The best option for astro image capture?? The RPi5 is almost deliciously good. First impressions.
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Tired of using a laptop for controlling your telescope and astrophotography equipment? Maybe it's time for a piece of the Pi! The Raspberry Pi 5 is a great alternative to pricier, more restrictive options. It consumes less power. And it might be able to do planetary imaging as well as capturing deep sky objects! Here are my initial thoughts of two setups, a Vilros starter kit, and NVME hat with Geeekpi case.
Vilros Pi Kit: amzn.to/3Kd09Na
RPi5: amzn.to/3wVcfr3 (you can get them cheaper elsewhere)
Geeekpi Case: amzn.to/4dJj67A
Hat in Video: amzn.to/3UUuYuK
NVME in Video: amzn.to/4axDVjI
Hat with good cable (untested): amzn.to/3WQrA75
Small 512 GB NVME for good cable: amzn.to/4e3W1Nl
NVME to USB Adapter: amzn.to/3UUv5GG
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Skywatcher HEQ5 Mount amzn.to/3NVrVQi
Skywatcher 80mm F7.5 Doublet amzn.to/47mbfZi
ZWO EFW mini filter wheel amzn.to/48OxhoN
Optolong LRGB Filter Set (1.25") amzn.to/47r23Tw
Orion 0.8x Reducer amzn.to/47s64a4
USB RJ45 Cable for Controlling Mount amzn.to/4aPlIzu
Raspberry Pi to control mount amzn.to/48mTBWH
R Pi case with touch screen amzn.to/3HvdNKl
ZWO Autofocuser amzn.to/3Skg0hX
ZWO 294MM Pro Camera: bit.ly/3tZmjOo
HEQ5 Mount: bit.ly/3O7VQVz (mine is Orion Sirius, which is equivalent)
ZWO Filter Wheel: bit.ly/3Soo5lw
Optolong Filters (LRGB, SII, Ha, OIII): bit.ly/3SlEPtJ (the Ha and OIII narrowband filters are better than what I have)
Skywatcher Evostar 80mm: bit.ly/4bfVjev (equivalent lens)
USB RJ45 Cable: bit.ly/48FRj50 (connects mount to laptop directly; mine is a different brand, but this should do)
ZWO Autofocuser: bit.ly/425XUDB
0.8x Reducer: bit.ly/3tQlbg7 (mine is Orion, but this should be equivalent)
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Affiliate links of the products:
Vilros Pi Kit: amzn.to/3Kd09Na
RPi5: amzn.to/3wVcfr3 (you can get them cheaper elsewhere)
Geeekpi Case: amzn.to/4dJj67A
Hat in Video: amzn.to/3UUuYuK
NVME in Video: amzn.to/4axDVjI
Hat with good cable (untested): amzn.to/3WQrA75
Small 512 GB NVME for good cable: amzn.to/4e3W1Nl
NVME to USB Adapter: amzn.to/3UUv5GG
ZWO ASI Air for those interested: bit.ly/3Vbe38T
I have developed a DIY RPI Hat you may be interested in. I’m using an Rpi-5, NVME drive, and my DIY hat. The hat has DC distro, dew heater, GPS, 5VDC for the Rpi, and a few other features I’m adding.
I also have a complete Stellarmate OS setup for Rpi-5/NVME/kstars/ekos/ that boots from the NVME if anyone is interested.
I would be interested! Feel free to email me at deepskydetail at gmail if you'd like :)
@@deepskydetail I sent you an email with some attachments.
DC control would be a big deal
Great video! I think many people will be interested to know how to install the software for imaging objects of deep space and solar system.
Thank you! I may do that! I was thinking of writing a guide, but I haven't got to it. A video might be easier.
Excellent video. Agree with your assessment and tried to move from RPi4 to RPi5 myself and ran into all the challenges you mention, and as such stuck with the RPi4 for the past 2 weeks because I was preparing for the eclipse and did not want to change my setup.
For the RPi5, I followed the recompile instructions you likely followed and that helped, but was not perfect for the RPi HD Camera. I am hoping to revisit this during the summer and get switched over, and like you, will move to a Pi.Hat for NVME. Thanks for the pointer about the cable as this has always been a weakness for the Pi.
Good Luck on imaging.
Thanks! I'm glad I'm not the only one with issues. I hope things get sorted out to make installation easier. Otherwise, a lot of people will not be interested in the pi 5 or kstars, which would be disappointing.
Great video! definitely a very cool project! Might I suggest making a custom iso using something like Cubic and distributing that. I think that can make the setup process easier for people who might be interested. I'd be open to lend a helping hand in building this up more if you're thinking of it, always looking for cool open source projects to work on lol.
Thanks! That would be a great idea. Email me at deepskydetail at gmail to see if we can get anything done. :)
Thanks for the informative video! I'm still on an RPi4 with Stellermate on it. For some reason I was not aware of the existence of NVMe hats so I might give it a go :)
Thank you! If you try the hat, let me know how it goes with the Pi4. It might be smoother sailing since the 4 has been around longer. :)
The RPi 4 does not have the PCIe connector on it. I believe you can get a USB-NVMe adapter. I tried using a USB 3.1 flash drive on my RPI 4. That booted OK, but when I hot plugged a USB device in, the Pi crashed. I ended up going back to the SD card for booting.
Silly me! I forgot about not having a PCIe with the Pi4. I've seen the hats with the USB connectors for the Pi4 and got confused. I've always had trouble with getting enough power from the USB ports with Pis.
Struggled with AstroBerry and then got an ASIAir. Just boggles my mind how ZWO just created a simple user interface for PHD2 and Indi.
Yeah, they did a good job with it. I would definitely rate the Pi 5/5 if it was easier to install the software and drivers. There's a lot that can go wrong.
Great video, I currently run Stellarmate on a Pi4 8GB from a USB3.0 external SSD. Recently tried NINA on a mini PC, but I see myself going back to EKOS / KStars.
Thanks for sharing! How did you like Nina if you don't mind asking?
@@deepskydetail So far I'm not as impressed as I thought I was going to be. EKOS / KStars is definitely better in some areas, NINA in others.
I made a mini review on Cloudy Nights titled "N.I.N.A vs EKOS - I was Surprised"
I think Stellarmate OSX built for Intel (mini PC) might be worth a look.
The interactions I've had up to now with NINA "contributors" has been quite awful, condescending jerks basically.
Thanks for the insight! I've always been impressed by the kstars support and overall helpfulness in their forums by the developers.
@@deepskydetail Absolutely! I'm going to give NINA a fuller evaluation, but right now I'm really in the fence. I can see myself going back to KStars / EKOS.
You should totally sell loaded drives and or loaded setups. 👍 I’d buy one.
Good to know! I'll look into it :) One of the things that makes me hesitant is if the drivers for some reason don't work for a particular setup. Hopefully it won't be a big deal though!
@deepskydetail test what you can (in production of course) and load it with all the major players drivers is the only way I can think of. I guess if someone had an unusual rig, they’d need to let u know and maybe that’s the way. When/if you decide to sell a few get a list of the buyers current gear and anything on their radar just as a double check against a standard driver array.
@@nojaysimpson thanks! that makes sense to me :)
I tried this last year, the compiling took a lot of time, Kstars not working well under wayland. Also the indi driver for pi camera (imx290) is not ready on pi 5
Definitely sounds familiar, lol. I wish astro programs worked better with Wayland. And compiling everything took a long time for me too. At least X11 can be re-enabled in the settings. I hope the pi camera driver gets ready soon. Are you still using Kstars with the Pi 5 or have you switched to something else.
@@deepskydetail I was trying to use pi-camera as a guide scope, eventually I found it was too much work and decided to wait until the pi camera library on pi 5 gets better. Maybe now it's ready and I should give it another try.
@@yihanzhang2094 I hope it goes well! I'd be happy to hear how it goes :)
I missed stick figure man.
I'd like to escape the ZWO death grip ecosystem to use other cameras and get back some more advanced features like Nina has. Like you I got tired of packing my laptop out and leaving it outside all night.. protecting it from dewing up..
I bought a (useless) license for stellar mate for my pi4 8gb. I gave up trying to get it to work. I'll check out your guide with it and choose to either get an RP5+ssd or the mini pc Cuiv suggests.
Stick figure man will be back in my next video. I just couldn't figure out how to use him in this one, lol! It's nice not having to worry about a laptop all night. Do you know why stellarmate didn't work on your Pi4? I would say try to get kstars/ekos or stellarmate to work with the Pi4. If those don't work for you with the 4, then I don't know if it will be any better with the 5.
As a side note, I did see an open source ASI Air OS clone somewhere. It might combine the best of both worlds. I'll try to find it and share it if I do.
I've had Stellarmate running on a Pi 4 for nearly 2 years now, works great accessing via VNC, however, the mobile app never worked for me.