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Lies about the Ka’aba and Black Stone! - Historical Anachronisms of the Qur'an - with Dr. Jay - E. 6
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- If the Qur'an is truly inspired by the divine then there should be no historical inaccuracies, yet Mecca is described as the most ancient and famous city in the world and the only owner of the Black Stone and Ka’aba. Yet history tells us that the Ka’aba was originally in Jerusalem with the Jews and the Black Stone moved to many locations before landing in Mecca. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay discuss the historical facts about the Ka’aba and the Black Stone. Spoiler alert! They don’t agree with the Qur'an.
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Let's not forget that worshiping a magic rock is paganism.
Where ever we are in the east,north, south and west..we pray towards Kabaah..we don't worship that black stone..it's just our directional to pray.
Just imagine if we are at the top of the sky and see all human being praying and bowing down in ONE DIRECTION to ALLAH the God of the whole universe...😊
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so, you do not know your own "religion"...or Iie
100%
@@fiditenemini2452 up to you..I don't force you to believe me...am just giving info..
@@Jamal-rg6br how about kissing that holy rock ? isn't it paganism?
This set of episodes is really damaging. We've been waiting for it for a long time, finally now we have it all in one Playlist. Looking forward for making it available in Russian language.
God bless brothers Al Fadi and Jay Smith!
I wish it were in Spanish
Numbers 23:19
19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.
According to 😂😂
2 Kings 8:26, Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began to reign, and reigned for one year in Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 22:2
Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri
@@ishakajalloh209042 is the year he ruled in his dynasty 22 was his age
@@ishakajalloh2090 Also, the same bible said that the lord has visited Abraham. So he can take the form of a human if he wants to. Also, there is the entire deal with the trinity. Also, he speaks without a month or vocal chords... In a language Abraham understands
@@defenderoftruth3212
There was no light in the cave of hira where the lies began. The assumed angel say "read" the accosted replied "I cannot read" and this went on three times over. It could have been worse even if the conversation was "recite after me" and a reply "I cannot recite"
Did the angel arrived the cave with a pre-written material? Yet, twenty two years after the fact, the accosted could not read or write according to his handlers. Every lie began from this point and light and darkness have nothing in common.
Truth is the biggest enemy of Islam.
FACT !!!
Absolutely right..
And Alonzo Harris!
@@thunderous-one True very true 🤭
All religions are man made. 3/4 of the stories Quran are edited copies from Biblical myths and legends, which were made up by writers of the books that formed the Bible, or copied from ancient Babylonian, Greek, Canaanite and Egyptian myths.
The similarities do not support the common divine origin, because these stories contradict science and proven history through archeology and comparative parallel human history.
Biblical and Quranic morality is also focused on supremacy, exclusion, land annexation in the name of the divine, enslavement of women as sex slave, acceptance of slavery and belief in superstition, non existent beings, magic and the power of prayers..
Also a childish belief in eternal heaven and hell with various degrees of bodily pleasures or sadistic torture for ever and ever and ever…
Islam was the same pagan practice carried out by the neighboring countries around Israel, the Baal worshippers has never ceased to exist, they only upgraded to Islam. The Bible refers to them as heathen.
You are 💯 PERCENT true ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The new testament refers it as antichrist spirit
Upgrade?
💯💯truth
@@AlonzoHarris235 Alonzo Harris worship 3al lah. Black stone , Mohammed and jibril( dalhikabi)
Aelius Gallus led an army through todays Mecca region 2000 years ago and never reported the Kaaba.
Because there was no Kabba that was another thing stolen by Islam from Israel also and they made it into a pagan worshipping temple or holy place it is not different than the golden calf it is Idolatry with that black stone sealing the deal.
@@richardkerns1709 : What is inside of "KABA" Can anyone answer pls!
@@venkat.t Same Question I have
@@venkat.t easy to google..
2000 yrs ago Islam and the black stone were not invented.
You both are very special. Bringing so much information for everyone to understand or at least be aware of. Thank you.
I love all these informations. They are getting muslim out the mess
This information lacks veracity. They speak without evidence, claiming '10 books'-one must not be thinking independently to accept that. Moreover, they did not possess the earliest written Quran.
@@saraoostrum300 It is essential to learn English properly. The issue is not about causing trouble for Muslims; it's about making oneself look foolish.
If mekka was an old city where is the ancient cemetery old ruined buildings houses arts stones nothing
There’s a reason they don’t dig there. They know they won’t find anything. Now go to Israel and ur lucky to find a spot that hasn’t been shoveled.
It's possible that "Mecca" is related to "makaan", which is Arabic for "place".
The Hebrew "makom" has the same meaning. It is a euphemism for the Temple or the Sanctuary which, to begin with, was portable.
"Mecca", then, means any place where the Kaaba happens to be for the time being. Including Petra.
Just as an aircraft becomes Air Force One as soon as the President of the United States steps aboard.
Even show me a 5th, 6th, or 7th century map, that has Mecca on it.
Seems to me No-one knew it was there 😊
@@defenderoftruth3212 The problem for Islam with this theory is, it's not just " one person forgetting to put it on one map".
There are dozens of maps from LOCAL communities and tribes that don't show Mecca existing in the 5th, 6th or 7th century.
But I could ask Muslims, show me a map , from the 1000,s available, that shows Mecca in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th century??? You cannot tell me they ALL forgot to put it on the map.🤔
@@defenderoftruth3212yeah, all muslims were too dumb to draw maps...
We Greeks destroyed ancient paganism when we converted to Christianity ☦️ but Arabs just promoted paganism when they created islam 7 centuries later
No, the Arabs returned to the true faith when they believed in Islam. Abraham, Moses, Joseph, and Yahya. They all believed in God Almighty, just as we Muslims believe. Abraham and Moses died believing in the Great God. They did not know that God would transform into a human. We returned to the true faith. I am an Egyptian who returned to Islam, which is the religion of my ancestors 7,000 years ago. Did you know that Constantine When he allowed belief in Christianity, Constantine and those who came after him issued orders to kill any Egyptian who rejected Christianity? Constantine and those who came after him issued an order to demolish the ancient temples of my true Muslim ancestors and turn the temples into churches when Islam came a second time to Egypt with Amr ibn al-Aas and 4000 soldiers. The Egyptians welcomed them and helped them conquer Byzantine. Egypt was liberated from the occupation of Byzantine and the Egyptians returned to Islam. Praise be to God, I am a Muslim and I thank the Almighty that Muslims They saved us in Egypt and introduced us to Islam, which happened in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco. All these peoples knew the truth, so they returned to Islam and abandoned the human god. You, sir, are unfortunately wrong. You believe that a human being prostrated to God and cried out to God and said, “My father is greater than me.” He said, “Why do you call me good?” Only God is good. Please think deeply to see the light of truth, to see the light of God and His religion, Islam
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The only Reason why Egyptian Culture still alive is thanks to Christians not to islamic arabs.
Ancient egyptians use to HATE ASIANS and we can read it in Hieroglyphs all about Egypt , they called the Asians as Bastard Invaders so trust me if Ancient Egyptians would return to life they would Kick Arab islamic invaders out of their lands !
A Genocide religion that is nothing witout a Sword !
7000 yrs ago🤣🤣🤣🤣🤐🤐🤐🤡
@@ianjacobs2998 yes
@@ianjacobs2998 Yes, sir, this is recorded history written on the walls of our temples (our ancient mosques) and cemeteries. The inscriptions have been present for 7,000 years, so we suffice and say our civilization is only 7,000 years old, but it is much further than that, but there are no writings, so we suffice as an example. We have a demolished temple southwest of Aswan 14,000 years ago, but it does not have an inscription on it, so we do not mention it, sir. Will we suffice? Did you know that God sent prophets to every place in the world? To every people, God sent a prophet who would teach them, guide them, and lead them to His ways. He sent prophets to Japan, to China, India, Iran, Italy, Egypt, Syria, Nigeria, Mexico, etc. Therefore, you find similarities and overlap between the religions known now, and unfortunately those who do not know reject the similarity and rapprochement. The overlap, but the overlap, is evidence that God sent his prophets to the world, as the Qur’an told us. Did you know that most Egyptians are Christians and Muslims who follow the teachings of the ancient Egyptian philosopher Plotinus? He lived in Alexandria 200 years AD. All the Christian monks echo his ideas. All the Muslim mystics repeat his sayings about God and how to abandon your burdens. The requirements of your body in order to reach God and rise in knowledge to behold God. The Muslims stole some of Plotinus’ sayings and attributed them to God. Yes, they said that they were holy hadiths that God revealed to the Prophet in the books of heritage. This exists.
Thank you for all your work.
Satan's invention 😢
Strange religion 🙀🙀
Sahih Muslim 146
It id narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the messenger of Allah (saw) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it will again revert to being strange just as it started, and it will recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.
😊 it's a cult
S Satan deceived Mary in the donn of jibreal
huh?
Cult and pagan religion
Why would Muhammad want a sparsely populate oasis settlement on the fringes of the empty quarter?
Matthew 12:43
An Unclean Spirit Returns
(Luke 11:24-26)
“When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.
Good point
He wanted to prof the Jews he was a new profet
This is where most of the followers of the bible are kept underwraps about the verses in Gospel of John chapter 16 v.12-14.
The churches hid the truth of authenticity and never wanted to clarify it was who ?
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The present-day disciples of Jesus Christ are led and empowered by the Holy Spirit. We use His gifts and bare His fruit by doing good works, bringing glory to the Name of LORD Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit was poured out on the disciples of Jesus on the day of Pentecost starting the Church age. That Spirit of Truth has not ended His ministry within the Church. I pray the slaves of the false god of the dead man Muhammad be freed to become children of the Living LORD, the Eternal Father of Jesus the Christ.
NO LIES NO ISLAM FINISHED BAY BAY 😂
Delusional 😅
@jazzymilesmiles3308Clearly more than you do 😂..
@jazzymilesmiles3308refute them and stop talking, the fact Mecca isn’t found on the maps in any historical context should be alarming for you
Lies means definition pls Hitler bush Tony Blair spoke golden truth to attack the innocent unarmed people of Iraq ur people lies definition is this
You are the idiot for believing anything about the kaaba! @jazzymilesmiles3308
Without lies islam dies
Without Jews christanity dies..... bible is not a word of god but it was authored by jews long after the death of Jesus. Jesus never preached bible, christanity or worshipping of Cross of Slavery.
Dear @@joinmyparty:
But Quran testifies about BIBLE, explicitly mentioning TORAH & INJIIL, meaning Hebrew and Christian literature;
So without that heritage Quran lose credibility and all of its Jewish prophets that are bearing Jewish names.
@@joinmyparty:
Regarding slavery, Moses delivered the Hebrews, and JESUS later came and said:
-"No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you." (John 15:15)
And with Lies Islam thrives
Without profanity, there is no Christianity.
Flavius Josephus was a 1st to early 2nd century Jewish historian, if anyone is wondering.
Before Josephus, Herodotus was a Greek historian, and others said that he was a Syrian who preceded Josephus by 500 years. He lived in the Arab region, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan. He arrived in Yemen on a ship and wrote about everything he saw. He did not mention anything about Jerusalem. He did not mention anything about a Jewish group. He never mentioned anything about Israel. So what is it called? that? His writings were in the years 450 and 435 before the birth of Jesus
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Great, naturally not every human being on the face of the Earth will write about any particular city.
But we DO KNOW that Jerusalem existed and that Judah existed during that time because WE DO have Egyptian, Assyrian, Persian, etc. records for their kings's dealings with them. We also know that in the first few centuries post Babylonian exile that Jerusalem was a rather small and unimportant city. (Because it had recently been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar - confirmed by Babylonian records.) And the Bible confirms this too. The original Second Temple wasn't anywhere near as stately or grand as Solomon's. And it wouldn't be until the Herodians that Jerusalem regained some prominence.
There has never even been one writing from a historian which mentions Mecca - or any major trade city where Mecca now is. There is not one royal document which mentions it.
Other cities in the area were mentioned in historical documents, but mecca supposed to be the earliest and greatest city have no mention in any historical documents prior to 8th century AD
I listen to alot of Dr. Jay and they can not dispute the history of non evidence for the existence of Muhammad, Mecca, or the Quran and he proves it. Even Muhammad's biography was written by a old German author literally thousands of miles away and thousands of years after his supposed death which I am not buying that either, the guy never even knew Muhammad or anyone associated with him but yet wrote his biography ?🤔
@defenderoftruth3212 Not sure who you referring to but you going to base your faith on some person?
@@defenderoftruth3212 but can you explain why mecca was not mentioned in any historical writings before the 8th century AD? Looks like your avoiding that issue
@@defenderoftruth3212 No, it is not worth pondering at all, rather it is worth pitying. We will pray for the former bishop that he repents of his idolatry and leaves paganism. Those who "leave Christianity" were never Christians to begin with, scripture plainly tells us that. You may boast of that man falling into paganism and kissing rocks if you like, but it does not add prestige to your idolatrous and pagan "religion" to do so.
Very informative ..i learned something new today.. as a foreigner who worked and lived in Saudi, & Bahrain many many years ago this story took me to another understanding about my old point of view about written misinformation about Ka'aba
What is the meaning of the Kaaba? We say Ka'b al-Ahbar (the name of a Jewish character who converted to Islam at the time of the Prophet). Any man to whom the rabbis return and learn from him is the center of the news and the focal point of the news. Likewise, the Kaaba is the place to which people go to worship God and perform Hajj. The Kaaba is the center and focus of Islamic places for worshiping God. The Qur’an says that the Kaaba is the first house on earth. People worship God there and pray and communicate with God there. The Kaaba did not take its name from the geometric shape of a cube, but it took the name because it is the focus and center of worship. Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them, rebuilt it among the Samaritan Jews who believed in the first books of Moses (5) holy books. They say that Ishmael was the one who built the Kaaba. Books What is sacred to the Samaritans is older than the sacred books of the Jews. Is the Black Stone sacred? Of course not. It is a unique stone that people placed at the Kaaba so that they would know the number of times they circumambulated around the Kaaba (circles). However, many Muslims sanctified it. I am a Muslim. I consider the sanctification of the Black Stone to be a remnant of the paganism that entered the Muslims historically. The Qarmatians stole this stone and said that it was ancient paganism before recovering it from them. The strongest group of Muslims, Ptolemy, in the second century AD, mentioned Mecca in his writings. The Babylonians, two thousand years before the birth of Christ, mentioned Mecca as (Makkurba). In ancient history, there is Mecca. Some researchers said it was the name of a god, but what is surprising is that Arab historians did not mention his name as a god. They mentioned the names of all... The ancient gods in the region did not mention Maqah. Other researchers say that (Maqah) is a phonetic derivation of Lal Mek = for the god of Mecca, as is the case with (Baalbek Baal Bek) (Babylon Bab El) (Bilqis Baal Qais) Heodotus is a famous historian who lived before Christ 438 after the return of the Jews from The Babylonian captivity, as the legend says. Some say he was Syrian, others say he was a Greek. He wrote about the region and did not mention Jerusalem, nor did he mention Israel or the Jewish religious community. Should we deny the existence of the Jews because Herodotus did not mention them in his writings? The same is the case with Mecca. It did not appear suddenly in history. Greetings to you. I wish happiness and peace for humanity.
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Mecca is not even 1000 years old.
What are you saying ?
@@leprojetveinesdesdeserts.6311 اكاذيب يخدعكم رجال الدين وعلماء التاريخ التابعين للكنيسه فمثلا هيرودوت عاش في المنطقه سنوات وسنوات زار مصر وسوريا ووصل الي اليمن وكتب تاريخه ولم يذكر ان في المنطقه يهود ولم يذكر القدس ولا ارض اليهوديه فهل نلغي وجودهم لان هيرودوت لم يذكرهم في كتبه؟ سيدي مكه مزكوره في التاريخ منذ 3500سنه في النقوش الاشوريه مكه مزكوره من 3000سنه في النقوش اليمنيه وتاريخ مكه مذكور ومسجل في النقوش اليمنيه قبل 4000سنه مسجل انتقال ابراهيم اليها وكيف انتقل الحشمونين اليها وكيف تكونت قبيله قريش فيها وقبيله جرهم الي مكه كل ذلك مدون في تاريخ اليمن وطبعا لم يقل ذلك ابدا لك المؤرخين التابعين لكنيستك هل تعرف لماذا لايذكرون لك ذلك؟لان النقوش اليمنيه تذكر ان موسي وداوود وسليمان وايوب وابراهيم ولوط وهود ويعقوب كلهم عاشوا وماتوا في اليمن لذلك لايخبروك عن مكه المذكوره في سجلات اليمن لكنهم يخدعونك باكاذيبهم ان المقه هي مكان في اليمن ولايذكرون ان المقه هو ايل مقه اي اله مقه اله مكه ياسيدي نحن العرب نعرف تاريخنا جيدا فنحن نعيش التاريخ ومحبوسين في التاريخ ه
@@leprojetveinesdesdeserts.6311 Unfortunately, you believe the lies of your clergy and the lies of historians affiliated with the church. The truth is, Mecca was written in Assyrian records and inscriptions 3,500 years ago. Mecca was also mentioned in Yemeni inscriptions 4,000 years ago, but they never told you that. It is written on stones in Yemen. Mecca. Mecca. Mecca = Il Mecca = God. Mecca = God of Mecca. They are. They will not tell you that because the Yemeni inscriptions record Abraham, Jacob, Hood, Moses, Pharaoh, Solomon, David, Lot, Job. All of these prophets lived and died in Yemen, so they will not tell you the truth. Herodotus is an ancient historian who lived in the fifth century BC. He lived in Syria for a time and in Egypt. He moved to Yemen and wrote about the history of the region and its cities. And its peoples, but he did not mention Jerusalem in his writings. He did not mention anything about the land of Judaism or Judaism as a religion. Can we cancel the existence of the land of Judaism, the religion of Judaism, and the city of Jerusalem because Herodotus did not mention it in his book?
Excellent explanation and clarity. I think the circumambulating tradition and that too 7 times goes way back to Vedic civilization which was the most prevalent ideology since ages.
Continue exposes the lies of deception.
Information is not accurate and biased
@@defenderoftruth3212Yes like you.
great info gentlemen i am sure many muslims are learning the truth and leaving islam in spades
I agree with you mate the problem is most Muslims are so brainwashed by it they will simply refuse to believe you no matter how much evidence you have 🙄
We are happy to bring more Muslims in Islam 😊 peace ✌️
Lol😂 the more they try to demonize Islam the more converts to Islam.
Huge ! congratulations !
For all anyone knows, the Ka'aba and the 10th century Ottoman fort may have been built at the same time using the same stones.
10th century ottoman fort? what hashish are you smoking mate :))
@@ragael1024 This channel has all sorts of documented surprises. It's hard to believe but it's an archeological find in SA.
Mr. Al Fadi And Mr. Smith, please put the references that you mention about the history of the black stone, what documents you have, and the references from Josephus about Marwa an Saffa. put it on screen or put the references on the description above.
Read Fountains of Knowledge by John of Damascus
Is that the book where John of Damascus goes in on islam?@@arifsoetanto7533
Muslims putting their head into that toilet bowl is always kinda funny.
Dear Sir, we know our religion well. What is said in the video is not true
brother it's not toilet bowl but it's come from angel. angels toilets bowl in heaven😂
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Well, produce the evidence to counter claim then? There is no credible evidence worthy of name to substantiate the fantastical claims of the Quran worthy of name. In fact, there is no credible evidence to back the claims of all the Abrahamic faiths. However, there is plenty evidence that the Quran heavily plagiarises the old & new testaments. One thing for sure, Jesus was a Jew, he was never a prophet for islam. Those that peddle the claims of Mohammed live a life of wishful thinking & pure fantasy. Islam is a cult religion that conditions its children from birth to believe in unprovable nonsense. Islam is a clear & present danger to secular society & humanity.
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e If it makes you happy to live a lie, then Okay.
@@rogerjamespaul5528 I live the truth, sir. You live the lie. You are a god. It is impossible for a child to be on his mother’s chest
The black stone's movements could probably be more clearly described there, with references. John of Damascus also had the idea that it was originally a statue of Diana, roughened up for reuse, so it would be interesting if its impressive manoevres could be definitively (or at least fairly reliably) proven. But Mecca does not look to be in the Hijaz, if we regard that as the home town of whoever wrote the Quran, or its major author. Features of the Hajj are "copy-pastes" and also some myth making about Abraham, Ishmael and Hagar that isn't feasible.
Do you mean the Artemis of Ephesus?
Excellent video.
Safa is from the Hebrew eord Tsofim. Which is the Scopus Mount in Hebrew
Do you have a manuscript in Hebrew? Its time? The Jews, Moses, Abraham, Ishmael, Joseph, Solomon, David, and Yahya are all Arabs who spoke Arabic but did not know Hebrew. If you have a manuscript in Hebrew, please submit it. The oldest manuscript in Hebrew dates back to how many years? Is there any archaeological trace or inscription on stone, metal, or leather that confirmed the presence of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, and Solomon in Palestine? Israel formed a committee to excavate for any trace that confirms the Biblical story for twenty years. Dr. Herzog said, “We have not found any trace that confirms the Biblical story, and there is no trace that confirms the existence of the Torah stories in Palestine or Israel, but the Palestinians have thousands of evidence of their existence from thousands of years ago. Canaanite inscriptions on stone and metal. What do they explain? That?Do you lay your head down without thinking?
Who else sees the ad of the near 20 yo muslima begging to stop war bc she’s a “child” and think “but u argue Aisha wasn’t”?
She also has zero accent and looks healthy as can be. Im sure she's not an actor lol
Bingo!
@@defenderoftruth3212 , his eyes are blurry because he has been LAUGHING at Islam until the tears came. So have I.
Is Aisha written in the Qur’an? There is no mention of Aisha. Unfortunately, the counterfeiters and haters of Islam succeeded in creating sayings, stories, and incidents that they attributed to the Prophet two centuries, 300 years after his death, and 400 years. Do we trust writings that were passed from lips to lips after centuries? All the hadiths and stories that Muslims attribute to the Prophet are not true. The Prophet came only with the Qur’an. There is no Aisha in the Qur’an. She is a legendary character who does not exist, sir. The Qur’an is different from the narratives of Muslims. I will give you 4 examples to know the truth. The Qur’an does not contain legislation that allows slavery to buy a human being and sell him or own a human being. This crime is not found in the Qur’an. But Muslims made statements of the Prophet that allowed this, so what should we believe? Secondly, the Qur’an granted the right to every human being to believe or disbelieve. It gave the freedom to apostatize, but Muslims made sayings that they attributed to the Prophet prohibiting that and teachings to kill apostates from Islam. Who should we believe? The Qur’an does not contain legislation that allows polygamy. This is not in the Qur’an, but Muslims made statements that they attributed to the Prophet centuries after his death, allowing marriage to more than one wife. So what should we believe in the founding text, the sacred text, or what people are familiar with? The Qur’an did not legislate invasion. It did not legislate attacking others, killing them, and plundering what they had. This is an assault that the Qur’an forbids and teaches us not to attack, but Muslims created sayings that allow that. So what should we believe? The Qur’an, which is the sacred text for us, or should we believe books created by Muslims? Do you believe in the sayings of the Fathers or do you believe in the Gospels? It's the same thing with us
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e the Q is no sacred text of any kind. What on earth are u even talking about?!
We pray for our Muslim brothers and sisters, may the light and truth of Jesus Christ be revealed them; but not only them, all those who need to be awoken to the glory of the resurrection ✝️🙏🏼
Lol that doesn't mean Christianity is true either 🤣😂
@@user-rg9jp9md8xDeflection alert!
@@defenderoftruth3212it is already completely destroyed. You just have a blind eyes denying it is absurd, your religion
From frying pan to fire 😅
Truth is big and strong. Lies just multiply exponentially but gets destroyed instantly.
Those historical artefacts are the gifts that keep on giving ✊
Allah the Pagan ☪ Moon god..
▪︎°Robert Morey's 1994 book Moon-god in the Archeology of the Middle East revives Hugo Winckler's identification of Hubal as a moon god, and claims that worship of Allah evolved from that of Hubal, thus making Allah a "moon god" too.
▪︎ After Muhammad entered Mecca in 630, he destroyed the statue of Hubal from the Kaaba along with 360 idols of all the other polytheistic gods.
▪︎ Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah, the three daughters of Allah, had their sanctuaries in the land which later became the cradle of Islam.
In a weak moment Muhammad was tempted to recognize these powerful deities of Makkah and al-Madinah and make a compromise in their favour, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said to have received the form now found in Quran 53:19-20.
Would be great is he actually existed lol. Someone may have been influenced by pagan dirties, but it wasn’t Muhammed.
The context that you have attempted to distort using only a single verse without quoting the full context in Quran that makes your statement a fabricated lie.
Surah An Najm chapter 53
Allah says in the Quran
19. Have you then considered Al-Lat and Al-Uzza(two idols of the pagan arabs).
20. And Manat (another idol of the pagan arabs), the other third?
21. Is it for you, the males, and for him, the females?
22. That indeed is a division most unfair!
23. They are but names which you have named -you and your fathers -for which Allah has sent down no authority.
It is very clear that Allah did not have any daughters or to worship in the sanctuaries of land, as it mentions that these are idols made by pagan arabs, and prophet Muhammad (PBUH)was commanded by Allah to convey the message that there is none worthy of worship except Allah.
Unfortunately Robert morey did not understand the true concept of God through his own faith or scripture, when the churches hid the truth by altering and tampering the bible into English, which it mentions about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Solomon 5:16 in hebrew authentic bible language. Also, in other parts of the bible. I feel sorry for this guy, although their innerself pretends to accept the false knowing the truth.
No where god (Allah) has mentioned to worship his creations ( sun, moon & the stars) than only God (Allah) himself.
May Allah guide all in the straight path.
It is He who created the night and the day, the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit
And if you asked them who created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon, they would surely say, “God,” then how can they be fooled?
To all the Muslims. Please what did Muhammed mean when he said, .....“Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.” (Sahih Muslim 146) ?
It means islam will die dogs death.... And it will be muslim who will ensure islams death because they will force entire world to take action against Islam to preserve humanity n humans on earth!
There is an idea that would make a very interesting video idea: Let everyone know what has been the impact of all your videos to date on the Muslim Community. There has been some Muslim commercials played on you videos. I have not seen many since Oct 7 and those I have seen are related to IDF efforts in Gaza or Lebanon. There had been some before Oct 7 speaking to mostly in Arabic needed contribution to support and build mosques in NY/NJ/Florida but have not seen any recently. Basically have your videos making a dent in their numbers?
Islam associated black stone with AL LAH where the black stone erases sins. And it will has eyes, hands, mouth, and will be able to talk in the resurrection day. Amazing teachings of Islam!
😂 a rock? This is new age garbage... Using stones....
How can your sins be forgiven by a dead rock? Come to JESUS, He is alive and and can forgive your sins.
See the man can't listen to the lies of his stone...
You see and I already researched about this rock..
The myth created by phoinecians and Romans then copyrighted by there fake prophet and this guy can't listen to the English..
Of course not..
Dear Islam has nothing to do with worshipping rocks. Muslims worship God alone.
Yes it's in the mind of Christians that Muslims worship dead rock because Christians worship the Cross of Slavery gifted by Jews.
Desert pagan faiths that kept their paga roots! The black stone and the seven laps that represent the seven original planetary gods. My God tested Abraham with rock on which his son Isaac not Ismael laid. The Lord split a rock to give Moses and His chosen people life giving waters. Christ built His church on St Peter the rock he prophesied.
"While I draw this fleeting breath.
When my eyes are closed in death.
When I soar to world's unknown.
See Thee on Thy judgement throne.
Rock of ages, cleft for me.
Let me hide myself in Thee."
Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Very interesting.
In Islam, the eternally un-created Quran is older than the followings:
(1) Baking Soda
(2) Credit Card
(3) Human Beings
(4) Lights
(6) The Big Bang
(7) Creation
In other words, in the eternity past, before creation, there were only two who existed: (1) Allah and (2) the Quran. But Allah speaks about an honorable messenger who spoke the eternally un-created Quran into existence: In Quran 81: 19-21, Allah says, “Verily, this (Quran) is the word of an honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne.”
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This honorable messenger must be older than the eternally un-created Quran in order to speak the eternally un-created Quran into existence. At first, this may sound confusing, but Quran 2:2 assures us of the reliability of the Quran. It reads, “This book (Quran) is free of doubt (confusion, disbelief, or distrust).”
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CONCLUSION: If the eternally un-created Quran is the word of an honorable messenger, then the honorable messenger is older than the eternally un-created Quran. This points to Islam having three different eternally un-created beings: (1) Allah, (2) the honorable messenger who spoke the eternally un-created Quran into existence, and (3) the Quran, which according to Islam, is eternally un-created.
Lucifer always counterfeits real worship of The Almighty, so it makes perfect sense that in his book he would create an anti-trinity.
Off topic Just wanted to know about Hatun ?
Hatun is still alive. She was advised to not go to the park to debate because she had threats from islamists.
The problem with Hatun is she would provoke muslims by having the quran "holed".
Remember, she is dealing with satanic people, just debate intellectually like the rest of Christian apologists and you'll be fine.
@quaesitor-scientiae exactly I don't know. David Wood said she was OK and she had sent him a message but that was like 3-4 months ago and I'm worried for her .
Maybe under police protection program. I'm guessing
@user-tp3hg4se1s I hope, I just want to be sure she is ok
@@joeynanez9897 She is alive, i don't know why my previous comment has been deleted.
Many rituals in Islam is related to Rituals associated with Hinduism. For example, circumambulation is a common practice in both Hinduism and Islam. In Hinduism, it involves walking around a deity, murti (statue) or other sacred object clockwise, often 7 or 9 times. In Islam, circumambulation of the Kaaba is performed seven times, starting and ending at Hajar al-Aswad, the black stone embedded in the eastern corner of the Kaaba. Similarly, wearing the black hijab, a head covering similar to the Goonghat in Hinduism, has parallels in Islam. While veiling is a cultural practice in Hinduism, it has become a religious requirement in Islam. The concept of holy water, like zam zam in Islam, is similar to Hindu prasad, where prasad is distributed to devotees after puja. Both receive blessings and develop a sense of community. The act of facing the Kaaba during prayer in Islam is similar to idolatry in Hinduism. While God is believed to be omnipresent, focusing on the Kabbah during prayer reflects a form of idolatry. Circulating the Kaaba during the Hajj is a central ritual, similar to the role of idols in Hinduism.
Its hinduism. He was meditating in a cave like a hindu saint. Which muskum goes to meditate? Hinduism is which gave birth to islam. He hit God realisation through meditation. He converted kabba into brahmas temple. No statue
Thank You for your honesty sir.
Like the soda bottle falling from an airplane in "The Gods Must br Crazy." 😂😂😂😂😂
Guys be cool with @alonzo harris. He’s celebrating the eternal Quran’s 100th Birthday today! Congrats on a full century 🎉 buddy! Eternal=younger than some people alive today! Wait a second…
@@defenderoftruth3212 Yup. Honestly his incredible ability to expose how terrified I am of him keeps me up at night.
Crap..do you remember how to make my comments in the sarcasm font? My knowledge on that was abrogated.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Nah buddy…you completely misread the situation. If you just started frequenting these comment sections, let’s agree to disagree for now and we’ll check back in about a year from now. However, I will at least consider your comment here when you link comments to him asking him to pull back. See ya in 2025!
@@defenderoftruth3212 A glance? I’ve recently slowly reread it. I got my first Quran at the Idris mosque in North Seattle, almost a quarter of a century ago. Would you like to publicly commit that you have read the entire Bible? Perhaps you have perhaps you’ve read it 10 times there’s no way that I know that to be true or false I would just like to know for any further dialogue we have. If I say, I’ve read the Quran carefully and recently but say that Mohammed believed in 75 gods, would you believe that I’ve actually read it and made a good faith effort to understand it? No to the reason I said perhaps wait for a year is I was giving you the benefit of the doubt with respect to my fluffy little friend Alonso Harris. I was assuming in good faith that perhaps you didn’t know that he is a notorious poor faith trolling machine that has hundreds of times challenged virtually every Christian talking about Islam on the Internet to debate and never showed up to one. If we were to tally up how many times he’s asked grade school level questions incessantly versus ever answering even good questions…here’s what that tally would be:
4 Trillion to 0
Given these indisputable facts I have distributed above. I’m thinking maybe you should change your position? If you are in contact with my little friend or are one of his many alter egos, you could pass this along to him. If he provides a clear, good faith, answer to the one and only question I won’t let up on. I’ll answer 10 different questions he has about theTrinity.
Sound good?
Couldn't Al Fadi just silently be giving a thumbs up and let Jay do all the talking? Wouldn't that be better?
Man, book, city if any of these are false so is their whole religion according to their own teaching.
The man, (their false prophet if he ever existed), wasn't written about until 180+ years at the earliest after he supposedly lived.
There are still 31+ different qurans that can be found and bought today teaching some 93,000+ significant doctrinal differences.
The city itself simply does not exist on any early maps we have from that time period as there was no water supply there.
If just one of their tenants are proven false none of them can be true.
What do you call a three legged stool with no legs?
Useless.
Come home to Christ where we've faced all the critics and proven so many of their arguments false.
Many a critic has been determined to disprove Christianity but found their faith instead, which is different from any other religion on earth...
There is no disputing the historic facts yet they will say your information is wrong as well as literally thousands of historians, authors, scholars, archaeologist and some even eye witness accounts of no existence at all of the Kabba, Mecca or even Muhammad and the Quran.
Lol that doesn't mean Christianity is true either, how people can be this stupid😂 🤣
Prove me Christianity is true
@@defenderoftruth3212 there are no historical evidence for civilization in Mecca before the 8th century it was not used even if it existed, and there is no evidence that it did exist on any maps until the 8th century.
@@user-rg9jp9md8x the Holy Scriptures prove themselves by all the eye witness accounts, and archeological evidence, nobody needs to prove anything to you. You need to prove to yourself what is true, I garuntee you it is not Islam or any other made up religion god already proved that Himself that He is the highest of all.
Muslims just prove what u say.
Get out
@@Kumarapwmss1989 They are never going to prove anything. They say they believe. We Christians believe too and back up anything about Christianity
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Excellent video!
Ka’aba finds its roots in Qabalah (Kabbalah), the mystic esoteric Jewish offspring from traditional Judaism. It is also where we get the word cube from (when you open a cube, you get a cross). It is has lots of overlap with Sufism and the Coptics. All these old schools had much better understanding of the ancient scriptures, not the literal interpretation from the mainstream religions. They had no problem with the teachings of Shakyamuna Buddha and Khrisna.
It is because ancestors of Abrahamic religion followers were so called 'Pagans" (4000 BCE to 700 ACE) who even though lost touch with correct understanding of Hindu/Vedic metaphysics and ended up as nature worshipers or polytheists (who lacked any understanding of inherent unity of every manifest thing including their multiple “gods”) they did retain some Vedic practices and guess who were the ancestors of so called Pagans? Hindu/Vedic people who ruled the whole world before 4000 BCE.
It also means, there was NO white race before 4000 BCE. Eye color mutation and skin color change due to natural selection happened between 4000 BCE to 2000 BCE. There was permanent migration and settlement in Europe only after 4000 BCE.
In other words, "Hindus" who lost touch with correct understanding of Hindu/Vedic metaphysics outside India ended up as "PAGANS" between 4000 BCE to 700 ACE and within the "pagan" tradition, few nut jobs further went down the path of craziness and created blind belief Abrahamic religions. 😂😂
a. Jewish nation israel's flag has the star of david "symbol" which is nothing but Hindu heart chakra symbol still found in many ancient Hindu temples across India
b. Christianity's trinity was copied from so-called "Pagans' ' who followed Hindu/Vedic thirumurthies Brahma/Visnu/Shiva in a half baked manner. Christians also took their Christmas tree from Pagans and Church bell concept from Hindu temple bell tradition. Christians are still digesting Hindu traditions like Yoga (calls it Christian yoga), nondual ADVAITHA metaphysics (calls it Jesus consciousness), Bharathanatiyam or dance movements which represent Vedic metaphysics (calls it Chrisitian “dance” or natiyam in Sanskrit) all done for easy proselytization of Hindus
c. . There are 33 types of Vedic deities which are just symbolic representations of nature. So, there are no 33 or 330 million “gods”.
12 Adityas
11 Rudras
8 vasus
2 ashwini (solar deities)
All 3 Abrahamic religions have lifted from the concept of 33 vedic deities (from so called paganism outside India)- 33 vedic deities is the reason why Jacob's ladder on which angel Gabriel came down to meet Mohammad/ Moses/ Mormon founder Joseph Smith etc has 33 steps.. 33 vedic deities is the reason why the Islamic rosary called Misbahah , to keep track of counting of Tasbih has 33 beads, to perform dhikr ( tasbeeh/ tahmeed/ takbeer ).. 33 vedic deities is the reason why in precise Torah, Elohim is written 33 times, genesis' story of creation .. Elohim means Canaanite god adopted by Jews.
d. Islam's Kaaba stone "worship" is also a leftover of Pagan tradition. Mecca, where Kaaba or Shiva's stone deity is present, was a pilgrimage site for thousands of years for Hindus around the world. In south India, there is still an ancient KAABAlishwaran shiva temple.
Mecca is distinct from other mosques all over the world - the practices followed within its portals are NOT the same as in other mosques all around the world. There are major similarities with ancient Hindu/Vedic practice
Hindu/Vedic practices require devotees to enter temples in seamless white sheets.
Hindu/Vedic prathikshanam ( circumambulation ) is walking round 7 times, clockwise. Muslims cannot kiss the black stone (which activates the 7 chakras of the human body) any more, emulating the kiss it received from the prophet, as the stone was broken in the middle ages and is now held by silver clamps and nails . Muslims now do 7 counter clockwise circles around the stone.
The mysterious number 786 is sacred in the Koran. Nobody has been able to explain what it is, though it is printed on all Arabic Korans.
Write HIndu Sanskrit mantra OM symbol ॐ ( sound frequency 7.83 Hertz ) and keep it facing a mirror and you can see like MAGIC the number 786 in Devanagari script.
Kaaba was a pilgrimage site for centuries, more from from the days of King Vikramaditya (Hindu king who ruled the world 7500 yr ago) to even Guru Nanak ( a non muslim and a Sikh guru ) had been there
Encyclopedia Britannica says Kaaba has 360 'stone deities" including a King Vikramaditya inscribed gold dish, in a temple chamber called Ishalayam.
Dr Smith 🙌🙌🙌
Praise the Lord in Christ Jesus🙏
God bless you
There’s no Islam without tyranny 😢.
Islam has 3 god
Moon God
Black stone and
Muhammad
Your three gods were not The Creator.
Fast and pray for Yahweh’s truth.
🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖
no only one God
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Abu al-Fida Isma'il ibn Umar ibn Kathir al-Dimashqi
,al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī and
Jafar al-Sadiq
34.12-13
21.78-82 flying carpet in kuran .
@@jooo7011 My beloved, unfortunately I did not understand your words, Your Honor. You mentioned Ibn Kathir, a Salafist sheikh who is ignorant of Islam. He has an interpretation of the Qur’an whose interpretation is stupid and far from the true understanding of the Qur’an. As for Al-Hasan Al-Basri, I do not know much about him, and Jaafar Al-Sadiq is a great man and a pious Muslim who knows Islam and is a teacher with extensive knowledge, and our Shiite brothers consider him one of their nation. But the three Muslims, none of them said that Christ is a god. They said that Christ is one of God’s prophets
@@user-wc7ku7ud3e
-Jaafar Al-Sadiq is a great man and a pious Muslim who knows Islam and is a teacher with extensive knowledge, and our Shiite brothers consider him one of their nation-
Solomon (‘A)’s Ring
According to Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (‘a), Allah (SwT) had placed Solomon (‘a)’s power and authority in his ring. Whenever he put it on, the jinns, the humans, the demons, the birds, and all animals would be under his power and would obey him. He would then sit on his throne and Allah (SwT) would send the wind to carry the throne and his train of demons, birds, humans, animals, horses, etc., and would go wherever Solomon (‘a) wanted to. This is the meaning of verses 12 and 13 of Surah Saba’ (Ch. 34) and also 21:81-82. Solomon (‘a) would say his morning prayers in Syria and his noon prayers in Persia.
So you have flying carpet in kuran.
Why al lah corrupt text about flying carpet in your kuran?
What a great heart break for those Muslims whose dream was to visit once in life time, 5:00 their religious place Mecca ,now turned out to be false.
Truth should be the bace of any religion or faith.
The cube in many countries in Southeast Asia and specially in India is a symbol of Brahma (A)Braham which has as wife Sarah-Swasti = Sarah and he has two boys named Vishnu and Shiva wich interestingly all 4 names have the (IS) ISmael+ISaac+VIShnu+SHIva, and are matching like the 2 parent names in all respective traditions Abrahamic and Brahmanic.
So the four+four names coincide with each other perfectly. And the structures that are in Southeast Asia and India are called lingams which have the cube as base, with an octagon side shape in the middle and a round top, and can be found in Cambodia, Indonesia, India of corse, and also Vietnam. So where all does this is going to be put together and what are the arguments from historians?
This is built in temples and also kept in museums, and written in Sacred Scriptures, this is not a fantasy or a pseudo-science.
Leaves the impression that the Abrahamic texts want to give us some secret clue embedded in a way that goes well beyond mainstream history.
People can argue and say that there are only 2 references to India in the Old Testament ( and Bible ), but the first word of the Sacred Hindu Rg Veda is Agni ( Lamb ) and many chapters and verses are dedicated to Him. Perhaps we have something more in all this since the Jews deny the Holiness of Jesus as being the Lamb of God ( Hindu= Agni Veda ) ( Latin= Agnus Dei ) another striking semblance between Hindu and Latin.
Much more can be added but would leaves too far afield.
Would please like to have your opinion on this topic.
Kind Regards
Damn, I would love to learn more. As a Christian(Lutheran Sekht) that has been very interesting in [The Veda] for a while but have a hard time on what to get or read as a start and how many books are there just like how many Gospels there are too...
I’d really love to watch a film of prophet Mohammed’s biography like Christs films. Wonder how controversial it would be
how isnt this more recognized by the public or academya or goverments overall? this proofs a lot that people follows a blind cult.
The name Elagabalus refers to the god Baal.
@@defenderoftruth3212 alrighty then
The black stone is a Shiva Lingam which was broken and replaced a few years after Mohhameds death by rival brigands. Your Kabaa was a ancient Vedic Dharmic Temple. The 360 'buts' or idols that were destroyed were the 360 deities of signifying 360 days of the ancient hindu luni solar calender and each denoted the transit of the sun round the year about this creation on earth whose origin and also of all life is represented as the Shiva Lingam. The 5 days are adjusted periodically by the concept of Adhikmasa. There are quite a few Kabas recorded in the Mid east as far as ancient indian records which were shival lingams worshipped by locals in ways that were akin to hindu practices but which being away from the epicentre of Vedic religion got distorted. this is what west call by the fancy and hardly understood term Paganism. Even the dome of rock had the Black stone or Shival Lingam which was discovered and stolen by the Knights Templar and sent to France initially and then to Scotland. They discovered much more than the stone which they carried away and started undertaking a different form of worship. They also had the wealth and power that they amassed here. They were therefore burnt later as heretics. Templar churches in Scotland have depictions built of a creature with Mans body and lions head. I have seen it myself. It is nothing but hindu Narasimha form of god. The stone was known as the Stone of Scone and was taken away by the English.
Heck even Vatican was a seat of such a stone. In Sanskrit VATIKA means a Garden. And the mention is of the establishment of a garden and temple around this stone by Etruscans who predated the ancient Romans. Romans are also portrayed as pagans though direct similarity would have eroded long time ago. BTW ancient romans and greeks who were important and afford the same cremated their dead with similar ceremonies and not bury. Burial was for the poor. Concept of burial for Egyptian royalty was very different. It was of Jivanmukt philosophy as the Pharaos were considered as semi divine. If burial was the norm in the ancient world then one should have come up with graves in the same proportion of projected populations. Thats not the case. Burial for the commoner was either a punishment or lack of resources and knowhow to cremate.
Why do you think you do 7 anticlockwise cycles there ? It is a copy and reverse form of 7 clockwise Cycles around the fire or deity esp Shiva lIngam in the Northern hemisphere for all dharmic practices. you may check the clockwise and anticlockwise flow of fluids on earth depending in hemisphere.
All abrahamic faiths from Judaism Christianity and Islam are hotch potch half understood misplaced cheap material copies of some basic dharmic ideas that travelled to mid east through arab and indian traders that came and went from western coast of india. even the Jewish symbol of 6 pointed star is a copied symbol of the hindu Shiva Shakti symbol. Why do you think the Nazis who were anti semetic used the Swastika as a counter symbol and which is a hindu symbol used as a complementary philosophical representation with respect to the Shiva Shakti symbol.
the 7 heavens are a poor mans or kids infantile understanding of hindu Saptalokas or 7 levels of Creation based on 7 major frequencies or states of existence of the consciousness that percieves creation. this is even represented in the human body as the 7 major chakras of determinants of state of existence.
The Ibrahim of Islam or Abraham of Judaism and Christianity has a wife Sara. Abraham and Sara are very menial cpoies of Hindu Brahma and Saraswati.
And these symbols, practices and philosophies existed long before even Judaism was born leave alone Christianity or Islam.
they are just a lot of imagined cooked up bad fairy tales for mental kids.
This is what happens when illiterate desert nomads or commodity traders cut copy paste things beyond their comprehension, cook up mumbo jumbo around it, present it as word of god and enforces it through fear of death for control of people for political aims. Arguments about wether shit is yellow or brown. LoL
Very interesting thank you
Difference Kabaa vs Pyramid
Kabaa : House Of Al Lah, Build By angels, Ibrahim and Ismael, destroy 20 times, Stolen Black Stone one time for 22 years (After Muhammad death)
Pyramid : House Of Pharaohs, Enemy Of Al Lah, Thousand of years never destroy once, A Miracle of Creation
😂😂😂😇😇
That’s an interesting comparison
@@defenderoftruth3212 where is the evidence…….
That Abraham contributed to the building of Kaaba?
That Ishmael contributed to the building of Kaaba?
Or why…
That neither the Hebrew or Greek scriptures never mention Kaaba?
That no prophet ever mentions Kaaba?
No other faith system even mentions Kaaba?
Or
That the Kaaba existed ore 7th century?
@@defenderoftruth3212 also, according to Islamic tradition, it was 90ft Adam who built original Kaaba, so, why did you fail to mention this?
Have you ever seen some videos showing 90ft adam's graveyard? My first thought, was it adam or anaconda lying there😂
@@wakuwakuX I did a talk years ago on “reasoned answers” exposing the whole Hadith about 90ft Adam.
Yes I’ve seen the alleged grave, it’s a joke that anyone would suggest this.
I also used images of photo fixes where Muslims have used superimposed skulls with small humans and the claim of Adam’s grave being found.
But the greatest of all these was the one released over 20 years ago by Ali Sina of FaithFreedom who did a photoshop of a dig taking place and the unearthing of a giant human with the caption “Jewish archaeologists confirm Hadith about 90ft Adam” (It’s always Jewish scientists proving Islam true, not Christian or Muslim scientists). He released it to see how long the Muslim media would pick up on it and hail it!
Suffice, you can imagine the rest and how they felt when they had been had!
I thought the Kaaba location more aligns with Dan Gibsons theory where he thinks it was in Petra.
Also, if the Kaaba were in Jerusalem, why didn't they say so in the Quran because Jerusalem was a well established location back then.
petra and Beersheba bone dry the holy site would have pools of water. Mecca has wells that have quenched the thirst of millions for centuries
😂 you didn't see where the water comes from that goes to the zam zam well? There is only water in mecca and Saudi today! Not back in the 7th and 8th century.
@@ryantaylor731 nah. son that dog won't hunt. had zam zam well been located in Jerusalem it would be called a 9th wonder of the world. a miracle quenching the thirst of millions for centuries despite being in desert with little rainfall but god put it in Mecca and disbelievers turn away as those who watched Jesus raise lazaras from the dead then turned away in disbelief
Syncretism:
Religious syncretism, the fusion of diverse religious beliefs and practices.
@@cavalier2097 English please mate
To admin CIRA. Can you make this vidio with another language s like Arabic,India,Pakistan,Indonesia,?
When you have holy spirit in you then you know what is wrong and right and when you sin you cant hide. Thank you Jesus for open my eyes and help thrue anything in this life. You are the way the truth and the life Aamen 🙏✝️ praise the lord Hallelujah 🙏🙌✝️
Meanwhile, why are there over 100,000 textual variants among the biblical manuscripts? 🤔
What about the readings of the Q'uran? Muhammad had one tongue. Also, before you hit me with the "it's like accents!" Let that sink in: Some words are different. Which reading is the one Muhammad said? If I say: "I took the elevator" and someone said: "She said: "I took the lift" ". Isn't that a "variation"? Luckily for the bible, it's divinely inspired. As long as elevator and lift mean the same and the message is intact, it's ok. The Q'uran is divinely dictated. Which variation is etched on the tablets in heaven?
+ Hadith about lost passages
+ The ones who had memorized it were dying (why it was being collected)
+ Arabic had about 3 more stages after being accumulated for the first time: dots, tashkeel, and (in some versions) tajweed.
So, now you know. (I'm not denying the variations, before you say I'm "running away" from the question)
@@runachan2910 lol I’m no Muslim
@@GabrielEddy
Even if you aren't, this wasn't meant as an attack (sorry if I sounded rude😓)
I was explaining the reasoning for both in my comment. I'm here because someone asked a question and I answered it. I have to admit, I thought you were a Muslim because that's usually who comments on these videos. Again, sorry if I sounded rude❤
@@runachan2910 *Celebrated bible New Testament scholar/authority Bruce Metzger, James Bentley, George Arthur Buttrick, Bernard Lewis, many other Christian scholars, and early Church Fathers NEVER CONSIDERED BIBLE NEW TESTAMENT AS INSPIRED SCRIPTURE!*
So does tabernacle = Mecca due to relocation?
That is to say, prior to the temple the NoI used the portable tabernacle and wherever it was pitched was deemed holy, thus in comparison, Mecca, was a portable location deformed worship?
Wow even their rubic cube is a lie…….
Without lies, Alonzo Harris has nothing to say.
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The Talmud is written in Hebrew and Aramaic, and exists in two versions: the vastly studied Babylonian Talmud, compiled by scholars in Mesopotamia (Babylonia) around 500 CE, as well as the Jerusalem Talmud, compiled earlier, around 400 CE, but much shorter, incomplete and in consequence, for centuries studied less ...
THE CORRUPTION OF THE BOOK OF THE ISRAELITES IS WHEN THE RIBBIS WROTE THE TALMUD !
The historicity of hajar aswat’s movement from Petra, the old Mecca, to the current Mecca in Saudi is confirmed by Dan Gibson’s study of qiblat’s direction change.
Imagine of real archaeologist got chance to unearth mecca 😂
Why would they bother?
What would they find other than more dirt?
Sufficient is the dirt found in the Quran and Hadith.
They did when Majidil Haram was built in 2008.
Muslims will never permit that.
@@defenderoftruth3212 really? All this is waiting for me?
It’s a shame you could not challenge my comment by providing archaeological evidences of Islams veracity?
Let’s have it right, what statement in the Quran with reference to history has been proven true?
Let’s look at an account in chapter 18 of Quran.
Dhul qurnain, who was he?
Dhul qurnains giant brass covered iron wall, where is it?
How did he build the wall?
Why have no Muslims ever launched an expedition to find the wall?
Face the facts, there’s more truth in the statement “the moon is made of cheese” than this account being true. So, I will gladly suffer with your allahs punishments if proven wrong.
But we both know I will not be proven wrong though you be proven nothing more than a blind Muslim by rote
Nice
Amazing as always, I might have missed the topic regarding the movements of the black stone, probably from previous episodes, is it possible for any one to provide the names or the documents or books mentioning the move all the way to the south? Thank you as this will help me with a case I have right now with regards to my own research
Wonderful and surprising informations!
Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. Hagar was an Egyptian and Ishmael married an Egyptian. Egyptians were descended from Ham.
Abraham and Isaac were descended from Shem. Thus the early Christians were descended from Shem until gentiles converted.
Rabbi Manis Friedman,suggested that the first Jew was Prophet Isaac and thats due to his mother Saria,and Abram/Abraham was not a Jew.
The fact still stands that Isaac was the true inheritance of the promise and not Ishmael though Ishmael will be blessed not the true son of Abraham And Sara, Isaac was Ishmael was born of Sara's maiden servant, so they have it backwards from the get go, And Moses was raised by the Pharaoh's daughter but did not learn and follow all their false Deities and traditions of men.
100 % agree on that
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I ain't in disagreement that godly line is from Prophet Isaac.
Ps.off topic.A Rabbi at site called
Blessed is Ha'Shem The G_d of Israel,and vid called "difference between Gypsies and Jews".
That Rabbi suggested that Holy Torah actually says that Sarah was 9 and not 99 when she had the birth of Prophet Isaac.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9P.S... I don't listen or follow any Jewish Rabbi except YESHUA
The man that created Islam must have full knowledge of Judaism and Christianity. The person must be educated not as Koran claimed that Muhammad is unlearned.
May the Lord save our friends in islam in Jesus name amen.
@@defenderoftruth3212you know God creates free choice
@@defenderoftruth3212so what is the Mistake that the Bible have different language ?
Open your eyes there are many people speak different language
There is no one truth language
There is no one truth country
There is no one true government
So don't follow Babylon
@@defenderoftruth3212if your Allah is real
Where is mention Allah created good thing and bad thing
If you say Allah never created Bad,Sin,Evil,Mistake,Pain
Which means Allah don't know the hour coming
@@defenderoftruth3212The man in question was not born again, he doesn't have personal experience with the Lord Jesus Christ, he was in priesthood maybe for financial gain. he was not a true believer in Jesus Christ.
Anyone that follow Islam shall end up in hell fire, because it is a religion created in falsehood, lies hypocrisy and propaganda. And Koran is full of heresies and fallacies.
Friend, to come out from such religion is the best for you and embrace true righteousness produced by the blood of Jesus Christ, and your Soul shall be blessed in this world and hereafter.
Truth is Islams kryptonite
as if you know the Truth Al Haqq
Why didn't Paul get along with the apostles?
None of the answers thus far have it quite right, assuming that “the apostles” means the disciples (students) of Jesus, his inner circle who followed him during his lifetime.
Paul was a later convert, who claimed his authority as an apostle (evangelist) based on a visionary encounter with Jesus after Jesus’ death. We know from Paul’s letters that not all of the disciples and their followers had complete faith in that claim, so there was some suspicion right off the bat.
Paul also introduced a new idea to the Christian sect. He noticed something about the apocalyptic scriptures upon which the Christian Jews - because at that time Christianity was a Jewish sect - based their views of Jesus. It was written that when the Kingdom of God was established, all nations would worship the one true God. This meant that some Gentiles would have to be saved from the wrath of God at the End of Days. So he set about on a mission to convert Gentiles to Christianity - without converting them to Judaism - which he believed had to occur before Jesus would return as the Son of Man.
The pillars at the mother church accepted this on the condition that Paul’s Gentile congregations contribute to their fund for the poor in Jerusalem. But James in particular never got fully on board. He insisted, for instance, that Jewish Christians not eat with Gentile Christians. For Paul, the denial of table fellowship was abhorrent, since all were equal in Christ. There is widespread confusion about this point, by the way. Many people believe that Paul thought all Christians were not bound by the law, but that is not accurate. He and the disciples agreed that Jews should keep the covenant. The disagreements were over whether or not Gentile Christians should keep the Law (i.e., convert to Judaism).
Paul, for example, reported that Peter would eat with his Gentile congregations unless any of James’ followers were present, at which point he would go eat with them separately. But Paul didn’t just think that Gentile Christians shouldn’t convert to Judaism and keep the Law by keeping kosher and (for men) being circumcised. He insisted that they must not do it. Not only because of the scriptural prophecies but also because it was not the Law that offered salvation. Rather it was election by the holy spirit based on faith in Jesus’ resurrection. So for Gentiles to feel that they had to covert, well, this was a lack of faith in salvation by the blood of Christ alone, and following through with it would cost them their salvation. His battle with the James faction over that point was quite heated.
So in sum, there were 3 key points of contention between Paul and at least some of the disciples:
The validity of Paul’s claim regarding his encounter with Jesus and therefore his authority as an apostle;
The validity of Paul’s interpretation of scripture, holding that unconverted Gentiles would be saved;
The question of whether Paul’s congregations of Gentile (pagan) Christians could share table fellowship with Jewish Christians without defiling the Jews.
Bullshit
The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology
As I’m again working on some of these early catholic unitarians, I thought I’d re-post this talk I gave in May of 2013, at the Theological Conference in Atlanta. (Here are the slides if you want to click through them as you listen.) This was just before I started the podcast. The paper moves quickly through some big names of pre-Nicene catholic Christianity. I show that they were to a man unitarians, and not trinitarians, as many would prefer to believe. This has been pointed out in some detail before, in the 17th century, in the 18th century, and again in the 19th century. On the whole, the trinitarian tradition prefers not to hear the detailed case for this. It raises too many uncomfortable questions. This is why they keep forgetting or covering up these facts.
Since this talk I have continued to work in more depth on Tertullian, resulting in this podcast and this published paper.
God willing, a revised version of this talk will be a chapter in a future book.
Many thanks to Sharon and Dan Gill for recording and editing this. See their 21st Century Reformation website for many helpful unitarian Christian resources. You can download the video or audio of this talk there.
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Go to website trinities.org
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If the theory suggesting that the Kaaba was originally located in Petra turns out to be true, it opens up the possibility for some unconventional speculation. Could the Battle of Badr, known in Arabic as 'حرب البدر', actually be referring to a battle that took place in Petra? I'm noting here the absence of the /p/ sound in Arabic, where words containing the sound /p/ are pronounced with the sound /b/, and the sound /p/ is represented using the letter 'ب'.
Very fascinating 🤔🤔
I’m confused. It goes too fast. Are there multiple rocks? Where does the rock in Mecca come from?
There are many scholars who established the truth of Islam and special importance of makkah etc. Quoting some who want to prove otherwise have been and can be refuted.
Dear sir, please allow me to write: What is the meaning of the Kaaba? We say Ka'b al-Ahbar (the name of a Jewish character who converted to Islam at the time of the Prophet). Any man to whom the rabbis return and learn from him is the center of the news and the focal point of the news. Likewise, the Kaaba is the place to which people go to worship God and perform Hajj. The Kaaba is the center and focus of Islamic places for worshiping God. The Qur’an says that the Kaaba is the first house on earth. People worship God there and pray and communicate with God there. The Kaaba did not take its name from the geometric shape of a cube, but it took the name because it is the focus and center of worship. Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them, rebuilt it among the Samaritan Jews who believed in the first books of Moses (5) holy books. They say that Ishmael was the one who built the Kaaba. Books What is sacred to the Samaritans is older than the sacred books of the Jews. Is the Black Stone sacred? Of course not. It is a unique stone that people placed at the Kaaba so that they would know the number of times they circumambulated around the Kaaba (circles). However, many Muslims sanctified it. I am a Muslim. I consider the sanctification of the Black Stone to be a remnant of the paganism that entered the Muslims historically. The Qarmatians stole this stone and said that it was ancient paganism before recovering it from them. The strongest group of Muslims, Ptolemy, in the second century AD, mentioned Mecca in his writings. The Babylonians, two thousand years before the birth of Christ, mentioned Mecca as (Makkurba). In ancient history, there is Mecca. Some researchers said it was the name of a god, but what is surprising is that Arab historians did not mention his name as a god. They mentioned the names of all... The ancient gods in the region did not mention Maqah. Other researchers say that (Maqah) is a phonetic derivation of Lal Mek = for the god of Mecca, as is the case with (Baalbek Baal Bek) (Babylon Bab El) (Bilqis Baal Qais) Heodotus is a famous historian who lived before Christ 438 after the return of the Jews from The Babylonian captivity, as the legend says. Some say he was Syrian, others say he was a Greek. He wrote about the region and did not mention Jerusalem, nor did he mention Israel or the Jewish religious community. Should we deny the existence of the Jews because Herodotus did not mention them in his writings? The same is the case with Mecca. It did not appear suddenly in history. Greetings to you. I wish happiness and peace for humanity.
Thank you for your search for truth.
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 96:
إِنَّ أَوَّلَ بَيْتٍ وُضِعَ لِلنَّاسِ لَلَّذِي بِبَكَّةَ مُبَارَكًا وَهُدًى لِّلْعَالَمِينَ
Most surely the first house appointed for men is the one at Bekka, blessed and a guidance for the nations.
(English - Shakir)
via iQuran
Let us all accept the fact that Abraham is not exclusive to any faith group. He is an important figure in the Jewish Tanakh, which Christians call the Old Testament [OT], the Christian scriptures which they call the New Testament [NT] and the Muslim scripture, which I refer to as the Holy Qur’an [HQ]. The Bible tells us in Genesis 11:28 that Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans in Mesopotamia. Today he would be called an Iraqi. The three faiths, widely known as the Abrahamic faiths, are very closely related. It is no surprise therefore that there are passages in the Bible itself that tell us of the connection between Abraham and Mecca where the Kaaba is.
2- We learn from Genesis 21:14-21 that "Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy [Ishmael]. She [Hagar] went on her way and wandered in the desert of Beersheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. Then she went off and sat down nearby, about a bowshot away, for she thought, “I cannot watch the boy die.” And as she sat there nearby, she began to sob. God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt”
3- Muslims regard the Paran of Mecca to be where Hagar cried for water for her son Ishmael, and the well of zamzam in Mecca as the miraculous well that saved Ishmael's life and consider it sacred for that reason. Furthermore, Mecca is referred to by its ancient name Bacca in both the Muslim scripture (HQ 3:96) and in the Bible (Psalm 84:5-6) HQ 3:96 says, “The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka; full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings.” While Psalm 84:5-6 reads, “Blessed is the man whose strength is in You, whose heart is set on pilgrimage. As they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a spring…” The sacred ‘spring’ of the well of Zamzam in Bacca/Mecca is well known.
4- Although the question only mentions Abraham here’s what HQ 2:127 says “And as Abraham was raising the foundations of the house, and Ishmael, [they prayed:] 'O our Sustainer! Accept Thou this from us: for, verily, Thou alone art all-hearing, all-knowing!’” So we can see that according to the HQ it wasn’t just Abraham alone who built the Kaaba as one might conclude from the question but it was Ishmael as well. The Bible verses I quoted concern the move of Ishmael from the home where he was born to a new home in the valley of Mecca. Hagar was still Abraham’s legal wife and Ishmael his firstborn. So Abraham was the head of two households, the second one of them being in Mecca.
5- The Kaaba (a cubic building and possibly the origin of the word cube) is a box of a building draped with black fabric embroidered in gold with verses from the HQ This “black box” is the symbol of oneness in the religion of the one God, and is the centre of focus for Muslims throughout the world and is what they face in all their prayers wherever in the world they are.
6- Mecca is also the birthplace of Prophet Mohammed and where he lived for about 53 years. It is here that he started preaching Islam at age 40. Pagans in control of Mecca tried everything to stop him, from offers of bribes to actual persecution, exile/open prison in the desert, torture and the murder of followers.
3:54 when Al Fadi said he is playing devils advocate he meant it 😂
That is not the Temple mount but the ruins of Ft. Antonia ( Roman ). The Temple was on the Ophel ( northerly extension of Mt. Zion ) and over the only source of stream water for 5 miles ( Gihon spring).
There’s no other religion where the sight of a little girl playing with dolls leads to a marriage contract and all the adults around him say “perfectly fine”.
We, as Muslims, kiss the Black Stone because there is a hadith that says that the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, kissed him. We follow the Messenger. We do not worship the Black Stone. We worship the Creator. Kissing him is evidence of following the Prophet only. The Black Stone is not mentioned in the Qur’an. Do not take advantage of this matter to attack a religion based solely on the worship of the Creator.😊
The black stone is a Shiva Lingam which was broken and replaced a few years after Mohhameds death by rival brigands. Your Kabaa was a ancient Vedic Dharmic Temple. The 360 'buts' or idols that were destroyed were the 360 deities of signifying 360 days of the ancient hindu luni solar calender and each denoted the transit of the sun round the year about this creation on earth whose origin and also of all life is represented as the Shiva Lingam.
Why do you think you do 7 anticlockwise cycles there ? It is a copy and reverse form of 7 clockwise Cycles around the fire or deity esp Shiva lIngam in the Northern hemisphere for all dharmic practices. you may check the clockwise and anticlockwise flow of fluids on earth depending in hemisphere.
All abrahamic faiths from Judaism Christianity and Islam are hotch potch half understood misplaced cheap material copies of some basic dharmic ideas that travelled to mid east through arab and indian traders that came and went from western coast of india. even the Jewish symbol of 6 pointed star is a copied symbol of the hindu Shiva Shakti symbol. Why do you think the Nazis who were anti semetic used the Swastika as a counter symbol and which is a hindu symbol used as a complementary philosophical representation with respect to the Shiva Shakti symbol.
the 7 heavens are a poor mans or kids infantile understanding of hindu Saptalokas or 7 levels of Creation based on 7 major frequencies or states of existence of the consciousness that percieves creation. this is even represented in the human body as the 7 major chakras of determinants of state of existence.
The Ibrahim of Islam or Abraham of Judaism and Christianity has a wife Sara. Abraham and Sara are very menial cpoies of Hindu Brahma and Saraswati.
And these symbols, practices and philosophies existed long before even Judaism was born leave alone Christianity or Islam.
they are just a lot of imagined cooked up bad fairy tales for mental kids.
This is what happens when illiterate desert nomads or commodity traders cut copy paste things beyond their comprehension, cook up mumbo jumbo around it, present it as word of god and enforces it through fear of death for control of people for political aims. Arguments about wether shit is yellow or brown. LoL
Without Taqiya (lies) Islam dies.
I’m a little surprised that you didn’t bring up the Roman Cult of Cybele and how that may have influenced the black stone tradition in Islam
Kaaba means direction of worship. The first Kaaba was instructed to be the one in Jerusalem. Safa and Marwa is in Saudi, when Hajar was searching for water, baby Ismael was thirsty and began knocking his foot on the ground and she kept saying zam zam which means stop. Allah then caused water to gush out which we call zam zam water today. During this time there was no civilization, no people, neither did the Kaaba exist. Ibrahim was ordered to leave Jerusalem with Sarah by Allah, Hajar was their helper, Sarah couldn’t fall pregnant so she told Ibrahim that he should go with Hajar because she was fertile . The black stone doesn’t come from a meteorite, geologists ran multiple tests on it and confirmed that it is in fact not a meteorite and the geologists are not even Muslim. It’s also realistically unreasonable concluding facts based on references that you don’t understand. You also can’t use historians to verify your thesis because they use science to identify timeline when timeline is not finite in Islam as the variation of time accelerates over time.
Spend some time researching the life of the Roman emperor Elagabalus and his pet rock. Some of the coins minted during his reign even have pictures of it. He brought the rock to Rome from Syria, and after his assassination it was shipped back to Syria. It was rediscovered some time later by some Arab tribes, and eventually it found its way to Mecca.
Is it possible to have the source about Josephus Flavius and safa and marwa?
The prophet (pbuh) was illiterate Mecca was a trade center before the arrival of the prophet. Mecca is referenced in the Quran in several places.
Have you looked at a map?
mecca was never and could never have been a trade centre. Centre of what? Between what city and which other city? Between what empire and and which other? If there was ever a perfect example of a town where the only visitors would be local it is mecca. No important resources, no port, no fertile lands, not between anywhere important, rocky difficult terrain, surrounded only by poverty and bandits.
No-one at all was trading in mecca except bedouin.
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When you say except the Bedouin that means you agreed that they are traders.
So Mecca is a trade centre.
Alhamdulillah blessings for Islam
@@syedosyedo6626brainwashed pagan
Leviticus Chapter 26 and verse 1. " ' You must not set up a curved image or sacred pillar for yourselves, and you must not PUT A STONE FIGURE IN YOUR LAND IN ORDER TO BOW DOWN TOWARD IT ' " FOR I AM JEHOVAH YOUR GOD. PERIOD!!
@@defenderoftruth3212 It speaks for itself, why? Is it a bitter pill for you to swallow.. Look at the reply., ."Lets not forget that worshipping a magic pole or rock is paganism"
Genesis marucalus well gushed out for ishmael, location please?
Never heard about a kaaba in Jerusalem (the holy of holiest was square, but they did not circumambulated it).
But we do have a sevenfold circumambulation in the Bible with the defeat of Jericho. So that rite during the Haaj is a mightly large coincidence if not lifted from some Jewish sect's traditions somewhere.
@@RoninofRamen I wondered about Jerusalem, what has Jericho to do with it?