The more flashy and beautiful modern gets the better. Because just like old cars old paintings old technology there are collectors who like to see the difference to see how obvious it is that it comes from a different era. That's what vintage art does it brings you back in time so it doesn't take away from it or lessen its value
I think it has to do more with new generations of people/kids. You know your youngest brother who didn't grow up with red or blue version, Pokemon indigo League, Pokemon the first movie. Base set 1. Each new generation is bigger than the last one. Old collectors from the vintage era aren't as big due to many factors. Such as family and life responsibilities. Moved on. Or sad to say......dead. New generations of kids are growing up with gen4 , gen5 ,gen6. So the statistic show that Pokemon has never been bigger and more popular than what it is now. Compared to the past , Pokemon was reaching 1 million people to up to 30 million. Now thanks to things like Pokemon Go being free and in smart phones,(like who in the world doesn't have a smartphone). Reaching billions of people.
Very true take on the "discovery" of vintage. The funny thing is, it has been my experience that many "modern" collectors have yet to discover E-readers, let alone subsequent English sets. So, yes, vending would blow their minds, but I have personally witness a nice stamped reverse cause a great deal of stir.
Before watching the video, I have to say it's the other way around for me. I can't stand modern cards anymore. I only collect vintage cards with a few exceptions of modern cards.
I think among vintage it was more universally interesting to look at. Like basically every card in the WOTC era looked great. Nowadays I would argue some cards look better than ever like the art rates and alternate arts. But some cards nowadays have that lame 3D animation look that to me looks super cheesy. So I think it’s a mixed bag with modern. Like go look up the Umbreon V Alt art from Eevee Heroes (Japanese) or Evolving Skies (English) and tell me that card isn’t incredible.
Vintage is awesome! Sadly a lot of times it’s less liquid than modern. Like some of the game boy promos for instance move a lot slower. Even some of the Masaki cards like the machamp are slow moving
smpratte, you’ve mentioned the Yu Nagaba eevees in passing for a few videos now. I might have missed a video where you might have talked about them in a little more detail, but what’s your take on it? It sold out in like 1.5 days. Current market is around 1K for a set of PSA 10s. It’s sorta following the direction that the eevee ponchos took back when they first came out. I personally like the derpy illustrations and think they’ll do well in the next few years and see a similar growth to a lot of the Japanese exclusive promos that were only released a few years ago. Too much of a hot take?
I would agree with your points. History of anything holds a special place setting the begging of what is to come and vintage Pokemon will always be that. In the same manner, modern will always have its place and create new history that we will reflect on many years later as "vintage".
I still love Black and White - Legendary Treasures. The fun artwork of an alt art was there - even the though the format was still very traditional. Wonka Bar chase cards? Yes.
What about Mid era stuff? Low print numbers and a time where most people had moved on.. but revisting these sets (though extremely expensive) is a treat when you see how pokemon pulled out all the stops to keep the TCG ticking. I'm biased cause I LOVE gold stars and have set goals to try collect some of my favorites. But I could easily see EX collecting or reverse stamp collecting etc.
To me they're both just as fun. If it was only wotc sets, of course, a bit boring. But we have so much cool stuff on the Japanese side, I've been a fan for years and years and there's still things new to me every once in a while, if I were to try to collect everything I would need 5 lives xP
Man that thumbnail hit my soul haha. Ken Sugimori IS Pokemon to me. And its not all old! Look all all the wonderful tag team cards Arita did, as well as those Japan Post promos that have been popping off recently. Modern has some really fun and crazy designs, but I'll take a Sugimori or Arita card over modern 9 times out of 10. (But im old so I get it)
Card collecting is very similar to coin collecting. You start with the modern, and eventually find your way back to ancient Roman. Each step gets more and more interesting.
Im a fan of both. However, the only reason why modern only collectors couldn't give a monkey about vintage is because most likely the card isn't a "full art" and nowadays collectors will view most vintage card's as a regular holo. Yet if Pokemon were to make a full art version of Shining gyarados from Neo rev for example the modern hype dawgs would go insane. There's so many different amazing avenues you can go down when it comes to vintage. I find it strange how anyone can call it boring.
I’d say that only applies to some vintage holos, because everyone and their mom still loves shinings, crystals, and gold stars despite being “half arts.”
Can anyone tell me the name and number of the card that he’s talking about around three minutes? Sounds like a Pikachu underage drinking and having cake lol.
boring? because it was a once in a year set? because arts were focused on the pokemon and not the background? because there were only a few charizard? feel so bad for "modern collectors"
Imo, vintage from base set to neo series are boring, theres barely any cards that have that art, even for its old style and lack of printing machines capable of printing high quality and detail. Imo the best vintage that actually looks good and deserves its vaule from the amazing art is thr heartgold soul silver series.
Moonbreon is not rare at all and very valuable…terrible point. What do you define as valuable ? So many modern cards that are not rare over $50 over $100
@WeyHighDesigns in my opinion Moonbreon is reasonably rare, it's scarcity means there is a lot more people that are trying to acquire it than there is availability. the booster box price is another indication of a few cards inside being rare and or in high demand.
@@BtMo-og2cw there’s over 6000 10’s man. It’s not a rare card. The fact that lots of people want it still just prove your point wrong. There’s tons of them out there and Valuable and high demand.
@WeyHighDesigns saying there are are tons of them ....this may be correct but there is a ton more demand for it. There are millions of Pokemon collectors out there who do not own this card and want it desperately
I think that pop reports are really misleading because it's the very expensive cards that are graded at a very high rate. (The high desired cards get graded more than the less desired ones) just because there are a lot of Moonbreons graded doesn't mean there is more of this card printed....it just means more graded
Nah I think most people get bored of Pokemon cards in general after a while. I hate the modern cards though, wish that the Pokemon company would reprint the vintage sets like Konami does with yugioh... instead of having to pay a fortune for a beat up vintage card!
@@theparalyzedarmy3836 151 has nothing to do with base set btw, its not a literal reprint they never decided to copy and paste a set from 20 years ago. Wish they did that! Also copying the booster box and pack arts with just small adjustment like a 25th stamp on the booster in the corner or a very small identifier on the card (not like the huge celebrations stamp...)
@@Tony_3xl because there are billions and billions of cards produced. Countless PSA 10s of the rare chase cards… Vintage is a time capsule and becomes rarer each year as it’s opened and lost. Those packs can contain anything from a base set Charizard to a gold star Rayquaza. That to me is thrilling.
Scott this looks like a sad attempt to pump vintage after the crash. Modern is just more exciting, it has better artwork, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg that most people can’t afford to deter people from taking a second look at them
You obviously dont know you can pick up almost all wotc 1st edition psa 9 holos for 1/5 of the price of a modern chase card. Modern prices are absolutely sky high right now.
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Scott looking like he left the shoulder pads on
The more flashy and beautiful modern gets the better. Because just like old cars old paintings old technology there are collectors who like to see the difference to see how obvious it is that it comes from a different era. That's what vintage art does it brings you back in time so it doesn't take away from it or lessen its value
I think it has to do more with new generations of people/kids. You know your youngest brother who didn't grow up with red or blue version, Pokemon indigo League, Pokemon the first movie. Base set 1. Each new generation is bigger than the last one. Old collectors from the vintage era aren't as big due to many factors. Such as family and life responsibilities. Moved on. Or sad to say......dead. New generations of kids are growing up with gen4 , gen5 ,gen6. So the statistic show that Pokemon has never been bigger and more popular than what it is now. Compared to the past , Pokemon was reaching 1 million people to up to 30 million. Now thanks to things like Pokemon Go being free and in smart phones,(like who in the world doesn't have a smartphone). Reaching billions of people.
as a collector, vintage offers a lot of amazing goals
Very true take on the "discovery" of vintage. The funny thing is, it has been my experience that many "modern" collectors have yet to discover E-readers, let alone subsequent English sets. So, yes, vending would blow their minds, but I have personally witness a nice stamped reverse cause a great deal of stir.
Bro turns on his video cam, walks away, then walks back to sit down and cuts out the prequel.
Before watching the video, I have to say it's the other way around for me. I can't stand modern cards anymore. I only collect vintage cards with a few exceptions of modern cards.
moonbreon is the most beautiful card ever printed in the history of the pokemon trading card game.
@@dadcanibeagirl get outta here,.
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@@dadcanibeagirlhaha no way. Not even close. Moonbreon is WAY overrated.
I think among vintage it was more universally interesting to look at. Like basically every card in the WOTC era looked great. Nowadays I would argue some cards look better than ever like the art rates and alternate arts. But some cards nowadays have that lame 3D animation look that to me looks super cheesy. So I think it’s a mixed bag with modern. Like go look up the Umbreon V Alt art from Eevee Heroes (Japanese) or Evolving Skies (English) and tell me that card isn’t incredible.
low POP Vintage isn't important... Masterball Reverse POP 10000 gunna be lit!
No.
Roll credits.
But seriously, some of the art on older cards is just so awesome.
apparently not for stupid nowadays "children"
What’s good vintage virgin gang!
this is where the fun begins
Vintage is awesome! Sadly a lot of times it’s less liquid than modern. Like some of the game boy promos for instance move a lot slower. Even some of the Masaki cards like the machamp are slow moving
Feels like the perfect timing to grab vintage 😉
#1 most sold card I. TCG player last month was Charizard base, others seem to think so too haha
100% prices for vintage graded cards are as low as they were 3 years ago so you can totally get some absolute great deals on auctions
Exactly
smpratte, you’ve mentioned the Yu Nagaba eevees in passing for a few videos now. I might have missed a video where you might have talked about them in a little more detail, but what’s your take on it? It sold out in like 1.5 days. Current market is around 1K for a set of PSA 10s. It’s sorta following the direction that the eevee ponchos took back when they first came out. I personally like the derpy illustrations and think they’ll do well in the next few years and see a similar growth to a lot of the Japanese exclusive promos that were only released a few years ago. Too much of a hot take?
I would agree with your points. History of anything holds a special place setting the begging of what is to come and vintage Pokemon will always be that. In the same manner, modern will always have its place and create new history that we will reflect on many years later as "vintage".
@smpratte where can I buy that shirt?
I’m one of those ride or die guys who won’t touch modern. Maybe 151, but nothing else.
@@Tony_3xl it doesn’t do anything for me
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I still love Black and White - Legendary Treasures. The fun artwork of an alt art was there - even the though the format was still very traditional. Wonka Bar chase cards? Yes.
What about Mid era stuff? Low print numbers and a time where most people had moved on.. but revisting these sets (though extremely expensive) is a treat when you see how pokemon pulled out all the stops to keep the TCG ticking. I'm biased cause I LOVE gold stars and have set goals to try collect some of my favorites. But I could easily see EX collecting or reverse stamp collecting etc.
If you’ve already discovered all these vintage gems, there is nothing left to offer, even if the art is spoiled, modern is always new.
Where do I get that shirt? 🔥
Amazing points!!
To me they're both just as fun. If it was only wotc sets, of course, a bit boring. But we have so much cool stuff on the Japanese side, I've been a fan for years and years and there's still things new to me every once in a while, if I were to try to collect everything I would need 5 lives xP
Man that thumbnail hit my soul haha. Ken Sugimori IS Pokemon to me. And its not all old! Look all all the wonderful tag team cards Arita did, as well as those Japan Post promos that have been popping off recently. Modern has some really fun and crazy designs, but I'll take a Sugimori or Arita card over modern 9 times out of 10. (But im old so I get it)
It’s the VS series for me ❤️
No lol it’s amazing ❤
Where can I find that shirt haha so awesome
Literally came here to ask that same question. 😂
Let the masses keep collecting their modern cards. I dont need them driving up the prices of my vintage gems.
Card collecting is very similar to coin collecting. You start with the modern, and eventually find your way back to ancient Roman. Each step gets more and more interesting.
Yes, PSA 12 would be nice
I want Raging Surf and I DONT CARE about anything before Battle Styles
That's a very interesting view. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that
Modern is fun but Vintage is Goat : Masaki ❤
Vintage alllll dayyyy…something only us boomers can understand, what you said about discovery factor
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Im a fan of both. However, the only reason why modern only collectors couldn't give a monkey about vintage is because most likely the card isn't a "full art" and nowadays collectors will view most vintage card's as a regular holo. Yet if Pokemon were to make a full art version of Shining gyarados from Neo rev for example the modern hype dawgs would go insane.
There's so many different amazing avenues you can go down when it comes to vintage. I find it strange how anyone can call it boring.
Exactly if that old art was full cards they would match if not outright beat most modern fulls
I’d say that only applies to some vintage holos, because everyone and their mom still loves shinings, crystals, and gold stars despite being “half arts.”
VS is probably one of the coolest vintage sets
Ilike vintage cards better cuz the art is so much better
Can anyone tell me the name and number of the card that he’s talking about around three minutes? Sounds like a Pikachu underage drinking and having cake lol.
Wait wait what is the drunk Pikachu card, google utterly failed me on this one
Natta Wake Pikachu. Had never noticed the bottle of wine before!
SWSH is the new golden era and encompasses all fans not just 80s kids
Vintage isn't boring. It's expensive and not in mint condition
Exactly. It’s soooo hard to collect.
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Jiggly puff ain't fury?
its not boring.. its just these days theres more flippers than collectors
boring? because it was a once in a year set? because arts were focused on the pokemon and not the background? because there were only a few charizard? feel so bad for "modern collectors"
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Imo, vintage from base set to neo series are boring, theres barely any cards that have that art, even for its old style and lack of printing machines capable of printing high quality and detail. Imo the best vintage that actually looks good and deserves its vaule from the amazing art is thr heartgold soul silver series.
No, it isn't boring. Onto the next
I miss the Older, Rarer, Minter, Better days - this new modern boom confuses me from ES Moonbreon to Japanese waifus. WHY ARE THEY POPULAR?!
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You can have a beautiful card but if it's easy to find ....it's not valuable
Moonbreon is not rare at all and very valuable…terrible point. What do you define as valuable ? So many modern cards that are not rare over $50 over $100
@WeyHighDesigns in my opinion Moonbreon is reasonably rare, it's scarcity means there is a lot more people that are trying to acquire it than there is availability.
the booster box price is another indication of a few cards inside being rare and or in high demand.
@@BtMo-og2cw there’s over 6000 10’s man. It’s not a rare card. The fact that lots of people want it still just prove your point wrong. There’s tons of them out there and Valuable and high demand.
@WeyHighDesigns saying there are are tons of them ....this may be correct but there is a ton more demand for it.
There are millions of Pokemon collectors out there who do not own this card and want it desperately
I think that pop reports are really misleading because it's the very expensive cards that are graded at a very high rate. (The high desired cards get graded more than the less desired ones) just because there are a lot of Moonbreons graded doesn't mean there is more of this card printed....it just means more graded
Nah I think most people get bored of Pokemon cards in general after a while. I hate the modern cards though, wish that the Pokemon company would reprint the vintage sets like Konami does with yugioh... instead of having to pay a fortune for a beat up vintage card!
Base set is reprinted like every other year lol. Base set. Legendary collection. Celebrations. 151 and I'm sure I'm missing a couple
@@theparalyzedarmy3836 what about other sets? 😜
@@theparalyzedarmy3836 151 has nothing to do with base set btw, its not a literal reprint they never decided to copy and paste a set from 20 years ago. Wish they did that! Also copying the booster box and pack arts with just small adjustment like a 25th stamp on the booster in the corner or a very small identifier on the card (not like the huge celebrations stamp...)
Weird
Vintage all the way 😎✨
Vintage is the most thrilling to me. I find modern boring.
Agreed. Vintage collecting is so much more exciting than modern. I'll stay away from all the hype and turnover thanks.
@@Tony_3xl because there are billions and billions of cards produced. Countless PSA 10s of the rare chase cards…
Vintage is a time capsule and becomes rarer each year as it’s opened and lost. Those packs can contain anything from a base set Charizard to a gold star Rayquaza. That to me is thrilling.
As someone who grew up during the original era, yes it is boring (to me)
This vid got itbleedspixles butthurt and butchering the English language 💀
Not sure if your actually answered the question, but yes, vintage is boring
Modern looks way better than vintage. Only 30 year olds stuck in gen 1 like old gen
The only thing which is more boring than base set, is evolutions
I want vintage more than modern, I just can’t afford it anymore.
If there is no rarity in Modern, why are Modern cards so expensive?
Because these so called 'investors' think these cards are rare but live in echochambers and are all chasing the newest shiny thing at the same time.
Scott this looks like a sad attempt to pump vintage after the crash. Modern is just more exciting, it has better artwork, and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg that most people can’t afford to deter people from taking a second look at them
Pokemon company should reprint one vintage set each year, would be great for the casual collectors!
Lolwut
You obviously dont know you can pick up almost all wotc 1st edition psa 9 holos for 1/5 of the price of a modern chase card. Modern prices are absolutely sky high right now.
@@Tony_3xl yeah for sure, or an ex set (like team rocket returns) 🔥
Short answer: yes, vintage is boring compared to modern
don't understand how people can talk about a "Golden Era" for modern...you can't judge present in collecting, only time will tell
It's ONLY Boring for Gen Z. 😂