Sola Scriptura Heresy
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As a Protestant inquirer into Orthodoxy-I will be watching this several times-thank you for this valuable perspective.
Check out Gavin Ortlund and Joshua Schooping for a balanced inquiry.
They are delusional and the one of them as I understood is in prelest and an apostate
@@UnboxingChristianityI saw a post today stating that Gavin Ortlund’s ‘debates’ with OrthodoxChristians made them convert from Protestant to Orthodox. So, maybe you’re wishing for that. Good.
As for Joshua - he is known as Joshua the Apostate for a reason. May the Lord enlighten his darkness, and have mercy on us all.
Don't trust this. Let me give you an example of why these zealots don't want you reading God's word. Research what I say for yourself. Search orthodox Jesus and look at the pictures. Like catholicism, they depict a fair skinned, long hair Jesus.
Corinthians 11:14
Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,
but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
So ask yourself, would the Son of God Christ Jesus have long hair?
Why don't they depict him as described in revelation, with hair like wool, skin like bronze in a furnace, and eyes like fire?
Because they are deceivers who want you to accept the false Jesus who looks like their effeminate depiction, is my guess.
Another Bible verse says there is one mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus.
You've come to a good site.
An excellent article, thank you for sharing and the reading. An honest application of Sola Scriptura, while petitioning our Lord with prayer and fasting, is what freed me from Protestantism and lead me to His Holy Orthodox Church, by the grace of the Holy Spirit. Glory to God for all things.
So many wonderful stories of the roads we have taken to return to the True Faith.☦💝📿💝☦
@@lindaphillips4646 Amen.
May the Protestants and Roman Catholics come home to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Blessed lent all. Glory to God.
Someone who knows Orthodox Church real name - finally !!!
God bless you.
I did. 2 years in Orthodoxy. Best decision I ever made in my Christian journey. Mainline protestant churches are dwindling and Francis is hurting the church of Rome through his heretical teachings. May America come to the light of Orthodoxy. Christ is Risen!
@@annabanana2623 Glory to God! Truly he is risen!
As a protestant I acknowledge the saints and I love reading the church fathers
Im a traditional protestant btw
I can't help but ask, did the Fathers believe in Sola Scriptura? You and I both know the answer. Best wishes!
Come home brother.
Glory to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! Thx for your excellent content. 🙏🏼 ☦️
Hey, very interesting. I too am in the process of making a similar video on this topic. I was raised Baptist, and I always senced discontinuity. My background as a 'data guy' has shown me that context matters, and to validate my 'mental schema' with those of the same time and place. Upon reading the church fathers, it has quickly shown me that protestantism is a heresy.
Thinking of the rebuke of Peter by Jesus, Peter was well intentioned, yet was diabolical in position.
Over time data does not get better, cleaner, or earn more utility. So, this implies St Irenaus has a better understanding than Martin Luther.
I will encourage you to go ahead and create your own video regardless of this one. We need more of these... One aspect this video does not address is progressive veering off of the original Protestantism by the subsequently created denominations, culminating in cults like LDS, JW and SDA in the 19th century. Just an idea... God bless.!
Of course, Martin Luther was wrong by a lot unfortunately
one of the best videos i’ve seen. I’m reformed inquiry into Eastern Orthodoxy. Thank you Lord for grace and mercy. 🙏🏾
Glad it was helpful!
Come home brother❤
This video is worth sharing
I was critical of this channel for various reasons but this is great work. Good job and God Bless.
Thank you, very well put together. ☦
I was just speaking about this with a young atheist student at college (I am also a student, but several years older). He essentially agreed with Sola scriptural, but I said-- just as I do with protestants-- where does the scripture come from? It comes from the ancient church, so unless and until you study the ancient church and apostolic succession, you can't legitimize Sola scripture. No protestant has to date refuted me, nor did this atheist today.
No.. the bible is God breathed. As the scripture says.
@@JacobSerwinski-fx3on You are wrong. The Biblical canon was compiled at the First Ecumenical Council by the Holy Fathers of the Apostolic Church. The Uncreated Word of God in John 1:1 refers to Christ.
@@JacobSerwinski-fx3on awesome, and who compiled the scriptures that tells you it is God-breathed? How many other texts are out there that were not included in the canon? Why do you trust the scripture you read today, but not the foundation of the church that sanctified that?
@@genevieverose1234 do you even understand that Jesus is the Word incarnate?? In the beginning was the Word....Not the early church and apostolic succession. Unfortunately believing what you do means your under spiritual seduction.
@@JacobSerwinski-fx3on I just think it would be good to know where you draw the line on what constitutes scripture. There are many gnostic texts that could have been included that do not state Jesus is the Word-- actually, only the books of John state that don't they? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that is the sole reason for sola scriptura, I recommend you read the gnostic texts and apocrypha, then you can be assured of what else is read. I think it is wise to read as much historical background and ancient texts as possible.
PS: Apart from our theological differences, as a fellow designer and typographer, I really like the way that you are presenting your videos. Beautifully done. Keep up that side of your efforts.
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Thank you so much for this Video, a actual answer to my prayers. Im in a traditionally prot family but I found & believe in Orthodoxy but am in a difficult situation. Pray for me & my family please.
Glad it was helpful!
God, bless. I like you 'title/handle', whatever it is called. Speaking of a ladder, in a few Sundays the Orthodox Church will celebrate the memory of St. John Climacus and his book, The Ladder of Divine Ascent. (Which you may know about, but i thought i would mention that.) ☦☦
Well done. (May i suggest something? Could the volume of the background chants on your videos be turned down some? Thank you.) ☦💝📿💝☦
Will do
Thank you. Blessed Sunday of St. Gregory Palamas.
I am interested in reading St. John Chrysostom's commentary on New Testament scripture but I muchly prefer to read them in Modern English. Is this possible? Thank you.
Try Catena app which has his commentaries included and this link: www.accordancebible.com/product/chrysostom-commentary-on-new-testament-books/
or this: www.scrollpublishing.com/store/product2917.html
or this: www.amazon.com/Commentary-Gospel-John-Saint-Chrysostom/dp/1716882923
We should trust in the Lord and not in man. If the man does not live by His word then that is a test in itself.
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scriptures are easy to understand? then why is it in the story of Jonah and whatever swallowed him, there are hundreds of possible different of sea creatures that could have possibly swallowed Jonah, one of which is not a non living species of any type of sea living organism.
It is God who reserves His Word throughout all generations: because mankind is fallible and so therefore mans traditions eventually are also, the one thing that remains infallible is the Holy Scripture.
But the Word is the Logos incarnated in the flesh, which is Jesus Christ. The Word is a Person not an idea
@@holyresurrectionofchrist
It's incredible how anyone claiming to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ can have such a disregard for the written Word of God.
Can it be that tradition and the Bible contradict?
I think so.
Heb 4:12: "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
Ps 138:2: "I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name."
Ps 119:105: "(NUN.) Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path."
2Pet 1:21: "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
John 17:17: "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
But the Word of God is both the Tradition and the Scripture. If there is not Tradition there can be no Scripture. Scripture is the written tradition. Just as there are false traditions so too there are false Scriptures which the Church rejected like the apocryphal Gospels and other heretical teachings, both oral and written.
@@holyresurrectionofchrist
The word is a person not an idea; the word is both tradition and scripture.
Be consistent!
The Word of God is exactly what it is,
THE WORD OF GOD.
Does your tradition contradict God's Word?
I think so.
Ps 119:140: "Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it."
Prov 30:5-6: "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
John 8:48-59: ...Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.@@KingJamesOnlyPlease
Imagine thinking the Word of God is a heresy
The word of God (divine revelation) is both oral and written. Take away one of these, and you no longer have divine revelation
@@user-fg1lh4wq9p incorrect, the Holy Spirit is the component always neglected in that strawman.
The Holy Spirit is abundantly present in the Church of Christ which is Hid mystical body
That's not what the video is arguing
@holyresurrectionofchrist we both know that's a nonanswer to the obvious strawman. There's literally no Sola/o Scriptura-ist that will deny the necessity of the Holy Spirit, but they are always attacked as if they do because the people claiming heresy substitute the Holy Spirit with church "special knowledge and understanding." Essentially, that is a heresy that came out of fighting the Gnostic heresy.
Interesting presentation. The presenter has raised some valid points about Protestantism’s use of Sola Scriptura, but fails to realise that Orthodoxy has its own flaws and selective observations of Church History prior to Orthodoxy winning the day because of the statehood of the Roman Emperors.
All tradition ultimately stems from the interpretation of Scripture and there were many traditions during the first 2+ centuries that were ultimately rejected as heresy as Orthodox believers interpreted the Scriptures and came to a consensus based on the social influences of their day.
The Orthodox made use of a form of Sola Scriptura to analytically draw out their conclusions then; just as the Protestants and Reformers do now.
All both interpret some things correctly and some things that are wedded to their contemporary social influences, believing that they were then and are now, guided by the Holy Spirit.
The funny thing is that everybody in Christendom thinks that everybody else is arrogant and wrong, and everybody arrogantly assumes their own correctness.
Nothing has changed since the beginning. The fighting between Origen and Epiphanius of Salamis has been a mark of Christianity throughout the ages.
Christ’s Church resides within all branches of Institutional Christianity.
That’s what the branch theory, which was invented by the Protestants claims. But the Orthodox Church rejects it as a heresy because it supposes that none of the Christian dominations have the full Truth but parts of it as well as some Truth in all of them. This is very dangerous because supposes that Christ did not established One Church but many which contradicts His own words.
That’s ecumenism par-exelance and is a wrong (heretical) understanding
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Christ did establish only One church, but His Kingdom is not of this world. He is the King and High Priest of a Spiritual Church that consists of True Believers. It is upon the Rock (or foundation) of Peter’s Confession that Jesus Christ is Lord that He will build His Church.
Unfortunately, not all believers in all Branches and Denominations are True Believers. There are many false disciples and false teachers with a deceiving heart that reside in all churches and only God knows who they are.
There is the Church Militant which He Himself promised will be with until the end and the one Triumphant which is in eternity. It is the same One Church, visible and invisible.
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Matthew 28:19-20@@djpodesta
By the way, that Church is the Orthodox One Holy Catholic and Apostolic@@djpodesta
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Yes, we are to go out and make disciples, but everybody is doing that; not just your branch or denomination.
It is upon the rock; or foundation of Peter’s Confession that He will build His Church.
Sola Scriptura= the Scriptures alone are the inspired-inerrant Word of God. Therefore they are the ultimate authority for the Christian. There is no equal nor greater authority than the Scriptures.
The rejection of Sola Scriptura has led to all kinds of false teachings in the RC and EO churches.
But which is older? The Church or the Scriptures?
@@holyresurrectionofchrist The OT Scriptures are older as are the teachings of Christ. The church in the NT is never identified as the RCC.
@@Justas399 the OT also relied on the Holy Tradition. Without the Holy oral tradition there can be no scripture
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Where do the Jews mention this "Holy tradition"?
What were the characteristics of this "Holy Tradition"? Where are they mentioned?
@@Justas399 many places. How do you think Moses wrote the Torah so many years after the creation of the world and Abraham?
The problem is the EO church is not unchanging. It has morphed in several key doctrines. This morphing was going on even when st Paul was still around. I recommend watching Gavin Ortlund or Joshua Schooping on Orthodoxy or debating EOs on these themes.
I watched them. They have really weak points even from my nonescholar perspective. Moreover their arguments don't stand scrutiny and have been refued many times by Perry Robinson, Seraphim Hamilton, fr.Stephen de Young and others.
Gayvin Ortlund and Joshua the Apostate are wrong in their assertions that the Orthodox Church's teaching on key doctrines has changed. It has remained the same. Some issues were just clarified, or there was a development of doctrine which did not contradict previous doctrines.
Joshua Schooping is unfortunately a delusional person
Calvinism is blasphemous, and full of many deluded antichrists that worship a false monster god.
“God does not merely permit sin, He ordains it.” - John Calvin
^ it is for this very reason that Dositheus of Jerusalem said “Calvinism is the worst heresy the protestants have yet contrived.”
Joshua Schooping is a Calvinist.
Both are wrong. The reason why people's theologies are different is because we all have something we lack to co-exist with a holy God in eternity. What we lack is different for each individual. God may allow error during a season to reach a higher understanding. Or perhaps we need to be humbled. Following verse corresponds to my claim.
”But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie-just as it has taught you, abide in him.“
1 John 2:27 ESV
There's only three different disciples of Jesus. Holy Spirit filled, those who aren't and those who will be in due time. It has nothing to do with man-made sects of Christianity, like Roman Catholicism and Protestantism.
The Orthodox Church is the only One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church
But it has everything w man made sects of Protestantism ( Luther Calvin and all goof balls )… 40000 of them
The rotten fruits of Protestantism are showing loud & clear
You are very judgmental against other Believers, Brothers and Sisters of the Lord Christ 👎
There is a Rabbi with Name Jonathan Cahn ; who is a descendant from Levite Aaron; he explains historical mysteries from ancient AT till today in context
He was anointed by Christ himself ; he founded and leads Hope of the World Ministries ✝️
He said : God will not ask you in what kind of denomination you served him ; he will examine you about your heart
You would even call him a heretic
You shall be judged by how you judges your brothers and sisters ✝️
You heard it for yourself, the Orthodox believe the Scriptures are insufficient. That’s heresy!
You are perverting what you hear, dear friend.
Pure nonsense. His arguments remind me of ones my brother would use. I see Red Herrings, such as, saying Christ did not follow the tradition of Sola Scriptura, when we all know the Bible was only half written by the time Christ was on earth, so how would Christ refer to a book, in its totality, that did not exist when he was walking the earth. When people make blatantly ridicules assertions like this, RUN!!
Like a typical Protestant, you’re not making a lick of sense. With all due respect, it is obvious all this went right over your Calvinist head. You people are just swollen pink with pride. And the fact that you all argue amongst each other is proof enough of your Protestant heresy.
You’re not making a lick of sense. With all due respect, it is obvious all this went right over your Calvinist head. Can you specify which “red herring” you’re even talking about? Seriously. The fact that all you Prots argue amongst each other and are split into literally thousands upon thousands of different sects is proof enough of your heretical status.
Who do you think even officially made the Epistles part of the biblical canon? Do you think it just fell out of the sky one day?
The Cosmos always existed. It had no creator.
All stories about a creator are man made.
The Cosmos always existed. It had no creator.
All stories about a everlasting cosmos are man made.
If you say so …
At least that is more logical than believing something came from nothing. But it is certain, through scientific and religious means, that there was a time when the universe does not exist.
I dont listen to catholics who worship idols, images, worship mary and other humans (saints), believe one can pray for the dead, give alms to remove sin, very twisted! Ik ik “no we just venerate mary and saints!”… by praying to them and kissing images of them. Literally worship by a different name lol
Before Luther, whose traditions you hold, before the Papists, there was and still is the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church - that is, the Orthodox Church.
You probably have never even heard, never mind be able to argue against the Orthodox Church.
In a Protestant funeral, the protestants do everything the orthodox do…. Literally everything….
And then call us idolaters…. Women kiss their hand and then touch the pictures, they weep on their knees bent over the casket, they kiss the face of their loved one’s lifeless body, they pray over their bodies, they pray in front of their pictures, they decorate the pictures with flowers, they decorate the body with flowers and garlands etc.
@@user-ep5id4zj8s crying for your loved one and praying for comfort in distress is not the same as praying FOR the saints to intervene and the literal act of worship you bestow upon them. Missing your dead relative isnt worship. This was a very low IQ comparison you made
Every protestant his own pope? What pope?
Because every Protestant interprets the Scripture as they want. That's why there are more then 40.000 different denominations which is absurd
@holyresurrectionofchrist the number is closer to 6 gorillalian different sects. This talking point is old and tired. Everyone is free to interpret the scriptures how they want, but they can be wrong, obviously. It's not our job to make anyone believe, it is our job to deliver the truth. People aren't as stupid as you think.
@@holyresurrectionofchrist the Pope doesnt interpret the Scriptures, that's not his function
@@user-lh5li8ll7i Heresy of Papal Infallibility bud, the pope of Rome can name and claim whatever he wants because of this.
You have said it, the Church is the Body of Christ, with Christ as the head. Now, who is part of the body of Christ?
The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (the Orthodox Church)
@@holyresurrectionofchrist 🤣
@holyresurrectionofchrist what does The Bible say about membership? Don't quote vain traditions of men.
You are conflating doctrine and the gospel.
Interpretation of gospel is not included in the gospel
How do you know to interpret the gospel correctly ?
Nice strawman less than 1 minute in.