Episode 95: Jonathan Pageau and Spencer Klavan: God, Dante, Jordan Peterson and How to Save the West
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2023
- Welcome to More Christ. We seek to bring some of the world's most interesting and insightful guests to discuss life's central and abiding questions.
In this ninety fifth episode in a series of discussions, I'm joined once more by Jonathan Pageau and Dr Spencer Klavan.
Jonathan carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images. He also designs products, teaches, and makes fantastic videos for The Symbolic World that explore how ancient patterns can re-enchant our contemporary life.
Please check out Jonathan's channel:
/ jonathanpageau
With a PhD in Classics, Spencer Klavan has recently been snapped up by The Daily Wire. He is the assistant editor of The Claremont Review of Books and The American Mind at the Claremont Institute.
Spencer's literary expertise is aided by his knowledge of many languages, including Ancient Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. As a scholar who enjoys exploring how great works of literature provide valuable insights into today's world, Klavan hosts Young Heretics every Tuesday.
Please see his website and some of his excellent articles, here:
youngheretics.com/
claremontreviewofbooks.com/au...
www.dailywire.com/author/spen...
What a gracious host
Jonathan Pageau AND Spencer Klavan?! These are two of my favorite people on the internet. I never thought I'd get to see them together! Thanks!
You genius, you actually did it, as promised. Thank you for bringing these two together!
Another great video. It's certainly interesting to consider how VR could be integrated into our lives in a positive way. Plenty of people don't have the same concerns our corner of the internet seem to have with the next wave of technology. I watched a show this evening where a couple renovated and old Victorian gate lodge and the husband was excited by his new front door that only opens by fingerprint technology. He was saying he wished he could have got one that used a microchip in your wrist but they were too expensive.
What an interesting meander through our times, thank you
You have extremely good book recomendations through the whole videos, thank you for that! You should link to all books in every video in the description 🙏 would be awesome, thanks for this great discussion
Great conversation! I've been enjoying the conversation from Dublin with Pageau Kingsnorth and Shaw here in Winnipeg, Canada - thanks for sharing! Looking forward to watching the Washington conference as well! 😍
Just finished this. Great Conversation!
So incredibly uplifting, more Christ, Amen!
Another gem!
Are you an Orthodox? I’m from England and I’ve been a strong Protestant for quite some time.
Since getting into the symbolic world I’ve noticed most of my favourite people are orthodox.
Just wondering what your thoughts are. Keep up the good work!
A difference in being necessitates symbols to mediate the interaction between the various states of beings.
What do you mean
If there’s one thing I’d love Jonathan to write a book about, it’s this concept of hierarchy inherent in our experience of and interaction with ourselves and the world. Seems to me so important and so little understood anymore
Thanks for this man, loved it
Marcas, not sure if you have already seen it, but there is a fantastic conversation with Bishop Maximus and John Vervaeke that came out a few days ago. I was reminded of it when Jonathan and Spencer were trying to articulate the Trinity. I don’t think I can put the link in here but it is on John Vervaeke’s channel.
Thank you for sharing, Shari! :)
@@MoreChrist are there still tickets available for Dublin in June?
@@shari6063 yes, I haven't put them up for sale yet. I will do this month though. :)
@@MoreChrist I’m dreaming a little……☺️ but who knows. God willing.
I just came from that and now this one popped up. It was a very illuminating talk with the bishop, I’m looking forward to the next one.
Starts with Abraham.
Excellent discussion. Thank you. Was wondering where I could find details of the events talked about in Dublin and London
The London event is live now on Eventbrite. If you have London set for the area and type in Calvin Robinson, it should come up. The Dublin one will be going up soon. :)
I'll try and share the Eventbrite link, here:
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-on-true-conservatism-and-the-christian-faith-tickets-513036876107
@@MoreChrist Thank you
If any of you fine folks want to join us in London in March, tickets are available here, now: www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-on-true-conservatism-and-the-christian-faith-tickets-513036876107
On the symbolizing aspect within the Trinity, see The Mind of the Maker by Dorothy Sayers. We know that the Father begets rather than making the Son. Yet, in our human creations, we see an imperfect analogy of Father, Son and Spirit in the maker, what we make and the making.
58:43... Owen Barfield's 'Final Participation'?
Great piece about the false idol in ai systems that we anthropomorphize
Marcas, you sound like you're from somewhere near me, I'm from Newry.
Yessir. I was born in Newry and raised in South Armagh. :)
Jonathan mentions 2024 as a terrible year. What does he think will happen then?
We can see a reflection of the idea of action without an actor in the prevalence of the passive voice. For instance, 'inmates were given a short, sharp shock.' Once you become aware of it, you notice this type of grammatical slippage everywhere.
Music as "weapons grade emotions"
What’s the opening song?
The title is in the More Christ about section.