$50 oil filter!?! No Thanks John Deere! Say good bye to the 'Easy Change' Oil Filter.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video I show how to remove the $50 easy change oil filter gimmick and convert it back to a normal style oil filter.
This will drastically reduce the cost of your oil changes. I also show how to add a drain tube and some other maintenance tips.
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Great video! Easy, step by step instructions. The quick change design is so ridiculous. Glad there's a way to convert it. Thanks for helping this mechanically challenged viewer. :)
I suggest JD fire the engineer who designed this type of oil draining system. Thank you for an easy lesson.
Probably this was done by Accounting (CFO) and Sales managers. Not one drop of Mid-West farmer's blood runs in the veins of JD Management. We need to get over JD as as the ole red, white and blue.
Thank you … I really appreciate the way you simply explain what and how to perform maintenance on the E130 JD .. I can’t understand why JD put the so called easy oil change system on their engines because it still leaves about 1 and 3/4 quarts of dirty oil still in the engine after charging out the oil container … unbelievable and you pay $55 for the new oil Easy change container.. not good. Thank you again very much appreciated! USMC Veteran.
I just bought a used E130 and have to tell you this video showed everything I need to check and how to tune it up. Thank you.
I've got a ZTR 737 and 318 and I'm learning a lot. Thanks for making easy to understand videos.
I learned somewhere, many years ago, that you can use household tin foil to easily craft a funnel or make-shift trough for the oil to flow over and into your drain bucket or catch pan. Keep some good 'ole Reynold's wrap or other rolls of tin foil handy for anytime you're doing oil changes, modifications or whatever, so you can help avoid spilling oil all over everything. This was especially helpful on my motorcycle, which was not designed well at all and draining the oil would spill it directly on top of the exhaust headers. Not something I wanted to ever deal with on that bike for sure!
Just thought of another reason you could justify the easy change oil filter. Even though it's a total ripoff, many weekend warriors aren't cautious or could potentially cause damage to their lawn mower engines by not adding the correct amount of oil to the engine. By simply doing the easy change, they are less likely to burn up their mower engine, and hopefully they still check the level and add oil when necessary. Otherwise, I'm doing this oil filter conversion asap on my brand new JD mower I just bought last night! Not buying another $55+ easy change joke of a filter again!
Buying a real funnel very affordable too.
I would recommend waiting until all the oil has drained out. Then wipe out the oil filter hole really good and use a little lock tight on the oil filter nipple going into the engine block. This will keep it from unscrewing with the oil filter.
Whoever came up with that oil change concept for John Deere should be fired what a major black eye for John Deere
Its a ridiculous gimmick / money grab
I suspect JD was going for planned obsolescence.
The engine is the most expensive part of a mower. If it fails, most people will just buy a new mower rather than replace the engine especially if the mower is more than 8 or 10 years old.
Perhaps, this is what JD is banking on. However, in light of all the articles and RUclips videos exposing the fallacy of the "30-second" system it seems to have backfired. Realizing the risk to future sale, perhaps this is why JD now offers a refit kit to revert to a standard oil change system.
@@vtramell3196 It wouldn't be so bad if they didnt cost $50. I can do the conversion and a do full conventional oil change (replacing all the oil) for less than that Easy Change oil filter alone cost
Hey Mechanical Mind I'm Brendon my neighbor has an E120 with the easy change system and I told him he needs to order the conversion kit so I'm gonna help him do it and his v twin will thank us.
Hi ! I saw your video and I just converted my John Deere E150. thank you very much for your explanations !
Thank you for the imformation I am going to change my fathers JD E130 to be able to change the oil and filter cheaper, Love your videos keep up the good work!
Wish we could somehow lobby JD or send them a petition to get rid of this system. The only other way is to not buy JD mowers. I had 2 JD (2001 and 2015) both still going strong. No problems, just normal maintenance. Hate to start looking at other brands.
They should have had that oil drain extension and a normal spin on oil filter on it from the factory 🧐.
John Deere Easy change, some EZ change for John Deere. Conversion is the only way to go, imo.
Great video. Thank you for all the useful information.
Good job on the video. I learned a lot. Thanks
Thanks and thanks for watching Kenneth 🍻
Great video. About the best one I’ve seen. Thanks.
Thanks!
I'd like to see one of the EC filters cut open. If it has filter media the full length, that's a hell of an oversize filter, and I'll just leave the EC filter on and replace the crankcase oil, once or twice, and replace the EC filter on the 2nd or 3rd crankcase oil change. If it turns out the filter media is just a short section like the standard filter and most of it is empty space, then convert to a regular one.
Awesome video man. Very helpful
Thanks for watching 🍻
I found out that the John Deere branded motor oil(at least in my region) is quite reasonably priced, grease too.
The easy change filters are now $ 58 including tax. If they sold them for $25 I would still buy them, but they are just ripping people off. I did the conversation today in about 45 minutes. The new filter and oil were about $12. The only pain in the butt was the original drain plug! It’s set way back in where it’s hard to get a wrench on! I’m sure you can buy that square socket. But I didn’t want to go out looking for one. I managed with a short 11 mm open end wrench, a large screwdriver for prying it up. Once you break the plug free, your home free. Thanks for the video on this as it really helped
I just bought a new S170 Lowes, if do this conversation, does it affects the warranty? I also bought the extended warranty from Lowes. I really LOVE the tractor.
no it doesn't.
Did you do this conversion on your S170?
I am a bit hesitant to buy the parts because none of the kits show the S170 as a compatible model.
Shouldn’t be legal to sell something like that. People out there blowing up their motors so either way John Deere is making bank.
Can I ask u a question can I use a oil that is sj in a motor that calls for sn I waunt to use stens shield oil instead of jd oil.the motor is a 22 hp briggs v twin dont under stand those numbers can u explain thank u
The S means it's for petrol engine and the second letter is the latest version of the performance addictive. I wouldn't lose any sleep using any 10w-30 or 5w-30 on that engine. Those are actually really good engines. Just make sure to change the oil AND the oil filter. If the oil level gets too high check to see if the oil has gas in it. Which can be caused by the fuel pump. Other than that and adjusting the valve clearances at every 200 hours it's a really good engine.
@@Mechanical_Mind thank u
Easy change filter only holds 8oz of oil, what was JD thinking when they came up with that idea.
Im looking to by a jd s170. Hate the idea of having the easy change bs on it but wondering if this conversion would affect the warranty.
I can only tell you from my experience when working at a JD dealership. I'm sure things vary between dealerships depending on management, etc. The oil filter conversion would only affect a warranty claim if the conversion caused the issue being claimed. The most common warranty issues with a 100 series mower was a deck issue. Like a spindle or idler going bad. The oil filter used on the engine would have nothing to do with it. However, if you ran the engine out of oil, and it was caused by an oil leak caused by the customer doing the oil filter conversion, it would NOT be covered under warranty. I leaking gasket or seal other than the oil filter conversion should still be covered under warranty.
@@Mechanical_Mind ok that sounds good then. Hey man thank for your reply.
Why convert back to a littler oil filter (I’ve seen both cut out of the can and 30 sec change filter is over twice the size) I’m sure this has been tested and proven to work fine by John Deere and what’s a few extra bucks after spending a few thousand for your mower and tell me has anyone heard of any issues with this system because I have not.
. The biggest issue is the price for the filter alone, $50. Plus, you still normally need to add about 1 quart after installing the easy change filter.
The filter can be hard to find at times. The JD dealership I worked at would often run out of them so people had to wait days longer for their " 30 second oil change"
The 2nd issue is that it only replaces a portion of the oil, about 1/3.
After doing the conversion, you can then change the oil and a conventional filter for $20 while replacing all the oil.
Ive already done the conversion, I just don't know what to do with the old filter. I really don't want to just throw it in the trash with a quart or so of oil in it.
You can dispose of it the same way you do regular oil filters or drop it off at your local JD dealer service department. Thanks for watching!
Ya know the cost of John Deere lawn & garden tractors ya thick they would make that standard on their machines
Didn't lube the front end steering joints.
This video wasn't about what to lube
Do those part numbers work on a S130?
Hi Omar, yes. I just looked at a S130 to confirm before replying. The S130 has a upgraded hood and also some improved belt guides but the engine is the same.
Thank u so much...
JUST A THOUGHT COULDN'T YOU JUST SUCK OUT THE OIL FROM ENGINE AND STILL USE THE QUICK CHANGE FILTER? YES I KNOW YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO BUY THE QUICK CHANGE FILTER AND ADDITIONAL OIL.
Yes, that's how we do it at the shop. This video was for the average person at home who may not have an extractor pump. Also, those filters alone cost $50! You can do the conversion and change all the oil for less $. Then after that full oil and filter changes will not cost more than $20.
Would these parts work on an S120 model
Yes
I did the conversation for my dad called just deere just to be curious they said it voids the warranty
Only if the issue trying to be claimed under warranty is caused by what the customer did. If your engine runs out of oil or too low on oil for example it wouldn't be covered under warranty any way. Just like if you hit a rock or tree or and damage your spindle or deck that too would not be covered under warranty. A manufacturing defect not related or caused by your replacement of the oil filter would still be covered.
@Mechanical_Mind that makes sense thanks for your input ....
will doing this void the warranty?
Probably…. 😞
Cringed w that chrome 12pt socket on the impact.
Yeah I know🤣. Its all I had and I knew it wasn't very tight.
@@Mechanical_Mind Well plus you won't be reusing that part, but I feared for the socket. Thanks for the vid though! I just bought the adapter and a normal filter for mine. Get you an oil extractor and you'll never remove another drain plug as long as you live.
@@sqranch2904 we use oil extractors at work for most things. Its so much better but I dont keep one at home.
Buy another kind if mower. John Deer not what they used to be. Even with proper maintenance they don't hold up.
I wouldn’t put pennzoil on a bicycle chain !
Cringed when I seen the wd-40 being sprayed on the rubber hoses...I was always told it attacks rubber
Its safe for rubber. I was just thinking I should do a video on WD-40. It has a ton of great uses that are not very well known. Ethanol in the gasoline does eat away at rubber like the fuel line hose on mowers.
Ethanol is bad for rubber, (try to run ethanol free gas, if you can find it), WD-40 the WD stands for "Water Displacement", it repels water.
5w50 mobil 1
If its a shitty product dont buy it
Many of the later models come standard with that oil filter on it. The mower is not a bad product. It just has that oil filter feature that many people dont like including myself. This video is to show how to easily change it back to the old conventional filter.
@@Mechanical_Mind yeah i know im saying dont buy that bullshit