I added acoustic treatments to my room two years ago. Let me tell you it made a bigger difference than anything I have ever done. I think some people think they need to upgrade there equipment but focus on proper speaker placement subwoofer integration and acoustic treatments and I think you will be amazed about how good the equipment you already have sounds!
Definitely 👌🏾 my small scale 5.1 home cinema isn't quite finished. But I've noticed a big difference in sound quality with the absorbers and diffusers I've already installed. Just waiting till April here in the UK to finish it off with a Sony A90J OLED tv. Can't wait 😁
Only because Anthony said, “20 minutes have passes,” “fifty minutes have passes.” I was deep in their conversation. Not even in medical, did time pass so fast. I loved this video. I can’t wait to find the other videos!
Wow! Thank you so much for having Anthony Grimani as a guest! I litterly learned more watching this video than I have in the past year. There is just so much confusion out there on this subject. He made it clear. Thanks again
Such a pleasurable and satisfying experience, as a newcomer to this hobby, to sit and listen to the combined insights of a storied career and countless hours of investigation and human study.
Thanks for having an audio channel that has its feet fully planted in the new Millennium. Psychoacoustics and acoustics generally are so important. Bose made a living taking advantage of the fact that we hear with out brains. I'll take these discussions any day over Fremer's return to the '50s. I was there for that. It wasn't great.
Maybe I missed this part in the presentation, but how do we use something like REW to actually measure the room and see whether or not we need these treatments? I've seen videos about the mirror trick for reflection points etc , but ultimately to the untrained ear, how can we use software to tell us or show us what we may not recognise as a problem? We have to realize that if the room sounded good to us before (because we couldn't tell the difference), than we would need something else to show us these problems. Maybe someone like Anthony could walk in and hear the problems right away, but the average homeowner may not recognise these things as problems. It would be good to have an explanation of how we can use tools like REW (or whatever else) to actually assess the room and then figure out IF and where we need treaments.
Definitely the Audio Avengers here! Good job not only passing along the knowledge but also continuing to care about what the subscribers want out of all of this.
Back in the late 90's early 2000's I helped some friends of mine put together a low/no budget rehearsal/recording studio for their band. I had construction experience so it was up to me to build it. We had the building, a stand alone garage built back in the 1930's with 10' ceiling. After insulating the walls and hanging 5/8" drywall which is all the landlord was willing to pay for we needed to get creative with sound treatments. Not to far from the studio there was an industrial building that was being remodeled for new tenants and they where ripping out a grip of new T-bar ceiling acoustic tiles and 1/4" rubber backed carpet squares that the previous tenants had installed just before going bankrupt. They where throwing all of this stuff away so I helped myself to as much as I could. We used the carpet squares to cover the floor and glued the acoustic tiles to the walls two layers thick. Then we cut a bunch of the tiles into pieces that we stacked about 6 or 7 tiles high that formed a four sided pyramid that we glued together and attached to the ceiling in a checkerboard pattern. Next I found this carpet shop that installed carpet. The carpet as usual came in rolls that had at the center a thick cardboard tube that was discarded after the carpet was installed. This place was doing a lot of business so they had a lot of these cardboard tubes laying out by the trash cans so I helped myself to a bunch of them. We took these tubes and ripped them in half on my band saw so they where half rounds that we then attached to firing strips that we screwed to the walls every two feet. We would put 4 to 5 of these carpet tubes in a row and the a space. The ratio of tubes to spaces where always varied in size as to achieve what you where calling binaural dissimilarity, something I was aware of and practiced in setting up my own systems but ran into a lot of resistance from others when I would try and explain it. In the spaces between these carpet tube panels I hung strips of mass loaded vinyl that I found being thrown away at a manufacturing facility that used them as coverings over their doorways to keep the buildings refrigerated atmosphere from escaping out the open doorways while not inhibiting the forklifts going in and out of the building round the clock. I'm talking about clear plastic strips about 5" wide and in this case 9' long and about 1/4" thick and quite heavy. We weren't overly concerned about aesthetics but things didn't look to bad and the acoustics in this room ended up sounding as good as any professional studio. So in the end we where able to sound treat this room for the cost of some tubes of adhesive and a few boxes of screws and the time it took to do it. Granted we where lucky to find the things we did when we did.
This was extremely wonderful conversation. Haven’t heard such an engaging talk in today’s era. We would surely would like to get in touch with you. Kindly guide us through the process of approaching you guys.
Now I simply have to stay up late again and watch this because I will not be able to pull me self away now I know this video is up! Perfect timing for me after looking so much at acoustics lately and Anthony covers it the best!
Alright, ya guys finally broke me! After trying to re-tune my system I found some problems I just could not fix. It's gotta be the room causing this, I know I have an echo so I finally broke down and ordered some bass traps for the corners and some thick acoustic panels for the walls and ceiling. Just for quick and dirty testing I hung up some thick bed blankets on the walls and sure enough, big difference! So I felt confident spending more than a few bucks on some actual panels that will look a whole lot nicer then some bed sheets lol. Cheers 🍻.
Best video and what I've been telling friends for a few years now. Speaker room integration/interaction is key. Cables, equipment, and amps are truly the least concern although amp and speakers should be a good match due to dynamic impedance swings and speaker efficiency differences.
I'd like to hear about both topics (bass absorption and diffusion). But I am more interested in diffusers. Different types of diffusion, use cases for the different types and figuring out what types to use. Either way great stuff! Looking forward to hear more! If anyone is interested to hear more of Anthony Girmani talk about home theater stuff, check out AVPro Edge's RUclips channel. They had him on for dozens of two hour lectures covering just about everything on home theaters.
Great presentation. Not all of us can afford a dedicated home theater/listening room. Could you ask Tony about treating a home theater which is located in a great room? In my situation, wall on left side and no wall on right side (opens to dining room).
A lot of rooms are designed like that...just use a little common sense ...use first reflection points to assist , I think high frequency sounds can go far... (I’m just a hobbiest)
I went in an anechoic chamber they have at the University of Kentucky. It was very uncomfortable experience not having any reflected sound. I was so happy to leave that room.
I see people spending 10K+ on cables and it they think it will fix their room accoustics. I have seen rooms over treated where it sounds horrible. Bass Traps are a must and carpet on a wood floor helps with first order reflections etc.. Good Info!
Great video guys. It's funny, when I have gone out and auditioned equipment I have noticed the hifi stores often over do the absorption and the listening room sounds dead. The music sounds odd and I must say the music in my room at home sounds much better. They have millions of dollars of high end equipment in there and don't realise they are making the gear sound average. Its a wonder they sell anything. From what I've gathered here there is a formula and reflection is the key.
Very interesting presentation. What about combining esthetics and sound absorption/deflection:dampening the old fashion way by placing on and along walls different size pictures and furniture like wall cabinets, and experiment by mowing them around until the sweet spot is located? Newest AVR are equipped with the software that “adjusts the sound according to the listening room and speakers therefore creating clearer sound by suppressing the standing waves that occur between walls or ceiling and floor.”
Thank you for this precious sharing! Technical enough to grasp concepts. A question for you, since the listening room and his environment are so important, why so many shops, also with hi-fi recognized products, doesn’t put them in a good, prepared room, instead of a simple shelf inside the shop, the maximum correctors are a thin carpet and an harmchair?
This is awesome information- if you can afford to put it into use. My biggest concern is preventing the people in the neighborhood from pounding on my door at 8pm and complaining that it's "too damn loud." This has already happened, and I fear they will be calling the local police next time.
This is prime viewing, thank you for the valuable information, I have a problem my room I’m building is very small, 3.6 mtr x 2.8 mtr and ceiling height of 2.4 mtrs, I hope this achievable with some good sounds traps.
Guys, I have to say you've spoiled it for me, and I mean it in both a good way and a bad way :) A great video indeed, a wealth of knowledge - thank you. I always knew room treatment is important for best sound, but I didn't know how important. Now I know that no speaker will sound great in my small (20 m sq. / 215 ft sq.) room, and indeed they don't sound great, even though I used to think they do! I wanted to DIY a really good set of speakers, but now I doubt there's any point.
Thanks! A suggestion for further topics: Speakers and dispersions patterns, how do they play into this? Cardioids, dipoles, horns, waveguide tweeters, omnipolars, all that stuff.
This is great just need to find out how to deal with the overseas timeslots, watching from Norway..... keep up the good work Gene What you do is like having access to a goldmine of knowledge :-))
This is very good. It made me feel good in the sense that ot reminded me of Th HAA courses and THX and other i took back in the day. Mostly it is still the same. Perhaps the asymetric treatments placement is maybe where i don’t completely agree. I did try that in my showroom many years back and did not think it was any better but i could have missed, of course. Manybthanks for the video.
Well my room is 17' wide, 23' long (left side) 14' long (right side) and has 13' vaulted ceilings. I am using identical tower speakers (Infinity P363) on all channels and am making sure that they are all far enough away for proper driver integration. I'll be able to do 5.1 + wides so 7.1 total. I will treat as described here and do speaker layout and calibration as described here. It will be a dedicated room even though the room is somewhat open to the kitchen. Hopefully the big speakers aren't a problem in a 3200 cubic foot room. Only one way to know.
Wonderful presentation and products - loved the floor pit, to absorb the first floor refection point ! I’ll be building a massive dedicated listening room in a 16’ (H) x 26’ (W) x 60’ (L) basement. Will likely be contacting you, Anthony, for ceiling treatment ideas 👊🏻
Fantastic Video! Any chance of a diagram or more detailed information of the curtain discussed at the 1 hour and 4 minute mark of the video? That is a device that is sorely needed in my room. Thank you in advance. I'm a little unclear of the layer stack of the curtain.
I will be starting my dedicated theater in my basement and will be building all my sound absorption and diffusers and advice when designing/ building them?
Question, please. Can you use painting in your theater? Is the painted surface a negative? what type of paint should be used to perform best? I paint and build all my canvas frame for my fabric.?
Thanks for the great series!! Had a quick question. Do these tips work (generally) for all size rooms? I am converting a 10'x10'x19' garage and need to know if this 15% absorption, 20% Diffusion is correct thing to do.
Anthony/Gene, how do you deal with vaulted ceilings for absorption/diffusers? Obviously quite different than flat ceiling and how the sound acts on it is it not? I don't know if Anthony is still checking these for comments, so maybe you could ask him about this. Thanks.
Hi Gene! You can bring your messurement stuff with you when you visit me in southern Sweden👍🏼 Best regards from Sweden😀 I have onley absorber in my room! My hometheater contents in the front B&W 702 s2 and the 3 way center 71 s2 and 2 svs sb2000 pro, surround Dali speakers and atmos is svs prime elevation! And to get some sound out of the speakers i have a Onkyo rz840 and for the front the Emotiva xpa-dr3. Looking forward to se you over a cup of koffe while messuring! And b.t.w keep listening😀👍🏼
Thanks for this. I have a question: I have a plaster wall but behind this is 10cm (4inches) of rockwool. Does that mean that my walls are absorbing the sound, or i the sound still reflected off the plaster wall?
Hi Gene Great and very important topic covered in your forum by Anthony Grimani. This was very much beneficial. Thank you One question please, Can we place absorbers on front wall behind main front tower speakers? I m using Mirage OMD15 omnidirectional all towers for fronts n rear. Thanks and regards Joe Vaz
You must have symmetry to have proper center image. And your example picture the front wall is completely empy. That is the most important wall to treat. Small rooms I don't even bother diffusion. To know how sound works it is very easy. If you have symmetrical room and speaker setup it is very important to treat the room the same way. Another center speaker is just that what you want. Proper locked center image.
I’m wondering. This is all good for listening, monitoring and mixing. Would it be better to have a dead studio or as dead as possible while recording? I’m currently making a studio set.
@@Audioholics he needs to come to Perth Australia there's no one doing it here. Very small population! Gene what's your favourite Genesis album? Have you seen on RUclips genesis - live at the lyceum 80? I was there at one of the shows :)
@@Audioholics great album! Ripples may be my favourite song by genesis. I like the lamb! There's an illustrated version on RUclips if you haven't seen already! Yes it is quite said to see Phil Collins struggling hitting some notes. I saw him perform a few years ago as Phil Collins and his voice was a lot stronger. Though, he did still sit down, but did manage a drum solo of sorts on boxes, with his son (17 yrs old at the time) and I think another percussionist. I would upload some footage if it was allowed on RUclips 😀
@@realguyoz yea Second's Out was their best live album, IMHO. Also.loved Wind&Wuthering. I can't watch Phil like he is now. His son Nic is mediocre on drums, definitely not as good as Simon. End of an Era of one of the best prog rock bands of all time....
Lots of info. Sophisticated materials/designs. Please describe in details "ideal sound(s)." Hey--that a demo comparing various speakers with direct wire found sound indistinguishable from the wire version! Great. 2. Local auditorium is a serious theater routinely overblasted by volume settings to please the artists on stage BUT destroying sound, giving echoes, distortion, thumps against the chest with volume. Good system controlled by chimps.
Definitely do use PPE when working with materials. Many chemicals you can look up the recommended protections. Fiberglass and glues often need protection. They're not going to give you diabetes though.
Hi guys. I just moved into a place where I have a room which is more like an attic. A portion of the ceiling is slanted and the dimensions are not that impressive: 4,47m length - 3m width, 2m height (1.60m until the ceiling starts to slant ). I have placed my mixing desk on the long wall, because it's the only one bare and because on the right side wall is a window. Could you, guys, give some tips for treating this kind of room?
1:13. What’s the difference? I think it’s not so much a test of the room, but how the speaker works in the room. Dipole vs open baffle vs vented vs unvented vs horn AND speaker placement all sound different even in an acoustically optimized room. No?
After a long search and viewing a lot of nonsense stories I finally stumbled across this channel with quite some decent info👍👍👍
I added acoustic treatments to my room two years ago. Let me tell you it made a bigger difference than anything I have ever done. I think some people think they need to upgrade there equipment but focus on proper speaker placement subwoofer integration and acoustic treatments and I think you will be amazed about how good the equipment you already have sounds!
Definitely 👌🏾 my small scale 5.1 home cinema isn't quite finished.
But I've noticed a big difference in sound quality with the absorbers and diffusers I've already installed.
Just waiting till April here in the UK to finish it off with a Sony A90J OLED tv. Can't wait 😁
I totally agree! I learned this lesson the hard way and spent way too much money on AV gear before I went to treatment.
Same here.
This was an absolute treasure trove of acoustic knowledge!! A.G. is such a brilliant man. Cheers 🍻 for this.
One of the BEST Audioholics videos ever made! Incredible insight and detailed information that I’ve never heard on any other channel 👍👍
Only because Anthony said, “20 minutes have passes,” “fifty minutes have passes.” I was deep in their conversation. Not even in medical, did time pass so fast. I loved this video. I can’t wait to find the other videos!
These videos with Anthony are gold, definitely going to be referring back to them for years to come
I can listen to Anthony all day every day! Looking forward to hear even more, it’s fun too!:)
Wow! Thank you so much for having Anthony Grimani as a guest! I litterly learned more watching this video than I have in the past year. There is just so much confusion out there on this subject. He made it clear. Thanks again
Such a pleasurable and satisfying experience, as a newcomer to this hobby, to sit and listen to the combined insights of a storied career and countless hours of investigation and human study.
Great stuff guys, massive insights from epic experience, offered so authenticity. Thank you.
Best explanation of room treatment for homecinemas I found. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having an audio channel that has its feet fully planted in the new Millennium. Psychoacoustics and acoustics generally are so important. Bose made a living taking advantage of the fact that we hear with out brains. I'll take these discussions any day over Fremer's return to the '50s. I was there for that. It wasn't great.
Some of the Best content I have seen on here, watched Anthony episodes on home theatre geeks many many times
Maybe I missed this part in the presentation, but how do we use something like REW to actually measure the room and see whether or not we need these treatments? I've seen videos about the mirror trick for reflection points etc , but ultimately to the untrained ear, how can we use software to tell us or show us what we may not recognise as a problem? We have to realize that if the room sounded good to us before (because we couldn't tell the difference), than we would need something else to show us these problems. Maybe someone like Anthony could walk in and hear the problems right away, but the average homeowner may not recognise these things as problems. It would be good to have an explanation of how we can use tools like REW (or whatever else) to actually assess the room and then figure out IF and where we need treaments.
Definitely the Audio Avengers here! Good job not only passing along the knowledge but also continuing to care about what the subscribers want out of all of this.
This was a great video. This is why I'm audiohaulic all the way. This channel never missed guys
This is gold! Keep up the good job!
Back in the late 90's early 2000's I helped some friends of mine put together a low/no budget rehearsal/recording studio for their band. I had construction experience so it was up to me to build it. We had the building, a stand alone garage built back in the 1930's with 10' ceiling. After insulating the walls and hanging 5/8" drywall which is all the landlord was willing to pay for we needed to get creative with sound treatments. Not to far from the studio there was an industrial building that was being remodeled for new tenants and they where ripping out a grip of new T-bar ceiling acoustic tiles and 1/4" rubber backed carpet squares that the previous tenants had installed just before going bankrupt. They where throwing all of this stuff away so I helped myself to as much as I could. We used the carpet squares to cover the floor and glued the acoustic tiles to the walls two layers thick. Then we cut a bunch of the tiles into pieces that we stacked about 6 or 7 tiles high that formed a four sided pyramid that we glued together and attached to the ceiling in a checkerboard pattern.
Next I found this carpet shop that installed carpet. The carpet as usual came in rolls that had at the center a thick cardboard tube that was discarded after the carpet was installed. This place was doing a lot of business so they had a lot of these cardboard tubes laying out by the trash cans so I helped myself to a bunch of them. We took these tubes and ripped them in half on my band saw so they where half rounds that we then attached to firing strips that we screwed to the walls every two feet. We would put 4 to 5 of these carpet tubes in a row and the a space. The ratio of tubes to spaces where always varied in size as to achieve what you where calling binaural dissimilarity, something I was aware of and practiced in setting up my own systems but ran into a lot of resistance from others when I would try and explain it. In the spaces between these carpet tube panels I hung strips of mass loaded vinyl that I found being thrown away at a manufacturing facility that used them as coverings over their doorways to keep the buildings refrigerated atmosphere from escaping out the open doorways while not inhibiting the forklifts going in and out of the building round the clock. I'm talking about clear plastic strips about 5" wide and in this case 9' long and about 1/4" thick and quite heavy. We weren't overly concerned about aesthetics but things didn't look to bad and the acoustics in this room ended up sounding as good as any professional studio. So in the end we where able to sound treat this room for the cost of some tubes of adhesive and a few boxes of screws and the time it took to do it. Granted we where lucky to find the things we did when we did.
Thank you for chapters
This was extremely wonderful conversation. Haven’t heard such an engaging talk in today’s era. We would surely would like to get in touch with you. Kindly guide us through the process of approaching you guys.
This is so cool, thank you to all. You guys really connected the dots for me
Great presentation. Patiently waiting for the next installment of info.
This is a good one. Thank you guys. My choice of topic is ‘Diffusers’ for the next week.
Now I simply have to stay up late again and watch this because I will not be able to pull me self away now I know this video is up!
Perfect timing for me after looking so much at acoustics lately and Anthony covers it the best!
Alright, ya guys finally broke me! After trying to re-tune my system I found some problems I just could not fix. It's gotta be the room causing this, I know I have an echo so I finally broke down and ordered some bass traps for the corners and some thick acoustic panels for the walls and ceiling. Just for quick and dirty testing I hung up some thick bed blankets on the walls and sure enough, big difference! So I felt confident spending more than a few bucks on some actual panels that will look a whole lot nicer then some bed sheets lol.
Cheers 🍻.
Best video and what I've been telling friends for a few years now. Speaker room integration/interaction is key. Cables, equipment, and amps are truly the least concern although amp and speakers should be a good match due to dynamic impedance swings and speaker efficiency differences.
Wow this inspires me to rethink my room treatment.
Awesome stuff. And look forward to the next vid
I'd like to hear about both topics (bass absorption and diffusion). But I am more interested in diffusers. Different types of diffusion, use cases for the different types and figuring out what types to use.
Either way great stuff! Looking forward to hear more!
If anyone is interested to hear more of Anthony Girmani talk about home theater stuff, check out AVPro Edge's RUclips channel. They had him on for dozens of two hour lectures covering just about everything on home theaters.
I've been subscribed to AVPro Edge RUclips channel for a couple of years. Some helpful videos on there.
Absolutely loved this stuff. Gold Jerry, gold
One vote for Bass trappings
Anthony I'm really hoping and waiting for a minimum 2 hour session on REW from you
Lot of good information here. I appreciate where I can pick up panels from and from a reputable source.
I've been working with ATS acoustics, great company
Great presentation. Not all of us can afford a dedicated home theater/listening room. Could you ask Tony about treating a home theater which is located in a great room? In my situation, wall on left side and no wall on right side (opens to dining room).
A lot of rooms are designed like that...just use a little common sense ...use first reflection points to assist , I think high frequency sounds can go far... (I’m just a hobbiest)
I went in an anechoic chamber they have at the University of Kentucky. It was very uncomfortable experience not having any reflected sound. I was so happy to leave that room.
Great session!! Well done folks!!!
I added (77'' high) wainscotting in my 19x16 great room and I didn't think about it's impact to the sound and it has definitely helped
Excellent information guys
I see people spending 10K+ on cables and it they think it will fix their room accoustics. I have seen rooms over treated where it sounds horrible. Bass Traps are a must and carpet on a wood floor helps with first order reflections etc.. Good Info!
Exellent. High-end information I like to call your videos and talks, thank you so much!
Hi. Did Anthony remember the name of the brand of stretch fabric he wanted to reccomend?
Great series Gene, Anthony is a legend.
Great video guys. It's funny, when I have gone out and auditioned equipment I have noticed the hifi stores often over do the absorption and the listening room sounds dead. The music sounds odd and I must say the music in my room at home sounds much better. They have millions of dollars of high end equipment in there and don't realise they are making the gear sound average. Its a wonder they sell anything. From what I've gathered here there is a formula and reflection is the key.
Very interesting presentation.
What about combining esthetics and sound absorption/deflection:dampening the old fashion way by placing on and along walls different size pictures and furniture like wall cabinets, and experiment by mowing them around until the sweet spot is located?
Newest AVR are equipped with the software that “adjusts the sound according to the listening room and speakers therefore creating clearer sound by suppressing the standing waves that occur between walls or ceiling and floor.”
Thank you for this precious sharing! Technical enough to grasp concepts. A question for you, since the listening room and his environment are so important, why so many shops, also with hi-fi recognized products, doesn’t put them in a good, prepared room, instead of a simple shelf inside the shop, the maximum correctors are a thin carpet and an harmchair?
This is awesome information- if you can afford to put it into use. My biggest concern is preventing the people in the neighborhood from pounding on my door at 8pm and complaining that it's "too damn loud." This has already happened, and I fear they will be calling the local police next time.
Incredible information. Thank you guys very much.
This is prime viewing, thank you for the valuable information,
I have a problem my room I’m building is very small, 3.6 mtr x 2.8 mtr and ceiling height of 2.4 mtrs, I hope this achievable with some good sounds traps.
Guys, I have to say you've spoiled it for me, and I mean it in both a good way and a bad way :) A great video indeed, a wealth of knowledge - thank you.
I always knew room treatment is important for best sound, but I didn't know how important. Now I know that no speaker will sound great in my small (20 m sq. / 215 ft sq.) room, and indeed they don't sound great, even though I used to think they do! I wanted to DIY a really good set of speakers, but now I doubt there's any point.
Thanks! A suggestion for further topics: Speakers and dispersions patterns, how do they play into this? Cardioids, dipoles, horns, waveguide tweeters, omnipolars, all that stuff.
This is great just need to find out how to deal with the overseas timeslots, watching from Norway..... keep up the good work Gene
What you do is like having access to a goldmine of knowledge :-))
Diffusion for next week please. Thanks.
This is gold for me! Thank you
Great presentation... helpful because this topic is really complex... thanks
This is very good. It made me feel good in the sense that ot reminded me of Th HAA courses and THX and other i took back in the day. Mostly it is still the same. Perhaps the asymetric treatments placement is maybe where i don’t completely agree. I did try that in my showroom many years back and did not think it was any better but i could have missed, of course. Manybthanks for the video.
Well my room is 17' wide, 23' long (left side) 14' long (right side) and has 13' vaulted ceilings. I am using identical tower speakers (Infinity P363) on all channels and am making sure that they are all far enough away for proper driver integration. I'll be able to do 5.1 + wides so 7.1 total. I will treat as described here and do speaker layout and calibration as described here. It will be a dedicated room even though the room is somewhat open to the kitchen. Hopefully the big speakers aren't a problem in a 3200 cubic foot room. Only one way to know.
I have a similar sized room with 30 foot vaulted ceilings. Have done your acoustic treatments? And if so what did you use?
Wonderful presentation and products - loved the floor pit, to absorb the first floor refection point ! I’ll be building a massive dedicated listening room in a 16’ (H) x 26’ (W) x 60’ (L) basement. Will likely be contacting you, Anthony, for ceiling treatment ideas 👊🏻
Can you please advise the best material to use for DIY absorption panels?
Amazing presentation. Really great stuff guys
Great video. I'd like to see scattering next, then bass traps.
Great video guys! Gene, I'm having trouble hearing you!
Well done Tony! (as always!) You are doing good things for our industry, and you are appreciated!
Fantastic Video! Any chance of a diagram or more detailed information of the curtain discussed at the 1 hour and 4 minute mark of the video? That is a device that is sorely needed in my room. Thank you in advance. I'm a little unclear of the layer stack of the curtain.
Most enjoyable and informative. Thank you for sharing
About DIFFUSERS...is it true that one doesn't need them in rear walls if your listening position is LESS than 6 feet from the rear wall?
I will be starting my dedicated theater in my basement and will be building all my sound absorption and diffusers and advice when designing/ building them?
Love you guys! Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Question, please. Can you use painting in your theater? Is the painted surface a negative? what type of paint should be used to perform best?
I paint and build all my canvas frame for my fabric.?
Awesome information!
Thank you Mr Grimani. I need a tee shirt made now which says "Grimani".
Thanks for the great series!! Had a quick question.
Do these tips work (generally) for all size rooms? I am converting a 10'x10'x19' garage and need to know if this 15% absorption, 20% Diffusion is correct thing to do.
Anthony/Gene, how do you deal with vaulted ceilings for absorption/diffusers? Obviously quite different than flat ceiling and how the sound acts on it is it not? I don't know if Anthony is still checking these for comments, so maybe you could ask him about this. Thanks.
Hi Gene! You can bring your messurement stuff with you when you visit me in southern Sweden👍🏼 Best regards from Sweden😀 I have onley absorber in my room! My hometheater contents in the front B&W 702 s2 and the 3 way center 71 s2 and 2 svs sb2000 pro, surround Dali speakers and atmos is svs prime elevation! And to get some sound out of the speakers i have a Onkyo rz840 and for the front the Emotiva xpa-dr3. Looking forward to se you over a cup of koffe while messuring! And b.t.w keep listening😀👍🏼
When to use absorption vs diffusion? What do you think about the "dead backwall" mantra?
Absorption behind listener if seats are within a few feet, diffusion/absorption for greater distances.
Fascinating! I love this.
Thanks for this. I have a question: I have a plaster wall but behind this is 10cm (4inches) of rockwool. Does that mean that my walls are absorbing the sound, or i the sound still reflected off the plaster wall?
Hi Gene
Great and very important topic covered in your forum by Anthony Grimani. This was very much beneficial. Thank you
One question please, Can we place absorbers on front wall behind main front tower speakers? I m using Mirage OMD15 omnidirectional all towers for fronts n rear.
Thanks and regards
Joe Vaz
Keep these going especially with the samples shown
What's the best way to treat a tall ceiling over a solid hardwood floor?
You must have symmetry to have proper center image. And your example picture the front wall is completely empy. That is the most important wall to treat. Small rooms I don't even bother diffusion. To know how sound works it is very easy. If you have symmetrical room and speaker setup it is very important to treat the room the same way. Another center speaker is just that what you want. Proper locked center image.
1hr 17min Don I'm not trying to blow smoke but Grimaldi is a rock God! I'm pretty sure he means Anthony Grimani - ease up on the Bourbon.
I attend some courses with Anthony he is a wonderful person... If I am going to use rock wool as absorption what is the right density?
I want it to be thursday NOW! Great episode :D
Thank you as always, great show!
I would try to make some large art-work on canvas, use a very thick frame, and just hide the absorbers inside
I’m wondering. This is all good for listening, monitoring and mixing. Would it be better to have a dead studio or as dead as possible while recording? I’m currently making a studio set.
Mr Grimani says to use a 2d diffuser up front and a 3D diffuser in the rear. Why so?
Awe come on, stopped before low frequency absorption. That's my vote.
Great information!
thx for the info super and dali.'s sound great Low frequency absorbing pls next topic
Excellent! I wish I had access to someone's brain like Mr. Grimani's here in Australia.
He travels
@@Audioholics he needs to come to Perth Australia there's no one doing it here. Very small population!
Gene what's your favourite Genesis album? Have you seen on RUclips genesis - live at the lyceum 80? I was there at one of the shows :)
@@realguyoz probably Trick of the Tail. Very cool man. So sad to see Phil's health deteriorstrd now ,:(
@@Audioholics great album! Ripples may be my favourite song by genesis.
I like the lamb! There's an illustrated version on RUclips if you haven't seen already!
Yes it is quite said to see Phil Collins struggling hitting some notes.
I saw him perform a few years ago as Phil Collins and his voice was a lot stronger. Though, he did still sit down, but did manage a drum solo of sorts on boxes, with his son (17 yrs old at the time) and I think another percussionist.
I would upload some footage if it was allowed on RUclips 😀
@@realguyoz yea Second's Out was their best live album, IMHO. Also.loved Wind&Wuthering. I can't watch Phil like he is now. His son Nic is mediocre on drums, definitely not as good as Simon. End of an Era of one of the best prog rock bands of all time....
Lots of info. Sophisticated materials/designs. Please describe in details "ideal sound(s)." Hey--that a demo comparing various speakers with direct wire found sound indistinguishable from the wire version! Great. 2. Local auditorium is a serious theater routinely overblasted by volume settings to please the artists on stage BUT destroying sound, giving echoes, distortion, thumps against the chest with volume. Good system controlled by chimps.
Why do everyone seem to ignore that most rooms actually have windows ???
Definitely do use PPE when working with materials. Many chemicals you can look up the recommended protections. Fiberglass and glues often need protection. They're not going to give you diabetes though.
Great show guys ...... what about suspended ceiling when you have no choices....... I am building in basement and need access . Snifffff
45 minutes in and I have a question. If your Theater room has windows, what's the best was to sound-proof them?
this was fantastic -- great advice
This video is so amazing
Hi guys. I just moved into a place where I have a room which is more like an attic. A portion of the ceiling is slanted and the dimensions are not that impressive: 4,47m length - 3m width, 2m height (1.60m until the ceiling starts to slant ). I have placed my mixing desk on the long wall, because it's the only one bare and because on the right side wall is a window. Could you, guys, give some tips for treating this kind of room?
he talked about 30~50% floor of carpet?but I checked his cedia demo room its still covered the whole room?any explination?thank you
1:13. What’s the difference? I think it’s not so much a test of the room, but how the speaker works in the room. Dipole vs open baffle vs vented vs unvented vs horn AND speaker placement all sound different even in an acoustically optimized room. No?
Very insightful!!!
Another excellent useful video.