My favorite horror icon is Ash Williams from the Evil Dead franchise. I think he is a rarity in horror icons because he is the good guy, which doesn't happen much.
I'm also a defender of the remake, it takes the series back to it's roots without rehashing the same premise of the original movie, something I very much dislike about many of the other remakes (Halloween, Nightmare, Psycho etc).
I'm not wild about the idea of buying the new Scream Factory box set, no. And I haven't pre-ordered it. 1) the cost they're charging (the first 8 movies are available right now on Amazon on Blu-ray for around $25, brand new) feels exorbitant. 2) I don't really care for the artwork, especially compared to the Halloween box set, which is sleek and minimalist. 3) I've bought these movies so many times. I would much rather have seen this attention being given to something that hasn't had many previous Blu-ray releases. Most of the Friday the 13th movies (not part 9 and 10) have had at least three previous Blu-ray releases.
One thing to look for is the song Starlight from Helloween: it's the opening track from their first release, and it starts with the Silver Shamrock tune! I didn't see Halloween III until a few years ago, but I can see why they used it. Great video by the way!
Ohh a lot to unpack here so I'm going to watch it again over the weekend and add a few more deeper thoughts (if that's ok?)... What I will say is I so want to see a Wolfman Jr. show! Though my additional idea would be to have him as not only the young son of the OG wolfman BUT also a budding blues musician as Wolfman Jr. just sounds like a rocking good stage name... Heck Crossroads with werewolves is what I'm thinking basically! Keep up with the excellent work and I'll return soon. :)
Awesome video Heath! Would love to hear you talk more in depth about Universal or Hammer horror. Love the classic Gothic atmosphere of those movies with the foggy grave yards and crumbling castles.
I'm absolutely devoting a video to Universal Horror. It will be later in the month. To me, Universal Horror shaped Halloween as we know it. I have tons to say about it, and that will probably be one of the last videos I make before Halloween because I really love those movies.
Favorite horror franchises for me: Halloween, Scream, Child's Play, Saw. Now I LOVE: Freddy, Jason, Leatherface, and the Warwick Davis Leprechaun, but the ones I listed off are the ones that really resonate with me. I love all the slasher icons though
I totally agree with you man! Halloween 3: Season Of The Witch is not a bad Film it’s really a good Horror Science Fiction movie, overall I enjoy the First 3 Halloween movies especially Season Of The Witch which is my Favorite Halloween movie. Great collection man!👍👍👍👍
Do you buy horror movies on 4k Blu-ray They just released Halloween on 4K Also on 4K Christine I was looking forward to buying them even though I have a Halloween box set
I haven't gone 4K yet. I may during this year's black Friday sales, but I may also wait if the deals aren't good enough. I've invested so much in what I have already, and I'm very happy with Blu-ray.
I’m really just beginning to watch Italian horror. I’m more into Italian crime and westerns, but I’ve been discovering the horror stuff and very slowly checking it out.
Great video buddy. I need to do a response with some of my favorites as well. I guess now the horror icons would be... Conjuring, insidious and sinister? I'm not sure. Check out the Barn if you haven't seen it! Great fun throw back flick!
Yeah, I think you’re right about modern horror icons, but the funny thing is, they aren’t iconic. The conjuring movies are very popular and make a ton of money, but there nothing there that’s instantly recognizable. Annabelle is no Chucky.
I was hoping some younger people would point out what they think is currently iconic, but so far no one has. Jigsaw gets named, but he’s been around for almost 15 years. “It” and Pennywise have been around for decades. Krampus is a good one, though. Victor Crowley from Hatchet too, but I don’t think most people have seen those or know who he is.
Yes Jigsaw is def one, but he is getting long in the tooth. No pun intended. Victor Crowley is up there but still also underground a little. I like him too though. ;)
I was lucky enough to find the Nightmare encyclopedia disc from the dvd box set at a flea market for $1 and I loved that disc and it’s trivia and such. Freddy is forever my favorite slasher. I actually made a Freddy lunchbox, he was my “universal monster” icon
Current attempts at creating slasher icons could be: Leslie Vernon (Behind the Mask), if they would have done more films, Blue Skeleton crew (Houses October Built), too bad they made the sequel, which in my opinion undermines the entire first film, The Collector (The Collector/The Collection) had a cool premise and Baby Face (Happy Death Day), they are working on a sequel and was a fun kind of throwback feeling attempt at a slasher ala Scream. Just my 2 cents
Great slasher movies back in the day, i have grown up whith these movies, Halloween, Friday The 13th, Nightmare On Elm Street etc, awsome memories and still enjoying this movies today, have a collection of this movies😀😀
I know this is 2 years ago but I was watching some of your old videos and this was really interesting. The original Halloween is my favourite horror movie (along with Alien) and Michael Myers my fave slasher killer. I love Halloween 2 and H20 as well. The others range from pretty good to okay to really bad! Overall Nightmare on Elm Street is my favourite franchise. Other than the remake I love ALL these movies. Not saying they're all good lol but I love them. Unlike Halloween and Michael I don't find them or Freddy particularly scary, but just so so fun and entertaining and very rewatchable. I'm currently going through them again. I've only seen the first Friday the 13th! I really want the new boxset so I can watch the rest. I'm not sure about current iconic horror movies or characters. Not like the Monsters of the 30s/40s/50s and the Slashers here. There's a lot of ghost/ possession movies in recent years and while some are good and popular nothing stands out as being particularly iconic to me
I think that the current horror icons from recent slasher films are: Victor Crowley from the Hatchet series, and Victor Crowley (Hatchet 4). Chromeskull from the Laid To Rest movies. There are two out now, and a third is in the works. Also, Art The Clown from the movie Terrifier is pretty badass. Thank you for another awesome video 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
Great video, you can buy Jason goes to Hell and Jason X on Blu-ray, I got mine from Amazon Germany for 15 Euro's, its like the last few on the Paramount set, two films on one disc, don't know why its only available there, thanks buddy.
I'm 18 and a total fun of the old horror movies, currently busy watching all of the friday the 13th franchise, I'm at part 7. I got a lot to catch up on, haven't seen classics like halloween and nightmare on elm street yet, but plan on watching them.
I think you should talk about horror kid shows like grave dale high , the groove ghoulies , monster squad the tv show not the movie , the drak Pack , the hilarious house of frighten stein and of course mummies alive . If you haven’t seen any of these series I think a gave some food for thought have seen any of these series if so witch ones ?
Drak Pack MAY pop up in a spooky TV video that I want to make soon. I'm just not sure I'm going to have time to make that video, but I might. I've honestly never heard of some of those. Cool recommendations.
I’m suuuuuper late but I agree with all of your picks-some of my favorite slashers are Prom Night (both versions) and Sorority Row for newer ones. I also was partial to the Puppet Master series. Not the best content wise but they were so much fun and they feel iconic in that way for me.
i don't know if I'd say profoundly better, but I felt like I understood it much better. The tension was a little tighter. My draw for the film is Donald Pleasance. Of the Michael/Jason/Freddy cabal, Halloween is the only franchise that kept a major character in continuity that wasn't the killer. I felt his performances of Dr. Loomis got better each time, with his madness/obsession on perfect display in Part 4. A great actor that spent the last 20 years of his life's work building this character's trauma. I'm going to rewatch it tonight (last I watched it was 2016) and see what i can relay without any spoilers ;)
Kids' horror icons? Well, my kids are 9 and 6 and they know full well who Freddy, Jason, and Michael Myers are. Also Chucky, Ghostface, Jeepers Creepers and Jigsaw. They haven't seen any of the movies, but other kids talk about them enough that they are aware. My 9 year old has begged me to let him watch Friday the 13th in particular--apparently Jason is still HUGE for kids. They haven't mentioned any of the more recent horror movies, though they do know who Slenderman is.
@@CerealAtMidnight The major differences is he was a daddies boy instead of a momma's boy, doesn't hide is grotesque features with a mask, a lot faster, and a type of cursed ghost who only comes out during the night in the swamp. However you can definitely tell that Jason was the primary inspiration for Viktor, also Kane Hodder himself
They should make a Michael Myers V's Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger movie . I do not know why they have not done that yet or if they even will . I think they should
My kids are ages 18, 21 and 23. They go for zombie flicks. I used to catch them watching the Dead movies when they were in elementary and middle school 😬 .
I had a (cough) VCD of Halloween Resurrection. I watched the first disc and never bothered with the second disc. H20 may have been the first I saw, (Freddy was the goto horror in my house growing up.) Halloween III is also one I can rewatch any time of year. The first is great and II is fine, can't remember the others really (have I seen them? 🤔) Freddy Vs Jason, I was there opening night and everyone there was loving it.
Love of all those movie franchises. Some sequels more than other. Freddy vs Jason as OK. I saw it at the cinema. and was disappointed. I think we all played out there meeting in our heads and discussions with friends that the film would never live up to our expectations. But did watch it again a few years ago and enjoyed it more. Chucky remake. Urgh! I will watch it to see what it's like. Did enjoy the recent films. Was a great video. Looking forward to more form this Icons of Horror series dude! "One, Two, Freddy's Coming For You..."
Doesn't it seem like any time they try to have scifi or horror icons clash, it's never that satisfying? The Aliens VS Predator movies are another example. They can never live up to what we had in our heads. I'm also reminded of the Robocop VS Terminator comics from the 90s.
Yeah I was thinking of Aliens vs Predator also. And darn, forgot about Robocop vs Terminator comic. still got that somewhere here. Also Superman vs Terminator. Comics did lead the way with these. again some better than others. Is fun seeing favs fight it out.
Just in case I don't get that video doesn't happen this October (there's only so much time), I'd recommend pretty much everything John Carpenter directed up to They Live. These aren't all horror, but Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween, The Fog, Escape From New York, The Thing, Christine, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, and Prince of Darkness. And They Live, of course.
For me, a 17 year old now, when I was a kid people still believed the biggest horror icons were Freddy, Jason, Michael, and Leatherface. There is no horror movie slasher orientated that has been released in this generation that is anywhere close to a Freddy, Jason, or Michael. People can argue with Victor Crowley and Jigsaw, but those movies aren’t nearly as good and iconic as the TRUE icons of slashers.
I have always liked the remake of Friday the 13th. It was a very effective film. It brought the franchise back to the roots. It was the best movie in the franchise since the old Paramount films. With Freddy vs Jason, it definitely was not perfect, but it was not bad either.
Texas chainsaw massacre in 74 to me started the slasher genre. An my favorite franchise. Even though it's the worst with the time line. Scream definitely kick started horror in the 90's . As did saw in 04 . As I'm an 80's kid and slashers what drew me to horror, As I looked at all the vhs covers at the video store. I watch more psychological horror now. I still watch mostly in the Halloween season. Great video always enjoy them.
I COMPLETELY forgot about Saw and Jigsaw. Do you think those are slashers? I think there's an argument to be made both ways, especially since Jigsaw isn't actually doing the slashing, the characters do it to themselves.
@@CerealAtMidnight saw is more of a psychological horror or some people think its gore porn. But it can always be argued in length ..lol .Similar to the hellraiser films
Halloween is the first slasher film, but it's not. Black Christmas was also the first slasher too. Scream pulls from both Halloween and Black Christmas. I'd love the MTV Scream TV complete series in a nice slim DVD case beside of the 6 movie Scream set.
I’m 16 and the horror icons of my generation are things like it (the clown) and anabelle a little bit and Freddy is pretty popular but I don’t hear people talk about Michael Myers (my favourite killer in horror) or movies like scream(my favourite horror movie of all time) at least Freddy is pretty popular still
For Thanksgiving I recommend you watching blood rage it’s an 80s horror movie that is a Thanksgiving horror movie one of my favorites and if you can do a video on it
I love Blood Rage. My buddies at F This Movie did a commentary for it for Scary Movie Month 2017. www.fthismovie.net/2017/10/ftm-407-blood-rage-commentary.html
Halloween III, Season of the Witch, was my first Halloween movie. I was probably 12-13 years old and was browsing the basement of one of the local video store. This was mid-late 1980s. I knew nothing about these movies, but I remember seeing the VHS-cover. I HAD to see it, and I did. I thought it was a little confusing, but I liked the movie and found it very scary. After that I saw the Terminator, and loved that too. I really like these old gritty R-rated crafty movies that are pieces of art, and created much more independently from all the bullshit that governs movie productions today. to owner of the Terminator franschise: You want to save this universe? Only one way to do it: Go back to the roots. Make it rated R, and on a small budget.
Everyone I knew who went to see freddy vs jason in the cinemas all enjoyed it at the time. We must have just been weird. Have to agree Freddys Nightmare needs a disc release of the entire series. I still do not understand why the first episode is not on the nightmare movie box set, it relates directly to the movies rather than the episodes they put on it. I'm jealous of the documentaries as I don't have them and they go for a few quid these days
I have a lot of catching up to do. I actually like horror and slashers, but i never paid much attention until a few years ago. I've seen most of the first movies of each series you talked about, but rarelly the sequels I recently bought the Psycho 4 movie set. I'll try to dig into it very soon An i really want to see the Chucky series. I only saw the first 2 movies i theaters when they came out, and nothing else since Also, i actually like Freddy vs Jason. I think part of it that on my first viewing, it was at midnight, opening night, and the crowd was really into it. Laughing and gasping at the right places. It's been a while since i saw it, but not that long ago, and i still liked it. I also don't have a huge history with either franchise, so i guess that help
The Chucky movies are crazy. The first three of them are great, straight-forward horror movies about a killer doll. Then they take some time off and come back with Bride of Chucky, a meta movie kind of like Scream that's more parody than straight horror. The sequel is even more of that thing, so weird and unusual and meta. Then they reinvent the series again almost a decade later and make the doll completely scary again. It's a crazy series that has gone to some ridiculous places but that still feels like it has a ton of life in it.
Sometimes i don’t like living in Holland. We don’t have those boxsets. Ive been looking forever for the Halloween Blu Ray box set, but it is only for region 1. Europe has region 2, so i can’t find iT and Play iT on my blu ray player. Same Goes for the Friday the 13th blue Ray box set. Can’t find it either. And I don’t have the money to change my blu ray player if it is expensive. Love the video. Slashers are my favorite ones.
Karst, have you ever looked into seeing if you could unlock your Blu-ray player? Sometimes it's as simple as a code you enter into the remote. It's a slim chance, but maybe you'll get lucky.
CHILDS PLAY REMAKE So the remake is gonna have the same "concept" but hes name aint even gonna be chucky and also hes gonna be a robot doll. BUT GOOD NEWS.. THE OG CHUCKY FOLLOWING AFTER CULT OF CHUCKY IS GOING TO TV NOW
Donnell, dude, you got to be a little bit nicer to people! But it's true, the director of the Jeepers Creepers trilogy is a convicted child sex offender and served time in prison for it. Because of that, I just can't watch those movies and separate what he did in real life from his work. I didn't find out about it until after I saw the first two movies (which I own), but I don't know if I'll ever be able to watch the third movie.
I grew up with the Friday the 13th films so I thought Freddy vs Jason was a bad idea that made a worse movie. On the other hand my 13 year old grandson just saw it, it was his introduction to those characters, and he loved it, thought it was the best movie ever.
I think how we feel about Freddy VS Jason depends largely on our history with those characters. I can see it being entertaining for people who didn’t have years of history with them. I’m glad your grandson likes it!
I have the Friday the 13th Blu-ray set that came in the black tin. Every disc plays flawlessly and not a single one scratched. It includes all the original series as well as Freddy vs Jason, the remake and Camp Crystal Lake Memories. I love the first 2 Texas Chainsaw movies as well as the remake of the first one. Although I agree the Scream franchise did breath new life into the slasher sub-genre of horror I personally wouldn't consider Ghostface an icon because in each film it's a different character wearing the costume. The new Child's Play remake has nothing to do with Charles Lee Ray aka Chucky but is going to be robot doll with A.I. that has been hacked and reprogrammed by a rouge programmer.
For modern horror icons I was going to say Ghostface and Chucky but you hit them both on the head, apparently. I don't watch slasher films as a rule (a combination of too much empathy, too much imagination and too little appreciation for artificial Gore will do that to a person lol) so I don't really keep up with trends. Then again, there haven't really been serialized horror films in the same way in recent years as there have been in the past, either, unless it's something like "Ouiji 8" starring (generic ghost/demon). I don't know if you've noticed that, but it seems I have, is it a thing?
I would have to say Friday the 13th is my favorite franchise, despite Halloween being my favorite horror movie. I have the Friday tin and the discs were stored horribly.
I completely avoid watching Chucky, just can't do it. It was on tv when I was 5 and I thought it was a kids movie and begged my dad to leave it on and he was like "You really don't want to watch this movie" but I insisted. I forget the scene but Chucky comes on and starts hacking someone with a ruler which lead to 5 year old me screaming and running out of the living room. Good times lol
Iconic horror films of my generation (GenZ) would have to be... -SAW franchise -The Conjuring franchise -Blair Witch Project -Insidious -Paranormal Activity -Final Destination -The Ring And most recently It Follows, Hereditary, IT and maybe the Evil Dead remake
@@CerealAtMidnight Absolutely, the ghosts and demons are the dominant topic in horror films today. Which I myself am sick of. I would love for monsters and Cronenberg type body horror to make a comeback!
I went to see the 2009 remake of Friday the 13th at the theater and didn't like it. And then I didn't see it again until last year (about 12 years later) and really enjoyed it.
Cereal At Midnight: I know you made this a while ago, and may not respond. However two quick things. 1) I love your channel and presentations. 2) In this version you mentioned you didn't appreciate the Rob Zombie "Halloween" remake and I couldn't agree more. I am curious to know if it's because of the same reasoning as me. The original "Halloween" is one of my favourite horror films and it's especially creepy because we know nothing about Michael Myers except that one night he decided to kill his sister. He has seemingly normal parents, though we know nothing of them either, but that's what makes it creepy to me; one night a young boy snaps and kills his sister for no apparent reason. Cut to the Zombie reboot and we have the trite, hackneyed emo kid with his bangs over his eyes and his head hung low with parents who would make anyone want to murder somebody. To me that completely ruined the concept of the original and just wondered if that was part of the reason for you as well. Not to mention I agree that classics just shouldn't be remade/rebooted.
Yes, the reason you named for the Rob Zombie Halloween not working is one of the many reasons I think it fails. I also just don't care much for Rob Zombie's "trailer park gothic" approach, and I feel like he just keeps making the same movie over and over again, with Lords of Salem being the only exception. And that's okay, I like House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects alright. If his version of Halloween were something else and not a remake of one of the most beloved classics of the entire genre, I'd be a lot more allowing. I still don't think the movie would quite work or be good, but it would be easier for me to dismiss.
I don't mean to diminish anyone else's thoughts about the Friday the 13th remake. I was disappointed because, as a remake, they had to repeat elements from earlier entries in the series that I had loved for a long time. It did have some cool, intense scenes in it, though. I look at a movie like Curse of Chucky and see how it both starts a new cycle while also still keeping everything that came before. Curse of Chucky isn't a reboot, but it feels fresh and new. I feel like New Line Cinema doesn't really understand what makes Jason so popular, and I also didn't care for the studio's choice of Marcus Nispel as the director or the fact that Michael Bay was producing. But having said that, I recognize I'm being probably overly critical because I'm very attached to that series. I think it's AWESOME that you dig the movie and I would never speak for anyone other than myself. I wish I did love that movie, and maybe if I watch it a few more times, I will.
Dont worry im mature enough to understand that everyone has different opinions, we may not agree on them all the time but thats why they are our own opinions. Trust me i get alot of crap for saying how much i dislike tcm original and exorcist, i appriciate what they did for cinema history but i watched them after they had been hyped up for yrs, and i found them very underwhelming. But again its just an opinion :)
The sad thing is right after Halloween 6 Donald pleasant died. The real sad thing is I heard pleasant was treated like shit I think during that production I think the director our somebody else had problems our issues with him. That guy was a natural treasure he was perfect as doctor lumis he was awesome in phenonima which I have only seen once it was years ago I need to see that again. I still need to see inferno.
I’m 13 so I’m problem the current generation and out icons are Michael Myers , Jason vorhees, Freddy, ghostface, leprecon, chucky, candyman, alien, and the killer from hush
See, this is where personal taste comes in because that’s why I don’t like it. I think it’s an inferior version of the first three movies. For me and a lot of people who love those movies, it’s all about the cast of characters that end up as the victims and survivors, and I wouldn’t trade those kids in the early movies for anything. But to each their own! I’m glad you like the remake! It’s all a matter of personal opinion and I would never try to talk you out of yours.
After what happened with Ash Vs the Evil Dead (low ratings, cancellation), I'd be hesitant about putting Child's Play on TV, especially when the movies were really doing well. But no one asked me. Long live Jason!
The remake of Friday the 13th had a great Jason. I wouldn’t say the movie is great, but it’s miles better than the other 3 new line Jason movies.
My favorite horror icon is Ash Williams from the Evil Dead franchise. I think he is a rarity in horror icons because he is the good guy, which doesn't happen much.
Good choice.
I got to disagree with you regarding the Friday the 13th remake. It is one of the better Jason films. Jason is a total bad ass in that film.
I also thought the Jason remake was meh, though I like the Freddy one a lot which I know most people hate haha
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@@SegaCDUniverse i liked the remake freddy better honestly... i think the og nightmare movies were corny
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I'm also a defender of the remake, it takes the series back to it's roots without rehashing the same premise of the original movie, something I very much dislike about many of the other remakes (Halloween, Nightmare, Psycho etc).
Freddy vs jason was campy badass fun lol i enjoy every min of it in the theaters.but dif Strokes for different folks
Are you stoked for the new Halloween movie?? I can't wait!
Noted that the 10 disc set of Friday the 13th had scratched discs but are you interested in the upcoming set from Shout Factory?
I'm not wild about the idea of buying the new Scream Factory box set, no. And I haven't pre-ordered it.
1) the cost they're charging (the first 8 movies are available right now on Amazon on Blu-ray for around $25, brand new) feels exorbitant.
2) I don't really care for the artwork, especially compared to the Halloween box set, which is sleek and minimalist.
3) I've bought these movies so many times. I would much rather have seen this attention being given to something that hasn't had many previous Blu-ray releases. Most of the Friday the 13th movies (not part 9 and 10) have had at least three previous Blu-ray releases.
One thing to look for is the song Starlight from Helloween: it's the opening track from their first release, and it starts with the Silver Shamrock tune! I didn't see Halloween III until a few years ago, but I can see why they used it. Great video by the way!
Just found your page and am loving what I have seen so far keep up the great content
I went to the theater twice and seen Freddy VS. Jason, and I completely loved and enjoyed the flick...👌🏼💯✔
I love it too. It's exactly what it needs to be.
Of course I watched Friday the 13th 3D in 3D at midnight and loved it too.
Ohh a lot to unpack here so I'm going to watch it again over the weekend and add a few more deeper thoughts (if that's ok?)... What I will say is I so want to see a Wolfman Jr. show! Though my additional idea would be to have him as not only the young son of the OG wolfman BUT also a budding blues musician as Wolfman Jr. just sounds like a rocking good stage name... Heck Crossroads with werewolves is what I'm thinking basically! Keep up with the excellent work and I'll return soon. :)
Man, you comment any time and as often as you like! And I LOVE your pitch for Wolfman Jr! Let's hope some studio executives are paying attention.
There is no official Halloween 3. They need to make an official Halloween 3.
I stand with John Carpenter! O Captain, my Captain!
Awesome video Heath! Would love to hear you talk more in depth about Universal or Hammer horror. Love the classic Gothic atmosphere of those movies with the foggy grave yards and crumbling castles.
I'm absolutely devoting a video to Universal Horror. It will be later in the month. To me, Universal Horror shaped Halloween as we know it. I have tons to say about it, and that will probably be one of the last videos I make before Halloween because I really love those movies.
Does any but me also consider Candyman and the Tallman are up there with Michael, Jason, Freddy, Pinhead, Chucky, Billy/Jigsaw and Leather face?
I personally consider both to be icons, but maybe B-level, insofar as those movies are more cult favorites than cultural smashes. Tony Todd rules.
Awesome collection man! 🙂
Favorite horror franchises for me: Halloween, Scream, Child's Play, Saw. Now I LOVE: Freddy, Jason, Leatherface, and the Warwick Davis Leprechaun, but the ones I listed off are the ones that really resonate with me. I love all the slasher icons though
I totally agree with you man! Halloween 3: Season Of The Witch is not a bad Film it’s really a good Horror Science Fiction movie, overall I enjoy the First 3 Halloween movies especially Season Of The Witch which is my Favorite Halloween movie. Great collection man!👍👍👍👍
There is alot of extra content missing from the Nightmare on elm street blu ray set that was in the original dvd collection.
Like what? The only missing extras I’m aware of are some deleted/extended scenes. Even the labyrinth hidden features end up on the Blu-Ray bonus disc.
Are going to do horror westerns or some of the Spanish horror movie like el santo vs the vampire women or the robot vs the Aztec mummy?
I have no plans for those movies this year for my Icons of Horror series, but that doesn't mean I won't talk about them at some point.
Great video man
I just found your channel. I listen to videos in the background while I'm working. I felt like I was listening to Jonah Hill talk for a half hour.
Do you buy horror movies on 4k Blu-ray They just released Halloween on 4K Also on 4K Christine I was looking forward to buying them even though I have a Halloween box set
I haven't gone 4K yet. I may during this year's black Friday sales, but I may also wait if the deals aren't good enough. I've invested so much in what I have already, and I'm very happy with Blu-ray.
are you into Argento and Fulci or any of the more obscure italian Giallo films ?
I’m really just beginning to watch Italian horror. I’m more into Italian crime and westerns, but I’ve been discovering the horror stuff and very slowly checking it out.
Great video buddy. I need to do a response with some of my favorites as well.
I guess now the horror icons would be... Conjuring, insidious and sinister? I'm not sure.
Check out the Barn if you haven't seen it! Great fun throw back flick!
Yeah, I think you’re right about modern horror icons, but the funny thing is, they aren’t iconic. The conjuring movies are very popular and make a ton of money, but there nothing there that’s instantly recognizable. Annabelle is no Chucky.
I would agree! Maybe Black Philip or Krampus LOL. Fun looking but yes not iconic. It's a tough act to follow!
I was hoping some younger people would point out what they think is currently iconic, but so far no one has. Jigsaw gets named, but he’s been around for almost 15 years. “It” and Pennywise have been around for decades. Krampus is a good one, though. Victor Crowley from Hatchet too, but I don’t think most people have seen those or know who he is.
Yes Jigsaw is def one, but he is getting long in the tooth. No pun intended. Victor Crowley is up there but still also underground a little. I like him too though. ;)
I remember being younger and staying up late watching HBO and Sleepaway Camp was on I was never the same 🔪
I was lucky enough to find the Nightmare encyclopedia disc from the dvd box set at a flea market for $1 and I loved that disc and it’s trivia and such. Freddy is forever my favorite slasher. I actually made a Freddy lunchbox, he was my “universal monster” icon
That’s so cool!
Current attempts at creating slasher icons could be: Leslie Vernon (Behind the Mask), if they would have done more films, Blue Skeleton crew (Houses October Built), too bad they made the sequel, which in my opinion undermines the entire first film, The Collector (The Collector/The Collection) had a cool premise and Baby Face (Happy Death Day), they are working on a sequel and was a fun kind of throwback feeling attempt at a slasher ala Scream. Just my 2 cents
Great slasher movies back in the day, i have grown up whith these movies, Halloween, Friday The 13th, Nightmare On Elm Street etc, awsome memories and still enjoying this movies today, have a collection of this movies😀😀
I know this is 2 years ago but I was watching some of your old videos and this was really interesting. The original Halloween is my favourite horror movie (along with Alien) and Michael Myers my fave slasher killer. I love Halloween 2 and H20 as well. The others range from pretty good to okay to really bad! Overall Nightmare on Elm Street is my favourite franchise. Other than the remake I love ALL these movies. Not saying they're all good lol but I love them. Unlike Halloween and Michael I don't find them or Freddy particularly scary, but just so so fun and entertaining and very rewatchable. I'm currently going through them again. I've only seen the first Friday the 13th! I really want the new boxset so I can watch the rest. I'm not sure about current iconic horror movies or characters. Not like the Monsters of the 30s/40s/50s and the Slashers here. There's a lot of ghost/ possession movies in recent years and while some are good and popular nothing stands out as being particularly iconic to me
Pinhead
The Conjuring multiverse films are the popular horror movies right now
Julian Aguirre to bad those movies suck
I think that the current horror icons from recent slasher films are:
Victor Crowley from the Hatchet series, and Victor Crowley (Hatchet 4).
Chromeskull from the Laid To Rest movies. There are two out now, and a third is in the works.
Also, Art The Clown from the movie Terrifier is pretty badass.
Thank you for another awesome video 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
Art the Clown is definitely well on his way to becoming an icon. I just hope the major studio's don't get a hold of him and water him down.
Jigsaw, modern horror icon.
Donnell Coleman I never said "slasher", just modern horror icon
No.
Great video, you can buy Jason goes to Hell and Jason X on Blu-ray, I got mine from Amazon Germany for 15 Euro's, its like the last few on the Paramount set, two films on one disc, don't know why its only available there, thanks buddy.
I'm 18 and a total fun of the old horror movies, currently busy watching all of the friday the 13th franchise, I'm at part 7. I got a lot to catch up on, haven't seen classics like halloween and nightmare on elm street yet, but plan on watching them.
You have so much awesome stuff ahead of you! Have fun!
Halloween is the film that started the slasher craze, but Black Christmas was the first.
I think you should talk about horror kid shows like grave dale high , the groove ghoulies , monster squad the tv show not the movie , the drak Pack , the hilarious house of frighten stein and of course mummies alive .
If you haven’t seen any of these series I think a gave some food for thought have seen any of these series if so witch ones ?
Drak Pack MAY pop up in a spooky TV video that I want to make soon. I'm just not sure I'm going to have time to make that video, but I might. I've honestly never heard of some of those. Cool recommendations.
Ghostface the icon of the 1990s
I’m suuuuuper late but I agree with all of your picks-some of my favorite slashers are Prom Night (both versions) and Sorority Row for newer ones. I also was partial to the Puppet Master series. Not the best content wise but they were so much fun and they feel iconic in that way for me.
I like the Puppet Master movies too. A few years back, I watched every Puppet Master movie for Halloween. I survived...but barely.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts after you watch Halloween 6 Producer's Cut.
It sounds like you’re coming from a place of knowledge. Is it profoundly better?
i don't know if I'd say profoundly better, but I felt like I understood it much better. The tension was a little tighter. My draw for the film is Donald Pleasance. Of the Michael/Jason/Freddy cabal, Halloween is the only franchise that kept a major character in continuity that wasn't the killer. I felt his performances of Dr. Loomis got better each time, with his madness/obsession on perfect display in Part 4. A great actor that spent the last 20 years of his life's work building this character's trauma. I'm going to rewatch it tonight (last I watched it was 2016) and see what i can relay without any spoilers ;)
What great insight! I’ll try to work it into my October viewing.
Kids' horror icons? Well, my kids are 9 and 6 and they know full well who Freddy, Jason, and Michael Myers are. Also Chucky, Ghostface, Jeepers Creepers and Jigsaw. They haven't seen any of the movies, but other kids talk about them enough that they are aware. My 9 year old has begged me to let him watch Friday the 13th in particular--apparently Jason is still HUGE for kids. They haven't mentioned any of the more recent horror movies, though they do know who Slenderman is.
I know I'm watching this a little late, but I would like your take on Viktor Crowley, personally he is my favorite slasher
I've only seen the first one. I liked it, but I don't remember how he's much different from Jason. I liked the swamp setting.
@@CerealAtMidnight The major differences is he was a daddies boy instead of a momma's boy, doesn't hide is grotesque features with a mask, a lot faster, and a type of cursed ghost who only comes out during the night in the swamp. However you can definitely tell that Jason was the primary inspiration for Viktor, also Kane Hodder himself
They should make a Michael Myers V's Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger movie . I do not know why they have not done that yet or if they even will . I think they should
Brian Durant two different companies
My kids are ages 18, 21 and 23. They go for zombie flicks. I used to catch them watching the Dead movies when they were in elementary and middle school 😬
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So my children told me zombies are a little before their time. They said their generation is paranormal.
I’m not talking about the predator from 1987 I’m talking the one that came out last month. I love predator with Arnold and I love 2 with Glover more.
How about the black Christmas movie and night owl and phantom killer
I have a rare out of print collection of Halloween. It’s the Australian version
I had a (cough) VCD of Halloween Resurrection. I watched the first disc and never bothered with the second disc.
H20 may have been the first I saw, (Freddy was the goto horror in my house growing up.) Halloween III is also one I can rewatch any time of year. The first is great and II is fine, can't remember the others really (have I seen them? 🤔)
Freddy Vs Jason, I was there opening night and everyone there was loving it.
Love of all those movie franchises. Some sequels more than other. Freddy vs Jason as OK. I saw it at the cinema. and was disappointed. I think we all played out there meeting in our heads and discussions with friends that the film would never live up to our expectations. But did watch it again a few years ago and enjoyed it more.
Chucky remake. Urgh! I will watch it to see what it's like. Did enjoy the recent films.
Was a great video. Looking forward to more form this Icons of Horror series dude!
"One, Two, Freddy's Coming For You..."
Doesn't it seem like any time they try to have scifi or horror icons clash, it's never that satisfying? The Aliens VS Predator movies are another example. They can never live up to what we had in our heads. I'm also reminded of the Robocop VS Terminator comics from the 90s.
Yeah I was thinking of Aliens vs Predator also. And darn, forgot about Robocop vs Terminator comic. still got that somewhere here. Also Superman vs Terminator. Comics did lead the way with these. again some better than others. Is fun seeing favs fight it out.
I don't remember Superman vs Terminator! I'm intrigued.
I like they live by John carpenter .
What other John Carpenter movies
Do think I should check out ?
I will tease that by saying there's an Icons of Horror video coming next week that you'll enjoy.
Just in case I don't get that video doesn't happen this October (there's only so much time), I'd recommend pretty much everything John Carpenter directed up to They Live. These aren't all horror, but Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween, The Fog, Escape From New York, The Thing, Christine, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, and Prince of Darkness. And They Live, of course.
For me, a 17 year old now, when I was a kid people still believed the biggest horror icons were Freddy, Jason, Michael, and Leatherface. There is no horror movie slasher orientated that has been released in this generation that is anywhere close to a Freddy, Jason, or Michael. People can argue with Victor Crowley and Jigsaw, but those movies aren’t nearly as good and iconic as the TRUE icons of slashers.
I agree with this 100%.
Tito D Exactly. People claim he is but the Hatchet movies are more like guilty pleasure you can watch with friends, not genuinely good movies
Tito D Yeah you’re right, straight to DVD movies barely get any recognition, not like the Hatchet movies need any
Victor Crowley's a modern day horror icon.
There was a short lived TV series called Slasher that was awesome. came out a couple of years ago.
Syfy is making a new leprechaun which doesn't have dan
The Zombie Halloweens make damn good drink coasters!!!
And I'm a 14 year old and I seek out horror movies from the 50's-2000s. Just recently I watch The Bat from 1959
Nice!
I would like them to remake The Relic and Stephen King Silver Bullet and call it Cycle of the werewolf I really like to see those to remain
Scream is the most well-written slasher of all time.
Scream holds up as the most consistent franchise. It's fun.
I have always liked the remake of Friday the 13th. It was a very effective film. It brought the franchise back to the roots. It was the best movie in the franchise since the old Paramount films. With Freddy vs Jason, it definitely was not perfect, but it was not bad either.
Texas chainsaw massacre in 74 to me started the slasher genre. An my favorite franchise. Even though it's the worst with the time line. Scream definitely kick started horror in the 90's . As did saw in 04 . As I'm an 80's kid and slashers what drew me to horror, As I looked at all the vhs covers at the video store. I watch more psychological horror now. I still watch mostly in the Halloween season. Great video always enjoy them.
I COMPLETELY forgot about Saw and Jigsaw. Do you think those are slashers? I think there's an argument to be made both ways, especially since Jigsaw isn't actually doing the slashing, the characters do it to themselves.
@@CerealAtMidnight saw is more of a psychological horror or some people think its gore porn. But it can always be argued in length ..lol .Similar to the hellraiser films
It even had the [now] cliché group of friends
Halloween is the first slasher film, but it's not. Black Christmas was also the first slasher too. Scream pulls from both Halloween and Black Christmas. I'd love the MTV Scream TV complete series in a nice slim DVD case beside of the 6 movie Scream set.
Dark Night of the Scarecrow is still a great movie, but a remake done well would be great.
I’m 16 and the horror icons of my generation are things like it (the clown) and anabelle a little bit and Freddy is pretty popular but I don’t hear people talk about Michael Myers (my favourite killer in horror) or movies like scream(my favourite horror movie of all time) at least Freddy is pretty popular still
For Thanksgiving I recommend you watching blood rage it’s an 80s horror movie that is a Thanksgiving horror movie one of my favorites and if you can do a video on it
If you have Amazon prime it’s free on Amazon
I love Blood Rage. My buddies at F This Movie did a commentary for it for Scary Movie Month 2017.
www.fthismovie.net/2017/10/ftm-407-blood-rage-commentary.html
Halloween III, Season of the Witch, was my first Halloween movie. I was probably 12-13 years old and was browsing the basement of one of the local video store. This was mid-late 1980s. I knew nothing about these movies, but I remember seeing the VHS-cover. I HAD to see it, and I did. I thought it was a little confusing, but I liked the movie and found it very scary. After that I saw the Terminator, and loved that too. I really like these old gritty R-rated crafty movies that are pieces of art, and created much more independently from all the bullshit that governs movie productions today.
to owner of the Terminator franschise: You want to save this universe? Only one way to do it: Go back to the roots. Make it rated R, and on a small budget.
Everyone I knew who went to see freddy vs jason in the cinemas all enjoyed it at the time. We must have just been weird. Have to agree Freddys Nightmare needs a disc release of the entire series. I still do not understand why the first episode is not on the nightmare movie box set, it relates directly to the movies rather than the episodes they put on it. I'm jealous of the documentaries as I don't have them and they go for a few quid these days
H20 is my favorite sequel to watch in the franchise. I also enjoy watching Resurrection, I agree, it's not a good movie but it's still fun.
I have a lot of catching up to do. I actually like horror and slashers, but i never paid much attention until a few years ago. I've seen most of the first movies of each series you talked about, but rarelly the sequels
I recently bought the Psycho 4 movie set. I'll try to dig into it very soon
An i really want to see the Chucky series. I only saw the first 2 movies i theaters when they came out, and nothing else since
Also, i actually like Freddy vs Jason. I think part of it that on my first viewing, it was at midnight, opening night, and the crowd was really into it. Laughing and gasping at the right places. It's been a while since i saw it, but not that long ago, and i still liked it. I also don't have a huge history with either franchise, so i guess that help
The Chucky movies are crazy. The first three of them are great, straight-forward horror movies about a killer doll. Then they take some time off and come back with Bride of Chucky, a meta movie kind of like Scream that's more parody than straight horror. The sequel is even more of that thing, so weird and unusual and meta. Then they reinvent the series again almost a decade later and make the doll completely scary again. It's a crazy series that has gone to some ridiculous places but that still feels like it has a ton of life in it.
Sometimes i don’t like living in Holland. We don’t have those boxsets. Ive been looking forever for the Halloween Blu Ray box set, but it is only for region 1. Europe has region 2, so i can’t find iT and Play iT on my blu ray player.
Same Goes for the Friday the 13th blue Ray box set. Can’t find it either. And I don’t have the money to change my blu ray player if it is expensive.
Love the video. Slashers are my favorite ones.
Karst, have you ever looked into seeing if you could unlock your Blu-ray player? Sometimes it's as simple as a code you enter into the remote. It's a slim chance, but maybe you'll get lucky.
3 of my 6 local Dollar trees had new movies out already.
awesome mr candy bar !
CHILDS PLAY REMAKE
So the remake is gonna have the same "concept" but hes name aint even gonna be chucky and also hes gonna be a robot doll.
BUT GOOD NEWS..
THE OG CHUCKY FOLLOWING AFTER CULT OF CHUCKY IS GOING TO TV NOW
My favorite 80s horror movie was the funhouse by Tobey Hooper
That's a great one. Tobe Hooper is a very underrated director.
The Creeper from Jeepers Creepers could be considered a modern day monster icon.
Donnell Coleman the Creepers not a child rapist
Donnell, dude, you got to be a little bit nicer to people! But it's true, the director of the Jeepers Creepers trilogy is a convicted child sex offender and served time in prison for it. Because of that, I just can't watch those movies and separate what he did in real life from his work. I didn't find out about it until after I saw the first two movies (which I own), but I don't know if I'll ever be able to watch the third movie.
Donnell Coleman What about Harvey Weinstein? Are you going to stop watching everything he's been involved in because of what he did?
Donnell Coleman Do some research, you might change your mind. Who knows?
I grew up with the Friday the 13th films so I thought Freddy vs Jason was a bad idea that made a worse movie. On the other hand my 13 year old grandson just saw it, it was his introduction to those characters, and he loved it, thought it was the best movie ever.
I think how we feel about Freddy VS Jason depends largely on our history with those characters. I can see it being entertaining for people who didn’t have years of history with them. I’m glad your grandson likes it!
go see how much the tin set of friday the 13th is now on ebay. im glad i bought mine
Any problems with your discs?
no. even if one was scratched im sure it would still work.
The entity from OUIJA 2 would be a nice horror icon if only they made the movies good!
I have the Friday the 13th Blu-ray set that came in the black tin. Every disc plays flawlessly and not a single one scratched. It includes all the original series as well as Freddy vs Jason, the remake and Camp Crystal Lake Memories.
I love the first 2 Texas Chainsaw movies as well as the remake of the first one.
Although I agree the Scream franchise did breath new life into the slasher sub-genre of horror I personally wouldn't consider Ghostface an icon because in each film it's a different character wearing the costume.
The new Child's Play remake has nothing to do with Charles Lee Ray aka Chucky but is going to be robot doll with A.I. that has been hacked and reprogrammed by a rouge programmer.
Congratulations on your Friday the 13th Blu-ray set being pristine! Also, fair point on the Ghostface killa.
For modern horror icons I was going to say Ghostface and Chucky but you hit them both on the head, apparently. I don't watch slasher films as a rule (a combination of too much empathy, too much imagination and too little appreciation for artificial Gore will do that to a person lol) so I don't really keep up with trends. Then again, there haven't really been serialized horror films in the same way in recent years as there have been in the past, either, unless it's something like "Ouiji 8" starring (generic ghost/demon). I don't know if you've noticed that, but it seems I have, is it a thing?
I know they keep making Conjuring movies and they made 76 Paranormal Activity movies, so I think they do, I’m just not Praia my watching them.
I typed this comment on my phone and didn't notice the weird auto correct of "praia my."
Hellreaser ?
Did you like the original IT or the 2017 version?
Honestly, I don't love the TV movie and I still haven't watched the remake. I did read the book, which I also didn't think was great.
Texas chainsaw massacre is my favorite slasher movie but my favorite horror icon is frankinstins monster
I would have to say Friday the 13th is my favorite franchise, despite Halloween being my favorite horror movie. I have the Friday tin and the discs were stored horribly.
Wow. I miss Nightmare on elm street 2010 and Friday the 13th 2009.😁🥰❤️❤️❤️
I completely avoid watching Chucky, just can't do it. It was on tv when I was 5 and I thought it was a kids movie and begged my dad to leave it on and he was like "You really don't want to watch this movie" but I insisted. I forget the scene but Chucky comes on and starts hacking someone with a ruler which lead to 5 year old me screaming and running out of the living room. Good times lol
They get even more intense in the newer installments, too!
@@CerealAtMidnight I think I'll continue to be a wuss and avoid those as well lol Love your channel, keep up the awesome work! Peace!
Iconic horror films of my generation (GenZ) would have to be...
-SAW franchise
-The Conjuring franchise
-Blair Witch Project
-Insidious
-Paranormal Activity
-Final Destination
-The Ring
And most recently It Follows, Hereditary, IT and maybe the Evil Dead remake
It's interesting to me that the through-line for almost all of those in that they're mostly (not Saw) about ghosts or intangible evil.
@@CerealAtMidnight Absolutely, the ghosts and demons are the dominant topic in horror films today. Which I myself am sick of. I would love for monsters and Cronenberg type body horror to make a comeback!
What about my bloody valentine the original
I went to see the 2009 remake of Friday the 13th at the theater and didn't like it. And then I didn't see it again until last year (about 12 years later) and really enjoyed it.
Great video. My favourite horror icon goes to chucky. My favourite horror movie is Child's Play 3.
Nice! Great to see love for Chucky and Child’s Play 3!
Loved Freddy Vs Jason And the Friday remake, The Elm Street remake however is a disaster that Im trying to forget
Also, no hellraiser?
There's been some debate. Do you think of Pinhead as a slasher?
Cereal At Midnight: I know you made this a while ago, and may not respond. However two quick things. 1) I love your channel and presentations. 2) In this version you mentioned you didn't appreciate the Rob Zombie "Halloween" remake and I couldn't agree more. I am curious to know if it's because of the same reasoning as me. The original "Halloween" is one of my favourite horror films and it's especially creepy because we know nothing about Michael Myers except that one night he decided to kill his sister. He has seemingly normal parents, though we know nothing of them either, but that's what makes it creepy to me; one night a young boy snaps and kills his sister for no apparent reason. Cut to the Zombie reboot and we have the trite, hackneyed emo kid with his bangs over his eyes and his head hung low with parents who would make anyone want to murder somebody. To me that completely ruined the concept of the original and just wondered if that was part of the reason for you as well.
Not to mention I agree that classics just shouldn't be remade/rebooted.
Yes, the reason you named for the Rob Zombie Halloween not working is one of the many reasons I think it fails. I also just don't care much for Rob Zombie's "trailer park gothic" approach, and I feel like he just keeps making the same movie over and over again, with Lords of Salem being the only exception. And that's okay, I like House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects alright. If his version of Halloween were something else and not a remake of one of the most beloved classics of the entire genre, I'd be a lot more allowing. I still don't think the movie would quite work or be good, but it would be easier for me to dismiss.
I thought the remake to friday the 13th was really good imo and i did enjoy freddy vs jason but it wasnt great
The remake of F13 was awesome. I don't know why so many people bitch about it.
I don't mean to diminish anyone else's thoughts about the Friday the 13th remake. I was disappointed because, as a remake, they had to repeat elements from earlier entries in the series that I had loved for a long time. It did have some cool, intense scenes in it, though. I look at a movie like Curse of Chucky and see how it both starts a new cycle while also still keeping everything that came before. Curse of Chucky isn't a reboot, but it feels fresh and new. I feel like New Line Cinema doesn't really understand what makes Jason so popular, and I also didn't care for the studio's choice of Marcus Nispel as the director or the fact that Michael Bay was producing. But having said that, I recognize I'm being probably overly critical because I'm very attached to that series. I think it's AWESOME that you dig the movie and I would never speak for anyone other than myself. I wish I did love that movie, and maybe if I watch it a few more times, I will.
Dont worry im mature enough to understand that everyone has different opinions, we may not agree on them all the time but thats why they are our own opinions. Trust me i get alot of crap for saying how much i dislike tcm original and exorcist, i appriciate what they did for cinema history but i watched them after they had been hyped up for yrs, and i found them very underwhelming. But again its just an opinion :)
The sad thing is right after Halloween 6 Donald pleasant died. The real sad thing is I heard pleasant was treated like shit I think during that production I think the director our somebody else had problems our issues with him. That guy was a natural treasure he was perfect as doctor lumis he was awesome in phenonima
which I have only seen once it was years ago I need to see that again. I still need to see inferno.
I heard that too. It’s really unfortunate.
I would add Dr Giggles.
Black Christmas was a great slasher and the remake wasn't that bad.
I like the remake of Friday the 13th and I also like the Freddy V's Jason . I think there good movies in my option
I’m 13 so I’m problem the current generation and out icons are Michael Myers , Jason vorhees, Freddy, ghostface, leprecon, chucky, candyman, alien, and the killer from hush
Cool, thanks for commenting with your take, Ingrid!
The Friday the 13th remake is literally a better version of the first 3 movies
See, this is where personal taste comes in because that’s why I don’t like it. I think it’s an inferior version of the first three movies. For me and a lot of people who love those movies, it’s all about the cast of characters that end up as the victims and survivors, and I wouldn’t trade those kids in the early movies for anything. But to each their own! I’m glad you like the remake! It’s all a matter of personal opinion and I would never try to talk you out of yours.
The new child’s play is a tv show not movies I believe, but I am the same as you Friday the 13th and Jason are my favourite.
After what happened with Ash Vs the Evil Dead (low ratings, cancellation), I'd be hesitant about putting Child's Play on TV, especially when the movies were really doing well. But no one asked me. Long live Jason!
Stuart Fullbrook Don Mancini and Brad Dourif are doing a Chucky tv show and MGM is doing a separate child’s play movie.
The only person winning with this brand split is Chucky’s creator, Don Mancini.
I guess you can throw out all those Halloween sequels because they’re not canon anymore
The new movie is a nightmare being had by Dr. Loomis the night after Halloween II. He’s all hopped up on bad pizza and Molson Ice.