Australian Liverpool supporter's in Australia. I'm not really a football enthusiast but it amazes me how many UK football clubs are supported all over the world ❤.
Liverpool were playing a friendly match with Melbourne in Australia and thousands of Liverpool fans travelled to watch the match. I'm a Liverpool fan and cry every time I hear "You'll Never Walk Alone".
Mark, I was at the game in the upper stand and I could see what was happening below me. We tried to pull people to safety from below. The number of fans has just gone up to 97 with one fan that was in a coma died from his injuries. I still have nightmares over what happened.
The Hillsborough tragedy changed the face of football in the UK. Standing was a tradition going back to the start of organized football. All stadiums in the top divisions eventually became all-seater in response to Hillsborough.
I'm a Nottingham girl and watched the match live on TV. We along with the commentators could only watch and were powerless to do anything. My friend was at the match in the Disabled area for Notts fans. He was left by his careers who rushed to help do first aid, my friend had to sit in his wheelchair and watch it unfold. It changed many of us for ever. Thank you for having the courage to watch and react. Standing areas were banned, fences came down and after many years of long court cases the Police finally admitted they made mistakes.
As a Notts girl I agree. We listened on the radio because my Forest mad Dad,brother and their good friend were at the match. They were devastated when they got home, shocked. Their friend didn't attend another football match for about 20 years after. It's why I hate the tabloids, we knew they were lying. My folks couldn't believe only ambulance was allowed onto the pitch.. We thought ,for the grace of God! So horrific !
@@cjscitcat thank you, it's good to know others haven't forgot. I think as Notts fans I felt guilt it wasn't us and our fans came home. Survivors guilt.
Hi Mark , I remember watching this tradegy unfold on the telly , my dad soon ushered me out of the room when he realised what was happening . This song runs deep for the Liverpool folk it means so much to them .
Some of these stadium tragedies were horrific. The other one that comes to mind was at Bradford city football club. The stadium caught fire resulting in 56 people loosing their lives.
FA cup semi finals are played at neutral stadiums (to avoid home field advantage), formerly at Sheffield and villa park in Birmingham. Since the new Wembley stadium was opened, both semi finals have been held at Wembley.
Hi Mark. The Hillsborough was shocking and tragic but lessons were learnt and most stadiums in the top two decisions in England became all-seater afterwards. Regarding You'll Never Walk Alone, it was released by Liverpool band Gerry and the Pacemakers just as Liverpool F.C. were on the rise in the early sixties. They were friends of The Beatles, played at the Cavern and Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager also managed them. Another artist with a Beatles/ Epstein/Cavern Club connection was Cilla Black - it would be worth checking her out. Regards, Gary
For info, Mark, the 10 year old boy who died was Stevie Gerrard's cousin. Stevie Gerrard was captain of Liverpool for a number of years, and was captain at the time of the Australia match - he's the player the camera tends to focus on. Liverpool fans will be able to say more about this.
Morning Mark. Another lovely reaction! Where were they? This match was in Australia. It says a lot about how many Liverpool fans made it to the other side of the world to see their team play. Take care. If you want to see what the words of this song are go to The Last Night of the Proms 2011: You'll Never Walk Alone. It's sung by Susan Bullock. It's printed on the screen.
They were in Melbourne Australia for a friendly game and there were 95,000 fans, the largest group ever.. The song takes a different meaning when you see the story.. I've always loved the song when Gerry and the Pacemakers had it out.. 🐦
This was so sad i have a friend who is from Liverpool, her and her family are Liverpool fans, Her friend's son was one of the people who died they have never forgiven the police and authorities for what happened. The other tragedy that happened in football during the 80s was the Bradford fire. I was a young teenager watching on TV as a fire started at Bradford football ground. You saw people running for their lives, one image I remember is a person trying to put out his hair which was on fire with his bare hands. I believe over 50 people died. Even after all these years it still stays in my memory.
The game was a friendly game played between Liverpool and Melbourne Victory at Australia's world famous Melbourne Cricket Ground that holds the AFL grand final every year in front of 100,000 people, there were about 96,000 there that day in 2013.
97 now - '30 years', '30 years' to get justice for these people and their families and friends! A VERY VERY DARK 30 years for England, disgusting, we should be ashamed!
Standing on terraces was an old old tradition loved by the fans. In the 70s and 80s there was a problem with hooliganism so someone came up with the idea of fencing terraces into small units to stop fans reaching each other and fighting. No one considered what the consequences might be. Following Hillsborough all fences were removed and all-seating enforced on stadiums. In the last few years, with hooliganism largely disappeared, standing terraces have been allowed again
Remember sitting at home to watch it on television my family and I new something was wrong it was a very bad day for football. Love watching your video and you carrying on doing good work. From London UK ❤
@lindahennah2903 the version sung at the matches came out in 1963 but the original version from the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical was in 1945 and first sung by Frank Sinatra
Mark, Dan from Yorks here. The background to Hillsborough. For many years football grounds had been plagued by hooliganism, with rival gangs of fans invading pitches & running fights ensueing. To stop this the Government required grounds to erect fences around the pitches. So this was done, so that the fans were trapped on the terraces & crushed against the fence. Football grounds traditionally had standing terraces, not seating, so many people could be crowded together. Since Hillsborough the fencing rules have relaxed & now stadiums have to be all seated, though a few are asking for limited areas of standing to be re-introduced.
The game was the semi final of the FA Cup which is always played at a neutral ground. This game was played in Sheffield, Yorkshire between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest. The singing was at a pre-season game played in Melbourne, Australia. In the summer of this year Liverpool will be playing 3 pre-season game in America. This I think will be shown on ESPN. The games will be between Manchester United and Arsenal. Plus a European team.
I was only five at the time but the clips of people being lifted into the stands above has haunted me ever since. That and the fall of the Berlin Wall a few months later are two things that will never leave me despite my youth at the time! I can remember at the time people basically blaming football hooliganism and treating it like "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" which is a completely abhorrent attitude. There are a small minority of obsessive football louts at any major match, but even if they were at Hillsborough (and I'm not saying they were involved in this), that is NO REASON to treat anyone as if they caused their own deaths. ALL people- including idiots- who attend any event where there might be a large crowd have a right to expect basic standards of safety and security provided by the venue and THAT was what was at fault, categorically and unquestionably. If any hooligans then cause problems inside the stadium, that is a completely separate issue and shouldn't detract from the fact that Hillsborough was caused by the design of the stadium and decisions made on the day (eg not to postpone the start time of the match).
on this day in 1989, i was at Leicester Vs Chelsea in the 2nd division ( im a Tottenham fan by the way ) The Fences was to stop the Hooligans, the Fences started to come down the day after
Mark, that day Hillsborough stadium was being used as what we call "A neutral venue". This is why you are confused. This term means neither team playing in the match itself is at it's home stadium. So both teams that are to play at a neutral venue have to travel away from their respective home cities. So in this case both the Liverpool and Nottingham Forest teams of players had to travel to Sheffield where the match was to be played. I hope this explanation of neutral venues makes it clearer to you.
I live in Sheffield where the Hillsborough disaster happened, an absolute tragedy...Hillsborough is the home of Sheffield Wednesday. I worked thete on matchdays.
Makes me feel sick, and it makes me cringe in equal measure, anytime I watch or hear about Hillsborough. It was only recently that they got "justice" for what happened if you can call it that. Not only was it a tragedy, but it was something that went on for many years and consumed many peoples lives, especially the families of those killed. The awful thing is it could potentially happen again it just takes a lack of communication & planning or one person to mess up. Unlikely but not impossible
Hillsboro was an utter disgrace. The whole debarcle was handled utterly appallingly by the Police. One man went to the match with his 2 daughters....and lost them both.
'debacle'. It's simply not recognised that whatever the failings of the police, the fault also lay with the football followers themselves, surging around like a manic mindless uncontrollable force. They indeed were also culprits in this event.
Mark, they were awful scenes shown live on our screens as this disaster was unfolding. A huge inquiry was carried out afterwards. There is another football disaster were there was a fire in the stands at Bradford City's ground..it is on youtube.
I was on leppings lane that day and to this day it comes into my thoughts almost everyday.1 of the things that really sticks in my head is phoning home (i was 19 at the time) to basically tell my family i am alive and safe,i do know my cousin rang the helpline just to see if there was any info.we deove home in the car in silence and alls you could see at motorway services was queues outside the phone boxes. YNWA.😢
I watched it on tv. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Then the tabloid press blamed the Liverpool fans. Anyone who watched it knew full well it was NOT the fans doing, it was police mismanagement!
Hillsborough is where my team play, sheffield wednesday. But ive always had a love for Liverpool football and now i will always be connected, not in a good way.
As others have said not the whole story the aftermath was disgusting with the police and the sun newspaper blaming Liverpool fans for not having tickets and drinking the one injured fan was still alive well after it happened because they wouldn't let the ambulances on the pitch for ages he passed away and they lied and said he was already died
The Video seems to imply only 1 ambulance to begin with. I may be wrong and sadly dad is no longer with us,sure he said he only saw 1 ambulance at all throughout. He said it was shocking how long it took for any official help to arrive. My Forest mad Dad, my brother and friend were there. They came home in a terrible state,my 23yr old bro went straight to bed around 7.30pm.Think it was the shock. The pal stopped attending football matches. The cover up was a f disgrace and the tabloids ( the sun, in particular) will.never be trusted again for truthful information. The people of shefield living around the stadium were stars, such a kind response ,opening their doors and letting supporters of both teams use their telephones to reassure family back home.
Hillsboro's ground belongs to Sheffield Wednesday, this match was held there because it had to be held at a neutral club. Liverpool fans got all of the blame! The Police lied, the security services lied, and worse of all, The Sun Newspaper made horrific statements about the Liverpool fans. The Sun is banned in Liverpool. It took years for the truth and apologies to be made. However, mud sticks. The deaths are now 97. No one stands anymore, also there are few barriers. The big banner was of a past manager Bob Paisley, and a close up of the Captain of Liverpool in the past, Steven Gerrard (a Scouser). Jurgen Klopp has now left Liverpool. On 1st June the new Head Coach Arne Slot starts the job.
What they don’t tell you is that at first, when people started to climb over the fence at the front to escape the crush, the police were making them get down.
@@MarkfromtheStates old wooden stand, started by a cigarette, which they thought they had put out under their foot. We had similar with kings Cross Station that was also 1980's from memory again wood somewhere escalators, rebuilt afterwards and changed other stations
This doesnt explain alot of of what happened.. at 1st the police didnt help and was telling people climbing over the fence to get back in.. they also delayed the ambulance's coming into the pitch for just short of an hour.. many people could have been saved but the police delayed it! Its now 97 people that passed. YNWA ❤
I have strong feelings about the Hillsborough tragedy. To my mind it was the result of very nasty politics. There was tremendous feeling of freedom in the UK in the 1960s and 1970s. Working-class people started to be able to take full part in society. To the establishment this would never do. How dare the ordinary people be free? So in 1979 it was made sure that a right-wing Conservative government got elected, led by a woman I detest, Margaret Thatcher. ( I believe she got in by a subtle playing of the race card. ) That government decimated British industry, and severely weakened the Union movement by - in organised fashion - smashing the Miners' strike. Then a war was allowed to happen; cuts in our defence encouraged Argentina to invade the Falklands; we then had to fight back, and Thatcher got the credit, so she kept in power. Now I have to admit there was a problem with football hooliganism. But the Conservatives made political capital out of this, and all football supporters - mainly working-class - were treated like dirt. ( I attended a few football matches at the time, and I remember the attitude of the police. I remember being in a nasty crush in Wolverhampton, the situation only being saved by quick-thinking fans, who pushed back on the crowds to prevent mass falling over the internal barriers.) So, fatally, barriers were put between the fans and the pitch. At Hillsborough - which was the ground of neither Liverpool nor Nottingham Forest, but of the neutral Sheffield Wednesday - the police officer in charge, David Dukenfield, was both inexperienced and arrogant. He didn't even bother to visit the ground before the match. The property man for Sheffield Wednesday was also arrogant and appalling. So very bad decisions were made. After the disaster, the Conservatives were quick to blame the fans for being drunk, and notably this was said by the Government-supporting tabloid The Sun - as a result still hated in Liverpool. It is actually rare for crushes to be caused by crowd misbehaviour. In the subsequent enquiries, immense pressure was put on ordinary police officers to change their stories to avoid blame on the authorities. It was thirty years before the truth came out. And the song is American! It is one of the great Rodgers and Hammerstein numbers, from Carousel. It was popularised in England by a cover version by Gerry and the Pacemakers.
Hi Mark. This is part of the story but not the whole story with the aftermath and enquiries running for decades. Maybe you can check out a more thorough documentary regarding Hillsborough. This one gives a better overview - ruclips.net/video/UMVwG2pqxeA/видео.html&ab_channel=TheGuardian Standing pre Hillsborough disaster in football stadium. So to where high fences in the 80's to stop fans getting on the pitch and fighting each other.
Australian Liverpool supporter's in Australia.
I'm not really a football enthusiast but it amazes me how many UK football clubs are supported all over the world ❤.
Liverpool were playing a friendly match with Melbourne in Australia and thousands of Liverpool fans travelled to watch the match. I'm a Liverpool fan and cry every time I hear "You'll Never Walk Alone".
Mark, I was at the game in the upper stand and I could see what was happening below me. We tried to pull people to safety from below. The number of fans has just gone up to 97 with one fan that was in a coma died from his injuries.
I still have nightmares over what happened.
Oh gosh Tony...horrible. Be well my friend
The Hillsborough tragedy changed the face of football in the UK. Standing was a tradition going back to the start of organized football. All stadiums in the top divisions eventually became all-seater in response to Hillsborough.
Thank you Chris
I'm a Nottingham girl and watched the match live on TV. We along with the commentators could only watch and were powerless to do anything. My friend was at the match in the Disabled area for Notts fans. He was left by his careers who rushed to help do first aid, my friend had to sit in his wheelchair and watch it unfold. It changed many of us for ever. Thank you for having the courage to watch and react. Standing areas were banned, fences came down and after many years of long court cases the Police finally admitted they made mistakes.
As a Notts girl I agree.
We listened on the radio because my Forest mad Dad,brother and their good friend were at the match.
They were devastated when they got home, shocked. Their friend didn't attend another football match for about 20 years after.
It's why I hate the tabloids, we knew they were lying.
My folks couldn't believe only ambulance was allowed onto the pitch..
We thought ,for the grace of God!
So horrific !
@@cjscitcat thank you, it's good to know others haven't forgot. I think as Notts fans I felt guilt it wasn't us and our fans came home. Survivors guilt.
Hi Mark , I remember watching this tradegy unfold on the telly , my dad soon ushered me out of the room when he realised what was happening . This song runs deep for the Liverpool folk it means so much to them .
Some of these stadium tragedies were horrific. The other one that comes to mind was at Bradford city football club. The stadium caught fire resulting in 56 people loosing their lives.
FA cup semi finals are played at neutral stadiums (to avoid home field advantage), formerly at Sheffield and villa park in Birmingham. Since the new Wembley stadium was opened, both semi finals have been held at Wembley.
Hi Mark. The Hillsborough was shocking and tragic but lessons were learnt and most stadiums in the top two decisions in England became all-seater afterwards. Regarding You'll Never Walk Alone, it was released by Liverpool band Gerry and the Pacemakers just as Liverpool F.C. were on the rise in the early sixties. They were friends of The Beatles, played at the Cavern and Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager also managed them. Another artist with a Beatles/ Epstein/Cavern Club connection was Cilla Black - it would be worth checking her out.
Regards, Gary
It is still so RAW that I cant express what I feel because even now.... well
For info, Mark, the 10 year old boy who died was Stevie Gerrard's cousin. Stevie Gerrard was captain of Liverpool for a number of years, and was captain at the time of the Australia match - he's the player the camera tends to focus on. Liverpool fans will be able to say more about this.
Oh wow gosh terrible
Morning Mark. Another lovely reaction! Where were they? This match was in Australia. It says a lot about how many Liverpool fans made it to the other side of the world to see their team play. Take care.
If you want to see what the words of this song are go to The Last Night of the Proms 2011: You'll Never Walk Alone. It's sung by Susan Bullock. It's printed on the screen.
Thank you JJ
They were in Melbourne Australia for a friendly game and there were 95,000 fans, the largest group ever.. The song takes a different meaning when you see the story.. I've always loved the song when Gerry and the Pacemakers had it out.. 🐦
This was so sad i have a friend who is from Liverpool, her and her family are Liverpool fans, Her friend's son was one of the people who died they have never forgiven the police and authorities for what happened. The other tragedy that happened in football during the 80s was the Bradford fire. I was a young teenager watching on TV as a fire started at Bradford football ground. You saw people running for their lives, one image I remember is a person trying to put out his hair which was on fire with his bare hands. I believe over 50 people died. Even after all these years it still stays in my memory.
So sad
I'll never forget this day, trying to get home from work and not realising what was happening until I got home. You'll never walk alone x
The game was a friendly game played between Liverpool and Melbourne Victory at Australia's world famous Melbourne Cricket Ground that holds the AFL grand final every year in front of 100,000 people, there were about 96,000 there that day in 2013.
97 now - '30 years', '30 years' to get justice for these people and their families and friends! A VERY VERY DARK 30 years for England, disgusting, we should be ashamed!
Standing on terraces was an old old tradition loved by the fans. In the 70s and 80s there was a problem with hooliganism so someone came up with the idea of fencing terraces into small units to stop fans reaching each other and fighting. No one considered what the consequences might be. Following Hillsborough all fences were removed and all-seating enforced on stadiums. In the last few years, with hooliganism largely disappeared, standing terraces have been allowed again
Remember sitting at home to watch it on television my family and I new something was wrong it was a very bad day for football. Love watching your video and you carrying on doing good work. From London UK ❤
Yes sad...thanks Linda
I watched it unfold on tv,i was crying my eyes out
Dang! Terrible
My 2 boys and family are Liverpool fans and we live in London.
And the song first came out in 1963 .
@lindahennah2903 the version sung at the matches came out in 1963 but the original version from the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical was in 1945 and first sung by Frank Sinatra
Mark, Dan from Yorks here. The background to Hillsborough. For many years football grounds had been plagued by hooliganism, with rival gangs of fans invading pitches & running fights ensueing. To stop this the Government required grounds to erect fences around the pitches. So this was done, so that the fans were trapped on the terraces & crushed against the fence. Football grounds traditionally had standing terraces, not seating,
so many people could be crowded together. Since Hillsborough the fencing rules have relaxed & now stadiums have to be all seated, though a few are asking for limited areas of standing to be re-introduced.
The game was the semi final of the FA Cup which is always played at a neutral ground. This game was played in Sheffield, Yorkshire between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.
The singing was at a pre-season game played in Melbourne, Australia.
In the summer of this year Liverpool will be playing 3 pre-season game in America. This I think will be shown on ESPN. The games will be between Manchester United and Arsenal. Plus a European team.
Very cool
In the 60s the Liverpool band Gerry and the pacemakers released 'You'll never walk alone', as a single and the rest is history.
I was only five at the time but the clips of people being lifted into the stands above has haunted me ever since. That and the fall of the Berlin Wall a few months later are two things that will never leave me despite my youth at the time!
I can remember at the time people basically blaming football hooliganism and treating it like "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" which is a completely abhorrent attitude. There are a small minority of obsessive football louts at any major match, but even if they were at Hillsborough (and I'm not saying they were involved in this), that is NO REASON to treat anyone as if they caused their own deaths. ALL people- including idiots- who attend any event where there might be a large crowd have a right to expect basic standards of safety and security provided by the venue and THAT was what was at fault, categorically and unquestionably. If any hooligans then cause problems inside the stadium, that is a completely separate issue and shouldn't detract from the fact that Hillsborough was caused by the design of the stadium and decisions made on the day (eg not to postpone the start time of the match).
On the back of every Liverpool shirt, just below the collar is the number 97 (used to be 96) flanked by the flaming torches from the club badge.
on this day in 1989, i was at Leicester Vs Chelsea in the 2nd division ( im a Tottenham fan by the way ) The Fences was to stop the Hooligans, the Fences started to come down the day after
Mark, that day Hillsborough stadium was being used as what we call "A neutral venue". This is why you are confused.
This term means neither team playing in the match itself is at it's home stadium.
So both teams that are to play at a neutral venue have to travel away from their respective home cities. So in this case both the Liverpool and Nottingham Forest teams of players had to travel to Sheffield where the match was to be played.
I hope this explanation of neutral venues makes it clearer to you.
R[P TO THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES .
Yes
This happened on my 17th birthday and still something I think about every year, I just turned 52 and it still seems like yesterday 😢
I live in Sheffield where the Hillsborough disaster happened, an absolute tragedy...Hillsborough is the home of Sheffield Wednesday. I worked thete on matchdays.
Okay thanks
Nottingham forest football club are based at City Ground Stadium, in Nottingham. Not in Sheffield .
Makes me feel sick, and it makes me cringe in equal measure, anytime I watch or hear about Hillsborough. It was only recently that they got "justice" for what happened if you can call it that. Not only was it a tragedy, but it was something that went on for many years and consumed many peoples lives, especially the families of those killed. The awful thing is it could potentially happen again it just takes a lack of communication & planning or one person to mess up. Unlikely but not impossible
Hillsboro was an utter disgrace. The whole debarcle was handled utterly appallingly by the Police. One man went to the match with his 2 daughters....and lost them both.
'debacle'. It's simply not recognised that whatever the failings of the police, the fault also lay with the football followers themselves, surging around like a manic mindless uncontrollable force. They indeed were also culprits in this event.
Ooo gosh. Pardon my spelling. Debacle. I stand corrected....one feels the need to correct someones spelling ....good for youl 😂😂😂
Mark, they were awful scenes shown live on our screens as this disaster was unfolding. A huge inquiry was carried out afterwards. There is another football disaster were there was a fire in the stands at Bradford City's ground..it is on youtube.
I was on leppings lane that day and to this day it comes into my thoughts almost everyday.1 of the things that really sticks in my head is phoning home (i was 19 at the time) to basically tell my family i am alive and safe,i do know my cousin rang the helpline just to see if there was any info.we deove home in the car in silence and alls you could see at motorway services was queues outside the phone boxes. YNWA.😢
I watched it on tv. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Then the tabloid press blamed the Liverpool fans. Anyone who watched it knew full well it was NOT the fans doing, it was police mismanagement!
Hillsborough is where my team play, sheffield wednesday. But ive always had a love for Liverpool football and now i will always be connected, not in a good way.
As others have said not the whole story the aftermath was disgusting with the police and the sun newspaper blaming Liverpool fans for not having tickets and drinking the one injured fan was still alive well after it happened because they wouldn't let the ambulances on the pitch for ages he passed away and they lied and said he was already died
Wow sad
The Video seems to imply only 1 ambulance to begin with.
I may be wrong and sadly dad is no longer with us,sure he said he only saw 1 ambulance at all throughout. He said it was shocking how long it took for any official help to arrive.
My Forest mad Dad, my brother and friend were there.
They came home in a terrible state,my 23yr old bro went straight to bed around 7.30pm.Think it was the shock. The pal stopped attending football matches.
The cover up was a f disgrace and the tabloids ( the sun, in particular) will.never be trusted again for truthful information.
The people of shefield living around the stadium were stars, such a kind response ,opening their doors and letting supporters of both teams use their telephones to reassure family back home.
Yes I remember hearing there was only one because they wouldn't let the others through
Hillsboro's ground belongs to Sheffield Wednesday, this match was held there because it had to be held at a neutral club. Liverpool fans got all of the blame! The Police lied, the security services lied, and worse of all, The Sun Newspaper made horrific statements about the Liverpool fans. The Sun is banned in Liverpool. It took years for the truth and apologies to be made. However, mud sticks. The deaths are now 97. No one stands anymore, also there are few barriers. The big banner was of a past manager Bob Paisley, and a close up of the Captain of Liverpool in the past, Steven Gerrard (a Scouser).
Jurgen Klopp has now left Liverpool.
On 1st June the new Head Coach Arne Slot starts the job.
What they don’t tell you is that at first, when people started to climb over the fence at the front to escape the crush, the police were making them get down.
I do not know where the stadium is but they were in Australia.
Melbourne I think
Fencing to stop fans invading the pitch. Dont have it these days.
One which isn't talked about much was Bradford going up in flames about four years before this one
I think I heard about that...the fire?
@@MarkfromtheStates old wooden stand, started by a cigarette, which they thought they had put out under their foot. We had similar with kings Cross Station that was also 1980's from memory again wood somewhere escalators, rebuilt afterwards and changed other stations
People have stood at football matches since football was invevted, they were the cheapest tickets
wild but I'm sure it was like that here as well in some places
This doesnt explain alot of of what happened.. at 1st the police didnt help and was telling people climbing over the fence to get back in.. they also delayed the ambulance's coming into the pitch for just short of an hour.. many people could have been saved but the police delayed it!
Its now 97 people that passed.
YNWA ❤
The behaviour of the police after the event was appalling.
Time wise, in the UK, we're 8 hours ahead of you - Lyn
Got me again ya bastard 🤣
LOL sorry not sorry
Don’t buy the sun
It was 100% caused by police failures and wilful incompetence
I have strong feelings about the Hillsborough tragedy. To my mind it was the result of very nasty politics.
There was tremendous feeling of freedom in the UK in the 1960s and 1970s. Working-class people started to be able to take full part in society.
To the establishment this would never do. How dare the ordinary people be free? So in 1979 it was made sure that a right-wing Conservative government got elected, led by a woman I detest, Margaret Thatcher. ( I believe she got in by a subtle playing of the race card. ) That government decimated British industry, and severely weakened the Union movement by - in organised fashion - smashing the Miners' strike. Then a war was allowed to happen; cuts in our defence encouraged Argentina to invade the Falklands; we then had to fight back, and Thatcher got the credit, so she kept in power.
Now I have to admit there was a problem with football hooliganism. But the Conservatives made political capital out of this, and all football supporters - mainly working-class - were treated like dirt. ( I attended a few football matches at the time, and I remember the attitude of the police. I remember being in a nasty crush in Wolverhampton, the situation only being saved by quick-thinking fans, who pushed back on the crowds to prevent mass falling over the internal barriers.)
So, fatally, barriers were put between the fans and the pitch. At Hillsborough - which was the ground of neither Liverpool nor Nottingham Forest, but of the neutral Sheffield Wednesday - the police officer in charge, David Dukenfield, was both inexperienced and arrogant. He didn't even bother to visit the ground before the match. The property man for Sheffield Wednesday was also arrogant and appalling.
So very bad decisions were made. After the disaster, the Conservatives were quick to blame the fans for being drunk, and notably this was said by the Government-supporting tabloid The Sun - as a result still hated in Liverpool. It is actually rare for crushes to be caused by crowd misbehaviour.
In the subsequent enquiries, immense pressure was put on ordinary police officers to change their stories to avoid blame on the authorities. It was thirty years before the truth came out.
And the song is American! It is one of the great Rodgers and Hammerstein numbers, from Carousel. It was popularised in England by a cover version by Gerry and the Pacemakers.
Segregation fencing was put in years ago after a spate of awful fan riots and hooliganism in the 1980s across the game and many inner city teams
AS
As I write this it is 5.40pm o may27th
Hi Mark. This is part of the story but not the whole story with the aftermath and enquiries running for decades. Maybe you can check out a more thorough documentary regarding Hillsborough. This one gives a better overview - ruclips.net/video/UMVwG2pqxeA/видео.html&ab_channel=TheGuardian
Standing pre Hillsborough disaster in football stadium. So to where high fences in the 80's to stop fans getting on the pitch and fighting each other.
I will thank you
It's all Duckenfield's fault.
think he said Australia,sounds better isund n a stadium
So good