot of money to spend on the r6 if it’s ‘not good enough’. so thank you for the clarity and reassurance!
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped! And yeah, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The R6 is an amazing camera, and if it's in your budget and you're looking for an upgrade, it will be worth it for sure.
Thanks man! Yeah, I feel you, that's one of my favorite shots. My mom asked for a print of that for xmas, and when I printed it out all big on metal, it looked amazing and I almost didn't want to give it to her, lol. I'm gonna order one for my studio for sure though. :)
Very helpful review. Heart wanted R5, I know I don't need need it...damnit man! I bought the R6, it's awesome, replaced a 6D for astro work and now have more versatility for daytime shooting. Appreciate the advice.
Wow, what a refreshing change! An honest, real life comparison review of the two cameras. I have a 5d IV which I use almost exclusively for wildlife, with a Canon 100-400 mk 2 and a 600 f4. My reasons for looking at mirrorless are the better autofocus and silent shutter. Seriously considering the R6 now. Thanks! 👍🏻
Thank you Steve, I appreciate the kind words, and I'm glad my video helped! Yeah, the AF was by far the best part of the upgrade for me. I loved my 5D4, but even with the resolution loss, I'd still take the R6 any day.
I’ve really enjoyed your opinion on the two cameras. I’ve been watching countless videos trying to help with the decision of R5 vs R6. Coming from a 5Dmkiii shooting mainly still life and landscape. I was worried it about the image quality and that it might feel like a step down switching to an R6. If I’m being honest with myself, 99.9% of what i shoot ends up on social media and the R5 will potentially be a waste. But I can’t help shake the nagging feeling that if I decide on the R6, I’ll always wished I had purchase the R5. I think I’m leaning towards the R6 and with the money saved, purchase some addition RF glass.
Sounds like the R6 and a lens or 2 would go a lot further for your personal needs. I wouldn't worry about the R6 IQ, it's very good, especially coming from a 5D3. You may always have that nagging feeling about not buying the absolute best of the best. We're conditioned to feel that way with materialism these days, but I can tell you that an R6 and some RF glass is gonna be much better and more fun than just an R5 and no new glass.
Great video. I just recently received my R6 and couldn't be happier. I'm an amateur, at best and as much as I "wanted" the R5, I chose the R6 for budget reasons. In regard to the megapixels, I previously shot with both a 6D and 7D MK2. Both are 20mp and I have several large prints that I love. As soon as I got my new camera, I used your settings for wildlife and it has been working great. Thank you!
Great video, thank you. This addresses all the issues thoughtfully and without all the hype. You will have settled the minds of many photographers on these cameras, logically and thoroughly!
I got one of the first R6s delivered to the States and it has been great. I got it because the AF will work with my 100-400 Mark II L with the 2X TC but the low light and high ISO has exceeded expectations.
@@mabbugao It has been excellent. Even though with the 2X TC it is F11, the AF can track birds in flight. I can shoot at 6400-12800 ISO to get the shutter speed up to 1000-2000 and the results are astonishing. Are there flaws? If you pixel peep. It is not a 600mm F4 but this setup is not $12000. I frequently use auto ISO with a max ISO of 25600 and minimum speed of 2000. If I have to crop very much the quality suffers but step one is get the shot. I would share examples but I don't think this platform allows it.
Brent, once again you have delivered a spot on video, I agree 100% with your opinions on the R6 for shooting wildlife, you are so a breath of fresh air to hear you talk total sense about cameras and photography. Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing the next video. 👏👍
Brent that's what's different about your videos, you actually use the gear in the real world and you point out pros and cons as you see them. There is nothing worse than someone reviewing gear they haven't used in the real world.
Thanks! I didn't forget to mention it though, I actually filmed a whole part about that but took it out since the video was getting really long and I felt that most people watching this particular video would be more photo based. You definitely need the CF Express if you want to do 8K or 4K 120, but other than that, I've had no issue, even in 4K 60p, just using a good, fast, SD card. I am going to make another video about how and why and when I shoot in 8K, and I will talk more about the cards in that one.
Thanks for the great info. I’m shooting 6D and have been struggling with AF while shooting birds. My new R6 is on the way. Looking forward to setting up dual button as you suggest. Again THANKS!
Great video as usual. I'm currently shooting wildlife as a hobby with the D77 and the Tamron 150-600mm G1. I'm thinking about upgrading my gear sometime near year with a $2000 budget. I also have the Sony A6000 and A7ii. My options are: 1. Sony 200-600mm lens 2. Canon EOS-R with an adapter to use with the Tamron 150-600mm G1 3. Canon EOS-R and the 800mm f/11 RF lens 4. Wait for the rumored Canon APS-C RF body coming out Q2 of next year What would you recommend?
Idk, I've never used a Sony, so I couldn't say how they feel or compare. I have done a video about the EOS R for wildlife though. As for the lenses, if you're on Canon I would say stick with the 150-600 since it's way more versatile. The 800 is great, but it's got a lot of drawbacks and is pretty limiting. I personally wouldn't want it as a main, or only wildlife lens.
thanks for this video i was considering the r5 over a second camera such as r7 but decided to go for r6 and a new r7 but i am struggling to buy one in the uk. I am currently reluctantly conclude to upgrade my 100-400 II for the RF 100-500, in order to do this I am having to sell my ef 70-200 2.8 and sigma 150-600 and rf 600 to afford the very expensive lens, i must admit the 7.1 aperture does put me off. I do believe people get lazy and forget about the atmosphere always get closer. I have in the past used a 300mm lens and got good results.
Thanks Brent. I bought the R6 yesterday. I thought I had made the right choice. You’ve confirmed that I have and have settled my post purchase niggling doubts. Thank you for that. Can’t wait to get out at the weekend!
Thankyou SOOOO MUCH!!!!! You have helped me so much...i have just purchased the R6 and the 100 - 500 lens...for wildlife! I also love to do landscape, so will save for a lens for landscape! You have eliminated my stress.....levels on not choosing the r5, i so appreciate YOUR video! I just subscribed...my r6 is on order...so waiting for it! YOU are AWESOME!
Excellent video. Answered all of my questions. I'm getting the R6. Now I just have to decide whether to keep my Canon 100-400L MKII or get the RF 100-500.
THANK YOU BRENT! I JUST BOUGHT THE R6. YOUR VIDEO WAS HELPFUL. YOUR MESSAGE IS CLEAR AND I WILL FOLLOW YOU. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR VIDEOS!!!
Hi .I jumped in and bought the R5. Am an amateur bird photographer and traded in the 7D MK2 and I agree with you the R5 is amazing. Low light and focusing, frames per second. Have also the 100-500 lens .A beauty no better than the 100-400 in sharpness but lighter and slightly more reach. Thanks for your great videos am a fan.
Brent, brilliant video for a 7:00AM kick off. Hit the nail on the head about Want and need...... In relation to wild life only, I really want the r5 (I have the R6) but really need to be able to crop as I can never get close enough.......but you know what is stopping me trading up......? Not the price but the fact I will be trading an SD slot for that other stupidly expensive and unnecessary card format (what’s it called?)!!!! Just to add a little back story, I ordered both cameras (from Wex I’m in the UK) in September 2020.....still waiting for a delivery date for the R5, can you believe it?! Now I know I can pick up a 2nd hand one on eBay, but whilst waiting I decided to dip into Medium format. Bought an X1DII......oh my god!! What fun, I’m over the megapixel issue now.
Thanks Ken! I feel you tho. I do love cropping, lol. Those CF Express cats are definitely pricey too. But if you're not doing 8K or 4K 120 video, then you really don't need a CF express card. At least not right away, since a fast SD card still does just fine for photos and regular video.
I don't miss that huge temperature swing between day and night that New Mexico has. But then again the humidity in the summer here in Arkansas is intense sometimes 🥵.
Thank you for the amazing reviews! I believe Canon owes you a commission as it was your videos that sealed my decision to finally replace my aging 70D with the R6. As you can imagine I’ve got quite a steep learning curve ahead of me so your videos are much appreciated. I’m looking forward to investigating the dual back button focus one in particular. I’m about 5 miles from Presque Isle PA, a birders paradise once they return in the Spring so I’ll have plenty of time to learn. One final question. Where did you get that hat? It looks perfect for the north coast Winters up here! Thanks again and you have a brand new subscriber!
Hi Chris.... I was wondering your views on the r6 and the learning curve from your 70d. I have the 80d and I'm trying to decide between r6 and 5dmk4. Thank you in advance..
Great video Brent! I was shooting with the 6DII for wildlife with the 100-400 II. I did a lot of research and settled on a 90D as a wildlife replacement. It has it's limits, but I'm waiting for the R7 and figured it was the best gap fill option. The 90D is a vary capable camera and after a week with it, I'm liking it.
Doubting between 90D, R6 and R5 right now. Was waiting for the R7 as well. But last week I heard Canon most likely cancelled the R7. Do you still like the 90D?
If i could have watching this video first, i would not have had to watch all the other ones ive watched. Read many of the comments below and i feel similarly. I shoot wildlife as a Canon “enthusiast.” I use the 90d with the Canon 100-400 mii. I do crop in some cases the the sensor helps. Sometimes i use the 1.4 ext. did you say the rf-ef adapter with the extender was bad? All Canon gear? Id still be a little torn. Those cropped r5 images of your were amazing. One more thing. You “hearted” almost every one of these comments. That”s really cool. Thank you.
Yeah, I try to read and reply to every legit or meaningful comment on my channel. So I did use an adapter, but it wasn't the Canon one, it was the Tamron 1.4x TC, and I only used it on the Tamron 150-600 G2, and I mentioned that it wasn't a great experience. I actually made another long video about the RF800 compared to the Tamron 150-600 G2 and that's where I used the TC. In that case the Tamron with the 1.4x just didn't perform consistently well enough for me to be able to rely on it in a professional shoot. I felt it did well enough for a normal day out, but just not something I would rely on for a paying gig. The Canon 1.4x TC, on good Canon glass has always worked well for me and I have no issues other than on the RF system, you're adding more size and weight with the TC and the RF-EF adapter on there, which the cameras can handle just fine, it's just something I made a note of when using a TC with an EF mounted lens on the RF system. I have not tried the RF TC yet, but I will soon, hopefully.
@@BrentHall thank you. One more thing is that when you use the 1.4 extender on say the canon 100 -400, you lose focus in points. But I am told that when you put it on in r6 or in R5 you don’t lose any focusing points as basically the whole class is focusing points.
Brent Hall hey buddy I just picked up the camera last night at Cardinal camera in Charlotte before they closed. I had to trade in my 6D Mark II But I think it was worth doing I ended up picking up at 70 D as a back up camera I traded in my 60 just to have a little bit extra cash. So far using the camera last night it’s very impressive it’s so quiet when you shoot 20 frames per second. I’m very excited to learn more about this camera I need to understand more about C-Log I don’t know much how to use that but I do shoot raw. Do you have a video that may explain how to shoot C. log. Thank you so much for responding.
I decided which one should I buy. I'm hybrid shooter. R6 with 70-200 RF lens because I've old efs prime and wide angle lenses. Don't need to just only for 45mp
Currently have the original 7D. Was contemplating a R5 but it is a little expensive for me so I'm going with the R6. Your review was really helpful, thanks.
Hi... I looked at your review and previously I told you that I will go on the R6. Agreat Camera... I took very nice pictures wih it. But a opportunity came and I bought a R5 , sold my R6 in a good price. I believe the R5 is a R6 in better.... One point that is important is the size of the picture at the same length.... with my 100-400 Mark II the R5 produces much bigger pictures and that makes the difference..... So thank you again....
Thank you Brent after listening to you i think the r6 is quite capable for my wildlife photography . plus i could not afford the r5, the wife would kill me
Excellent advice Brent thank you. I have been debating this so much as a wildlife vlogger and just not knowing which way to jump. I think you have convinced me that the R6 will be good enough for what I need when upgrading from my 5DIV. Cheers Keith
This has definitely been the most definitive video explaining these two cameras for me. Thank you very much!! I am still with my SL1, and ready to move up. Do you have a video out that would explain the difference in what I have, and the mirror less?
Thank you so much for the information about these 2 cameras. I've not been able to decide what one to buy for a while now but I think you have helped me decide now. Thank you again for taking the time to explain all of this info
Best review I’ve seen yet. I’m wanting to upgrade this year. I think the r-6 will suit my needs 95% of the time. I like shooting landscapes and I’ve started getting into wildlife. I’d like to see a side by side of very similar photographs in a large print between the two. For me $2500 is a lot of money to spend on a body. I would spend it but I really would hate to regret it. I think in the back of my mind I would always regret it or at least always wonder what I’m missing out on. I wish they would have upped the sensor and downgraded the video capability to keep a similar if not cheaper price point. For me, I’m buying a camera for the photography and rarely shoot any video. I’m going to wait a bit to see what canon comes up with for the r update.
Yeah, there seems to still be a large number of people out there with that min frame, just wanting more of a stills body. In this case though, I think the price, even for just using it for stills, is pretty solid (at least for me). The R6 is a big upgrade, in just the stills features, over the 5D4, which is what I was using before, and I'd take the lower mp of the R6 over the 5D4 any day because of the AF system along, as well as a bunch of other nice features I've come to really enjoy on the mirrorless platform.
Without doubt the best video i have seen (and i have watched a few) explaining the differences between R5 and R6, i shoot currently with a 7D11 and looking to upgrade and just cant decide which way to jump. I am currently testing Olympus gear specifically the E-M1 Mk111 and that's impressive. Decisions Decisions!!
Thanks a whole bunch. By the end when you sussed out who is better off with the R6, I just laughed! That is me! I am an avid hobbiest whose Canon d50 is old and whose 100-400 canon lens is giving out. Time for a new kit. Money matters. Going to look at that Tamron 150-600 G2 too. Thanks a ton!
I would get a canon adapter if you can. I've used a few third party ones and they've all broke after a few months, especially with a heavy lens like that.
@@BrentHall thanks. Will look for that! The money is scary right now. But I know it will be worth it. I love having an attack camera, hand held, for birds.
Brent, I found your channel about 6 months ago and love your tell it like it is style. I’ve watched most of your videos. This one I’ve watched at least 4 times and I’m finally making the upgrade from a 7D2 and 5D2 combo. I’ve gone back and forth and back and forth. Yes I crop, 2 weeks ago I was getting the R5 and now I find myself looking to get the R6 and then rumored R7 for wildlife photos and using that combo. I shoot small and large birds, landscape, street and portraits. My only worry is that the R6 won’t get me what I need for landscapes. Which is funny because the 5D2 does just fine for me. The thought of having just one body in the R5 for everything just seems weird! Anyway, if you have time. Just your thought please on the R6 for landscape photography and also this R7 (hopefully the mirrorless 7D2 replacement)? Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. Very grateful.
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words! I use my R6 for landscape all the time. I've printed huge prints from it, delivered 1000's of digital images (both high and low res) to clients, and no one has said said they didn't look high res enough. I've posted 1000s of images from the R6 on social media, and again, not once have I ever had ANYONE say anything about said images looking or being insufficient in any way at all, nor has anyone EVER been able to tell the difference between any of my R5, R6, or even RP images. My point here, as I hope you've surmised by now, is that resolution isn't always important, and just about anything modern is more than enough for most usage these days. The R6 is an amazing camera. About the the R7. I'll tell you what I tell every other person who asks me about it: It doesn't exist. There have been no official announcements or anything concrete on it's planned specs or production; therefore, personally, I don't even want to think about it. Even if Canon does ever decide to make one, it won't be soon enough to matter for your current upgrade desires. My philosophy is to get what you can now and enjoy it until the next thing that you need comes out, because if you just keep waiting, you'll miss out on using what you could get now, and all the potential amazing images you'll make from now until the thing you're waiting on comes out. Also, again personally, even if the R7 were magically here right now, I still wouldn't get one, because I'm no longer interested in crop body cameras. That's just me though. Everyone's needs and styles are different. Hope that helps.
Great vid on R5 vs R6. Couple years ago I got tired of the 7DII w/ Tamron 150-600 and switched to Sony a9II w/200-600 (and this spring the a1.) The autofocus of these new Canons and Sonys are the primary reason to upgrade. Good to know in this regard the R6=R5. If the Rs had come out earlier I might of saved some $$$. Still this video's info is very useful as many friends are still Canon users that look to this semi-gearhead for advice.
Awesome video as always. I Reco you to all Canon buddies and especially as they struggle with the AF and birds and your Dual back button solution. You are so down to earth.. the Eye AF is amazing except when it isn’t and it often misses more than we like but here is a solution! Thanks Brent!
Why is it assumed portrait photographers need big mp sensors? I used a Nikon D800 f(36mp sensor), mad I continually need to dumb down the images because all those pixels will capture so much detail as to show every little fault. Add the storage space and editing power and the fact that a 45mp sensor will make technique critical as it will show every tiny mistake you might make. Brilliant and informative video btw.
Awesome video, and so helpful for taking a decision. Thanks! I love the intro music too. Can you please tell me what it is and where to find it? Cheers!
Super nice video, thank you. I learn something in every video you do. I am not in a position at the moment to change any of my gear as like many others I lost my job to Covid downturn. Interesting that you switched from 1dx2, and didn’t go with the mark3 version. I learned a lot from your reasoning on 5R/6R and makes sense. I had the 1dx1 for 3 years then switched to the mk2 when it came out and have 4 L lenses, my most used is the 400/2.8 v2 and often with TC2 attached. I am super happy with shots when I nail the auto focus but technology moves on and now 4 years later, the R5/R6 auto focus tech is a step up. Subbed and look forward to your videos. Let’s hope year ends up better than last. All the best from Sunny Scotland 👍🏻
Hey thanks John, I appreciate the kind words! That 400 mk ii is a great lens for sure! I had a wildlife and landscape workshop in Scotland that scheduled for this June, but I've had to cancel it. If things start looking up around then I might still go out there for a vacation trip though. Here's hoping that things start to improve by then.
I bought the R5 and was so impressed I sold my 1DX2 and 5dsr and bought a R6. The one problem I'm having is with the R5 and 600/4 IS II it just can't get focus from going close to far or far to close. Not every time but enough to notice and miss shots sometimes. The auto focus and quiet shutter are such a big help with wildlife, my 1DX2 scared off animals with its freight train level shutter and mirror slap.
Oh wow, that's awesome! I haven't noticed that focus issue, but I also don't have a 600 f/4. But the shutter noise, or lack thereof, made me really happy too, even the mechanical shutter is way quieter than my 1DX2 was.
Thanks Brent, some useful thoughts there. I was wondering what the battery life is like and if there is much difference between the R5 and R6. I frequently photograph mountain hares in the snow and I'm worried about how much power the EVF consumes just watching an animal for long periods in the cold. Thanks.
well this is getting a bit ridiculous now, lol. I actually filmed a whole section about battery life, but took it out because the video was getting way too long...and now everyone seems to be asking about battery life, lol. I did talk a lot about battery life in my video about 3rd party accessories for the R5 and R6. From my experience with them so far, the battery life has been a bit worse than with my 5D4, even with the R5/R6 having the newer battery. The fact that you have the EVF and the higher speed burst modes just takes more juice, but that's to be expected. Having said that, I think it's still pretty good for me personally. I did buy extra batteries though, and always keep at least 2 extra in my pocket when out for wildlife photography.
I currently have an EOS R and can’t decide if I should upgrade to the R6, R5, or if I should hold off for a couple of more years and purchase the 100-500 RF.
How about viewfinder Lag ? Tony and Chelsea said in one video that it was fine until you starting taking pictures, then It was really bad for closer up fast birds in flight. What safest thou ?
I recently shot birds for the first time with my R6 and couldn't be happier. My 7D Mark II is now a doorstop and my 5D Mark IV is getting nervous. 😂 I'm wondering, as I shoot landscapes, whether I should budget for a R5 in the future as well, or wait for the rumored, photocentric 90 MP beast to come out. I don't need 8K video and the R6 video is good enough for me as a RUclips amateur. Thoughts? Thanks.
Yeah, I'd take my R6 over my 5D4 pretty much every time. It was a great camera, but I love the R5 and R6 way more. As for getting the R5, I really couldn't tell you if that's in your budget or worth it you. I can tell you though, that I have shot mostly on my 1DX2 for the last few years and have never had an issue with big prints, nor with clients or anyone online telling me my images weren't high res enough. The R5 is incredible, and I love it, and I wouldn't trade it for anything right now, but I was able to comfortably get it, and justify the price of the extra features for my business, and that may not be the same with other people. If you can afford it, then you'll love it, but since you already have an R6, you might think about how many new lenses you could get for the price of the R5.
Hey Brent I just joined your channel you given me and everyone else tons of good information Im an old schooled photographer love wildlife especially birds. I even have tons of experience in the black n white darkroom. I learned on my dads 4x5 press camera when I was about 14. Have you ever put the camera into crop sensor mode? my canon d300 needs to be replaced served me well. Loved your photographs
Thanks for the kind words Michael, I appreciate it! I have used crop mode sometimes, when the subject was super far away. I feel like it might help the af acquisition a little bit (but that's unconfirmed). The problem I find, for me anyways, is that if I find myself wanting to use crop mode, then I have to ask, is the subject too far away anyway, and is the shot even worth taking, for me personally. Unless it's for identification purposes, then I don't mind.
That's awesome! Good lenses are always a solid choice. And yes, it's a custom strat I got right before I left for the navy in 2003 and took with me on the carriers and helicopters. It's been through a lot, lol.
Paralysis by analysis - my nemesis. Being an accountant doesn't help either. I've run the numbers of selling/trading most of my current kit (5Div, 7Dii, 100-400mkii, Sigma 10-20 APSc, grips for both bodies) and my out-of-pocket is doable to get an R5 with grip and EF-R control ring. For lenses, I'm keeping my EF17-40L, 70-200 2.8 v1 and my Tamron 150-600G2. Then I start thinking... should I keep the 100-400 / trade in the G2? The 45MP on the R5 gives me the ability to crop harder, making up for the lost length AND I'm planning on the 800F11 down the road (and maybe the RF 100-500), so the lost length is a short term event. But the trade in on the G2 isn't what the 100-400 is, so alittle more out of pocket AND I'm pretty happy with what the G2 has done for me on the 5Div - those results would just continue / if not improve some. If I keep the G2, I could get the R6 (I don't 'need' 45mp - I WANT it ;) ) and bank some money, but these cameras are similar to computers in terms of power - buy as much as you can afford now - it will be obsolete 'soon' and you won't need to upgrade as soon as you would if you bought your minimum 'needs'. The R5, feature wise, could be the 10 year camera for me, much like the 1Dii I got in 2005 and was my buddy for over a decade. As I type this out, I think after the 4th, I'll stick to the original plan and get the R5 / run it with the G2. Thank you for being my therapist....
Thank you this was very helpful. I wonder what your thoughts are on the two cameras for landscape and macro photography? I’ve subscribed and look forward to more of your videos.
Thank you for this. Your video confirms my choice on the R6. I used to shoot with Canon 80D and a 5D IV with EF L glass. Its was good, but now with the R6 and the 100-500mm L lens its what I always wanted. I used to shoot film over 20 years ago and then left photography as it was disappointing for many years, but now its is insane. I subscribed and will check out more of your content.
Thanks for the kind words Rudy, I appreciate it! That's a great combo for sure. And thanks for the sub... you'll probably like tomorrow's video if you like wildlife. 😁
For me, the best budget wildlife lens is the tamron 150-600 g2. I have made quite a few videos about it, and the link for the lens should also be in the video description.
I’ve had a lot of cameras from all different brands. The R5/6 are easily my favorite cameras. Canon finally nailed it and will only get better. The best improvement is the sensors and focusing. Finally don’t need Sony anymore.
Thanks Brent. This video was the first I've seen of yours, but I will be subscribing and checking out more of yours. This video was pretty much spot on for the kind of information I was looking for and I did review a couple dozen videos on other channels. I've a good selection of EF lenses and was looking for information related to getting another body after shooting with just one DSLR for the past few years. I was considering just another Canon 5D (in order to not change lenses / cameras so often in the field) but thought I'd see what all the 'new' noise was about with mirrorless. Again, your video was perfect for the information I was looking for, thanks... albeit now it will probably cost me two R bodies rather than one 5D.
Having owned and shot with the 1DXII, 1DXIII, and now the R5, I will never go back to a DSLR and the IQ blows the R6 away. Huge difference - save up and buy the R5...
When the 1DX3 was coming out I really wanted it as an upgrade from my 1DX. The autofocus seemed much better. It sounds like my money would be better spent on the R5. I shoot birds mostly. I just have concerns for what I’m hearing about the animal AF. Have you had success at close range with this? Thanks
Thanks for the great video - watched it about 3 times. After we set all the buttons do we save them as a custom setting? Also where is the info on your private trips. My friends and I were canceled for the second time from Equator and the Galapagos. until April 2022
Hey thanks Gail, I'm glad the video helped! If you set it the way I did, with the dual back button focus and all that, you shouldn't need to save it as a custom setting, unless you want to have it set up another way as your main settings. That's definitely a bummer about your Galapagos trip being canceled! I'd cry, lol. You can check my workshops page, for current listed workshops I'm offering, or if you want something private within the southwest states then you can email me directly (brent@lightbendersvisuals.com) and we can put something together for where you want to go and what you want to learn and experience. Some of the more popular places I do private tours are White Sands, Death Valley, Bosque del Apache, San Juans, Gila National Forest, & Santa Fe, but I can do/go just about anywhere within a day's drive from sw NM on pretty short notice.
Super video Brent! I was looking through some YT videos about doing doing wildlife photography using the CanonR6. I photograph mainly birds as I live on the SC coast with lots of migratory birds passing through. I am currently using a Canon 7Dii with the Tamron 150-600 G2. I have gotten to where I love that combination, but feel I have gotten to where I am pretty much getting about the best possible using that combination. I also have a couple of 6Dii's that I do studio work with, but have never tried to shoot birds with it mainly due to the 6.5 fps limitation. From the info I now have from your reviews and my current budget, I am positive I will go with the CanonR6. As the Tamron 150-600 is the only lens I seem to use for the birds, I will probably try using the Tamron 150-600 for the time being. I have a few questions. Are you using the EF version of the G2 on your R6? In the image in the video, I could not see an adaptor between the R6 and the G2. Will I be fine using the G2 with the Canon adaptor with my EF version of the G2 lens? I do realize that I will be losing a lot of effective focal length from the 7Dii to using the R6, but I think I will be happy just being able to have the R6's focusing capabilities. The video put me off thinking about using an extender with that combo, especially for inflight shots. I do also like the fact that I could still use the R6 with all of my other Canon lenses that I have collected over the years. Thanks for any advice you may have. I'll go watch your video about those focusing settings now.
Yeah I had the EF version of the G2, it's only (Canon) mount there is. It works fine with the RF-EF adapter. The R6 is definitely a big upgrade over the 7D2, and I'd take it every time over any camera except the R5.
Thanks for the video. Very through and detailed. I was debating spending the money to upgrade from the 5D4 but every time I shoot with it, I’m reminded of how good of a camera it already is. I love the optical viewfinder as I use it as a spotting scope for wildlife. And it pairs up amazingly with my 400mm F4 do II. The AF system might not match up to the R5/R6 but it’s still pretty good. And I know it like the back of my hand in tight situations. Maybe one of these days I’ll spring for the new stuff but for now I’m planning on saving money and sticking with what I got. Just for curiosity sake Brett, how much better do you think the AF system is on the R5/R6 than the 5D4?
I'm glad the video helped! The 5D4 with the 400 DO is a really great combo for sure, and if that's what makes you happy then stick with it! Like I said in the video though, I was impressed enough with the AF in the R5 and R6 to sell my 1DX2 and 5D4 and have zero regrets. To me personally, it was a very big upgrade.
Thank you for your video! I had watched it months back, but now have the money for an R5 or R6. Currently I own a Canon 7D mark II so either of these will be an upgrade. I shoot mainly bird photography, but have been concerned about going from crop frame to full and then cropping my images. I use a Sigma 150-600mm lens. I am an amateur and I do not make any money off my pictures...yet! I have a deposit on an R6 and taking it for a test drive this weekend. My main concern is just cropping my pictures and ending up with a good one. I do actually have a showing in a small art gallery coming up, so not sure what that may hold in my future.
I'm glad my video helped! Unless you're cropping more than 50%, doing it often, and then printing bigger than 2-3ft with people viewing very closely, I wouldn't worry about the cropping. I do it all the time with my R6, and did for many years with my 1DX2 and 1DC, and I've printed quite big with all of them and never had any complaints from clients.
Hi Brent and a happy new year to you. You produced a very informative video. Now here is my question, have you ever tried using a speed booster. To mount medium format lenses on your 35mm cameras?
Please make another video on how to use R5 + Tamron 150-600 combo in shooting birds. Are you using the Canon EF to RF lens adapter for this combo? Thanks
Hi Brent, thx a lot for the review, finally someone who looked at the crop capability :) I have a point, I think, that no RUclipsr has talked about: the use of those 2 cameras when battery falls below 70 or 50%. What about the fps and the AF performance ? Because in the manual of the r5, the drop in FPS is quite scary 12 to 5 I think to remember when battery falls, for a 4000e camera I think it is unacceptable.. Did you use the R5 or R6 is these conditions ? Is the electronic shutter still working at 20 FPS whith low battery ? Many thanks ! :)
Hey David, thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate that! Yeah, I actually filmed a whole other section about battery life and about that very thing, but the video got so long that I cut it out. I have actually mentioned that in other videos though. I made a video about third party batteries and talked a bit about the fps loss when dropping below 70% battery life.
Thanks, Brent. Great discussion. FINALLY - someone has directly addressed the issue of cropping wildlife shots on the R6 for people who cannot afford the R5.
You bet Andy, I'm glad it helped! Thanks watching. :)
You, my friend are the only one that intelligently answered the questions for a wildlife photographer. Thank you.
Hey thanks for the kind words Joe, I really appreciate that, and I'm glad the video helped!
Great video! I went with the R5 for two main reasons that just pushed me from the R6:
- the cropability is important to me. Farthest reach I have is 400mm and I also take macro which cropping is really great to take a 2.5x magnification to a 4 or even 5x!
- the ability to take an 8k video, then pull a 35 megapixel photo from it. This makes super fast things I’m worried about missing become a breeze to capture! Just film it and bam got it!
Thanks Tommy! I'm the same. Being able to crop like crazy, and being able to film in 8K are two of my favorite things about the R5, lol.
I could have sworn I already commented on this, but... this is one of the things that convinced me to get the R6 and put the savings into lenses. I appreciate you pointing out that 20mp is FINE, and was for a long time with DSLR's like the 1Dx and D5. I sometimes feel like the entire internet has forgotten that not only is it possible to do pro work with 20mp, but pros have been doing it for a long time.
Thanks for you content, keep it up.
Hello Brent, I can't THANK YOU enough for this video, I am a wedding photographer from St. Louis, MO. I was really on the fence about the R5 vs R6, and now thanks to your RUclips video I will buy the R6! I've been very stressed about which camera to buy! This video really helped me!!!!
Hey that's awesome Kathie, I'm so glad I could help!
Im sitting here searching for wildlife videos with the r6 and bam you heard my fingers typing and pressed the upload button. YAY lol thanks for my fix.
lol, that's awesome. Good timing. :P
Thank you, Brent! This is exactly the video I've been looking for! The numbers are irrelevant. I do studio shots of animals with an old 7D. I'm now positive that the R6 and a 50mm would vastly improve my images.
You bet man, I'm glad I could help! That would definitely be a great upgrade. 😁
This video answered my questions perfectly! I was considering a 5D4 but wondered how the R6 would compare and whether or not I should consider the big price bump and go with an R5 but after this video, I have decided to go with the R6. Thank you for a most helpful and informative video!
Hey that's awesome, I'm glad I could help!
Love your videos and this was no exception. Finally received my R5 a month ago. I mostly shoot professional baseball here in AZ, but do a lot of wildlife work as well. Went with the R5 for multiple reasons - 1. Better evf - 5.76 Million v. 3.69 Million Dots; 2. WiFi - 5 Ghz and Bluetooth 5.0 only in R5; 3. Storage - CFexpress card only in R5; 4. Resale value - if Canon comes out with an R1 series next year and the specs are right, many people like myself will be selling their R5's. My guess is that a used R5 will give back a greater return than a used R6. 5. Shutter Actuation Lifespan - 500K for R5 and 300K for R6 - this is a major difference and an aspect of the cameras a lot of people don't consider; and most important factor - 6. 45 mp sensor. Do to Covid and shutting down of baseball -- needed a camera that was suited for landscapes, architecture, and studio work. Plus, do a lot of macro photography and the extra mp makes a huge difference. I for one, didn't mind spending a little more to purchase a camera body with greater versatility. Having a 1Dx Mark II - the images the R5 produce are amazing; especially, with native R glass.
Hey that's awesome Ray! I do agree, if you can afford the R5 then I'd take it just about every time, except astro, where I prefer my R6 (but I'm lucky enough to have both ;).
@@BrentHall do the R5 astro files turn to mush above iso6400?
@@joshuadxlee I think mush is a strong word, lol. The R5 has done very well with high iso and astro stuff for me, just not quite as good as the R6, though still better than anything else I've ever used.
@@BrentHall cheers mate. Yeah I have the 5Ds and it's infamously poor at high iso. The R5 should be a suitable upgrade for similar purposes?
I think those excellent closing remarks are even more timely this year as travel opportunities improve.
thank you so much for this video! i’ve been debating these two cameras for a while and driving myself crazy thinking about it so much. i don’t know how many comparisons i’ve watched and read about! but yours has been most helpful, particularly because i was scared about ‘only 20MP’, and worried as it’s still a lot of money to spend on the r6 if it’s ‘not good enough’. so thank you for the clarity and reassurance!
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped! And yeah, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The R6 is an amazing camera, and if it's in your budget and you're looking for an upgrade, it will be worth it for sure.
Thanks for review. I ended up with R5 because R6 was sold out and not available. Very happy with it.
Man I just have to say I get goosebumps whenever I see that photograph of the buck with it’s a antlers stretching out into the suns bokeh
Thanks man! Yeah, I feel you, that's one of my favorite shots. My mom asked for a print of that for xmas, and when I printed it out all big on metal, it looked amazing and I almost didn't want to give it to her, lol. I'm gonna order one for my studio for sure though. :)
Very helpful review. Heart wanted R5, I know I don't need need it...damnit man! I bought the R6, it's awesome, replaced a 6D for astro work and now have more versatility for daytime shooting. Appreciate the advice.
Thanks man! Have fun with it! The R6 is a huge upgrade from the 6D for sure. 😁
Wow, what a refreshing change! An honest, real life comparison review of the two cameras. I have a 5d IV which I use almost exclusively for wildlife, with a Canon 100-400 mk 2 and a 600 f4. My reasons for looking at mirrorless are the better autofocus and silent shutter. Seriously considering the R6 now. Thanks! 👍🏻
Thank you Steve, I appreciate the kind words, and I'm glad my video helped! Yeah, the AF was by far the best part of the upgrade for me. I loved my 5D4, but even with the resolution loss, I'd still take the R6 any day.
What a COMMON SENSE review. Thanks for this, extremely helpful and practical.
Hey thanks Mark, I really appreciate that, and I'm glad the video helped!
I’ve really enjoyed your opinion on the two cameras. I’ve been watching countless videos trying to help with the decision of R5 vs R6. Coming from a 5Dmkiii shooting mainly still life and landscape. I was worried it about the image quality and that it might feel like a step down switching to an R6. If I’m being honest with myself, 99.9% of what i shoot ends up on social media and the R5 will potentially be a waste. But I can’t help shake the nagging feeling that if I decide on the R6, I’ll always wished I had purchase the R5. I think I’m leaning towards the R6 and with the money saved, purchase some addition RF glass.
Sounds like the R6 and a lens or 2 would go a lot further for your personal needs. I wouldn't worry about the R6 IQ, it's very good, especially coming from a 5D3. You may always have that nagging feeling about not buying the absolute best of the best. We're conditioned to feel that way with materialism these days, but I can tell you that an R6 and some RF glass is gonna be much better and more fun than just an R5 and no new glass.
Great video. I just recently received my R6 and couldn't be happier. I'm an amateur, at best and as much as I "wanted" the R5, I chose the R6 for budget reasons. In regard to the megapixels, I previously shot with both a 6D and 7D MK2. Both are 20mp and I have several large prints that I love. As soon as I got my new camera, I used your settings for wildlife and it has been working great. Thank you!
Hey, that's awesome, I'm glad my video helped!
Great video, thank you. This addresses all the issues thoughtfully and without all the hype. You will have settled the minds of many photographers on these cameras, logically and thoroughly!
Thanks Martin, I'm glad the video helped!
Very honest and helpful. I am glad you made the point about being able to crop images at the higher ISO level with the R6.
Thanks Taylor, I appreciate it, and I'm glad it helped!
I have the R6 and was undecided whether i needed the R5 (I also crop a lot). Not so sure I do now (money isn't an issue as such. Great video
Thanks for watching Roy, I really appreciate it!
Get a Nikon..😂
I got one of the first R6s delivered to the States and it has been great. I got it because the AF will work with my 100-400 Mark II L with the 2X TC but the low light and high ISO has exceeded expectations.
May I know what’s your experience with that combination? Thank you very much
@@mabbugao It has been excellent. Even though with the 2X TC it is F11, the AF can track birds in flight. I can shoot at 6400-12800 ISO to get the shutter speed up to 1000-2000 and the results are astonishing. Are there flaws? If you pixel peep. It is not a 600mm F4 but this setup is not $12000. I frequently use auto ISO with a max ISO of 25600 and minimum speed of 2000. If I have to crop very much the quality suffers but step one is get the shot. I would share examples but I don't think this platform allows it.
Brent, once again you have delivered a spot on video, I agree 100% with your opinions on the R6 for shooting wildlife, you are so a breath of fresh air to hear you talk total sense about cameras and photography. Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing the next video. 👏👍
Thanks Ron! I just talk about what I experience, lol.
Brent that's what's different about your videos, you actually use the gear in the real world and you point out pros and cons as you see them. There is nothing worse than someone reviewing gear they haven't used in the real world.
Great video! You did forget to mention the super expensive cfexpress card that is needed to go along with the video specs of the R5.
That's a great point. $400 and up for a CFExpress card is a big extra expense compared to a UHS II SD.
Thanks! I didn't forget to mention it though, I actually filmed a whole part about that but took it out since the video was getting really long and I felt that most people watching this particular video would be more photo based. You definitely need the CF Express if you want to do 8K or 4K 120, but other than that, I've had no issue, even in 4K 60p, just using a good, fast, SD card. I am going to make another video about how and why and when I shoot in 8K, and I will talk more about the cards in that one.
One of the best videos about R5 & R6. Really appreciate your efforts in putting this video together!!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! 😃🙏
Thanks for the great info. I’m shooting 6D and have been struggling with AF while shooting birds. My new R6 is on the way. Looking forward to setting up dual button as you suggest. Again THANKS!
Sure thing Gene, I'm glad it helped, and have fun with your new R6!
Great video as usual. I'm currently shooting wildlife as a hobby with the D77 and the Tamron 150-600mm G1. I'm thinking about upgrading my gear sometime near year with a $2000 budget. I also have the Sony A6000 and A7ii. My options are:
1. Sony 200-600mm lens
2. Canon EOS-R with an adapter to use with the Tamron 150-600mm G1
3. Canon EOS-R and the 800mm f/11 RF lens
4. Wait for the rumored Canon APS-C RF body coming out Q2 of next year
What would you recommend?
Idk, I've never used a Sony, so I couldn't say how they feel or compare. I have done a video about the EOS R for wildlife though. As for the lenses, if you're on Canon I would say stick with the 150-600 since it's way more versatile. The 800 is great, but it's got a lot of drawbacks and is pretty limiting. I personally wouldn't want it as a main, or only wildlife lens.
thanks for this video i was considering the r5 over a second camera such as r7 but decided to go for r6 and a new r7 but i am struggling to buy one in the uk. I am currently reluctantly conclude to upgrade my 100-400 II for the RF 100-500, in order to do this I am having to sell my ef 70-200 2.8 and sigma 150-600 and rf 600 to afford the very expensive lens, i must admit the 7.1 aperture does put me off. I do believe people get lazy and forget about the atmosphere always get closer. I have in the past used a 300mm lens and got good results.
Thanks Brent. I bought the R6 yesterday. I thought I had made the right choice. You’ve confirmed that I have and have settled my post purchase niggling doubts. Thank you for that. Can’t wait to get out at the weekend!
That's awesome, I'm glad I could help!
Thankyou SOOOO MUCH!!!!! You have helped me so much...i have just purchased the R6 and the 100 - 500 lens...for wildlife! I also love to do landscape, so will save for a lens for landscape! You have eliminated my stress.....levels on not choosing the r5, i so appreciate YOUR video! I just subscribed...my r6 is on order...so waiting for it! YOU are AWESOME!
Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad the video helped.
Excellent video. Answered all of my questions. I'm getting the R6. Now I just have to decide whether to keep my Canon 100-400L MKII or get the RF 100-500.
Oh that's awesome, I'm glad I could help! Have fun with the new camera. :P
THANK YOU BRENT! I JUST BOUGHT THE R6. YOUR VIDEO WAS HELPFUL. YOUR MESSAGE IS CLEAR AND I WILL FOLLOW YOU. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR VIDEOS!!!
Hey thanks, I really appreciate that, and I'm glad the video helped!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video; it has been very helpful.
Sure thing John, thanks for watching!
Hi .I jumped in and bought the R5. Am an amateur bird photographer and traded in the 7D MK2 and I agree with you the R5 is amazing. Low light and focusing, frames per second. Have also the 100-500 lens .A beauty no better than the 100-400 in sharpness but lighter and slightly more reach. Thanks for your great videos am a fan.
That's an awesome upgrade, and an even better combo! I'm still saving up for the 100-500, but hopefully soon I'll have enough for it.
Brent, brilliant video for a 7:00AM kick off. Hit the nail on the head about Want and need...... In relation to wild life only, I really want the r5 (I have the R6) but really need to be able to crop as I can never get close enough.......but you know what is stopping me trading up......? Not the price but the fact I will be trading an SD slot for that other stupidly expensive and unnecessary card format (what’s it called?)!!!!
Just to add a little back story, I ordered both cameras (from Wex I’m in the UK) in September 2020.....still waiting for a delivery date for the R5, can you believe it?! Now I know I can pick up a 2nd hand one on eBay, but whilst waiting I decided to dip into Medium format. Bought an X1DII......oh my god!! What fun, I’m over the megapixel issue now.
Thanks Ken! I feel you tho. I do love cropping, lol. Those CF Express cats are definitely pricey too. But if you're not doing 8K or 4K 120 video, then you really don't need a CF express card. At least not right away, since a fast SD card still does just fine for photos and regular video.
@@BrentHall indeed, totally get that but I lose a slot and as I traded up from a one slot R it peees me off!
Brent glad I found you on here! Cheers mate stay safe!
Hey thanks Mark, I appreciate that!
I don't miss that huge temperature swing between day and night that New Mexico has. But then again the humidity in the summer here in Arkansas is intense sometimes 🥵.
Yeah, the temp swings can be crazy for sure, but I definitely don't miss all the humidity from back east! :)
Thank you for the amazing reviews! I believe Canon owes you a commission as it was your videos that sealed my decision to finally replace my aging 70D with the R6. As you can imagine I’ve got quite a steep learning curve ahead of me so your videos are much appreciated. I’m looking forward to investigating the dual back button focus one in particular. I’m about 5 miles from Presque Isle PA, a birders paradise once they return in the Spring so I’ll have plenty of time to learn. One final question. Where did you get that hat? It looks perfect for the north coast Winters up here! Thanks again and you have a brand new subscriber!
Hey that's awesome Chris! I'm glad my video helped. That's definitely a great area for spring migration!
Hi Chris.... I was wondering your views on the r6 and the learning curve from your 70d. I have the 80d and I'm trying to decide between r6 and 5dmk4. Thank you in advance..
Great video Brent! I was shooting with the 6DII for wildlife with the 100-400 II. I did a lot of research and settled on a 90D as a wildlife replacement. It has it's limits, but I'm waiting for the R7 and figured it was the best gap fill option. The 90D is a vary capable camera and after a week with it, I'm liking it.
Doubting between 90D, R6 and R5 right now. Was waiting for the R7 as well. But last week I heard Canon most likely cancelled the R7. Do you still like the 90D?
If i could have watching this video first, i would not have had to watch all the other ones ive watched. Read many of the comments below and i feel similarly. I shoot wildlife as a Canon “enthusiast.” I use the 90d with the Canon 100-400 mii. I do crop in some cases the the sensor helps. Sometimes i use the 1.4 ext. did you say the rf-ef adapter with the extender was bad? All Canon gear?
Id still be a little torn. Those cropped r5 images of your were amazing.
One more thing. You “hearted” almost every one of these comments. That”s really cool. Thank you.
Yeah, I try to read and reply to every legit or meaningful comment on my channel. So I did use an adapter, but it wasn't the Canon one, it was the Tamron 1.4x TC, and I only used it on the Tamron 150-600 G2, and I mentioned that it wasn't a great experience. I actually made another long video about the RF800 compared to the Tamron 150-600 G2 and that's where I used the TC. In that case the Tamron with the 1.4x just didn't perform consistently well enough for me to be able to rely on it in a professional shoot. I felt it did well enough for a normal day out, but just not something I would rely on for a paying gig. The Canon 1.4x TC, on good Canon glass has always worked well for me and I have no issues other than on the RF system, you're adding more size and weight with the TC and the RF-EF adapter on there, which the cameras can handle just fine, it's just something I made a note of when using a TC with an EF mounted lens on the RF system. I have not tried the RF TC yet, but I will soon, hopefully.
@@BrentHall thank you. One more thing is that when you use the 1.4 extender on say the canon 100 -400, you lose focus in points. But I am told that when you put it on in r6 or in
R5 you don’t lose any focusing points as basically the whole class is focusing points.
@@mobelue Yep, the R5 and R6 will retain all the focus points with the 100-400 and the 1.4x TC.
I can’t believe the temperature. I was just down in that area and now I’m in Minnesota with 16° and it is freaking cold.
Dayum! Yeah, I don't miss the winters up there!
Brent Hall hey buddy I just picked up the camera last night at Cardinal camera in Charlotte before they closed. I had to trade in my 6D Mark II But I think it was worth doing I ended up picking up at 70 D as a back up camera I traded in my 60 just to have a little bit extra cash. So far using the camera last night it’s very impressive it’s so quiet when you shoot 20 frames per second. I’m very excited to learn more about this camera I need to understand more about C-Log I don’t know much how to use that but I do shoot raw. Do you have a video that may explain how to shoot C. log. Thank you so much for responding.
Great vid Brent. I currently have a 5D3 and 7D2 and was considering trading them both in and getting an R6. I think you just convinced me!
Thanks man, I'm glad the video helped!
really appreciate this--have been on the fence R5 vs R6--now know I could do OK with R6
Glad I could help!🙂
I decided which one should I buy. I'm hybrid shooter. R6 with 70-200 RF lens because I've old efs prime and wide angle lenses. Don't need to just only for 45mp
Currently have the original 7D. Was contemplating a R5 but it is a little expensive for me so I'm going with the R6. Your review was really helpful, thanks.
Hey thanks Jordan, I'm glad my video helped!
Hi... I looked at your review and previously I told you that I will go on the R6. Agreat Camera... I took very nice pictures wih it. But a opportunity came and I bought a R5 , sold my R6 in a good price. I believe the R5 is a R6 in better.... One point that is important is the size of the picture at the same length.... with my 100-400 Mark II the R5 produces much bigger pictures and that makes the difference..... So thank you again....
Oh nice! I'm glad the video helped, and that you were able to upgrade! They are both great cameras, but I really love my R5. :P
Perfectly answered all my doubts. I don't NEED R5....
Thank you Brent after listening to you i think the r6 is quite capable for my wildlife photography . plus i could not afford the r5, the wife would kill me
I'm glad I could help! And that sounds like a wise choice... death by unhappy wife would suck 😅😂
Excellent advice Brent thank you. I have been debating this so much as a wildlife vlogger and just not knowing which way to jump. I think you have convinced me that the R6 will be good enough for what I need when upgrading from my 5DIV. Cheers Keith
Sure thing Keith, I'm glad it helped! The R6 will be an awesome upgrade from your 5D4. :)
Very nice job, clear, concise and relevant
Thanks Jeff, I'm glad you liked it!
Really appreciate the straight shooting👍🏽really helps- great videos- keep em coming.
Thanks man, I'm glad you like the videos!
This has definitely been the most definitive video explaining these two cameras for me. Thank you very much!! I am still with my SL1, and ready to move up. Do you have a video out that would explain the difference in what I have, and the mirror less?
Thanks man! I don't have a video specifically about dslr vs mirrorless though.
Thank you so much for the information about these 2 cameras. I've not been able to decide what one to buy for a while now but I think you have helped me decide now.
Thank you again for taking the time to explain all of this info
You're welcome Shane, I'm glad the video helped!
Hi Brent! Thank you for this video, Thnks to you comparison of the 5 and 6 I now feel that the R6 is the one I will go for.
you're welcome Lars, I'm glad it helped!
Best review I’ve seen yet. I’m wanting to upgrade this year. I think the r-6 will suit my needs 95% of the time. I like shooting landscapes and I’ve started getting into wildlife. I’d like to see a side by side of very similar photographs in a large print between the two.
For me $2500 is a lot of money to spend on a body. I would spend it but I really would hate to regret it. I think in the back of my mind I would always regret it or at least always wonder what I’m missing out on. I wish they would have upped the sensor and downgraded the video capability to keep a similar if not cheaper price point. For me, I’m buying a camera for the photography and rarely shoot any video. I’m going to wait a bit to see what canon comes up with for the r update.
Yeah, there seems to still be a large number of people out there with that min frame, just wanting more of a stills body. In this case though, I think the price, even for just using it for stills, is pretty solid (at least for me). The R6 is a big upgrade, in just the stills features, over the 5D4, which is what I was using before, and I'd take the lower mp of the R6 over the 5D4 any day because of the AF system along, as well as a bunch of other nice features I've come to really enjoy on the mirrorless platform.
Without doubt the best video i have seen (and i have watched a few) explaining the differences between R5 and R6, i shoot currently with a 7D11 and looking to upgrade and just cant decide which way to jump. I am currently testing Olympus gear specifically the E-M1 Mk111 and that's impressive. Decisions Decisions!!
Thanks Keith, I'm glad you liked it!
Thanks a whole bunch. By the end when you sussed out who is better off with the R6, I just laughed! That is me! I am an avid hobbiest whose Canon d50 is old and whose 100-400 canon lens is giving out. Time for a new kit. Money matters. Going to look at that Tamron 150-600 G2 too. Thanks a ton!
Thanks Elizabeth, I'm glad the video helped!
@@BrentHall Do you have a recommendation for an adaptor for EF lens to Canon RF? I think I will go with the Tamron 150-600.
I would get a canon adapter if you can. I've used a few third party ones and they've all broke after a few months, especially with a heavy lens like that.
@@BrentHall thanks. Will look for that! The money is scary right now. But I know it will be worth it. I love having an attack camera, hand held, for birds.
Brent, I found your channel about 6 months ago and love your tell it like it is style. I’ve watched most of your videos. This one I’ve watched at least 4 times and I’m finally making the upgrade from a 7D2 and 5D2 combo. I’ve gone back and forth and back and forth. Yes I crop, 2 weeks ago I was getting the R5 and now I find myself looking to get the R6 and then rumored R7 for wildlife photos and using that combo. I shoot small and large birds, landscape, street and portraits. My only worry is that the R6 won’t get me what I need for landscapes. Which is funny because the 5D2 does just fine for me. The thought of having just one body in the R5 for everything just seems weird! Anyway, if you have time. Just your thought please on the R6 for landscape photography and also this R7 (hopefully the mirrorless 7D2 replacement)? Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. Very grateful.
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words! I use my R6 for landscape all the time. I've printed huge prints from it, delivered 1000's of digital images (both high and low res) to clients, and no one has said said they didn't look high res enough. I've posted 1000s of images from the R6 on social media, and again, not once have I ever had ANYONE say anything about said images looking or being insufficient in any way at all, nor has anyone EVER been able to tell the difference between any of my R5, R6, or even RP images. My point here, as I hope you've surmised by now, is that resolution isn't always important, and just about anything modern is more than enough for most usage these days. The R6 is an amazing camera. About the the R7. I'll tell you what I tell every other person who asks me about it: It doesn't exist. There have been no official announcements or anything concrete on it's planned specs or production; therefore, personally, I don't even want to think about it. Even if Canon does ever decide to make one, it won't be soon enough to matter for your current upgrade desires. My philosophy is to get what you can now and enjoy it until the next thing that you need comes out, because if you just keep waiting, you'll miss out on using what you could get now, and all the potential amazing images you'll make from now until the thing you're waiting on comes out. Also, again personally, even if the R7 were magically here right now, I still wouldn't get one, because I'm no longer interested in crop body cameras. That's just me though. Everyone's needs and styles are different. Hope that helps.
Great vid on R5 vs R6. Couple years ago I got tired of the 7DII w/ Tamron 150-600 and switched to Sony a9II w/200-600 (and this spring the a1.) The autofocus of these new Canons and Sonys are the primary reason to upgrade. Good to know in this regard the R6=R5. If the Rs had come out earlier I might of saved some $$$. Still this video's info is very useful as many friends are still Canon users that look to this semi-gearhead for advice.
Awesome video as always. I Reco you to all Canon buddies and especially as they struggle with the AF and birds and your Dual back button solution. You are so down to earth.. the Eye AF is amazing except when it isn’t and it often misses more than we like but here is a solution! Thanks Brent!
Hey, you bet Michele! I really appreciate the kind words, and I'm so glad my video is helping!😁
Why is it assumed portrait photographers need big mp sensors? I used a Nikon D800 f(36mp sensor), mad I continually need to dumb down the images because all those pixels will capture so much detail as to show every little fault. Add the storage space and editing power and the fact that a 45mp sensor will make technique critical as it will show every tiny mistake you might make. Brilliant and informative video btw.
As usually Brent, great info in this video. Thanks for the content and have a good one.
Many thanks Jim! 🙂
Awesome video, and so helpful for taking a decision. Thanks! I love the intro music too. Can you please tell me what it is and where to find it? Cheers!
Great video on the R5 and R6. Thanks Brent
Thanks James, I'm glad you liked it!
Super nice video, thank you. I learn something in every video you do. I am not in a position at the moment to change any of my gear as like many others I lost my job to Covid downturn.
Interesting that you switched from 1dx2, and didn’t go with the mark3 version. I learned a lot from your reasoning on 5R/6R and makes sense. I had the 1dx1 for 3 years then switched to the mk2 when it came out and have 4 L lenses, my most used is the 400/2.8 v2 and often with TC2 attached. I am super happy with shots when I nail the auto focus but technology moves on and now 4 years later, the R5/R6 auto focus tech is a step up. Subbed and look forward to your videos. Let’s hope year ends up better than last. All the best from Sunny Scotland 👍🏻
Hey thanks John, I appreciate the kind words! That 400 mk ii is a great lens for sure! I had a wildlife and landscape workshop in Scotland that scheduled for this June, but I've had to cancel it. If things start looking up around then I might still go out there for a vacation trip though. Here's hoping that things start to improve by then.
I bought the R5 and was so impressed I sold my 1DX2 and 5dsr and bought a R6. The one problem I'm having is with the R5 and 600/4 IS II it just can't get focus from going close to far or far to close. Not every time but enough to notice and miss shots sometimes. The auto focus and quiet shutter are such a big help with wildlife, my 1DX2 scared off animals with its freight train level shutter and mirror slap.
Oh wow, that's awesome! I haven't noticed that focus issue, but I also don't have a 600 f/4. But the shutter noise, or lack thereof, made me really happy too, even the mechanical shutter is way quieter than my 1DX2 was.
Thanks for your thoughts I just wish they would have went to a 30mp I have the R6
Thanks Brent, some useful thoughts there. I was wondering what the battery life is like and if there is much difference between the R5 and R6. I frequently photograph mountain hares in the snow and I'm worried about how much power the EVF consumes just watching an animal for long periods in the cold. Thanks.
well this is getting a bit ridiculous now, lol. I actually filmed a whole section about battery life, but took it out because the video was getting way too long...and now everyone seems to be asking about battery life, lol. I did talk a lot about battery life in my video about 3rd party accessories for the R5 and R6. From my experience with them so far, the battery life has been a bit worse than with my 5D4, even with the R5/R6 having the newer battery. The fact that you have the EVF and the higher speed burst modes just takes more juice, but that's to be expected. Having said that, I think it's still pretty good for me personally. I did buy extra batteries though, and always keep at least 2 extra in my pocket when out for wildlife photography.
Just got the a7rii couple of days ago. Haven’t gotten to really push it yet, but it is great so far
It all boils down to tea, if the tea is cold, you better make a new cup.
Cool man, gonna ride along with you for awhile. i live 45mins from SpaceX, gotta get this camera down.
Thank you Brett I was also debating between the 2, now I know I am getting R6 I mostly shoots wildlife anyway and seldom videoing. Thank you so much
I currently have an EOS R and can’t decide if I should upgrade to the R6, R5, or if I should hold off for a couple of more years and purchase the 100-500 RF.
How about viewfinder Lag ? Tony and Chelsea said in one video that it was fine until you starting taking pictures, then It was really bad for closer up fast birds in flight. What safest thou ?
I haven't had any issues with it.
Thank you very much. You just helped me with my decision. Fantastic information from a real user.
You're welcome, I'm glad I could help!
I recently shot birds for the first time with my R6 and couldn't be happier. My 7D Mark II is now a doorstop and my 5D Mark IV is getting nervous. 😂 I'm wondering, as I shoot landscapes, whether I should budget for a R5 in the future as well, or wait for the rumored, photocentric 90 MP beast to come out. I don't need 8K video and the R6 video is good enough for me as a RUclips amateur. Thoughts? Thanks.
Yeah, I'd take my R6 over my 5D4 pretty much every time. It was a great camera, but I love the R5 and R6 way more. As for getting the R5, I really couldn't tell you if that's in your budget or worth it you. I can tell you though, that I have shot mostly on my 1DX2 for the last few years and have never had an issue with big prints, nor with clients or anyone online telling me my images weren't high res enough. The R5 is incredible, and I love it, and I wouldn't trade it for anything right now, but I was able to comfortably get it, and justify the price of the extra features for my business, and that may not be the same with other people. If you can afford it, then you'll love it, but since you already have an R6, you might think about how many new lenses you could get for the price of the R5.
@@BrentHall Very good point...
Love your videos your so straight talking! I think i will get the R6 now! Thanks again!
Hey thanks Dave, I appreciate that, and I'm glad my video helped!
Hey Brent I just joined your channel you given me and everyone else tons of good information Im an old schooled photographer love wildlife especially birds. I even have tons of experience in the black n white darkroom. I learned on my dads 4x5 press camera when I was about 14. Have you ever put the camera into crop sensor mode? my canon d300 needs to be replaced served me well. Loved your photographs
Thanks for the kind words Michael, I appreciate it! I have used crop mode sometimes, when the subject was super far away. I feel like it might help the af acquisition a little bit (but that's unconfirmed). The problem I find, for me anyways, is that if I find myself wanting to use crop mode, then I have to ask, is the subject too far away anyway, and is the shot even worth taking, for me personally. Unless it's for identification purposes, then I don't mind.
Thank you. R6 for me for sure. Plus 2 good lenses. It your strat a fender?
That's awesome! Good lenses are always a solid choice. And yes, it's a custom strat I got right before I left for the navy in 2003 and took with me on the carriers and helicopters. It's been through a lot, lol.
Paralysis by analysis - my nemesis. Being an accountant doesn't help either. I've run the numbers of selling/trading most of my current kit (5Div, 7Dii, 100-400mkii, Sigma 10-20 APSc, grips for both bodies) and my out-of-pocket is doable to get an R5 with grip and EF-R control ring. For lenses, I'm keeping my EF17-40L, 70-200 2.8 v1 and my Tamron 150-600G2. Then I start thinking... should I keep the 100-400 / trade in the G2? The 45MP on the R5 gives me the ability to crop harder, making up for the lost length AND I'm planning on the 800F11 down the road (and maybe the RF 100-500), so the lost length is a short term event. But the trade in on the G2 isn't what the 100-400 is, so alittle more out of pocket AND I'm pretty happy with what the G2 has done for me on the 5Div - those results would just continue / if not improve some. If I keep the G2, I could get the R6 (I don't 'need' 45mp - I WANT it ;) ) and bank some money, but these cameras are similar to computers in terms of power - buy as much as you can afford now - it will be obsolete 'soon' and you won't need to upgrade as soon as you would if you bought your minimum 'needs'. The R5, feature wise, could be the 10 year camera for me, much like the 1Dii I got in 2005 and was my buddy for over a decade. As I type this out, I think after the 4th, I'll stick to the original plan and get the R5 / run it with the G2. Thank you for being my therapist....
Sometimes typing it out in a ginormous RUclips comment is the best therapy!
Terrific review Brent! It was very helpful to me.
Thanks, I'm glad it helped!
Thank you this was very helpful. I wonder what your thoughts are on the two cameras for landscape and macro photography? I’ve subscribed and look forward to more of your videos.
I use them both for landscape and macro, and I love them both.
I quite like your format now.
Many thanks!
Thank you for this. Your video confirms my choice on the R6. I used to shoot with Canon 80D and a 5D IV with EF L glass. Its was good, but now with the R6 and the 100-500mm L lens its what I always wanted. I used to shoot film over 20 years ago and then left photography as it was disappointing for many years, but now its is insane. I subscribed and will check out more of your content.
Thanks for the kind words Rudy, I appreciate it! That's a great combo for sure. And thanks for the sub... you'll probably like tomorrow's video if you like wildlife. 😁
Very informative. Keep them coming. All the best for 2021 from Australia
Many thanks!
Thanks for unbiased advice - I have gone with R6 - please suggest a value for money lens for birding.
For me, the best budget wildlife lens is the tamron 150-600 g2. I have made quite a few videos about it, and the link for the lens should also be in the video description.
I’ve had a lot of cameras from all different brands. The R5/6 are easily my favorite cameras. Canon finally nailed it and will only get better.
The best improvement is the sensors and focusing. Finally don’t need Sony anymore.
Thanks Brent. This video was the first I've seen of yours, but I will be subscribing and checking out more of yours. This video was pretty much spot on for the kind of information I was looking for and I did review a couple dozen videos on other channels. I've a good selection of EF lenses and was looking for information related to getting another body after shooting with just one DSLR for the past few years. I was considering just another Canon 5D (in order to not change lenses / cameras so often in the field) but thought I'd see what all the 'new' noise was about with mirrorless. Again, your video was perfect for the information I was looking for, thanks... albeit now it will probably cost me two R bodies rather than one 5D.
Hey thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate that! I'm glad my video helped. :)
Having owned and shot with the 1DXII, 1DXIII, and now the R5, I will never go back to a DSLR and the IQ blows the R6 away. Huge difference - save up and buy the R5...
When the 1DX3 was coming out I really wanted it as an upgrade from my 1DX. The autofocus seemed much better. It sounds like my money would be better spent on the R5. I shoot birds mostly. I just have concerns for what I’m hearing about the animal AF. Have you had success at close range with this? Thanks
I haven't had any af issues with the R5. It's been far superior to my 1DX2 and 5D4.
Great review/analysis. Have you played with the EF400mm f/4 DO II? Amazingly sharp, lightweight, and versatile.
Thank you! I haven't tried that one. It does look like an amazing lens though.
Thanks for the great video - watched it about 3 times. After we set all the buttons do we save them as a custom setting? Also where is the info on your private trips. My friends and I were canceled for the second time from Equator and the Galapagos. until April 2022
Hey thanks Gail, I'm glad the video helped! If you set it the way I did, with the dual back button focus and all that, you shouldn't need to save it as a custom setting, unless you want to have it set up another way as your main settings.
That's definitely a bummer about your Galapagos trip being canceled! I'd cry, lol. You can check my workshops page, for current listed workshops I'm offering, or if you want something private within the southwest states then you can email me directly (brent@lightbendersvisuals.com) and we can put something together for where you want to go and what you want to learn and experience. Some of the more popular places I do private tours are White Sands, Death Valley, Bosque del Apache, San Juans, Gila National Forest, & Santa Fe, but I can do/go just about anywhere within a day's drive from sw NM on pretty short notice.
Super video Brent! I was looking through some YT videos about doing doing wildlife photography using the CanonR6. I photograph mainly birds as I live on the SC coast with lots of migratory birds passing through. I am currently using a Canon 7Dii with the Tamron 150-600 G2. I have gotten to where I love that combination, but feel I have gotten to where I am pretty much getting about the best possible using that combination. I also have a couple of 6Dii's that I do studio work with, but have never tried to shoot birds with it mainly due to the 6.5 fps limitation. From the info I now have from your reviews and my current budget, I am positive I will go with the CanonR6. As the Tamron 150-600 is the only lens I seem to use for the birds, I will probably try using the Tamron 150-600 for the time being. I have a few questions. Are you using the EF version of the G2 on your R6? In the image in the video, I could not see an adaptor between the R6 and the G2. Will I be fine using the G2 with the Canon adaptor with my EF version of the G2 lens? I do realize that I will be losing a lot of effective focal length from the 7Dii to using the R6, but I think I will be happy just being able to have the R6's focusing capabilities. The video put me off thinking about using an extender with that combo, especially for inflight shots. I do also like the fact that I could still use the R6 with all of my other Canon lenses that I have collected over the years. Thanks for any advice you may have. I'll go watch your video about those focusing settings now.
Yeah I had the EF version of the G2, it's only (Canon) mount there is. It works fine with the RF-EF adapter. The R6 is definitely a big upgrade over the 7D2, and I'd take it every time over any camera except the R5.
@@BrentHall Thank you! Been watching more of your videos!
This was really helpful and informative. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words Ben, I really appreciate that!
Thanks for the video. Very through and detailed. I was debating spending the money to upgrade from the 5D4 but every time I shoot with it, I’m reminded of how good of a camera it already is. I love the optical viewfinder as I use it as a spotting scope for wildlife. And it pairs up amazingly with my 400mm F4 do II. The AF system might not match up to the R5/R6 but it’s still pretty good. And I know it like the back of my hand in tight situations. Maybe one of these days I’ll spring for the new stuff but for now I’m planning on saving money and sticking with what I got.
Just for curiosity sake Brett, how much better do you think the AF system is on the R5/R6 than the 5D4?
I'm glad the video helped! The 5D4 with the 400 DO is a really great combo for sure, and if that's what makes you happy then stick with it! Like I said in the video though, I was impressed enough with the AF in the R5 and R6 to sell my 1DX2 and 5D4 and have zero regrets. To me personally, it was a very big upgrade.
@@BrentHall appreciate the reply. I’ll have to rent it one of these days to try it out.
Thank you for your video! I had watched it months back, but now have the money for an R5 or R6. Currently I own a Canon 7D mark II so either of these will be an upgrade. I shoot mainly bird photography, but have been concerned about going from crop frame to full and then cropping my images. I use a Sigma 150-600mm lens. I am an amateur and I do not make any money off my pictures...yet! I have a deposit on an R6 and taking it for a test drive this weekend. My main concern is just cropping my pictures and ending up with a good one. I do actually have a showing in a small art gallery coming up, so not sure what that may hold in my future.
I'm glad my video helped! Unless you're cropping more than 50%, doing it often, and then printing bigger than 2-3ft with people viewing very closely, I wouldn't worry about the cropping. I do it all the time with my R6, and did for many years with my 1DX2 and 1DC, and I've printed quite big with all of them and never had any complaints from clients.
Hi Brent and a happy new year to you.
You produced a very informative video. Now here is my question, have you ever tried using a speed booster. To mount medium format lenses on your 35mm cameras?
Thank you, I appreciate that. I haven't tried to adapt medium format lenses to my cameras though.
Please make another video on how to use R5 + Tamron 150-600 combo in shooting birds. Are you using the Canon EF to RF lens adapter for this combo? Thanks
Your videos are just so helpful and informative. Thanks for the practical advice.
You're welcome Pauline, I'm glad they're helping! 🙂
That's pretty cold, even here, in Scotland! Great video!
It's definitely cold! Fortunately it warms up pretty fast once the sun is out. Usually back into the 50s and 60s every afternoon. 😁
That's nice, it pretty much stays the same most of the day while in a cold snap this time of year, usually a bit warmer though.
Hi Brent, thx a lot for the review, finally someone who looked at the crop capability :)
I have a point, I think, that no RUclipsr has talked about: the use of those 2 cameras when battery falls below 70 or 50%. What about the fps and the AF performance ? Because in the manual of the r5, the drop in FPS is quite scary 12 to 5 I think to remember when battery falls, for a 4000e camera I think it is unacceptable.. Did you use the R5 or R6 is these conditions ? Is the electronic shutter still working at 20 FPS whith low battery ?
Many thanks ! :)
Hey David, thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate that! Yeah, I actually filmed a whole other section about battery life and about that very thing, but the video got so long that I cut it out. I have actually mentioned that in other videos though. I made a video about third party batteries and talked a bit about the fps loss when dropping below 70% battery life.