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  • @durzostern
    @durzostern 4 месяца назад +318

    I knew it would be bad when they announced a Madame Web movie lol. Who asked for that!?

    • @lanatsif
      @lanatsif 4 месяца назад +17

      Fr like i understand their fixation on making reboots and sequels but this? Just why? 😂

    • @alejoclosa7705
      @alejoclosa7705 4 месяца назад +28

      who thought this was a good idea? as far as i know Madame Web as a character is suposed to be a plot devise and info dumper for multiversal stories involving Spider-Man

    • @ferhog7705
      @ferhog7705 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, I mean what's next? A Guardians of the Galaxy movie?

    • @dakotacarmel4640
      @dakotacarmel4640 4 месяца назад +4

      No one no one ask for this.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ferhog7705Yeah "Who asked for this?" isn't a good critique. Audiences don't know what they want. GotG worked because it was a good movie.

  • @2099EK
    @2099EK 4 месяца назад +137

    "The writing is so stilted it's hurricane proof" is a good line. Haha

  • @vib80
    @vib80 4 месяца назад +213

    Next time we'll get that third piece of Spider Wisdom: With responsible power comes greatness.

    • @Mereologist
      @Mereologist 4 месяца назад +29

      Comes with power responsibility great great!

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 4 месяца назад +13

      Yoda says “Responsibility power comes with, yes.”

    • @mchammer5592
      @mchammer5592 4 месяца назад +3

      With great power comes great rescronsabilitrust. Key and Peele

    • @nyetzdyec3391
      @nyetzdyec3391 4 месяца назад +4

      That's the way it *should* be... power used responsibly deserves greatness...
      The way modern writers are, they are more likely (if they are being honest) to spout something like... "With power, there is no responsibility."

    • @thiefofa1073
      @thiefofa1073 4 месяца назад

      #4, #5 & #6: The 50 Shades of Web trilogy
      - Coming greatly is how yow can respond
      - Responsibly come with great power: The dildo deception
      - Great come is your responsibility

  • @nikibogwater6598
    @nikibogwater6598 4 месяца назад +145

    Using CPR to treat poisoning is this movie's version of that scene from Robyn Hood where the evil police lady is going over drone footage and says "switch to thermals" to make the camera zoom in.

    • @thephoenixhasflown
      @thephoenixhasflown 4 месяца назад +14

      Oh I see these guys have seen red versus blue before.

    • @Data-Expungeded
      @Data-Expungeded 4 месяца назад +3

      @@thephoenixhasflownRed Vs Blue was really good though

    • @MikeTheD
      @MikeTheD 4 месяца назад +5

      They just wing it so hard and you can tell it's all so SHALLOW. Really stupid mistakes like that happen way more these days, and more egregious.

    • @thephoenixhasflown
      @thephoenixhasflown 4 месяца назад

      @@Data-Expungeded for a while there it was amazing

    • @markcollins1516
      @markcollins1516 4 месяца назад +3

      Actually CPR may be required to survive a blue ringed octopus bite as its venom causes paralysis. It generally doesn't affect the heart but it does effect the diaphram.

  • @TheSouloftheDragon
    @TheSouloftheDragon 4 месяца назад +256

    With the writers of Morbius behind this movie, one shouldn't be surprised at the quality.

    • @apollion888
      @apollion888 4 месяца назад +10

      I wonder what franchise Sony will give them to kill next?

    • @ShadeMeadows
      @ShadeMeadows 4 месяца назад +5

      To this day I still don't get why people hate on Morbius.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 4 месяца назад +3

      In saner times, those writers would’ve been laughed out of Hollywood, right after that abortion flopped.

    • @ColinFox
      @ColinFox 4 месяца назад +7

      @@ShadeMeadows Because it's absolute garbage?

    • @cpuuk
      @cpuuk 4 месяца назад +2

      They had Leto and Morbius- just how do you screw that up.

  • @shinkaiatsuya950
    @shinkaiatsuya950 4 месяца назад +181

    Let their be Carnage, Morbius and now Madame Web. Sony really knows how to pull off a hat trick of failures.

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 4 месяца назад +18

      Ironically, all had potential to be done well.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 4 месяца назад +19

      What they did to Carnage was absolutely criminal. Another victim to D E I/E S G.

    • @nickbrutanna9973
      @nickbrutanna9973 4 месяца назад +5

      @@crazyralph6386
      You also have to blame horribly bad CGI. It was clear that they couldn't get the CGI to look like anything but a hot pile of feces, so they blurred half the fight shots.

    • @nickbrutanna9973
      @nickbrutanna9973 4 месяца назад +8

      What is really strange is how well they did with the latest Spiderman trilogy. It's the best Spiderman ever, no question. They really need to figure out who in that production team has talent and use them for more stuff... as mentors if nothing else, to other types.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +5

      @nickbrutanna9973 Not really. Homecoming is the most skippable and forgettable MCU film. Far From Home was just OK, but yet again focused on Peter cleaning up Tony's messes. The 3rd movie had all the cameos and Easter eggs. That one highlighted that they really didn't build up Spiderman's world within the MCU. They even managed to screw up the Flash Thompson character. How do you screw up the stereotypical bully character?

  • @guygadbois3010
    @guygadbois3010 4 месяца назад +84

    The writers, Sazama and Sharpless, also wrote: Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Gods of Egypt, Power Rangers, Morbius. Hollywood just doesn't know how to improve.

    • @hcu4359
      @hcu4359 4 месяца назад +5

      I liked Gods of Egypt, and I'm told Dracula Untold has some redeeming traits.

    • @firefoxriouyh6541
      @firefoxriouyh6541 4 месяца назад +6

      Dracula untold is extremely good.❤ I love it. I wish it had sequel.
      Dracula untold was first and last good movie 2014 before Hollywood producing trash after 2016.

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 4 месяца назад +1

      @@hcu4359Except they miscast Luke Evans.

    • @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr
      @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr 4 месяца назад +4

      @@firefoxriouyh6541 just because a movie is good doesn't mean it needs a sequel. why cant good movies just be good without needing more...

    • @auramaster8763
      @auramaster8763 4 месяца назад

      Which season of Power Rangers?

  • @DarthBobCat
    @DarthBobCat 4 месяца назад +48

    Also, she stole that taxi and just drives around this stolen taxi for a week straight... Including to the airport.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +15

      RIGHT?! Don’t taxis have lo-jack? Just because she broke the plates off, that doesn’t solve the problem!

    • @DarthBobCat
      @DarthBobCat 4 месяца назад +11

      @@gregowen2022 Or somebody would notice and raise an eyebrow at a plateless, damaged new York taxi sitting in an airport parking garage.

  • @steverl22
    @steverl22 4 месяца назад +48

    I'm convinced.... Hollywood HATES money 🤔

    • @DaNinja60
      @DaNinja60 4 месяца назад +4

      I know, right? So far it looks like the only movie that has been any good is that last Godzilla film. It looks like other countries still know how to blend good story telling with CGI for a low cost.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +15

      They have to, right? There must be a tax reason this went to theaters, because everyone involved knew it was crap

    • @jameswilliams-zr8co
      @jameswilliams-zr8co 4 месяца назад

      no shallow clueless hollyweird hates smart audiences that want fun entertaining movies, and they wonder why people watch them online for free, this crap is garbage

  • @ignorethis214
    @ignorethis214 4 месяца назад +100

    I hate that they made Ezekiel a villain. I love him in Spiderman's first fight against Morlun and hate how they wasted him in this trash.
    But the extent of their thought process: 'Rich White guy? BAD!'

    • @RoverIAC
      @RoverIAC 4 месяца назад +7

      What? You mean he was a character before this? He wasn't even a character in this.

    • @javonyounger5107
      @javonyounger5107 4 месяца назад +14

      @@RoverIAC No one was.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +16

      He had zero reason to be here other than the script telling him to. I know it’s not technically MCU, but this would be the worst villain BY FAR

  • @shawnwykoff8744
    @shawnwykoff8744 4 месяца назад +48

    In the dim-lit halls of cinematic woes,
    Where shadows dance and laughter flows,
    Gathered are those with pockets lean,
    For a peculiar spectacle, a curious scene.
    They come, not for the glamour or the fame,
    But for the cringe, the ridicule, the shame.
    A motley crew with a shared decree,
    To witness the spectacle, the absurdity.
    For coin they endure the cinematic plight,
    Through plots contrived and acting trite,
    Their eyes may cringe, their souls may weep,
    Yet they soldier on, their vigil to keep.
    They laugh at the dialogue, wooden and stale,
    And marvel at plots that always fail.
    They mock the monsters, the CGI crude,
    And the heroes whose fates seem so skewed.
    But amidst the chaos, a bond is found,
    In the laughter that echoes all around.
    For in this shared folly, they find delight,
    In the madness of movies that defy the light.
    So here's to the brave souls who dare to tread,
    Where bad movies dwell and dreams have fled.
    For in their quest for laughter and gold,
    They find treasures untold, in stories untold.

    • @ColinFox
      @ColinFox 4 месяца назад +1

      ChatGPT is pretty good at poetry, gottay say.

    • @gv100_blitz
      @gv100_blitz 4 месяца назад

      Last line is gold

    • @ThePrinceOfNigeria
      @ThePrinceOfNigeria 4 месяца назад +1

      I'd like to see more of your poetry please

  • @DarthBobCat
    @DarthBobCat 4 месяца назад +85

    It was an amazing watch, because I can't think of the last movie I saw where NOTHING worked.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +16

      Right? Usually even a broken clock is occasionally correct. This might not have been worse if they TRIED to make it worse!

    • @DarthBobCat
      @DarthBobCat 4 месяца назад +4

      @@gregowen2022 the sad thing is, they could have just adapted the Morlun and Ezekiel story from J. Michael Stracyanki with a Spider Woman, maybe have Madame Web as a supporting character. But that would have required people to know the comics.
      I love how Ezekiel was pointlessly barefoot and they never explained why. It's because his shoes got in the way of clinging to walls.

    • @DUKEzors
      @DUKEzors 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@DarthBobCatIsn't Ezekiel more of an anti-hero than villain? I was reading the arc that introduced him way back in the day. Maybe I'm not recalling correctly.

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 4 месяца назад +4

      Its like theres a literal race to the bottom between studios who can hire the worst and most incompetent people to write and direct this avalanche of week old trash. Madam Web is all the worst of Post-Endgame hero movies perfectly distilled into a putrid sauce.

    • @DarthBobCat
      @DarthBobCat 4 месяца назад +2

      @@DUKEzors right, he has his own agenda, but is no villain.

  • @samgrisham1147
    @samgrisham1147 4 месяца назад +25

    So let me get this straight. A pregnant woman in what I assume is in her third trimester, thought it responsible to go on a scientific expedition in the jungles of Peru? Like, what?!? If that was the thought process from the beginning then the rest of the movie didn’t stand a chance. I in no way expect everything in a movie to be realistic but it has to make sense for a cohesive story. Are they even trying anymore? A rhetorical question, the answer is obviously no.

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 4 месяца назад +3

      I don’t think this was written by women who know anything about pregnancy. Or comic books. Or writing. Or…

  • @crunchynachos3922
    @crunchynachos3922 4 месяца назад +103

    2:46 Ah good old "As you know Bob" exposition.
    Isn't this like one of the first things writers are warned against?

    • @blueflare3848
      @blueflare3848 4 месяца назад +7

      Pretty much.

    • @secondaegis9190
      @secondaegis9190 4 месяца назад +13

      The "As we all know" exposition set up might be the worst one ever conceived. Like, it makes sense in some contexts, but it just falls apart outside of them

    • @bryanwigmore7224
      @bryanwigmore7224 4 месяца назад +5

      No one else uses it, so these guys thought it was original.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +19

      It was as cliched as it gets. What’s weird is that these productions have so many layers. I understand how something like this can be written, but didn’t anyone HEAR it during the table read?!

    • @ejd53
      @ejd53 4 месяца назад

      Show, don't tell.

  • @MichaelCravith
    @MichaelCravith 4 месяца назад +38

    So what we have is Dakota Johnson being awkward, being ill-suited to the role, and starring in a film that isn't particularly interesting beyond a flashy premise and is actively disinformative at times. Where have I seen this before?
    Greg video, Greg.

    • @Frip36
      @Frip36 4 месяца назад +4

      Greg comment Michel.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +11

      Ha! And this one didn’t even have the blunt “hey look, sex!” Of the other. Thanks, Mike!

    • @DerrickMims
      @DerrickMims 4 месяца назад

      At least she spent half of that movie naked.

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 4 месяца назад +8

      Dakota Johnson is legitimately a terrible actor. It is kind of funny they keep picking black holes of charisma like her or Brie Cheese to play these leading heroines

  • @thespiderman630
    @thespiderman630 4 месяца назад +43

    So that whole scene in the trailer when they had their spider costumes on was just a dream scene???? I didn’t think it was gonna be that bad 🫣

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +25

      Literally 30 seconds of the whole movie and they used it on posters and everything. Should be illegal

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 4 месяца назад +6

      @@gregowen2022 bait and switch

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 4 месяца назад +2

      I know people praise Batman begins for taking its time getting Bruce into the suit, but them NEVER actually becoming superheroes, like John Connor (who was eventually killed as a kid anyway) is taking it about 3 levels too far.

    • @ICatSea
      @ICatSea 4 месяца назад

      The ol Kangaroo Jack

  • @IamthNight
    @IamthNight 4 месяца назад +25

    The old ladies from the GEICO commercial 😅

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +3

      One of my favorite standbys

  • @weggman1984
    @weggman1984 4 месяца назад +12

    But, Greg, we learned so much about CPR, family, neurotoxins, and Peru! THIS WAS BASICALLY FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE IN ONE SINGLE MOVIE GREG

    • @nuncio21
      @nuncio21 4 месяца назад

      😅nice

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +20

    If i was making this movie, the plot would be like Terminator, but with Spiderman. Madam Web and the other 2 teleport to different universes to do a job specific to that universe. Sort of like eXiles. They can't leave until the job is done. This universe they have to protect Mary and Ben Parker, as well as ensure that Mary gives birth to Peter. All while being chased by the Bad Guy, who wants to kill Spiderman in every universe. They eventually kill him and its revealed that there is an entire society dedicated to killing Spiderman. Also, Marketing opportunity of Baby Peter Parker in a little outfit with Spiderman's colors.

    • @JeffCaplan313
      @JeffCaplan313 4 месяца назад +3

      I'd watch that.

    • @mungosmungo8694
      @mungosmungo8694 4 месяца назад

      That sounds trash too.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@mungosmungo8694 you're trash Brock

    • @chrisblanc663
      @chrisblanc663 4 месяца назад +3

      That sounds better then what this movie was, and this movie was written by “professionals”
      Kinda makes me rethink the definition of “professionals.”

  • @CurtisDofMontana
    @CurtisDofMontana 4 месяца назад +6

    The cast of Batgirl is saying how did this movie get made and released 😡 and our movie was deleted from the universe WTF 😂😂😂

  • @dimebag505
    @dimebag505 4 месяца назад +7

    Your comparison of watching New York Stock footage and someone outside the cinema shouting Spiderman had me in fits 😂😂😂

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 4 месяца назад +18

    At this point Marvel isn't evne trying any more and virtually anything superhero related not coming from Japan is gonna be garbage.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +5

      And what’s crazy is they have the stories already written by comic pros and sales data to back up what works and what doesn’t!

    • @thefanwithoutaface8105
      @thefanwithoutaface8105 4 месяца назад +5

      @@gregowen2022 Ah but they weren't written for MODERN AUDIENCES

    • @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr
      @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr 4 месяца назад +4

      this is by sony, it's not the mcu

    • @BainesMkII
      @BainesMkII 4 месяца назад +2

      This is Sony still trying to cash in with any/every Spider-Man-related character property that they continue to hold the movie rights for. Regular Spider-Man works, until they decide it isn't working well enough and reboot it to start the same cycle over again. Animated Spider-man has been a major success. They saw some success with Venom. They put out a Morbius movie and a Madame Web movie, and they'll be releasing a Kraven movie later this year.

    • @kathyp1563
      @kathyp1563 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BainesMkIISony is also the studio which produced "Into the Spiderverse" which is very, very good.

  • @kevinmccabe7263
    @kevinmccabe7263 4 месяца назад +19

    Why did they cast Sydney Sweeney, one of the sexiest women in the world, for a high school character dressed in baggie overalls and frumpy glasses? Was the sequel supposed to be like a She's All That kinda thing?

    • @He-who-wakes
      @He-who-wakes 4 месяца назад

      Idk seems pretty hot to me

    • @MirandaSinistra
      @MirandaSinistra 4 месяца назад +11

      Made no sense whatsoever, you can tell from her wardrobe they were trying desperately to cover up her sweater cows.
      I'm not saying she doesn't have talent outside her body but most of the audience for her aren't paying much attention to her line delivery.

    • @modernmobster
      @modernmobster 4 месяца назад

      There's millions of hotter women than her.

    • @thephoenixhasflown
      @thephoenixhasflown 4 месяца назад

      You actually don't know what's going on yet, I kind of like that.

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 4 месяца назад +4

      It almost looks as if they went out of their way to de-emphasize her two most noticeable assets. Why?

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 4 месяца назад +16

    Wait, so the bird lives? Wouldn't it have had more impact if the bird was her first vision and it died but later she sees her co-worker dying but that gives her the will to try to change fate and save him, making her question the possibility of having powers given she saw she was given the possibility of two outcomes but having broken out of her awkwardness she saved a co-worker???? The bird could have been used for a soft emotional moment given it was a small animal and seeing it die just like the vision could upset her but instead they just Final Destination her co-worker, possibly giving her trauma but the bird is the one had to be saved?

    • @firefoxriouyh6541
      @firefoxriouyh6541 4 месяца назад +4

      Well, now you mentioned it. I guess in this movie, animals are important more than people. 😑

    • @kathyp1563
      @kathyp1563 4 месяца назад +2

      I like your version, because it builds the audience's investment in the story.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 месяца назад

      @@firefoxriouyh6541 The straight up wasted Mike Epps for that shit too. SHAME ON THE WHOLE HOUSE.

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 месяца назад

      @@kathyp1563 And it would have shown her taken action to save another person but I guess not???

  • @miguelduarte4334
    @miguelduarte4334 4 месяца назад +5

    You forget the best part: When Morbin apear and say "IT'S MORBIN TIME" !!!

  • @cameronscott7304
    @cameronscott7304 4 месяца назад +12

    I almost want to see this now because it sounds like Neil Breen wrote the script.

    • @DaNinja60
      @DaNinja60 4 месяца назад +1

      Now you're going to make me see one of his crap films for the embarrassing laughs they contain. Now his films are bad...MST3k kind of bad. 😂

  • @jace9763
    @jace9763 4 месяца назад +5

    Wow - just wow. Much appreciation for you taking the bullet on this one. Even if it is a bullet we saw coming from a mile away and were planning to avoid it. You still jumped in the way for the good of all - and salvage a bit of humor from it. Talk about making lemonade from - well - bullets? Time for me to stop the analogies, I'm clearly no good at it. Always love your content and the clip inserts to drive your points home are getting better and better. Great time as always!

  • @RumRunneerFilms
    @RumRunneerFilms 4 месяца назад +4

    Uwe Boll offended he wasn't called to direct this.

  • @briangoubeaux5360
    @briangoubeaux5360 4 месяца назад +6

    I guess I missed a lot while watching the movie. All I was thinking near the end is how those "Spider-Women" would be in their forties when Peter becomes Spider-Man which was weird in itself. Thanks for reminding me of all the other weird plot holes.

  • @jljl5449
    @jljl5449 4 месяца назад +6

    I almost feel bad for Dakota Johnson. She was convinced to take the role because she thought she was joining the MCU (when it was still good).

    • @felixmartinez1100
      @felixmartinez1100 4 месяца назад

      I don´t know what makes her think, at the time, that a movie made by Sony would make her think that she´ll be joining the MCU, who is own by Disney

  • @Hitman-316
    @Hitman-316 4 месяца назад +5

    But why does it seem to never have any consequences? Why do heads never roll? Why aren't theaters asking wtf is up? Like this never ends. How?

  • @allecazzam8224
    @allecazzam8224 4 месяца назад +69

    This movie has been in production since 2016 and they changed the script so many times and did so many reshoots. They should have just put two hrs of bouncing boobs on the screens.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 4 месяца назад +21

      A supercut of the girls on a trampoline scenes from The Man Show would be a better movie.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +17

      Hahaha, it would have been a better valentine movie that what we got

    • @DerrickMims
      @DerrickMims 4 месяца назад +6

      You don’t even get that. I think they must have bound Sydney’s chest like a transman. Or they CGI’d them away. 😮

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 4 месяца назад +9

      Ironically the porn parody of this movie will probably surpass its actual box office

    • @613harbinger316
      @613harbinger316 4 месяца назад

      Hmmm. Two hours of bouncing boobs reminds me of a scene in Idiocracy:
      "...and the Number One movie in the country was called "Ass". And that's all it was. For 90 minutes. It won eight Oscars that year. Including Best Screenplay."

  • @MarvinPowell1
    @MarvinPowell1 4 месяца назад +3

    Another thing is, the movie takes place in the early 2000s, which they give subtle hints to but never explicitly say, such as Cassi passing a Blockbuster Video store in the ambulance, almost no one having a cell phone, and Britney Spears' Toxic being a new song on the radio. It's supposed to be in the 2000s, cause Ben Parker's sister is implied to have given birth to Peter Parker in the third act.
    Also, this movie was Amy Pascal's passion project and was in production since 2014. Midnight's Edge did a really great video on it, but essentially this was the first "M-She-U" movie back when Captain America and the Winter Soldier was a thing in Marvel. That's why this movie is so bad; it's literally been in production hell for ten years.

  • @NorthernRealmJackal
    @NorthernRealmJackal 4 месяца назад +3

    What amazes me the most is how you can have the film rights to all of these weird colorful comic book characters, and still only come up with the plotting equivalent of an Ed Sheeran B-side single.. They could've done anything......
    They could've intercut an origin story for Spider-Gwen with one for Madame Web, and made them team up in the 3rd act.
    They could've made her paralysed and blind (i.e. comics accurate) and nihilistic about her disability, then made it a film about her finding her heroic purpose, when Miles Morales dumps into her universe with some cool villain following him.
    They could've made a movie about Madame Web losing her world's Spider-Woman, and then astral project herself through the spiderverse searching for the alternate-reality-Spider-Women who can help her defeat Venom or whatever.
    You know.... Something fun. With superheroes. And a multiverse. And a character arc.

  • @Krazedkarl
    @Krazedkarl 4 месяца назад +2

    The villain getting killed by Pepsi product placement is so shameless it's almost unbelievable

  • @DVX_BELLORVM
    @DVX_BELLORVM 4 месяца назад +1

    This is one of the greatest bait-and-switches in trailer history since Steven Seagal 'starred' in Executive Decision!

  • @leyenda6149
    @leyenda6149 4 месяца назад

    Greg, got an idea for a video. We were rewatching Tom Cruise's War of the Worlds & The Minority Report, and John Travolta's Phenomenon. We noticed not only are their main characters the protagonists, but in a weird way they were also the main characters for other other characters' world. It was unnaturally important to minor characters to ask the protagonist's opinions and assessments of scenarios. Plus, they use the protagonist's names like a million times. I only mention this cuz I saw the set-up again with Rey and secondary characters like Finn being so weirdly invested in her. There's more to unpack but I thought you might want to consider this. No worries if it's not a good fit for the channel.

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc663 4 месяца назад +1

    “She leaves them in the woods alone, and tells them she will be back in a few hours. She’s a paramedic by profession”
    😂😂😂

  • @eliotmccann2589
    @eliotmccann2589 4 месяца назад +1

    "The writing is so stilted it's hurricane-proof."
    Gold. Put that on the poster.

  • @nomex9829
    @nomex9829 4 месяца назад +1

    I pray the era of bad movies will never end; I can't live in a world without your videos.

  • @gen2917
    @gen2917 4 месяца назад +3

    Your review videos keep getting better and better👏🏼 Informative and enjoyable

  • @thelosingteam1098
    @thelosingteam1098 4 месяца назад +2

    You saved me about $18, so the least I can do is leave a like. Appreciate you also saving me about 2 hours I would never have gotten back

  • @NefariousKoel
    @NefariousKoel 4 месяца назад +10

    Is it me or is Dakota always in her "sexy bedroom voice" mode for all her promotional interviews?
    Makes me wonder whether it was ordered or whether it's just her default go-to.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +2

      Maybe that’s what she was going for. I thought she just sounded bored

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 4 месяца назад +3

      Thats just her. She can't act even in an interview

    • @christopherregan1654
      @christopherregan1654 4 месяца назад +1

      She really reminds me of Zoey Deschanel. Both of them have basically the same persona of being rather bland, unengaging, and boring.

  • @fren111
    @fren111 4 месяца назад +2

    The whole thing smells like an adopted script, this thing must have been collecting dust and someone crossed out the title and wrote "spider lady"

  • @ethanbaer65
    @ethanbaer65 4 месяца назад +2

    There is an old law in writing. An author cannot write a character smarter than they are. Otherwise they just... don't actually seem smart. Feel like that's the biggest problem with recent Disney stuff. All the smart writers joined the strike. 😅

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 4 месяца назад

      Theres a drove of modern writers that are pretty clearly horrible narcissists putting their own power fantasy on screen while also trying to normalize this shitass self-centered behavior.
      So, these self-serving amoral psychos, are given the task of writing a Super Hero movie about a selfless, brave heros that save people and risk everything... it isn't rocket science why this isn't working.
      I want a good story, told well. These movies are not telling stories, like this one its telling awful fanfiction written by misandrist assholes. Then this trash is further butchered and lit on fire in the editing bay, and they ask for money for this...product.

  • @providencebreaker1558
    @providencebreaker1558 4 месяца назад +3

    Someone somewhere thought a spiderman cinematic universe without spiderman was somehow a good idea.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +1

      It’s the Spiderman Adjacent Universe! The Spider-esque Universe.

  • @pictureel5863
    @pictureel5863 4 месяца назад +4

    Fantastic write up. Great presentation! They don’t get powers?! Whaaat??!! Not a superhero movie then, is it…ugh!

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад +3

      Exactly! I don’t how to categorize it, but “hero flick” isn’t it

  • @bubbakins18
    @bubbakins18 4 месяца назад +2

    Most of the Ezekiel stuff had me dying laughing. Just him randomly showing up in his evil Spider-Suit killing random people, every time he tries to do a cool slow walk it just looked dumb af, when he was walking upside down in the Diner his feet didn't even touch the celieng so it just looked like he was floating, and him getting ran over by Cassandra Web twice.

  • @choatican
    @choatican 4 месяца назад +2

    These writers are the Timothy McVeighs of Hollywood.

  • @DerrickMims
    @DerrickMims 4 месяца назад +1

    I did like when Dakota tried to climb the wall - that was a moment of genuine fun. And when she’s telling pregnant ERobs at the baby shower how her mother died in childbirth, that was a great black humor moment.

  • @user-dh7et7jz8l
    @user-dh7et7jz8l 4 месяца назад

    As soon as you said the bad guy is a French Actor playing a South American character for whom English is a second language, I thought "Kirk Lazarus from Tropic Thunder!". And then you played that exact clip!
    I must have spider powers that somehow let me see into the future so they're not spider powers at all!

  • @Erulin68
    @Erulin68 4 месяца назад +1

    Oh, I knew this would bomb harder than the Enola Gay when I found out Dakota Johnson fired her agent the very day the trailer come out.

  • @robertcarter4002
    @robertcarter4002 4 месяца назад +3

    If they wanted to go with a female spider-themed character there are so many ways they could have gone. For example, they could have just done a Julia Carpenter/Spider-Woman (or, better yet- call her Arachne- which is the name she eventually winds up using in comics). Super easy origin: Big company tests her and other college students for a so-called "athletic study" trying to duplicate Spider-Man's powers and winds up killing a bunch of kids, except for her. The company uses her as their lackey until she finds out what they did and rebels against them and reveals their crimes. Movie writes itself. Spider-Man is even (obliquely) connected in a realistic way (the company finds his blood on a crime scene or something to create their formula). Julia Carpenter's powers are pretty cool with psi-webs and such too... ah well.
    In short: Movie makers are dumb.

  • @thor3279
    @thor3279 4 месяца назад

    wow Greg, your description of this "movie" is hilarious!. You have quite the imagination, sir! there is no WAY a professional film studio would create something this ridiculous. Very funny video :)

  • @MikeTheD
    @MikeTheD 4 месяца назад +3

    For awhile, if you pinned me down I guess I'd say yeah, I dont KNOW if this or that modern movie will fail. But recently and certainly with Madame Web, yeah I freaking KNEW. It's almost science at this point, and what does that say about whomever green-lights this? It's gross negligence plain and simple. Why do they have that job and are able to keep it? We know the answer to that, but that's not my point of this and a different conversation.

  • @lumostsumos9049
    @lumostsumos9049 4 месяца назад

    I can’t wait for the sequel where we’ll hear more wisdom
    “With responsible greatness comes the great power’s responsible responsibility.”

  • @josephedmond3723
    @josephedmond3723 4 месяца назад +1

    Saying a spider is special because of the peptides it has is like saying a book is special because it has special words in it.

  • @s3.14dervision
    @s3.14dervision Месяц назад +2

    Dakota Johnson always seemed like she was on too many meds during interviews...of course I guess I would be too, after starring in this steaming pile.
    With terrible screenwriting comes terrible unemployment.

  • @davidhalley8587
    @davidhalley8587 4 месяца назад

    Your version of this movie with your edits were epic. 😂😂

  • @TheXpompier
    @TheXpompier 4 месяца назад +1

    Do CPR to fight a neurotoxin? WTF
    Even the comedy television show Tacoma FD wouldn't say that nonsense. 🤦‍♂️

  • @planetofthegapes
    @planetofthegapes 4 месяца назад +2

    Real talk: a lot of these bad superhero movies are coming out because the IP owner needs to keep releasing property-adjacent films in order to keep the rights. That's all it is.

    • @technounionrepresentative4274
      @technounionrepresentative4274 4 месяца назад

      Putting it on the same level as the terrible fantastic 4 movie from 1994

    • @sweetchristmas101
      @sweetchristmas101 4 месяца назад

      But there was a five-year gap between the Tobey movies and the Andrew movies, which suggests Sony doesn't have to release something Spidey-related too frequently. I think Sony spent a lot of money developing these projects (before they signed off on Spidey to appear in the MCU) and didn't want it to go to waste.

  • @MoostachedSaiyanPrince
    @MoostachedSaiyanPrince 4 месяца назад

    The funniest thing about the "with great responsibility comes great power" thing is that it's literally a paraphrase of a villain quote, to basically sum up his view on why he became a villain. There was a "good" Green Goblin in the comics who decided to turn villain and become an enforcer for the Kingpin. He did this by murdering the previous Hobgoblin and stealing all his sh*t, and he said some variation of this line, demonstrating that he's a villainous parallel to Spider-Man.

  • @spacemanchriss
    @spacemanchriss 4 месяца назад +1

    Bro the eye winking killed me 😆

  • @TaoScribble
    @TaoScribble 4 месяца назад +2

    I NEED to know the behind-the-scenes of this movie. Like, what happened?? How and WHY did it end up so BAD??

  • @stacychipouras8741
    @stacychipouras8741 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you. I laughed several times 💙

  • @jaywlkrr
    @jaywlkrr 4 месяца назад +2

    When you take on the responsibility, great power will come…. That’s literally the opposite of the original line!! That just sounds like another way to say “step into your power” and by no means denotes taking responsibility for things that you are capable of doing when you can do them. Such an awful use of the line

  • @Remember_Bubblebutt
    @Remember_Bubblebutt 4 месяца назад

    Hey Greg, good video as always. I didn't even know this movie existed until just now lol.
    I was wondering if you were going to cover Hazbin Hotel? I really liked the pilot back when it came out in 2018 but it seems the show missed the mark and everyone dislikes it. From the sound of it, I would also probably dislike it, even though I still like the pilot.

  • @insuchaway
    @insuchaway 4 месяца назад

    If Ben and Mary are siblings -
    Either she and Richard had the same last name
    Or
    He took Mary's last name after marriage.

  • @CaveFreediving
    @CaveFreediving 4 месяца назад

    I haven’t even heard of this show but it’s fun to see you make fun of it. Carry on my friend

  • @NewCanada
    @NewCanada 4 месяца назад

    Last I checked Peter's dad is Ben's younger brother. Peter's mom is NOT Ben's sister.

  • @Will_Parker
    @Will_Parker 4 месяца назад +1

    As someone who appreciates trash movies like Morbius and the Marvels as the unintentional comedies that they are, I'm definitely going to watch this. Just not any time soon.

  • @TheJimSkipper
    @TheJimSkipper 4 месяца назад +1

    I hope Madam Web doesn’t make budget just from hate-watching

  • @michaelnims5218
    @michaelnims5218 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for helping me avoid a land mine I wasn’t thinking of seeing anyways. 😂

  • @jaredbaxter7584
    @jaredbaxter7584 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m not going to watch this movie. I had bad expectations for it already but somehow it sounds worse than what I was expecting. And again, my expectations were in the basement low. Modern cinema is just amazing.

    • @thephoenixhasflown
      @thephoenixhasflown 4 месяца назад

      Yes, they have definitely ascended this time

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад

      Mine were similarly low. I’m genuinely surprised that the movie took it as a challenge and went lower

  • @adamkalb1
    @adamkalb1 3 месяца назад

    I always feel sad when movies turn out to be more boring than the trailer made them look. I feel even sadder when trailers for a bad movies are so bad, many viewers who respond to the trailers can already smell how bad Allegiant, The Emoji Movie, Madame Web and Megamind versus The Doom Syndicate are going to be! Seriously, I think Madame Web is the least exciting movie none of its actors wanted to promote since Allegiant. The book Allegiant was so bad, Lionsgate just gave up after Part 1 and never made Part 2. March 6, 2024, 3:49am

  • @DipankarGhosh007
    @DipankarGhosh007 3 месяца назад

    Thanks greg for suffering through these trash fires, so we don't have to😢

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 4 месяца назад +1

    I haven't even watched this movie yet and I want my money back

  • @MrNH718
    @MrNH718 4 месяца назад

    'CPR combats neurotoxins"
    😂😂😂

  • @willdegra317
    @willdegra317 4 месяца назад

    Y’all making me wanna watch this. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen something so horrible to reset what I use as the benchmark of horrible.

    • @MorbidMind123
      @MorbidMind123 4 месяца назад

      Its not fun bad, its boring bad, and that isn't entertaining in the slightest.

  • @whos-the-stiff
    @whos-the-stiff 4 месяца назад

    I always thought Uncle Ben was Richard Parker's brother not Mary Parker's. But I suppose Sony know better than me.

  • @XRavenHunt
    @XRavenHunt 4 месяца назад

    My favourite part of the movie was when Madame Web said "It's Madame Webbin' time!"

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 месяца назад +1

    This movie would've actually benefitted from Avi Arad stepping in and demanding more connections to Spiderman

  • @ACC-99
    @ACC-99 4 месяца назад +1

    But Greg you don't understand, the writers are totally going to redeem the plot device dream by having the villain survive for the next movie and that's when the girls are gonna get their girl boss powers that are spider themed cause reasons and the vision will finally come to fruition cause he just doesn't know when to quit. That will be their absolutely redeeming moment to win all the Oscars, movie of the year. And everybody will clap

  • @walterlucero5757
    @walterlucero5757 4 месяца назад

    I don't see why Spider-Man can't be a guest star in these Spider-Man less stories.

  • @simplegarak
    @simplegarak 4 месяца назад

    But Greg, how awesome was it when Dakota shouts "It's madam time!"

  • @broosewee
    @broosewee 4 месяца назад

    This was epic. Subbed!

  • @weedpuff
    @weedpuff 4 месяца назад +1

    Maybe they are going through all of the popular IPs they own looking for female characters to make scripts about because anything female lead right now is the brand.

  • @cpdreyer
    @cpdreyer 4 месяца назад

    They should have ended the movie with Sydney Sweeney saying "It's MadameWebbin' time!" with the same energy she delivers every line in everything she has ever been in (re: none) so at least the writers from Morbius fame who also did this nightmare would have shown some emotional honesty in giving the audience another huge middle finger.

  • @michaelschroeck2254
    @michaelschroeck2254 4 месяца назад +1

    This is why you , yes, hire fresh writers out of school, but to be our alongside well weathered writing veterans to show them the ropes and climb the ladder and many other clichés. Fresh out of school and fresh ideas do not equate to quality and success.

  • @michaelwilson8461
    @michaelwilson8461 Месяц назад

    I had to chuckle when he mentioned that it was session 0 and the journey was starting in a tavern. It reminded me that I wanted to go watch Gamers Dorkness rising and hands of fate again
    Two movies made with a FRACTION of the budget, that I would much rather go rewatch rather than seeing this hollywood crap anymore lol.

  • @JollyJoker369
    @JollyJoker369 4 месяца назад

    Well done, Greg.

  • @topherbec7578
    @topherbec7578 4 месяца назад

    It seems like movie makers are oblivious to how bad most films are these days. This has to be the lowest point in Hollywood's history.

  • @613harbinger316
    @613harbinger316 4 месяца назад

    Why do adventures always start in taverns? Why can't they begin in the middle of a catastrophe or while sitting next to each other watching a circus performance or a Philip Glass production?

  • @Jabberstax
    @Jabberstax 4 месяца назад

    Both Sony and Disney have fully embraced ESG/DEI initiatives over the last 5 years. That's how we end up with movies like Madame Web and the Marvels.

  • @shadowmahesh9876
    @shadowmahesh9876 4 месяца назад

    I know people use the argument of ‘how can you judge something when you haven’t watched it yet’. So far haven’t been wrong even after seeing the trailer but I do love seeing this argument being copy pasted everywhere.

  • @iancampbell2295
    @iancampbell2295 4 месяца назад

    If they'd just made another boring superhero film , at least that would have been something, what I can't understand is , what the hell did they spend all that money on ?

  • @lonestarrk9308
    @lonestarrk9308 4 месяца назад

    It’s been so long since I’ve given a shit about spoilers for a movie.

    • @gregowen2022
      @gregowen2022  4 месяца назад

      These days, the trailer usually sums up the whole thing anyway. Madame Web certainly did

  • @JmannTW
    @JmannTW 4 месяца назад

    They had Sydney Sweeney and they didn't put a costume on her (i don't count this "dream"). That's a crime.

  • @ryankoopacanada
    @ryankoopacanada 4 месяца назад

    Oh MAN! I was looking forward this and you DID NOT DISAPPOINT :D I feel like Hollywood nowadays suffers from
    1. too many cooks in the kitchen
    2. Rushed or just outright unnecessary info dumps…
    And 3. (This is a shocker) NO ORIGINAL IDEAS!!! :D (although I’m not gonna lie, the whole healing spider sounds neat) Seriously, how many times have they rehashed or retold Spider man’s origin story. Or batman or flash, hulk, you get the point…but this time there giving it to (gasp) A WOMAN ALL BECAUSE OF WOKE GENDER POLITICS!

  • @RoverIAC
    @RoverIAC 4 месяца назад

    Dakota Johnson didn't know what the film looked like not because it was shot on blue-screen but because the script obviously wasn't written till it after it was filmed.