I recently stumbled upon an old Mios I hadn't touched for years. Max rank, potato'd... two mods installed. I was questioning all of my life choices up to that point.
@@Crimson_Valoryeah, that would be Limbo. You can even add "you're a danger and an annoyance to yourself and everyone around you unless you're a master at it". Hydroid is a wet noodle, you may find it fun to play with for a while if you're struck with a childish thought but you'll move on quickly.
I think pilfering swarm should be his base 4th ability and the mod for it should be b4 the nerf where it can scale with ability power up to 400%. And a quality of life change instead of having the tentacles flail opponents all over the place including in the air have I knock them down and left an right only so it's easier for melee damage
The real way to play Hydroid is to grab Tidal Impunity, rush into a cluster of dudes with your wave, hit a wall, then fire a Kuva Zarr at your feet. Basically, just run him like a Mach Crash Gauss.
After Pablo blesses all the remaining Hydroid and future hydroid mains, could he perhaps send a crumb of that sunlight to Valkyr? We've been using all sorts of replacements for some of her abilities and its making us insane
I guess her 1 and 4 could be looked at but she has great damage and being invincible is pretty insane, in a good way. I have red shards for more melee crit damage and I find her 3 useless so it's the perfect slot for good helminth ablities. I wouldn't put her at the top of my list for reworks.
0:16 "在汽車後面跑的男人吸到廢氣，在汽車前面跑的男人感覺很累。" wise Hydroid of the coolant - 2023 Never have I expected to hear Chinese in Sabuuchi's video and it's surprisingly not that bad, props to whoever tried to read this google translated Chinese script, gave me some good chuckles, thanks.
One thing I hope for (knowing dam well it will never happen) is for Hydroid to be able to summon his pirate crew, effectively Nekros' 4 but they're four plundering buccaneers. One with a Primary, one with a secondary, one with a melee weapon, and the last one having an archgun. You get the choice of who equips what and you can command them to hold a position or have them follow you like specters. To off set this they could have either a massive energy cost, long duration which is also followed by a semi lengthy cooldown or both. Also seeing 5 ret taus made me physically recoil
@ThrowAway-gu2lw he's still handy, overguard and nullifier throws him off but that's a wf wide problem with cc being terrible, not a limbo specific problem (and at least limbo stasis still affects overguard bullets)
I would love his rain thing to do real damage and be allowed to full strip. It's a fun ability and I LIKE holding chokepoints, so it's great. NGL if the puddle somehow stays I'll be stunned, and I'm helminthing over the tentacles unless they're somehow killing things in twenty seconds or less on base steel path.
This build, with the invig, madurai double dash, maxed augmented, vigor active and a parazon kill got me to around 780% str. Slotting in the other str mods would make the build feel way too uncomfortable but feel free to math it out or something.
I always thought Hydroid's first ability was pretty cool. Sort of like an artillery barrage. Would be neat if it actually did damage past, like... level 30.
If they don't give Hydroid an ability where he just transforms into a kraken, then i will be disappointed, because that one thing would make me play Hydroid, no matter how bad his rework could be. Basically, I want more tentacles.
People often want this but "turn into thing" never ends up well since "thing" usually stops you from using guns. If a power has to compete with whatever tops bramma spam this year, and whatever tops that in the next, then it will eventually lose.
Masochistic Hydroid main here. Replace 1 with Tharros Strike, use Vazarin. Vazarin vortex up enemies, Tharros Strike them, throw down a Pox or two modded for viral/heat/high status chance and duration on the cluster, Puddle them, use Swarm while in the puddle for extra damage. But yeah, other than that it's far too much setup to see big numbers on him like the above combo. Don't bother with Barrage, it sucks ass along with the augment. Use either the Pilfering augment if you still need loot, but better use his Surge augment. His best one imo. You were right to have base range (maybe a touch higher). He's better off built for Duration/Strength (more duration if you want to dash faster than Gauss with his 2)
Hydroid's 1 needs a built in armor-strip, for instance, one that is percentage based that scales off of strength and duration. Duration impacts the length of the effect and percentage of armor removed over time, whereas Strength is additive to the armor strip percentage - So, if you have base strength and duration, it will strip 5 to 10% of enemy armor per second. Increasing the ability duration to 25 to 30 seconds = 25 to 30% per second. Since strength is additive to the percentage, 200% strength = 100% base armor strip, and the tweaked helminth version would not have the strength multiplier. His 1 (tempest barrage) could synergize with his three other abilities by halfing the casting cost of using them while under its effect, making range more useful to him. His 2 could synergize with his 3 through a new augment that allows Hydroid to create a separate instance of his puddle - With it, when you use Tidal Surge (his 2) while in Undertow (his 3) it would create a trail behind you that becomes an Undertow puddle when his 2 ends or is cancelled. This would allow Hydroid to trap enemies passively without having to sit in his puddle or alternatively have two ongoing instances of undertow to make temporary chokepoints.
Hydroid can do things with tentacles, he just needs an armour strip, a gathering ability, and a hard root-to-the-ground so the tentacles don’t just fling people around. What’s frustrating is he has an armour *reducer* via 1 augment (which can’t fully strip), an ability that roots enemies *into* the floor (out of reach of tentys), and like 3 abilities that move enemies everywhere *but* to a central location.
i think a good ability replacement would be to give him something similar to yareli’s 4. hydroid summons a giant water vortex that sucks enemies in and deals slash damage. give it high base range so it can synergize with his 4 without having to mod a ton of range
As someone who hasn't played since before Duviri Paradox, I sure can't wait for the funny looter frame to get his shit kicked in in what DE will call a "rework".
Hydroid, limbo and alot of other frames are kinda examples of how DE makes new rooms in it's ever expanding house not realizing that they've William afton'd something behind the drywall
If Hydroid could place the puddle rather be forced to sit in it, he could do a great job at leaving it at choke points much like how Limbo can use a smaller cataclysm to trap everyone at a tight space and and standback in the rift and cap them. Tempest really should get 5% Strength scaling defense strip so you don't need a 400% pillage to strip people down or Unairu. I'm excited for the rework, but i worry what ability goes away for the "new one". I love puddle.
Theres s video out there of a guy going to level cap in disruption killing demos with only tentscle swarm, i dont yhink anything can top his dedication
Our Pablo who art in Canada coded be your word. Your reworks cometh. Your will be done, in Warframe as in DE's offices. Give us as soon as possible frame reworks And forgive us our lack of patience as we forgive new players their ignorance And bring us not false hope, as Prime times so often do. AMEN Pablo's prayer - by every Warframe player since Wukong's rework.
Hydroid USED to be able to build up stacks of surging blades on aqua blades on enemies in tentacle swarm, which could then be used for big damage while invincible in the puddle or just whenever, but then DE got rid of that for some fucking reason.
It's been so long that I've gone beyond caring for Hydroid. Just how many people were still holding up for him? I'd rather they take a look at the popsicle version of Hydroid, my dear Frost, who I thought was perfectly usable until I tried the steel path with him.
But... Frost *is* perfectly usable. Between cold damage tweaks and the Overguard change, just do like any other caster frame and run a shield-gating build + the Avalanche augment and enjoy having *two* shield gates.
@aliasisudonomo He's a helminth-dependent one-trick pony. I suppose I miss-spoke when suggesting he's unusable, but neither he is holding up too well: He's supposed to be a defensive CC frame, yet if you try using him as such you're just asking to get quickly overrun and killed. The optimal way to play him is just a worse Ember, run around like a headless chicken stripping armour and killing enemies but none of his abilities can kill and he has no damage resistance. He can't hold down a point effectively once levels hit 200 in Steel Path with his own means. He's held up by the rest of the kit you play him with, not thanks to himself. His passive should get replaced with something that's actually meaningful like a buff interacting with dealing and receiving cold procs. Freeze needs better coverage and effect. Ice Wave needs to incorporate its augment to base kit and the augment be offensive in focus instead, maybe also receive the gimmick functionality of tossing frozen enemies around. Snow Globe needs a big overhaul increasing its health scaling, reducing spam, adding an effect to being inside it for Frost and allies and increasing the debuffs for enemies (it's fine if the buffs only come to its augment), maybe even a healing augment. Avalanche can't be Frost's only noteworthy ability, I'd honestly be tempted to nerf it by increasing the power strength requirement for 100% armour strip just so it's not so overused.
Theoretically, with like incredibly high strength and range, hydroid could be really really decent as he is right now. Like you just pop an ability thst makes him gather a lot of targets into one single spot, and you could have high enough damage scaling to kill everyone in puddle. The issue is that to get those required numbers you have to use: your weapon, your operator, a bunch of weird ass uncomfortable ass mods, arcanes, a pet, and more, and the payoff is a slightly faster saryn that doesn't spread.
Man, I'm so glad Hydroid is getting a real rework this time. While he was never my favorite frame, i had always wanted to do good with him outside of just looting. I remember grinding all the way to mr5 to fight Vay Hek and get him, and i had a ton of fun with him for a while (back when I had like 4 warframes. This was also 2016 and on ps4. I was still very new) Fast foward years and now Hydroid is just that frame I really wish was for fun and/or had a cooler kit. That also goes for Inaros and Chroma (FIGHT ME.)
@@warmhotcakes yeah, using a quite good amount of Range and the augment of Elemental Ward, on the Circuit goes well so everyone can use the Armor to strength decree
Ok, hear me out, but... Hydroid is S tier for conclave because he can go immortal. You start taking damage, your shield gate pops, and you just take a dip under. The moment your shields come back, pop back up and melee that guy. Then again. No one plays conclave.
@@iwearkhakis8188 God do I wish Frost got actual tweaks instead of just continued bandaid after bandaid. Does he work? Sure, technically doesn't suck as much as Inaros, Caliban, or a Post-Eximus-Rework world Limbo, but, man.
@@megagrowlithe true, Icy Avalanche giving Overguard i think was fairly massive and the changes to Cold recently did indirectly buff him a small amount, but for the most part he really just needs *proper* QoL and tweaks to his snowglobe so it requires less investment to compete with frames like Gara, but it would also be nice for his 1 and his passive to not be ass
The approach I've seen work best with Hydroid is to just say fuck trying to be precise on tentacled enemies, and bring your biggest fuckoff AoE weapons like the Zarr with him. Group stuff, pop out of pool, one-shot the area, and back down you go. The problem is that Hydroid himself can only be the setup, his abilities don't do enough damage to let you get away without good guns too. ...also Resonator subsume with the augment lets you lead the AI around and directly into your tentacles like idiots so that's funny
Ive given up Sabuuci. I just wanted you to experience Peter Griffin ship, but you just couldnt humor me. Just know... the answer is the Skaut. Ill just enjoy your content now.
Yeah so many frame needed it more than hydroid like like all of limbo, wisp's shock mote needs replacing, and frames like banshee where the only useful thing on them is subsumable
I his hydroid yesterday. He said "warframe" in region chat then logged off...bruh you need to max out the fucking bonewidow that is 99% done on lvl 39...Bruh
I think we all can agree that the puddle needs to go away. Maybe make hydroid ride his Kraken like merulina and drag all of his abilities with the kraken (tentacle swarm moving with you with the help speed of the tidal wave)
Puddle is his most interesting ability, it's just severely underpowered. The issue is that right now it acts as an ability that you want to channel for a long time. If you could quickly channel it instead, it would be pretty good! Like what if the damage was way higher, and it was duration based, for example, with a really low duration?
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PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS REAL HES GETTING REWORKED???
Limbo requires to become an entirely new frame to be in any chance good. He sucks and gets fucked over by 4/3 enemy factions easily, getting fucked by corpus and corrupted effortlessly. The ONLY use i seen for him at all. Aside from index (in which case, just get a khora) Is with aquablades and the augment, that's it. That to be actually a halfway useful slot waster since you're still limbo Tldr: Limbo FUCKING sucks and needs to become an entirely new frame to have any chance of being usable outside of one mission.
What would you change about psychic bolts? seems like it's in a good state right now as a really good armor strip, if anything I'd personally change her 4 since it doesn't scale as well as the rest of her abilities due to the energy drain.
Recasting rips them away from currently afflicted targets. Remove the cap on the number of enemies it can be applied to. As long as shrunken exists, especially as a subsume, there is no reason for Bolts to have a cap.
seeing 5 red tauforged shards in hydroid caused me actual pain
All according to plan.
@@SabuuchiNow sell him without removing the shards first
As a sad hydroid main, what if i take your tau forged red shards and raise you 3 umbral forma with 5 tau forged shards?
it caused me great joy
morgan ?
I loved that "what the fuck was I cooking?" bit. Perfectly encapsulates what it feels like to go back to a frame you haven't touched in a year or two
I recently stumbled upon an old Mios I hadn't touched for years. Max rank, potato'd... two mods installed. I was questioning all of my life choices up to that point.
My strictly crit based Burston Prime from 6 years ago...
IF Hydroid doesnt get 60m range like Equinox maim for 100% pilfering drop chance im shitting on steam discussions
I just want his 1 and 2 to be good. I'll take anything. 💀
@@Sabuuchi if they just give him his armor strip back i will be happy or even if they do that and scaling damage :D will have made me salivate
@@darkumineru1681Guess what!
Sabuuchi: Makes viable build for Hydroid using Undertow
DE: Immediately removes undertow
Lmao
Current Hydroid VS other frames is like Nunchucks VS Stick
it takes 10x the effort and time investment to be half as effective
That implies that the act is flashier though, and Hydroid gameplay ain’t flashy
@@Crimson_Valoryeah, that would be Limbo. You can even add "you're a danger and an annoyance to yourself and everyone around you unless you're a master at it".
Hydroid is a wet noodle, you may find it fun to play with for a while if you're struck with a childish thought but you'll move on quickly.
Imagine him being only slightly better...
@just4universe219 not true, he needs a lot more than that but ig those things that he needs are big fixes or QoL
I think pilfering swarm should be his base 4th ability and the mod for it should be b4 the nerf where it can scale with ability power up to 400%. And a quality of life change instead of having the tentacles flail opponents all over the place including in the air have I knock them down and left an right only so it's easier for melee damage
If i see hydroid prime on rule34 ill leak your IP address, bank info and credit card info
It's gonna happen there's no escaping it
Bet
I'll leak it myself then make hydroid prime rule34, styled after PrimeBooba.
The real way to play Hydroid is to grab Tidal Impunity, rush into a cluster of dudes with your wave, hit a wall, then fire a Kuva Zarr at your feet.
Basically, just run him like a Mach Crash Gauss.
After Pablo blesses all the remaining Hydroid and future hydroid mains, could he perhaps send a crumb of that sunlight to Valkyr? We've been using all sorts of replacements for some of her abilities and its making us insane
We'll get a valkyr rework...some day..in 4 years..probably?5?idk
We’ll probably see Inaros changes before then
@@jdxoxo6615 it could be,but DE is veeery slow with reworks,or anything actually.
I guess her 1 and 4 could be looked at but she has great damage and being invincible is pretty insane, in a good way. I have red shards for more melee crit damage and I find her 3 useless so it's the perfect slot for good helminth ablities. I wouldn't put her at the top of my list for reworks.
Her 4 is absolutely busted. Rhino on steroids
Tauforged shards. 600% power strength and yet he still has issues. Glad hes getting a rework
Warframe guy looking at this video and then back to his tidal surge augment hydroid flying across the plains in 20 seconds: *"P A T H E T I C"*
0:16 "在汽車後面跑的男人吸到廢氣，在汽車前面跑的男人感覺很累。" wise Hydroid of the coolant - 2023
Never have I expected to hear Chinese in Sabuuchi's video and it's surprisingly not that bad, props to whoever tried to read this google translated Chinese script, gave me some good chuckles, thanks.
youre welcome lmao
hydroid has been my favorite frame for quite some time and seeing his history then seeing his rework genuenly makes me happy
One thing I hope for (knowing dam well it will never happen) is for Hydroid to be able to summon his pirate crew, effectively Nekros' 4 but they're four plundering buccaneers. One with a Primary, one with a secondary, one with a melee weapon, and the last one having an archgun.
You get the choice of who equips what and you can command them to hold a position or have them follow you like specters. To off set this they could have either a massive energy cost, long duration which is also followed by a semi lengthy cooldown or both.
Also seeing 5 ret taus made me physically recoil
Sounds very cool
I'm going to give you the biggest copium of your life, but you can kinda do that now with an on call crewmate and the khal ship power
@@godzillacc5 I know, I use that thing a lot. More than I probably should.
@@Paladin_Kou Fuck that. I made all those spectres, they can be summoned basically every mission, I'm going to use the whole lot.
This is why he came out with the ballistica prime.
Nice callback to your Frost video with that Hydroid of the coolant pools intro
Needs more water
About 2 cubic tons in a puddle. Right over there.
"Limbo is broken" in a good way right? Because .... i find him very handy
no
@ThrowAway-gu2lw he's still handy, overguard and nullifier throws him off but that's a wf wide problem with cc being terrible, not a limbo specific problem (and at least limbo stasis still affects overguard bullets)
I would love his rain thing to do real damage and be allowed to full strip. It's a fun ability and I LIKE holding chokepoints, so it's great.
NGL if the puddle somehow stays I'll be stunned, and I'm helminthing over the tentacles unless they're somehow killing things in twenty seconds or less on base steel path.
In the end, Pablo did save us. (At least judging from the notes) Bless him and his cats
0:31 best moment in Tennocon history.
Now you've made me genuinely curious. What is the highest strength stat you can get. Like modded (so no nidus buff and such)
This build, with the invig, madurai double dash, maxed augmented, vigor active and a parazon kill got me to around 780% str. Slotting in the other str mods would make the build feel way too uncomfortable but feel free to math it out or something.
@@Sabuuchi so conclusion. Way too high for anyones sanity
I always thought Hydroid's first ability was pretty cool. Sort of like an artillery barrage. Would be neat if it actually did damage past, like... level 30.
Good news: Viral Tempest makrs it a DPS power.
I had 60 Forma in my Hydroid Prime before his rework, 2 of which were Umbral.
They called me crazy-
seeing 608% strength actually out of bodied me for a moment.
If they don't give Hydroid an ability where he just transforms into a kraken, then i will be disappointed, because that one thing would make me play Hydroid, no matter how bad his rework could be. Basically, I want more tentacles.
People often want this but "turn into thing" never ends up well since "thing" usually stops you from using guns. If a power has to compete with whatever tops bramma spam this year, and whatever tops that in the next, then it will eventually lose.
*notices your cosmic horror-turned-kink*
That beginning 😂 the exhaust and tired lmao
Masochistic Hydroid main here.
Replace 1 with Tharros Strike, use Vazarin. Vazarin vortex up enemies, Tharros Strike them, throw down a Pox or two modded for viral/heat/high status chance and duration on the cluster, Puddle them, use Swarm while in the puddle for extra damage.
But yeah, other than that it's far too much setup to see big numbers on him like the above combo. Don't bother with Barrage, it sucks ass along with the augment. Use either the Pilfering augment if you still need loot, but better use his Surge augment. His best one imo. You were right to have base range (maybe a touch higher). He's better off built for Duration/Strength (more duration if you want to dash faster than Gauss with his 2)
Hydroid's 1 needs a built in armor-strip, for instance, one that is percentage based that scales off of strength and duration. Duration impacts the length of the effect and percentage of armor removed over time, whereas Strength is additive to the armor strip percentage
- So, if you have base strength and duration, it will strip 5 to 10% of enemy armor per second. Increasing the ability duration to 25 to 30 seconds = 25 to 30% per second. Since strength is additive to the percentage, 200% strength = 100% base armor strip, and the tweaked helminth version would not have the strength multiplier.
His 1 (tempest barrage) could synergize with his three other abilities by halfing the casting cost of using them while under its effect, making range more useful to him.
His 2 could synergize with his 3 through a new augment that allows Hydroid to create a separate instance of his puddle - With it, when you use Tidal Surge (his 2) while in Undertow (his 3) it would create a trail behind you that becomes an Undertow puddle when his 2 ends or is cancelled. This would allow Hydroid to trap enemies passively without having to sit in his puddle or alternatively have two ongoing instances of undertow to make temporary chokepoints.
2:43 I wish I knew sooner
Hydroids 1 used to be fun for locking down all interception points at once. But with the charge up changes and all that is really a pain.
Hydroid can do things with tentacles, he just needs an armour strip, a gathering ability, and a hard root-to-the-ground so the tentacles don’t just fling people around. What’s frustrating is he has an armour *reducer* via 1 augment (which can’t fully strip), an ability that roots enemies *into* the floor (out of reach of tentys), and like 3 abilities that move enemies everywhere *but* to a central location.
i think a good ability replacement would be to give him something similar to yareli’s 4. hydroid summons a giant water vortex that sucks enemies in and deals slash damage. give it high base range so it can synergize with his 4 without having to mod a ton of range
i was thinking of that but when his 2 ends/u cancel it similar to mach crash
As someone who hasn't played since before Duviri Paradox, I sure can't wait for the funny looter frame to get his shit kicked in in what DE will call a "rework".
I remember the days of the train man forcing 1k forma down peoples throat. Now I see 5 tauforged being used on hydroid
Hydroid, limbo and alot of other frames are kinda examples of how DE makes new rooms in it's ever expanding house not realizing that they've William afton'd something behind the drywall
10/10 outro scene, almost lovecraftian.
If Hydroid could place the puddle rather be forced to sit in it, he could do a great job at leaving it at choke points much like how Limbo can use a smaller cataclysm to trap everyone at a tight space and and standback in the rift and cap them.
Tempest really should get 5% Strength scaling defense strip so you don't need a 400% pillage to strip people down or Unairu.
I'm excited for the rework, but i worry what ability goes away for the "new one". I love puddle.
what if puddle combines with his 4
which i hope happens puddle is just fun
I just want the pirate man to be good i hope he gets better hes really awkward as is and i hope he gets better synergy and abilities in general
* sees 6 red archon tauforged shards on hydroid*
Mr Sabuuchibi don't feel so good
Pillage is also perfect for him because you know, he's a pirate.
And thats what they do.
I need that outro music asap plz.
once pappy pablo give hydriod the flooding of dev love he needs hopefully inaros is next he is so stale and dried out
and now i'm on the waiting room for the eventual limbo rework.
wee
At this point I'd be more productive to start fixing old frames than to keep adding to the list of mastery fodder.
2:50 SOUNDS LIKE OBERON TO ME PAL
5 tauforged red shards almost gave me an anyurism
There's insanity and then THIS
As someone who just did this as well-
You aren't stupid. Just crazy :)
Theres s video out there of a guy going to level cap in disruption killing demos with only tentscle swarm, i dont yhink anything can top his dedication
I see no Tidal Impunity. Am sad.
I care about Hydroid. I always wanted the boy to work.
Now if they can only make Frost not the worst version of Frost since Gara.
Our Pablo who art in Canada
coded be your word.
Your reworks cometh.
Your will be done, in Warframe as in DE's offices.
Give us as soon as possible frame reworks
And forgive us our lack of patience as we forgive new players their ignorance
And bring us not false hope, as Prime times so often do.
AMEN
Pablo's prayer - by every Warframe player since Wukong's rework.
Hydroid USED to be able to build up stacks of surging blades on aqua blades on enemies in tentacle swarm, which could then be used for big damage while invincible in the puddle or just whenever, but then DE got rid of that for some fucking reason.
It's been so long that I've gone beyond caring for Hydroid. Just how many people were still holding up for him?
I'd rather they take a look at the popsicle version of Hydroid, my dear Frost, who I thought was perfectly usable until I tried the steel path with him.
But... Frost *is* perfectly usable. Between cold damage tweaks and the Overguard change, just do like any other caster frame and run a shield-gating build + the Avalanche augment and enjoy having *two* shield gates.
@aliasisudonomo He's a helminth-dependent one-trick pony.
I suppose I miss-spoke when suggesting he's unusable, but neither he is holding up too well: He's supposed to be a defensive CC frame, yet if you try using him as such you're just asking to get quickly overrun and killed. The optimal way to play him is just a worse Ember, run around like a headless chicken stripping armour and killing enemies but none of his abilities can kill and he has no damage resistance.
He can't hold down a point effectively once levels hit 200 in Steel Path with his own means. He's held up by the rest of the kit you play him with, not thanks to himself.
His passive should get replaced with something that's actually meaningful like a buff interacting with dealing and receiving cold procs. Freeze needs better coverage and effect. Ice Wave needs to incorporate its augment to base kit and the augment be offensive in focus instead, maybe also receive the gimmick functionality of tossing frozen enemies around. Snow Globe needs a big overhaul increasing its health scaling, reducing spam, adding an effect to being inside it for Frost and allies and increasing the debuffs for enemies (it's fine if the buffs only come to its augment), maybe even a healing augment. Avalanche can't be Frost's only noteworthy ability, I'd honestly be tempted to nerf it by increasing the power strength requirement for 100% armour strip just so it's not so overused.
inb4 the hydroid rework makes strength useless or something
Theoretically, with like incredibly high strength and range, hydroid could be really really decent as he is right now. Like you just pop an ability thst makes him gather a lot of targets into one single spot, and you could have high enough damage scaling to kill everyone in puddle. The issue is that to get those required numbers you have to use: your weapon, your operator, a bunch of weird ass uncomfortable ass mods, arcanes, a pet, and more, and the payoff is a slightly faster saryn that doesn't spread.
That guy really a member of Tentacult
I'd rather die
Hydroid of the frontal lobe
My favorite warframe.... my precious hydroid... don't give me hope...
Man, I'm so glad Hydroid is getting a real rework this time. While he was never my favorite frame, i had always wanted to do good with him outside of just looting.
I remember grinding all the way to mr5 to fight Vay Hek and get him, and i had a ton of fun with him for a while (back when I had like 4 warframes. This was also 2016 and on ps4. I was still very new)
Fast foward years and now Hydroid is just that frame I really wish was for fun and/or had a cooler kit. That also goes for Inaros and Chroma (FIGHT ME.)
Try the Support Chroma, is weirdly fun, specially on the gamemode from Duviri
@@SkeithSheep support Chroma?
@@warmhotcakes yeah, using a quite good amount of Range and the augment of Elemental Ward, on the Circuit goes well so everyone can use the Armor to strength decree
@@SkeithSheep huh, ill try it
@@warmhotcakes a umbral build with a aceptable amount of range and duration can do the job
Wow, finally a frame that can work without Glaive Prime and Epitaph...
*looks at 5 tauforged crimson shards* 👀
Fish man needs to be good, i swear to fucking god if he just turns into even more of a gimmick frame than be already is im going to shuck my balls
Ows in limbo...
Ok, hear me out, but...
Hydroid is S tier for conclave because he can go immortal. You start taking damage, your shield gate pops, and you just take a dip under. The moment your shields come back, pop back up and melee that guy.
Then again. No one plays conclave.
its funny how all the water related frames seem to SUCK drain pipes, this group also includes frost cause ice be hard water
Yareli and frost are both excellent warframes
This mf does not play Yareli.
this might have been true in the past but not anymore, Yareli and Frost are pretty goated now
@@iwearkhakis8188 God do I wish Frost got actual tweaks instead of just continued bandaid after bandaid. Does he work? Sure, technically doesn't suck as much as Inaros, Caliban, or a Post-Eximus-Rework world Limbo, but, man.
@@megagrowlithe true, Icy Avalanche giving Overguard i think was fairly massive and the changes to Cold recently did indirectly buff him a small amount, but for the most part he really just needs *proper* QoL and tweaks to his snowglobe so it requires less investment to compete with frames like Gara, but it would also be nice for his 1 and his passive to not be ass
Hear me out, puddle with Nezhas firewalk and invest in range, strength and sprint speed and reduced cast cost..... just try it, ride the waves
His 1 and 2 are lacking or feeling you dont press them at all if you are max ranked on hydroid, which makes me sas since I love the idea of barrage
As a hydroid main simce his release, i just hope hes not trash anymore
The approach I've seen work best with Hydroid is to just say fuck trying to be precise on tentacled enemies, and bring your biggest fuckoff AoE weapons like the Zarr with him. Group stuff, pop out of pool, one-shot the area, and back down you go. The problem is that Hydroid himself can only be the setup, his abilities don't do enough damage to let you get away without good guns too.
...also Resonator subsume with the augment lets you lead the AI around and directly into your tentacles like idiots so that's funny
I'd max him by using the MIGHTY SEER
They're removing piss puddle lmao
the rework better come with a visual upgrade on his 4.... the slappy tentacles coming out of nowhere do NOT look good.
damm that build is older than me
Outro song?
oh nice, i did the same thing just after they announced the rework ;D
Ive given up Sabuuci. I just wanted you to experience Peter Griffin ship, but you just couldnt humor me. Just know... the answer is the Skaut. Ill just enjoy your content now.
Hydroid Kraken is the Elden Beast???
26 forma what the hell were you cooking
Meth
praise the lord Pablo😇
Yeah so many frame needed it more than hydroid like like all of limbo, wisp's shock mote needs replacing, and frames like banshee where the only useful thing on them is subsumable
Just get rid of his 3 and fix his damage on his is all I ever wanted for Hydroid lol
Jokes on you I got two hydroid primes that I have no idea how they ended up there please god help me they won’t lea
We need a climate change update to Hydroid. Cat 5 this be-aaatch
Oh no!...
Ten tickles
HIS????
PRONOUNS???????
hey dont attack limbo he's great you better do a video if i don't find a recent one on your channel
I his hydroid yesterday. He said "warframe" in region chat then logged off...bruh you need to max out the fucking bonewidow that is 99% done on lvl 39...Bruh
i just hope the keep the puddle power, i thinks its funny.
...but why?
200 forma or nothing
Nah fuck that. 1,000 forma Hydroid when?
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Watch them making him even worse
I think we all can agree that the puddle needs to go away. Maybe make hydroid ride his Kraken like merulina and drag all of his abilities with the kraken (tentacle swarm moving with you with the help speed of the tidal wave)
Puddle is his most interesting ability, it's just severely underpowered.
The issue is that right now it acts as an ability that you want to channel for a long time. If you could quickly channel it instead, it would be pretty good! Like what if the damage was way higher, and it was duration based, for example, with a really low duration?
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS REAL HES GETTING REWORKED???
Yup, confirmed at Tennocon!
u heard pablo in the begining
I thought Hydroid was the worst frame, how is Limbo worse? He can... um... crowd crontrol and ... yeah.
ok maybe he sucks
Limbo requires to become an entirely new frame to be in any chance good.
He sucks and gets fucked over by 4/3 enemy factions easily, getting fucked by corpus and corrupted effortlessly.
The ONLY use i seen for him at all. Aside from index (in which case, just get a khora) Is with aquablades and the augment, that's it. That to be actually a halfway useful slot waster since you're still limbo
Tldr: Limbo FUCKING sucks and needs to become an entirely new frame to have any chance of being usable outside of one mission.
thats mainly on a high range 4 build limbo is quite fine
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Bro just had to diss limbo in the end there didn't he. What's next, you're gonna say nyx is bad too huh? (Note: nyx is actually pretty solid)
Nyx is good but is overdue with a few tweaks, mainly to Psychic Bolts. Nyx hate is mostly overblown.
What would you change about psychic bolts? seems like it's in a good state right now as a really good armor strip, if anything I'd personally change her 4 since it doesn't scale as well as the rest of her abilities due to the energy drain.
Recasting rips them away from currently afflicted targets. Remove the cap on the number of enemies it can be applied to. As long as shrunken exists, especially as a subsume, there is no reason for Bolts to have a cap.
I solo a lot of stuff with Nyx, she's way better than people give her credit for.
Nice