What is the scoring criteria for this? I am seeing a lot of slashes with swords that do nothing to plate and is essentially just a waste of time compared to stabbing at the gaps and grappling. Even if we consider the effect on the fighters themselves like in MMA, nothing is happening essentially so cutting is a total waste of time. The axe fights were fine though.
@@vordermark89 I see, we thrust all the time in HEMA so I was surprised. Nice axe work though but I see the one guy was going too far as I am told it was a demo. A shame. And yeah, I know you guys won’t be cutting with sharp edges. I was just pointing out that cuts even if they are edged won’t cut plate so I was wondering if those scored.
@@Subutai_Khan so the premise of our sport rules are based off of 14th century tournament rules. They did not thrust either unless the head of the tournament set that as a rule. Their tournaments were meant as a morale building exersize and practice for war. A lot of times they used clubs or whale jawbones instead of actual weapons. Hema is a martial art, this is just a medieval based sport.
Alot of people bashing logan for going 100%. All ill say is you train like you play and you play like you train. Then again it seems like these guys are more on the casual side. (See comment below for explanation)
These were supposed to be fun demos that we were under contract to fill. So we don't go hard because if people get hurt we have to work twice as hard to put on a good show. Plus there were girls and complete noobs. Absolutely no reason to go that hard
Yessir. He also gapped 2 of his teammates when we do not allow gap shots. He hit them in very obvious gaps. One of them was put out of work for 2 weeks because he broke his hip
@@zachrabun7161 he doesn't do so well around people his size or the more experienced fighters. Plus he had a problem where at demos like this when the rest of us are going 40 to 60 percent he was going 100 Because he didn't know how to chill out and put on a show. 100% is for tournament. Demos are for practice and showing off
@@vordermark89 fair point, it is certainly fun to watch regardless. Will definitely be digging more into the channel. I've heard of HEMA, but this is on a whole other level! I had no idea people were doing stuff like this, especially in America. I imagine the cost of the gear can be a bit of a barrier to entry. How much would you say it costs for someone to get kitted out, roughly?
@@zachrabun7161 it's still crazy to me that people don't know about the sport 😂 it's been in. The US for the better part of 10 to 12 years. There's easily a team in every state, if not more. Unfortunately it's even harder to get gear right now with the war in Ukraine and whatnot. Most of the mass production armorer's are from that area. But an average suit these days is gonna be 7 grand at the cheapest all the way up to 12k
Yes and no. Those were made quickly to imitate lobster tail neck protection. There are a few historical sources, but the way I made these ones probably isn't historically accurate. We just needed fast quick neck protection
@@DanielCastillo-rg4oi Search around for local Buhurt groups. If the ren fair comes close to you I recommend going to that, there's likely at least someone who can introduce you
Simon would kill him. Logan is only 240lbs 6ft. Everyone he's fighting is much smaller and new. He gets leveled by the experienced opponents. That's all
@@vordermark89 damn, tbh i did not take experience into consideration. Im trying to get into armored combat but rn i dont have the time nor the physique, but im trying to train a bit and im looking into making parts of armor
@@vordermark89 ohio, "The Shire of Rivenvale" is my closest SCA member group, but i need to get in good shape lol, i dont want to get some armor only to be thinner than initial dimensions or guess and get stuff that is too small, and i know about pad armor for training and all that
Would love to be apart what a amazing soon to be sport
Hey guys! Have an instagram?
I wanted to ask you if I could have permission to montage some of your fights into a highlight reel?
Thanks!
What is the scoring criteria for this? I am seeing a lot of slashes with swords that do nothing to plate and is essentially just a waste of time compared to stabbing at the gaps and grappling. Even if we consider the effect on the fighters themselves like in MMA, nothing is happening essentially so cutting is a total waste of time.
The axe fights were fine though.
Thrusting is illegal in the sport. It's already dangerous. Plus the weapons are blunted.
@@vordermark89 I see, we thrust all the time in HEMA so I was surprised. Nice axe work though but I see the one guy was going too far as I am told it was a demo. A shame.
And yeah, I know you guys won’t be cutting with sharp edges. I was just pointing out that cuts even if they are edged won’t cut plate so I was wondering if those scored.
@@Subutai_Khan so the premise of our sport rules are based off of 14th century tournament rules. They did not thrust either unless the head of the tournament set that as a rule. Their tournaments were meant as a morale building exersize and practice for war. A lot of times they used clubs or whale jawbones instead of actual weapons.
Hema is a martial art, this is just a medieval based sport.
@@vordermark89 I see, thanks! I was just curious how this worked. Not intending to judge. It looks like good fun in its own right.
@@Subutai_Khan no of course!!! I've fought with plenty of hema, SCA, LARPers, boffer guys. Each has its merit and benefits from a training standpoint.
Alot of people bashing logan for going 100%. All ill say is you train like you play and you play like you train. Then again it seems like these guys are more on the casual side.
(See comment below for explanation)
These were supposed to be fun demos that we were under contract to fill. So we don't go hard because if people get hurt we have to work twice as hard to put on a good show. Plus there were girls and complete noobs. Absolutely no reason to go that hard
@@vordermark89 I see. So it was more of a entertainment ordeal. Thanks for clarifying that.
Yessir. He also gapped 2 of his teammates when we do not allow gap shots. He hit them in very obvious gaps. One of them was put out of work for 2 weeks because he broke his hip
@@vordermark89 Damn, I'm glad he got better. Was anything done about him??
@@TexanTemplar he got booted from the team
Man, that Logan is a beast!
He's decent. But he's pretty average compared to most serious fighters.
He definitely knows how to use his size advantage, that extra height and weight makes tossing folks around a lot easier.
@@zachrabun7161 he doesn't do so well around people his size or the more experienced fighters. Plus he had a problem where at demos like this when the rest of us are going 40 to 60 percent he was going 100 Because he didn't know how to chill out and put on a show. 100% is for tournament. Demos are for practice and showing off
@@vordermark89 fair point, it is certainly fun to watch regardless. Will definitely be digging more into the channel. I've heard of HEMA, but this is on a whole other level! I had no idea people were doing stuff like this, especially in America.
I imagine the cost of the gear can be a bit of a barrier to entry. How much would you say it costs for someone to get kitted out, roughly?
@@zachrabun7161 it's still crazy to me that people don't know about the sport 😂 it's been in. The US for the better part of 10 to 12 years. There's easily a team in every state, if not more.
Unfortunately it's even harder to get gear right now with the war in Ukraine and whatnot. Most of the mass production armorer's are from that area. But an average suit these days is gonna be 7 grand at the cheapest all the way up to 12k
Are those plate tails on the back of the helmet, a historical piece of armour or something that was introduced recently?
Yes and no. Those were made quickly to imitate lobster tail neck protection. There are a few historical sources, but the way I made these ones probably isn't historically accurate. We just needed fast quick neck protection
@@vordermark89 Ah, very resourceful.
Fighting against Logan must be demotivating, that's both a compliment and a correction lol
It's only hard if you're new and half his size. Which is 75% of the people in this video.
What the hell just started the fight? It looks like Aragorn took a crap and rolled it in Bud Light.
I'm guessing English isn't your first language
how does one join for this? it looks sooooo much fun 😊
Depends on where you live!
California
@@DanielCastillo-rg4oi Search around for local Buhurt groups. If the ren fair comes close to you I recommend going to that, there's likely at least someone who can introduce you
What's the point of those little tiny bucklers
It's a dueling category
Style
Logan fights like hell
Fights like a try hard at demos when the rest of us only go 50 to 60% 😂 it's easy to look good when the rest of us aren't trying 😉
Jesus Logan is a monster xD, i wonder how a fight of him vs simon would go
Simon would kill him. Logan is only 240lbs 6ft. Everyone he's fighting is much smaller and new. He gets leveled by the experienced opponents. That's all
@@vordermark89 damn, tbh i did not take experience into consideration. Im trying to get into armored combat but rn i dont have the time nor the physique, but im trying to train a bit and im looking into making parts of armor
@@rider4440 where are you located?
@@vordermark89 ohio, "The Shire of Rivenvale" is my closest SCA member group, but i need to get in good shape lol, i dont want to get some armor only to be thinner than initial dimensions or guess and get stuff that is too small, and i know about pad armor for training and all that
@@rider4440 armor ain't cheap that's for sure