Have you experienced Dolby Vision improvements or are your movies not real HDR? Timestamps 0:00 Start 1:28 Purpose of Dolby Vision 3:28 Why Samsung Does NOT support Dolby Vision 4:10 DV Tested: Hard Clipping 5:48 Alternative Solution: luminance drop-down 6:34 DV Tested: Color Correction 7:25 DV Tested: Shadow Detail, luminance adjustments 8:29 DV Tested: blooming control 9:00 X900H tests limits of DV improvement 9:45 LG CX Dynamic Tone Mapping vs Dolby Vision 11:07 Conclusion: Visible Benefits of DV 11:51 Hollywood ignores real HDR & Dolby Vision (fake HDR content) 14:36 Dolby Vision in gaming: Xbox Series X 16:44 Gaming on Samsung TVs without Dolby Vision
Thanks for Your Info, Master, I never thought TCL can Go that Good. I always Were a Samsung/ LG Fan. I used to have 2 Samsung with HDR and None of them were good with nits and Dimming Zones. I will try TCL 6 35, I almost Buy Crystal Prossesor Samsung
@@Tee-King not unless you don't like it. That tv has all the features to get the most out of gaming, enabled by hdmi 2.1 I would recommend that you go ahead and buy some hdmi 2.1 chords and make them your standard. Fomo made a video and recommended some great monoprice cables. They'll be labeled "8k" and 48gbps. You'll need one to get the most out of your ps5. To clarify..you mean the new one right? Came out this year?
Man, I can’t believe you said all that about Samsung’s tone mapping and did not include it in the comparison at all. Please make an addendum video to compare Samsung compared to the these TVs with Dolby Vision.
Great video. I wish the q90t was in the comparisons. I feel like the q80t or q90t are the tvs people are most concerned about in regards to missing dolby vision
I have a Q70R 75" with a Panasonic UB824. I i am totaly fine with that P-Quality. Never expirienced clipping with my HDR movies so far. In 2 movies i think the TV just got to dark so fald aciviated to early. (Hunger Games) And if you need side by side comparison and the right tv with the right output of luminance you can ignore this shit.
I don't have a HDR/Dolby DVD player. However, while watching UHD/ HDR vs Dolby content on Netflix, Disney, or Amazon Prime, I much prefer the Dolby content on my 65 inch LG CX. It comes across more pleasing to the eye and the colors pop more than when viewing UHD/HDR programming.
I think the main reason HDR is dumbed down is that Cinema industry doesn’t want videos to out perform the theatres, which even with laser projection, I’d be surprised if they are 1000 nits, even Dolby Cinemas. IMAX has made improvements to keep up with Dolby Cinemas.
I have Never Ever looked into any information about HDR before. I have known what its function is and what it should do, but never looked up anything specific before. I saw this video show up, and out of curiosity I watched. I am so glad I did! You broke it down in a very easy to comprehend way. Thank you. Just great, digestible information!
There were some things that weren’t clear enough for me. First, my understanding is that nit levels in HDR are absolute, not relative as in SDR. That means 100, 200, 300 or 500 nits should look the same in all TV models as long as they are capable of showing that nit level natively. That results in “Blade Runner 2049” looking dark in all TV models, as only the peak brightness reach 300 nits. Studios using that low level of brightness should not “fix” the inconsistencies of HDR tone mapping. I believe it only has to do with Roger Deakins not being a fan of HDR. Now, in my experience color grading in HDR 10, even if it only has static metadata for MaxFALL and MaxCLL, it doesn’t mean that I’m not able to raise the brightness in postproduction in scenes that I believe are too dark. As I see it, Dolby Vision does this process in the television, which SHOULD be done in the postproduction of a movie, like a human dynamic metadata. I think Dolby Vision helps right now because many studios are not careful enough (lazy) in doing a proper HDR grading for their movies, as it requires doing it scene by scene, so they apply a “general” HDR grading (or automated HDR grading) and call it a day, which results in some movies looking very dark in some scenes. What Dolby Vision does in my understanding (I have not color graded in DV), is using the metadata that is generated by the waveform when a disc is produced, that way it can adjust the nit levels. I think that, as long as the studios don’t apply “Auto HDR”, HDR10 can look as good as Dolby Vision. If a colorist or a DP graded a film manually, he will decide the brightness of each scene. In that case, I think DV should only be able to show a better picture than HDR10 when literally the whole movie is transferred to an HDR workflow without making any modifications scene by scene and letting the metadata be burned in the digital intermediate without any human intervention (taking the SDR grade and only converting it to HDR). Obviously it would result in the picture looking dull or creating metadata that doesn’t correspond to the real content. I would like to hear your thoughts, and the DP’s or colorists in the community.
This is very informative. I have a HDR10 monitor that can reach 1000nits brightness though i found a lot of HDR movies looking quite darker. When there were lights however or a lit up scene it did look brighter so i thought this was intentional. After your explanation i think i understand that it is more down to lazy post production of movies and not necessarily the monitor or HDR10. Thanks.
most hdr10 videos are mastered to 1000nits so if your tv can reach that level it doesn't need tonemapping. The best HDR experience is when your tv matches or exceeds the maxcll of the media and doesn't need to tonemap. It shows it as it is
Hey there, just for your reference, we typically grade HDR somewhere from 300-1000 nits based on what the clients want. (some directors don't like the brightness) and then put into a 4000 nits container. Like the film vs digital debate, directors' taste comes indifferently, the same thing with HDR. It will take a few years for HDR technology to improve to the point that the top studio and directors embrace the technology. It's also important to note that if film is the biggest thing for you, LG and Panasonic OLED should be the only choice for you because that's the only client monitor we use for all the top-grossing movies
I wish that the Blu Rays had an option for a "real" HDR encoding for those who have a setup that can take advantage of it. Just like how there are options for which audio track you want to use.
People ask me about tvs and tech and in complete honesty I sometimes or mostly recommend your videos just because you speak the truth man, love you videos.
the comparison should be LED Dolby Vision vs Samsung LED HDR10+, then OLED/AMOLED of Dolby Vision vs HDR10+. Q90t is an Qled panel so it will by defaut have better quality compared to LED tvs. its like material vs Format if Q90t vs normal LED Dolby Vision.
Remember in a full Dolby vision layer, it is also processed in a different way, not regular YCbCr. Allows for more exact colors. And even if the content grading “fits” into the HDR10 layer, it may be very minimal metadata.
Your voice has this calming soothing sound, just like Marc Cerny's voice. I could listen to you explaining technical complicated things while trying to fall asleep. (I mean this as a compliment)
Great explanation as always. Just when I thought I knew what tv to buy, then you bring in more knowledge for us. From what you are saying all the TV should be half price. Since they are only doing half of what they say they can do.
How could you not compare a Samsung TV to others with Dolby Vision, hence the title?..........we need an updated comparison with a Sony X95K running DV vs a Samsung 90B running HDR10 and HDR10+. I want to see the real differences between DV/HDR10+ vs Samsungs HDR10 DTM and see if Samsung is right or not.
I saw the mandalorian demo on an x900h at best buy baby yodas cheeks look red and colorful the power of dolby vision tbh samsung only has like 20 movies in hdr10+ lol
Yep I believe they need to add support for things like that. May not make much of a difference in terms of my eyes. But other brands support every type of HDR.
Love your channel and so glad you aren't dumbing things down for the average user. The only movie I've watched for comparison is Rise of Skywalker and I definitely saw improvements in detail in the Dolby Vision vs HDR10. Not so sure about bright objects.
The limited amount of Dolby Vision titles that I've seen I must say the colors really pop whether that's accurate or not as I didn't take measurements is to be debated, but I definitely find there is more pop with Dolby vision and I don't know if that was the goal,but I'll find out shortly!! Oh,by the way, I posted this comment before watching your video LOL
1nfam0us Basturd APPLE TV/iTunes is a great place for 4K DV content & if you’ve bought a title in the past in say HD & a 4K DV becomes available Apple will upgrade your content at no extra cost 😎👍🏻
All I can think of what Dolby is. Is like a great looking film over the picture without the user changing the settings of the picture so pretty much defeating the need to set the settings for different content
The Panasonic UB820 and 9000 have this great feature called HDR Optimizer that allows you to set the kind of display you have (eg. 1000 nits for oled) and then dynamically adjust the maximum brightness of the content being played to this before sending to the tv. This effectively means the dynamic tone mapping for the tv no longer has to 'work' to reign in the brightness and maps within this. I've found it to works very well. Brings back a lot of details in the highlight without affecting the brightness in the darker sections of the scene. HDTVTest has a great video explaining it. Glad I grabbed a UB820. Can it match or come near Dolby Vision? That would be a good test to do.
The UB820 is such a phenomenal player, I’m so glad I purchased. Having a dedicated disc player makes me much more likely to actually use it surprisingly, and the HDR optimizer really makes things click together for Dolby Vision in a way I wasn’t expecting.
Works brilliantly. Best example is the original Batman 4k disc. It has only HDR10, but seems to have been mastered quite high. Many people complain about scenes in that disc being clipped. Works great on my Panasonic player.
fantastic video. Really well done. Question: Why do we need dynamic metadata? Why can’t the studios choose the movies range and then configure each scene to suit? ie allow static data to be good enough?
Could you do a video about *streamed* Dolby vision with different tv brands. Because I have heard there are issues with using some sony TVs (specifically OLED) when playing Dolby vision through the Apple TV 4K vs just the the tv itself. Some say there are issues; others don’t. I’d love to have your opinion.
Basically confirming my suspicions. Dolbyvision actually works and has value. HDR 10 is also fine in theory but in practice most TVs will still crap themselves if they're not spoonfed sub 500 nit content because they either lack for brightness or viable tone mapping strategy.
As a fellow A9G owner with a Panasonic UB-9000...I've been testing movies with DV on and off. I'm having difficulty seeing any differences, would like your examination. I think because Sony has built in dynamic tonemapping and excellent gradation, making some of the DV advantages less so.
Remember the first time you saw 1080p? Well seeing a 4k movie with dolby vision is like that feeling x10. No Bull, if your tv is adjusted properly a 3k movie with dolby vision will BLOW YPUR MIND. I wouldn't trade my DV tv and DV player for anything I LOVE IT IN FACT I ONLY BUY DISCS THAT ARE IN DOLBY VISION.
I’m glad I’m not much of a videophile. I just don’t want to see large swathes or blacked out blobs where shit on screen can’t be seen and I don’t want the edges of people or objects to be noticeably blurred/haloed. I’m more of a sound guy. I want those loud bangs and snappy effects to be felt as well as heard and to be in sync with the happenings on screen.
Let me add something. In games at this point AAA games generally let you set the max brightness of hdr for your TVs. Id encourage folks to make sure you change that setting yourself if option is available. Because in the end hdr10 will be the norm even in gaming.
I saw a video of dolby vs hdr10plus side by side and they both have advantages and disadvantages. Dolby vision more contrast but less detail in dark zones vs hdr10+ more detail in dark zones but less contrast. So…it’s not a dealbreaker for me. Both look great.
FOMO, I just bought a Sony X950H 49”. The ability to crank past 1000 nits was awesome to see. Do you think the X900H is similar? This tv has a brilliant processor so maybe x1 ultimate is different? Or that doesn’t help this?
I have an LG C1 and dont with Dolby Vision but dont even know if I am looking at it or not, It is not a dramatic enough difference to no HDR at all IMO, looks like the contrast has just been turned up with slightly better black levels.
Would it be possible to see a review on TCL’s with THX gaming mode vs TCL’s without THX gaming mode? Or maybe a Sony X1 Ultimate vs X1 Extreme processor?
I don't see the point in having dynamic metadata in games. A lot of games have hdr peak brightness setting, that essentially does the same function as dynamic metadata: tone maps the image to the capabilities of your particular TV.
I love the fact that you make fun of Samsung because I have been watching our stuff for the last few months and it's hilarious!! I just got a Samsung Q90T 85 inch and I love it. excellent picture. I game a lot and It's nice not worrying about burn in. I calibrated my tv and movies and games look amazing on it. I love how bright the Samsung tv gets also because i watch it with light coming in the room. it's amazing!!
jordan rausch Disney plus tries to push all movies to Dolby Vision, try to watch Beauty and Beast, it looks super dark with Dolby Vision, you have to bring gamma to 2 to be able to watch it
I just discovered this channel after having just ordered my LG CX 55". I'm so anxious.... Did I do the right thing?! Currently using a base LG 4K HDR 43" LED set.
The Chapter about Hollywood ignoring HDR is the real truth. Some are nitpicky about minimal differences, lag times, tone mapping - but in the end it’s all in the grading. Too dim? Probably the grading.
Good question - not if it's player led like on the XBox One X (aka low latency dolby vision LLDV), but if it's TV led? I don't know as you are correct this means the DV chip on the TV must go through yet another layer of decoding.
The irony to me is Dolby Vision is an advanced version of PQ HDR, but the whole point of PQ initially is to have absolute brightness, so seems to bring back the scene referred aspects of HLG, making everything more percentage based relative to the screens output. It's funny too that Dolbyvision often looks too dark, similar to HLG, but for totally different reasons (downscaled PQ curve vs initial Rec 709 curve on HLG). Makes me wonder how similar a carefully graded HLG project could be to Dolbyvision in its end look and flexibility across displays.
Games always start with some calibration. Meaning the game is mapped to your TV max nits. By your explanation DV does not matter in this case, as a 1000nit monitor per game calibration will have matched content.
its the same thing with music..audio nowdays is mastered (compressed) to please airpod and bluetooth speaker users..or else the lowest common denominator..
I use Dolby Vision iQ on my Lg Oled TV and only for Amazon Prime Movies in Dolby Vision, that is awesome. For Games normal Hdr looks much better in my Eyes. 👍
So, if I understand correctly what you have said at the end of your very informative video, Dolby Vision could at times enable Samsung TVs to get more accurate colors according to the creator intents? It will also could be more useful in the future when the TV standards will be more uniform and the movie creators feel more confident to make movies with more luminance without the risk for some consumers to loose picture details? Doby Vision, while not being that essential for now, is a kind of insurance for future picture quality?
Interesting video. I'm looking for a new TV, preferably a Samsung as I have the Samsung q600c 3.1.2 soundbar which I have paired up rear surround speakers 🔊 to, for a 5.1.2 audio. However, some of the content I have is in Dolby Vision which appears in Green and Purple as my current TV doesn't support Dolby Vision, just 4k uhd hdr, so if I played the same content on a Samsung TV, I would have the same issue wouldn't I, as Samsung TVs aren't in Dolby Vision?
Brilliant video, I mainly only use DTM on Xbox One X, it really helps those scenes playing at 4k HDR game mode and RUclips 4k content, i don't see the benefit anywhere else? I'm probably missing something?.
I'd be interested to see the same comparisons but using the 4000nit demo. It's more representative of content, as nothing is mastered at 10,000 and it's more of a torture test.
Sometimes you can reduce the Contrast on TV's to resolve more highlight detail in HDR 10. With the Sony 900H you can reduce the Contrast and resolve well over 4,000 nits (at Contrast of 81). You can in fact resolve around 10,000 nit highlights by going even lower then Contrast of 81. That wouldn't be ideal for content that is mastered at around 1,000 nits though (going below Contrast of 81) as you'd start to make 1,000 nit content look sort of dull and dim.
I have a question: I play Xbox One X on an LGB9. I can calibrate HDR in the General TV & Display Options of the console. Should I turn my B9's Dynamic Tone Mapping off during the console calibration, and turn it on afterwards? Or should I keep it activated during calibration? It seems to make a difference with the brightness of the checkerboard patterns of the calibration sheets. There's got to be a right way to do this.
Great video. Loved all the examples. Very informative for me. It also helped me realize that I'm not so much of a videofile. For the most part, all the images would look fine to me in my living room. Especially without having a "better" set sitting right next to it. Only the example with the sun missing in the sunrise was a big enough difference for me.
Yeah agreed. Unless you have an LG CX sitting right next to your current TV, youre not going to think a current gen TV has poor picture quality, especially if you’re upgrading from a 7 year old one like myself. So for that reason i feel like features such as two HDMI 2.1 inputs, Dolby Atmos, etc are more important for future proofing.
Nope - Samsung manufactures a different tecnology for phones/tablets based on RGB OLED not QD-OLED. The former works fine for small screens but not so well for anything larger than 12".
"HDR" in games is so far behind "HDR". I also don't think PC game devs will push the limits here as they know monitors are much worse than TVs in delivering HDR-> very few monitors even have local dimming or go beyond 600 nits.
@@truthx7 So you're saying that because an unrelated technology was criticized initially (because it did suck initially) and then improved tremendously, I should reserve judgement this time around? I'll reserve judgement but a whole lot of things need to go well here.
mohamedahmed1023 it’s not. My Sony TV does that with X-tender and SDR movies look gorgeous. Bright areas are bright and dark areas like night scenes are dark. Makes picture look like real life in terms of lighting
So is the overall point dolby vision is a technology thats useless right now beyond some color accuracy if you lower the luminance? What about tv shows? The word "movies" was specifically used. Where does DV stand with netflix series?
I don't agree. I have the Sony 900H and it's incredible. I wasn't a fan of LG CX because I don't have a blackout room. It looked washed out when there's even minimal light contrast in the room. The Sony was the perfect choice for me. Dolby Vision is a game changer. Watching Mandolorian on this TV is insanely good. Bright, vibrant and detailed.
Thank you FOMO. I have an LG 49SK8000 IPS tv. Among other thing I am an artist, oil painter. I do have a decent color sense. To me the SK8000 is putting out correct color. It feels right to me to the extent that I don't feel the need to tweak much. I just throw it on HGR Effect(low) and watch away. I also know this TV doesn't get extremely bright but in a lot of the 'HDR' (Dolby Vision) programming it seems bright enough. In truth a lot of the dark scenes I think maybe could be brighter but in general okay. I watch TV in a semi bright room and if watching movies there is still ambient light which is my preference. Looking at recent models which punch out much higher 'HDR' levels I was wondering what exactly would be gained if for the most part the TV I have is plenty bright enough. I think I'll look at another TV in the near future but maybe the notion of chasing higher numbers that may never show anyhow should not be my main issue. Again, thanks!
Ehh, if more producers supported HDR 10+, I would consider it, but as of right now I think I only own 1 movie with hdr 10+, while the rest have hdr 10, or Dolby vision. So, unless there is any chance of seeing a 12 bit panel in the next year, I will probably buy a Sony Dolby Vision, especially since Disney is supporting Dolby vision…
@stop the FOMO. What are your thoughts on player-led Vs TV-led DoVi. It seems a Tv like the A8H is only able of handling player-led from external sources making the DoVi picture dimm and flat.
If u have a tv that supports 4k 120hz Dolby vision an vrr at the same time then i can tell you is amazing and a clear improvement over HDR gaming. Only LG oleds support all of these features together that's why LG OLED it's the best tv by far
Definitely a work in process, and the good news is that LG is apparently working on improving this area - whether they'll succeed is another matter though. I'll look into it for sure
@@ilusiil battlefield 1 and mass effect andromeda. They look absolutely amazing but I can only get it to work at 1080p60 or 2160p30 and it crashes my pc when I exit the game
@@corzabourne2101 You're right. I forgot those games have DV. I couldn't get DV to work correctly in those titles either. I would get a strange red or green all screen color hue when enabling DV.
@@ilusiil if your running nvidia you have to set it to 8bit rgb in the nvidia control panel. What your seeing is a 12bit signal which either the TV or the gpu can't handle
im not understanding why he use the x900h to compare with hisense & tcl 6 series when both those tvs dont even have hdmi 2.1. obviously those tv are gonna make up for not having 2.1 + the lg is oled. it would make more sense to use the x950 to me
Dolby vision is great. Your tests and comparison just showed it. The only people that will say its worthless are the ones who doesnt have it. Human nature. That's normal.
Thank you for the great information. I noticed you don't have any content pertaining to projector screens. Is that something you plan on delving into, or is there any channel you'd recommend checking out? I would like to compare those options to the TV options. Thanks again for your help!
I love having the best quality everything. I buy 4K Blu Rays, but I can't stop thinking about this. If a 4K Blu Ray can hold up to 100GB of storage, but still has to go through a laser, data has to transfer through HDMI, then a receiver then to your TV.... Would the best quality actually happen if a Solid State was connected directly to the TV and could transfer the data faster and more accurate? I have been trying to get that answered forever.
It does not matter it can travel fast enough it will start a few ms later :) stream from blu-ray is only about 100 MBit you could do that via internet too but no one offers yet.
If you NEED a tv right now( as in yours is broken, or dont have one) the X900H would be one of the few TV that will be best for seriesX. However if you have a tv( even a 720p tv, like me). I would try to hold off. Patience is a virtue. If you like the x900h, next year will improve, and you will know how these tvs will work in real life use with consoles.
next year sony, samsung and lg will likely have mini led tv's like the tcl 6 series in this video. you saw how amazing the tcl was despite being very cheap. i'd say wait till next year you won't be disappointed.
Hey Fomo. When you do the reviews, and you show the differences, can you please show them where you havent touched the pre settings? I see you are in filmmaker mode.. but also that you have changed something in filmmaker mode as it is saying (user). It would just show more transparency. Thank you for your videos.
Why didn't you include Samsung TV? So we can see if Samsung is right or not with their TVs. Asking because I am thinking of getting Samsung QN95A Neo and would love to see if the TV can really back up Samsung's claim.
My question is: if we own a 5-6 year old Sony TV without Dolby vision but a 4K player with Dolby vision then will our Dolby vision movie still look better.
I appreciate your tv input but you did get a few things wrong. PC develops for the lowest common denominator as well. If it was high end we would have seen the whole industry shift to ssd years ago but its just starting now.
I saw yesterday in rtings that the Q80T supoports VRR only up to 4k60. But I read too that it does support VRR at 4k120. If it only supports 4k60, but having freesync, does it matter the VRR? I am not sure how it works
i used to buy Samsung tvs...then hdr came out. Netflix is full of dv movies/shows. There's how many hdr+ movies? 10? Also, since most movies aren't even real "hdr", i'm guessing the lower brightness of the oleds doesn't matter much for the hdr effect
Content is the big issue. Only Amazon are really supporting HDR10+, which is a big detractor when most other companies support Dolby Vision. Samsung gets rejected for that reason.
Can we get some review on gaming monitors that are compatible and can be use for upcoming Xbox series X or PS5, To clarify my question is since most of the gamers are not using TV anymore because the subscription based TV like netflix, disney+ and others that can be viewed thru these gaming machine or PC then what if we just go directly to a PC shop and buy a gaming monitor for the xbox or ps rather than going to an appliance store and buy a specialize tv, what is a different between not having a tv aerial receiver at the back if you will use it for gaming the whole time.
Have you experienced Dolby Vision improvements or are your movies not real HDR?
Timestamps
0:00 Start
1:28 Purpose of Dolby Vision
3:28 Why Samsung Does NOT support Dolby Vision
4:10 DV Tested: Hard Clipping
5:48 Alternative Solution: luminance drop-down
6:34 DV Tested: Color Correction
7:25 DV Tested: Shadow Detail, luminance adjustments
8:29 DV Tested: blooming control
9:00 X900H tests limits of DV improvement
9:45 LG CX Dynamic Tone Mapping vs Dolby Vision
11:07 Conclusion: Visible Benefits of DV
11:51 Hollywood ignores real HDR & Dolby Vision (fake HDR content)
14:36 Dolby Vision in gaming: Xbox Series X
16:44 Gaming on Samsung TVs without Dolby Vision
Thanks for Your Info, Master, I never thought TCL can Go that Good. I always Were a Samsung/ LG Fan. I used to have 2 Samsung with HDR and None of them were good with nits and Dimming Zones. I will try TCL 6 35, I almost Buy Crystal Prossesor Samsung
Lol. Did you pin that bangin outro? 😂
Can You write a quick review of the Crystal samsung doing HDR?
I have LG 55SM9000 should i upgrade for PS5 🙁
@@Tee-King not unless you don't like it. That tv has all the features to get the most out of gaming, enabled by hdmi 2.1
I would recommend that you go ahead and buy some hdmi 2.1 chords and make them your standard. Fomo made a video and recommended some great monoprice cables. They'll be labeled "8k" and 48gbps. You'll need one to get the most out of your ps5.
To clarify..you mean the new one right? Came out this year?
Man, I can’t believe you said all that about Samsung’s tone mapping and did not include it in the comparison at all. Please make an addendum video to compare Samsung compared to the these TVs with Dolby Vision.
Samsung 🇰🇷 vs (TCL 🇨🇳 + Dolby Vision) 🤩🤗🥳
Agreed. I kept waiting for A Samsung comparison the never came :(
you read my mind, because if there's a samsung TV included like TU8500 wouldve been amazing.
@@djdruzayden9994 that's mid range at best look up the rtings review on it
Samsung is in the damn title and not in the video??? What am I missing here
Great video. I wish the q90t was in the comparisons. I feel like the q80t or q90t are the tvs people are most concerned about in regards to missing dolby vision
I have a Q70R 75" with a Panasonic UB824. I i am totaly fine with that P-Quality. Never expirienced clipping with my HDR movies so far. In 2 movies i think the TV just got to dark so fald aciviated to early. (Hunger Games) And if you need side by side comparison and the right tv with the right output of luminance you can ignore this shit.
My thoughts exactly
Should compare it with Sony Z9d a beast of the TVs true Samsung killer
I don't have a HDR/Dolby DVD player. However, while watching UHD/ HDR vs Dolby content on Netflix, Disney, or Amazon Prime, I much prefer the Dolby content on my 65 inch LG CX. It comes across more pleasing to the eye and the colors pop more than when viewing UHD/HDR programming.
I think the main reason HDR is dumbed down is that Cinema industry doesn’t want videos to out perform the theatres, which even with laser projection, I’d be surprised if they are 1000 nits, even Dolby Cinemas. IMAX has made improvements to keep up with Dolby Cinemas.
Most people aren't buying experience 4k HDR blu rays though.
I doubt they are brighter than 100 nits
@@davidhrzenjakDCI-P3 at 108nits
I have Never Ever looked into any information about HDR before. I have known what its function is and what it should do, but never looked up anything specific before. I saw this video show up, and out of curiosity I watched. I am so glad I did! You broke it down in a very easy to comprehend way. Thank you. Just great, digestible information!
I'm also curious now how Dolby Vision would work with the Series implementation of 'Auto-HDR' for the older games that didnt have HDR originally?
There were some things that weren’t clear enough for me. First, my understanding is that nit levels in HDR are absolute, not relative as in SDR. That means 100, 200, 300 or 500 nits should look the same in all TV models as long as they are capable of showing that nit level natively. That results in “Blade Runner 2049” looking dark in all TV models, as only the peak brightness reach 300 nits. Studios using that low level of brightness should not “fix” the inconsistencies of HDR tone mapping. I believe it only has to do with Roger Deakins not being a fan of HDR.
Now, in my experience color grading in HDR 10, even if it only has static metadata for MaxFALL and MaxCLL, it doesn’t mean that I’m not able to raise the brightness in postproduction in scenes that I believe are too dark. As I see it, Dolby Vision does this process in the television, which SHOULD be done in the postproduction of a movie, like a human dynamic metadata. I think Dolby Vision helps right now because many studios are not careful enough (lazy) in doing a proper HDR grading for their movies, as it requires doing it scene by scene, so they apply a “general” HDR grading (or automated HDR grading) and call it a day, which results in some movies looking very dark in some scenes.
What Dolby Vision does in my understanding (I have not color graded in DV), is using the metadata that is generated by the waveform when a disc is produced, that way it can adjust the nit levels. I think that, as long as the studios don’t apply “Auto HDR”, HDR10 can look as good as Dolby Vision. If a colorist or a DP graded a film manually, he will decide the brightness of each scene. In that case, I think DV should only be able to show a better picture than HDR10 when literally the whole movie is transferred to an HDR workflow without making any modifications scene by scene and letting the metadata be burned in the digital intermediate without any human intervention (taking the SDR grade and only converting it to HDR). Obviously it would result in the picture looking dull or creating metadata that doesn’t correspond to the real content. I would like to hear your thoughts, and the DP’s or colorists in the community.
This is very informative. I have a HDR10 monitor that can reach 1000nits brightness though i found a lot of HDR movies looking quite darker. When there were lights however or a lit up scene it did look brighter so i thought this was intentional. After your explanation i think i understand that it is more down to lazy post production of movies and not necessarily the monitor or HDR10. Thanks.
Yep it’s all down into the production. It can be “HDR” and at a max of 300 nits won’t look too HDR. Though it is more that SDR.
Should be compared with the Sony Z9D a beast of the TVs
Now what about video games?
most hdr10 videos are mastered to 1000nits so if your tv can reach that level it doesn't need tonemapping.
The best HDR experience is when your tv matches or exceeds the maxcll of the media and doesn't need to tonemap. It shows it as it is
Hey there, just for your reference, we typically grade HDR somewhere from 300-1000 nits based on what the clients want. (some directors don't like the brightness) and then put into a 4000 nits container. Like the film vs digital debate, directors' taste comes indifferently, the same thing with HDR. It will take a few years for HDR technology to improve to the point that the top studio and directors embrace the technology. It's also important to note that if film is the biggest thing for you, LG and Panasonic OLED should be the only choice for you because that's the only client monitor we use for all the top-grossing movies
Thx
I wish that the Blu Rays had an option for a "real" HDR encoding for those who have a setup that can take advantage of it. Just like how there are options for which audio track you want to use.
People ask me about tvs and tech and in complete honesty I sometimes or mostly recommend your videos just because you speak the truth man, love you videos.
Show a comparison of a good samsung tv like the q90t with hdr 10 and or hdr 10 + vs dobly vision
the comparison should be LED Dolby Vision vs Samsung LED HDR10+, then OLED/AMOLED of Dolby Vision vs HDR10+. Q90t is an Qled panel so it will by defaut have better quality compared to LED tvs. its like material vs Format if Q90t vs normal LED Dolby Vision.
Remember in a full Dolby vision layer, it is also processed in a different way, not regular YCbCr. Allows for more exact colors. And even if the content grading “fits” into the HDR10 layer, it may be very minimal metadata.
Your voice has this calming soothing sound, just like Marc Cerny's voice. I could listen to you explaining technical complicated things while trying to fall asleep. (I mean this as a compliment)
Wow, thanks - I've been trying to slow down my speech because I get a little too excited and speak to quickly sometimes!
Stop the FOMO your not alone FOMO I catch myself doing the same thing when it comes to talking with my customers as a Comcast technician
Yeah his manner of speaking and hand movements is almost like an ASMR video, it is very calming.
@@Motorheadache95 He is the ASMR TV Expert superhero we all need and deserve in these trying times.
Great explanation as always. Just when I thought I knew what tv to buy, then you bring in more knowledge for us. From what you are saying all the TV should be half price. Since they are only doing half of what they say they can do.
How could you not compare a Samsung TV to others with Dolby Vision, hence the title?..........we need an updated comparison with a Sony X95K running DV vs a Samsung 90B running HDR10 and HDR10+. I want to see the real differences between DV/HDR10+ vs Samsungs HDR10 DTM and see if Samsung is right or not.
Literally the only thing keeping me from a Samsung TV
Get the samsung tv. You would never even know the difference anyway
I saw the mandalorian demo on an x900h at best buy baby yodas cheeks look red and colorful the power of dolby vision tbh samsung only has like 20 movies in hdr10+ lol
Yep I believe they need to add support for things like that. May not make much of a difference in terms of my eyes. But other brands support every type of HDR.
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Pro of the samsung qled though is there is no risk of burn in over the oled models that have dolby vision and I wouldn't want the risk of the burn in
Love your channel and so glad you aren't dumbing things down for the average user. The only movie I've watched for comparison is Rise of Skywalker and I definitely saw improvements in detail in the Dolby Vision vs HDR10. Not so sure about bright objects.
The limited amount of Dolby Vision titles that I've seen I must say the colors really pop whether that's accurate or not as I didn't take measurements is to be debated, but I definitely find there is more pop with Dolby vision and I don't know if that was the goal,but I'll find out shortly!! Oh,by the way, I posted this comment before watching your video LOL
1nfam0us Basturd APPLE TV/iTunes is a great place for 4K DV content & if you’ve bought a title in the past in say HD & a 4K DV becomes available Apple will upgrade your content at no extra cost 😎👍🏻
Me: "I feel a FOMO coming on!"
Stop the FOMO: "Allow me to introduce myself."
Now I know why I always like more Dolby Vision over HDR on my TCL and CX.
All I can think of what Dolby is. Is like a great looking film over the picture without the user changing the settings of the picture so pretty much defeating the need to set the settings for different content
The Panasonic UB820 and 9000 have this great feature called HDR Optimizer that allows you to set the kind of display you have (eg. 1000 nits for oled) and then dynamically adjust the maximum brightness of the content being played to this before sending to the tv. This effectively means the dynamic tone mapping for the tv no longer has to 'work' to reign in the brightness and maps within this. I've found it to works very well. Brings back a lot of details in the highlight without affecting the brightness in the darker sections of the scene. HDTVTest has a great video explaining it. Glad I grabbed a UB820.
Can it match or come near Dolby Vision? That would be a good test to do.
The UB820 is such a phenomenal player, I’m so glad I purchased. Having a dedicated disc player makes me much more likely to actually use it surprisingly, and the HDR optimizer really makes things click together for Dolby Vision in a way I wasn’t expecting.
Works brilliantly. Best example is the original Batman 4k disc. It has only HDR10, but seems to have been mastered quite high. Many people complain about scenes in that disc being clipped. Works great on my Panasonic player.
dolby vision is a 12bit standard and samsung can barely make 10bit panels.
fantastic video. Really well done. Question: Why do we need dynamic metadata? Why can’t the studios choose the movies range and then configure each scene to suit? ie allow static data to be good enough?
Because of your screen . Different type of tv screen or projectors
Could you do a video about *streamed* Dolby vision with different tv brands. Because I have heard there are issues with using some sony TVs (specifically OLED) when playing Dolby vision through the Apple TV 4K vs just the the tv itself. Some say there are issues; others don’t. I’d love to have your opinion.
Basically confirming my suspicions. Dolbyvision actually works and has value. HDR 10 is also fine in theory but in practice most TVs will still crap themselves if they're not spoonfed sub 500 nit content because they either lack for brightness or viable tone mapping strategy.
With the sunset scene using dolby vision on the TCL you can seen the light post individual bulbs better too.
What about refresh rate 60 vs 120.
Is there a big difference???
As a fellow A9G owner with a Panasonic UB-9000...I've been testing movies with DV on and off. I'm having difficulty seeing any differences, would like your examination.
I think because Sony has built in dynamic tonemapping and excellent gradation, making some of the DV advantages less so.
Dv implementation is bad on the sony tv. Try dolby vision on lg cx
@@trinitycob6617 false. Try again ;)
So current display tech is still far from great.
Which tech will really be great at high nits.
Micro led?
Could you compare a Samsung TV to a TV with Dolby Vision?
Remember the first time you saw 1080p? Well seeing a 4k movie with dolby vision is like that feeling x10. No Bull, if your tv is adjusted properly a 3k movie with dolby vision will BLOW YPUR MIND. I wouldn't trade my DV tv and DV player for anything
I LOVE IT IN FACT I ONLY BUY DISCS THAT ARE IN DOLBY VISION.
Thank you for your explanation of what dolby vision actually does. Your sharing of the knowledge is appreciated.
I’m glad I’m not much of a videophile. I just don’t want to see large swathes or blacked out blobs where shit on screen can’t be seen and I don’t want the edges of people or objects to be noticeably blurred/haloed.
I’m more of a sound guy. I want those loud bangs and snappy effects to be felt as well as heard and to be in sync with the happenings on screen.
Let me add something. In games at this point AAA games generally let you set the max brightness of hdr for your TVs. Id encourage folks to make sure you change that setting yourself if option is available. Because in the end hdr10 will be the norm even in gaming.
I saw a video of dolby vs hdr10plus side by side and they both have advantages and disadvantages. Dolby vision more contrast but less detail in dark zones vs hdr10+ more detail in dark zones but less contrast. So…it’s not a dealbreaker for me. Both look great.
FOMO, I just bought a Sony X950H 49”. The ability to crank past 1000 nits was awesome to see. Do you think the X900H is similar? This tv has a brilliant processor so maybe x1 ultimate is different? Or that doesn’t help this?
I have an LG C1 and dont with Dolby Vision but dont even know if I am looking at it or not, It is not a dramatic enough difference to no HDR at all IMO, looks like the contrast has just been turned up with slightly better black levels.
Would it be possible to see a review on TCL’s with THX gaming mode vs TCL’s without THX gaming mode? Or maybe a Sony X1 Ultimate vs X1 Extreme processor?
Did tcl fix thx mode to allow you to adjust settings? Last I saw thx mode was locked at 45 brightness, and made the game look duller.
Great video! I enjoyed watching this. Great examples too.
I don't see the point in having dynamic metadata in games. A lot of games have hdr peak brightness setting, that essentially does the same function as dynamic metadata: tone maps the image to the capabilities of your particular TV.
I love the fact that you make fun of Samsung because I have been watching our stuff for the last few months and it's hilarious!! I just got a Samsung Q90T 85 inch and I love it. excellent picture. I game a lot and It's nice not worrying about burn in. I calibrated my tv and movies and games look amazing on it. I love how bright the Samsung tv gets also because i watch it with light coming in the room. it's amazing!!
Disney’s Dolby Vision is the worst, that’s my negative experience with Dolby Vision
Really why?
jordan rausch Disney plus tries to push all movies to Dolby Vision, try to watch Beauty and Beast, it looks super dark with Dolby Vision, you have to bring gamma to 2 to be able to watch it
I just discovered this channel after having just ordered my LG CX 55".
I'm so anxious.... Did I do the right thing?! Currently using a base LG 4K HDR 43" LED set.
Why would it not be the right thing? The CX is the best TV that exists for now! You surely realized that since your comment is 3 months old
The Chapter about Hollywood ignoring HDR is the real truth. Some are nitpicky about minimal differences, lag times, tone mapping - but in the end it’s all in the grading. Too dim? Probably the grading.
Just wondering will Dolby vision gaming cause more lag as it has to be processed on a chip on the telly will input lag go up
Good question - not if it's player led like on the XBox One X (aka low latency dolby vision LLDV), but if it's TV led? I don't know as you are correct this means the DV chip on the TV must go through yet another layer of decoding.
The irony to me is Dolby Vision is an advanced version of PQ HDR, but the whole point of PQ initially is to have absolute brightness, so seems to bring back the scene referred aspects of HLG, making everything more percentage based relative to the screens output. It's funny too that Dolbyvision often looks too dark, similar to HLG, but for totally different reasons (downscaled PQ curve vs initial Rec 709 curve on HLG). Makes me wonder how similar a carefully graded HLG project could be to Dolbyvision in its end look and flexibility across displays.
X900h should have local dimming on medium to preserve spectacular highlights. I suspect the highlights are clipping on the x900h here.
Games always start with some calibration. Meaning the game is mapped to your TV max nits. By your explanation DV does not matter in this case, as a 1000nit monitor per game calibration will have matched content.
Good information but the average consumer doesn't know about Dolby vision and doesn't care.
video is not for the avg consumer
its the same thing with music..audio nowdays is mastered (compressed) to please airpod and bluetooth speaker users..or else the lowest common denominator..
How often do we see horses in the snow? I just got through watching back to back Hateful Eight, and Revenant:)
but there's excellent optimizer of Panasonic uhd palyer for all other hdr
I use Dolby Vision iQ on my Lg Oled TV and only for Amazon Prime Movies in Dolby Vision, that is awesome. For Games normal Hdr looks much better in my Eyes. 👍
LG C1 added special setting for DVi you can basically use all 5 settings EVEN vivid and it looks accurate I've never seen good vivid setting before
So, if I understand correctly what you have said at the end of your very informative video, Dolby Vision could at times enable Samsung TVs to get more accurate colors according to the creator intents?
It will also could be more useful in the future when the TV standards will be more uniform and the movie creators feel more confident to make movies with more luminance without the risk for some consumers to loose picture details?
Doby Vision, while not being that essential for now, is a kind of insurance for future picture quality?
Interesting video.
I'm looking for a new TV, preferably a Samsung as I have the Samsung q600c 3.1.2 soundbar which I have paired up rear surround speakers 🔊 to, for a 5.1.2 audio.
However, some of the content I have is in Dolby Vision which appears in Green and Purple as my current TV doesn't support Dolby Vision, just 4k uhd hdr, so if I played the same content on a Samsung TV, I would have the same issue wouldn't I, as Samsung TVs aren't in Dolby Vision?
Brilliant video, I mainly only use DTM on Xbox One X, it really helps those scenes playing at 4k HDR game mode and RUclips 4k content, i don't see the benefit anywhere else? I'm probably missing something?.
Good informative videos, you always answer my questions. Except for one, what’s up with the white gloves ?
I'd be interested to see the same comparisons but using the 4000nit demo. It's more representative of content, as nothing is mastered at 10,000 and it's more of a torture test.
Sometimes you can reduce the Contrast on TV's to resolve more highlight detail in HDR 10. With the Sony 900H you can reduce the Contrast and resolve well over 4,000 nits (at Contrast of 81). You can in fact resolve around 10,000 nit highlights by going even lower then Contrast of 81. That wouldn't be ideal for content that is mastered at around 1,000 nits though (going below Contrast of 81) as you'd start to make 1,000 nit content look sort of dull and dim.
I have a question:
I play Xbox One X on an LGB9. I can calibrate HDR in the General TV & Display Options of the console.
Should I turn my B9's Dynamic Tone Mapping off during the console calibration, and turn it on afterwards? Or should I keep it activated during calibration?
It seems to make a difference with the brightness of the checkerboard patterns of the calibration sheets.
There's got to be a right way to do this.
Great video. Loved all the examples. Very informative for me. It also helped me realize that I'm not so much of a videofile. For the most part, all the images would look fine to me in my living room. Especially without having a "better" set sitting right next to it. Only the example with the sun missing in the sunrise was a big enough difference for me.
Yeah agreed. Unless you have an LG CX sitting right next to your current TV, youre not going to think a current gen TV has poor picture quality, especially if you’re upgrading from a 7 year old one like myself. So for that reason i feel like features such as two HDMI 2.1 inputs, Dolby Atmos, etc are more important for future proofing.
But samsung manufacturers iPhone screens and they are good at displaying HDR videos. Could you explain how pls?
Nope - Samsung manufactures a different tecnology for phones/tablets based on RGB OLED not QD-OLED. The former works fine for small screens but not so well for anything larger than 12".
"HDR" in games is so far behind "HDR". I also don't think PC game devs will push the limits here as they know monitors are much worse than TVs in delivering HDR-> very few monitors even have local dimming or go beyond 600 nits.
mohamedahmed1023 that’s why Xbox is king for the HDR experience. It even has auto HDR to add hdr to non hdr games
@@retrogamer64007 Adding HDR to SDR content seems like a crapshoot.
@@mohamedahmed1023 everyone thought the same with dlss upscaling but it turns out that dlss can beat native resolution in some instances.
@@truthx7 So you're saying that because an unrelated technology was criticized initially (because it did suck initially) and then improved tremendously, I should reserve judgement this time around?
I'll reserve judgement but a whole lot of things need to go well here.
mohamedahmed1023 it’s not. My Sony TV does that with X-tender and SDR movies look gorgeous. Bright areas are bright and dark areas like night scenes are dark. Makes picture look like real life in terms of lighting
FINALLY! Thank you FOMO! Now i have a proof to show everyone why i hate DTM ON on my LG C9 for regular HDR content and gor gaming. Keep the good work.
Why not have a setting on all 4K TV for adjustment for NITS brightness.... Is it possible?
So is the overall point dolby vision is a technology thats useless right now beyond some color accuracy if you lower the luminance? What about tv shows? The word "movies" was specifically used. Where does DV stand with netflix series?
I don't agree. I have the Sony 900H and it's incredible. I wasn't a fan of LG CX because I don't have a blackout room. It looked washed out when there's even minimal light contrast in the room. The Sony was the perfect choice for me. Dolby Vision is a game changer. Watching Mandolorian on this TV is insanely good. Bright, vibrant and detailed.
What is the best HDR tv out now except the OLED? i got the x900h on a bestbuy deal for 900 dollars 65 inch but i know there is better out there
Sony 950h is the best non oled
Nice video! The biggest question left for me is what kind of input lag will these TV's have in Dolby Vision?
Thank you, I really loved this presentation! Easy to understand and great practical demonstrations!
Thank you FOMO. I have an LG 49SK8000 IPS tv. Among other thing I am an artist, oil painter. I do have a decent color sense. To me the SK8000 is putting out correct color. It feels right to me to the extent that I don't feel the need to tweak much. I just throw it on HGR Effect(low) and watch away. I also know this TV doesn't get extremely bright but in a lot of the 'HDR' (Dolby Vision) programming it seems bright enough. In truth a lot of the dark scenes I think maybe could be brighter but in general okay. I watch TV in a semi bright room and if watching movies there is still ambient light which is my preference. Looking at recent models which punch out much higher 'HDR' levels I was wondering what exactly would be gained if for the most part the TV I have is plenty bright enough. I think I'll look at another TV in the near future but maybe the notion of chasing higher numbers that may never show anyhow should not be my main issue. Again, thanks!
Ehh, if more producers supported HDR 10+, I would consider it, but as of right now I think I only own 1 movie with hdr 10+, while the rest have hdr 10, or Dolby vision. So, unless there is any chance of seeing a 12 bit panel in the next year, I will probably buy a Sony Dolby Vision, especially since Disney is supporting Dolby vision…
@stop the FOMO. What are your thoughts on player-led Vs TV-led DoVi. It seems a Tv like the A8H is only able of handling player-led from external sources making the DoVi picture dimm and flat.
Did you sell your Samsung?
If u have a tv that supports 4k 120hz Dolby vision an vrr at the same time then i can tell you is amazing and a clear improvement over HDR gaming. Only LG oleds support all of these features together that's why LG OLED it's the best tv by far
How bout doing a video on the state of Dolby vision on pc for gaming? Major issues on my cx
Definitely a work in process, and the good news is that LG is apparently working on improving this area - whether they'll succeed is another matter though. I'll look into it for sure
What PC game has Dolby Vison support???
@@ilusiil battlefield 1 and mass effect andromeda. They look absolutely amazing but I can only get it to work at 1080p60 or 2160p30 and it crashes my pc when I exit the game
@@corzabourne2101 You're right. I forgot those games have DV. I couldn't get DV to work correctly in those titles either. I would get a strange red or green all screen color hue when enabling DV.
@@ilusiil if your running nvidia you have to set it to 8bit rgb in the nvidia control panel. What your seeing is a 12bit signal which either the TV or the gpu can't handle
im not understanding why he use the x900h to compare with hisense & tcl 6 series when both those tvs dont even have hdmi 2.1. obviously those tv are gonna make up for not having 2.1 + the lg is oled. it would make more sense to use the x950 to me
What would be de difference of using a 4K AV Receiver compatible with Dolby Vision? Does the receiver increase the quality even more ??
No
Dolby vision is great. Your tests and comparison just showed it. The only people that will say its worthless are the ones who doesnt have it. Human nature. That's normal.
Or they have the Hisense H9G which sadly looks washed out compared to HDR10 and this includes DV on the native Netflix app!
So you are saying that it was a mistake to buy my Sony x900h tv?
Thank you for the great information.
I noticed you don't have any content pertaining to projector screens. Is that something you plan on delving into, or is there any channel you'd recommend checking out? I would like to compare those options to the TV options.
Thanks again for your help!
I love having the best quality everything. I buy 4K Blu Rays, but I can't stop thinking about this. If a 4K Blu Ray can hold up to 100GB of storage, but still has to go through a laser, data has to transfer through HDMI, then a receiver then to your TV.... Would the best quality actually happen if a Solid State was connected directly to the TV and could transfer the data faster and more accurate?
I have been trying to get that answered forever.
It does not matter it can travel fast enough it will start a few ms later :) stream from blu-ray is only about 100 MBit you could do that via internet too but no one offers yet.
Why in HDR and Dolby vision the picture is so dark so red and blooming the light 🤔
LG on OLED limited the nit to 620 660 Dolby vision HDR is minimum 1000 2000 nit 🤯
There is no OLED over 1000 nits. GO for LCD
I watch dolby vision mostly on my 2016 b6 oled wonder what all those tv shows are made like as i can tell its better vs hdr.
Is sony x900h good for Xbox series x and when the vrr update will come?
If you NEED a tv right now( as in yours is broken, or dont have one) the X900H would be one of the few TV that will be best for seriesX.
However if you have a tv( even a 720p tv, like me). I would try to hold off. Patience is a virtue. If you like the x900h, next year will improve, and you will know how these tvs will work in real life use with consoles.
Switch to the lg nano90 it will amaze you
next year sony, samsung and lg will likely have mini led tv's like the tcl 6 series in this video. you saw how amazing the tcl was despite being very cheap. i'd say wait till next year you won't be disappointed.
@@supermadkid agreed. I just hope they are in my price range and sony gives a proper mid tier tv in 2021
How can you toggle dolby vision on or off on the LG C1? Thanks
Hey Fomo. When you do the reviews, and you show the differences, can you please show them where you havent touched the pre settings? I see you are in filmmaker mode.. but also that you have changed something in filmmaker mode as it is saying (user). It would just show more transparency. Thank you for your videos.
Why didn't you include Samsung TV? So we can see if Samsung is right or not with their TVs.
Asking because I am thinking of getting Samsung QN95A Neo and would love to see if the TV can really back up Samsung's claim.
My question is: if we own a 5-6 year old Sony TV without Dolby vision but a 4K player with Dolby vision then will our Dolby vision movie still look better.
bro i had to subscribe to you because you are definition. keep it up. I would like to see you do cellphone nits and video quality. keep it up
Great information! I feel even more confused now which tv I should get
I appreciate your tv input but you did get a few things wrong. PC develops for the lowest common denominator as well. If it was high end we would have seen the whole industry shift to ssd years ago but its just starting now.
I saw yesterday in rtings that the Q80T supoports VRR only up to 4k60. But I read too that it does support VRR at 4k120.
If it only supports 4k60, but having freesync, does it matter the VRR? I am not sure how it works
i used to buy Samsung tvs...then hdr came out. Netflix is full of dv movies/shows. There's how many hdr+ movies? 10?
Also, since most movies aren't even real "hdr", i'm guessing the lower brightness of the oleds doesn't matter much for the hdr effect
Content is the big issue. Only Amazon are really supporting HDR10+, which is a big detractor when most other companies support Dolby Vision. Samsung gets rejected for that reason.
Can we get some review on gaming monitors that are compatible and can be use for upcoming Xbox series X or PS5, To clarify my question is since most of the gamers are not using TV anymore because the subscription based TV like netflix, disney+ and others that can be viewed thru these gaming machine or PC then what if we just go directly to a PC shop and buy a gaming monitor for the xbox or ps rather than going to an appliance store and buy a specialize tv, what is a different between not having a tv aerial receiver at the back if you will use it for gaming the whole time.
I really wonder, why wasn't HDR10 dynamic from the very beginning when they initially designed it?
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