#JustinHayward "Isn't Life Strange" is #nowplaying from our album A Night at Red Rocks with the Colorado Symphony. Click link the below to listen now. 🎧: bit.ly/3EVPrse
You're bringing back such good memories of great evenings watching and hearing you perform. Thanks for posting another great tune from your tremendous body of work.
I don’t think it’s a falling out, I just think Justin knows his voice can’t rise above the amplification any more and he likes the more intimate setting..
@@josekuhn2819 Actually, I wasn't referring to a Moody Blues reunion tour. Quite wisely, that appears to be it. With Graeme gone, it would now be a Blue Jays tour in all but name, playing Moodies repertoire. Maybe I shouldn't open the can of worms, that is Moody Blues internal politics, but Justin does seem to stubbornly fall out with people for long periods. It took two generations for Mike and Justin to reconcile, just as rumours circulated about Mike's health deteriorating. Tony Clarke is still persona non grata, long after his death. In interviews he's referred to simply as our producer at the time, & I could not find a single word of an obituary on Justin's website for Tony, but please correct me if Im wrong about that, I'd like to be. Things appeared to be fraught with Ray at the end, and after Graeme's death, he described him as someone with whom he had nothing in common with (sorry I can't quote that exactly), amongst other more positive comments, and reading between the lines of interviews with John, there doesn't seem to be much communication between the two of them now. This is the same with most bands of the era. The competition of egos, that produces great music in their youth, can later turn a bit sour with old age.........
@@artrandy that is not how I read what Justin said. Ray was fighting gout and type II diabetes towards the end of his tenure with the Moodies. With the audience size slowly diminishing, Justin said Rays heart wasn’t into it anymore. What he said lovingly about Graeme was they were roommates, they laughed a lot and had a lot of good times and even though they had nothing personally in common. Justin spoke of the post hiatus Moodies as more like former college soccer teamates. I have one former college teammate who is a great guy, I’m always glad to see him, I always loved playing with him but beyond that we never connected. We were soccer mates and that was it. Justin spoke of a music kinship with John. How they could walk into a studio room and leave 10 min later with a song. I think Justin was tight with Mike Pinder and Ray but it seems John was the rising alpha. Like most bands when it stops being a love of crafting music and becomes a business, that is when the band of brothers part dies like Pink Floyd post dark side of the moon.
@@josekuhn2819 Interesting reply, not too many people know much about the Moodies, beyond the surface gloss that the band wanted people to associate with them, so please bear with me as I have another bite at the apple. Your para 1). Im not really referring to Ray leaving the Moodies, Im aware he was not well, but its possible that Justin encouraged him to go, because Ray's performances seemed to suffer before he left, he just didn't seem to be interested anymore, that flute was getting a bit wayward (joke), and Justin is a perfectionist, in his performances and those around him. But I have no proof of that. I think they fell out afterwards. Ray, once he had left the Moodies, was free to pursue his friendship with Mike Pinder again. He went to the States with Tony Clarke, and they all posed for photographs together, as if to say to Justin and Graeme, its us against you now. Ray would not have undermined Justin whilst still in the band, he had to 'tow the party line', so to speak, for the good of the band. Afterall, Mike did walk out of the Moodies, but Ray was never part of that nasty stuff. When J and G were taking lumps out of M and vice versa, via the media, John and Ray kept quite. And Its only about 2018, that Justin and Mike became reconciled again, after nearly two generations of bitterness between them, when I think Mike had some bad news about his mental health. Again, that's my supposition. Justin never forgave Tony, I couldn't trace one word of an obituary about Tony on his website when he died, and if you know better, I'd love to be corrected. para 2) There's nothing in that which contradicts my point, but I still think it an odd thing to say about someone after they'd died. He never said it publicly when Graeme was alive, not in my recollection. Para 3) I don't believe that. Justin was still very ambitious in January 1973, when Mike walked out of the studio, after they'd just started recording the new album, and Mike was not any more, he only came back for Octave, after feeling he'd been forced into it. Mike undoubtedly hindered Justin's career at that time, Justin was not envious of Mike being the band's leader, he got what he wanted from Mike as it was, so when Mike left for good in 1978, Justin was forced to take the major decisions, which is what went wrong with the Moodies, as far as Im concerned. I think Justin was still friends with Mike until 1978, but I don't get your "teammates" stuff. And after 1978, they were 'daggers drawn'. para 4) He may well have spoken about his kinship with John, I remember. But he hasn't spoken about it recently, and John appears somewhat forlorn, but John will not criticise Justin in public, he remembers what happened to Moraz. Justin hates disloyalty. I don't think there was very much internal conflict within the Moodies over business, unlike in other bands, except with the aberration, which was Moraz. Mike moving off and shipping out caused long lasting conflict within the band, artistically, and socially, and when the Moodies recordings began to be mocked in the late 90s, for being really below par, Justin decided that the Moodies were from then on only going to be a nostalgia live act. However, Im just so grateful for the core 7..........
@@artrandy I always felt it was Graeme who was the person who was protective of the Moodies after the Patrick Moraz exit. He never said anything nice about Patrick, while Justin and John both praised Patrick's involvement with respect to giving the Moodies a new direction in sound that helped fit the 80's. With the Moodies 7th album, Gream did not have a song or poem ready for Seventh Sojourn. So Justin went up to Graeme and said I have this song, but I do not have any lyrics for it. Could you help me with it? Now did Justin turn Paul McCartney like over control of his songs? Yes, Justin freely admits that. George Harrison hated how McCartney was a dictator with respect to Paul's songs but freely admitted how generous Paul was when supporting Georges's songs. Justin was no different. There is evidence in an interview that in the 90's, Mike Pinder showed up to see Justin in the Moodies. Bringing in Tony Visconti was a move by Justin when the rest of the Moodies no longer wanted to record as they used to with all-nighters. Justin's love of 80's pop, influenced the pivot musically. There are songs I love from this period and songs that are meh! But at least there were pushing for something new.
I adore Justin, but putting his name with a song John Lodge wrote and sang seems a tad bit disrespectful. I understand it's to promote the Red Rocks concert, but to me, it would look better if it said "Moody Blues" instead of "Justin Hayward" in the title. Just my honest opinion.
I don't agree with you. It is a Moody Blues song. That sound and those songs were products of the group as a whole. I love their individual efforts, but there is nothing that compares to the magic that they made together. Each man has a share in what they accomplished and I believe has a right to promote the Moody Blues work on his own YT channel regardless of who is credited with composing the song.
You're bringing back such good memories of great evenings watching and hearing you perform. Thanks for posting another great tune from your tremendous body of work.
Love; 😊❤❤❤.
ONE of my FAVORITE FAVORITE FAVORITE SONG of all time for me.♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🙋♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️🇱🇷
Love that song and Red Rocks concert
Justin promoting a John Lodge song, just when I thought they'd fallen out. Then it finished after 22 seconds..........!!
I don’t think it’s a falling out, I just think Justin knows his voice can’t rise above the amplification any more and he likes the more intimate setting..
@@josekuhn2819
Actually, I wasn't referring to a Moody Blues reunion tour. Quite wisely, that appears to be it. With Graeme gone, it would now be a Blue Jays tour in all but name, playing Moodies repertoire.
Maybe I shouldn't open the can of worms, that is Moody Blues internal politics, but Justin does seem to stubbornly fall out with people for long periods. It took two generations for Mike and Justin to reconcile, just as rumours circulated about Mike's health deteriorating. Tony Clarke is still persona non grata, long after his death. In interviews he's referred to simply as our producer at the time, & I could not find a single word of an obituary on Justin's website for Tony, but please correct me if Im wrong about that, I'd like to be. Things appeared to be fraught with Ray at the end, and after Graeme's death, he described him as someone with whom he had nothing in common with (sorry I can't quote that exactly), amongst other more positive comments, and reading between the lines of interviews with John, there doesn't seem to be much communication between the two of them now.
This is the same with most bands of the era. The competition of egos, that produces great music in their youth, can later turn a bit sour with old age.........
@@artrandy that is not how I read what Justin said. Ray was fighting gout and type II diabetes towards the end of his tenure with the Moodies. With the audience size slowly diminishing, Justin said Rays heart wasn’t into it anymore.
What he said lovingly about Graeme was they were roommates, they laughed a lot and had a lot of good times and even though they had nothing personally in common.
Justin spoke of the post hiatus Moodies as more like former college soccer teamates. I have one former college teammate who is a great guy, I’m always glad to see him, I always loved playing with him but beyond that we never connected. We were soccer mates and that was it.
Justin spoke of a music kinship with John. How they could walk into a studio room and leave 10 min later with a song.
I think Justin was tight with Mike Pinder and Ray but it seems John was the rising alpha. Like most bands when it stops being a love of crafting music and becomes a business, that is when the band of brothers part dies like Pink Floyd post dark side of the moon.
@@josekuhn2819
Interesting reply, not too many people know much about the Moodies, beyond the surface gloss that the band wanted people to associate with them, so please bear with me as I have another bite at the apple.
Your para 1). Im not really referring to Ray leaving the Moodies, Im aware he was not well, but its possible that Justin encouraged him to go, because Ray's performances seemed to suffer before he left, he just didn't seem to be interested anymore, that flute was getting a bit wayward (joke), and Justin is a perfectionist, in his performances and those around him. But I have no proof of that.
I think they fell out afterwards. Ray, once he had left the Moodies, was free to pursue his friendship with Mike Pinder again. He went to the States with Tony Clarke, and they all posed for photographs together, as if to say to Justin and Graeme, its us against you now. Ray would not have undermined Justin whilst still in the band, he had to 'tow the party line', so to speak, for the good of the band. Afterall, Mike did walk out of the Moodies, but Ray was never part of that nasty stuff. When J and G were taking lumps out of M and vice versa, via the media, John and Ray kept quite. And Its only about 2018, that Justin and Mike became reconciled again, after nearly two generations of bitterness between them, when I think Mike had some bad news about his mental health. Again, that's my supposition. Justin never forgave Tony, I couldn't trace one word of an obituary about Tony on his website when he died, and if you know better, I'd love to be corrected.
para 2) There's nothing in that which contradicts my point, but I still think it an odd thing to say about someone after they'd died. He never said it publicly when Graeme was alive, not in my recollection.
Para 3) I don't believe that. Justin was still very ambitious in January 1973, when Mike walked out of the studio, after they'd just started recording the new album, and Mike was not any more, he only came back for Octave, after feeling he'd been forced into it. Mike undoubtedly hindered Justin's career at that time, Justin was not envious of Mike being the band's leader, he got what he wanted from Mike as it was, so when Mike left for good in 1978, Justin was forced to take the major decisions, which is what went wrong with the Moodies, as far as Im concerned. I think Justin was still friends with Mike until 1978, but I don't get your "teammates" stuff. And after 1978, they were 'daggers drawn'.
para 4) He may well have spoken about his kinship with John, I remember. But he hasn't spoken about it recently, and John appears somewhat forlorn, but John will not criticise Justin in public, he remembers what happened to Moraz. Justin hates disloyalty.
I don't think there was very much internal conflict within the Moodies over business,
unlike in other bands, except with the aberration, which was Moraz. Mike moving off and shipping out caused long lasting conflict within the band, artistically, and socially, and when the Moodies recordings began to be mocked in the late 90s, for being really below par, Justin decided that the Moodies were from then on only going to be a nostalgia live act.
However, Im just so grateful for the core 7..........
@@artrandy I always felt it was Graeme who was the person who was protective of the Moodies after the Patrick Moraz exit. He never said anything nice about Patrick, while Justin and John both praised Patrick's involvement with respect to giving the Moodies a new direction in sound that helped fit the 80's.
With the Moodies 7th album, Gream did not have a song or poem ready for Seventh Sojourn. So Justin went up to Graeme and said I have this song, but I do not have any lyrics for it. Could you help me with it?
Now did Justin turn Paul McCartney like over control of his songs? Yes, Justin freely admits that. George Harrison hated how McCartney was a dictator with respect to Paul's songs but freely admitted how generous Paul was when supporting Georges's songs. Justin was no different.
There is evidence in an interview that in the 90's, Mike Pinder showed up to see Justin in the Moodies.
Bringing in Tony Visconti was a move by Justin when the rest of the Moodies no longer wanted to record as they used to with all-nighters. Justin's love of 80's pop, influenced the pivot musically. There are songs I love from this period and songs that are meh! But at least there were pushing for something new.
Hmmm, this is John Lodge. Strange!
Great song though. Thanks
I adore Justin, but putting his name with a song John Lodge wrote and sang seems a tad bit disrespectful. I understand it's to promote the Red Rocks concert, but to me, it would look better if it said "Moody Blues" instead of "Justin Hayward" in the title. Just my honest opinion.
I don't agree with you. It is a Moody Blues song. That sound and those songs were products of the group as a whole. I love their individual efforts, but there is nothing that compares to the magic that they made together. Each man has a share in what they accomplished and I believe has a right to promote the Moody Blues work on his own YT channel regardless of who is credited with composing the song.