3 hour-long siege timestamps: 5:51:29 - Pre-battle discussion 5:53:50 - Start of battle 9:01:36 - End of battle and post-battle discussion (**Updated the timestamps as the whole 10 hours finished rendering**)
I hate that stupid fat ass so much. He had a banner of swiftness in my campaign and it made him a true night mare. He caught one of my captains on horse back and stuck to him like glue, routing him in a few hits
I do like to sell back mountains to dwarves, and snow back to kislev. it's mostly to keep a nice buffer between me and the bullshit on the other side of them.
For the super chat asking how to deal with armies force marching away from you and sacking you settlements: if you can reach them but not enough to attack again after the initial retreat, give your army the attack order but right before you actually engage hit backspace to stop your army in their zone of control. On their turn they will be sruck in your zone of control( unless they have underway stance) they will be forced to attack you but will usually just go into encamp status. I learned this from another video and its been a game changer
Thank goodness. I have been having trouble with my Empire campaign (just started with WH3). Looking forward to seeing how Legend deals with all the changes. 5:44:00 glad to see that I'm not crazy. The AI factions eat up the Elector Counts by turn 20 ~ 30, even if you do farm them free armies from time to time.
Elspeth and Gelt are easier. Thorgrim and Franz are heavily surrounded by hostiles despite being the 'base' factions for their race. Makes a challening introduction for newcomers.
I would love star wars tw if you have different eras. I want to play as the republic and use clones. Options to change things like not change into the empire, or be the empire but still use clones.
This was great! Love to see a challenging campaign with thrilling fights! So much more fun than just steamrolling. Thanks for the fun hours watching you Legend. Looking forward to the continuation of this one!
I feel like mid to late game I spend more time chasing armies around then actually fighting. I wish the AI would spend time to build competent armies instead of pumping out little shit armies to try to snipe one of my settlements. Have to build walls in damn near every settlement. Expensive and frustrating.
Its still a gigantic scam that Reiksguard and all the other cav that say "anti infantry" do not actually have any bonus vs infantry, except for the newest knights of the black rose
There is/was an easy trick to defeat Khazrak early on that doesn't require a lot of skill. It will however lead to Todbringer getting wiped out in most cases. I also don't know if it still works after the recent patches since i only did it shortly after the DLC dropped, but it did work in multiple attempts. You can simply wait for Khazrak to take out Middenland until they have only one settlement left. Use the waiting time to recruit units around Eilhart. For whatever reason he will then attack Altdorf which can simply be autoresolved. He also doesn't recruit another army for a long time so you can just slowly reach Middenheim and finish him off.
love your channel. you have taught me alot about the total war games and even when im not trying to learn the best tactics. i still enjoy to watch your game play and commentary.
Having started watching this live near the end and then coming back to watch the beginning made the comments Legend made in the first few minutes pretty funny.
Me watching the vod and then trying to comment like it was live only to remember I am eating pizza at 3am watching this lmao. Hope to catch the next one but love your content!
Lizardmen desperately need a rework for sure. The economy is so bad, do lizards reslly need to be paid so much gold? And buy god, for a faction based on strong melee infantry, temple guard are SO bad compared to every other elite Halberd unit. Ogres maybe just need their contracts changed to be more like Oxyotls visions of the old ones IMO. And more units.
40k would low key be sick if they added a 3rd layer of campaign. It would be a lot to pay attention to but it would be cool. Normal world map like we’re used to. Then add one more zoom out into a space arena
Bruh 10 hrs stream that is something then! :D Going to catch up just now Also regarding leaks I'm just indifferent to SW, whatever not super excited for it but we will see. I really want to see RENAISSANCE, WW1/WW2 made by CA or MEDIEVAL era again with three different periods EARLY, HIGH, LATE campaign.
that's a brutal one even ithiclaw is Moving on up to the East side , finally got a piece of the pie .Fish don't fry in the kitchen Beans don't burn on the grill ,Took a whole lotta trying Just to get up that hill
Hey Legend. Just got into Total War because of you and I have been having a heap of fun. Might you consider doing an updated DLC Tier list for newbies. With the Steam sale it is the best time to get into the series. Thanks for making these videos; I never would have tried what has very quickly eaten up all my free time without you ^_^
Chaos Dwarfs is a lot of fun. There are loads of FLC for Warhammer 2 and 1. I personally really enjoy Oxyotl and Orion. beastmen can be a lot of fun. Dwarfs are pretty cool now with the most recent DLC patches. It all depends on your cup of tea I suppose.
@@walkrvc Got base game WH3 a month ago, used some questionable programming to gain access to the DLCs (Epic Games only), and tried Dawi Zharr as my first game, specifically Drazoath, based on Legend saying he was the most powerful LL. It was a tough start, especially with the raw materials, but once you get going, you're unstoppable. The only threat to me was the Tomb King end game crisis led by Settra
Broke: Eww, Archaon so Scary... Broke 2.0: I don't like Festus putting chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' Hochland disloyal! Broke 2.5: BLODY CHANGELING!!! GET THE HECK OUT OF MY STIRLAAAND! Woke: Enough is ENOUGH! I have had it with these motherELECTORCOUNTS vamps in this motherELECTORCOUNTS Sylvania! Woke 2.0: THE FREAKING DRYADS ARE IN THE TREEES! Woke 2.5: OGRES, MY LORD! x100 Bespoke: Welcome to Bretonnia, Gentlemen!
I also played a legendary campaign as Franz and holy hell it was difficult as hell, using T1 units and over extending to bretonia was also my mistake, i had to hold a couple of turns and get some T2 units, it was pretty much swift after that then i took vlad with outriders then gg
Pretty sure getting Marienberg doesn't show Albion anymore... The gobos (early) and Wulfrik (later) might be an issue for Aarnau, but you don't instantly get Belakor and Vanaheim on your butt.
I think the order of threats that i usually deal with in my Franz campaign is 1. Cessesionists 2. Khazrak 3. Kimmler 4. Festus. 5. Vlad 6. Grom/belakor 7 wurzag/wulfrik/scrag
There will not be a total war 4 engine in the way you mean it.They might to a huge rework, maybe a full restructuring of the current engine, but there's no reason to start from scratch. Coding is changed. Code management is changed. No matter how messed up things are currently, this engine still contains a lot of function that thet would be stupid to throw away. But if they are thinking about ww1, 40k and star wars, one should think they are up to something regarding the battle engine, because current stuff is not up to simulate that kind of battles
You should do a patron with 20 turn guides behind a pay wall. I know you said they don't do well, but I'm sure you'd have a large fan base like myself willing to pay
Despite all the changes to the empire the counts are still absolutely USELESS. I wiped out Khazarak and gave the black pit and all or middheim back to borris. The black pit had ONE settlement left on the coast. I left to go deal with Kimmler figuring Boris could finish them off. Nope, next thing i know goblins had retaken the black pit and were marching on middemheim. USELESS
I don't understand the hatred people get for settings for total war. Don't like it don't play it. If the games not good fair enough. But just becaise its star wars or warhammer or 3 kingdoms people need to get over themselves. SO LONG AS IT'S GOOD!!!
This guy is kind of a dick to the people who donate/ask questions lmao. Not even the trolls, just the people that are like "New patch has this feature, so cool!" Legend: I DONT FUCKING CARE 👀... alright...
@@LegendofTotalWar 45:07 You may not have said "fucking care" but basically the same thing. Dude just wanted to inform you about some porthole changes lol. After rewatching it, maybe you were still in a funk about people wanting you to confederate Marienburg, but still. Just as a note, I am not basing my comment about you being a dick to people only on this interaction. It just feels like 'Thx for the donation, idiot' sometimes.
@@ryanhorton3248 Ok I can kind of see where you're coming from. Here's why this happens from my perspective: I've got thousands of people watching for the actual gameplay. I don't focus on graphics at all. When i get distracted on stuff that's not about the gameplay people leave the stream. So I appreciate a $2 superchat for sure but I'd rather not get the super chat if it means being less entertaining for the people that are watching for the actual battle. That will sometimes mean I am short with people. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I just could not focus any time or attention on something so trivial. I never meant to be thanks for the donation, idiot. It's more like thanks for the donation but I'd rather not have received it. I do tell people constantly to try to keep the conversation on the gameplay and that I reserve to right to not answer any questions that aren't related to that. That will sometimes mean people will superchat and be disappointed with my response.
3 hour-long siege timestamps:
5:51:29 - Pre-battle discussion
5:53:50 - Start of battle
9:01:36 - End of battle and post-battle discussion
(**Updated the timestamps as the whole 10 hours finished rendering**)
GOAT
Goat fixed the timestamps
You are a gentleman and a scholar
that fucking fight against grom was like a horror movie, you never know when he was going to pop up.
Sad he bugged out on the mortars. GET IN MY PAUNCH
Welcome to Bretonnia, Gentlemen!
I hate that stupid fat ass so much. He had a banner of swiftness in my campaign and it made him a true night mare. He caught one of my captains on horse back and stuck to him like glue, routing him in a few hits
I do like to sell back mountains to dwarves, and snow back to kislev. it's mostly to keep a nice buffer between me and the bullshit on the other side of them.
What pisses me off is when they let and army of gobbos trespass through their land without declaring on them to attack one of your settlements
3:05:20 Morter used like a canon.
insane ahahah
For the super chat asking how to deal with armies force marching away from you and sacking you settlements: if you can reach them but not enough to attack again after the initial retreat, give your army the attack order but right before you actually engage hit backspace to stop your army in their zone of control. On their turn they will be sruck in your zone of control( unless they have underway stance) they will be forced to attack you but will usually just go into encamp status. I learned this from another video and its been a game changer
wait this is actually life changing holy shit thanks so much
@@benreeves206 you are welcome! 👍
Thank goodness. I have been having trouble with my Empire campaign (just started with WH3). Looking forward to seeing how Legend deals with all the changes.
5:44:00 glad to see that I'm not crazy. The AI factions eat up the Elector Counts by turn 20 ~ 30, even if you do farm them free armies from time to time.
Elspeth and Gelt are easier. Thorgrim and Franz are heavily surrounded by hostiles despite being the 'base' factions for their race. Makes a challening introduction for newcomers.
and Karl Franz is labeled as good for new players first campaigns by the game.
39:28 Legend talks about the Star Wars Total War rumors
chad! thanks
Star wars TW confirmed.
I would love star wars tw if you have different eras. I want to play as the republic and use clones. Options to change things like not change into the empire, or be the empire but still use clones.
This was great! Love to see a challenging campaign with thrilling fights! So much more fun than just steamrolling. Thanks for the fun hours watching you Legend. Looking forward to the continuation of this one!
I feel like mid to late game I spend more time chasing armies around then actually fighting. I wish the AI would spend time to build competent armies instead of pumping out little shit armies to try to snipe one of my settlements. Have to build walls in damn near every settlement. Expensive and frustrating.
Holy BALLS that was a long siege. Great work on staying awake and attentive as long as you did.
I am down for a beastman stream, I know its not likely, but voicing support
Its still a gigantic scam that Reiksguard and all the other cav that say "anti infantry" do not actually have any bonus vs infantry, except for the newest knights of the black rose
There is/was an easy trick to defeat Khazrak early on that doesn't require a lot of skill. It will however lead to Todbringer getting wiped out in most cases. I also don't know if it still works after the recent patches since i only did it shortly after the DLC dropped, but it did work in multiple attempts.
You can simply wait for Khazrak to take out Middenland until they have only one settlement left. Use the waiting time to recruit units around Eilhart. For whatever reason he will then attack Altdorf which can simply be autoresolved. He also doesn't recruit another army for a long time so you can just slowly reach Middenheim and finish him off.
In my latest campaign Khazrak wiped out Toddy in 5 turns xD
love your channel. you have taught me alot about the total war games and even when im not trying to learn the best tactics. i still enjoy to watch your game play and commentary.
Missed the first 10 turns 😢
Damn, that's like 5 hours worth of stream lol
Having started watching this live near the end and then coming back to watch the beginning made the comments Legend made in the first few minutes pretty funny.
Me watching the vod and then trying to comment like it was live only to remember I am eating pizza at 3am watching this lmao. Hope to catch the next one but love your content!
I love when you click on franz mid battle and he angrily shouts WHAT!? like you just interupted him while hes trying to do calculus. Great voice actor
Lizardmen desperately need a rework for sure. The economy is so bad, do lizards reslly need to be paid so much gold? And buy god, for a faction based on strong melee infantry, temple guard are SO bad compared to every other elite Halberd unit.
Ogres maybe just need their contracts changed to be more like Oxyotls visions of the old ones IMO. And more units.
The supply lines reduction between games was a massive buff to their economy. Cult of Sotek is extremely strong thanks to that and their Lotl-Botls.
40k would low key be sick if they added a 3rd layer of campaign. It would be a lot to pay attention to but it would be cool. Normal world map like we’re used to. Then add one more zoom out into a space arena
I am preparing some popcorn for this, 10 hours this is going to be epic!
Thanks for the stream! Edit: Watching the vod and asking myself "Why did nobody tell him to get the Legbiter?!"
Bruh 10 hrs stream that is something then! :D Going to catch up just now
Also regarding leaks I'm just indifferent to SW, whatever not super excited for it but we will see. I really want to see RENAISSANCE, WW1/WW2 made by CA or MEDIEVAL era again with three different periods EARLY, HIGH, LATE campaign.
What a siege! Bloody well done dude!
I adored this siege. One of the longest I have watched, but worth it.
epic battles, thanks for the stream!
that's a brutal one even ithiclaw is Moving on up to the East side , finally got a piece of the pie .Fish don't fry in the kitchen
Beans don't burn on the grill ,Took a whole lotta trying Just to get up that hill
What are you even saying?
@@mr.joesterr5359 no one knows what it means... that's why it's proactive lul
@@SomeIdiotLUL It gets the people running
This is one of the greatest things I've ever read
3 hours and 23 min long battle - you are indeed a legend
Hey Legend. Just got into Total War because of you and I have been having a heap of fun. Might you consider doing an updated DLC Tier list for newbies. With the Steam sale it is the best time to get into the series. Thanks for making these videos; I never would have tried what has very quickly eaten up all my free time without you ^_^
Chaos Dwarfs is a lot of fun. There are loads of FLC for Warhammer 2 and 1. I personally really enjoy Oxyotl and Orion. beastmen can be a lot of fun. Dwarfs are pretty cool now with the most recent DLC patches. It all depends on your cup of tea I suppose.
@@walkrvc
Got base game WH3 a month ago, used some questionable programming to gain access to the DLCs (Epic Games only), and tried Dawi Zharr as my first game, specifically Drazoath, based on Legend saying he was the most powerful LL. It was a tough start, especially with the raw materials, but once you get going, you're unstoppable. The only threat to me was the Tomb King end game crisis led by Settra
Legend's next Compaign is going to be Grom 😂
During the siege, once towers are destroyed, why not bring mortars closer to walls to have better aim at units?
The mortar he was watching ended up being the one grom got stuck on lol
Broke: Eww, Archaon so Scary...
Broke 2.0: I don't like Festus putting chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' Hochland disloyal!
Broke 2.5: BLODY CHANGELING!!! GET THE HECK OUT OF MY STIRLAAAND!
Woke: Enough is ENOUGH! I have had it with these motherELECTORCOUNTS vamps in this motherELECTORCOUNTS Sylvania!
Woke 2.0: THE FREAKING DRYADS ARE IN THE TREEES!
Woke 2.5: OGRES, MY LORD! x100
Bespoke: Welcome to Bretonnia, Gentlemen!
is the start of the campaign missing for other people?
Yeah, it’s messed up for me too. Don’t really know why. I restarted the app but it’s still messed up.
When a stream is too long, RUclips deletes the start. Not sure if the start will upload eventually.
@@asfsqfiaheai4545 that’s really dumb tbh.
@gravehearts8799 I came back an hour later and it was resolved and fully available.
All up now
Wow! This comment section is a real find! The detail, the passion, the depth of knowledge shared here is thrilling and unique and round.
10hr livestream god damn lmao
Welp. Misses 2.5 hrs though
I also played a legendary campaign as Franz and holy hell it was difficult as hell, using T1 units and over extending to bretonia was also my mistake, i had to hold a couple of turns and get some T2 units, it was pretty much swift after that then i took vlad with outriders then gg
Does anyone know if legend talks about karanak in this stream?
I do but there's not really much to talk about. I don't know the lore behind it and I don't think it'll have a huge impact on Khorne
Pretty sure getting Marienberg doesn't show Albion anymore...
The gobos (early) and Wulfrik (later) might be an issue for Aarnau, but you don't instantly get Belakor and Vanaheim on your butt.
I think the order of threats that i usually deal with in my Franz campaign is 1. Cessesionists 2. Khazrak 3. Kimmler 4. Festus. 5. Vlad 6. Grom/belakor 7 wurzag/wulfrik/scrag
There will not be a total war 4 engine in the way you mean it.They might to a huge rework, maybe a full restructuring of the current engine, but there's no reason to start from scratch.
Coding is changed. Code management is changed. No matter how messed up things are currently, this engine still contains a lot of function that thet would be stupid to throw away.
But if they are thinking about ww1, 40k and star wars, one should think they are up to something regarding the battle engine, because current stuff is not up to simulate that kind of battles
The semi-complete live is on twitch for those who dont know, but it is still one minute short, unbearable!
i don't know how you do it man , i would rage quit 30 min into siege battle
Used to hate sieges, still kinda do and will always take a good auto resolves if I can. The trick is just being patient as legend showed
People complaining about the saving causing lags? Bunch of babies
You should do a patron with 20 turn guides behind a pay wall. I know you said they don't do well, but I'm sure you'd have a large fan base like myself willing to pay
Despite all the changes to the empire the counts are still absolutely USELESS. I wiped out Khazarak and gave the black pit and all or middheim back to borris. The black pit had ONE settlement left on the coast. I left to go deal with Kimmler figuring Boris could finish them off. Nope, next thing i know goblins had retaken the black pit and were marching on middemheim. USELESS
I see a couple hours in Legend's wifes arm must have been getting tired from cranking his internet over to keep it going....
CA, please make undead sally out to fight attackers during a siege.
I don't understand the hatred people get for settings for total war. Don't like it don't play it.
If the games not good fair enough. But just becaise its star wars or warhammer or 3 kingdoms people need to get over themselves.
SO LONG AS IT'S GOOD!!!
Given that legend is balding and growing a beard the obvious move is to TAKE THE DWARF PILL
People who suggest things like declaring war on Marienburg, taking the city, the selling it back, play on easy difficulty.
Why the hell would someone think it’s a good idea to rebel against Carl franz.
ok heres the challenge for your next reichland campaign. turn 3 marienburg, I KNOW ITS A POOR DECISION, THATS THE CHALLENGE
Think turning Ironman off is great. The stutter has always sucked.
During the siege, when you ran out of ammunition, you could just retreat, and then attack again with full ammunition, winds of magic and abilities.
I will NEVER play Karl's company on legendary difficulty!
Ogres mi lord
God the AI on that long siege was awful. Literally could have just rushed all its units out at once and won the battle.
Oh... that load was low.. very pathetic. I expected him to recover in 2 3 turns but.. wtf reload? Pathetic..
This guy is kind of a dick to the people who donate/ask questions lmao. Not even the trolls, just the people that are like "New patch has this feature, so cool!"
Legend: I DONT FUCKING CARE
👀... alright...
where the hell did I say that? Timestamp that please. That can't be what I said.
@@LegendofTotalWar 45:07
You may not have said "fucking care" but basically the same thing. Dude just wanted to inform you about some porthole changes lol. After rewatching it, maybe you were still in a funk about people wanting you to confederate Marienburg, but still. Just as a note, I am not basing my comment about you being a dick to people only on this interaction. It just feels like 'Thx for the donation, idiot' sometimes.
@@ryanhorton3248 Ok I can kind of see where you're coming from. Here's why this happens from my perspective: I've got thousands of people watching for the actual gameplay. I don't focus on graphics at all. When i get distracted on stuff that's not about the gameplay people leave the stream. So I appreciate a $2 superchat for sure but I'd rather not get the super chat if it means being less entertaining for the people that are watching for the actual battle. That will sometimes mean I am short with people. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I just could not focus any time or attention on something so trivial. I never meant to be thanks for the donation, idiot. It's more like thanks for the donation but I'd rather not have received it. I do tell people constantly to try to keep the conversation on the gameplay and that I reserve to right to not answer any questions that aren't related to that. That will sometimes mean people will superchat and be disappointed with my response.
@@LegendofTotalWarSHORT!?