Elden Ring Lore - D, The Hunter & D, The Beholder
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Two bodies joined by 1 soul. A brother of Gold and a brother of Silver. Today we discuss D, Hunter of the Dead, and his brother D, Beholder of the Dead. Who are they, and what is their place in Elden Ring?
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D the Beholder is pretty crazy after he kills Fia. Some might even say D's nuts.
HA GOT EEM!!!!
More like D-dead, because i eviscerated him
You call him crazy, I call him based.
I'm mad at myself i didnt get this until i read the first reply 🤣
He is.
Devin lowkey just said "Yo momma dead" to a eldritch god 💀
And then died immediately afterward. The metaphysical equivalent of a mic drop.
He was too based for this world
@@dulcimartins1446that's why he left the armor after completing his Job so that the Tarnished can become Giga Based and starting T-posing dominance in the lands between.
Pretty sure Miquella is all about unalloyed gold, not silver, but the above ground/below ground theory could be fine
St.Trina is associated heavily with silver
Edit: I see what you mean now, I wonder where he got unalloyed silver from
look, I love Elden Ring lore videos. but when you make a mistake as big as Miquella being associated with Unalloyed SILVER - you gotta go back to the drawing board and analyze how you write your videos and theories.
ST. TRINA!??
Yeah that was a catastrophical mistake lol :’)
@@ExpandDong420 miquella is unalloyed gold cuz unalloyed gold represent pure gold or in real world equal to 24 karat gold which is the purest form of gold. He want to create pure order so he create the age of unalloyed gold, also this type of gold can cure his sister melania, blade of miquella rot affliction.
so yeah, I think his silver stuff is kinda weird.
Can we all agree that this might be one of the most unique armor sets FromSoft has made ? It’s so nice
Absolutely
It’s seriously my favorite armor ever in any of their games it’s a beautiful fusion of greco roman art and medieval armor it’s just perfect.
I love how Devin is giving off Alfred vibes after killing Fia.
I mean Elden Ring does the well-spoken initially but soon insane characters quite well with Shabriri's monologue being an example
@@discipleofdagon8195 More like Shabriri's DIE-alogue, amirite?
What's interesting is that when Devin is standing over Fias body, he is actually using the silver part of the armor. I though that the gold part was just D leaning back to look up at Godwyn, but it seems like it's actually sort of hanging limp as the silver part looks down at Fias corpse
Yo I actually like that observation a lot
Woah nice eye
omg thats especialy sad since the gold armor is still holding him and basking in the light
Don't forget that when you revive D the Beholder, he will then help you as a summon against the Twin Gargoyles nearby. So it's not like you don't see him again, though you don't really see him much.
D the Hunter is also available as a summon against the Black Knife Assassin who holds the Black Knifeprint that is part of all of their questlines.
I swear it’s so much I haven’t seen in this game
If you do the FIA quest line you will see him again.
How did you get him as a summon there??
@@guesswho1047 Do Fia's quest line until she kills D in the Roundtable hold. Then you will get his armor.
Take the armor to D's brother and give it to him. When you reload the area next, his gold summon sign will be by the boss door.
@@SgtBuffagor 😊 thanks I got him there (at the twins) I meant at the Black Knife Assassin I didn't remember a summon sign there. I've taken my time & trying to explore everything so I am just at the end game now & I keep reading about how a bunch of NPCs were available as summons & I never saw them. Want to know what I did wrong in case I decide to NG+
Appreciate the reply!
D's Helmet is among the best pieces of fashion in the game
The whole armor for me.
Nights Calvary
Clean Rot knight
Twin D's Armor
Lionel Armor
Radahn Armor.
are my current favs
Its ironic how Godwyn used to be the most illustrious example of the embodiment of the Golden Order and is now stuck in an eternal duality of being dead in spirit but not body. Its ironic because the D twins are stuck in their own duality while Radagon and Marika are stuck in theirs. I'm also curious how Godwyn is even capable of an agenda that spreads deathblight the way it has been without a soul or conscious behind it.
Because your soul being dead, doesn't mean you don't have one. The Lands Between has it's own definition of death.
My theory is that Godwyn is less being alive in death and more Life in Death. Same to Those who Live In Death. Life, Death and Rebirth don't necessarily mean what we are used to them meaning
They formed a band the likes of which has never been seen. And they called themselves Tenacious D.
He he
The beholder is gold with eyes to see and arms to cast incantation. The hunter has the Silver arm to hold the sword, and blindfolded exterminating those who live in death is blind
9:20 Another point in the direction that Devin likely committed suicide after killing Fia is that he repeats Darian's last rites towards the corpse you find him over in Limgrave ("Honeyed rays of gold, deliver this spirit") in reference to himself ("Honeyed rays of gold, deliver *my* spirit"), while also talking like he'll see Darian again soon.
The silver and gold division is a reference to alchemy which had gold as the radiance of the sun and masculinity and silver as the moon, feminine and delicate which fromsoft references alchemy a lot on their games both in the regular sense and also on jungian psychology
I like the centipede terminology around those who live in death
Because, centipede's where what made things immortal in Sekiro
Also something to note(I don't know if you need to give him the armor set first) but you can summon D the beholder of death when you go to fight the valiant gargoyle boss fight right beyond where he sits at the balcony, idk if thus has any involvement to the lore of D, but I like to think it's an effort made by him as it's what his brother would have done as defeating this boss grants you access to the nameless eternal city and also where godwyn lays, another amazing lore video, I always love to here your guys takes on things
You do have to give him the armor in order to summon him
I always felt bad for the D Twins.
Sure they serve the Golden Order, but they seem like decent people outside their zealotry and their tragic fates.
Too bad Fia simps and Order haters constantly rip at them.
Yea the game allows you to summon both brothers for boss fights and the only way to battle them is if you purposely go out of your way to attack them first
❌To simp for Fia
❌To hate the Golden Order
☑️To restore the cycle of death and rebirth.
Tbh it's better to not give him the armor to break the cycle of retributions. D was indoctrinated, Fia wants her kind to be left alone, D's brother seeks revenge and is likely to follow his brothers' footsteps.
@@Kirkland-Consumer and Fia murders D leading to little D (hehe) going Albert from bloodborne levels of ballistic on Fia
@@froilanflorentino1252 little kids simp. Chads understand loss.
@@skyfallen2775 Loss goes both ways
I felt so bad when I gave him the dagger smh. Damn you Fia
Wish their quest was more in depth. Such interesting characters.
Though you could day that for all of the characters.
Seeing this video really has me thinking about Godwyn and Miquella's relationship now and in the DLC
D is a mimic that split in two during the creation process, one soul two bodies.
Man the characters in this game are so good and highly detailed it’s awesome
Hear me out. Made my new favorite character on Elden Ring, wore the D armor, but put Haslow's helmet on it. It looks SICK
I don't think the twins could have been fascinated by Marika and Radagon because they shared a soul. Rather, I think that if they had known that sculptor wouldn't have needed to hide it as the terrible secret that it was..
I think you are onto something when you associate Derrik with the eternal cities. Both mercury and silver in alchemy represent the liquid state, femininity and passiveness, which derrik embodies both in his depiction in the twinner armor set and in his passiveness in game. And obviously the eternal cities are associated with silver and mercury and by extension femininity, passiveness and liquid as well, (quite literally in the latter case).
The thing that doesn't line up is the fact that Nokron is fundamentally opposed to the golden order right? They were banished underground due to their ideology or something like that.
@@danielboyd7810 They exist outside of the guidance of grace so they were banished by the greater will, yes.
But one of the big themes of elden ring is taking two diametrically opposed things and combining them to create perfection, similar to transmutation in alchemy.
@@danielboyd7810 Like for example, radagon and marika marrying is taking a white queen of silver and a red king of sulfur and combining them in marriage to create somethign perfect: the empyrean ranni. And later radagon marries marika, a queen of eternal city descend, a white queen of mercury, to create two more empyreans.
@@SophiaLilithUwU I don’t think I agree entirely, so I’ll explain my view.
The “perfect” beings in an alchemical sense are unions of man and woman in one body, such as Marika and Radagon. Historically this is known as The Rebis.
This isn’t shown in empyreans outside of perhaps Miquella/St Trina, who is heavily implied to also be a Rebis.
Goldmask’s quest line, however, directly implies that the flaw in the golden order, and the cause for the current world state is that very being itself. The union of Marika and Radagon is what resulted in one half destroying the Elden ring, and the other trapping themselves inside of the Erdtree in an attempt to extend the current order.
That is also mirrored within the story of Miquella/St Trina, the Haligtree and the current state of their order, though that story involves much more conjecture.
@@doublerainbowXBOX Oh yeah i should have clarified that the empyreans were close to perfection but ultimately failiures. Perfection cannot be reached within the golden order due to the absence of fire within it, which is important for alchemical processes too. Marika's children with radagon are closer to perfection than her children with godfrey, who were cursed or other wise unwanted by her, with miquella being closest to a rebis as you said, but ultimately they were failiures too, which is why imo, marika shattered the elden ring and called back the tarnished to bring fire back to the lands between.
This channel is awesome. Not only is the production quality great, but they actively listen to the community. I suggested this topic not even ten days ago and we already have a full lore video on it
When you realize that the reason D and his Brother are accepted by the Golden Order is because they have the same condition as Marika and Radagon...
Presumably it's the exact inverse. Marika and Radagon are 2 souls in 1 body. D&D are 1 soul in 2 bodies.
one of the best designed armor
I love it but the head sticking out ruins the armor for me. When you hold your sword with two hands you basically carry it above your head. If it wasn’t for that it would probably be the best looking in the game. For me anyway.
I love how the picked up the idea of Lautrec the embraced's armor set and turned this into twins / Brothers.
I'm still upset that we never got more Lautrec lore in DS3, but this armour set is almost my consolation prize as a longtime Lautrec Shotel boi.
@@thepancakemann i can 100% relate to that !!!
Devin immediately help you with the gargoyle fight btw
Yas new video of d the hunter and his twin brother!!! I love every lore of elden ring in this channel!
Silver is the colour of the Nox my man, behold the silver tears. This fits since D is in that area, also I think we just saw D being very pale. D are numen imo.
So one is gold because he’s of the golden order, one is silver because they are numen
Wouldn’t the silver thing be better associated with the night folk then numens because they were said to once have bled silver
@@elizabethgouverneur2972 well those ancenstors were probably made by the numen from silver tears, but they could be if their skin tone is similar :P
The D actually stands for disrespectful💀
Seriously why is he insulting Fia so much😭 she’s already dead
My brother in christ she just killed his twin 💀
She killed his brother and also represents everything he stands against
Because she deserved it?
@@wraithlord9879 It's hard to say who deserved to be killed by who. The struggle between Those Who Live in Death and the followers of the Golden Order is reminiscent of politics in real life where each party has its own agenda.
@@kevinclement1533 Fia is a leftist ( evil ) and D is a conservatist ( good)
Gotta do one of these videos on the Carian Knights one day
You have a calm and beautiful voice , always a pleasure to hear your lore videos, you should work on audiobooks too
Thank you so much, I'd love to break into VO work or audiobooks but I don't even have the first clue of how one would do that.
Interesting story.. I honestly can say that I dont recall ever encountering them. I completed Fias questline so technically I had to but they were so hands off that they were unmemorable.
So thanks for helping to fill in a spot of the story I missed. Given my maxed out run through of 999h 59m 59s that is impressive to still have missed something like this.
I also never met Rogier either so...
one of my fav characters in the game, def worth a revisit
That's crazy, Rogiers story is awesome. He's actually the very first summonable NPC in the game. He can help with Margit.
@@square-table-gaming Yeah I am puzzled why I never encountered him. I really didnt deviate much from the standard path either. Only odd thing I did early on was I gutted Gostoc for funsies and Boggart because I wasnt about to give him 1k out of my 100k souls I was carrying around. Well that and sullying the honor of the best Maiden in the game.
Maybe word of me being an ass spread and he hid :D
you genuinely weren't paying attention if you did not know about any of these characters after almost 1000 hours playing.
@@archite001 A: the clock stops at 999h59m59s. My play through is considerably longer. Just have no way of knowing how much longer. I have dug extensively into the game and the lore. Filling out the world map and learning as I went.
B: D I did notice in RTH passing by him but I know he never said anything interesting and it never changed until I was wrapping up Fias quest line. I never encountered him outside of RTH.
It wasnt for lack of attention. Its much more likely credit to how utterly massive the game really is and just simply never crossing paths with him.
I never even knew of Rogiers existence until I was in the Hailag tree and only randomly encountered a video on the dude. I have no clue why I never encountered him. Only thing I can possibly think of is that I started playing in April. I played on Version 1.00 until some glitch at the foot of Selia town forced me to patch the game to 1.04 which is the patch my game is on now.
So make of that what you will.
Thank brother, your videos are art.
Thank you! High praise right here
Just a thought I had when listening: In chemistry and more specifically biochemistry, D is often used to denote Dexter (or right handed). It’s counter part is L for leaxus (or left handed). These are used to denote chiral molecules (amino acids mostly). Most importantly, a molecule can be the exact same as its mirror image, having all the same atoms and properties, the only difference being its right or left handed chirality.
(Often denoted as R and S as well. D and L came from biologists originally I believe). Just a thought because it mimics the idea of two things that are the exact same yet separate, I wonder if there is any references to an L version of the two!
Or as I like to call them. D's nuts. Works cuz they're both a little crazy. Especially the second one
I always thought Devin was Darrian’s mimic
“With all your insides on the outside”
“For all the world to see”
awesome stuff! keep up the great work
Gold and silver like marika radagon elden ring and silver tear hence alloyed gold (mixed)
It's hard to binge watch all the videos when you spend so much time thanking and asking to subscribe in the beginning
Watch the compilation of year 1. It's been cut from all of them in the intros. Year 2 is going to do the same thing and will be out very soon.
Our compilations remove that from the beginning of every video
Nobody made a “D’s nuts” joke yet?
I have wondered since my first playthrough the circumstances by which Darian acquired Godwyn's hallowbrand. We get Ranni's hallowbrand on her corpse(body), leaving it unclear if Godwyn's was present on his body or soul.
Either Darian or Devin had direct dealings with Godwyn's body (weathered dagger), but maybe some fragment of Godwyn's soul appeared in Gurranq after consuming enough deathroot, on which his hallowbrand appeared. Darian then took this and ended dealings with Gurranq.
This theory could also explain the extensive presence of deathroot in Farum Azula. Anyway would love to hear some thoughts on this hallowbrand as it is integral to Rogier and Fias quest, and I have not seen much disscussion of it. Much love Square Table❤️
I love your guys' videos, much love from Kazakhstan
D the Hunter was a loyal knight that was willing to Bear the responsibility of hunting down those who live in death, well his bother D the beholder never really had the strength to bear this duty so his brother carried him on his long Hunts.🐱
Correct me if im wrong but i think D, the Beholder shares certain similarities with Alfred, Hunter of Vilebloods
Saw the Cohryn video before this one, and now I'm wondering... Would D try to kill Goldmask if he learned of the imperfections of the Golden Order? Or would it be like Rogier describes, where he just flips out and possibly feels pity for him?
D could go either way. His purpose is to hunt those who live in death because they live outside of the golden order. It's possible he could be on goldmasks side. It's likely his version of the order would still reject those who live in death.
@@square-table-gaming I suppose Goldmask doesn't acknowledge Those Who Live in Death, so I guess it's flexible enough for them to be forbidden. I usually assume that in most endings, your Tarnished rules depending on what your stance is on everything in the Lands Between.
Great video keep it up! Could you do one on Alexander and the other jars, could be interesting.
maybe a video on the Godskins? Some1 has translated they OST and it is pretty revealing (who the gloam eyed queen and st trina is supposed top be)
Devin sounds a bit too excited to kill Fia.
Why is he disrespecting Godwyn? Isn't he supposed to be the first of the golden lineage?
Yes, however he now lives in death, which is an afront to the golden order.
@@square-table-gaming wasn't he also, well, dead? Unconscious?
@@rekoken2911 his soul never returned to the Erdtree, it "lives in death," which is against the order.
@@square-table-gaming poor Godwyn probably just wants to get resurrected
The beholder of the dead is a mimic tear one of the few successful ones in the world
Does this mean we will see them again in the DLC in the world of shadow? I hope so.
Not a chance. Their quest ultimately ends in the Lands Between
Fia had it coming
Gold/Silver. Est/West. Radagon/Marika. Maliketh/Gurranq
AWW YEE BOI NEW LORE DROPPED
When I heard the name Darien while playing the game I froze in place as that’s my name shits crazy
داريان و ديفن ، الصياد و المٌشاهد ❤
How about try explaining the Spirit Ashes?
Waltuh...
You expect me to subscribe when the first ad rolls in before 2 minutes?
Only if you like the content, that's why we say "please consider." Also, we use standard YT ad practices. They don't trigger every time you watch.
Very cool video! Thank you! How does D have a younger brother if they are twins? Maybe mistranslation from original Japanese?
Usually twins consider one of them older and one younger. Typically whosever came out first is considered older and Rogier would know which is which due to his and D's friendship
Biologically one of them came out first
What the guys above said, OR could be because one was created later
tf is unalloyed silver?
A typo
11:08
Isn't it unalloyed gold?
Yes! That's a flub on our part. That said, those attached to silver are drawn to miquella as their savior
@@square-table-gaming that is true, as they were drawn to St. Trina. Which of course is Miquella.
Either way, keep up the great work. Ima be honest i usually ignore all souls lore videos besides Vaati's but your guy's are great, clearly time and thought put into it.
Im tuning in to them every second i get the notifications lol
@@sabastjanadams1829 that means a lot. I work really hard on these and it's seriously a treat whenever a viewer tells us how much they dig the content.
@@square-table-gaming of course man, i feel the same. I love it when Content creators actively interact with their audience. Definitely makes me more intwined to come back every time. And i can tell you work hard and put real effort into everything. Its great to see, especially in todays youtube age, full of no effort children's content
D is nuts...
in short...
D's nuts
Cool stuff
what is that long sword your carrying throught most of the video
I switch it up a lot in this one. Do you mean the Royal Greatsword?
After seeing D's quest playout once I now kill the Ds on sight in my subsequent playthroughs. I do not even kill patches in any of the other from software games.
Why does Fia ask to give this dagger back to D? Why cant she do it herself? And why does this lead to D's death? Does it make him any more vulnerable? And how come D has one half of the Hallowbrand in the first place? Also since there are these thorns around his corpse which are a sign of Deathroot, right, is he now also turned into One who lives in Death? Thanks!!
Fia has us give the dagger to D as a message. Basically it's used to lure him to the room where she ambushed and killed him. He may become one of those who live in death but he won't be one of fias champions since he never took on a baldachins blessing.
9:32 i do think that as well but something off for me. Are you sure he join his brother after he killed himself. Wouldn't prince of death or Those who lived in Death took his soul instead.
Get out of my labORatory!
There's also a quest where you have to find D's nuts
XD
Hey can you make a vid on stone snail the one who roam around evergaol or ever jail or whatever those things are called
They have no in game lore.
Less snail and more caterpillar.
Gaol is an old spelling for jail and pronounced the same.
The files call them live stones, a Japanese walkthrough booklet calls them lookout stones and guard stones.
Another creator did a video on them.
ruclips.net/video/pF5oSPdqGtk/видео.html
@@colddash5598 wow I never knew that! That's interesting
@@colddash5598 thanks
bro unalloyed silver???? thats such a huge mistake to make in a video im surprised u left this up, go edit that and fix it
nah, we good. Everyone knows what we mean and it'd ruin the analytics, we apologize for it in the comments.
really? miquella is tied in with unalloyed SILVER????????????? this is the one part that ruins this for me
Yup definitely a flub on our part!
@@square-table-gaming don't sweat it tho