Slashback is a Cool Mechanic
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2023
- song: Get Down to Business - HOS theme
3rd strike parries are 10f windows, compared to the 2f here. once thought were impossible but now are reality
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Fun fact: Robo-Ky can also slashback his own explosion from overfilling his Heat gauge. Let that sink in...
Jeez imagine that timing
the levels of sickness you have to get to in order to convice slayer players to block. keep on slaying king
I'm getting there slowly
I remember the time someone slashbacked my CSE. I managed to win that round, but that moment instilled a deep primal fear in me - no more big coconuts for me for the rest of that match.
Definitely makes you realize you're never safe
that parry LOOKS like it feels like sex, and i havent even played the game
Hard things tend to be very satisfying... Wait
It does. Really
It's crazy how we almsot never saw slash backs in the offline era. Now, even online with the lag, folks have gotten down a 2 frame timing. It's amazing.
Rollback is a gateway drug
"He's starting to believe"
Power of god and anime on my side
+r always makes me feel either like a genius or an absolute idiot no in between
But when i make a sick play its the best thing ever
Agreed
GG of that era might not have the prettiest looking 2d sprites, but damn slashback has my favorite visual cue for parrying. Really feels like successfully blocking a nuke
It's a great effect
??? It has the prettiest looking 2d Sprites 🍕😸
He said not have, but i don't think they're bad. Bbcf is better in comparison but i still like it
@@LucidButtonMasher central fiction doesn’t have sprites
@@Hedonkeviik it acctually has! Suprisinly enough the characterers are made of sprites. They are just really small.
Slashback as Baiken to assert dominance.
Though SB does have actual use for Baiken; namely air SB and SB'ing an unblockable.
I slashback baiken to let her know how i feel
I legit did not know this mechanic even existed.
It's rare and difficult but it's there when you need it
One thing that saddens me is that newer games often cut interesting little mechanical nuances like this because it's "unnecessary". Bit of a shame.
Agreed. Old game charm
Yeah, I started off my experience with fighting games with Strive but got next to no interest in giving it another go after I tried out Rev 2, probably going to outright kill my interest in Strive now that I've got my hands on ACR as well. Even if they bring back Slayer, even with Gold Lewis being so fun, I'm not sure I can see myself going back.
Let's hope that simplifying games are only a Stepping Stone for FG dev's plan on bringing new players in, where the next Step is to introduce them to deeper mechanics found in other games....and please give the Strive characters their moves from either Rev 2, ACR, or even BOTH! Everyone feels the same in Strive, but early every character felt unique in the previous 2 games because of their bigger lists of moves plus the mechanics!
@@Manglet762 Deeper mechanics that are fundamentally separate from the foundation aren't very attractive to people who want to learn fighting games in the first place.
Like it or hate it, small things like these push a lot of people away, me and all my friends included.
Don't have to learn it if you don't want to
@@LucidButtonMasher Well yeah, in this case it's an optional thing. But then there's just other QoL stuf that comes with NOT having that that people like me just can't really live without.
It's always nice to see the cool things in +R, it makes me hope they can combine these cool gameplay elements with strive's design for the next title. Maybe I'll pick up +R if I burn out on Xrd or strive soon.
It's always there for you
GGAC+ is the definition of more knowledge, more power
Agreed
yo that sidewinder reland tho
Impossible dust combos pretty cool
Definitely one of the coolest mechanics in this game. Unfortunately I ain’t there yet
Me too. All workin towards it
I really love your content, you sorta made me want to start my own GG channel with funny clips and guides. Keep it up.
Good luck to you friend
Ayy Get Down to Businessnmy favourite +R track! But good montage on those slashbacks its real impressive
Good track for a good game
You should be aware that Slashback is hardcoded not to work as a reversal option, which is understandable but puts a huge limit on how practical it is against the canned okizeme in +R. The thumbnail mentions "2f parries" but that implies it has 2f startup, which isn't the case.
Right, 2f window to do so. I guess best idea is block first thing on wakeup and either slashback or dead angle
Lucid +R training arc is dopamine i needed❤
Gotta use everything the game gives you
You forgot to mention it has a very dopamine inducing sound
Tried to replicate it in the opening cat part but in game is way better sounding
royal guard in GG be like:
True though. Just as satisfying
For 3 years I've been trying to figure out how to do this. I feel so stupid rn
It's very difficult. Either the frame before or frame of contact. Earlier rather than later but it's tough
SB was like a big glue eater brain moment. Came with a HUGE risk but the reward was a BLENDER of NEURON ACTIVATION!!!!
It's the best feeling
The definition of "high risk, high reward".
True
0:38 Yoo, that's me! Slashback has always been a pretty funny move whether it's you that gets the slashback, or the opponent.
Also ggs on that set.
Ggs bud. Cool game
I dont slashback often, but when I do it successfully, I get neuron activation in my Monké HOS brain
Feelsgoodman
Agreed
GET DOWN, GET LOW!
Or make love?
This game is so sick.
Got to agree
me: i'm not sure if i'd ever find a high risk 2f defense option useful
also me: constantly wastes burst going for 1f reversal gold bursts in strive
Lol 1f?
@@LucidButtonMasher From my understanding, if you're 1 frame early you won't be actionable yet and you get a blue burst. If you're 1 frame late you block (or get hit) and then also get a blue burst. So getting an actual gold burst is a 1f window if you're trying to use it as a reversal. (The exception is unburstable knockdowns since then you can buffer the input, but IME people are a lot more likely to try and bait or safejump these.)
To be fair it's not actually as _risky_ per se because you still get them out of your face either way (unless they bait it ofc) but it can still suck because you're now out of a burst with not nearly as much to show for it as you were hoping.
Ah got it like wake up burst
Everyone becomes Daigo when they learn this mechanic
Good luck to them all
its like a red parry but at any time
Just gotta be good at it
I DIDNT EVEN KNOW.
Right?
+R and 2 Overture the GOATS! THEYRE THE GOATS! THE GOATS!
Lol overture
Wait
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THIS WAS IN THE GAME!?!?!?
Sure was
Plus r is back!
Never left baby
Slashback to reality. Watch your safe on block reversal super baiken players
Serves her right for her guard cancels
man i need to play +R as much as I do Xrd
I swap often. It's good fun
Came back to see the video again just to now the uses of Slashback and not for XX, no its for Strive cuz Deflect Shield looks similar to Slashback
I'm sure it'll be much easier
crazy to think that they changed ib to a 2 frame window in strive
Serves a different purpose there
@@LucidButtonMasher I mean, the purpose of both ib in strive and slashback in +r is to allow the defender to get a punish or a better punish where they wouldn't otherwise be able to...
Ib in strive doesn't reduce the block stun, just keeps you closer and reduces pushback. Slashback does the same but gives you less block stun to more often get a punish
I never really got slash back, it just feels too risky to use and because of the video I learned if you mess it up, 30f of no blocking.
Yeah it's a big risk, but being able to get out of any block string and just take your turn needs to be hard to do. Otherwise everyone would be baiken
@@LucidButtonMasher I did remember people developed a technique to do it more frequently by alternating standing and crouching slash back to give more room for error, I couldn't really get it to work.
Oh true??
So this is where mk11 got the idea for the flawless block mechanic 😮
Is it the same thing or just instant block?
@@LucidButtonMasher it’s the same thing lol they just added actions to it tied to your meter
Wait. Why is it called Slashback if you parry and not, you know, slash?
It allows me to hit slash after
Slashback is cool but idk, I’ve never been a fan of the 2f window.
It's hard for a reason. It's not something that can be done all the time, if it were it would be melty shield
I want to see someone parry chipp super.
Lol it might be easier than you think. The window gets bigger after a successful parry
@@LucidButtonMasher oh that’s neat
Didn’t know that part
Just tried. His hits are so fast the parry window isn't the issue it's how fast you need to hit the button to parry the next 29 hits lol
@@LucidButtonMasher did it sound beautiful tho?
Lol i got like 3 or 4 then i get roasted so yes
bro how many mechanics are in this game
Enough
Daisuke this is my 208th letter.
Bring xx to console
Let me play with order sol
Let me use the replay function
Let me experience the possible cross-play between console and pc players.
Let me taste... THE ROLLBACK.
With all sincerity.
A guy who could only play single player in XRD.
Because i live in Brazil and finding a good match is like finding the Big Foot.
Don't think it ever will. To be fair plus r runs on pretty much any pc and is 3 bucks on sale
@@LucidButtonMasher i dont have a functional PC.
;-;
Luckily ones that could run it should be cheap, but i understand it's not easy getting one still
Bro? Its on ps3
I mean it's kinda a tall order to find a ps3 nowadays. Plus there's like 8f delay natively for plus r. It's awful to play tournament in
i will never understand how this mechanic works
I feel like i gave a decent explanation
its not that it wasnt clear it just that i dont get why it just works *also i just noticed i wrote “how” instead of “why” soz*
Uhhh because cool
This is what makes accent core superior to Strive, *feeling more complete and having so much personality as a game.*
Stuff that may go unused for awhile but it's always there if you want to be cool
@@LucidButtonMasher yeah but many fighting games have those features that you might only find out whenever you see a competitive match, roman cancel here is just horribly hard to do sometimes rather than in Xrd or ST
Yeah you just gotta be quick and know what you want to do right after
strive is just 2 years old.
2 years to add more stuff if they want. Don't have to, it's a simpler game by design
strive ib better =)
I don't think it would let you retaliate as easily as slashback though
IB is in every game tho-