Dear@@pastorbri, yes, homophobia rejects a *person* by conflating that person with the particular sin by which that person is tempted, and that is sinful. (We often make the mistake of calling someone "a homosexual", as though a person's identity IS that person's sexual orientation! Could anything be sillier? People are much. much more than that!) Let us reject all sin, absolutely! (Starting with our own sin!!) But... People are people -- sinners though we be -- and deserve to be loved. Second greatest Commandment, you know, is to love one another.
@@susand3668 Well we call you homophobics "Homophobics" as though a person's identity IS that person's bigotry! Could anything be sillier? People are much. much more than that! Let us reject all sin, absolutely! (Starting with our own sin!!) But... People are people -- sinners though we be -- and deserve to be loved. Second greatest Commandment, you know, is to love one another.
Dear@@pastorbri, excuse me, did you read what I wrote? My very first word was "yes" -- and the rest of what I wrote was supporting my agreement with you. Yes, absolutely, homohobia is a sin. And I know it is a sin. I just think it is silly besides. Are you okay? Not understanding that I am on your side worries me.
Wait, I only know about venial and grave sins, is there a sin rating guide I should know about? My catchiest only taught about that one unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit. Maybe I missed the part you’re talking about.
@@videonmode8649 Aw, c'mon. He's pretty clear. It's that although conservatives spend a lot of time condemning gay sex, they don't spend nearly as much time condemning adultery and fornication. That's a valid point.
AMEN!!! SO GLAD U CAME TO THE SACRAMENTS!!! I try2 bring everyone I can to healing from Jesus through the Sacraments which Jesus instituted for us to eliminate oppression from the devil and to bring us God's grace. Hallelujah. God bless you!
Why? The majority of believers operate purely on gullible credulity and psychological need. Apologetics is esoteric pseudo-intellectualism that persuades almost no one with intellectual depth and advanced education.
I recently had been messaging a self-described homosexual Catholic. I tried to show him that lust is sinful. I made sure not to differentiate between same sex lust and heterosexual lust. The fact is they are both sin. That opened him up to looking at the situation without thinking his lust was special or different. We were able to explore why all lust is bad, but God loves us all. It took a while to get him to see himself as a Catholic man who struggled with lustful attraction instead of a "gay Catholic"
so you're equating homosexuality with lust - and you even said you made sure not to differentiate between homosexual and heterosexual lust. You are confused, or just bigoted. You can be LGBT and not be lustful. Many LGBT folk are in faithful long term loving relationships. Sexuality or any form is not lust.
@@jesus_is_my_spotter and yet you seem to be unhappy that a catholic idenitified as being gay. Maybe you didn't articulate things clearly - are you saying there's nothing wrong with being LGBT?
I have to defend VeggieTales being born in 2000. Trent, VeggieTales is probably the only reason I knew as much about the Bible as I did. Yes, the tone is different. But kids still have innocence. And I naturally and gradually understood the tone of the Bible as I grew older. It's no different than gradually realizing Santa isn't real. It's something you understand as you grow out of innocence. There's nothing wrong with giving kids a basic outline of Bible stories that they'll come back to later with better understanding
@@pastorbri Lol, according to whom? Most people are naturally disgusted by same sex relations. The fact that people pretend that perversion is beautiful is far greater evidence of social indoctrination
@@pastorbriDon't worry, most of us aren't afraid of same-sex attracted people. It is better to have objection towards the disordered sinful acts instead.👍
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 No as homophobia is not a fear so I know most homophobics are not scared of LGBT....you have a love of distorted hate instead.
All of our theological problems more or less boil down to throwing out the word of God because it isn't aligned with modernity as opposed to throwing out modernity where it isn't aligned with the word of God.
In Catholicism all sexual acts outside marriage not open to life are considered sinful. The focus on homosexuality is a bit strange I think. Sleeping with your wife wearing a condom is considered sinful. Sleeping with your girlfriend is considered sinful. If you want to allow homosexuality you must first lift the law on openness to life. Probably you must also lift the notion of teleology. I don't hear too much talk about these, but specifics about homosexuality. This kind of shows me that champions of allowing homosexuality might be a bit disingenuous. Sex only being allowed with openness to life kind of gets rid of the entire homosexuality debate.
@@pastorbri what exactly is homophobia? Phobia is an irrational or pathological fear, but I doubt that this is what you mean. Do you mean that regarding homosexual acts as a sin is itself a sin?
@@cromi4194 But what are homosexual acts???? As homophobics don't even know. Is it 2 women holding hands? 2 men who hug? Is it anal sex? If yes then thats most heterosexuals stuffed but not lesbians as they don't do that......I bet even you don't know what is a homosexual act. After all, a homosexual is simply someone attracted to their own sex and an act could be anything, doing the bills or shopping. Maybe u need to re think what it is you want to condemn?
@pastorbri the catholic church teaches that having sex while chosing not to have children is a disordered act, as it contradicts the very purpose or telos of sex. The idea is that creation is structured in a perfectly meaningful way. The reason sex exists at all and is pleasurable is because of its procreative power. In a sense you could view it as a self-contradictory act to engage in sex and actively prevent procreation. The very reason why there is sex is because of procreation. You divorce it of its meaning and therefore alienate yourself from meaning itself and thus from God. Now reality is there to serve your pleasure. People who cannot have children are different, as they are not actively preventing procreation. I would assume they are still called to go to the medical professionals to try to solve the issue. But if you chose not to have children, the church demands that you live s celibate life, indeed. You frame this as a condemnation but the church would say that sex doesn't have a purpose in that case and ought to be avoided. Also you should not get married if you chose not to have children as again you divorce marriage from one of its attributes. The teaching is actually very simple and appears very coherent to me. It is very much in line with the idea to not value the worldly things as much and store treasures in heaven.
Always Remember Adoption. Many abort, thinking "If I go through pregnancy I will wish to keep the child." But remember how damaging murder, in you and of your own flesh is to the soul and an act of the worst violence against God, it is not an option. If you cannot or will not keep your child, your only other option is adoption, nad it is NOT selfish to go thta route, believe God when He says that. Amen. "Children are a reward to you from God." Give forth your child to someone God is pleased with, and He will not punish you for doing thta, at times, God uses you to bless others and to rewrad others. Amen. Please, consider this from my soul, to your soul. God is pleased with cheerful givers, He is the giver of Life and you will not kill your soul in the process, rather you will give the gift of Life in doing so. God bless you all, Amen
This is a great talk by Trent. This is very excellent. That said, there seems to be a lot of entering into tangents. If he reduced this a tad, he’d be much more succinct.
To me, these are personal choices, fir which our Heavenly Father judges, not me. I can respectfully tolerate, but I will never encourage things which conflict with the Instructions YAH expects us to follow.
No there is the Ceremonial and Moral Laws according to the New Testament. The New Testament teaches there is a New Covenant, and that Jesus fulfilled the Old. That we are still bound not to sin, and to follow His Commandments (Moral Law), but that all good is clean for example, that we don’t have to be circumcised, etc, because the Ceremonial Law no longer applies
As a Deist I think all of those laws where man made, not given by god. If they were from god and thought for all humanity god wouldnt have created humans 300k years ago, then hide 295k years to humans and then 5k years ago give those laws to a very small group of people while the planet was already full of humans.
Why doesn't our clergy get this? Have they not read the Bible or they willfully disagree with Christ & so will bow to the ruler of the world in the name of loving neighbor..very conveniently leaving the first part First love the Lord thy God with all your heart,mind & soul.
Interesting... i have always seen Lev. as a nation-building tool, and it's all about THE NUMBERS. If it weren't, why does the Book of #s immediately follow it to demonstrate how following the Lord's game plan increases yield, right? Wrt men lying w/men, simply put, it doesn't on its own yield a kiddo. (Nothing explicitly stated bout the ladies, fwiw... and strangely today we see reptiles able to reproduce without fertilization; it is increased heat that allows the embryo to proceed.) Wrt shellfish, they are BOTTOMFEEDING and thus creatures of FILTRATION - why would u want to eat that (even tho its plentiful & easy to to). Wrt mixing seeds, u see in foods that some seeds deplete soils to the detriment of others, thus yield is hurt. (Here what is not elaborated is that the INVERSE can be true, like how corn and beans grow better TOGETHER.) Let's remember that scrolls could only be so long so... condensed thought factors into the written composition...
...sorry i'm talking to myself,... But it just now occurred to me: in Shakespeare, there is comic relief because like in Titus Andronicus where Lavinia's uncle (?) interlocutes her abuse (her tongue was cut out) to the audience, was actually a moment to use props and grotesquely portray in comedy something so horrific that the emotional pressure valve was released... is there any chance Lev. acts the same way but by way of inversion? "Gee Genesis & Exodus are some heavy hitters... We need to tone it down a bit... Get scientific and cool it down with stats...or everyone's gonna lose it!! " 😂
An ok talk, but it will not help to convert one gay person to the faith. Listen to the Marian priests, and speak more from a place of love. Our mission here is to help bring people to Jesus, that they may be converted. It worked for me at least ;)
I would be inclined to agree in some sense, but to push back and say that isn't the point of this talk. This talk is to refute the trend of watering down the message of Scripture regarding this particular sin, but not to condemn or convert anybody who is struggling with the sin
Love for one's fellow man is part of the greatest commandment of all. Physical, but non sexual love between 2 males or 2 females is to be admired and encouraged. Didn't Jesus have a beloved disciple whom he entrusted his own mother to, after his death?. Such an expression of brotherly love and commitment is contained in the Sermon on the Mount aka, the essence of Christianity in action. Nothing could be more abhorrent however, than 30 million depraved men dying horrible deaths because of 100s of casual 1 night stands as Bell and Weinberg studies revealed. Nor 10s of 1000s of children suffering the same horrible fate in recent years🙏✝️
@@pastorbri I had homophobia for a few friends of mine who thought they were immuned to their partners' disease in hundreds of one night stands in the 80s. Mother nature made quite a statement in taking the lives of some 30 mill perverts. By the way, I'm also an incestophobe, beastophobe and also detest child abusers, aren't U?
I would prefer hearing information about gay people from gay people. Is that too much to ask? I love all the heterosexual men with wives and 10 kids telling gay men to never fall in love or have an intimate encounter their entire lives. Wow. The arrogance!
You are right! As a Deist I think all religions are man made subjective interpretations of a possible god/gods with man made moralities based on the knowledge and situation of the time they where written in. So the bible contains man made wisdom as much as man made fallacies: + light wasn't there before the sun + the earth wasn't there before the sun + Adam and Eve didn't exist + insects have six legs not four legs + the value of Pi isn't 3 + homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary sense + the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world + the moon doesn't produce visible light + etc etc Hopefully they understand that one day and correct that fallacies.
I know it's dangerous to assume, but would you say the same thing to a pedophile? Is it arrogant to tell a pedophile they can never have a meaningful physical encounter? I'm not being smart. I'm really asking where do you draw the line? What about sibling "love?" Trent isn't telling people. He's only relating what God is telling people.
@@motherbhaerbear3807 To make your point, you have to compare 2 consenting gay adults to a pedophile. Why not compare them to a murderer or a psychopath? Sorry, but this does not work and is called a straw man arguement. Gay men are not pedophiles.
@@willchristie2650 you can compare them to pederasty. Two consenting people, one is just older. The point is that the Bible gives instruction and limits on behavior. If you don't believe the Bible ok, that's a different argument. If you do believe it is God's word then you need to submit to it.
The man made Bible contains man made wisdom (e.g. Kain and Abel) and man made fallacies : + light wasn't there before the sun + the earth wasn't there before the sun + Adam and Eve didn't exist + insects have six legs not four legs + the value of Pi isn't 3 + homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation + the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world + the moon doesn't produce visible light + etc etc Beware of the man made fallacies in the Bible!
‘Sneaky people who like to say confusing things,’ here having the meaning of ‘people who disagree with me.’ Classy, Trent, don’t even have the guts to say James Martin, as if that would get anything besides applause.
I see your point and agree...But, I have to reflect to myself, "What does it accomplish?" by naming him? Does it not give him and his sin more attention?
Trent has several videos where he specifically discusses Fr. James Martin and his ministry. His distaste for Martin’s work is no secret. But Fr. Martin isn’t nearly the only priest who (deliberately) says confusing things regarding the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. Why single him out when it’s a much bigger problem than just one Jesuit priest? Many of the viewers likely personally know a priest who does the same thing.
Mr. Horn, I always appreciate people trying to explain the Bible to others. I am Catholic and am always trying to expand my perspectives. Unfortunately many people like you fail to understand or explain that most of the Bible can be interpreted any way a person chooses. That is particularly true of the old testament. The new testament is much more straight forward. Read the Gospel of Mathew in particular. The Sermon on the Mount clearly explains how Jesus wants people to behave. Jesus spoke at great length about Love, forgiveness and religious hypocrisy. he did not address sexual behavior.
Where does the Bible say you can interpret it as you please? And furthermore, what about 1 Corinthians 6:9, and other verses where Paul condemns such practices? Not to mention the Old Testament.
I’m not sure you know this, but the Catholic Church rejects the notion of sola scriptura. The whole point of the Magisterium’s existence is to definitively teach matters of the faith so Catholics aren’t left to interpret Scripture by themselves. The Bible was not intended to be the sole source of divine teaching.
It is easy to forget that our church does not make the rules for over 90 percent of the world. Many people read the Bible. And see things differently than you or I or our church.
@@johnhancock9384 Certainly. But that doesn’t make their interpretations correct. Especially when they directly conflict with other parts of Scripture.
We cannot pick one verse & interpret we have to take the whole Word.The greatest commandment Jesus taught us is Love the Lord thy God with all your heart,mind & soul & then love your neighbor as yourself..its not vice versa. Unless you love the Lord & follow his commandments first one cannot pretend to love their neighbor.
Horn's immodest homophobia is sickening, and his lame attempt to justify the hypocrisy of selectively drawing on OT primitivism as a guide for behavior is not at all persuasive.
This is an outstanding presentation. Kept my attention right to the end. What a gift God has given Trent. A wonderful communicator! God bless🙏
but homophobia is the sin
Dear@@pastorbri, yes, homophobia rejects a *person* by conflating that person with the particular sin by which that person is tempted, and that is sinful. (We often make the mistake of calling someone "a homosexual", as though a person's identity IS that person's sexual orientation! Could anything be sillier? People are much. much more than that!)
Let us reject all sin, absolutely! (Starting with our own sin!!) But...
People are people -- sinners though we be -- and deserve to be loved. Second greatest Commandment, you know, is to love one another.
@@susand3668 Well we call you homophobics "Homophobics" as though a person's identity IS that person's bigotry! Could anything be sillier? People are much. much more than that!
Let us reject all sin, absolutely! (Starting with our own sin!!) But...
People are people -- sinners though we be -- and deserve to be loved. Second greatest Commandment, you know, is to love one another.
U know homophobia is still a sin?
Dear@@pastorbri, excuse me, did you read what I wrote? My very first word was "yes" -- and the rest of what I wrote was supporting my agreement with you.
Yes, absolutely, homohobia is a sin. And I know it is a sin.
I just think it is silly besides.
Are you okay? Not understanding that I am on your side worries me.
The worst sin of our times is the idea that there is no such thing as sin.
Wait, I only know about venial and grave sins, is there a sin rating guide I should know about? My catchiest only taught about that one unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit. Maybe I missed the part you’re talking about.
Evil has been called good, and good evil, since Proverbs
@robertstephenson6806
What's your argument?
@@videonmode8649 Aw, c'mon. He's pretty clear. It's that although conservatives spend a lot of time condemning gay sex, they don't spend nearly as much time condemning adultery and fornication. That's a valid point.
@@saints51
Don't worry about politics. We are all sinners and those who downplay their own sins without repentance will reap what they sow.
Thank you for defending the faith, Trent. 🙏
homophobics hate truth
Homophobics defend satan
Faith is , what made the Canaanites believe in their gods and sacrifice some of their babies to them.
That is right I was a sinner, the Sacrement of reconciliation saved me from hell.
AMEN!!! SO GLAD U CAME TO THE SACRAMENTS!!! I try2 bring everyone I can to healing from Jesus through the Sacraments which Jesus instituted for us to eliminate oppression from the devil and to bring us God's grace. Hallelujah. God bless you!
Thank you, that was awesome! God bless you 🙏
So sorry we missed it! TY for releasing the talks. Trent is terrific. Apologetics are crucial right now 🙏
Why? The majority of believers operate purely on gullible credulity and psychological need. Apologetics is esoteric pseudo-intellectualism that persuades almost no one with intellectual depth and advanced education.
Loooved Hanna Barberra stories as a kid. So pleased to hear they are Trent approved 😅
Two young archeologists, Derek and Margo, and their nomad friend Mochi, suddenly find themselves trapped and sinking in a whirling pool of sand...
this is awesome thank you
I recently had been messaging a self-described homosexual Catholic. I tried to show him that lust is sinful. I made sure not to differentiate between same sex lust and heterosexual lust. The fact is they are both sin. That opened him up to looking at the situation without thinking his lust was special or different. We were able to explore why all lust is bad, but God loves us all. It took a while to get him to see himself as a Catholic man who struggled with lustful attraction instead of a "gay Catholic"
God Bless you for helping this brother see the truth. And may God continue to use you in that area.
so you're equating homosexuality with lust - and you even said you made sure not to differentiate between homosexual and heterosexual lust.
You are confused, or just bigoted.
You can be LGBT and not be lustful. Many LGBT folk are in faithful long term loving relationships.
Sexuality or any form is not lust.
@@bengreen171 I believe you misread my comment. My point is the lust itself. You can certainly be attracted to whomever and not be lustful.
@@jesus_is_my_spotter
and yet you seem to be unhappy that a catholic idenitified as being gay.
Maybe you didn't articulate things clearly - are you saying there's nothing wrong with being LGBT?
@bengreen171 it is a sin however you try to dress it up
Thank you Trent…great talk…must listen to it again….I watch animated stories of the Bible …
u know homophobia is still a sin?
Wow, very well spoken and informative! Very much needed!
Hi God bless
I have to defend VeggieTales being born in 2000. Trent, VeggieTales is probably the only reason I knew as much about the Bible as I did. Yes, the tone is different. But kids still have innocence. And I naturally and gradually understood the tone of the Bible as I grew older. It's no different than gradually realizing Santa isn't real. It's something you understand as you grow out of innocence. There's nothing wrong with giving kids a basic outline of Bible stories that they'll come back to later with better understanding
At least the old VeggieTales did.
Kids also know homophobia is a sin till religious folk lie to them
@@pastorbri Lol, according to whom? Most people are naturally disgusted by same sex relations. The fact that people pretend that perversion is beautiful is far greater evidence of social indoctrination
@@pastorbriDon't worry, most of us aren't afraid of same-sex attracted people. It is better to have objection towards the disordered sinful acts instead.👍
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 No as homophobia is not a fear so I know most homophobics are not scared of LGBT....you have a love of distorted hate instead.
You are too modest, Trent 'I go to my office and go home and I don't know much about the world...' You know far more than most.
All of our theological problems more or less boil down to throwing out the word of God because it isn't aligned with modernity as opposed to throwing out modernity where it isn't aligned with the word of God.
In Catholicism all sexual acts outside marriage not open to life are considered sinful. The focus on homosexuality is a bit strange I think. Sleeping with your wife wearing a condom is considered sinful. Sleeping with your girlfriend is considered sinful. If you want to allow homosexuality you must first lift the law on openness to life. Probably you must also lift the notion of teleology. I don't hear too much talk about these, but specifics about homosexuality. This kind of shows me that champions of allowing homosexuality might be a bit disingenuous.
Sex only being allowed with openness to life kind of gets rid of the entire homosexuality debate.
homophobia is sinful
@@pastorbri what exactly is homophobia? Phobia is an irrational or pathological fear, but I doubt that this is what you mean. Do you mean that regarding homosexual acts as a sin is itself a sin?
@@cromi4194 But what are homosexual acts???? As homophobics don't even know. Is it 2 women holding hands? 2 men who hug? Is it anal sex? If yes then thats most heterosexuals stuffed but not lesbians as they don't do that......I bet even you don't know what is a homosexual act. After all, a homosexual is simply someone attracted to their own sex and an act could be anything, doing the bills or shopping. Maybe u need to re think what it is you want to condemn?
that condemns billions olf heterosexuals then who can't or choose not to have kids.
@pastorbri the catholic church teaches that having sex while chosing not to have children is a disordered act, as it contradicts the very purpose or telos of sex. The idea is that creation is structured in a perfectly meaningful way. The reason sex exists at all and is pleasurable is because of its procreative power. In a sense you could view it as a self-contradictory act to engage in sex and actively prevent procreation. The very reason why there is sex is because of procreation. You divorce it of its meaning and therefore alienate yourself from meaning itself and thus from God. Now reality is there to serve your pleasure. People who cannot have children are different, as they are not actively preventing procreation. I would assume they are still called to go to the medical professionals to try to solve the issue.
But if you chose not to have children, the church demands that you live s celibate life, indeed. You frame this as a condemnation but the church would say that sex doesn't have a purpose in that case and ought to be avoided. Also you should not get married if you chose not to have children as again you divorce marriage from one of its attributes.
The teaching is actually very simple and appears very coherent to me. It is very much in line with the idea to not value the worldly things as much and store treasures in heaven.
Always Remember Adoption.
Many abort, thinking "If I go through pregnancy I will wish to keep the child." But remember how damaging murder, in you and of your own flesh is to the soul and an act of the worst violence against God, it is not an option. If you cannot or will not keep your child, your only other option is adoption, nad it is NOT selfish to go thta route, believe God when He says that. Amen. "Children are a reward to you from God." Give forth your child to someone God is pleased with, and He will not punish you for doing thta, at times, God uses you to bless others and to rewrad others. Amen. Please, consider this from my soul, to your soul. God is pleased with cheerful givers, He is the giver of Life and you will not kill your soul in the process, rather you will give the gift of Life in doing so. God bless you all, Amen
Steubie U, always right on top of it...
At first it was “all we want is ……. (fill in the blank)….. Once that happens. ……Then….… demand, demands….DEMANDING
have you anything tangible to accuse LGBT people of - or just vague propagandistic demonisation?
i want to get your book when it is out
Who is the priest who follows Leviticus about immigration but not about homosexuality?
J.Martin
@@MB-zn9vg Gee big surprise.....
Sadly many and they have blockaded men who disagree with them from the priesthood. +
homosexuality is not the issue there
well homophobics are simple folk @@MPFXT
3:51 for the start of the body of the speech.
So good
Comment for traction
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"... and *then* the story gets interesting..."
Glad you got off the Titanic, Trent. Since you're stable, consider trying to help those of us sinking rather than waving at us.
What do you mean?
what priest was he talking about on youtube? the one that quotes leviticus sometimes?
This is a great talk by Trent. This is very excellent. That said, there seems to be a lot of entering into tangents. If he reduced this a tad, he’d be much more succinct.
Bestiality, not beastiality. To do the act is to be bestial, not 'beastial'.
Even my auto correct, automatically corrects beastial to bestial.
Why you bashing my Veggie Tales, brah?
To me, these are personal choices, fir which our Heavenly Father judges, not me. I can respectfully tolerate, but I will never encourage things which conflict with the Instructions YAH expects us to follow.
Didn't know you're such a CHOPPA enthusiast. Haha!
Remariage after divorce is just the worst
Over and above abortion?
@@matthewthomasjames I am in jest
Adultery is pretty bad
There' is moral laws civil law spiritual laws
no there is just the old law as one
No there is the Ceremonial and Moral Laws according to the New Testament. The New Testament teaches there is a New Covenant, and that Jesus fulfilled the Old. That we are still bound not to sin, and to follow His Commandments (Moral Law), but that all good is clean for example, that we don’t have to be circumcised, etc, because the Ceremonial Law no longer applies
As a Deist I think all of those laws where man made, not given by god.
If they were from god and thought for all humanity god wouldnt have created humans 300k years ago, then hide 295k years to humans and then 5k years ago give those laws to a very small group of people while the planet was already full of humans.
4:50 isnt a very convincing argument considering all the things the Catholic Church has supported in the past
shame on everyone who didnt laugh at trents jokes😂🙃
Why doesn't our clergy get this? Have they not read the Bible or they willfully disagree with Christ & so will bow to the ruler of the world in the name of loving neighbor..very conveniently leaving the first part First love the Lord thy God with all your heart,mind & soul.
Trent not mentioning Destiny's name like its going to summon him if he does lol
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Interesting... i have always seen Lev. as a nation-building tool, and it's all about THE NUMBERS. If it weren't, why does the Book of #s immediately follow it to demonstrate how following the Lord's game plan increases yield, right? Wrt men lying w/men, simply put, it doesn't on its own yield a kiddo. (Nothing explicitly stated bout the ladies, fwiw... and strangely today we see reptiles able to reproduce without fertilization; it is increased heat that allows the embryo to proceed.) Wrt shellfish, they are BOTTOMFEEDING and thus creatures of FILTRATION - why would u want to eat that (even tho its plentiful & easy to to). Wrt mixing seeds, u see in foods that some seeds deplete soils to the detriment of others, thus yield is hurt. (Here what is not elaborated is that the INVERSE can be true, like how corn and beans grow better TOGETHER.) Let's remember that scrolls could only be so long so... condensed thought factors into the written composition...
i would also argue that the ppl of Israel stand as everlasting testimony that a Nation CAN exist without physical borders drawn on paper maps
...sorry i'm talking to myself,... But it just now occurred to me: in Shakespeare, there is comic relief because like in Titus Andronicus where Lavinia's uncle (?) interlocutes her abuse (her tongue was cut out) to the audience, was actually a moment to use props and grotesquely portray in comedy something so horrific that the emotional pressure valve was released... is there any chance Lev. acts the same way but by way of inversion? "Gee Genesis & Exodus are some heavy hitters... We need to tone it down a bit... Get scientific and cool it down with stats...or everyone's gonna lose it!! " 😂
Leviticus said Nobama.
no it condemns male same sex acts in idolotry
Never mentions idolatry though?
All it says is that a man should not lay with a man as a wom-n
@@kyrptonite1825what
and yet it does@@kyrptonite1825
20:45 is just whataboutism lol the charge to be kind to the foreigner is one of the most repeated throughout scripture, this is utterly nonsensical.
Honestly what is wrong with kids watching veggie tales?
An ok talk, but it will not help to convert one gay person to the faith. Listen to the Marian priests, and speak more from a place of love. Our mission here is to help bring people to Jesus, that they may be converted. It worked for me at least ;)
I would be inclined to agree in some sense, but to push back and say that isn't the point of this talk. This talk is to refute the trend of watering down the message of Scripture regarding this particular sin, but not to condemn or convert anybody who is struggling with the sin
Love for one's fellow man is part of the greatest commandment of all. Physical, but non sexual love between 2 males or 2 females is to be admired and encouraged. Didn't Jesus have a beloved disciple whom he entrusted his own mother to, after his death?. Such an expression of brotherly love and commitment is contained in the Sermon on the Mount aka, the essence of Christianity in action. Nothing could be more abhorrent however, than 30 million depraved men dying horrible deaths because of 100s of casual 1 night stands as Bell and Weinberg studies revealed. Nor 10s of 1000s of children suffering the same horrible fate in recent years🙏✝️
yes we can blame homophobia for this
@@pastorbri I had homophobia for a few friends of mine who thought they were immuned to their partners' disease in hundreds of one night stands in the 80s. Mother nature made quite a statement in taking the lives of some 30 mill perverts. By the way, I'm also an incestophobe, beastophobe and also detest child abusers, aren't U?
I would prefer hearing information about gay people from gay people. Is that too much to ask? I love all the heterosexual men with wives and 10 kids telling gay men to never fall in love or have an intimate encounter their entire lives. Wow. The arrogance!
You are right! As a Deist I think all religions are man made subjective interpretations of a possible god/gods with man made moralities based on the knowledge and situation of the time they where written in. So the bible contains man made wisdom as much as man made fallacies:
+ light wasn't there before the sun
+ the earth wasn't there before the sun
+ Adam and Eve didn't exist
+ insects have six legs not four legs
+ the value of Pi isn't 3
+ homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary sense
+ the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world
+ the moon doesn't produce visible light
+ etc etc
Hopefully they understand that one day and correct that fallacies.
I know it's dangerous to assume, but would you say the same thing to a pedophile? Is it arrogant to tell a pedophile they can never have a meaningful physical encounter? I'm not being smart. I'm really asking where do you draw the line? What about sibling "love?"
Trent isn't telling people. He's only relating what God is telling people.
@@motherbhaerbear3807 To make your point, you have to compare 2 consenting gay adults to a pedophile. Why not compare them to a murderer or a psychopath? Sorry, but this does not work and is called a straw man arguement. Gay men are not pedophiles.
@@willchristie2650 you can compare them to pederasty. Two consenting people, one is just older. The point is that the Bible gives instruction and limits on behavior. If you don't believe the Bible ok, that's a different argument. If you do believe it is God's word then you need to submit to it.
@@motherbhaerbear3807 You look for a line? How about consensual sex?
Erg... Trent trying to do his tight-5 comedy routine while talking about genocide and homosexual sin is... Unsettling...
Trent doing ANY kind of comedy is unsettling
no platforms are marginalising catholic voices - they are marginalising bigoted voices.
Make of that what you will.
The man made Bible contains man made wisdom (e.g. Kain and Abel) and man made fallacies :
+ light wasn't there before the sun
+ the earth wasn't there before the sun
+ Adam and Eve didn't exist
+ insects have six legs not four legs
+ the value of Pi isn't 3
+ homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation
+ the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world
+ the moon doesn't produce visible light
+ etc etc
Beware of the man made fallacies in the Bible!
I agree
‘Sneaky people who like to say confusing things,’ here having the meaning of ‘people who disagree with me.’ Classy, Trent, don’t even have the guts to say James Martin, as if that would get anything besides applause.
I see your point and agree...But, I have to reflect to myself, "What does it accomplish?" by naming him? Does it not give him and his sin more attention?
Trent has several videos where he specifically discusses Fr. James Martin and his ministry. His distaste for Martin’s work is no secret. But Fr. Martin isn’t nearly the only priest who (deliberately) says confusing things regarding the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. Why single him out when it’s a much bigger problem than just one Jesuit priest? Many of the viewers likely personally know a priest who does the same thing.
He does call him out by name at the end of this talk around 58 minutes into the talk. So....
well homophobics are simple folk
Mr. Horn, I always appreciate people trying to explain the Bible to others. I am Catholic and am always trying to expand my perspectives. Unfortunately many people like you fail to understand or explain that most of the Bible can be interpreted any way a person chooses. That is particularly true of the old testament. The new testament is much more straight forward. Read the Gospel of Mathew in particular. The Sermon on the Mount clearly explains how Jesus wants people to behave. Jesus spoke at great length about Love, forgiveness and religious hypocrisy. he did not address sexual behavior.
Where does the Bible say you can interpret it as you please? And furthermore, what about 1 Corinthians 6:9, and other verses where Paul condemns such practices? Not to mention the Old Testament.
I’m not sure you know this, but the Catholic Church rejects the notion of sola scriptura. The whole point of the Magisterium’s existence is to definitively teach matters of the faith so Catholics aren’t left to interpret Scripture by themselves. The Bible was not intended to be the sole source of divine teaching.
It is easy to forget that our church does not make the rules for over 90 percent of the world. Many people read the Bible. And see things differently than you or I or our church.
@@johnhancock9384 Certainly. But that doesn’t make their interpretations correct. Especially when they directly conflict with other parts of Scripture.
We cannot pick one verse & interpret we have to take the whole Word.The greatest commandment Jesus taught us is Love the Lord thy God with all your heart,mind & soul & then love your neighbor as yourself..its not vice versa. Unless you love the Lord & follow his commandments first one cannot pretend to love their neighbor.
Horn's immodest homophobia is sickening, and his lame attempt to justify the hypocrisy of selectively drawing on OT primitivism as a guide for behavior is not at all persuasive.
YES. And he often tries to come across as a jovial fellow when I find him to be a pompous, bigotted little troll
He isn’t funny, but I don’t know why anyone would be hateful towards him. I think he does a pretty good job. I’m not Catholic or heterosexual.