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NATO Allies in Extreme Cold Weather Survival Training in Northern Finland

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  • Опубликовано: 19 фев 2024
  • In northern Finland, temperatures regularly drop below -20 degrees Celsius, which makes it the ideal place to train military personnel from Allied countries on how to survive in the cold.
    Defense Now February - 2024
    • DN Feb. 2024
    Finns train NATO Allies in winter survival skills
    FINLAND
    02.05.2024
    In Lapland, northern Finland, where temperatures regularly drop below -20 degrees Celsius, Finnish instructors from the Finnish Defence Forces’ Jaeger Brigade run different courses for military personnel from various NATO countries.
    In this iteration, course participants came from France, the United Kingdom, the United States as well as Finland.
    The course focuses on subjects such as using layered clothing, protecting against and treatment of injuries related to frostbite, sustaining performance capability, making fires, developing cross-country skiing skills and rescuing from the ice.
    Footage includes various shots of course participants from Finland, France, the UK and the US receiving instruction in fire lighting, skiing and ice rescue.
    Film Credits: Courtesy Video: Natochannel
    #survivaltraining #extremeweather #coldweather #Finland #outdoors #adventure #bushcraft #winter #wilderness #survival #training #explore #NorthernFinland #camping #arctic #skills #snow #nature #expedition #extremecold

Комментарии • 109

  • @jukkasinda2073
    @jukkasinda2073 5 месяцев назад +99

    When you look at these kind of videos it is always amazing how easily you forget that things like making fire are new and strange things for very many people. Living here where even my youngest kid who is 7 years of age knows how to set up fire. But hey, that's why you do training like this and learn. Good job!

  • @ninjakalla4361
    @ninjakalla4361 5 месяцев назад +58

    Well disciplined guys there, none of them seemed to panic from falling in the icy water. It's really not as easy as they made it seem even when prepared for it. As a finn I'm happy to see our new alliance members training here, those skills will serve them well and I'm sure the experience is a memorable one.

    • @Prushka
      @Prushka 5 месяцев назад +11

      if you are prepared for it you probably won't panic. I was expecting worse when I dropped in, the water really doesn't feel as cold as you'd expect it to, the problems arise once you are out of the water and you need to get your wet clothes off with fingers that barely function because of how cold they are

    • @onerva0001
      @onerva0001 5 месяцев назад

      I was impressed that none of them screamed going in! But I've only been in ice hole in a swimming suite, maybe it helps to have some layers on like they had?

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 5 месяцев назад

      they are real soldiers, this is just another ribbon to obtain for them. They dont need to man up anymore, they have proven their (wo-)manhood
      i have not seen girls in the footage, but i am sure there are some tough as nails ladies within the troops.
      very different from putting random tourists into the situation.

    • @Hnkka
      @Hnkka 5 месяцев назад +1

      being calm makes things way easier to you and for survival

    • @tonsssedell4318
      @tonsssedell4318 5 месяцев назад +1

      @l7037 I never made myself do it in a swimming suit or naked after all. :D Yet.
      It hits way slower when you have all those layers. It's obviously worse and more dangerous but without the instant cold. You retain more mental ability but of course there's more to be done when you're suddenly about to drown in ice with equipment vs. just ice swimming. Even that is harder when it's not a training hole in strong ice but you just fell through and cannot trust the ice next to the hole, or any ice during evacuation.

  • @JoseyStranded
    @JoseyStranded 5 месяцев назад +38

    From Louisiana to Finnish Lapland in mid winter is quite a change. Never been to Louisiana but I've been to Texas several times and the heat down there can get intense at times. :)

  • @grumpyfinn
    @grumpyfinn 5 месяцев назад +21

    50/50 finnish american from right outside d.c., now living in Finland again and did my conscript service and in the reserves.... my fellow americans got a little shock in the ice water, i live on an island no bridges etc... in 5 years i been through the ice 3 times... staying calm is important but much easier when you know u have help right there... when alone like me harder to stay calm, but even more important.

    • @Hnkka
      @Hnkka 5 месяцев назад

      yep!

    • @Jay_Kay666
      @Jay_Kay666 5 месяцев назад +1

      Five times is quite a lot. You do something seriously wrong or can't read the ice quality.
      In 40 years i've dropped through the ice once. I was ten years old and water depth was less than a meter and it was quite expected if you play "who has the balls to jump hardest on a very thin ice" on a shallow beach. We knew it was shallow and safe but we didn't take into account that we need to walk home and had small cold burns by the time we were home.

  • @thamor4746
    @thamor4746 5 месяцев назад +24

    Was laughing as the basic words came to mind "Welcome to Finland". Hope these soldiers got some good experience, it's tough in the cold, but having positive mentality will make this experience they got a fun memory and hopefully they won't need these training situations in real life war. As it's fucking brutal to fight in very cold temperatures a war.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 5 месяцев назад

      and that is why the losses on russian side always will be high when they visit.
      they do not train this at all, unless a handful of speznaz maybe - and that matter is made worse by their practise to send some minorities to the front who come from different climatezones.
      I they would field 400.000 native siberians, then they would have the survival in the cold covered - remains to be seen how well the training in other department goes.
      but usually the main attack vectors is just like last time from st.petersburg - north of ladoga - and maybe west of murmansk region, of which only the murmansk vector would be in the "brutal-cold"

  • @johnauvin
    @johnauvin 5 месяцев назад +7

    Incredible. Very interesting. Long live NATO. Long live Finland ...

  • @nordicexposure
    @nordicexposure 5 месяцев назад +35

    Very nice to see NATO allies here in Nordic countries to get some exposure to cold conditions 💪🏻

  • @Tedger
    @Tedger 5 месяцев назад +30

    Not the most enjoyable training... but imagine sauna after that :D

  • @larion3296
    @larion3296 5 месяцев назад +16

    One important matter is to use skis instead of snowshoes. Snowshoes are only better if the terrain is very steep and uneven. And it must be forrest skis that are wider. The Finns achieved a lot of success with skis against the Russians in ww2.

    • @herptek
      @herptek 5 месяцев назад

      It takes less energy to travel with skis than to walk with whatever devices. A disadvantage might be some difficulty when negotiating obstacles or steep hills as you said.

    • @vaenii5056
      @vaenii5056 5 месяцев назад +1

      Especially in northern Finland it is impossible to move without skis in winter because the snow can easily be waist deep. People may not realize how exhausting and slow that would be with your kit and everything.
      Snowshoes are better than nothing but skis are the fastest way to move around on foot.

    • @herptek
      @herptek 5 месяцев назад

      @@vaenii5056 Fastest and especially less exhausting.

    • @justskip4595
      @justskip4595 5 месяцев назад +1

      One big thing not mentioned is how the first guy creates the tracks for others to ski in. It is exhausting only for the first one and you can keep on swapping the guy in front while others behind have so so much easier time just following.

  • @lumihanki5631
    @lumihanki5631 5 месяцев назад +10

    Luti kysy multa 2005 yksikköä ja arvoa ku oltiin uimassa suksien kaa.... ..kattoin silimiin ja vastasin, notta Vertti Hiiri - vasen laitapakki - Ylävirran yritys

  • @villekinnunen6357
    @villekinnunen6357 5 месяцев назад +7

    Jaeger Brigade! 💪😎

  • @VesaJulin
    @VesaJulin 5 месяцев назад +8

    Some familiar places from my own service in Jaeger Brigade. We didn't train that much skiing tough. Everyone already was quite familiar with it.

  • @samulimaunula5208
    @samulimaunula5208 Месяц назад

    It's funny as I was raised up as a little boy to do these things. Shot my first shotgun at the age of 7, driving a tractor at 8, car at 10 etc. Respect to the guys coming here to get a sense of a ""warm feel"! :)

  • @imas84
    @imas84 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ok i saw something 2:33.. He used the blade side of the knife to spark the fire. The knife gets dull. Always use the blunt side of the knife. That’s why these trainings are.

    • @IDDQD_1
      @IDDQD_1 4 месяца назад

      In life threatning conditions you worry about your knife? In the 80's these tests or exercises were done in reverse order. Fisrt dip in the icy water and then make fire to warm your self up. And that was mandatory test for all conscripts. A Sharp blade can't rescue from the mother nature

  • @kimmoj2570
    @kimmoj2570 Месяц назад +1

    We dunk all Arctic warfare traineers to "avanto", hole in lake ice, here. Part of recce training could ice carry heavy equipment, like trucks, tanks, etc... After swimming couple minutes in avanto, just hard running till you warm up, remove wet clothes and put them to drying line in tent. After that slip to thick sleeping bag in Adams clothes. And sleep like baby. Going to avanto is great pleasure, as you have means to warm up afterwards, and trainers make sure of that. There is tent with cherry hot stove nearby to dry clothes and rest. Your blood never flow better on your veins than going to avanto.

  • @janko6608
    @janko6608 5 месяцев назад +18

    Nice. Greetings from Finland

  • @vaenii5056
    @vaenii5056 5 месяцев назад +6

    6:30 What your first job interview feels like

    • @RockerFinland
      @RockerFinland 5 месяцев назад

      Lmao 😂😂

    • @pjaro77
      @pjaro77 2 месяца назад

      He is like on holliday.

  • @SamiNami
    @SamiNami 5 месяцев назад +6

    The cold water training is not fun haha, been there, done that. Nice to see that they handled it so well.

    • @tomoffinland123
      @tomoffinland123 5 месяцев назад

      It's not that bad as long as you don't dip your head in the water. If your head goes in, then it easily makes your breathing halt for a while because of the shock reaction

  • @onerva0001
    @onerva0001 5 месяцев назад +3

    That cold water is brutal. Also hypothermia is a real danger after you get out since you are soaked in near freezing water which will actually freeze on you.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 5 месяцев назад +3

      i am sure they have a warm tent nearby
      but this is why you learn to make fire, before you learn to wet your pants :)
      i notice ski and sticks had swimmers attached, trainers did not trust students not to loose them in the ice-hole.

    • @j3mixa
      @j3mixa 5 месяцев назад

      The biggest problem is not that the water freezes on you but the fact that when water evaporates it chills the surface even further. Even if the outer layer freezes, the layer right next to your body stays wet and cools you down. In freezing temperatures it's vital to have a dry set of clothes with you if you can't get to a warm place fast. You can use this phenomenon to your advantage when it's hot. Just wet a fabric and wrap it around your body/head/feet. I love to do that in summer because we don't always have AC here in Finland. It doesn't work that effectively when the moisture of the air is so high that the fabric dries too slowly.

  • @user-dg3io4px6n
    @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like how the suomi guy sed Arkansas. Sounds way better then what the English speaker sed even despite being cold arkansas was sed better in suomi

  • @James-ke5sx
    @James-ke5sx 5 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent training from the best. Looks like somebody brought a Esee 6. It's best to use the sharpened spine.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan 5 месяцев назад +1

      i recommend varusteleka jääkäri-puukko (they ship internationally)

    • @James-ke5sx
      @James-ke5sx 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@zoolkhan A Puuko is a Bushcraft knife, Esee is a Survival knife. A Scandi grind is too brittle to be used in a war zone. The Edge is extremely fine and is excellent for doing fine Bushcraft but if you are opening tin cans and trying to dig land lines out of the ground Etc you need something more robust.

    • @Hnkka
      @Hnkka 5 месяцев назад

      Sissipuukko m95 is also great@an

  • @jarmopaakkonen2045
    @jarmopaakkonen2045 4 месяца назад

    They were just having fun,when does the training start?🤨

  • @Maria_KL
    @Maria_KL 5 месяцев назад

    Superbly!! 👍🇫🇮🤝💪

  • @stoner84x
    @stoner84x 5 месяцев назад

    At 4,40 or so it's cold but yeah that's what we do👍🏻

  • @Redfizh
    @Redfizh 5 месяцев назад +7

    I've heard some russian didn't have socks in their boots.

    • @ArchitectB
      @ArchitectB 5 месяцев назад +4

      That is a grave mistake. Wearing the right kind of clothing in proper order is the most important. Socks are both for insulation and ventilation. Your feet breath better with socks, as long as socks stay dry.

    • @Redfizh
      @Redfizh 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@ArchitectB Also rubber boots without internal lining is nearly as bad as having boots made of steel. Rubber is so fast heat conductor that it's better to have no boots at all.

    • @xYarbx
      @xYarbx 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@Redfizh you don't want to have internal lining because if you fall thru the ice or sweat enough it's really hard to get rid of the moisture especially when camping but with socks you can always just pull the wet ones off and swap them to dry ones. Take a look at specific heat conductivity of rubber it's one of the better ones that is pliable enough to make clothing out of.

    • @Exiletheheretic
      @Exiletheheretic 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@xYarbxThe finnish military gear actually has removable felt lining just for this. You can swap for dry ones if needed. All the tents also have fireplaces to get the gear nice and dry during night time.

    • @xYarbx
      @xYarbx 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@Exiletheheretic I know, but they were not specifically talked about and before we had them we used wool socks and feet rags did the job just fine. The person talking about how bad wellies are obviously wasn't from Finnish army so I had to correct him.

  • @alainchiaroni5149
    @alainchiaroni5149 5 месяцев назад

    -20 ? What a joke! We had several weeks between -15 and -25 in Helsinki which is extreme south of the country. In the center and the north between -30 and -45.
    At the time these soldiers trained in Lapland -34.

  • @user-dg3io4px6n
    @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад +3

    I love finland and sweden my two favorite countries in Europe. And the twins of europe. Are they still considered the twins of europe? Idk how many if any at all call them that over their.

    • @mussalo
      @mussalo 5 месяцев назад +1

      Finn here. Never heard of twins reference, but brothers for sure!
      I believe Swedes thinks us as their little brother due to our history, but I let a Swede to verify that..

    • @user-dg3io4px6n
      @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад

      @@mussalohellyeah dude. right dude?, wonder what Sweden would think of being call finlands twin that be interesting to hear from a Swedish person.

    • @user-dg3io4px6n
      @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад

      @@mussalo im also in the middle of processing my passport so i can go see what finland and swedens like but im going to finland first before sweden. I want to get citizenship for finland and sweden.

    • @user-dg3io4px6n
      @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад

      @@mussalo Muonio, finland sounds like a nice place to settle down and stuff.

    • @user-dg3io4px6n
      @user-dg3io4px6n 5 месяцев назад

      @@mussalo would love to visit my favorite metals bands hometown espoo, finland. Would also love to visit my favorite swedish metal bands hometown as well Halmstad, Sweden. You could most like easily guess what bands im probably talking bout. I got some old suomi and swedish metal bands i like as well that are from the 80s and 90s other then the reference to the two i mentioned.

  • @454FatJack
    @454FatJack 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just as in Alaska❤

  • @juhajuntunen7866
    @juhajuntunen7866 5 месяцев назад +2

    How to survive in cold? Stay warm.

  • @lainezilla
    @lainezilla 5 месяцев назад

    When you finaly get that fire in your campfire, then enemies drones see that smokes, and then your campfire sings your suicide. 🤔🤐

  • @prkeledjovain8449
    @prkeledjovain8449 5 месяцев назад +2

    where you can get this full white suits they use?

    • @tortzka
      @tortzka 5 месяцев назад +8

      Varusteleka

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking 5 месяцев назад +1

    👍🏻🇺🇸✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

  • @tahhah3449
    @tahhah3449 5 месяцев назад

    💪💪💪💪💪

  • @petter5721
    @petter5721 3 месяца назад

    -20C, it’s like Swedish summer 😀

  • @boyinsky7609
    @boyinsky7609 5 месяцев назад

    Muja

  • @giancarlomaster2535
    @giancarlomaster2535 5 месяцев назад

    -20GRADOS IS NOTHING

    • @upnorth2421
      @upnorth2421 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, even here in middle of Finland we had -34⁰c this January. But the principles remains the same.

    • @sandercohen5543
      @sandercohen5543 5 месяцев назад

      Air gets dry above -10, therefore -20 and -30 feels almost the same, for this reason. It's not until you get up to extreme temperatures that it starts causing other, fundamental problems.

    • @RockerFinland
      @RockerFinland 5 месяцев назад +1

      It says: -20 was "regularly". In Finland, there are also -40 days and rarely -50 days. When I served in a military as an active conscript (2010-2011), there were many -40 days. -40 days (dry cold) actually felt much better than -20 days and humid air. Humid air caused more sweat and the sweat froze immediately (caused much more cold).

    • @giancarlomaster2535
      @giancarlomaster2535 5 месяцев назад

      @@RockerFinland nothing i was minus90

    • @RockerFinland
      @RockerFinland 5 месяцев назад

      @@giancarlomaster2535 And Sahara desert +40 is nothing (I've been many times in +100 sauna).

  • @TrymYoutubeMainChannel
    @TrymYoutubeMainChannel 5 месяцев назад

    not sure if it's finland could be norwegian border of Norway sweden Finland but oh well I do know Nordic Response takes place close to my home town

    • @TheAlex29494
      @TheAlex29494 5 месяцев назад +24

      this is 100% finland

    • @thamor4746
      @thamor4746 5 месяцев назад +10

      100% Finland they even got finnish gear on them and speaking english to them meant they weren't finnish soldiers.

    • @Finland-SkiTeam39-40
      @Finland-SkiTeam39-40 5 месяцев назад +12

      This one was in Finland but we Nordics are still the same ;-)

    • @Exiletheheretic
      @Exiletheheretic 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@thamor4746Also the finnish "rally" accent is very easy to spot.

    • @IDDQD_1
      @IDDQD_1 4 месяца назад

      Not sure if this comment is afghanistan or norway iceland but oh i do know that great wall of china takes place close to china. Totally relevant comment to vid

  • @mikaveekoo
    @mikaveekoo 5 месяцев назад

    Natokiimainen Suomi. Fy fan!
    Suomi-neito, joka myi sielunsa lännen paholaiselle. Fy fan!

    • @totomorenodosal
      @totomorenodosal 5 месяцев назад

      y tu te quedaste con el diablo central, pobre alma perdida!

    • @myboysd5772
      @myboysd5772 5 месяцев назад +1

      lääkkeet

    • @RD-qz1fm
      @RD-qz1fm Месяц назад

      Vatnik spotted

    • @mikaveekoo
      @mikaveekoo Месяц назад

      @@RD-qz1fm
      Laps Suomen ällös vaihda pois sun maatas ihanaa...😥