Kim and Tom are really on point. Imagine a person not as confident, outspoken as them, for sure nothing will change. These problems should be addressed and there should be solutions that will cater for goods of everyone. Thank You for being the voice for some who prefer not to speak out for whatever reason.
Saint Lukes is a very expensive hospital. There are a lot of good hospitals in Manila and Cebu that are at par with hospitals in the US or Europe. Most of our specialists here are trained abroad. Some people in the US come here for treatment specially in the field of dentistry because of the high cost medical procedure abd the waiting time takes months
Watching from France, am a nurse too. I understand very well the situation. It was very good that you were able to check the details of your bills. It happened many times not only in the Philippines but also in n other countries. Take care Kimtom and family ❤❤❤
Yes. As foreighners, you can finf insurance and choose an affordable hospitals, clinics, doctors, laboratory... same with us when we migrate to another country medical expenses are huge... health insurance is really one of the primary concern and expense...
Can I just say that I love how you both don't cut the video to "deal with the kids" I love that about you both. That is how it is when you've got littles running around and it's life. I know you guys are genuine and not uppity whatsoever. It's a good thing for the kids too knowing that you're there for them no matter what. Congrats again to you all especially to Kuya/Manong Onyx and Ate/Manang Iraya. ❤❤❤
As a foreigner living here in manila for 15 years, ive had both of my kids born here, and several times hospitlized, i have family doctors (wifes side) working in st lukes and makati med, plus ive been been to both as a patient or family as a patient plus ive also been to more mid tier hospitals, LONG STORY SHORT - do NOT ever go to these high tier hospitals, they are complete ripoffs and will try to over exagerate EVERYTHING, i 100% can NOT stand the high end hospitals like st lukes and makati med, they are VERY VERY greedy hospitals, i had the exact same issues at both hospitals, recently my son was at makati med just for dizzyness, they tried to get him in ICU, ICU???? not just ICU but whole family would be required to take covid tests (at a very high price) and be charged for isolation rooms on top of ICU room. Its disgusting to think the doctors and nurses there are willing to bankrupt a family just so they can get those $$$... i kept saying to the doctor ''but that doesnt make sense'' referring to just common sense reactions to what ever they just said, something just felt off. Ive never had this problem in mid tier hospitals, the care is authentic, if you dont need a surgeon they dont send you a surgeon. They give the required care and dont milk you like youre an idiot with unlimited funds. Long story short guys, dont go to st lukes or makati med.
Hi ! True to all you had stated! I had the same problems with St Luke’s and Mkt Med when I took my brother there . They look at you as a BANK THAT CAN PROVIDE CASH TO THEIR NEED BUT NOT CARING for that PARTICULAR person taken in. They look also on your appearance and if they knew you live Overseas they WILL ripped you off . Both of these Private Hospitals ( ST LUKES IN BGC AND MAKATI MED ) they will charged you for even the smallest items like gloves , other items they had used to do physical test when it should already be included in the Charges of Consultations . DISGUSTING INDEED! ! Thnx for Sharing ! 👍🌞
So proud of you two, hope you're journey over there in the Philippines is as beautiful as it was in the UK. Great name choices and you two definitely make good looking babies haha! Congrats! Much love from Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Kim, my younger sister was taking her treatment for her stage 2 cervical cancer there in St. Lukes. They have modern technology just like here in the US. They took good care of her and assisted her right away. St. Lukes is one of the popular hospital in the Philippines. It's expensive but they do their job.
I learned something from you guys!.. my total bill CSection in a different hospital was around 130k in Chinese Gen Hospital. It was a big private room but glad that I was taken care for... thanks for this advise, I would never try to check everything incase this happened to me... thank you guys for letting us know :) we really appreciate your efforts in making these videos..
22:50 that’s the reason George and Lucy decided to deliver Koda in the UK because they wanted full presence of George during all stages of labor in the birthing process. They don’t have any of their family members in the Phil. too so the UK was their choice so they can share their joy with both of their families with them. Last, in the UK it’s free so why will they spend so much in the Phil. if they can have a good quality and free service in the UK.
It’s only free if you go to a government hospital (NHS), but if you go to a private hospital the cost is even higher than the Philippines…almost double.
@@Kitkat-wu3owI think it’s just harder for them to live in the Philippines even if they wanted to. First, hindi sila citizens. Not like the kito fam. They have Filipino family so easier for them with everything. They can just decide to move back and forth.
Thank you for sharing your experience and the actual cost. I gave birth at Providence Hospital in QC back in 2019. We stayed there for only 2 days. We paid nearly 200k, too. Philhealth was already deducted from these fees. 70k was the fee for delivery and for pedia (catching) and all other newborn tests/vaccines. 120k is the "Professional Fee" my OB charged me. She said that also includes the PF for the anesthesiologist and the surgery assistant (I had a C-section). It is still a positive experience as they allowed my husband to be with me while being operated on.. they even offered for my husband to cut the cord, but he was so scared and didn't wanna do it. It was actually the one who took the video and photos. They forwarded it to me when I was in the recovery room.
Been watching Kim since her firsr ever video which was a mukbang with her friend, and to see your family grow is so amazing. Wishing you all so much love and happiness ❤❤❤
Congratulations! Thank you for sharing your experience. That was very eye opening and disappointing to hear the differences compared to previous experiences. Glad all went well and baby Orien and Kim are healthy and well. Definitely will take heed to do due diligence. Congratulations again for Orien.
I'm a Filipina, and I had my first baby in the Philippines. It only cost me P27,000 at a private hospital. For my second baby, I had it in the UK. 1. St. Luke's is one of the pricier private hospitals in the Philippines, so be ready for higher costs compared to other hospitals. 2. It's pretty normal in the Philippines, especially in private hospitals, for husbands not to be allowed in the delivery room. Only the patient can go in, unless you’ve specifically talked to your OBGYN about your wishes. Just because you’re paying for their services doesn’t mean you can ignore the hospital rules. 3. The way the UK and PH handle patients is really different. I was surprised I could even be with my husband during delivery when I had mine! Honestly, I think what you're feeling might be a bit of paranoia about everything going on these days, even questioning medication from professionals. That's totally okay, though. If you're thinking about giving birth in a country you're not familiar with, just do a bit of research first. Remember, you're not just paying the bills; you're also relying on the staff.
I just had a cs here in Philippines- Iloilo, had to give birth alone which was so scary, definitely different than more western countries, luckily I had my trusted ob there, but definitely scary as a first time mom😢
The reason of the price I think is that it is a private hospital. Next time if ever you can have asked already your obstetrician of the cost approximately. Stay Happy
Welcome to the world baby Orien and thanks for the video Kito Family 😊. Prices in the hospitals here in the Philipines are pricey specially if you will go to the top tier hospitals. Which is why Filipinos are very dependent in HMO health insurance and Philhealth because they helped lowring down medical bills. Like you can have a free checkup and laboratory exams even in st.Lukes if you have HMO health insurance.
its not the high prices thats bad, its about how st lukes treats people. they are not upfront with their prices and they commit fraud. the surgeon charging for consultation is outright fraud and is a criminal act in the philippines punishable by jailtime and revocation of your medical license
Philippine Healthcare system is still not a well defined delivery system. We don’t have a socialized medicine and it’s purely fee for service model. I used to work in healthcare administration in U. S. And now retiring hopefully to go back to Ph apparently Healthcare will be a problem and am fully aware of that. My thought is to buy a healthcare insurance plan to cover me there because CASH will not be available all the time. My recommendation for kito family if by any means you can purchase a health plan coverage since you’re living there now that should help si you don’t get surprises at the end . Pacific Cross is one I’m looking at since it’s administrated by Australian based and can have reasonable premiums to cover major medical services . You can ask for a quote to cover family health plan. It is really wise to obtain a family insurance especially you may not know what other unexpected scenarios can happen in the future
I agree with you Kim! When I was confined at SLMC BGC, they took so many expensive tests that I believe were not really necessary. They even did some of these tests TWICE!!!😡 They should realize that every centavo or peso coming out of my pocket is hard earned money. That's one thing I did not like in my confinement experience in SLMC BGC. The SLMC management should seriously look into this!!!
Im an Obstetrician at Medical Center Taguig...its also near BGC...our Delivery package there is way cheaper than St. Lukes...some of our patients there are patients who cant tolerate St. Lukes price..
I think the price in St Lukes is reasonable but good you have another cheaper place to recommend Doctor. Even in the States doctors order too many diagnostic procedures to prevent doctors from being sued because diagnostic tests will not lie and I've seen that everywhere. They can not be cheap when services are top level.
In the Philippines, usually, they won't let anyone in during delivery. just you, the OB, and the assisting nurses inside the surgical room. idk why tho
I agree with Kim's comment. They should at least give a aprox of the price. I was there one time and they asked me to create an online account where you could see real time the billing updating, item and price and the total. Maybe they forgot to tell you. Still, I think they should be able to tell people more about prices prior to everything.
I’m sure there are package deals every hospital have for delivery. Maybe Kim didn’t know that or was not informed. Usually, when the expectant parents decide which hospital they choose, different packages are explained to them so they can choose which one suit their preference. Paying private or with insurance …..That includes the type of room, private or not, with aircon, just fan or nothing at all, luxury service or standard. All these things are shown to expectant parents. I’m surprised they were not informed of these package deals. Preparing for delivery take months esp. finances and what hospital to go. They could have that planned out and choose which package even a month before the expected date of delivery. So when the time comes even if a day early, admitting in the hospital is smooth and expenses are sort of expected already
I still remember the first times I started watching your vlog about the pregnancy test result, and that was baby Onyx. cant believe I follow through until here, the 3rd baby. Happy for u. stay strong and happy
I liked where you said they monitored you the old fashioned way with their hands. You did not say whether they had a monitor on your baby the whole time, but birth stories I hear now in the 2010-2023's is that is normal, and is not conducive the resulting in a natural birth, but contributing to a high incidence of Caesarians.
I totally agree with all the points brought up. However, for $3500 in a top tier hospital is a steal. 15 yrs ago My wife gave birth to my youngest child in a crappy, below standard hospital with very rude nurses ( i almost lost my wife and child) in the united states it cost me $23k. I was just glad that my wife and child are both alive. Anyhow, congratulations to your new member of the family. Enjoy your kids they grow so fast.😊
Thanks for sharing your experience with your viewers. Kim- glad you followed your instinct and agree with you in regards to billing system. Again congratulations to your growing family. ❤️🇵🇭🇺🇸 watching from California, U.S.A.
200K+ likewise @ Asian Hospital. Better to get an HMO, so you won't have to worry that much when you need to have emergency hospitalizations/health consultations.
You are in the surgical room just incase if their is any emergency they can act immediately to save you and the baby. Saint Lukes is practicing the highest standard protocol any hospital can offer.
this is actually a very very informative. i like they pointed out all those things which is actually right. Hospitals specially for OBs they should understand that the one who is giving birth would feel more at ease and has more strength if they could see their partner by their side.Though I gave birth on a public maternity hospital which by the way is much cheaper although just be prepared on how the staff will treat you. 😂 I did not experience any epidural so I really need to bear the pain from start to finish but with just one push poor baby is out. But I like how things you guys discuss this and it really is an eye opening for those who is looking for a great service. Bottomline is that never ever be afraid to ask your questions. I really you guys and I hope I could attend your meet and greet but Im too far away .. but maybe next time . hope to see you and your wonderful family and I hope you could have a podcast
well this is the disappointing part of Philippines' Healthcare system but my advice is that you need to have a doctor whom you knew or someone you can trust coz almost every hospitals haS its own motives precisely its pure business😮
Healthcare is really expensive when you don't get it for 'free' like in the UK. And definitely not great when they are not upfront about how much it would cost. The difference that I can say though when you are pregnant is that in the UK where it's free, you don't get to see the same OB-GYN throughout your pregnancy until delivery. Every hospital visit may be with a different healthcare professional. Usually, you get a midwife to deliver the baby with the doctor just monitoring as well. If the birth is getting complicated and you need to be taken to the theatre, that's when the doctor takes over. If you get taken to the theatre, your husband is also only allowed to be there at a certain time, not the whole time. I think when a patient is in the theatre or surgery room, it's usually a protocol to only have healthcare professionals in there that way there are no distractions in what they need to do inside the surgery room. The conversion from php to gbp may only be £3k but in reality if you go to a private healthcare in the UK, it would be more expensive than that.
Hi! Congratulations on your new baby! May I ask what pacifier and bottle are you using for your newborn? Is it easy to switch between breastfeeding and bottle? :)
Thanks for sharing your experience with our health system, probably this practice been going on here, most people don't read read bills like sneaky charges.. They just don't complain as in get it done & get over with,
I think BGC is part of Manila vicinity as a residence you should be qualified for free hospitalizations on the new Bagong Hospital Ng Maynila located on Roxas Blvd. It was the project of the previous mayor Isko Moreno and it just opened this year.
I completely agree, healthcare in the Philippines is really pricey😅Here in Canada, we have a pretty good health care🩵🇨🇦, though we are paying for it through our employers,still a big help❤Thanks God you did your delivery well🙏🌸God bless you & your beautiful family 🤍🇨🇦
my sis is a nurse in canada and yes they have a great health care system but the long list of waiting is frustrating. they will not accept you unless its an emergency. i guess they had positive and negative side of it
Im not very rich. Ive been going to st lukes a lot because I have so many health issue. A lot of local hospitals do not have specialized condition which is not common. Thats why St Lukes is the only they have many doctors there. I know extremely expensive but what i have other choice? I dont want to go to Singapore or US.
I’m from the US and they gave me that same drug, the oxytocin to speed up my contractions because I was stuck at 6cm for 4hrs. As soon as that drug kicked in, I was in soooo much pain!! And gave birth literally an hour and a half later. It was such an experience! Just wanted to share this! 😂♥️
If the OB is good you can have the epidural and still push. When I gave birth to my second the OB monitored it herself and she even told me it is possible to alleviate me from the pain and stress. She just watched the machine as I contract , she coached me to push. I told myself , what ???? My first OB made me suffer by removing the epidural when I began to push. My first child birth was not so pleasant . I wish I have known my second OB . The first OB was old school , ugh! This was from the same upscale hospital in the US. The second OB even transferred and upgraded me to a birthing room without added charge since it was empty at that time. That can never happen in the PI, I will be charged lots of money! And husband is always allowed in the room during child birth. 3k is reasonable . It was 6k 3 decades ago in the US. But we of course in the UK it’s socialized medicine , no or minimal out of pocket from the patient .
Last time I gave birth to my 3rd son, my bill was 25 US dollars. It was cesarean section with ligation. Semi private, doctors were amazing and the room qas air-conditioned. The hospital is in Valenzuela City. Just make sure you have philhealth.❤
Hi kito family Kim did you talked to your OB before make a decision giving birth to the saints lukes? Because in philippines when you go to fancy hospital expect high hospital bills. But if you give birth to cheaper hospital your bills will be much cheaper. Stay safe
Some of these hospitals summarily keep adding extra services that are not needed, especially if they know that you have an HMO insurance card because they know that somebody will be able to pay for those unnecessary services or tests. They don't even tell you about them.
fyi d hospital u deliver kim is for D high end families in d philippines but u can find some hospital who are neat n classy but d price are low u can research it
They chose St. Lukes ‘cause they came from the UK and from 2 experiences they had, they’re used to the high quality service and professionalism which they thought St. Luke is comparable with.
My daughter was hospitalized in Makati Med 7 years ago. Paid around 61k pesos. Our insurance in US reimbursed us $500. My husband and I stayed in the hospital for 6 days (Slept in hospital bed with her and my husband in the chair). Which you can’t do in the US. The only downside about being hospitalized in Philippines is paying out of pocket.
In NY, In Pediatrics, parents can stay with the sick child in the hospital. They allowed at least 1 parent and if it’s a private room, both can stay ‘till the child is discharge. It’s a different policy for critical care areas but in standard units, yes they can esp. pediatrics
I am a HCP working in the healthcare sector in the UK. Sorry, insisting to have your husband in the room is an entitled behaviour. Protocol in PH is different from the UK. you can’t insist on the UK way, and have your husband in the room just because it was what you envisioned. It was partly the hospital’s fault for not explaining their protocol to you, a foreigner, but you should have also asked knowing you are not familiar with PH healthcare. Different healthcare systems different protocols. NHS patients can complain but services, hospitals rarely change their protocol and bend the rules just because somebody isn’t happy. Why expect a hospital in PH to change their protocol for you? It is also not fair to other Filipino fathers who would like to witness the same moments your husband did but because they aren’t white foreigners with British accent, they didn’t get the same leeway as you did.
These hospitals (St. Luke’s and Makati Med) are disgustingly expensive and have the reputation of ripping people off. And the doctors who work there have the same mentality, they take advantage of the people/patients. So sad how greedy these people are 😢
I gave birth last 2010 in a public hospital and I paid for 100 pesos only it's like a donation 😂 no epidural and I just pushed hard. stayed for 1 day only .
Heyy i just saw your full video , and i m also foreigner in manila and i m 13 weeks pregnant and we are yet to finalize the doctor, may i know your doctor’s name please ?? That will be really helpful and if can connect personally via call or chat that would be great 😊
How much was your total hospital bill for giving birth- if you dont mind me asking? We are Americans looking to move there soon and very hesitant in giving birth at st lukes. I am due in August. @thekitofamily
4,000 dollars I think is so reasonable for giving birth in a prestigious hospital in the Philippines. In the States, you pay a co-payment of 3,000 dollars from your pocket + you pay 1000 dollars per month for insurance for a family. Not only that your OB GYNE doctor was always checking on you in the Philippines. In the States, there will be 2 to 3 pregnant women that the OB-GYNE is probably going to deliver so they show up only when the baby is crowning and so most of the time it is only one nurse who is there at your bedside checking on you every 15 minutes. In the States machines are connected to all over your body that you feel you are tied to a bed while in the Philippines it is the human eye that monitors you instead of machines the nurse monitors from the nurses's station while you suffer being tied to a bed. Anyways it just surprised me that there are so many nurses flocking around , usually in the west 2 nurses, the doctor and the anesthesiologist are the only ones in the surgical area or birthing area. Shows nurses are not paid well in the Philippines. The only thing I did not understand too was not letting your husband witness the birth of your child because you need a family support at your bedside when you are in so much pain, except extra family members who can cause interruptions on the birthing process.
There must someplace where hospitals and or doctors can be reported for over charging customers. I went to see a skin doctor and was charge an insane amount of money, and the doctor added another treatment without asking me. This should be illegal. Anybody know where I can report doctors who takes advantage of customers just because they are from a different country.
I hate to think and say, as I am also a filipino citizen, that the medical service in the Philippines is a complete rip off especially on high end hospitals. Thank you for voicing out and share your "bad" experience. This should be dealt with with professionalism.
3,000£ pound? That’s a bargain! You know how much you have to pay in Western world if you don’t have insurance specially here in the US? It’s between 100-250,000 dollars! and that’s not even a good hospital!
Who watched the whole video all the way to the end for the surprise announcement? 🤫
I enjoyed this video i wait for the next one i love you kito family from Israel
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Kim and Tom are really on point. Imagine a person not as confident, outspoken as them, for sure nothing will change. These problems should be addressed and there should be solutions that will cater for goods of everyone. Thank You for being the voice for some who prefer not to speak out for whatever reason.
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Well in in the United States it costs a lot more
Saint Lukes is a very expensive hospital. There are a lot of good hospitals in Manila and Cebu that are at par with hospitals in the US or Europe. Most of our specialists here are trained abroad. Some people in the US come here for treatment specially in the field of dentistry because of the high cost medical procedure abd the waiting time takes months
Watching from France, am a nurse too. I understand very well the situation. It was very good that you were able to check the details of your bills. It happened many times not only in the Philippines but also in n other countries. Take care Kimtom and family ❤❤❤
i love that you guys are socially aware too. thanks for showing what philippines really is wether its negative or positive. namaste
Yes. As foreighners, you can finf insurance and choose an affordable hospitals, clinics, doctors, laboratory... same with us when we migrate to another country medical expenses are huge... health insurance is really one of the primary concern and expense...
It’s a high end hospital. Consultant-led natural delivery in London will cost you around £5,500-£6,000. in a private hospital.
Can I just say that I love how you both don't cut the video to "deal with the kids" I love that about you both. That is how it is when you've got littles running around and it's life. I know you guys are genuine and not uppity whatsoever. It's a good thing for the kids too knowing that you're there for them no matter what. Congrats again to you all especially to Kuya/Manong Onyx and Ate/Manang Iraya. ❤❤❤
As a foreigner living here in manila for 15 years, ive had both of my kids born here, and several times hospitlized, i have family doctors (wifes side) working in st lukes and makati med, plus ive been been to both as a patient or family as a patient plus ive also been to more mid tier hospitals, LONG STORY SHORT - do NOT ever go to these high tier hospitals, they are complete ripoffs and will try to over exagerate EVERYTHING, i 100% can NOT stand the high end hospitals like st lukes and makati med, they are VERY VERY greedy hospitals, i had the exact same issues at both hospitals, recently my son was at makati med just for dizzyness, they tried to get him in ICU, ICU???? not just ICU but whole family would be required to take covid tests (at a very high price) and be charged for isolation rooms on top of ICU room. Its disgusting to think the doctors and nurses there are willing to bankrupt a family just so they can get those $$$... i kept saying to the doctor ''but that doesnt make sense'' referring to just common sense reactions to what ever they just said, something just felt off.
Ive never had this problem in mid tier hospitals, the care is authentic, if you dont need a surgeon they dont send you a surgeon. They give the required care and dont milk you like youre an idiot with unlimited funds. Long story short guys, dont go to st lukes or makati med.
Heed well everyone.
Hi ! True to all you had stated! I had the same problems with St Luke’s and Mkt Med when I took my brother there . They look at you as a BANK THAT CAN PROVIDE CASH TO THEIR NEED BUT NOT CARING for that PARTICULAR person taken in. They look also on your appearance and if they knew you live Overseas they WILL ripped you off . Both of these Private Hospitals ( ST LUKES IN BGC AND MAKATI MED ) they will charged you for even the smallest items like gloves , other items they had used to do physical test when it should already be included in the Charges of Consultations . DISGUSTING INDEED! ! Thnx for Sharing ! 👍🌞
That’s really unfortunate but it’s true,thank you for sharing
like i said some members of the philippine medical community are the top muggers in the country.
All of your statements is quite true but nevertheless their facilities and services are superb.😅
So proud of you two, hope you're journey over there in the Philippines is as beautiful as it was in the UK. Great name choices and you two definitely make good looking babies haha! Congrats! Much love from Canada 🇨🇦
Hi Kim, my younger sister was taking her treatment for her stage 2 cervical cancer there in St. Lukes. They have modern technology just like here in the US. They took good care of her and assisted her right away. St. Lukes is one of the popular hospital in the Philippines. It's expensive but they do their job.
like the surgeon who never did her job and yet charged them for consultation?
Could not agree more. One of the best🇵🇭
I learned something from you guys!.. my total bill CSection in a different hospital was around 130k in Chinese Gen Hospital. It was a big private room but glad that I was taken care for... thanks for this advise, I would never try to check everything incase this happened to me... thank you guys for letting us know :) we really appreciate your efforts in making these videos..
22:50 that’s the reason George and Lucy decided to deliver Koda in the UK because they wanted full presence of George during all stages of labor in the birthing process. They don’t have any of their family members in the Phil. too so the UK was their choice so they can share their joy with both of their families with them. Last, in the UK it’s free so why will they spend so much in the Phil. if they can have a good quality and free service in the UK.
@@Kitkat-wu3owexactly! I don’t watch their videos as I find them fake…my opinion only.
It’s only free if you go to a government hospital (NHS), but if you go to a private hospital the cost is even higher than the Philippines…almost double.
@@Kitkat-wu3owI think it’s just harder for them to live in the Philippines even if they wanted to. First, hindi sila citizens. Not like the kito fam. They have Filipino family so easier for them with everything. They can just decide to move back and forth.
Thank you for sharing your experience and the actual cost.
I gave birth at Providence Hospital in QC back in 2019. We stayed there for only 2 days.
We paid nearly 200k, too. Philhealth was already deducted from these fees.
70k was the fee for delivery and for pedia (catching) and all other newborn tests/vaccines.
120k is the "Professional Fee" my OB charged me. She said that also includes the PF for the anesthesiologist and the surgery assistant (I had a C-section).
It is still a positive experience as they allowed my husband to be with me while being operated on.. they even offered for my husband to cut the cord, but he was so scared and didn't wanna do it. It was actually the one who took the video and photos. They forwarded it to me when I was in the recovery room.
Been watching Kim since her firsr ever video which was a mukbang with her friend, and to see your family grow is so amazing. Wishing you all so much love and happiness ❤❤❤
Congratulations! Thank you for sharing your experience. That was very eye opening and disappointing to hear the differences compared to previous experiences. Glad all went well and baby Orien and Kim are healthy and well. Definitely will take heed to do due diligence. Congratulations again for Orien.
I'm a Filipina, and I had my first baby in the Philippines. It only cost me P27,000 at a private hospital. For my second baby, I had it in the UK.
1. St. Luke's is one of the pricier private hospitals in the Philippines, so be ready for higher costs compared to other hospitals.
2. It's pretty normal in the Philippines, especially in private hospitals, for husbands not to be allowed in the delivery room. Only the patient can go in, unless you’ve specifically talked to your OBGYN about your wishes. Just because you’re paying for their services doesn’t mean you can ignore the hospital rules.
3. The way the UK and PH handle patients is really different. I was surprised I could even be with my husband during delivery when I had mine!
Honestly, I think what you're feeling might be a bit of paranoia about everything going on these days, even questioning medication from professionals. That's totally okay, though. If you're thinking about giving birth in a country you're not familiar with, just do a bit of research first. Remember, you're not just paying the bills; you're also relying on the staff.
I just had a cs here in Philippines- Iloilo, had to give birth alone which was so scary, definitely different than more western countries, luckily I had my trusted ob there, but definitely scary as a first time mom😢
The reason of the price I think is that it is a private hospital. Next time if ever you can have asked already your obstetrician of the cost approximately. Stay Happy
Welcome to the world baby Orien and thanks for the video Kito Family 😊.
Prices in the hospitals here in the Philipines are pricey specially if you will go to the top tier hospitals. Which is why Filipinos are very dependent in HMO health insurance and Philhealth because they helped lowring down medical bills.
Like you can have a free checkup and laboratory exams even in st.Lukes if you have HMO health insurance.
its not the high prices thats bad, its about how st lukes treats people. they are not upfront with their prices and they commit fraud. the surgeon charging for consultation is outright fraud and is a criminal act in the philippines punishable by jailtime and revocation of your medical license
So happy!!! The meet & greet is in makati!!! Can't wait to see the whole KITO fam!!!!
Philippine Healthcare system is still not a well defined delivery system. We don’t have a socialized medicine and it’s purely fee for service model. I used to work in healthcare administration in U. S. And now retiring hopefully to go back to Ph apparently Healthcare will be a problem and am fully aware of that. My thought is to buy a healthcare insurance plan to cover me there because CASH will not be available all the time. My recommendation for kito family if by any means you can purchase a health plan coverage since you’re living there now that should help si you don’t get surprises at the end . Pacific Cross is one I’m looking at since it’s administrated by Australian based and can have reasonable premiums to cover major medical services . You can ask for a quote to cover family health plan. It is really wise to obtain a family insurance especially you may not know what other unexpected scenarios can happen in the future
I agree with you Kim! When I was confined at SLMC BGC, they took so many expensive tests that I believe were not really necessary. They even did some of these tests TWICE!!!😡 They should realize that every centavo or peso coming out of my pocket is hard earned money. That's one thing I did not like in my confinement experience in SLMC BGC. The SLMC management should seriously look into this!!!
Im an Obstetrician at
Medical Center Taguig...its also near BGC...our Delivery package there is way cheaper than St. Lukes...some of our patients there are patients who cant tolerate St. Lukes price..
I think the price in St Lukes is reasonable but good you have another cheaper place to recommend Doctor. Even in the States doctors order too many diagnostic procedures to prevent doctors from being sued because diagnostic tests will not lie and I've seen that everywhere. They can not be cheap when services are top level.
In the Philippines, usually, they won't let anyone in during delivery. just you, the OB, and the assisting nurses inside the surgical room. idk why tho
Oh my ghaddd yes!!! Louder! Its about time hospitals and doctors be transparent and not surprise you with overcharge bills! Ghadddd
I agree with Kim's comment. They should at least give a aprox of the price. I was there one time and they asked me to create an online account where you could see real time the billing updating, item and price and the total. Maybe they forgot to tell you. Still, I think they should be able to tell people more about prices prior to everything.
I’m sure there are package deals every hospital have for delivery. Maybe Kim didn’t know that or was not informed. Usually, when the expectant parents decide which hospital they choose, different packages are explained to them so they can choose which one suit their preference. Paying private or with insurance …..That includes the type of room, private or not, with aircon, just fan or nothing at all, luxury service or standard. All these things are shown to expectant parents. I’m surprised they were not informed of these package deals. Preparing for delivery take months esp. finances and what hospital to go. They could have that planned out and choose which package even a month before the expected date of delivery. So when the time comes even if a day early, admitting in the hospital is smooth and expenses are sort of expected already
I still remember the first times I started watching your vlog about the pregnancy test result, and that was baby Onyx. cant believe I follow through until here, the 3rd baby. Happy for u. stay strong and happy
St. Camillus Hospital in Pasig is not that expensive also ManilaMed, ChineseGen, MCU Hosp, St. Jude Hospital.
That’s still cheap compared here in USA. My wife give birth and the bill is $28k good thing we have Health Insurance
yun na bnga problema walang insurance dito!
I liked where you said they monitored you the old fashioned way with their hands. You did not say whether they had a monitor on your baby the whole time, but birth stories I hear now in the 2010-2023's is that is normal, and is not conducive the resulting in a natural birth, but contributing to a high incidence of Caesarians.
i won't mind Iraya interrupting, she's adorable 🤗♥️♥️♥️
Watch the whole video , thank you for sharing , love watching your vlogs , the Kito’s Family you guys are awesome from Toronto Canada
Very informative. Thank you kito family for sharing your personal experience. It’s worth listening to you guys.
I think that with private hospitals, charges are also based on the room type/rate.
I totally agree with all the points brought up. However, for $3500 in a top tier hospital is a steal. 15 yrs ago My wife gave birth to my youngest child in a crappy, below standard hospital with very rude nurses ( i almost lost my wife and child) in the united states it cost me $23k. I was just glad that my wife and child are both alive. Anyhow, congratulations to your new member of the family. Enjoy your kids they grow so fast.😊
I personally love if you will have a podcast. For sure I will follow wherever platform
KITO Family will be.
Thanks for sharing your experience with your viewers. Kim- glad you followed your instinct and agree with you in regards to billing system. Again congratulations to your growing family. ❤️🇵🇭🇺🇸 watching from California, U.S.A.
I really enjoy watching your parents exploring Pinas. Thanks for this video
200K+ likewise @ Asian Hospital.
Better to get an HMO, so you won't have to worry that much when you need to have emergency hospitalizations/health consultations.
You are in the surgical room just incase if their is any emergency they can act immediately to save you and the baby. Saint Lukes is practicing the highest standard protocol any hospital can offer.
In California it would cost between $25,000 to $35,000 for a normal childbirth without a medical insurance
this is actually a very very informative. i like they pointed out all those things which is actually right. Hospitals specially for OBs they should understand that the one who is giving birth would feel more at ease and has more strength if they could see their partner by their side.Though I gave birth on a public maternity hospital which by the way is much cheaper although just be prepared on how the staff will treat you. 😂 I did not experience any epidural so I really need to bear the pain from start to finish but with just one push poor baby is out. But I like how things you guys discuss this and it really is an eye opening for those who is looking for a great service. Bottomline is that never ever be afraid to ask your questions. I really you guys and I hope I could attend your meet and greet but Im too far away .. but maybe next time . hope to see you and your wonderful family and I hope you could have a podcast
well this is the disappointing part of Philippines' Healthcare system but my advice is that you need to have a doctor whom you knew or someone you can trust coz almost every hospitals haS its own motives precisely its pure business😮
Healthcare is really expensive when you don't get it for 'free' like in the UK. And definitely not great when they are not upfront about how much it would cost. The difference that I can say though when you are pregnant is that in the UK where it's free, you don't get to see the same OB-GYN throughout your pregnancy until delivery. Every hospital visit may be with a different healthcare professional. Usually, you get a midwife to deliver the baby with the doctor just monitoring as well. If the birth is getting complicated and you need to be taken to the theatre, that's when the doctor takes over. If you get taken to the theatre, your husband is also only allowed to be there at a certain time, not the whole time. I think when a patient is in the theatre or surgery room, it's usually a protocol to only have healthcare professionals in there that way there are no distractions in what they need to do inside the surgery room. The conversion from php to gbp may only be £3k but in reality if you go to a private healthcare in the UK, it would be more expensive than that.
I had the same midwife all throughout and same consultant when I had complications while pregnant. Just different midwife during birth.
Beautiful family! Kim how did you loose your belly so fast? You look amazing!
Husbands visitors even phones are not allowed inside in some public hospitals. If you need anything you communicate through handwritten letter.
Hi! Congratulations on your new baby! May I ask what pacifier and bottle are you using for your newborn? Is it easy to switch between breastfeeding and bottle? :)
Thanks for sharing your experience with our health system, probably this practice been going on here, most people don't read read bills like sneaky charges.. They just don't complain as in get it done & get over with,
I love your family❤ well done Kim and Tom raising beautiful children😘
I i think they have a package for normal and cs delivery that you can choose before the delivery date.
They do esp. high tier hospital like St. Lukes. Kim wasn’t aware or was not informed beforehand
I think BGC is part of Manila vicinity as a residence you should be qualified for free hospitalizations on the new Bagong Hospital Ng Maynila located on Roxas Blvd. It was the project of the previous mayor Isko Moreno and it just opened this year.
I completely agree, healthcare in the Philippines is really pricey😅Here in Canada, we have a pretty good health care🩵🇨🇦, though we are paying for it through our employers,still a big help❤Thanks God you did your delivery well🙏🌸God bless you & your beautiful family 🤍🇨🇦
my sis is a nurse in canada and yes they have a great health care system but the long list of waiting is frustrating. they will not accept you unless its an emergency. i guess they had positive and negative side of it
@@kaishoney9783 same in scandinavia..u have to wait loooonnnggg....
Im not very rich. Ive been going to st lukes a lot because I have so many health issue. A lot of local hospitals do not have specialized condition which is not common. Thats why St Lukes is the only they have many doctors there. I know extremely expensive but what i have other choice? I dont want to go to Singapore or US.
I’m from the US and they gave me that same drug, the oxytocin to speed up my contractions because I was stuck at 6cm for 4hrs. As soon as that drug kicked in, I was in soooo much pain!! And gave birth literally an hour and a half later. It was such an experience! Just wanted to share this! 😂♥️
If the OB is good you can have the epidural and still push. When I gave birth to my second the OB monitored it herself and she even told me it is possible to alleviate me from the pain and stress. She just watched the machine as I contract , she coached me to push. I told myself , what ???? My first OB made me suffer by removing the epidural when I began to push. My first child birth was not so pleasant . I wish I have known my second OB . The first OB was old school , ugh! This was from the same upscale hospital in the US. The second OB even transferred and upgraded me to a birthing room without added charge since it was empty at that time. That can never happen in the PI, I will be charged lots of money! And husband is always allowed in the room during child birth. 3k is reasonable . It was 6k 3 decades ago in the US. But we of course in the UK it’s socialized medicine , no or minimal out of pocket from the patient .
Congratulations on your baby boy I’m so so happy for you guys I love you guys so so much ❤
Last time I gave birth to my 3rd son, my bill was 25 US dollars. It was cesarean section with ligation. Semi private, doctors were amazing and the room qas air-conditioned. The hospital is in Valenzuela City.
Just make sure you have philhealth.❤
That's why it's $25,you have Philhealth or Medical Card in the US ,the govt is paying for your C section
Hi kito family
Kim did you talked to your OB before make a decision giving birth to the saints lukes?
Because in philippines when you go to fancy hospital expect high hospital bills.
But if you give birth to cheaper hospital your bills will be much cheaper.
Stay safe
Some of these hospitals summarily keep adding extra services that are not needed, especially if they know that you have an HMO insurance card because they know that somebody will be able to pay for those unnecessary services or tests. They don't even tell you about them.
Congrats super cute mga baby nyo
God bless happy family
fyi d hospital u deliver kim is for D high end families in d philippines but u can find some hospital who are neat n classy but d price are low u can research it
They chose St. Lukes ‘cause they came from the UK and from 2 experiences they had, they’re used to the high quality service and professionalism which they thought St. Luke is comparable with.
❤ Very interesting journey of your delivery... Welcome to the world baby Orien 👶🤗🤔👍😍
A great way to open their eyes that not all people will just pay right away!
Hello, just wondering if you looked into getting health insurance for the family?
My daughter was hospitalized in Makati Med 7 years ago. Paid around 61k pesos. Our insurance in US reimbursed us $500. My husband and I stayed in the hospital for 6 days (Slept in hospital bed with her and my husband in the chair). Which you can’t do in the US. The only downside about being hospitalized in Philippines is paying out of pocket.
In NY, In Pediatrics, parents can stay with the sick child in the hospital. They allowed at least 1 parent and if it’s a private room, both can stay ‘till the child is discharge. It’s a different policy for critical care areas but in standard units, yes they can esp. pediatrics
A podcast sounds great!!
well the whole world now knows it costs over 200k to give birth at st lukes that price is obscene for middle class filipinos
I am a HCP working in the healthcare sector in the UK. Sorry, insisting to have your husband in the room is an entitled behaviour. Protocol in PH is different from the UK. you can’t insist on the UK way, and have your husband in the room just because it was what you envisioned. It was partly the hospital’s fault for not explaining their protocol to you, a foreigner, but you should have also asked knowing you are not familiar with PH healthcare. Different healthcare systems different protocols. NHS patients can complain but services, hospitals rarely change their protocol and bend the rules just because somebody isn’t happy. Why expect a hospital in PH to change their protocol for you? It is also not fair to other Filipino fathers who would like to witness the same moments your husband did but because they aren’t white foreigners with British accent, they didn’t get the same leeway as you did.
Congratulations on the safe and almost pain-free delivery if Orien! ..ehem . The baby can't seem to sleep...voices too loud?
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I am sorry about those not so good experiences. You are really inspirational... looking at a glass half-full instead of half-empty
i love watching the baby. super duper cute
Get an HMO/ Life insurance. It will save u from paying a lot of cash when there’s an emergency or hospitalization.
These hospitals (St. Luke’s and Makati Med) are disgustingly expensive and have the reputation of ripping people off. And the doctors who work there have the same mentality, they take advantage of the people/patients. So sad how greedy these people are 😢
Nice name , Pearl of the Orient Seas wow❤❤❤
I guess the next baby will be in the UK. In the US, dads are totally part of labor and delivery.
I gave birth last 2010 in a public hospital and I paid for 100 pesos only it's like a donation 😂 no epidural and I just pushed hard. stayed for 1 day only .
Whereas, you could have it free here in the UK.
Thank you for your info! But jeezz 213k?
the cost is worth it… u and baby safe! If childbirth was in BGC🤑🤑🤑 clearly not unexpected especially if they serve such a fancy meal🥩🍽️
Saint Lukes Global is so expensive, but still worth
May i ask po do u breastfeed your kids then how long they take on breasfeed thank you po
The Medical City is a good hospital also. Better have your pedia for your three kiids...It's a city nearby
I wanna be in the meet and greet!!! Are there no online options?
Hi, what was the name of your OB GYN? we've just contacted St Lukes and were given a list of 60+ to choose from??? 😳
Heyy i just saw your full video , and i m also foreigner in manila and i m 13 weeks pregnant and we are yet to finalize the doctor, may i know your doctor’s name please ?? That will be really helpful and if can connect personally via call or chat that would be great 😊
How much was your total hospital bill for giving birth- if you dont mind me asking? We are Americans looking to move there soon and very hesitant in giving birth at st lukes. I am due in August. @thekitofamily
Good to know🙌
Yah podcast quite nice bcs bout of you have good wisdom
Always follow your maternal instinct..❤
Some hospitals are taking advantage especially if you have medical insurance. Same with the dentists 😊
4,000 dollars I think is so reasonable for giving birth in a prestigious hospital in the Philippines. In the States, you pay a co-payment of 3,000 dollars from your pocket + you pay 1000 dollars per month for insurance for a family. Not only that your OB GYNE doctor was always checking on you in the Philippines. In the States, there will be 2 to 3 pregnant women that the OB-GYNE is probably going to deliver so they show up only when the baby is crowning and so most of the time it is only one nurse who is there at your bedside checking on you every 15 minutes. In the States machines are connected to all over your body that you feel you are tied to a bed while in the Philippines it is the human eye that monitors you instead of machines the nurse monitors from the nurses's station while you suffer being tied to a bed. Anyways it just surprised me that there are so many nurses flocking around , usually in the west 2 nurses, the doctor and the anesthesiologist are the only ones in the surgical area or birthing area. Shows nurses are not paid well in the Philippines. The only thing I did not understand too was not letting your husband witness the birth of your child because you need a family support at your bedside when you are in so much pain, except extra family members who can cause interruptions on the birthing process.
There must someplace where hospitals and or doctors can be reported for over charging customers. I went to see a skin doctor and was charge an insane amount of money, and the doctor added another treatment without asking me. This should be illegal. Anybody know where I can report doctors who takes advantage of customers just because they are from a different country.
I hate to think and say, as I am also a filipino citizen, that the medical service in the Philippines is a complete rip off especially on high end hospitals. Thank you for voicing out and share your "bad" experience. This should be dealt with with professionalism.
Not only in the Philippines, even here in London.
Thanks for loving the food in SLMC BGC my cousin is the chef😊
please tell him, we thank him for his service. The food was amazing ☺️
a podcast will be great!👍
I love you guys ❤❤❤❤
Would love to see a podcast
St. Luke's hospital is the most expensive hospital in Metro Manila.😊
3,000£ pound? That’s a bargain! You know how much you have to pay in Western world if you don’t have insurance specially here in the US? It’s between 100-250,000 dollars! and that’s not even a good hospital!