R.I.P. Ultraviolet: The Future of Ownership in a Digital World
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- The Spinner Rack Bros tackle the news that Ultraviolet, one of the very first digital media lockers, has shuttered its doors and will soon be no more. We also revisit the pros and cons of physical media versus digital media and discuss ownership rights in a digital world. This discussion is for fans who love the debate between physical and digital media! Turns out, there's more middle ground that you'd expect.
*Special note: we're still working through technology issues, but this episode is a step forward. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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Digital isn't ownership......its a license....a permission to play it. This is why a love physical
Want to collect movies? Collect the physical disc. I have nearly 1000 blu-rays and about 1500 DVD's. I can watch them at my leisure. Many titles are not available on Netflix or Amazon, and those that are on digital services are fragmented between companies requiring several subscriptions.
My blu-rays are at the highest bit rate available, with uncompressed sound. Digital Streaming does not provide that either, it is heavily compressed. 4K streaming? why? you are not receiving a 4K bit rate. It may be 4K resolution but it certainly is not 4K.
If you want the best, buy physical. For the rest there is streaming - unless the internet goes down, or contention or server issues. And then there are the 'rights issues' - many titles are easily changed in streaming format, often censored and even deleted. Many are there for a short time before *poof* gone. Then there are the EXTRA's that often don't come with streaming/digital.
As for digital copies, you can always rip the content to network attached storage and then you can stream your content from anywhere in the world.
Well said.
@@Power_Glove What he was trying to say is that you buy the blu-ray or dvd and you rip it to your computer and you have the movie digitized so if you need to create space in your house where your movies are, you can get rid of them easier, but not lose the film forever. It could also be smart to rip them to your computer in the off chance the disc scratches and can't be played.
My big issue w Digital is censorship. The Tech giants are not going to leave movies alone. They are going to edit out or delete content according to their personal PC. And sooner or later they will ad commercials to fluff up their revenue. Thats why Physical Media is premium. Keep collecting.
@@jimduggan8962 i remember when cable started. It was supposed to be commercial free. That lasted about a week.
What are you talking about? DVDs have commercials.... at the start and most are skippable but still
I live in a relatively small house with my wife and 3 kids, but I still can't give up my physical media. I've had to get a little creative and move most of my DVD/Blu-Ray to a closet. I also built an 8 foot wall hanging shelf to store my VHS. I make my own digital backup copies using a ripping program and store them on an external hard drive. While I do have some Ultraviolet movies, I almost never watch them.
This issue really concerns me, because while at one time I had physical space for thousands of books, CDs, movies, etc - now I have very little. A lot of my friends are facing the same situation, as they live in single rooms in shared houses or apartments. Kindle books and digital media looked to be an incredible solution, but clearly looks are deceiving. I really enjoyed this video, please continue the conversation.
It's definitely a complicated issue with no easy answers. Thanks for the feedback, we will definitely keep the discussion going.
I think it really depends on what you like about physical media, if it's purely about ownership and having the best quality version of a film, there are many ways around the space issue. You can always store your discs in Tyvek disc sleeves (absolutely make sure you store them vertically. Never, never store 100s of discs on top of each other). If you enjoy the artwork, there are products like DiscSox that are DVD sized sleeves that can hold the artwork and discs at a fraction of the size of a regular DVD case.
While I don't have the issue of space, my friend does. His solution was to dedicate a small area to about 50 of his best titles, and put the rest in a DVD holder with Tyvek disc sleeves. For artwork he stores them in a box in his closet in the event he ever wants to sell a disc.
I rip all my Blurays and DVDs to a hard drive and stream them over a Plex server. Best of both worlds and I'm in full control.
Same. It's a ea,key great solution. However, then you have to manage digital storage including redundancy or backups.
I usually just give my digital codes away since I never use them. I just prefer the actual disc.
@@jimduggan8962 i keep mine never use them at all
Same
I prefer physical media hands down, if you can touch it and hold it, you know it’s yours. I do own 114 titles on Vudu, but I got all of those but 2 through buying the physical copy. Honestly I hardly ever use Vudu, but it’s nice to have as an option.
Been collection physical media for 30 years . I have a collection of vinyl, cds, dvd, blu ray and vhs of about 10,000 probably. I will never switch toi digital. Digital means NOTHING!. It can disappear at anytime. Maybe I am old fashioned but I don't like the idea of spending money on something that I do not own. With my media I can watch it anytime I want, and properly cared for, it will last forever. Also, digital media sucks because there is no artwork or liner notes to appreciate, and usually noi special bonus features or extra content. And the censorship issues are becoming more and more of an issue with digital. I predict that people will really start realizing what they lost in a few years and want to go back to physical media when they see what a horrible medium digital really is.
You are the man for still having VHS. My Mom threw away all of my VHS tapes. Even the ones I paid good money for. Our VHS players are in the garage never to be used again.
Classic example why physical media is king.
@@jimduggan8962 buy physical or you will lose it sooner or later. Digital is fools Gold.
It's not an unfounded concern. Digital purchases do disappear from major platforms, including iTunes. www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Apple/iTunes/Digital_Copies/reminder-you-dont-own-digital-copies/42539
Maybe not, but I do think physical media has a shelf life of at least 20 years. Digital seems to be at the whim of the rights holders, which is why we need to stand up for ownership of digital purchases and make it clear to these gigantic corporations that ownership matters, especially when hard-earned cash has exchanged hands. I am not anti-digital. That's one of the reasons this video is presented in the format in which it is. I believe there's tons of common ground here.
@@CerealAtMidnight
Not all corporations are gigantic.
Control is one of my biggest issues with digital media. If someone does a George Lucas and changes their films digitally it's easy for the provider to change what you watch. Also having films on multiple platforms can get rather silly.
My other issue is the curation of what's available. There are so many good and interesting films that never make it to digital ( and may never). Some of them never even made it from VHS. I also love extras and documentaries on film making and even transfers to blue ray are losing some of this. I recently picked up the Special Edition of Star Trek 2 the wrath of Khan. The bl U ray is a pretty good transfer the colour grading is good they have not over saturated it as some blue ray transfers do. However the extras run to an hour. On the 2002 release there are 5 hours of extras how hard would it have been to port those over. That is why I sometimes have multiple copies of films in different formats. (I have the vhs, DVD and bluray of that).
In addition to agreeing with everything you said, I also want to point out that Robert Wise's extended director's edition has yet to make it to any home video or digital editions since the DVD over 15 years ago.
@@CerealAtMidnight There was a vhs release (which I've got) The DVD release is a really nice one. I'm a huge fan of Star Trek the Motion Picture. The directors version adds some great scenes that really enhance it. I remember seeing it on release (I'm that old) and my Dad who took me hated it I though loved it. I think at the time (post Star Wars) people were expecting Star Trek to be of similar tone which is why it was disliked. I though loved it because it was so different.
I love Star Trek: The Motion Picture too. It is the only one of the Trek movies, in my opinion, that's actively pursuing the thing Gene Rodenberry believed in so deeply.
@@CerealAtMidnight Yes I totally agree about it following the original vision.
With digital, it just never really feels like I own it. It just feels borrowed. At least with physical, I see the boxes on the shelves. This might be a very simple way of viewing things, but I got old school roots. Digital is very convenient though.
Physical media all the way. The boutique labels have been knocking it out of the park the past couple of years and it looks like 2019 is going to be one of the best years ever.
never used ultraviolet in my life
This is why buying dvd/ blu rays is still relevant. The UV codes were a way to jack up the disc prices- because you get a 'combo' pack
We're in the same situation as James was, we don't (really) have the space to collect physical media - yet we are closing in on over 1200 discs not counting the couple dozen television shows we have on physical media. We've dealt with it by buying large CD Binders (that hold 120 - 400 discs). We pull the cover art and inserts out of the cases and store them all in a couple of shoe boxes. The plastic cases then get donated to a local small chain video store. Not the best way to store the physical media, but it works if you're short on space.
Great conversation and I can relate to both sides! I used to collect physical media, and I agree that it is a lot more enjoyable to own pretty much anything that way. But to me personally, it was taking up a lot of space and money, and it was feeding my anxiety big time to a point where it really started to weight me down. I never rewatched any of those discs, so it all just started to feel like a waste of time and space, those items deserved a better home so to speak lol So I got rid of most of it, and now I only keep those few items that I know I will rewatch, or that I truly appreciate and leave everything else to streaming. I avoid things like iTunes or Google Play Movies because of the ownership issue, it's a lot of money to buy a movie that can just suddenly disappear without warning, so if I really have to, I'll rent it instead (it's also much cheaper that way).
Having a physical media collection does not necessarily mean you have to live in a mansion. A collection ban be any size you wish it to be. In 15 years of buying movies on disc I have accumulated little more than a 100 titles. It's because I'm picky, and it's because I can't afford, and don't wish, to hoard. So you don't always need a huge space, you just need to pace yourself. I admit that lately I've been buying a bit more, but I'm always conscious of space. It can be done, as long as you don't buy 10-15 titles each month while having limited space.
Good video, enjoyed it a lot! I will always buy a physical copy of any media, but I only get the physical version of media that I truly love.
Not owning a blu-Ray/4K player sounds utterly insane to me. You cannot trust any streaming service or digital library for archival purposes, and there’s so much stuff on physical media that you simply can’t find digitally.
Discs forever!
I like both physical and digital. Physical is nice for the following reasons: Cool case art, cool special editions (like steelbooks), you get some nice disc art, and no matter what happens, YOU OWN IT, it can't just be taken away from you. It can never be re-edited, taken away, or deleted altogether. In 2000 years, if archaeologists dig up my collection, as long as they have a player, a tv, and the right cords, they can watch my movies. Vudu, Prime Video, and iTunes movies will definitely not be available to watch in 2000 years. You also get to physically see the movie in your hand. However, digital is nice for the following reasons: No shelf space (you could buy 1000 digital movies and take up no space, they can't be damaged (you can scratch a DVD, get fingerprints on it, break it, lose it), digital movies are always in mint condition (because you can't get a digital movie Used- Very Good), you can take them everywhere, you can still watch them when your not at home even if you forget the disc, and you can watch them on your phone/tablet (those don't have bluray players). However, if I had to decide between physical and digital, I would go physical without hesitation
Good point about physical preservation...I hope archaeologists do one day play our DVD collections. That will be pretty amazing. Then they'll think movies were real life haha
You just listed all the reasons that we need to have both physical and digital for the titles we value.
I’m a physical media collector who uses the digital codes as an easy way to let family and friends ‘borrow’ my movies without worrying about damages but with the digital you have to be wary of rights issues I’ve lost about 10 digital movies due to rights issues, that luckily I had the disc to, so buyers beware
You guys, this was a great video discussion and the conversation in the comments shows people are so passionate about it! I love it. I think I now fall somewhere in line between the Spinner Rack Bros. I prefer the physical best but for some things, esp storage space, digital is a plus. For me, digital vs. physical is really just a matter of weighing pros and cons personally and betting that the technology that supports playing that format you pick will outlast you! My bigger worry large scale is the shift to prioritizing streaming in the sense of monthly subscriptions and not owning either a digital or physical copy-everyone just renting content. I mean, I love my Spotify and Netflix, etc, but when catalogs get pulled or titles disappear because of rights or licensing I realize it’s a bad thing I have slowed down buying either physical or digital versions of music or movies or tv I want and love so that I can play when I choose. Who owns content and decides what is available to be seen and what never sees the light of day in any format or may suddenly disappear is maybe the most frustrating thing that not many people seem to care enough about. I think this may be one of the biggest reasons that drives collector instincts. Secondly if the copyright system wasn’t so broken and works of art moved into the public domain as they used to be scheduled to after a certain time, it would incentivize studios to release their product on every format and make them available instead of holding them in vaults. Coprations win and we lose. All these systems are interconnected and it’s fascinating to see how things develop. Anyway, there is so much to say, this topic is so rich and multifaceted! Thanks for advancing the conversation and building this community!
"Corporations win and we lose." Succinctly stated, and so accurate. Thanks for the thoughtful comment, my friend.
I am mainly a physical collector and the uncertainty of studios removing rights has been an issue but programs such as movies anywhere are making me consider digital. Disney was smart to connect different services, it adds security and I can now watch movies on mostly one platform. I would VUDU is my go to only because it unlike apple I can enjoy the app on multiple devices regardless if it is apple or not.
Love my physical media collection and will never fully switch. I do have a small digital media collection mostly for travel purposes. But the few UV movies I have I never redeemed because I didn't want to have movies anywhere but I tunes. Still I have a friend who told be about a way to pull the files on DVD and make your own digital copy. Still I love this format of this video. The discussion format with the two of you is great. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, brother! Hopefully we can keep improving the video and audio quality as we progress so that every video looks and sounds better than the last one.
Great video great topic!!!!
Thanks guys!!!
Great discussion and as a PM guy it was interesting to hear how the other (more than) half lives.
This is why I don't trust digital, period.
i never used Ultraviolet that Much, Probably for like a few movies during the beginning like hugo and tin tin,
but i do prefer physical media as the main thing, digital is basically a freebie to the disc so u could take it with u on a mobile device
itunes is pretty much the most irritating to link in my opinion, it doesn't explain where on the apple site about signing up for itunes, and when you do get your apple account on the itunes pc program, it asks to validate the account, it is so infuriating,
thats why i trust services like amazon, google play, fandango, microsoft, vudu and comcast for movies anywhere
itunes needs to improve its Sign up system, make it way less annoying to ppl
Each background sums up each preference. Digital, clear white wall. Physical, wall full of treasures.
Great video guys
Thanks, dude!
Brilliant to see a dedicated physical and digital collector discussing physical media.as digital (iTunes ) seems to get a really hard time
If you can't hold it on your hands, it doesn't exist.
I love convenience of my iTunes library but at the same time I love that physical media is far more subjected to the laws of economics. My DVD collection outweighs my iTunes as I am typically able to pick up films for half to even one forth the price.
Never liked the idea of digital movie purchases. I want to be able to handle the media and know that I own it outright. You can have the movie back when you pry it from my cold dead hands! lol
I hate digital media, it doesn't make much of a difference to me if I get it in a blu-ray package. It's pretty much renting and you are at the whim of the service. I hate digital games as well.
Once physical stuff is gone, I'm gone with buying stuff.
On the other hand I do like streaming when it's bad out, late at night, or if I just wanna check something out but not necessarily own it.
But yes, overall it really sucks and I hope physical never goes away completely.
Unfortunately I paid for many movies and TV series on both amazon and GooglePlay before realizing the lack of actual ownership I have over my "purchases." In fact, amazon surreptitiously DELETED my entire memory card full of movies on my Amazon Fire tablet when I moved from the US to Canada (apparently the digital rights don't extend here)... I wish now I'd known to leave the wifi off so they wouldn't have detected my location. D'oh!
Is there any way to download movies that I purchased on amazon or GooglePlay?
What a horror story, Greg! I don't know much about Google Play (I'm the disc guy in this video conversation), but maybe someone else will see this and can help.
OKAY but with Digital you lose ALL the Bonus stuff like Commentary tracks that kinda sucks
Great video! It was a nice to see James again. (James' are the best) On topic I have maybe a handful of digital movies so it's not really an issue for me. For me it's I either own a physical copy, rent it, or I just stream it. Granted that's not the greatest if I'm looking for a movie and really can't find it. I think the main cause for the downfall of Ultraviolet is your casual movie fan streams or they just illegally get a digital copy. So many people I know tease me for owning a physical copy of a movie with "if you can't stream it just download it" I'm lucky in that space isn't an issue..... yet.
Digital movie sales are definitely higher than physical, but streaming rental/video on demand is the big winner, beating both. Ownership just does't seem that important to the majority.
I very rarely buy digital I actually bought a couple last week in a special offer iTunes but never used ultraviolet
I think a happy medium to collect physical and not take up space is to throw the DVD or Blu Ray case away and just store the discs in a book.
Just gotta be careful with those CD/Media books as they are known to cause damage to the discs eventually. I think paper sleeves might be a better option for those considering this. Something in the plastics seems to promote bit rot over a period of years.
@@CerealAtMidnightThe movies you buy are in plastic so then is that a factor?
What about plastic sleeves? Now that you say that I hope plastic sleeves don't do that.
That's why you should mostly buy what you love. I mean love like you can't live without.
No. I'm specifically talking about those large CD/media binders where a flap of flexible, acidic plastic is pressed directly against the disc top. More and more people are discovering there's some sort of chemical reaction that can occur. Doesn't seem to happen to everyone and may even be rare, but it's something to be aware of. Temperature may be a factor.
@@CerealAtMidnight That is a good point. The discs are made of plastic and may chemically react with the plastic on the sleeve. I have experienced disc rot with DVDs but not with Blu Rays. If you can find someone knowledgable about the topic, this would make for a good video discussion.
Comics often get edited and changed upon reprint and even more so digitally.
I have about 2000 movies on DVD and blu ray,
I collect physical media, however, I only buy what I like. I feel like some people just buy stuff cuz it's cheap, but they never watch it. For example, A Beautiful Mind. Great film, but I guarantee you'll never watch it more than once.
I used to think that, but I guarantee you that somewhere there’s a guy who comes home from work everyday and watches A Beautiful Mind. But I do take your point!
I see the DBZ Blu Ray set in the back .
Pro tip: I buy the 17 liter really useful box. It can store 3 rows of discs in sleeves about 600 a box. If you use thin sleeves. It much cheaper then binders
As I buy disc lots. I always keep two copies of discs and resell any duplicates after that. As much as I like to have shelves. It’s nice to quickly search my spreadsheet and grab sorted box it’s in. My hope is plex will be able to use api to Apple, amazon, etc to be a landing place.
What's Plex and Api?
Plex is a client / server software to hold digital media on a pc. They generally are drm free media files. Apis are interfaces used between software to reference each other. Plex just integrated tidal music service recently.
Honestly I’ve bought physical never been a fan of digital. I get what y’all are saying, but physical is where it is for me like it’s mainly because iTunes, and all of them companies charge way way way too much you know? Like I was bored one day, so I went on iTunes just to see what kinda shows they had. I looked up “The Sopranos” they had the SD version for I believe it was like 99.99$ then they had the HD version for 124.99$ physical copies the DVD version costs like 40.00 to 55.00 (depending on the seller) Blu-ray is higher but seen it go for 60 to 80..... a whole lot cheaper than iTunes. I may not have much space or cash, but that’s the whole more reason to buy physical you know? I’m a movie collector, and I’m also a TV show collector as well as CDs and some video games I enjoyed the video by the way.
Digital doesn't work for me at all, and physical is almost always cheaper than digital. I get that some people have circumstances in their lives where they can't have a larger amount of physical media (like James in this video), but for me, it's physical forever.
I don't know if it fits to the subject exactly, but I think stores in order to keep physical media alive need to 1 Not take sides because there's obviously enough people who buy physical, and 2 Move to a pre-order, back order, on demand order and limited supply system that gives the power to the physical media geeks and fans. This way studios and stores don't lose money stocking shelves of things people won't buy or too much. And there's enough of the product in stock so if someone couldn't buy it the exact day it came out they don't have to travel store to store, long drives looking for just 1 specific item. People don't always trust or like ebay and Amazon providers and their prices. This way people can back order an item and get it shipped directly too them or to their store and supporting an actual store and not scalpers.
Secondly, studios if they really wanna get with the times they'd not only create their only digital platforms, good job to Disney! And they'd create a studio based movie club like Disney. Again, Disney's way ahead of the game. But studios don't HAVE to do this again if they just went to the system I described. Same thing could go for digital. Studios create a digital movie club through digital platforms and that way people have the power to get the movies with good deals and they support the studio and platform without simply making platforms struggle to buy the rights from the studios and studios moving rights around. They need to stop jerking the customers around and just form bonds between studios, stores, platforms and customers and these issues can get solved. Walmart and Best Buy are stores that can make that system work and since Walmart already has a digital platform if studios worked with them with movie clubs and such a system Walmart could keep its customers support both physically and digitally and studios would benefit with customers staking out one place and one platform. It's either that or we have chaos until businesses like Disney just put the others studios and stores out of business and force you to do it their way. Now isn't that a scary thought?
I'd also propose theaters being a place where you can buy media, memorabilia and merch, and doing what they do with Stubs and Vudu to stay in business. And again make it a movie club experience. I have no clue why studios and theaters never made theaters the outlet for selling movies, media and merch and make them movie & media club experience venues. If I owned my own AMC that's what we'd convert to.
Let me know what you think sorry it was a lot.
I really like the way you're thinking, but I gotta be honest, I think that ship has sailed. If you look at sales from the boutique labels, there are probably around 10,000 die-hard dedicated physical media fans holding up the market. There's a bigger casual audience, but when it comes to people who are going to pick up catalog titles, there's just not enough of us to justify these methods, in my opinion. I also don't think the studios are ever going to work together because they see it as a conflict of interest. Even if they did realize that they're on the Titanic and they need to work together, I think Disney is now in a position--after their Fox purchase--to crush all competition. As for physical media in theaters, again, I think there's too much of a conflict of interest there, too. You'd have to work with every studio equally (Sony would want equal representation as Warner, for example) and then how do you decide what media to sell? Plus, theaters market their product as an experience that can't be replicated at home. To sell home media in a movie theater would be like going to a restaurant and seeing vending machines in the lobby. They would essentially be selling you a home-based experience instead of coming back to the theater for the thing that they offer. I like that you're thinking outside the box, though, and this is just my take.
@@CerealAtMidnight😂 You're so right on the theater part. But merch and special movie items still would help. I guess that means it'll have to be a movie club experience that takes over after theaters go.
I have 8 of those titles you showed from 2020. No Hammer Shout Blurays ? I added 68 Bluray & 4K UHD titles to my collection in 2020 ! That was the most ever for me. I hope 2021 is just as good for me.
The Hammer 20-movie collection from Mill Creek is in the 2020 video. Didn't buy any of Scream Factory's discs.
Like i have read and videos have debated or try say why physical media, will always be the want to have it on dvd or other storage so incase u cant get a service cause of budget that u then can check what u got and rewatch any movie or tv series to fill the gap at anytime. so as long as u dont give up having ur collection, u always be ready to enjoy what u have still.
I've only used the Ultraviolet codes I got in the DVDs or Blu Rays a couple of times. It was never a selling point to me when I got the discs. I would have used it if you could download the film to the back up hard drive or laptop that you could play on a standard media player. Is sad for people who do use it a lot though. Like you i'm not against digital content collection. Can be a good extension to peoples physical media collection. I guess UV was good if you travel a lot and can access you movies anywhere. But there are other ways people can access films and shows with Netflix, iTunes, Amazon, etc... so I don't think UV going will effect the majority of people who only have a passing interest I just watching movies or TV shows. Just my thoughts on the topic.
Digital seems to me like your just renting it for a longer period of time.
So flixster died in the usa but here in canada we still use flixster video, i know i had to make a UV account when i started but whats the point of it anyway if my movies are in flixster?
Physical copies for me, the packaging, books and knowing you actually own it is important to me. Get rid of Netflix and bring back blockbuster!
Damn James your wall looks so lonely and bare😥 LOL. Great video guy's😀👍 On a serious note i prefer the physical 100% especially since we live in a."cancel culture". I believe it is going to get worst. Im a big believer in having total control of what i want to watch whenever i want to watch,censorship sucks! Movies are endanger of being edited or done away with completely. So yeah physical all the way👍
depending on you and your situation (budget, space, time, etc), physical and digital should really be a matter of choice. do you want to ''own'' or do you want to simply ''have the access to''. even back in 80s-00s not everybody bought physical media, most people simply wanted the ''access to'' which video stores could provide. the cyber world changed the ''access to'' hence video stores are closing everywhere. but, it does not change the ''owning'' aspect hence we still see new titles on physical media. we have to understand that to many (or even most) people, movies are just like newspaper, they just need the news but don't have to own/collect the paper while some would make clipings for different purposes/reasons. i personally think we should use both physical and digital and stop debating over which one is better😉😉😉
Well said! But then that raises a whole separate conversation about the lack of availability of titles. With movie licensing issues being where they are these days, I actually own more movies than Netflix has on their entire service. Hulu isn't even close. The movies aren't really going to other services or proprietary streaming services, either, they're just disappearing completely. If most consumers are fine with simply having access (newspaper style, like you said), then access has a long way to go.
Physical Media will never die!!! The way he doesn't seem to outlandish though and makes sense in his situation. I don't understand though why people that don't care for the physical media don't buy the physical copy then sell it and keep the digital or maybe they do? Doesn't seem like purchasing the digital copy is really that cost effective.
That’s a valid point. Physical media is almost always cheaper. Maybe it’s just too much work? Too many steps?
The death of UV sucks, but it won't affect me thst much. I had about 100 titles on it, but i never used it. Maybe a couple of times, at work when i was bored. But now i'll just go to my google play account. I have a bunch on itunes, but since i'm on android, i can't stream it on my phone. At home i never stream. I register to netflix only a couple of times a year when i want to see something
In canada we get screwed a little bit more, because we don't have all the services you have and not all of the UV stuff is switching to a service that' available to us.
That's interesting news about losing some Ulraviolet content because you guys don't have all the services that are available in the states. That seems like something that really needs to be pointed out. It makes the conversation about ownership all the more relevant.
@@CerealAtMidnight there is the same issue in the U.K. the only service that works with U.V is flixster which closed down in the U.s last year so how long it stays open here who knows.
Tbh UV wad pretty trash to be honest
I love my digital movies collection ive used most digital distributors but ive found itunes is best, they have upgraded all my movies to “4k” if it is available, also streams dobly vision and atmos. I have physical as well but like having the library for when im traveling and for when im lazy and honestly in 2020 it is super easy to cast to my roku that has the apple tv app. It is flawless. Another thing, i have used old digital codes for movies that have expired on itunes and they still work!
What if I have never redeemed my digital codes for my physical media that came with the UltraViolet option? Will I still be able to redeem and transfer those to Movies Anywhere or to a lesser extent, Vudu? Thanks for your help fellow commenter or Cereal At Midnight :)
A lot of those codes expire by a certain date. I bought a movie a the Dollar Store and its code had ready expired.
If you're in the United States, you should be able to link all those movies through a different service. You have until July 31st (I believe that was the date I mentioned in the vid) to link your Ultraviolet account with one of the other main services like Movies Anywhere and VUDU. Doing so should basically transfer your library. Good luck!
In my experience, a lot of codes are still functional long after the expiration date. Not always, but quite often. Worth a shot to try and redeem them while you can.
doctorsmoothlove Thanks for responding! I love getting movies for a dollar! :)
Cereal At Midnight Thanks for your help! Most of my movies are at my parents' house but once I get them back I'll link them all before that date. That way I don't lose access to the digital copy.
I still do physical, but I now rip for plex. Digital can work, and it's sad it doesn't. It can reduce waste if done right. Steam got it right with games. The publishers can remove their game from the Steam store, but customers still have access to it, and codes for the game will still work. You can even download them way after they are removed from the store. Also the sales are amazing. You can also add non-steam games. I still do physical for consoles because the sales are garbage. I buy all my pc games digital these days.
Imagine a platform where you can buy pretty any movie or tv show, and for a good price with nutty sales, and never have it taken from you; Imagine being able to import ripped blu rays along side them. Imagine being able to download the mkvs somehow with drms that work offline, like offline downloaded xbox games, with fair use allowed.
ofc the one downside is not being able to resell, so you cant get spare change for old crap u regret buying, but at least it doesn't take up space.
for now: LONG LIVE BLU RAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (especially for those in rural areas)
ps: spotify & tidal pretty good ngl
Its why I tell my friends who buy alot of digital media to stick to physcial. The only digital I own is when I get the code with it for free. Wonder how many people are gonna lose a big part of their collection.
Im keeping my physical copies.
What is the last thing you said ? About Isp and data?
In the US, we just deregulated the Internet, meaning that there are no real legal limits as to what internet providers can do and get away with in their prices and practices. No oversight. And in an increasingly digital world, they now have more control than literally ever before. We will talk about it soon.
I see these videos and I always ask the same question. If you like physical but also like the ability to have digital why not buy the movie and digitize with MakeMKV and run a Plex server. From the video it sounds like you have hard drive space. I have a nice collection but most are in a box in my basement or garage. When I buy a movie, first thing I do is use MakeMKV digitize it and but it in my Plex server. Full original Blu-Ray quality and sound. Plus for the movies I really like I will also do the Special Features, and let Plex do the rest. I hear people losing their digital library, but the quality of those are not good. A HD digital quality is almost 720P. Back up your library to original quality and then use Handbreak to rip to what ever portable quality you want, if you want to carry it with you. For me I just keep it to original quality, use Plex to view it at original quality. Or if i'm streaming it outside my home Plex can downgrade it if needed depending on the network speed. My personal Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, or in this case Ultraviolet that will not disappear after a contract is over with.
Why are we even talking about this when we have the digital wonderland called Movies Anywhere? I prefer physical media as well but Movies Anywhere is pretty awesome.
We're talking about it because Ultraviolet just went belly up a few days ago and it was the first real multi-company digital movie service. It had a huge marketing push behind it and seemed like it would be around forever. Not unlike Movies Anywhere...
UV was never great like Vudu.
Thank you for not apologizing for being white
i like dvds and blu rays
Reading a comic book on a digital screen should be a criminal offense! How can you possibly appreciate the inks and the colors and the great illustrations on a damn computer screen??
Man, piss off. Not all of us have access to a comic store since they're virtually extinct and most bookstores near me only sell trades over single issues. I want to follow my series issue by issue over waiting for the trade so what other choice do I have than to use digital. It's nowhere near as good as holding a physical issue, but in this day and age where the only surviving comic stores are either The Secret Stash or others way out of my way digital is the best I can do over waiting until a trade is released.
I still buy physical media. love to own a movie better then Netflix what to watch. Netflix it's just movie rental store on a phone app they will upload whatever they want. HULU only has tv shows there selection of movies SUCK.
Could you actually buy ultraviolet or were they just free when you bought the movie. I'm a physical movie all the way. It's the golden Age of buying physical media at the moment, so cheap especially preowned or at charity stores, I buy all those old movies I never owned and only pay like $1 or $2.
I don't think you could purchase anything directly through Ultraviolet, it was more like a storage locker for purchases from other places and redeemed codes. But if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me. I have like 600 digital copies, but they're all in VUDU now. And I'm with you, this channel is almost entirely about my adventures collecting physical media and the bargains I find. I've got a fourteenth thrift store video dropping soon.