Poker Video 28 Home Poker Tutorial PLAYING CARDS & SHUFFLING
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- This is a long one, but there's lots of good info about playing cards in your poker home game.
What cards should I buy?
What's the correct way to shuffle?
What's the "2 Deck System"?
UPDATE - The cards I identify in this video as "Kem" cards are not officially Kems, they are actually "Bicycle Prestige" 100% plastic cards. They are made by the same company that now owns Kems and are very similar, but technically not the same. As with the other card brands in this video they are widely available at Amazon and elsewhere. (J-Design cards are only available as far as I can tell on their own website - watch the video for the web address!)
Be sure to like, subscribe and comment if you have any questions about anything that I missed when it comes to playing cards in a poker home game!
It’s such good advice not to rake. I’ve seen so many games in my area die because it’s souless and so many strange things happen when you are trying to make money. Friend, and fellowship have been so successful for me.
I agree about a rake. In a home game that I used to play in they'd rake $1 from every pot over $20. They'd use the raked money to pay for food for the following week. Everyone thought that was fair (despite it being illegal). The game ran from 6pm - 6am. There was an 8x4 table set up which was constantly being refilled with new orders of pizza, wings, Chinese food, non-alcoholic drinks, etc.
My family owned a motor lodge when I was a kid. High-stakes all-night games would be held there. We had mountains of old opened cards around. Those games would go through a dozen decks of Bicycles in a night. We heard vehicles, boats and property changed hands in those games.
Wtf
Well done! Appreciate the time and effort you put into these for helping us first getting into hosting home games.
Good information. You can tell you have experience and know what's going on. I also like to have good chips, hood cards and a nice organization to things. I always get discouraged when going to some home game with mismatched chips. Crappy table topper and used paper casino cards with holes in them.
Next time you have a friend who likes shot decks, point out that he could just purchase Key West decks from Key West Casino & Resort and have the same type of cards casinos use brand factory new.
I love the Reading Rainbow sound!!!! Haha. I am starting a home game this weekend. Thanks for all you help and expertise!
Good stuff. In Chicago it's common to see the 3-1-2 sequence...with 3-1-2 being the main downtown area code so it's easy to remember. Thanks for sharing.
This series is pure gold !
Thanks for this tutorial. The two deck system makes a lot of sense and I’ll start using it.
You should do a video showing us your chip collection.
Don’t know if I can do the entire collection, I probably will break the table! :-)
Could you do a video explain how you calculate side pots in tournaments?
Great idea! I will give it some serious thought.
Yes RUclips really needs this, especially with multiple shoves.
Totally agree! It’s an important subject.
I like to have the small blind shuffling instead. I find it to be much easier. Then once the hand ends the small blind who becomes the button can be immediately dealing. No middle man that way. However overall I loved the video. It was very informative
Yes, there are big fans of the SB dealing method, and it's all good - whatever works well and is easy is the way to go!
I really like the idea of having the last to act shuffle for the next hand...gives them time to shuffle before the start of the next hand.
In the few small games friends and myself have always had the small blind shuffle for the next hand, then the cards are ready when it's his/her turn to play. And the cards form the last hand are given to the (then) big blind to shuffle for the next hand (when he has to deal).
But I really have to say, I like your way, where the person dealing hasn't touched the cards at all. Very legit system of doing it and would stop a lot of issues.
What do you do with players gorging themselves with greasy chips etc and touching your chips and cards! LOL The struggle was real for me, as they were MY poker chips and cards.
Great content! Continued success.
Thats why I have the less desirable but still addictive snacks - think of pretezels, not greesy, not extra anything on them
The third deck set you have is called as J Design as well.
This was a good tip on shuffling! Great stuff man!
Those aren’t Kem cards. They look like Bicycle plastic bridge sized cards. If you want to keep Kems from warping, store them upside down with a cut card on top. I actually store them with small dealer button on top as well. I have about 50 set ups of cards and around 10 Kems. This method has kept them all flat
Great material Chris hope to se more tips…. Also nice pickle Rick poster 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
6:21 Those are bridge sized, jumbo indexed, old Bicycle Prestige decks. Also availalbe with standard indexes. VJose32 has a review of the standard indexed one.
All my time in poker rooms and Wow I didn't know they used bridge size cards. Names are confusing with poker size.
Couple of points I'd like to make: For one, I never understood the point of using Bridge size cards for poker. The entire reason Bridge size cards were invented was to make it easier to hold 13 cards all at once as Bridge is a Whist style game which uses a full 13 card hand. Since the most cards you have in poker is NEVER more than 7 (and you don't actually hold them), using Bridge size cards doesn't actually make any logical sense. I feel that it was something casinos did as a fad when Bridge size was first invented, but when the fad caught on, it became tradition.
Second, there are two advantages paper cards have over plastic. For one, feel. Plastic cards just don't feel as good as paper cards. There's a unique texture to paper that simply can't be artificially replicated (though plastic card manufacturers do indeed try to replicate this; most notably Fournier). Second, paper cards are 100% biodegradable. Now I already know what you're going to say, "But Captain, paper cards are plastic coated. That can't be good for the environment, right?" Wrong. According to the USPCC/Bicycle themselves, the plastic coating they use on their paper cards is PLA (Polylactic Acid) laminate made from corn that is, in fact, just as biodegradable as the paper stock itself. So when it comes to environmental friendliness, paper beats plastic hands down. I personally don't mind that paper cards only last one night. I buy Key West paper cards by the case, so it's no big deal to me.
Finally, about the comment that KEM playing cards aren't as "good" as they used to be, there's actually a rational explanation for this. When the USPCC/Bicycle purchased KEM, they brought their products up to their standard of not using ANY petrochemicals in the manufacture of any of their made in the USA products. What this means is that USPCC/Bicycle did in fact change the KEM card formula not to include any petrochemicals as the KEM formula previously did. Instead, KEM cards are now make out of 100% wood pulp derived cellulose acetate. This had two major effects: #1. KEM cards are now 100% biodegradable, and can biodegrade in as little as six months (when shredded and composted assuming they don't make up more than 10% of the compost pile) or between 1 - 3 years in first world municipal landfill conditions. #2. KEM cards do NOT last as long as they once did when the card formula contained petrochemicals. This is where the complaints of KEMS "not being as good" comes from. In my opinion, it's a worthy trade off for environmental friendliness.
Just my two cents.
For a regular game, plastic cards are perfered. The reason, is that plastic cards are less likely to be marked by bending, and easier to shuffle, and so forth.
Paper is not as good as plastic but to each their own. Paper is way too fragile for poker anyways
I have old KEM from before the buyout and they warped also, so something must have been preserved.
@@hankhillsnrrwurethra Then I'm not sure where all of the "not as good" comments are coming from. Mandela Effect maybe?
@@SergeantExtreme I've been years trying not to manhandle cards since, thought it was my fault they bent
It was brought up at our poker game... Game was Texas hold'em. A player stated that is the player to the right of the dealer doesn't want to cut the cards the dealer can ask the person to his left (small blind). Has anyone ever heard of this?
Also for the person shuffling for the next hand while the currently one is happening, we always had the Small Blind shuffle the second deck, since they'll be dealer the next hand and will be one of the last to act preflop. After the shuffle and the hand ends, the dealer of the previous hand then cuts the deck for the dealer in the new hand and them the cards get dealt. Seems kind of awkward having the Cutoff shuffle then pass the deck two people over when the hand ends.
Fair! Lots of folks prefer the SB shuffling method, I think it's all good as long as everyone knows and is on the same page. My personal preference is to have whoever's dealing never shuffle or cut their own cards, but it's not a major thing. I also see passing it past two people as the worst part about shuffling behind, but really, you're only sliding the deck to your left to one person, and that person cuts and slides it along - so there's that.
Very informative video & funny too.
I am the designated dealer for my home game, I just use one deck, and have whomever is on the button cut the deck for the next hand. Usually goes pretty quick.
You are a good person for dealing all night! That would make me INSANE, but I know plenty of home games that do it this way.
If you're the designated dealer does that mean you never have to be a blind?
Cool videos, thx! Like this serious! Could you do video explain rules for games different than NL Holdem (Limited Holdem, Omaha and other which you play at your club).
love the vids, helping allot with my home games!!!!
I an't seem to find Copag cards like the ones shown in this video. The ones I keep finding are ones with a back design that I don't like.
You may want to update, Kem prices have almost doubled, most setups on Amazon are $55-60 now.
Nice video! How often are you guys doing “the wash” of the cards? Where the cards are face down and shuffled around on the felt.
Not very often, there's no set time to "wash". Typically anyone who has been card dead for awhile will do it or ask for it. Usually happens a handful of times over the course of a cash game night, not so much during tournaments as it can slow things down.
Call me OCD, but I always "reset" every deck back into factory order before game play. When it's go time, I'll spread the cards face up in front of the players to verify the deck is true. Then I'll wash, then do like a 10-1-2. During the "10", I will remind everyone of any non-standard rules, home field quirks, or other noteworthy items.
It was brought up at our poker game... Game was Texas hold'em. A player stated that is the player to the right of the dealer doesn't want to cut the cards the dealer can ask the person to his left (small blind). Had anyone ever heard of this?
Poker sized for flop/board games. Much easier to see from end of table. Bridge sized for multiple card in hand games. My .02.
Can you recommend “Havana” poker chips?
Chris. Don't know if you use one, but I'm getting a ProShuffle shuffler and would like advice on where to place it by table. I'm thinking on a tray table between two seats at table.
Hints, tips???
Thanks
Hi Christopher--I used to have a semi-regular game that I hosted but it's been awhile. Planning on starting up again in the fall. I agree with you--I like the shuffling behind the dealer instead of the small blind. That's how my group did it. I've also played in games where the small blind did the shuffling, and it just seemed like too much going on at the same time and location of the table. Maybe it's just me. I did have a question for you--I often had a player in my game that physically had trouble shuffling the cards. They were a little sensitive about it, so I ended up buying an inexpensive shuffling machine for each person to use. Most of my folks (including myself) were not the greatest shufflers, and most everyone liked using it. Wasn't a perfect solution but it seemed to work--have you ever used one in your game? What are your thoughts on it?
Personally I’m not a fan of mechanical shufflers, Even the “high end” ones like shuffle-tech are unreliable and to me they slow things down, but if it works for you and your player then that’s great., We have a player who has difficulty shuffling and dealing because of his condition, he has been playing for quite a few years and everybody knows to step up and shuffle and deal for him without drawing attention to it, which he appreciates.
Can we get a tour of your poker room?
I´m creating one myself and I´m looking for inspiration
Poker room tour will happen later this year, stay tuned!
Great video as always.
What's the rule in your home game for a card that was accidentally exposed while dealing?
That's a whole topic unto itself that I should probably make a video on. I certainly have specific house rules but I'm a bit hesitant to share them right away - I would want to make double sure that all my rules are correct ha ha.
Great video!
Hey Chris! Played a single table tournament with my family using your structure and they loved it and the Bounty chip. I am curious for 2-3 table tournaments how do you handle food as the host? Is it unreasonable to put a $5 charge on the first buy-in to cover food? My wife and I have always provided when we host regardless of what games we play...but never for more than 8-10ppl...im afraid 20+ ppl every 2-3 months will get costly fast
The snacks I provide are really a bare minimum, couple bags of chips and a box of cookies and a flat of bottled water. Whether it’s 10 or 30 players it doesn’t cost very much. I do leave out a jar for people to help with an occasional dollar or two, typically that money pays for less than half, which is may be around $20 with 30 players.
If you are providing any more than this, I certainly think it’s reasonable to ask/require people to chip in, and include it in the buy-in. This is especially true if these people are all your friends. Adding five dollars to an entry and using it to pay for yummy snacks beyond the bare minimum it’s something I think everyone will understand. If your game is open to people that you don’t know I would recommend stating somewhere, either in the Evite or posted rules, that the extra five dollars is optional but appreciated. You don’t need to draw attention to this, but it’s a good idea to have it written down just in case someone you don’t know wants to make trouble. Even though that’s very unlikely.
So glad to hear that the structure works great! Remember to adjust it slightly if you do get 20+ people, I would get rid of the quarters and start with a T100 base. I believe that structure is in the starting stack video at 10.36
@@chrismanzoni3586 thanks for the info! I have taken alot of what you teach to heart about fellowship and friendship. So much so that when we play cash we play 2cent/5cent NLH with a $10.00 buy in. We frequently play with beginners and I want them to learn the games and feel welcome to play.
I was just looking around for playing cards, found Desjgn, the description says it's pronounced "J Design".
I'm guessing the designer's name is Jim.
Great video :) Do you still prefer jumbo index when playing draw games? For me, it is much easier to squeeze 5 cards when it has standard indexes. Also, i hate cards with fully covered back design, like Bee - its harder to see how many cards are discarded.
We play draw games in our cash game as part of a mix of games, including board games like Hold-Em and Omaha, so we stick with jumbo index - but if we ever find ourselves playing exclusively a draw game, like maybe a 7-2 tournament, then standard index would probably work better!
Modiano makes good plastic cards...and the davinci line is less than copag
Chris...noticed that that blue PCF table mat looks like eithe a layover, roll-out of maybe a replacement mat that you haven't tucked in yet. Or do all your home-made tables have a roll-out mat?
Do you reuse the cards?
We always at art the night with sealed decks to insure that they have not been tampered with. (Not that anyone would ever do that in our friendly games between friends. It’s more a kind of a ritual, everyone watching as the new deck is unwrapped)
We reuse our decks as they are 100% plastic. Plastic covered paper decks work well as a one night use, unsealing this kind of deck is a good way of doing it.
Lmao the amount of time that shuffle takes is crazy
Howdy hope your doing well
Aren't those KEMs actually the bridge-size Bicycle Prestige plastic decks? Those are the back designs for the bridge Bikes, and I own them. Even the Queen of clubs shown on the bottom look the exact same as the bridge Bicyle ones.
Yeah those look like the bridge size Bicycle Prestige cards
By Golly, I think you guys are right! That's probably why they aren't warped ha ha ha. I get the two brands confused these days because APCC of course bought Kems awhile back.
Always check the Ace of Spades. That’s the quickest way to know if the cards are Kem or not
My local cardroom would give away their used casino paper decks. We used to use them for home games but the finish would be worn after one night.
I say "j-design."
Nice video!
Thank you sir
Excuse me a box is 4 to 6 cuts I deal Black Jack for cheeseburger stakes lol
Like he said never went do dealer school just the method he uses
I just turned 21 and just started playing poker pretty frequently at the casinos (I live in Las Vegas). I built myself a pretty cheap poker table and bought some chips and cards. All my friends know me for being a decent poker player and are scared to start playing with me. People often wig out on games and a 9-handed poker night turns into only 4-5 handed. How would you recommend convincing your other friends to start playing poker with you?
FYI the couple times I did have some poker nights the stakes were .25/.50 $50 max buy in with a $100 reload. Should I lower the stakes? Bring more alcohol? Make new friends?? Lol
I run a home game and we have a similar thing. Probably a core group of 6-8 regulars and, every now and then, we can get up to 10 people.
We started with 25 cent, 50 cent blinds, $20 buy in with unlimited cap (most people would buy in once or twice, maybe three times). As people got more comfortable playing, we eventually increased the stakes to $50 buy in. But that took us probably 7 or 8 months. Just be patient
Ever use a card shuffling machine?
Finally!!!
Good vid Chris. Planning my first game in a year in mid-April. 4 player limit, masks, and people who have had vaccine.
Those card caddies look cool! 3D printed?
Yes! I did a video that includes them, among other amazing 3D printed products - Video #21 on this channel!
have you tried fournier cards?
You know I haven't! I've heard great things about them!
@@chrismanzoni3586 i have some fournier EPT 2010 cards arriving and i can't wait to try them out (first fournier deck)
Did your Prestige cards come with a box? Take a look because the poker sized Prestige are made by Fournier
Is the dealer currently out of the game or does he also play a hand?
Supposed to be pronounced as J Design
THANK YOU! It's been driving me crazy, I know just saying Design wasn't correct lol!
Np. I think the correct name had only been mentioned once or twice back on Chip Talk and no one ever seems to know what to call them haha
Had to be the 667th viewer.
Why not just have the little blind shuffle his own deck? He has a lot of time before its his action and no need to move the shuffled deck around.
Can someone tell me why we don't fan? LOL
hey Chris i"m Sullivan and i started a new channel and am trying to gain viewers i am mainly poker and gambling tips i was wondering if u could give me a shoutout in your next video plz
Want to sell that poker table behind you?
That’s the most awkward riffle I’ve seen lol
If that’s the most awkward riffle you’ve ever seen then you probably need to get out more lol
@@chrismanzoni3586 more home games I guess. No professional dealer riffles like that.
@@Unam469 Honestly I was impressed as hell by it. The idea of getting that bend out of the cards without a finger under it or without pushing up against the other hand... my dexterity just can't physically do it.
I disagree with all of this video concerning card choice.
Unless you have tiny little girl hands then you should only have poker size cards in your life... say 99.9% of the planet. I've never seen anyone playing with bridge size cards.
Also plastic cards suck. Get a good deck of Bicycles and have the good real feel of cards.
Can't stand the look of jumbo size cards... standard is the way... I'm a few years older than you and have zero trouble seeing them... grab some glasses, Bro 🙂
I've done lots of cardistry and magic over the years along side a life time of playing cards so I will definitely be biased towards all the options I mention.
As for table shuffling ... yours is the most basic way... but not the way a real card handler would do it... too much to explain in a text but your thumbs would be on the long side of the deck closer to you. But yours will work fine.
You method of who is shuffling if different than mine... We always shuffle our own deck... I think I'm going to give you method a shot... That is an interesting way to do it.