They now have a barebones version for about $500-$600 less depending on which one you get, same HW just no ROG logo, RAM or HDD. I wound up getting one because the Mini-ITX builds I could/did make were larger and nosier and I needed something quiet and that took up little space as my office is already full of gear (ML engineer) I'm testing, using, configuring for IoT type stuff. The mini-itx build I made will probably go into my Living Room for gaming and streaming. TL/DR - for certain edge cases it makes a good work station at its bare bones pricing, Lenovo and Dell already small work stations with server/workstation style GPUs for about the same price or even more, meaning: it shouldn't have been targeted at gamers, more like professionals who are short on space and need a workstation with a GPU.
Its sad because if the pricing was more reasonable they would fly off the shelves. All the power of a decent PC in a form factor smaller than modern consoles if it werent for the price whats not to love. It looks like the future of PCs is more and more integrated into the motherboard, if thats the case hopefully more players get into the game and we get lower priced versions.
@@Drunken_Horse well, a pc isn't for only gaming. It can & built to do a lot of complex stuff. It's a powerhouse for career development, academics & industries. It's like somebody wants to use a quantum computer just for gaming... Well it can do that but that won't be cheap. Thats why pcs are priced higher than consoles. Plus inflation & greedy company policies.
Part of the price IS the mini form factor. I don't personally like it, but it's a necessary evil. It's still better than a laptop, but you can choose your peripherals. Nvidia are assholes, though.
It's a laptop without a screen. Laptop components, Laptop performance at a Laptop price. Just buy a laptop and then you can take it everywhere with you.
I think the people this was made for know who they are. This is a niche item, and I myself am still planning on getting one, despite the less than ideal price to performance ratio. The thing I'm most interested in is the low power usage, even at full tilt. I don't feel like doing the math, but I would imagine the cost difference will be made up for by the lower electric bills in roughly a year or so. I guess the real issue would be how well it can keep up in a year or 2 from now.
Who is the target demographic for this PC? It's price to performance is terrible, its basically an Asus G16 without a monitor but more expensive. I don't know if a 10"x7" form factor is what I'd call mini. Might as well get a 14" laptop and dock it at that point, or a mini ITX build with desktop components.
What a great lil SFF mini PC 💪😇🤤🥰👍 I personally have a very very similar sized SFF mini PC as my lounge room HTPC setup featuring: Ryzen 5800X3D, Zotac RTX 4070 O/C, 32 gb DDR4 (2x 16gb), 2 x 2TB NVME + 1 x 4TB SATA SSD in a Skyreach Mini S4 case (PS2 sized case). It handles fast fps titles 1440p / 4K no problem as well as 4K DLSS Quality gaming at 60fps+ in many single player titles (I need to use Balanced DLSS for UE5 titles)
Great review. Also, Asus are competing with themselves here, having released exactly what you described, the"ASUS 2023 ROG G22CH." It is exactly a small form-factor pc that still fits in a livingroom next to a TV, and it has a full desktop RTX 4070. It has phenomenal performance, and I have felt no reason to upgrade. It even costs the same as this new NUC.
DOA, for what costs it you can get a gaming laptop with rtx 4080, build in keyboard, screen, etc....or build a mini gaming PC with a desktop components with way better performance.
Looks like that ROG NUC had cooling support for the 4090 16GB Laptop Mobile GPU (which had 3080TI desktop performance from Jarrod's Tech comparison @10:13 ) Considering the NUC is using a power brick that would make for a great 2.5L mini-PC gaming experience.
Never understood why they couldn't just call them a 4070"M" or something Anyways ... like you said, just buy a laptop for same or less, or build a mini itx thing. Are they just expensive here in australia, like comparison wise in america what are they like ?
Not many big companies you can trust the warranty on these days. Have to factor that in when buying high price items that you might not get the warranty service you might used to expect. Sad but true.
If Asus wanted to fix their image they would drop the price of these PCs. They are good but way overpriced for what you actually get. For these prices I could build a wayyyyyyyy better computer.
The NUC is a pc that doesnt know what it is, probably why intel sold it off. If its ultra portability you are looking for then you would be better off getting a gaming laptop. This may be worth getting if it was around $1400 USD max.
Are you a PC builder? Yes - Build an SSF PC No - Consider this or a similarly speced laptop Ultimately this seems like it's for people that use laptops like desktops by permanently docking it to power and a monitor.
Might I suggest changing the way you mention USB ports by their speeds instead of their name? Like, USB 3.2 doesn't tell us anything, does it have 5 Gbps or 10 Gbps, that's what I wanna know. It's a little thing that irks me, but thanks for the vid.
This is total trash PC. Its expensive fashion statement and not a desktop PC. like many said. you can get same spec notebook from Asus, with monitor and keyboard, or built alot better SFF custom PC. its DOA, and anyone who buys this, needs to contact me asap, since i have some investment tips for you
This should be 1200$ US, at max. It does not have a screen, speakers, battery, keyboard, trackpad, aluminium frame, it has minimum portability and only if monitor etc. are already there.
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They now have a barebones version for about $500-$600 less depending on which one you get, same HW just no ROG logo, RAM or HDD. I wound up getting one because the Mini-ITX builds I could/did make were larger and nosier and I needed something quiet and that took up little space as my office is already full of gear (ML engineer) I'm testing, using, configuring for IoT type stuff. The mini-itx build I made will probably go into my Living Room for gaming and streaming. TL/DR - for certain edge cases it makes a good work station at its bare bones pricing, Lenovo and Dell already small work stations with server/workstation style GPUs for about the same price or even more, meaning: it shouldn't have been targeted at gamers, more like professionals who are short on space and need a workstation with a GPU.
Its sad because if the pricing was more reasonable they would fly off the shelves. All the power of a decent PC in a form factor smaller than modern consoles if it werent for the price whats not to love. It looks like the future of PCs is more and more integrated into the motherboard, if thats the case hopefully more players get into the game and we get lower priced versions.
agreed. especially since my space is small and budget aren't huge, this would have been a game changer.
maybe one day it will happen
@@Drunken_Horse well, a pc isn't for only gaming. It can & built to do a lot of complex stuff. It's a powerhouse for career development, academics & industries.
It's like somebody wants to use a quantum computer just for gaming... Well it can do that but that won't be cheap.
Thats why pcs are priced higher than consoles. Plus inflation & greedy company policies.
@@bigfootrobot2115- I agree with that but this is clearly targeted at Gamers seeing as Asus have put it under the Republic of Gamers brand.
i got excited until i saw the price lmao i could buy a pretty powerful prebuilt for that money or build and even better one if i could be bothered
Part of the price IS the mini form factor. I don't personally like it, but it's a necessary evil. It's still better than a laptop, but you can choose your peripherals. Nvidia are assholes, though.
It's a laptop without a screen. Laptop components, Laptop performance at a Laptop price. Just buy a laptop and then you can take it everywhere with you.
you can buy the same mini PC from misinform for half the price
I think the people this was made for know who they are. This is a niche item, and I myself am still planning on getting one, despite the less than ideal price to performance ratio. The thing I'm most interested in is the low power usage, even at full tilt. I don't feel like doing the math, but I would imagine the cost difference will be made up for by the lower electric bills in roughly a year or so. I guess the real issue would be how well it can keep up in a year or 2 from now.
I think its cool.
Who is the target demographic for this PC?
It's price to performance is terrible, its basically an Asus G16 without a monitor but more expensive. I don't know if a 10"x7" form factor is what I'd call mini. Might as well get a 14" laptop and dock it at that point, or a mini ITX build with desktop components.
What a great lil SFF mini PC 💪😇🤤🥰👍
I personally have a very very similar sized SFF mini PC as my lounge room HTPC setup featuring:
Ryzen 5800X3D, Zotac RTX 4070 O/C, 32 gb DDR4 (2x 16gb), 2 x 2TB NVME + 1 x 4TB SATA SSD in a Skyreach Mini S4 case (PS2 sized case). It handles fast fps titles 1440p / 4K no problem as well as 4K DLSS Quality gaming at 60fps+ in many single player titles (I need to use Balanced DLSS for UE5 titles)
Awesome video! These are dope. It seems these things would benefit from one of our EXT setups... ;D
Thanks for your demo how to open the case!!
They’ve gotta be dreaming with that pricing structure.
Great review. Also, Asus are competing with themselves here, having released exactly what you described, the"ASUS 2023 ROG G22CH."
It is exactly a small form-factor pc that still fits in a livingroom next to a TV, and it has a full desktop RTX 4070. It has phenomenal performance, and I have felt no reason to upgrade. It even costs the same as this new NUC.
Why would anyone wants to over a laptop with same spec? I mean price is one thing but it's using mobile CPU and GPU. I see no benefit for this at all
@@edhirxtrastrange yeah would love this if the price was 300 is less
so,.. a laptop without a screen?
Why no mention of temps
even though it’s got some mobile hardware in it, 2.5L is really impressive for something from Asus
Better title 😂 :
This SFF Mini PC ALMOST Broke the bank - ROG NUC 970
Rog tax on top of already expensive tiny everything design
Its stronger than our pc 😅
DOA, for what costs it you can get a gaming laptop with rtx 4080, build in keyboard, screen, etc....or build a mini gaming PC with a desktop components with way better performance.
Looks like that ROG NUC had cooling support for the 4090 16GB Laptop Mobile GPU (which had 3080TI desktop performance from Jarrod's Tech comparison @10:13 )
Considering the NUC is using a power brick that would make for a great 2.5L mini-PC gaming experience.
I'm sorry but $2200 usd Im building my own upgradable SFF, oppposed to this 2year(max) shelf life PC.
after testing this one and gt7 pt on Amd I choose Amd Atomman G7 PT.,more outputs, much less loud while gaming.
Never understood why they couldn't just call them a 4070"M" or something
Anyways ... like you said, just buy a laptop for same or less, or build a mini itx thing.
Are they just expensive here in australia, like comparison wise in america what are they like ?
You wait for the 3 month discount. It’s already on sale for $400 less
Is the wifi m.2 realtek or Intel?
just unfortunate its Asus, and you just can't trust their warranty process anymore, hence nothing they make is worth buying brand new
Not many big companies you can trust the warranty on these days. Have to factor that in when buying high price items that you might not get the warranty service you might used to expect. Sad but true.
So basically this is just a $2500 Laptop without a display 😂
If Asus wanted to fix their image they would drop the price of these PCs. They are good but way overpriced for what you actually get. For these prices I could build a wayyyyyyyy better computer.
@@Photogeek611 I know are people even buying them?
And add to that even a tiny bit of decent customer support.
@@GriotDNByah Asus has horrible customer service.
Just don’t get who this is for with such a high price tag
I was kinda liking it. Until I saw the price. Way, way too expensive.
The NUC is a pc that doesnt know what it is, probably why intel sold it off. If its ultra portability you are looking for then you would be better off getting a gaming laptop. This may be worth getting if it was around $1400 USD max.
reverse engineered laptop with no battery, screen, keyboard, touchpad, etc.. but for the same price? tf
Are you a PC builder?
Yes - Build an SSF PC
No - Consider this or a similarly speced laptop
Ultimately this seems like it's for people that use laptops like desktops by permanently docking it to power and a monitor.
Asus has absolutely destroyed their reputation for me. Never again
I never had issues with them😂
too pricey
For anyone with constrained space, these mini PCs are perfect. Nvidia are assholes, though.
A NUC9 is cheaper. CPU doesn't matter to me as long as I can play games and for a discreet GPU 😂😂
NUC9 doesn't have a discreet GPU.
igual console gamer kkkk. então Pc gamer parece diferente .
$4300 AUD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh and Asus. Big pass.
Might I suggest changing the way you mention USB ports by their speeds instead of their name? Like, USB 3.2 doesn't tell us anything, does it have 5 Gbps or 10 Gbps, that's what I wanna know. It's a little thing that irks me, but thanks for the vid.
Ideally you need both. But ideally the standard name should tell you what it is your getting
This is total trash PC. Its expensive fashion statement and not a desktop PC. like many said. you can get same spec notebook from Asus, with monitor and keyboard, or built alot better SFF custom PC. its DOA, and anyone who buys this, needs to contact me asap, since i have some investment tips for you
khadas is better
This should be 1200$ US, at max. It does not have a screen, speakers, battery, keyboard, trackpad, aluminium frame, it has minimum portability and only if monitor etc. are already there.
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Asus is terrible.