How Olympiacos Spoiled Sloukas’ Revenge
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2023
- Olympiakos survived OAKA hell & won against Panathinaikos for the 18th time in the last 19 tries. But what exactly allowed the Reds to come away with a victory? In this video, BasketNews’ Augustas Suliauskas analyzes the Greek Derby: the new Vezenkov in Alec Peters, the huge importance of Nikola Milutinov in this game & the performance by Kostas Sloukas.
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Olympiacos is a one of a kind basketball team. It's a family. I'm going to Greece just for tht reason. Can't wait to watch those superstars up close ASAP!!!
You're going to love the big games! "Peace and Friendship Stadium" might be the most deceptive venue name in the world 🤣
Oly and Madrid to me have the strongest Locker Room cultures in Euroleague this past decade. No matter the roster they will find ways to win
@@wonderlandian8465 true. It's worth watching the aftermovies of Oly's games the team itself uploads after every game ( /watch?v=9S2KNkgHeOk). One can tell how solid and family like is the chemistry in the lockers between players, coaches, staff and management. From the celebrations to the rituals before entrance in the court, the taunts and the hungry wolves pack sounds, everything shows why Olympiakos is FAMILY first above all.
That name is definitely as deceptive as stadium names can get lol@@dimitriskaravias1427
barca not bad either@@wonderlandian8465
Milutinov - Canaan - Walkup is such a sick defensive base to build a team on
actually the core is walkup-papanikolaou-fall elite defenders ,then caanan milutinov is good too
@@zachpapp1889 may need to add to this list William-Goss.. ;)
This will be a crazy good defensive team this year
Canaan is my man!!!
The whole starting 5 by Olympiakos, hell the entire 12 man rotation is insane defensively.
You have Walkup - Canaan - Papanikolaou - Peters - Milutinov
then Larentzakis - Goss - Shaq - Sikma and Fall
Those are incredible defensive players (only "weak" links would be Peters and Sikma but still serviceable)
After this match are all happy, Olympiacos won the game and Sloukas played 30+ minutes...
And 3 millions in the pocket..🤣
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still missed first 7 minutes and the OT,just like last year :p whenever kostas plays more than 25~ mins ye starts the silly turnovers,happened plenty of times last year
Finally Peters getting real chance.....dude crazy good shooter,good rebounder....finally his time arrived to shine
Seems like a perfect fit with the 1st unit
He needed to improve his D from last year. And I think he did
@@AugustasSuliauskas Indeed, he is! He fits very well with either Fall or Milutinov. I just wish my team also had someone like Bruno Caboclo instead of Sikma. Sikma is the weak link and will probably remain so. Just too damn slow, can't guard anyone with speed or strength!
Peters isn’t strong as Vezenkov but he has better dribbling, better fadeaway shoot . Last year it was hard to find rhythm with Vezenkov playing near 30 minutes per game
@@woods6425 you mean more than 30 minutes dude! 33 minutes average..
Great job, Basketnews! You did an excellent analysis of the match. We can't wait to see Mous and Ignas fit in Bartzokas' masterpiece ⚪🔴⚪🔴
thank you very much!
That's why Bartzokas was using him 20 mins max, with that time he was maximizing his effectiveness, scoring, best assist season for him last year, and letting him take important shots but no, his ego was too much and he wanted to play 30 mins minimum, what happened? He scored 20 points assisted only 2 assists! (While being there main point guard of the team) and in the end he choked hard because at this age (33+) you can't play in this rythm effectively and with clear mind, now Enjoy your place as a leader in the most toxic team of Euroleague, feeding your ego and of course your pockets, Traitor.
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel :)
@@elrodtherockerPoutsa
Μην τους ανοίγεις έτσι τα μάτια
@@ben767fun δεν νομιζω ο Αταμαν να ειναι τοσο μπουφος και να μην το εχει καταλαβει ηδη πως ο Σλουκας δεν ειναι αυτο που νομιζει πως ειναι
Guys I know you feel like he’s the biggest traitor but he did what he felt was best for him and there’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t think doing big conclusions from game 1 is necessary.
actually Pao would never have a 10 point advantage if Fall was ready to play, so i am pretty confident that Olympiacos has the upper hand in every situation from now on
offence need to be better we are bad at half-court..
@@tt2318i agree but its still early in the season. We will find out groove. With Fall the second unit will be much better both offensively and defensively.
and brazdeikis will join too , most probably at the second unit@@killjoy3373
Last season I watched Olympiacos live several times. During every warm-up Alec was simply FANTASTIC. And when it was time to play, he went in like a SCARED FART making one blunder after another, foolishly not believing to himself. Everyone watching knew that the problem was mostly psychological. Bravo to him for the step-up and bravo to Bartzocas for waiting. As a GAVROS I am happy that he, at-last, freed himself and took that first step. I got one thing to say to him:
ABOUT FU... TIME ALEC!!!...HAPPY TIMES COMING...WISH YOU HEALTH AND KOLOFARDIA RE MAN.😆
It really wasn't clear to me that you didn't mention Milutinov as one of the best reinforcements this year. In my opinion, he is what Campazzo is for Real, a returnee to the team in which he dominated and now he is even better, much better...
I do say he was the main key in this game so I’m not sure I get your comment. Anyway, amazing shape Milutinov is in as he’s going to be vital to Olympiakos’ success this year
@@AugustasSuliauskas I wasn't thinking about this video, I was thinking about the preparatory period. Some other players are always emphasized, as if he was in the background... No hard feelings
thanks for clearing that up@@boza5684
this 3-guard system bartzokas used in the second half will cause problems to many teams this year!can't wait to see how well iggy will fit in! Nikola-Fall duo will dominate! Nice win,1-0 and thats all
Wrong title, Sloukas did us wrong. That was OLYMPIACOS REVENGE
Milutinov💪💪🇷🇸🇷🇸
Serbian Fighter
Top player and a genuinely good person.
He was so much in revenge mode that miss the Juancho 3pts at the last attack
The big difference between the two teams is called Bartzokas....he has an amazing skill to adapt to every game challenge plus lead the way to modern basketball plays and ideas while others just follow or even get stuck into traditional outdated tactics.......Pao will get better but so will Oly when Fall and Ignas roll in the rotation and Shaquille is healthy...plus we still haven't seen Sikma in good shape which will happen sooner or later
Congratulations for the analysis...
thank you
Sloukas wanted to play hero ball and win the game himself. He played too much, got exhausted and had a record high of turnovers. At the last play he had Juancho ready to shoot it, but instead went for a floater (if you can even call it that) from the 3 point line with Canaan all over him 😂 Panathinaikos will regret paying so much for a player that puts himself first over the team.
Word for Word
@@vskillz96 And Olympiakos got Goss, who seems to be a completely different player compared to the past that he was there, with a lot less money. He is a player that is clutch and can take important shots when needed and he can also play defense, while Sloukas cannot. Honestly Sloukas leaving was a blessing in disguise. The only real loss was Vezenkov, but at least Peters shows he can be 70% as good as Vezenkov and that's honestly all Olympiakos needs from him.
@@PersonaPrime Yes of course, people who doubted Goss don't watch or they're Casuals, Goss was one of the most Crucial Players of Real Madrid at the most important games last Season (Against Partizan Series, against Barca, against Olympiacos) but no he proved himself in the biggest stage but some people doubted him. Vezenkov was dominant but i also think with the players Bartzokas added (also Kanaan & Peters stepping up) the scoring and Rebounding of Vezenkov will be covered, As for Sloukas he's more than Covered 😂😂
@@vskillz96Poutsa
i mean thats sloukas,thats why you play him lol
Amazing Video really high quality analysis. Thank you so much !
Happy to hear, thank you!
Excellent video man! Well done!
Thanks a lot! Great game delivered great content
Panathinaikos overpaid for Sloukas and simply lacks the personnel to play good perimeter defense. Vildoza cannot play alongside Sloukas because of that and Grant is their only really good defender. That will be an issue all season long. Yesterday Olympiacos scored 15/32 3p shots and if Larentzakis and Papanikolaou weren’t frustrating to watch, it would be a much easier win. Not to mention Fall missing the game forcing Olympiacos to play with a one center rotation.
And on top of those, Iggy.
Barzokas clearly commanded to defend against Sloukas asist actions and no to scoring action. It was proved to be right decision, Sloukas is not an elite scorer but he is an elite asist man.
It is very sad that you have not mention yet the death of Giannis Ioannidis, one of the best European basketball coaches of all time...
Crazy game
Absolutely agree
Great analysis once again guys! Keep up the good work!
I appreciate that a lot! Thank you!
WE RULE THIS LAND 🔴⚪️
At least kwstas played for 31 minutes, happy for the man. He got what he wanted.
if hes about to play 5 mins more in a match and lose the next 3 ... well not so value for money i assume.
but anyway i cant say anything hes the most expensive paid retirmend player atm
veery good analysis...the question is 'why panathinaikos didn t forces the only center of olympiakos ,and why didn t used kostas Antetokoumpo for that issue?
Nice vid!
Pao at this stage looked scary. It's not a "team" yet, but there's great prospect, especially with Mitoglou to replace Lesort / Huancho. There is a definite gap there and both Papapetrou and Mitloglou can help, though still Pao does not have a secondary center of high caliber.
Vildoza does not impress, but Grigonis does so. It's not just his difficult shots, but the timing showed mental fortitude.
In terms of defence? Well, that remains to be seen, the prospects are not great there. I have to stress here that Euroleague is brutal and if you have weaknesses they will be exploited.
Olympiakos on the other side, looks even more scary. I will dare say that Miloutinov & Fall combo is one of the best in the league. Yes, Tavarez is probably better than either of them, but together they look so solid and strong.
I see that Olympiakos has picked a great deal of players that showed prospect in the shadow of better ones, or while playing on lesser teams:
* Walkup is top-class and notice how he shot without any hesitation - the same player that teams gave 1 meter gap to shoot last year and he didnt dare!!! He is just getting better and better!
* Goss can play the 2nd guy, but he can adapt to being the first or close. He didn't look scared taking big shots and so far he has delivered on all the preseason and initial games.
* Peters wow! Losing the Euroleague MVP only to have his backup who played little last year be the MVP of the round! Impressive work on his body, he used to be weak defensively! As people say, if you want to become a great player and earn money, go play for Bartzokas at the '4' position!!
* Sikma looks totally out of place for this team. It's early I know, but this looks like a terrible risk! He is too slow and i can't fathom what he can offer to the team that we couldn't have found on a more versatile player who can help on the center position more.. Olympiakos does not really need his passing..His slow feet got effortlessly exploited on the very first game. Not sure how this move can be salvaged.
* Fun fact about last offence, the question we all had, Canan was screaming for a pass, Walkup rose to the challenge and i'm sure Goss could have taken that too. At least people want to take responsibility. Now can they actually score? We'll see..
Thank you sir! Great comment by you as well. I’m definitely high on both Greek teams for this season and glad we have this rivalry back with both teams looking strong with a lot of potential to improve. That’s only good for EuroLeague as well as Greek basketball
@augustas great analysis of the game. My impression is that Panathinaikos is stronger/improved. This is good for Euroleague. Olympiakos is different than last year. I get the impression that the reds have more versatility in their game this year. The improvement of Panathinaikos will make Olympiakos stronger. I believe both teams will be in the Euroleague's play offs. Ernangomez is probably the best new player for Panathinaikos.
Thank you! Definitely great for EuroLeague & Greek basketball in general both teams are strong. Finally the real rivalry is back. And it’s only the 1st game.. The way both teams look make me think the upside is super high for both
Best analysis!good job basketnews🔴⚪️
Thank you! So glad to hear
@augustas spot on Analysis man. Good job! A great video exposing PAO’s lack of defensive cohesiveness (and/or lack of personnel to be good at it), while pointing out Walkup’s excellence on both sides of the court. Olympiacos will crumble without Thomas Walkup. Thats why Sloukas’ departure is important and will affect OLY’s chances of getting back to the F4. I wonder whats going to happen without him in a couple Playoff games 🤔
Thanks a lot! I like what I saw from both teams. Even the transition defense problem for PAO. this is super upgradable as the season goes on. And talking about Walkup - he’s sooo important, let’s just remember the 3Q of the semifinal of last year..
Nice breakdown Augie. Peters went to college at Valparaiso, Indiana, not far from where I live.
Thanks man! Was he a star there?
@@AugustasSuliauskas Solid but not a star. Valpo is a smaller school compared to in state powerhouses Purdue, Indiana, and Notre Dame.
you must feel very lucky in Lithuania..Ignas will become a true leader in coach B hands very soon...
Olympiakos is so much better " team " than pao...
Olympiakos for ever...
Best team in Euroleague for the past 4 years....
So? Trophy never can't take just cause can't... 6⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ only PAO... For ever
Past 4 years?? Two years you were not even in the playoff... Oly fans are unbelievable
Sloukas will be the tombstone of Panathinaikos
That was a good one lol
How? Pana hasn’t been good for years now. If anything they will be better than the previous years.
Sikma have to become better, than Olympiakos nearly has not a weakness
PAO will need time and Olympiacos seems to find the solutions to overcome Vezenkov's loss (mostly) and Sloukas loss (secondly).. William Gos and Milutinov were extraordinary additions but Kannan and Peters will step up this year and they are like new additions too..Ignas is an addition for the future.. Probably both teams will need extra additions.. PAO will wait for Michailiuk (Celtics won't keep him until January) and Olympiakos should search for an athletic 4-5..
I told you about Nigel Williams-Goss. An MVP in he hands of coach B. And we all expected Alec Peters to step up
It's only 1 game. Even Goss himself had a smile about that last super tough three. Not saying he's a bad player just want to wait and see more of him in Olympiakos system. But that one hell of an introduction to fans:)
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I think you should mention how Bartzokas didn't let Sloukas, create letting him score 20 points bit also making him end with only 3 assists and 8 turnovers
Olympiacos chose to cut slou$ creation... and just let him score like he is rookie on league
Sloukas almost did the double double, 20 pts 7 turnovers. Ego above team. Rumors say that Juancho still waits alone in the corner for the three at the end of regular time.
So glad he left and double happy he joined our archrivals. Such an ego does not fit in OLY's locker room.
very nice game, but really... 19 wins out of the last 20 games.. the difference between these two teams is enormous
But I believe we can agree that the rivalry is back. PAO are at least relevant again so it’s only good for EuroLeague and Greek basketball
slou cash 😂😂😂😂😂
Olympiacos also needs work.the players have new roles. Pao also has a very deep bench. If pao had win it would be because of oaka.
4:26 may I ask how many steps these were?? 😂
Sloukas is a good player but basketball is a team-sport. With his play he actually proved and showed why coach B was right and he was not using him more than 20-25 min.
Big players dont realise that after 31-32 no matter how much training you do, you lose weight ... noone can beat time! Thats why he was so prone to mistake, from tiredness he kept losing balls and did so crucial turnovers that cost his team the loss. Pana played slightly better than my team, had more choices (Fall was not playing, so Milu was the only center) but Sloukas cost them their loss
For the sake of Greek basketball I hope we see more games like these, without idiot fans spoiling the fun and the joy. It is a game and not a war, for gods sake!
olympiakos is still building after the loss of the best euroleague player..
TOMAS WALKUP
My main impresion from this game was the giantic or better collossal ''poutsa'' that all panathinaikos fans,players and in general organisation had in their mouths in the end.Thanks for asking!Have a great evening and keep up he good work.
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@@vasilliskontis6330 Ξεμπουκωσε πρώτα αρχιδι και μετά μίλα
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Giannakopoulos Ataman Sloukas difficult personalities to work with,let see..
It's crazy how people base their whole opinions on one or two moments. Because if PAO didn't make simple mistakes in the end they would have won. And now because of one or two moments Olympiacos is unbeatable now. I should stop reading these dumb comments, not good for my brain. 😅
what 2 moments? We beat you easy in neutral ground 24 points difference and we beat you with 2 starters missing (Fall , Brasdeikis) in your home court. 20.000 statues at the end. Oly better in all stats
Same goes for euroleague's final and last missed shot by Sloukas. It's moments.
A lot of bitter oly fans here because sloukas went to a team that paid him his value lol
Coach Bartzokas
Who knows! It's only the first game. Too early to say.
Of course! Nobody is jumping to conclusions here. Just reacting to what we saw in game 1 & potential improvements, upside for both teams. I liked stuff from both teams and I think it’s super good for Greek basketball and EuroLeague this rivalry is back for good
Ataman's style of play doesn't fit Greek teams who are used to play more defensively. I don't know if he is going to succeed but every other coach like him Kazlauskas, Pini Gershon failed at that style of Basketball. Coach Bartzokas needs players of that type and I was very puzzled when the name Mike James came up. he had one prima donna in the team, Sloukas, which he had trouble managing. Bartzokas needs soldiers not stars.
What you are saying makes no sense. The roster Ataman build is specifically made for his style of basketball, this isn't the national team.
Ataman véry slow in his responses. Mpartzokas is very smart. At o.t he could put kalaitzakis high pressure on Yuokap to destroy his creation. He could put the fresh Antetokoumbo on Miludinov. Oly played such hard defense and pao does not score. He had to respond with high defense he did not.
Sloukas playing too much on his own. Very similar to what Vildoza did when he was on the court. Both of them had to share ball a little bit more, especialy with Grigonis shooting well in the game
Pick and roll master? Lol he can pick and roll as much as he wants now just to bite his jersey at the end of the game in tears 😂
Ο προπονητης του Ολυμπιακου ηξερε ολες τις αδυναμιες του Σλουκα για αυτο και δεν το κρατησε,σε κατι φασεις στην αμυνα απλα περπάταγε,ο κανονικος Ολυμπιακος θα ειναι δυσκολη ομαδα και φετος λογο του προπονητη!
We shouldn't forget that Panathinaikos lost the victory in the last shot. So easily the result could be different. Then what would we say about the players and who made a great performence or not? I believe Panathinaikos made a big game, but Olimbiakos wan the game in the end, because of his bigger experience and better shooting in the overtime.
It's too soon for any conclusions, Panathinaikos is a one-month team, they haven't been trained on more than 8 times all together, even though has showed the potential of this team, forcing Olympiakos to extra time, with all the respect to Olympiakos on how good team is. PAO needs to improve the perimeter defense as they don't have strong bodies to make it easy and learn how to break the screens. On the offense, they have to learn how to play pick and roll the guard with the center, I counted at least 3 times sloukas and lessort failed to communicate therefore the turn-overs, also the spacing and ball movement are a problem. All these problems are problems of a new team. I hope at the end all the athletes will remain strong and healthy for a nice competitive season.
P.S. I am a PAO fan
poutsoula se krazei olh eurwph
Just few days before in the greek super cup final, Olympiacos destroyed pao with 24 points on the head.
There's no sloukas revenge or anything. Too much hype for a role player. Goss or Walkup are ten times the player sloucash is.
W/o Moustapha Fall, without Mckissick essentially and with 90-10 help from the refs.
I don't even count Brazdeikis as an absence.
18-1 wins against pao in the last 19 games.
Sloukas revenge for what?? What did olympiacos do to him 😂😂
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Good job, as for Oly fans you can be happy for a few more months (The refs had protect Milutinov ,see Juancho dunk)...
see PAO's 19-6 free shots, see lessort's fast break dunk (travel), see lessort's foul on milutinov on milutinov's 2nd alley-oop, see juancho's foul on milutinov on his 'block', see lessort's foul on mckissick's drive. there seems to be a pattern here. seems like lessort has refs protection. maybe its just me though
γελαει μεχρι και ο Αταμαν με τις πιπες που γραφεις
Read better ,the refs had made a lot of mistakes but the only pattern was milutinov stay till the end (as for the fouls your defence was a foul ) but as i said before be happy for now....
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All I am seeing is that Pao is at top level so early already. If they find chemistry by March, then watch out. Time is on their side more than most of their opponents. Imo Mitoglou was a bigger miss for Pao, than Fall for Olympiacos.
lol imagine saying Mitoglou was more important than Fall. Olympiakos was playing with literally 1 center the whole match. If Oly had Fall it would have been another 20+ point blow out again, because the one quarter PAO build a difference , the 2nd one, Oly was playing with Sikma at the 5. Imagine if it was Fall. 20 point difference again
How a player that has never played for a team ( since his return) is a bigger miss than a main squad player the last two years?
Eisai vlakas
Fall was THE most influential payer of any team in the EL over the past 2 seasons. Meanwhile, Mitoglou was shooting junk. Papapetrou & Brazdeikis were big losses for their teams, but PAO should have won a game where Pap had one of the worst games of his career, Larry & McKissic lost their minds after some calls they didn't like and Olympiacos ended up with just 5 guys they could trust. Both sides will propably improve massively over the next few weeks
If Fal was available, we'd see another Rhodes ridiculing. The difference in unit quality is vast.
If referees calls all the faouls make the olympiakos other team win the mats, olympiakos defence only for the wwf
ponas kai ftaiei o peiraias
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your english is for the pouts
70-30 σε παίξανε για να μην υποτιμήσουν το προϊόν πρώτη αγωνιστική.. 20αρα στο κεφάλι ειχε πάλι..
30 Οκτώβρη έρχεται το 3ο χέρι. Μπορεί και το 3ο πόδι... 😂😂🤣🤣