I've been playing HK for some time and i never watched a video about it, when i first defeated the brooding malwaek i did this exact dance and later was scratching my head when i found everybody does it xd
@@joaquinvallejos5603 I Read This As Jumping *Over* The Grub. So Now I’m Imagining The Knight Jumping Back And Forth, Over The Grub Seemingly To Taunt Them
I recently replayed my save remembering nothing. Went to peaks and went: oh! A miner enemy.... then i heard her yell after striking her down... i realized: oh no what have i done... YOU WERE MYLA
Poor Myla. I think Team Cherry erred in not including any way of canonically saving her for certain, because she's possibly the sweetest little bug in the entire game. 'course, you can technically save her just by not killing her even after she's corrupted until you get the 'Dream No More' ending and slay the Radiance, freeing all the bugs corrupted by its influence, but you never get to see this, and she's only saved by implication.
I think it was intentional. To show the fate of hollownest to the players on a person level. Giving the players the same feel of helplessness most of the kingdoms inhabitants must have felt watching their loved ones pass away. It's unfortunate sure, but I think it was intentional
Correction about saving Myla, it can't actually be done. The song she is singing is the Radiance's song of victory, and she is already under the Radiance's influence when you first meet her, though not enough for her to be hostile to you EDIT: So you technically can save her if you get Dream no More or Godmaster endings, as Team Cherry apparently stated that the bugs with minor infections do not die after the infection is destroyed.
@@ethanhonaker5558 It depends on what the fate of the infected bugs after the Radiance is defeated for good is, something that can currently only be speculated on. If the bugs with minor infections return to normal (Its too late for any bugs with severe infection), then all you have to do to save her is just not kill her and she would probably be fine, but if all the infected bugs become lifeless corpses afterwards, then no.
Im pretty sure team cherry said something about the fate of the infected is fine as long as they dont die or something? I have no idea where the source is so take it with substantial salt
you also can only get other acheivments if you save him and in the end saving him is better as you still get an acheivment (though a different one) and just more content in general'
I don't know what's worse. That I saved Zote, or that I actually thought he was serious every time I met him until I tried one of the fool's trials. I deadass thought he was a hunter on a bad day, and that he was just an asshole because he couldn't admit he needed help back there 😭😭😭
@Squant hard not to when someone's that Invincible, that Fearless, that sensual, so Mysterious, so Enchanting, tremendously Vigorous, super Diligent, completely Overwhelming, absolutely Gorgeous, no doubt Passionate, sometimes Terrifying, all the time Beautiful and Powerful of a unit
if thou dreamnails him he talks about having slain a million plus thou can attack him all thou wants, he's not actually dead; he also survived deepnest. what i'm saying is that he is an ultra-tank; incredibly high defense, low attack
@Wyshi He talks a lot about his parents disapproval of him. I think he's just some guy who wanted to be a warrior and was mocked for it until he convinced himself of the traits he thinks a warrior would have.
@@ulric5584 Agree. Bretta is better off after she realizes what she truly wants and decides to seek for herself. The knight is actually a emotionless, genderless creature, and it never will become her lover.
I do kind of like cloths end from a narrative perspective. It’s bittersweet and hits you in the feels. But at the same time. All future play through of mine will end with her alive because I can’t take it again
See with Cloth it’s hard. She desperately wants to become a warrior, and to die a warriors death having bested a truly strong foe. If you speak to cloth after the mantis fight, as a ghost, she even mentions how happy she is that she gets to see her partner again. In my eyes, letting Cloth live is kinda a worse fate for her, since she doesn’t get to live to be a warrior and will likely die of the infection when it progresses, becoming a husk of the radiance, and having never accomplished her goal. Endlessly waiting for a fight that is not to come, yearning for the solace of her partner. Letting her live is actually kinda cruel, thinking about it now.
I JUST ACCIDENTALLY ERASED HER PHANTOM WITH THE DREAM NAIL AND YO I JUST HAD TO COME HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAVE IT, AND YO NEVER EVER AGAIN GITTA DO THAT AGAIN AAH IM IN PAIN
I saved Zote from everything my first playthrough. My second time i left him to die to the Vengefly King and spent a good five minutes playing keepy-uppy with his skull XD
I feel bad for Zote. To me he is a character who desperately wanted to become a valiente and heroic person. He tried his hardest to become that hero by putting himself through rigorous training and taking on dangerous enemies. In the end he was unable to change. It’s sort of sad really….
not really. he doesnt try to become a warrior but just convinces himself he already is one without putting in any effort. i guess he cant help it because of how detatched from reality he is
There is another conclusion to Zote's story, it ends with him being trapped in one of the coliseum cages. I think it involves saving him in greenpath and talking to him in the city of tears and deepnest
I think I realized why we can save Sly but not Myla, because rescuing Sly opens up his shop, a shop with items the Knight needs, while saving Myla would do nothing.
Sly is also someone with a far stronger mind than Myla and she was already deeply infected when we meet her the 1st time, the infection just wasnt in complete controll, unlike Sly who was only getting started on this whole infection thing, hell its likely you didnt actually "save" him and rather just helped him push back the infection for at least sometime
@@anthraxmacabre5200 Possibly because the Infection feeds on dreams and desires, Sly desired to get back to Dirtmouth, as did Bretta. Myla wanted to strike a good cyristal vein and become rich, Traitor Lord wanted to be strong... Some wishes seem to pull the infected harder towards full loss of control.
@@erwannthietart3602 Enough time to kill the Radiance and cure most lesser infected bugs, the only ones who can’t be cured are the over bloated orange fist monsters.
correction , you dont need shade cloak for the queens garden (1:25) you only need ismas tear. theres a part of fog canyon that has a pit of acid , swimming through it takes you to the queens gardens
A few things about the myla route: broken vessel shade skip can be done without longnail/MoP, and a nail upgrade can be used instead of an extra mask, itll be quicker to get. Glowing womb can be used as well, but that takes longer to get as well. Also the recently discovered stallball tech can be used in place of the shade skip. Unless you're doing some REALLY difficult skips, you do have to kill dung defender to get ismas. The spike tunnel in the broken elevator shaft also does not require dash master or shade cloak. Dash master makes it easier but I dont know why shade cloak was mentioned. With dash master its dash > pogo > dash, without its dash > fireball > pogo > dash. Hope everyone saves myla at least once in their hollow knight journeys!
@@cosmopoiesecriandomundos7446 The intended way to get glowing womb requires crystal dash, but if you do the same "Spike tunnel" tech: dash>fireball>pogo>dash multiple times in a row, you can get through it with just fireball dash and claw. Looking up "spike tunnel hollow knight" has several videos showing it off.
I'm so sorry Myla, I just wish I could hear your singing again. Hear the crumble of rock beneath you pickaxe as you swing it. The beam of your hardhat flashlight will always shine in my heart. It would always give light to what would be a cold dark heart without you. You would always glance back as I came through your tunnel. I became busier and busier, your smile would give me strength for wield my nail. No matter how many times I passed by you, you sung. I could see the sparkle and crack of each rock being split, every rock you kick, every pile you would carry away. When you left it felt like someone carried you away. You were more than a diamond in the rough, you were the reason why these mines would glow I mean it. I cry every night hoping someday I'll see you again.
As bitter as Cloth's death is, it truly is the best ending for her, as leaving her alive after Traitor Lord denies her the solace she seeks after the death of her former partner, endlessly waiting for a worthy fight.
"Just hit him a lot and don't get hit." I swear this isn't demeaning advice, it's actually the best way to run Traitor Lord. The fight is absolute agony if you try to space yourself away from him for any of his attacks besides the shockwave. However, if you shove yourself right up against him and spam your attack while walking into him, the fight suddenly becomes a trivial effort where one of three things happens: he crouches so you shade dash through him as he lunges forward, he jumps so you just casually walk under him, or he starts preparing the shockwave, which is the hardest to recognize and can be dealt with in a couple different ways, safest being to walk away from him until he releases it, then shade dodge through it to get back into position. The whole fight lasts less than 20 seconds if you can keep the heat on him. Also remember even just upgrading your nail once can shave a dozen hits or more off a boss, so if you've been putting off that trip to the smith, maybe plan a detour.
If you beat Grey Prince Zote, you'll have to fight him in the Pantheon of Hallownest. This is Team Cherry's way of letting is know that saving Zote is discouraged.
I kinda have an issue with "saving cloth" its clear that she wanted death, she wanted to die honorably and now she can go back to her partner who has long since died, but by "saving" her, you deny her what she wished for and she expresses sadness
Agreed, plus leaving Hallownest is not a happy ending. She'll lose her mind as soon as the King's influence leaves her, and she'll be just a regular bug without dreams.
When she died on the first game, I cried and swore I'd revenge her, even if I needed to kill every single one of them. (Also promised to make a 3d printing of her)
i mean, if you get the awakened dream nail, and the voidheart, you can banish the radience to the void, ending the infection, freeing all thos infected bugs, including myla
People explaining how to save them buddies in the most convoluted way ever meanwhile i couldn't even figure out were to go after the first 2 or 3 bosses or so😂
You need wings to get ismas without cdash, and you need either cdash or ismas to beat the game, unless you do a difficult skip to get to monomon which requires wings anyways.
I kinda wish we could save her in actuality rather than taking advantage of awkward game progression and skips to do so, but from a game design perspective it’s probably better this way since it adds more weight among other things to myla.
some will save cloth, but allowing her to die is what she would truly want. the honour to fight along side such an energetic soul while also being able to witness and be there for their final moments is a true friendship. rest in peace cloth...
Is talking about Radiance. That phrase talks especifically on how Radiance kills the Hollow Knight with his own nail. Meaning more literally, with his own mind.
1. Cloth. Both choices are good. You can give her honorable death and consume her dreams, leaving her in peace or let her live and find another adventure 2. Myla. Take radiance to the void, plague will dissapear. But if i remember correctly, these crystals driving miners insane, so she's doomed anyway 3. Zoth. Whatever you do he will die eventually lmao. He is really lucky to not die from literally any creature down below, his maximum is these little gray/white bugs in pathways. Im really surprised he wasn't killed instantly in deepnest
1:24 you need the shade cloak to fight the boss but you can use isma's tear to enter the garden. 2:51 lol. The carnival shocked face. 4:22 you don't need to beat the soul master to get the crystal heart. So long as you buy a lantern. 4:35 actually I think you can do a legit low % run since the dreamers don't require the crystal heart. Just isma's tear. 4:54 it doesn't look like 6 masks are required. Since you don't need to bounce twice on shade. 5:14 do you? You can use a simple key to beat the dung defender then leave and enter from the east side of the waterways. 8:40 for those wondering: failing to save him from DeepNest doesn't kill him. 9:04 lol having every follower.
I did some testing in an attempt to have neither The Dreamers + THK nor Myla killed... And it's possible, but you have to compromise on getting her infected by defeating Soul Master, as you need to kill him for Pantheon unlocking and Desolate Dive/Descending Dark are required to go to Junkpit on the first place. So yeah, you got to commit boss genocide for the sake of Embrancing the Void, and in order to obtain Voidheart you'll also need to complete White Palace... Without Crystal Heart (as it fully infects Myla, which may as well be permanent). Passing the last buzzsaw squeeze is such a hard ordeal that I had no choice but to slow the game's internal clock (using Cheat Engine). Otherwise still doable, but good luck doing it. You also need to use the float glitch in order to pass the thorn hallway (more of a cerimonial "red carpet walk" if you have Crystal Heart) just before the throne, and do do that you need to access the Pale King's Workshop; That way you can use the Workshops's (rather non-Euclidian layout-oriented) left side exit to perform the Glitch (you need room transitions to do so). Oh, did I mention that you also have to skip Dung Defender post-fight room usage in order to get Isma's Tear (as it requires Crystal Heart to speed through the thorn squeeze)? And Isma's Tear itself is absolutely necessary as it is the only way to get the Love Key and thus fight and defeat The Collector. This skip requires Monarch's Wing and is easier before you collect Shadow Cloak. Thing is, the Shadow Cloak itself makes the Monarch Wings Crystal Dash skip easier (you can then get Sharp Shadow to extend your Dash distance), plus you need to fight Hornet Sentinel anyways and skipping Monarch Wing usage for reaching her it easy enough, so you may be tempted to get Shadow Cloak before Isma's Tear. Don't do it. I had to slow down the game time because skipping Isma's Tear Crystal Heart usage after collecting Shadow Cloak is excruciatingly hard.
I didn't know Myla could be saved! If only there was a way to save the dreamers. I wanna give Hornet her mother back. I wanna have Monomon restore Quirrel's memories. Lurien, hm, might be someone Lemm could get along with.
@@TukGhost No, I went there and when I was about to destroy it. I went out of the room and went back in to see what happens. He disappeared and the grim troupe didn't go. He was murdered or something 😂
what if you let mylo to be infected, just simply don't kill her, defeat the final boss and return to her. Wouldn't she be alright? You have destroyed the source of the madness she must become ok
That's not possible because you won't be able to return after you beat the game, it will just take you to where you last saved and the infection will stay, but technically after getting the true ending , which is defeating the radiance , all the bugs would be free from the infection but you won't be able to come back and confirm
That fight legit made me feel anger, THK took me 4 tries and 8 minutes, but Traitor Lord took me 10 attempts and 30 minutes, and I did that after beating THK 💀
The methods to save Myla has some interesting implications lore-wise; namely that Soul Master and the Crystal Heart are hindering the spread of Radiance. By being clever enough to utilize one's own death shade and exceptionally skilled with quick reflexes, The Knight can ensure these barriers remain in place, preventing not just Myla, but likely other bugs from being infected by Radiance. Meaning more lives saved overall in addition to Myla and her beautiful singing voice. Also, the fact that we can't really "save" Zote, just open others eyes to his bs or let the braggard die, is very funny and appropriate since you can't "save" people from their own stupidity, just point it out to others or let them suffer the consequences.
I don't think defeating Soul Master and obtaining the Crystal Heart somehow causes the radiance's influence to spread faster, rather is an implication that in the time the Knight was doing those things, her prison weakened, similar to how obtaining the monarch wings will cause the Forgotten Crossroads to become hyper-infected even if none of the dreamers have been killed.
So to "save Myla" you have to do a complex (likely unintended) skip, avoiding an important key item, like your some kinda speedrunner? Something tells me that doesn't really count as saving her
What if Mila never got infected in the first place? Instead she just got suspicious on the knight because he wanted to to steal all of her crystals after she finishes mining them, so myla put some contact lenses to look like the infected miners in order to scare off the knight, which sadly lead to her demise, this confirms that our little knight is in fact, not as kind hearted as team cherry wanted us to think it is.
@@mrsmithers69 the knight tricked us into thinking that everything that he is doing for hallownest is from the kindness of his heart, in reality he wants to destroy and consume radiance for his selfish reasons, this allowed him to become an unstoppable force that will destroy the hollow knight universe, and the only ones to blame it's US, because we helped him achieve this great power
@@eduardpaduraru3090 the knight in the entirety of the game is quite literally an emotionless husk; or at least outwardly is. We as the player outside of lore have next to no clue how the knight thinks nor what its true motivations even are. That's what makes its character so intresting, anyone is allowed to interpret the knight however they want. However, acting like your own version is inherently correct is just misleading. It's certainly a plausible theory but as I stated we have no clue what its motivations are so your version is only a theory/interpretation
I completely walked past Zote ‘cause i didnt see him, just the monster and i thought i wasnt ready to fight it. Glad to know im not missing anything lol
Shame that Myla doesn't say or do anything else after saving her from her fate. Would've been a nice easter egg if she showed up in Dirtmouth at the end, like Cloth. Except Zote. He's a douche.
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Ghost when Myla isn't infected after beating hollow: **happy vessel noises and starts dancing**
So the only way to save Myla is to put her out of her pain
_No voice to cry suffering_
No mind to think
Or just leave her alone when she becomes infected and hope defeating The Radiance cures her (although we won’t see this in game).
"No voice to cry suffering" (ghost cannot noise peep)
My idea of saving Myla is just never talking to her. Shcrodinger's Myla. She isn't infected if you don't observe her being infected.
More precisely, she is both infected and not infected at the same time. By observing the outcome, you change the result!
Homer: “If I don't see it, it's not illegal!”
Same way I save the pots in elden ring :)
you only gets sick if you see a doctor
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I love how HK players seem to have universally decided that rapidly going back and forth is the Knight's cute little happy dance.
What else would it be?
Spamming Abyss Shriek at nothing?
Throwing Shade Soul at the wall?
I've been playing HK for some time and i never watched a video about it, when i first defeated the brooding malwaek i did this exact dance and later was scratching my head when i found everybody does it xd
My happy dance is to jump over an over every time I find a Grub.
@@isaiaholaru5013 “Aw He’s So Cute”
*Screams With The Souls Of The Damned While Taking A Void Form*
@@joaquinvallejos5603 I Read This As Jumping *Over* The Grub. So Now I’m Imagining The Knight Jumping Back And Forth, Over The Grub Seemingly To Taunt Them
I recently replayed my save remembering nothing. Went to peaks and went: oh! A miner enemy.... then i heard her yell after striking her down... i realized: oh no what have i done... YOU WERE MYLA
Nooooooo :(
@@TukGhost i didnt know :(
@@Klotzy4433 I literally cried for a half hour straight when I realize I had killed her
@@TukGhost If you dream nail infected Myla, in her thoughts she's still singing the same song
omg same. I was just vibin and not paying attention. RIP Myla
Poor Myla. I think Team Cherry erred in not including any way of canonically saving her for certain, because she's possibly the sweetest little bug in the entire game. 'course, you can technically save her just by not killing her even after she's corrupted until you get the 'Dream No More' ending and slay the Radiance, freeing all the bugs corrupted by its influence, but you never get to see this, and she's only saved by implication.
I think it was intentional. To show the fate of hollownest to the players on a person level. Giving the players the same feel of helplessness most of the kingdoms inhabitants must have felt watching their loved ones pass away. It's unfortunate sure, but I think it was intentional
A hard lesson everyone must learn: you cannot save everyone
That's the point.
Hollow knight isn't a happy story.
...... because of the implication
Better than nothing tho
Correction about saving Myla, it can't actually be done. The song she is singing is the Radiance's song of victory, and she is already under the Radiance's influence when you first meet her, though not enough for her to be hostile to you
EDIT: So you technically can save her if you get Dream no More or Godmaster endings, as Team Cherry apparently stated that the bugs with minor infections do not die after the infection is destroyed.
I didn't know that. Thanks :]
So you can't save her? 😢
@@ethanhonaker5558 It depends on what the fate of the infected bugs after the Radiance is defeated for good is, something that can currently only be speculated on. If the bugs with minor infections return to normal (Its too late for any bugs with severe infection), then all you have to do to save her is just not kill her and she would probably be fine, but if all the infected bugs become lifeless corpses afterwards, then no.
Im pretty sure team cherry said something about the fate of the infected is fine as long as they dont die or something? I have no idea where the source is so take it with substantial salt
@@Fireluigi1225 as long as heavy alterations aren't struck upon the victim, they can be saved. If they start attacking, you better act quick.
I like how you get AN ACHIEVEMENT for leaving Zote to be eaten by the vengefly
Best achievement in game
you also can only get other acheivments if you save him and in the end saving him is better as you still get an acheivment (though a different one) and just more content in general'
@@DaddyHarold if you don't save him, you don't have to fight him in the Pantheon. That alone makes it worthwhile to let him die
@@greatbrandini3967 I’m just talking about the completion aspect, if it’s hard for you to kill core in the pantheon it’s your call u if you kill him
I feel bad I did this on accident on my first play through I didn’t see him 😢😢😢😭
I don't know what's worse. That I saved Zote, or that I actually thought he was serious every time I met him until I tried one of the fool's trials.
I deadass thought he was a hunter on a bad day, and that he was just an asshole because he couldn't admit he needed help back there
😭😭😭
@Squant hard not to when someone's that Invincible, that Fearless, that sensual, so Mysterious, so Enchanting, tremendously Vigorous, super Diligent, completely Overwhelming, absolutely Gorgeous, no doubt Passionate, sometimes Terrifying, all the time Beautiful and Powerful of a unit
if thou dreamnails him he talks about having slain a million
plus thou can attack him all thou wants, he's not actually dead; he also survived deepnest. what i'm saying is that he is an ultra-tank; incredibly high defense, low attack
@Wyshi He talks a lot about his parents disapproval of him. I think he's just some guy who wanted to be a warrior and was mocked for it until he convinced himself of the traits he thinks a warrior would have.
@@zacknattack So he's basically Jerry
@@lordzeus2056 i mean
yeah
i guess
i love how you teach how to save every character except zote, you just teach us how to kill him
he makes bretta leave, it's a worthy fate
@@ulric5584 Agree. Bretta is better off after she realizes what she truly wants and decides to seek for herself. The knight is actually a emotionless, genderless creature, and it never will become her lover.
@@samsonlao7002 You kinda can call it a bit "hollow"
Killing Zote is the wrong choice
@@gabomarquez2720 oof
I love how he just explains one of the most difficult speedrunning discoveries like it's just basics of the game
"You should save him to the Vengefly King"
No, I don't think I will.
Why? The Life Ender will avenge it!!!
@@TukGhost hi, I just completed pantheon 3,i regret saving the All mighty fucker
@@kratos_benjamin 💀🤣
@@Nova-tl4yc hi, im in pantheon 5, *I REGRET SAVING THE ALL MIGHTY FUCKER*
@@kratos_benjamin SAME
I do kind of like cloths end from a narrative perspective. It’s bittersweet and hits you in the feels. But at the same time. All future play through of mine will end with her alive because I can’t take it again
See with Cloth it’s hard. She desperately wants to become a warrior, and to die a warriors death having bested a truly strong foe. If you speak to cloth after the mantis fight, as a ghost, she even mentions how happy she is that she gets to see her partner again. In my eyes, letting Cloth live is kinda a worse fate for her, since she doesn’t get to live to be a warrior and will likely die of the infection when it progresses, becoming a husk of the radiance, and having never accomplished her goal. Endlessly waiting for a fight that is not to come, yearning for the solace of her partner. Letting her live is actually kinda cruel, thinking about it now.
I JUST ACCIDENTALLY ERASED HER PHANTOM WITH THE DREAM NAIL AND YO I JUST HAD TO COME HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAVE IT, AND YO NEVER EVER AGAIN GITTA DO THAT AGAIN AAH IM IN PAIN
Well she kinda wanted to fight as a warrior and die to see her lover, so in the end we help her accomplish her wish and let her see her lover
There’s another way to save Myla… and it’s defeating Pantheon of Hallownest, and destroying the Absolute Radiance
Too difficult 💀
@@TukGhost Too difficult? It only took me a year.
@@Neon_Dragon18 a year it only took me 10 years
💀 ps I still haven’t beaten hollow nest
@@animeekg3219 Wait, you guys had a life?
@@DarktoLight561 I wish 😔
Myla was one of my favourite NPC's of all time. She might not say or do much. But she is just one of those memorable characters
I saved Zote from everything my first playthrough.
My second time i left him to die to the Vengefly King and spent a good five minutes playing keepy-uppy with his skull XD
If I bring myself to do that, I am never recovering from that guilt
@@UselessAccounttJust do it on the second save slot for the achievement
I feel bad for Zote. To me he is a character who desperately wanted to become a valiente and heroic person. He tried his hardest to become that hero by putting himself through rigorous training and taking on dangerous enemies. In the end he was unable to change. It’s sort of sad really….
not really. he doesnt try to become a warrior but just convinces himself he already is one without putting in any effort. i guess he cant help it because of how detatched from reality he is
@@seesaweffect8095 Yup - this. Basicly definition of a covert narcissist :).
@@seesaweffect8095 nah zote us just an arrogant bug who everyone is justified for hating
He is basically Jerry of Hallownest
he also calls you a monster once you SAVE HIM from deepnest
so yeah
no
Cloth: Yay! a warrior lives another day!
Myla: You have no emotion if you let Myla die >:(
Zote: *Chewing noises*
No fair! How comes Pizza Tower gets one morality choice (snotty) while Hollow Knight gets exactly two?
(JOKE. THIS IS A JOKE.)
I prefer to leave Zote struggling in Deepnest. He will stay there forever if you don't save him. So far he has been there for three months already uwu
Yea leave him *Hanging* you have pantheon to slay
You have gained instant respect from me.
just letting him die to the vengefly king is better imo because he just gets deleted from the game entirely
@@Gravity_304 I found it absolutely hilarious how he just started whacking his head around.
How dare you fools treat the all mighty, Beutiful, strongest WARRIOR like this?.
There is another conclusion to Zote's story, it ends with him being trapped in one of the coliseum cages. I think it involves saving him in greenpath and talking to him in the city of tears and deepnest
eventually if you replay the first trial, he then appears in Dirtmouth, its my first playthrough and thats the 2nd to last place he was
@Izzy M i wish itd be 3rd to last place and we could make him lEAVE
That's where I'm at. I didn't get to fight Zote in the first trial; haven't beaten the third yet, and he's still in the Coliseum cage.
if you replay the first trial with zote in the cage, you fight him
I think I realized why we can save Sly but not Myla, because rescuing Sly opens up his shop, a shop with items the Knight needs, while saving Myla would do nothing.
Sly is also someone with a far stronger mind than Myla and she was already deeply infected when we meet her the 1st time, the infection just wasnt in complete controll, unlike Sly who was only getting started on this whole infection thing, hell its likely you didnt actually "save" him and rather just helped him push back the infection for at least sometime
@@erwannthietart3602 right but if we can save Sly and Bretta, why does Myla get screwed over?
@@anthraxmacabre5200 Possibly because the Infection feeds on dreams and desires, Sly desired to get back to Dirtmouth, as did Bretta. Myla wanted to strike a good cyristal vein and become rich, Traitor Lord wanted to be strong... Some wishes seem to pull the infected harder towards full loss of control.
@@erwannthietart3602 Enough time to kill the Radiance and cure most lesser infected bugs, the only ones who can’t be cured are the over bloated orange fist monsters.
correction , you dont need shade cloak for the queens garden (1:25) you only need ismas tear. theres a part of fog canyon that has a pit of acid , swimming through it takes you to the queens gardens
That is correct, but you need the shade cloak to fight against the traitor lord.
@@TukGhost i'm sure he can be cheesed out with desolate dive and facetank builds.
@@VeryPeeved you need it for the shade cloak barrier outside
@@VeryPeeved it can’t
@@VeryPeeved Isn't Desolate Dive earned from Soul Master? So Myla would fall
A few things about the myla route: broken vessel shade skip can be done without longnail/MoP, and a nail upgrade can be used instead of an extra mask, itll be quicker to get. Glowing womb can be used as well, but that takes longer to get as well. Also the recently discovered stallball tech can be used in place of the shade skip. Unless you're doing some REALLY difficult skips, you do have to kill dung defender to get ismas. The spike tunnel in the broken elevator shaft also does not require dash master or shade cloak. Dash master makes it easier but I dont know why shade cloak was mentioned. With dash master its dash > pogo > dash, without its dash > fireball > pogo > dash. Hope everyone saves myla at least once in their hollow knight journeys!
Thank you for your contribution!
Don't you basically need crystal dash to get the womb charm though?
@@cosmopoiesecriandomundos7446 The intended way to get glowing womb requires crystal dash, but if you do the same "Spike tunnel" tech: dash>fireball>pogo>dash multiple times in a row, you can get through it with just fireball dash and claw. Looking up "spike tunnel hollow knight" has several videos showing it off.
I have heard that the patch matters too in how long it can take a pro player to make that skip.
I'm so sorry Myla, I just wish I could hear your singing again.
Hear the crumble of rock beneath you pickaxe as you swing it.
The beam of your hardhat flashlight will always shine in my heart.
It would always give light to what would be a cold dark heart without you.
You would always glance back as I came through your tunnel.
I became busier and busier, your smile would give me strength for wield my nail. No matter how many times I passed by you, you sung.
I could see the sparkle and crack of each rock being split, every rock you kick, every pile you would carry away.
When you left it felt like someone carried you away.
You were more than a diamond in the rough, you were the reason why these mines would glow I mean it. I cry every night hoping someday I'll see you again.
sob
I ain’t reading all that
@@Maxx-shortsnobody asked you to ya silly goose
@@mandyfrade3047 Womp womp
I hated the Traitor Lord enough, for how a broken enemy it was , and how hard to defeat. But i was not ready to have Cloth diying in the face off D,:
As bitter as Cloth's death is, it truly is the best ending for her, as leaving her alive after Traitor Lord denies her the solace she seeks after the death of her former partner, endlessly waiting for a worthy fight.
"Just hit him a lot and don't get hit." I swear this isn't demeaning advice, it's actually the best way to run Traitor Lord. The fight is absolute agony if you try to space yourself away from him for any of his attacks besides the shockwave. However, if you shove yourself right up against him and spam your attack while walking into him, the fight suddenly becomes a trivial effort where one of three things happens: he crouches so you shade dash through him as he lunges forward, he jumps so you just casually walk under him, or he starts preparing the shockwave, which is the hardest to recognize and can be dealt with in a couple different ways, safest being to walk away from him until he releases it, then shade dodge through it to get back into position. The whole fight lasts less than 20 seconds if you can keep the heat on him.
Also remember even just upgrading your nail once can shave a dozen hits or more off a boss, so if you've been putting off that trip to the smith, maybe plan a detour.
my second playthrough I left zote in the deepnest 🥰🥰🥰 best decision ever
💀
If you beat Grey Prince Zote, you'll have to fight him in the Pantheon of Hallownest. This is Team Cherry's way of letting is know that saving Zote is discouraged.
NOOOOOO I DONT WANT BRETTA TO BECOME SAD, I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULD NEVER KILL GREY PRINCE ZOTE
I kinda have an issue with "saving cloth" its clear that she wanted death, she wanted to die honorably and now she can go back to her partner who has long since died, but by "saving" her, you deny her what she wished for and she expresses sadness
Agreed, plus leaving Hallownest is not a happy ending. She'll lose her mind as soon as the King's influence leaves her, and she'll be just a regular bug without dreams.
Is it proven that that’s her partner? For All we know it could’ve been an older sibling she looked up to.
Fun fact, Myla has special dreamnail dialogue after she is infected and trying to kill the knight
It's her trying to resist and accepting it's only a matter of time before she succumbs to the infection. It makes the whole thing even more sad.
When she died on the first game, I cried and swore I'd revenge her, even if I needed to kill every single one of them. (Also promised to make a 3d printing of her)
ONG this JUST happened to me 20 minutes ago. I've never been sadder then when I had to kill him. IM STILL CRYING.
@@purplviking6181 yes, me too buddy, my condolences
That’s exactly what I did when Quirrel died
Myla got infected in my playthrough of hk, but I refused to kill her
dude you have MAD down-slash skills. Thanks for the info. RIP Myla
Cloth: Ensuring a Warrior’s Survival
Myla: Necessary…? Sacrifices
Zote: Ignore him to Save Yourself
Myla sounds so pure😢
i mean, if you get the awakened dream nail, and the voidheart, you can banish the radience to the void, ending the infection, freeing all thos infected bugs, including myla
She was still being influenced by the infection, but hopefully it's at an early enough stage so that she survives
@@riskyworks if you do what the video says to do, and don't make her become hostile, it's an early enough stage
aww i was hoping there was a story way to save Myla ):
I like how the last segment is telling us how to NOT save Zote.
Easy way to save Myla: don't kill her EVER after she's infected, then get the dream no more ending or the pantheon ending, lore-wise she is now saved
People explaining how to save them buddies in the most convoluted way ever meanwhile i couldn't even figure out were to go after the first 2 or 3 bosses or so😂
5:04 or you could just.... you know... pogo off the only double jump check in the entire watchers tower
You need wings to get ismas without cdash, and you need either cdash or ismas to beat the game, unless you do a difficult skip to get to monomon which requires wings anyways.
@@jalepinojoe6285 oh i didnt know that lol, thanks for letting me know!
Love this vid! The editing is excellent and comedic 💜
I kinda wish we could save her in actuality rather than taking advantage of awkward game progression and skips to do so, but from a game design perspective it’s probably better this way since it adds more weight among other things to myla.
some will save cloth, but allowing her to die is what she would truly want. the honour to fight along side such an energetic soul while also being able to witness and be there for their final moments is a true friendship. rest in peace cloth...
5:58 - "Bury the knight with her broken nail"
Me: "Oh the Knight is girl, thanks for the knowledge"
Is talking about Radiance. That phrase talks especifically on how Radiance kills the Hollow Knight with his own nail. Meaning more literally, with his own mind.
1. Cloth. Both choices are good. You can give her honorable death and consume her dreams, leaving her in peace or let her live and find another adventure
2. Myla. Take radiance to the void, plague will dissapear. But if i remember correctly, these crystals driving miners insane, so she's doomed anyway
3. Zoth. Whatever you do he will die eventually lmao. He is really lucky to not die from literally any creature down below, his maximum is these little gray/white bugs in pathways. Im really surprised he wasn't killed instantly in deepnest
1:24 you need the shade cloak to fight the boss but you can use isma's tear to enter the garden.
2:51 lol. The carnival shocked face.
4:22 you don't need to beat the soul master to get the crystal heart. So long as you buy a lantern.
4:35 actually I think you can do a legit low % run since the dreamers don't require the crystal heart. Just isma's tear.
4:54 it doesn't look like 6 masks are required. Since you don't need to bounce twice on shade.
5:14 do you? You can use a simple key to beat the dung defender then leave and enter from the east side of the waterways.
8:40 for those wondering: failing to save him from DeepNest doesn't kill him.
9:04 lol having every follower.
Nope. Looks like entering from the east of water ways has acid and thus you need crystal heart to enter isma from either direction.
I did some testing in an attempt to have neither The Dreamers + THK nor Myla killed... And it's possible, but you have to compromise on getting her infected by defeating Soul Master, as you need to kill him for Pantheon unlocking and Desolate Dive/Descending Dark are required to go to Junkpit on the first place.
So yeah, you got to commit boss genocide for the sake of Embrancing the Void, and in order to obtain Voidheart you'll also need to complete White Palace... Without Crystal Heart (as it fully infects Myla, which may as well be permanent). Passing the last buzzsaw squeeze is such a hard ordeal that I had no choice but to slow the game's internal clock (using Cheat Engine). Otherwise still doable, but good luck doing it.
You also need to use the float glitch in order to pass the thorn hallway (more of a cerimonial "red carpet walk" if you have Crystal Heart) just before the throne, and do do that you need to access the Pale King's Workshop; That way you can use the Workshops's (rather non-Euclidian layout-oriented) left side exit to perform the Glitch (you need room transitions to do so).
Oh, did I mention that you also have to skip Dung Defender post-fight room usage in order to get Isma's Tear (as it requires Crystal Heart to speed through the thorn squeeze)? And Isma's Tear itself is absolutely necessary as it is the only way to get the Love Key and thus fight and defeat The Collector. This skip requires Monarch's Wing and is easier before you collect Shadow Cloak.
Thing is, the Shadow Cloak itself makes the Monarch Wings Crystal Dash skip easier (you can then get Sharp Shadow to extend your Dash distance), plus you need to fight Hornet Sentinel anyways and skipping Monarch Wing usage for reaching her it easy enough, so you may be tempted to get Shadow Cloak before Isma's Tear.
Don't do it.
I had to slow down the game time because skipping Isma's Tear Crystal Heart usage after collecting Shadow Cloak is excruciatingly hard.
I didn't know Myla could be saved!
If only there was a way to save the dreamers. I wanna give Hornet her mother back. I wanna have Monomon restore Quirrel's memories. Lurien, hm, might be someone Lemm could get along with.
I beat Traitor Lord earlier today and ngl nearly cried when she died
When attempting to banish the Grim troup then abandoned it at last moment. That music guy disperses. I couldn't find him anywhere.
Did you destroy the lantern?
@@TukGhost No, I went there and when I was about to destroy it. I went out of the room and went back in to see what happens. He disappeared and the grim troupe didn't go. He was murdered or something 😂
No one talks about it in the videos
im pretty sure brumm dissapears if you enter the room that grimm can be dream nailed in
@@littleprowl No, you can find at first in deep nest. He will ask you to help him to banish the Grim troup.
This just comes to show how much of "OUT OF THE WAY" we (players) go, for good characters XD
This video is so well made, I actually restarted Hollow knight again just to see I could get a different ending to save Myla
I assume myla will be fine once you kill the radiance, I dont think the infection can exist without it
You are denied access to your save when you do kill him, as the game has ended, and there is nothing more for the knight to do other than retire.
This video is an amazing experience. Thanks.
9:01 doctors: dreams have meanings my dreams:
Really helpful video ! I've found all i wanted to know 👍
You are welcome!
Just noticed when cloth hit the final hit on traitor lord its head cracked a bit, just a little detail I noticed
what if you let mylo to be infected, just simply don't kill her, defeat the final boss and return to her. Wouldn't she be alright? You have destroyed the source of the madness she must become ok
That's not possible because you won't be able to return after you beat the game, it will just take you to where you last saved and the infection will stay, but technically after getting the true ending , which is defeating the radiance , all the bugs would be free from the infection but you won't be able to come back and confirm
Cloth never died form me I defeated the traitor lord on my own
Nice!
That fight legit made me feel anger, THK took me 4 tries and 8 minutes, but Traitor Lord took me 10 attempts and 30 minutes, and I did that after beating THK 💀
I dream nailed ghost cloth so that he'll be with me forever.
Aw. I'm glad to know that you can save Mayla. Sad that it's so difficult tho. :\
The methods to save Myla has some interesting implications lore-wise; namely that Soul Master and the Crystal Heart are hindering the spread of Radiance. By being clever enough to utilize one's own death shade and exceptionally skilled with quick reflexes, The Knight can ensure these barriers remain in place, preventing not just Myla, but likely other bugs from being infected by Radiance. Meaning more lives saved overall in addition to Myla and her beautiful singing voice.
Also, the fact that we can't really "save" Zote, just open others eyes to his bs or let the braggard die, is very funny and appropriate since you can't "save" people from their own stupidity, just point it out to others or let them suffer the consequences.
I don't think defeating Soul Master and obtaining the Crystal Heart somehow causes the radiance's influence to spread faster, rather is an implication that in the time the Knight was doing those things, her prison weakened, similar to how obtaining the monarch wings will cause the Forgotten Crossroads to become hyper-infected even if none of the dreamers have been killed.
So to "save Myla" you have to do a complex (likely unintended) skip, avoiding an important key item, like your some kinda speedrunner?
Something tells me that doesn't really count as saving her
Complex?
@@GreatGoldenchip considering it was described as almost impossible? Yeah...
Like how subtitles calls zoth a prince soap
I love that you use the proper title for zote XD
embrace the void ending kills the radiance so she's good
Me who learned how to speed one adjust to save Myra
How to save your friends: Never talk to them.
so either you let him live OR YOU LEAVE HIM TO BE EATEN ALIVE
Myla is the proof that speedruners can save "humanity".
Didn't know you could say Myla, that's awesome
I just reached Cloth's death last night, and it almost made me cry :(
the elder... has the flower?... does that mean you have to?- *sigh* reloads hollowknight.
What if Mila never got infected in the first place? Instead she just got suspicious on the knight because he wanted to to steal all of her crystals after she finishes mining them, so myla put some contact lenses to look like the infected miners in order to scare off the knight, which sadly lead to her demise, this confirms that our little knight is in fact, not as kind hearted as team cherry wanted us to think it is.
How does that make him not kind hearted?
@@mrsmithers69 the knight tricked us into thinking that everything that he is doing for hallownest is from the kindness of his heart, in reality he wants to destroy and consume radiance for his selfish reasons, this allowed him to become an unstoppable force that will destroy the hollow knight universe, and the only ones to blame it's US, because we helped him achieve this great power
@@eduardpaduraru3090 how do you know they consumed the radiance for evil?
Seems like quite a stretch to be honest, if you look at her dialogue it seems pretty clear that she's slowly succumbing to the infection overtime
@@eduardpaduraru3090 the knight in the entirety of the game is quite literally an emotionless husk; or at least outwardly is. We as the player outside of lore have next to no clue how the knight thinks nor what its true motivations even are. That's what makes its character so intresting, anyone is allowed to interpret the knight however they want. However, acting like your own version is inherently correct is just misleading. It's certainly a plausible theory but as I stated we have no clue what its motivations are so your version is only a theory/interpretation
Thank you generally ☺
the ending is full of sound, the laughter, zote voice....
incroyable bien joué !
Rip to these legends
I completely walked past Zote ‘cause i didnt see him, just the monster and i thought i wasnt ready to fight it. Glad to know im not missing anything lol
I got an add as he said ‘you got to die here’ and then as soon as the spike hit him the add came
I like how you just made fun of Zote
What kind of program you use for the voice
Shame that Myla doesn't say or do anything else after saving her from her fate.
Would've been a nice easter egg if she showed up in Dirtmouth at the end, like Cloth.
Except Zote.
He's a douche.
That feeling when Myla is ur oc's name... TwT"
I miss Myla...
I really wish we gont more scenes for the dream no more ending that showed the infected bugs being cured, huge missed opportunity :(
Eas this channel specifically dedicated to save this one bug we see on the occasion.
My dude as a asmr voice
Yay I'm your 100 th subscriber
Thank I appreciate that :)
You r amazing!
Thanks! :)
“You need the shade cloak to access the Queen’s gardens” What have I done!? I’ve broken the space time continuum!
I had no idea you could save cloth. This is amazing news
We feel sad when they die...
Meanwhile the knight: *stares like nothing happened*
Cloth was like: Should've gone for the head
It's disappointing how Myla gets infected when you get the crystal heart and defeat the soulmaster.😢
i decided to plat hollow knight in a new save file and the first thing i wanted to make sure i do is not save zote so i can sit on the bench in peace
I fondly remember playing catch the Zote in the coliseum
after bitting hollow knight the game start at the bench before ending and myla is steel infected.💔 how can we see her singing again?
How unlucky :| Maybe you defeated the Soul Master.
@@TukGhost maybe just a lie for that part.
There's only 1 true ending, save Myla, kill Zote.
So Cloth and Zote were obviously intended to be able to be saved while Myla is clearly a loophole. Meaning canonoically she will always die
I actually got an ad for Hollow Knight when I first saw this vid.