UPDATE : i’m sorry I had to add some blurred screens over some of the primes, but I had a couple videos taken down by copyright and I didn’t want to take any chances. If you want to see clear pictures of every single prime - check out my community tab! I’ll be honest I really only knew a handful of primes before this from other shows and some comics, but it’s truly a testament to how great transformers one was because now I’m diving into the lore on all of them! That being said, I’m sure I’ve made some inaccuracies so I welcome all the lore masters to come in and add to the true history of these primes in the comments!
They changed the lore slightly as Optimus was one of the 13 primes in most continuity but chose to have his mind wiped to live as a normal bot. He is considered the 13th prime but they included zeta as a member of the original 13 in this film
@adamstone4780 Optimus Prime is only one of the 13 in Prime and possibly IDW's first G1 series. Before that, the Primes were like Unicron and Primus where they were all universal singularities, meaning they were the only versions of them in the multiverse. It wasn't until Nexus Prime caused the event, The Shrouding where all universal singularities are now just like any other being in the Transformers multiverse so they can make more realities like Transformers One, Transformers Earthspark ,anthe more recent series
Yeah, there are a few inaccuracies 6:20 to be specific As the dark star saber was never destroyed, that would actually be the actual star saber, which was later repaired and used to kill megatron
I feel like in this movie, Megatronus can’t be considered “The Fallen” He got that title in other continuities by being the first Decepticon or killing Solus prime. Here, he’s good with the other primes and fought with them till the end. Also in the end when Orion becomes Optimus, he’s allowed to stand with the other primes It makes Megatron’s rise to evil more believable as his idol was the strongest prime and ended up killed by sentinel
It'd be interesting if megatronus speak with megatron talking him down and berate him for tarnishing megatronus's legacy. Or if tarn shows up as a true believer of what megatronus stood for.
This also means One can't be canon to the Bay movies no matter what Lorenzo says. Megatronus can't simultaneously be standing alongside the other primes in robot heaven and living in exile with his name stricken from history for being a traitor.
Megatron becoming corrupted isnt the fault of megatronus tcog as he was already like that near the end of the film it just enhances his destructive capabilities. And in the movie it is never stated that megatronus was evil more so hes just really powerful
Plus the T-Cog that Megatron threw away, which was a gift from Alpha Trion. Imagine if the discarded T-Cog of a Prime goes to Dion who becomes Ultra Magnus.
I’m going to agree with you, Megatronus might have been the most aggressive of the Primes (not sure but something must have distinguished him that Megatron looked up to besides just his raw strength) but he was still loyal and died with them as a part of the team, it was Megaton’s anger, and that of the High Guard that made them become the Decepticons, this might makes right mentality that they developed is clearly a response to Sentinel’s underhanded and dishonorable tactics, but they’ve twisted their honor code in their heads and now they’ve forgotten what makes one worthy of being a leader, of being a Prime, so they now attack the rightful successor to the Leader they admire. It’s actually quite tragic and I think it has a lot of potential for the future of the story.
Within the context of TRANSFORMERS ONE, Megatronus basically represents power. Both Megatron and Sentinel admired him solely for his strength, showing their true natures. It's basically this movie's version of "I admired [X person] merely because [they were] power. Never did imagine how [they] might use that power" from the WAR DAWN episode in the original cartoon.
@@daanduijkers4845 I think you’re oversimplifying Megatron’s motivations, we see very clearly when D-16 is first introduced that He has a fully functional view of right and wrong, he clearly believes that Orion’s whole sneaking into the archives is wrong, that’s why he punches him, he maybe frustrated with his position but he believes in the system, he probably sees his strength as an asset for his rise and usefulness to that system, just like Megatronus was, when the system is shown to be corrupt all 4 of our heroes have to question everything that they believe in, Orion reverts to hope, he believes if he remove the individual who have abused their power then the original just system can be restored, D-16 on the other hand comes to believe that the only thing he can trust is his own strength, the system must be replaced with a new more perfect system and only the strongest can insure that it’s a just system, that’s the lie at the heart of the despticons
@@kinglycrimsonyeah... most Transformers get special abilities built into them, like Mirage's invisibility, Hound's holograms, and Ironhide's liquid nitrogen. It usually doesn't have anything to do with the t-cogs
@@ゼロシン no, he's not. Optimus is not the thirteenth/Arisen in this continuity. Just like how Zeta isn't usually a part of the original 13 Primes in most continuities.
In order, Micronus’s t-cog is mentioned second by Alpha Trion when he’s giving them the T-Cogs. He gives that one to Optimus, so Optimus gets Micronus’s. Edit: the director confirmed it was Prima’s cog.
Ooohhhhh now that's a cool theory. Just because he's Zeta's reincarnation doesn't mean he had to get Zeta's cog. Yeah that work Zeta's spark but Prima's cog cool idea
@@afanofstuff9123 He's not Zeta's reincarnation in this movie though, that's the entire point of why they called him Zeta, to make him seperate Bruh you literally see Zeta in the Core of Cybertron next to Optimus
It's ironic how D-16 becomes Megatron in the honor of his hero - Megatronus Prime... but Megatronus choose to bless Orion to become Optimus Prime. Even as a dead spirit, he supported more Orion that his fan. And i can't discribe how ashamed Megatronus Prime now is felling. His noble mask which resembled honor, justise, strengh of the will to do the right thing, will become a mark of terror and future long war.
Btw were alita bumblebee d 16 and orion paxs cogs of the previous primes? if so then are their transformations based on the previous primes?? If yes then why was sentinel still a jet even after taken megatronuses cog?
@@Nooberio24they’re not. As you saw in the movies, IF you saw it, megatron was a tank with both cogs. The tank didn’t even change. They’re alt modes are what their chassis were built to be by default. The t-cogs just grant access to the modes and in some cases(like Megatronus’s) more equipment. The T cog as shown in Prime, which its version is the type I much prefer, the cog is what allows the ability to shift pieces of a transformer’s body around in unorthodox ways like when transforming or deploying built in equipment, without it, they can’t use ANY of it, not even the smallest shift. Human articulation is fair game though
I think personally the readon why Megatronus’ tcog was “polluted”/“corrupted” was probably due to Sentinel’s heart and intentions polluting/fueling itnto gain his artillery form. And since Megatron ALSO had a negative emotion fueling him along with the tcog probably still having influence and remnants of sentinel, it drove Megatron down even more into what he is now
I like to think it's because megatronus was the strongest hence why his t-cog has a different color marking it to be more special than the rest. And it shows, sentinel was decked out with much weaponry from megatronus's t-cog, and megatron gain more weapons when he took it as well.
Megatronus' t-cog color is likely a reference to his title as the Guardian of Entropy. He oversees destruction to make way for new creation. Would also make sense for him to be one of the stronger Primes, since he could go toe-to-toe with his siblings in all incarnations. Though I would say his helmet/face mask makes him look a little too much like Tarn of the DJD. An interesting part of their aesthetic of being the first cybertronians is that they each seem to have some knightly look incorporated into their designs. Likewise, the choices of having Zeta be the thirteenth prime, the t-cogs, and others are likely to help establish that Transformers One is a new continuity and not tied to the Aligned Continuity, despite being originally penned as a prequel to the Bay-formers movies. The Thirteen were essentially demigods/minor gods with all these powers and tools at their disposal. The new movie seems to take the IDW route where they're more like stronger mortal transformers than divine beings.
I would be happy if Megatronus in this universe was actually good and kind but is very powerful and the strongest. That would be nice, "the strongest the coolest" it would be a nice change of pace that he is good in this universe and sentinel is the actual bad guys or this universe's version of the fallen.
Also worth noting : Orion, Elita, Bee and D16 initially get the Tcogs of Prima, Onyx, Alchemist, and Micronus, though it is unclear who get’s which one
Next year, leaks suggest we are getting Alpha Trion, Prima, Micronus, Alchemist, Solus, Onyx, and The Fallen. Meaning we have 7 of the 12 primes represented in modern toy form (8 if you use the legacy Cybertron Vector prime)
Dude, we're getting all 13 by 2026. These aren't even leaked lol, it's just news. However, none of them will be based on their One designs, since the movie just came out. For example, The Fallen will be based on his Dreamwave design, and Micronus will be based on his Aligned design.
thank you for making this video! I couldnt believe they really showed all of the primes the way they did with the flashback sequence... and i really hope we get to see more flashbacks or other stories with them, especially megatronus and vector prime! Imagine the potential...
I think the idea of him being the first Decepticon and the Decepticon insignia being based of his face is the inspiration. Tarn is the other way around with his face being based off the Decepticon insignia. At least that's the in universe wise of things. Some of us all know that the Decepticon logo was based off of G1 Soundwave's toy head back in 1984.
I think that his design is a blend of every iteration past this one: Being bulky and strong as Dreamwave, his face being the basis of the Decepticon insignia and the staff from ROTF, and his jet mode (implicated by his wings) from the ROTF toys and PoTP design (I didn't mention his Aligned designs cus I see little inspirations taken from that one). I think he is literally all Megatronus' past iterations fused into one being
Megatronus isn't evil in the Transformers One continuity. He's the best and coolest Prime according to D-16 and Orion Pax. When Orion Pax receives the Matrix of Leadership, you can see Megatronus standing together with the rest of the Primes. He fought bravely till the end.
I think Megatronus’ cog was simply powered by dark energon, not evil or capable of corrupting bots (at least intentionally) In this film, it’s a very important point that megatronus didn’t betray the other primes. Maybe when he was alive he was a bit of a musclehead or an asshole, but not straight up evil. And he died before he could plot anything against the others anyways. I think what’s actually going on is that megatronus’ tcog was powered by dark energon as a means to make him the most powerful. As dark energon is described as being more powerful than regular energon but it corrupts your mind if you can’t dominate it. Obviously megatronus was a prime so him using it was completely unproblematic. But D-16 using it in an already mentally unstable state completely pushed him over the edge.
I also have a personal headcanon that Megatronus prime was responsible for creating the high guard, because why would sentinel banish them? Because they might be potential threats due to them being trained by one of the greatest, this could be also another reason why the high guard/decepticons followed D-16 after he took Megatronus's cog and became megatron, i think it would add a nice layer of tragedy on how Megatronus's power, strength and legacy being twisted and corrupted
I’d say the guard weren’t formed and trained specifically by megatronus, it makes sense for any higher beings in their form to be guarded by such tough warriors, if anything they were trained by more than just megatronus, he isn’t the only one known for their battle prowess, Nexus for example, who at least in one depiction was seen as one of if the not the greatest warrior of the primes, maybe just behind megatronus and prima in power. I mean HES A COMBINER FOR GOODNESS SAKE, and has also been known to wield a good few legendary swords, heck the star saber is one of them, another the terminus blade. They’ve really been screwing nexus over in most iterations, like in idw he was the first to die by a normal transformers hands. I will say though nexus was my favorite design of the primes in this movie alongside amalgamus. Also wierd how they say megatronus was the biggest of them when Nexus was shown to be eye level or just taller than him. Sorry for the rant
He had that Tarn face and I love that streamlined lore reveal to explain the logo of the Decepticons, much like how some origins state the autobot logo to be the face of Primus.
I grew up on Transformers Cybertron, so I literally jumped up when K saw Vector Prime in the cinema. His toy from back in 2005 was alao my first ever Transformer!
Looks like Zeta was simply added in to make the total add up to 13 without the need to make the 13th be Optimus's mysterious predecessor and cause a lot of audience confusion. Unlike the other 12 who were all derived from their counterparts from the covenant of primus, Zeta was never part of the 13 primes, he was an original character introduced in war for cybertron. He has the Matrix because it's always been associated with the 13th, and just like in war for cybertron, after he is slain, Optimus becomes his spiritual successor by receiving the Matrix eventually.
5:15 The reason why the Matrix faded to dust in Sentinel's hands was because, just like what it did initially with Sam in Revenge of the Fallen, it deemed him unworthy of wielding it, what with Sentinel being a fraud and all.
Of all the transformers content we've ever received, this is the first project that has me absolutely obsessed with the 13 Primes. There's always been so much ambiguity to their lore, and I feel that we're just scratching the service in this movie! I never knew that Alpha Trion was also a Prime, I thought he was just a Cybertronian elder historian. I'd love to know more from this universe, and I would love a Transformers: Two!
I'm wondering why they gave the Matrix to Zeta instead of Prima. The Matrix was literally a part of the Star Saber. It's also interesting that in this version Megatronus doesn't seem to be a betrayer.
I mean he definitely leaned into the evil side at the end when he wanted to execute a wounded prisoner and then immediately shifted into dictatorship destroying the city and attacking citizens 😂
Man I’m so happy with this movie! And it’s so cool to see these different primes and remembering the lore I found back in the day. This was really cool to see too because I couldn’t remember all the names of the primes yet I recognized them when they showed up! Keep up the great work! :) Also what was the song you used in your outro? It sounded really cool
Alchemist and Liege Maximo are actually the wrong way around on that TF:One image list of the Primes you keep showing. It's just an incorrect labelling made by some random person on Reddit. The real designs for each Prime are: Zeta Prime: blue and gold with the Matrix, pretty clearly shown Alpha Trion: purple one with beard, obvious Prima: Knight one with curved shoulderpads, sometimes holding a sword Megatronus: Decepticon face, obvious Micronus Prime: the small one, grey and gold Minicon Vector Prime: circular chest with long shoulder pauldrons, exactly like Cybertron 2005 had him designed. Onyx Prime: blue with wings and horns Amalgamous Prime: Shockwave-ish head, has a Scythe Solus Prime: purple and yellow, has a hammer Quintus Prime: the one with lots of limbs Nexus Prime: visor face, dark blue with orange eyes. Sadly not a Combiner. Alchemist Prime: the green one with goggles. This is NOT Liege Maximo just because he's green. Liege Maximo: the grey blurred one with a large flowy cape, small horns. This is NOT Alchemist Prime just because he's grey. For those confused why Zeta is here, he's just a renamed 13th. His original fictional name was "Optimus" but it would have been confusing to feature two characters named "Optimus Prime" in one movie, so they renamed him Zeta Prime and gave him that design.
@@CrimsonAzure-fh6ybtbf he was never depicted as been severely that much taller than the others. Yes he was the biggest, but many of the primes were already bigger than most bots anyway. But really felt wrong that megatronus was the same height
I hate to be an erm actually, but the was the other way around. Megatron broke the star saber. But, Optimus later repairs it and uses it again throughout the final battle of season 2, and all of season 3. Sorry but that was my favorite series and I have it basically memorized
I would love a series just based around the Primes at sone point, like ep 1 is birth of the planet and the Primes and them figuring out literally everything, if they did it like the War for Cyberyron series Netflix did we'd be rockin
I was thinking along the same lines. I feel like at some point Megatronus may have been exposed to dark energon but was able to control its influence on him as he was the strongest prime, like you said. This is all my theory but I feel like this would be an interesting way to introduce Unicron and dark energon itself. It could be a future plot point with Megatron getting flashbacks or memories of Megatronus against Unicron, since he stole his tcog. This would give us more lore about the origin of Cybertron before the Quintessons in this continuity, or set us up for a future movie during the Autobot Decepticon war where Optimus has to stop Megatron from corrupting the core of Primus with dark energon. Simply put, maybe Megatronus was responsible for protecting Cybertron from Unicron, but with his T-cog in Megatron, maybe Unicron found his opening to strike once again. Perhaps Megatron at the height of his evil believed that Megatronus was foolish for not using the power of Unicron for himself, and this could be a turning point in his character, truly marking the end of D-16, a bot who once revered Megatronus. That would be an interesting plot point for me. Imagine a flashback showing us a Megatronus vs Scourge battle back in the early days of Cybertron?
In tfp with the star saber. It was prime using it to cut a mountain size bolder in half with one swing and using its energy wave to knock around the nemesis war ship with is what pushed him into building the dark saber to fight prime. Wich he used to break primes saber in peases. As prime reforged it.
So the previews of the primes in full details came out on Twitter and for onyx looks more aligned to airazor being hawk like then a centuar like transformer.
Imagine the moment where Sentinel blasts Solus Prime.. Megatronus Prime looses it compeltley to his rage. His love to Soulus pushing him on that it takes severeal Quintessons to hold him down. He roars and yells; "For Solus! For Cybertron!" Tearing apart lowly troops with aswipe of the spear, his fusion cannon blasting what he can reach. Missles shoot from his back, his rage blinding him to five quintessons pinning him from behind. As he is forced to kneel, his rage subsides, weeping for the loss of his brothers but especuially for Solus...Sentinel about to behead him, he looks to the floor, not willing to give Sentinel the satisfaction of looking into his optics.
Helmet of megatronus and d 16 is very similar, only difference being color and that megatronus helmet has a mask that propably inspired the decepticon insignia in transformers one timeline, i csn even imagine megatronus either watching in dissapointment or outright grieving that his mask, if not his face is used by faction that is destroying cybertron
In fact Zeta Prime in Transformers One, is representing Prima Prime, since Zeta is put here as the first bearer of the Matrix and in all the universes until G1 Prima Prime is the original bearer of the Matrix and the star saber, and the Prime number 13 is literally called Thirteen or the Thirteenth Prime and Thirteen is Orion Pax who in the future is Optimus Prime, and this is because Thirteen joined Primus and wanted to reincarnate as an ordinary Cybertronian to experience being an ordinary citizen and so that reincarnation is Orion, because they believe that in all continuities or universes Orion will always become a Prime to always be Optimus Prime.
HEY! I’m not trying to be that guy but you actually flipped alchemist and Liege Maximo, in the scene where the primes are fighting alchemist is shown the be green, gold, and with the hammer. He’s also shown again when his tcog is given to one of the 4!
It's just a theory, but maybe the purplish color of Megatronus Primes Cog is because it has been corrupted by being in Sentianal for so long. I say this because although we didn't see much of the Primes' personalities in this movie, Megatronus wasn't portrayed as having villainous tendencies.
Even though Megatronus Prime's role in the film was short, I thought it was very good since it showed the influence he had on Megatron and other bots being "the strongest and the coolest prime" especially he was done dirty in Revenge of the Fallen here he was seen as a legend and not a bad guy. Seeing the Primes overall was just hype.
Correction: Zeta Prime first appeared in the IDW 2005 continuity, and was a separate character from Sentinel. Zeta's name would be borrowed for Sentinel Zeta Prime in the War for Cybertron game
13 primes make sense that how cybertronians is developed and organized. Transformers One answers me a lot of questions when I saw original G 1 anime in 80’s . This movie is very Good!
Vector Prime is my most favorite Prime because of Transformers Cybertron/Galaxy Force. I think he would be the most powerful Prime if we don't count the raw combat power because he's the guardian of time and space and he has the power to travel through time and space. I wish there's a Transformers movie which shows him. If he's the Prime who survived in this movie instead of Alpha Trion, I'm sure he can assist Orion's group better due to his powers.
I think it would be cool if the Megatronus T-cog confirms he’s still the fallen just he stopped fighting his brothers to help them fight the quintessons
I'd like to think that this Megatronus was kind and light hearted, kinda like Tyr. A God of war simply to end wars and make way for peace. I'd like a good Megatronus pls as a new breath of fresh air, I wonder what his spirit thinks of Megatron now that he uses HIS T-COG in pursuits of true evil.
The way they designed megatronus primes head, his head looks like it’s half of cogless megatrons head and half the deception logo as a mask you can see it the back of his head look like megatrons head built with the deception symbol as a mask
While it would be cool Primal has never been a prime he is the descendent of Optimus and the maximals are descendants of the autobots so that’s WAY after this
@@JTMotion84 THEN AGAIN this is an alternate timeline they could switch up things a little and let Optimus primal be part of the primes that survived but I see your point
I think megatronis story might be different in this continuity if someone like D-16 would like him so much. Probably more misunderstood than let's kill a planet.
Dope video. I think you should do a video on tcogs in transformers one. Because Orion b127 elita 1 and d16 all got tcogs from former primes. I think that also gave them power upgrades
Wasn't Prima the leader of all the Primes? That was pretty well established in lore and I remember watching Transformers Power of the Primes where Mistress of Flame says "Prima the one who leads us all" or something like that. Also, Zeta was supposed to be the same person as Sentinel and Zeta was never a "King of the primes" which really confused me and still does. Also, we are used to seeing Megatronus as the evil type of character and not some protector of the primes. He is literally your go-to guy when you want a main villain outside of Megatron and the Decepticons etc. Optimus was well regarded as the 13th Prime I mean in every iteration he is said to be the "last of the primes." Just look at Transformers Prime which is arguably the best thing to come out of Transformers. Rachet said in his monologue when talking about Orion Pax and Megatronus' (Megatron's) past that Orion become Optimus after Megatron showing his true colours and that Optimus is the last of the Primes. There is so many inconsistiencies with this show and shows how the writers (who made Toy Story 4) don't really understand all the lore (even tho the continuity is messed up) BUT here is still basic facts which the fans are used to regardless if u wanna target younger audience or not. One of them being the points I made above and the other is that Transformer's Tcogs are not in the middle of the chest. That is where the spark is smh. We were shown in TFP that the Tcog (transformation cogs) was like in your sides (where our kidneys are or something.... on our sides). It may be a good movie but there are many inconsistencies still.... just saying.
Yup we need a prequel to this movie, for the primes alone, to explain the quentason war ( idk if I spelt that right ) idk what the war is or how it started to we need an explanation and movie for the primes
Usually Prima is the leader of the 13 original primes he welds the star saber and carries the matrix and was the first transformer created by primus I wonder why they changed it
Wait, but if Vector Prime gets killed in that ambush, how can he come back in the future as Unicron collapses into a black hole to help Optimus escape Cybertron to find the Cyber Planet Keys????
For me I do like Nexus prime since I do like combiners but I do wish they can write combiners as they can transformer into their own separate alt modes but together they can transform into some way different like how cool would it be to see 4 car transformers combining to become a larger robot but their new alt mode is something more interesting like they transform into a giant bull or something
I think Megatronus Prime in this universe was the most badass, the strong one and the toughest, because he could do what others could not: control the dark within him. Im also think Megatronus Prime was also the most honorable one too. I even think what his COG had the dark energon, instead of usual one. Why? Because Primus created him this way. To the the most honorable, because Megatronus Prime was the only one who could wield such twisted power and not become corrupted by it. He used his rage, hatred and violence to the good of all Cybertron. What's why he was the greatest. He could use the dark within him to fight for the light. Megatronus Prime was created to fight then others couldn't or didn't wanted to. And Megatronus Prime and other Primes kept him check about himself, so he always know what he have friends to back him up in any time. What he is not alone. What he have the strongest of wills to use dark path to fight for the light. He is the Dark Knight of this universe.
Here's all teh primes : zeta prime :Maximo prime :alpha trion :solus prime :prima prime :megatronus prime :quintus prime :onyx prime :vector prime :nexus prime :alchemist prime :amalgamous prime :micronus prime: that's all 13
I agree, I also feel that the fall of the Primes should have been a more epic battle. In that It would take more than a key betrayal and just mere numbers in a confined space to defeat and destroy them. Sentinel was not their equal in any way. they are Legendary and revered for a reason. And we barely saw any of that. But I can forgive that, as long as they find a way to rework that battle into a more epic stand alone short film version of its own.
UPDATE : i’m sorry I had to add some blurred screens over some of the primes, but I had a couple videos taken down by copyright and I didn’t want to take any chances. If you want to see clear pictures of every single prime - check out my community tab! I’ll be honest I really only knew a handful of primes before this from other shows and some comics, but it’s truly a testament to how great transformers one was because now I’m diving into the lore on all of them! That being said, I’m sure I’ve made some inaccuracies so I welcome all the lore masters to come in and add to the true history of these primes in the comments!
why zeta prime look like a gigachad?
Because he was
They changed the lore slightly as Optimus was one of the 13 primes in most continuity but chose to have his mind wiped to live as a normal bot. He is considered the 13th prime but they included zeta as a member of the original 13 in this film
@adamstone4780 Optimus Prime is only one of the 13 in Prime and possibly IDW's first G1 series. Before that, the Primes were like Unicron and Primus where they were all universal singularities, meaning they were the only versions of them in the multiverse. It wasn't until Nexus Prime caused the event, The Shrouding where all universal singularities are now just like any other being in the Transformers multiverse so they can make more realities like Transformers One, Transformers Earthspark ,anthe more recent series
Yeah, there are a few inaccuracies
6:20 to be specific
As the dark star saber was never destroyed, that would actually be the actual star saber, which was later repaired and used to kill megatron
I feel like in this movie, Megatronus can’t be considered “The Fallen”
He got that title in other continuities by being the first Decepticon or killing Solus prime. Here, he’s good with the other primes and fought with them till the end.
Also in the end when Orion becomes Optimus, he’s allowed to stand with the other primes
It makes Megatron’s rise to evil more believable as his idol was the strongest prime and ended up killed by sentinel
Honestly I like that! We have a megatronus that isn't evil! Also I want ss of all of them!
It'd be interesting if megatronus speak with megatron talking him down and berate him for tarnishing megatronus's legacy. Or if tarn shows up as a true believer of what megatronus stood for.
This also means One can't be canon to the Bay movies no matter what Lorenzo says. Megatronus can't simultaneously be standing alongside the other primes in robot heaven and living in exile with his name stricken from history for being a traitor.
@@soopakoopa6461 it was an idea if im not mistaken but they clearly gave up on that and start from scratch with this movie.
@@soopakoopa6461 let’s also not forget in DOTM, Optimus kill Sentinel executioner style
Megatron becoming corrupted isnt the fault of megatronus tcog as he was already like that near the end of the film it just enhances his destructive capabilities. And in the movie it is never stated that megatronus was evil more so hes just really powerful
Plus the T-Cog that Megatron threw away, which was a gift from Alpha Trion.
Imagine if the discarded T-Cog of a Prime goes to Dion who becomes Ultra Magnus.
I’m going to agree with you, Megatronus might have been the most aggressive of the Primes (not sure but something must have distinguished him that Megatron looked up to besides just his raw strength) but he was still loyal and died with them as a part of the team, it was Megaton’s anger, and that of the High Guard that made them become the Decepticons, this might makes right mentality that they developed is clearly a response to Sentinel’s underhanded and dishonorable tactics, but they’ve twisted their honor code in their heads and now they’ve forgotten what makes one worthy of being a leader, of being a Prime, so they now attack the rightful successor to the Leader they admire. It’s actually quite tragic and I think it has a lot of potential for the future of the story.
Within the context of TRANSFORMERS ONE, Megatronus basically represents power.
Both Megatron and Sentinel admired him solely for his strength, showing their true natures.
It's basically this movie's version of "I admired [X person] merely because [they were] power. Never did imagine how [they] might use that power" from the WAR DAWN episode in the original cartoon.
@@daanduijkers4845 I think you’re oversimplifying Megatron’s motivations, we see very clearly when D-16 is first introduced that He has a fully functional view of right and wrong, he clearly believes that Orion’s whole sneaking into the archives is wrong, that’s why he punches him, he maybe frustrated with his position but he believes in the system, he probably sees his strength as an asset for his rise and usefulness to that system, just like Megatronus was, when the system is shown to be corrupt all 4 of our heroes have to question everything that they believe in, Orion reverts to hope, he believes if he remove the individual who have abused their power then the original just system can be restored, D-16 on the other hand comes to believe that the only thing he can trust is his own strength, the system must be replaced with a new more perfect system and only the strongest can insure that it’s a just system, that’s the lie at the heart of the despticons
10:42 I like that every Cybertronian has a Tcog specifically for them but the ones the primes get come with special abilities
Well they were created to defend Primus and their younger brothers and sisters it makes sense that they would become the most powerful of their kind.
@@kennethsatria6607 they are lol but it's weird they're tying it to t cogs
@@kinglycrimson yeah, would’ve made more sense with their sparks since that’s how P.O.Ps exist and outliers as well i guess
@@kinglycrimsonyeah... most Transformers get special abilities built into them, like Mirage's invisibility, Hound's holograms, and Ironhide's liquid nitrogen. It usually doesn't have anything to do with the t-cogs
@@FlamesofJagger no duh that's literally what I said
100% sure Optimus received Prima T-cog. There are similarities in term of design between them.
Optimus is the reincarnation of zeta? Zeta is the arisen/covenant 13th in this version so Optimus is his reincarnation?
@@ゼロシン no, he's not. Optimus is not the thirteenth/Arisen in this continuity. Just like how Zeta isn't usually a part of the original 13 Primes in most continuities.
In order, Micronus’s t-cog is mentioned second by Alpha Trion when he’s giving them the T-Cogs. He gives that one to Optimus, so Optimus gets Micronus’s.
Edit: the director confirmed it was Prima’s cog.
Ooohhhhh now that's a cool theory.
Just because he's Zeta's reincarnation doesn't mean he had to get Zeta's cog.
Yeah that work Zeta's spark but Prima's cog cool idea
@@afanofstuff9123 He's not Zeta's reincarnation in this movie though, that's the entire point of why they called him Zeta, to make him seperate
Bruh you literally see Zeta in the Core of Cybertron next to Optimus
It's ironic how D-16 becomes Megatron in the honor of his hero - Megatronus Prime... but Megatronus choose to bless Orion to become Optimus Prime. Even as a dead spirit, he supported more Orion that his fan. And i can't discribe how ashamed Megatronus Prime now is felling. His noble mask which resembled honor, justise, strengh of the will to do the right thing, will become a mark of terror and future long war.
Btw were alita bumblebee d 16 and orion paxs cogs of the previous primes? if so then are their transformations based on the previous primes??
If yes then why was sentinel still a jet even after taken megatronuses cog?
@@Nooberio24they’re not. As you saw in the movies, IF you saw it, megatron was a tank with both cogs. The tank didn’t even change. They’re alt modes are what their chassis were built to be by default. The t-cogs just grant access to the modes and in some cases(like Megatronus’s) more equipment. The T cog as shown in Prime, which its version is the type I much prefer, the cog is what allows the ability to shift pieces of a transformer’s body around in unorthodox ways like when transforming or deploying built in equipment, without it, they can’t use ANY of it, not even the smallest shift. Human articulation is fair game though
@@ethanthomas8087 ah okay thanks for the clarification. Havent watched the mocie yet
I think personally the readon why Megatronus’ tcog was “polluted”/“corrupted” was probably due to Sentinel’s heart and intentions polluting/fueling itnto gain his artillery form. And since Megatron ALSO had a negative emotion fueling him along with the tcog probably still having influence and remnants of sentinel, it drove Megatron down even more into what he is now
Or sentinel was dosing dark energon for his supermode
I like to think it's because megatronus was the strongest hence why his t-cog has a different color marking it to be more special than the rest. And it shows, sentinel was decked out with much weaponry from megatronus's t-cog, and megatron gain more weapons when he took it as well.
@@larrytherustyboii7442Also, megatronus's cog and THE MATRIX were the only things that granted its user a second upgrade.
Megatronus' t-cog color is likely a reference to his title as the Guardian of Entropy. He oversees destruction to make way for new creation. Would also make sense for him to be one of the stronger Primes, since he could go toe-to-toe with his siblings in all incarnations. Though I would say his helmet/face mask makes him look a little too much like Tarn of the DJD.
An interesting part of their aesthetic of being the first cybertronians is that they each seem to have some knightly look incorporated into their designs. Likewise, the choices of having Zeta be the thirteenth prime, the t-cogs, and others are likely to help establish that Transformers One is a new continuity and not tied to the Aligned Continuity, despite being originally penned as a prequel to the Bay-formers movies.
The Thirteen were essentially demigods/minor gods with all these powers and tools at their disposal. The new movie seems to take the IDW route where they're more like stronger mortal transformers than divine beings.
I like how Zeta is the 13th Prime in the movie, instead of doing the "13th reborn into Orion" thing from Prime, cuz it's pretty much overused
Same
And it's definitely better than zeta prime just being a part of sentinels full name (which is sentinel zeta prime) like in the aligned continuity
I would be happy if Megatronus in this universe was actually good and kind but is very powerful and the strongest.
That would be nice, "the strongest the coolest" it would be a nice change of pace that he is good in this universe and sentinel is the actual bad guys or this universe's version of the fallen.
He is
I love megatronus design and I'm not a big fan of the gold color
@@echoprimus6490 people seem to make it like he is tho simply because Megatronus is the fallen in the bayverse
@@thadz2493he's the fallen everywhere except this movie. Dreamwave comics made the concept of the fallen
I think Orion and D-16 said he's the greatest prime that has ever lived
Also worth noting : Orion, Elita, Bee and D16 initially get the Tcogs of Prima, Onyx, Alchemist, and Micronus, though it is unclear who get’s which one
watch again they have slight difference in color before they got injected,
I think Optimus got Prima and B Micronus
Well at the end megaton ended up having megatronus’s cog
fairly certain that orion got prima's cog
bee most likely got micronus's cog
leaving D16 and elita to get alchemist's and onyx's cogs
@@kade-qt1zu I thought Micronus went to D-16.
BWF
Next year, leaks suggest we are getting Alpha Trion, Prima, Micronus, Alchemist, Solus, Onyx, and The Fallen. Meaning we have 7 of the 12 primes represented in modern toy form (8 if you use the legacy Cybertron Vector prime)
I really hope they release toys of the primes🫶
I would kill for a nexus prime figure that can combine and I know we are getting combiners again next year
Dude, we're getting all 13 by 2026. These aren't even leaked lol, it's just news.
However, none of them will be based on their One designs, since the movie just came out. For example, The Fallen will be based on his Dreamwave design, and Micronus will be based on his Aligned design.
Hope it’s true 🙏🏼
When i saw amalgamous prime, i knew he caught my interest because of how he looked
Oh yea amalgamous definitely has one of the most unique designs
thank you for making this video! I couldnt believe they really showed all of the primes the way they did with the flashback sequence... and i really hope we get to see more flashbacks or other stories with them, especially megatronus and vector prime! Imagine the potential...
Much appreciated! And I hope so too! The possibilities are endless in this new universe with this beautiful animation
@@theonlysajhope you didn't get sue
FYI in transformers prime it was megatrons dark star saber that shattered Optimus prime’s Star Saber
The Dark Star saber is not a relic of the primes lemme remind you though.
Dark star saber is only in tfp or multiverse stuff, it's not a relic like star saber
Megatronus 's design in this movie is definitely inspired from Tarn from the IDW comics
I think the idea of him being the first Decepticon and the Decepticon insignia being based of his face is the inspiration. Tarn is the other way around with his face being based off the Decepticon insignia. At least that's the in universe wise of things. Some of us all know that the Decepticon logo was based off of G1 Soundwave's toy head back in 1984.
@@AfterthymeGaming yes,but if we look at this purely design wise than there are definitely more similarities than just the face
I think that his design is a blend of every iteration past this one: Being bulky and strong as Dreamwave, his face being the basis of the Decepticon insignia and the staff from ROTF, and his jet mode (implicated by his wings) from the ROTF toys and PoTP design (I didn't mention his Aligned designs cus I see little inspirations taken from that one). I think he is literally all Megatronus' past iterations fused into one being
@@Deceptinerd1995 that's pretty cool and also how did the potp design look like it had a jet mode
The design also reminds me of the nemesis toy character
Seeing Vector Prime in the movie got me so hype.
So glad he actually looked like the Cybertron design, unlike the Legacy figure which was just weird
@@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb I know right? That's my favorite design.
And using *that* iconic Cybertron design.
Ngl for a good hour i was thinking vector was named Zeta and was thrown way off for a while.
Megatronus isn't evil in the Transformers One continuity. He's the best and coolest Prime according to D-16 and Orion Pax. When Orion Pax receives the Matrix of Leadership, you can see Megatronus standing together with the rest of the Primes. He fought bravely till the end.
I think Megatronus’ cog was simply powered by dark energon, not evil or capable of corrupting bots (at least intentionally)
In this film, it’s a very important point that megatronus didn’t betray the other primes. Maybe when he was alive he was a bit of a musclehead or an asshole, but not straight up evil. And he died before he could plot anything against the others anyways.
I think what’s actually going on is that megatronus’ tcog was powered by dark energon as a means to make him the most powerful. As dark energon is described as being more powerful than regular energon but it corrupts your mind if you can’t dominate it. Obviously megatronus was a prime so him using it was completely unproblematic. But D-16 using it in an already mentally unstable state completely pushed him over the edge.
I also have a personal headcanon that Megatronus prime was responsible for creating the high guard, because why would sentinel banish them? Because they might be potential threats due to them being trained by one of the greatest, this could be also another reason why the high guard/decepticons followed D-16 after he took Megatronus's cog and became megatron, i think it would add a nice layer of tragedy on how Megatronus's power, strength and legacy being twisted and corrupted
I’d say the guard weren’t formed and trained specifically by megatronus, it makes sense for any higher beings in their form to be guarded by such tough warriors, if anything they were trained by more than just megatronus, he isn’t the only one known for their battle prowess, Nexus for example, who at least in one depiction was seen as one of if the not the greatest warrior of the primes, maybe just behind megatronus and prima in power. I mean HES A COMBINER FOR GOODNESS SAKE, and has also been known to wield a good few legendary swords, heck the star saber is one of them, another the terminus blade. They’ve really been screwing nexus over in most iterations, like in idw he was the first to die by a normal transformers hands. I will say though nexus was my favorite design of the primes in this movie alongside amalgamus. Also wierd how they say megatronus was the biggest of them when Nexus was shown to be eye level or just taller than him. Sorry for the rant
I like how in this they didn’t make Megatronus and liege Maximo and nova prime evil,crazy,or traitors.
Where was Nova Prime, I didn’t see him.
@@Dragon66898he wasn’t in it, I guess he just felt the need to say his name here
When I first saw the 13 Primes in Movie, I literally yelled; "THEY'RE OFFICIALLY CANON!!!!!!!!!"
That was amazing. Now all we need is Unicron.
They've been canon since g1 what 😭🙏🏾
@@kinglycrimson G1 DOESN'T COUNT
I'm still questioning where the other 6 came from.
@@AfterthymeGaming comics
@@Shadow-cp9pj smartest bayverse only
My favorite prime gotta be Megatronus cuz he looks buff
Also got shocked by his appearance when i watched TFOne in theaters 4 days ago
Can’t go wrong there
He had that Tarn face and I love that streamlined lore reveal to explain the logo of the Decepticons, much like how some origins state the autobot logo to be the face of Primus.
Megatronous Prime should be made as a commander class figure for next year!
@Gigazilla-pm2on neeeed that asap
I also love megatronus but i miss him being evil
I grew up on Transformers Cybertron, so I literally jumped up when K saw Vector Prime in the cinema. His toy from back in 2005 was alao my first ever Transformer!
Looks like Zeta was simply added in to make the total add up to 13 without the need to make the 13th be Optimus's mysterious predecessor and cause a lot of audience confusion.
Unlike the other 12 who were all derived from their counterparts from the covenant of primus, Zeta was never part of the 13 primes, he was an original character introduced in war for cybertron. He has the Matrix because it's always been associated with the 13th, and just like in war for cybertron, after he is slain, Optimus becomes his spiritual successor by receiving the Matrix eventually.
5:15 The reason why the Matrix faded to dust in Sentinel's hands was because, just like what it did initially with Sam in Revenge of the Fallen, it deemed him unworthy of wielding it, what with Sentinel being a fraud and all.
Of all the transformers content we've ever received, this is the first project that has me absolutely obsessed with the 13 Primes. There's always been so much ambiguity to their lore, and I feel that we're just scratching the service in this movie!
I never knew that Alpha Trion was also a Prime, I thought he was just a Cybertronian elder historian. I'd love to know more from this universe, and I would love a Transformers: Two!
another interesting progress to tf lore is....what if Unicron also created his own 13? or Heralds as a counter to the Primes
I'm wondering why they gave the Matrix to Zeta instead of Prima. The Matrix was literally a part of the Star Saber. It's also interesting that in this version Megatronus doesn't seem to be a betrayer.
I like how they got Micronus' t cog to Bee, a cool little nod to Armada Sparkplug
In terms of stories, one of (if not) the most legendary feat/accomplishment of the 13 Primes was their defeat and vanquishing of Unicron.
I love how In this continuity Megatronus isn’t Evil.
I mean he definitely leaned into the evil side at the end when he wanted to execute a wounded prisoner and then immediately shifted into dictatorship destroying the city and attacking citizens 😂
Micronus surprised me the most, I was like. “What micronus? That annoying little thing from RID 2015…
Man I’m so happy with this movie! And it’s so cool to see these different primes and remembering the lore I found back in the day. This was really cool to see too because I couldn’t remember all the names of the primes yet I recognized them when they showed up!
Keep up the great work! :)
Also what was the song you used in your outro? It sounded really cool
Much appreciated thank you! The outro song is called Good Friday by Kanye west
remember, the star saber was in transformers armada before it was in tf prime.
It was the combination of the Air Defense Mini-Con Team: Sonar, Runway, and Jetstorm.
Zeta prime never lost his mewing streak even after he got ambushed and killed by sentinel ☠️💀💀🙏
I've waited my entire life for them to just give megatronus a head design that was just the decepticon logo and it's as glorious as I knew it would be
6:29 it’s actually the opposite, the dark star saber shattered the original until Optimus reforged it with the forge of solus prime
Correct 👍🏼
I hope we somehow hear more backstoey about the Primes in Transformers 1 world, maybe a sequel?
Alchemist and Liege Maximo are actually the wrong way around on that TF:One image list of the Primes you keep showing. It's just an incorrect labelling made by some random person on Reddit.
The real designs for each Prime are:
Zeta Prime: blue and gold with the Matrix, pretty clearly shown
Alpha Trion: purple one with beard, obvious
Prima: Knight one with curved shoulderpads, sometimes holding a sword
Megatronus: Decepticon face, obvious
Micronus Prime: the small one, grey and gold Minicon
Vector Prime: circular chest with long shoulder pauldrons, exactly like Cybertron 2005 had him designed.
Onyx Prime: blue with wings and horns
Amalgamous Prime: Shockwave-ish head, has a Scythe
Solus Prime: purple and yellow, has a hammer
Quintus Prime: the one with lots of limbs
Nexus Prime: visor face, dark blue with orange eyes. Sadly not a Combiner.
Alchemist Prime: the green one with goggles. This is NOT Liege Maximo just because he's green.
Liege Maximo: the grey blurred one with a large flowy cape, small horns. This is NOT Alchemist Prime just because he's grey.
For those confused why Zeta is here, he's just a renamed 13th. His original fictional name was "Optimus" but it would have been confusing to feature two characters named "Optimus Prime" in one movie, so they renamed him Zeta Prime and gave him that design.
I really like Nexus’ design in TF ONE but I think it’s more because I like visors on transformers
The visors were all so clean in this movie
Would've been nice if he were bigger to be a combiner though
@@CrimsonAzure-fh6ybtbf he was never depicted as been severely that much taller than the others. Yes he was the biggest, but many of the primes were already bigger than most bots anyway. But really felt wrong that megatronus was the same height
I hate to be an erm actually, but the was the other way around. Megatron broke the star saber. But, Optimus later repairs it and uses it again throughout the final battle of season 2, and all of season 3. Sorry but that was my favorite series and I have it basically memorized
I would love a series just based around the Primes at sone point, like ep 1 is birth of the planet and the Primes and them figuring out literally everything, if they did it like the War for Cyberyron series Netflix did we'd be rockin
I'd like to note how in cyberverse, alchemist prime was still alive for a while, taking up the name and role of maccadam the bar owner.
My theory of Megatronus from Transformer One is that in that universe he may have found a way to control dark energon which is why his core is purple.
I was thinking along the same lines. I feel like at some point Megatronus may have been exposed to dark energon but was able to control its influence on him as he was the strongest prime, like you said. This is all my theory but I feel like this would be an interesting way to introduce Unicron and dark energon itself. It could be a future plot point with Megatron getting flashbacks or memories of Megatronus against Unicron, since he stole his tcog. This would give us more lore about the origin of Cybertron before the Quintessons in this continuity, or set us up for a future movie during the Autobot Decepticon war where Optimus has to stop Megatron from corrupting the core of Primus with dark energon. Simply put, maybe Megatronus was responsible for protecting Cybertron from Unicron, but with his T-cog in Megatron, maybe Unicron found his opening to strike once again. Perhaps Megatron at the height of his evil believed that Megatronus was foolish for not using the power of Unicron for himself, and this could be a turning point in his character, truly marking the end of D-16, a bot who once revered Megatronus. That would be an interesting plot point for me. Imagine a flashback showing us a Megatronus vs Scourge battle back in the early days of Cybertron?
Dark energon blood of unicron
In tfp with the star saber. It was prime using it to cut a mountain size bolder in half with one swing and using its energy wave to knock around the nemesis war ship with is what pushed him into building the dark saber to fight prime. Wich he used to break primes saber in peases. As prime reforged it.
So the previews of the primes in full details came out on Twitter and for onyx looks more aligned to airazor being hawk like then a centuar like transformer.
Imagine the moment where Sentinel blasts Solus Prime.. Megatronus Prime looses it compeltley to his rage. His love to Soulus pushing him on that it takes severeal Quintessons to hold him down. He roars and yells; "For Solus! For Cybertron!" Tearing apart lowly troops with aswipe of the spear, his fusion cannon blasting what he can reach. Missles shoot from his back, his rage blinding him to five quintessons pinning him from behind. As he is forced to kneel, his rage subsides, weeping for the loss of his brothers but especuially for Solus...Sentinel about to behead him, he looks to the floor, not willing to give Sentinel the satisfaction of looking into his optics.
I think a sequel exploring adding more primes would make a good setup and interest for a sequel series.
Helmet of megatronus and d 16 is very similar, only difference being color and that megatronus helmet has a mask that propably inspired the decepticon insignia in transformers one timeline, i csn even imagine megatronus either watching in dissapointment or outright grieving that his mask, if not his face is used by faction that is destroying cybertron
If Vector prime can see through time and space, then why didn't he foresee sentinel's betrayal?
In fact Zeta Prime in Transformers One, is representing Prima Prime, since Zeta is put here as the first bearer of the Matrix and in all the universes until G1 Prima Prime is the original bearer of the Matrix and the star saber, and the Prime number 13 is literally called Thirteen or the Thirteenth Prime and Thirteen is Orion Pax who in the future is Optimus Prime, and this is because Thirteen joined Primus and wanted to reincarnate as an ordinary Cybertronian to experience being an ordinary citizen and so that reincarnation is Orion, because they believe that in all continuities or universes Orion will always become a Prime to always be Optimus Prime.
HEY! I’m not trying to be that guy but you actually flipped alchemist and Liege Maximo, in the scene where the primes are fighting alchemist is shown the be green, gold, and with the hammer. He’s also shown again when his tcog is given to one of the 4!
Yup you’re correct! The creator of the image commented not long after posting
We definitely need the official toys of the 13 primes and their official bio on who these primes are and what they did for their home planet…
We are getting toys of alpha trion,prima,solus,micronus,onyx,alchemist and the fallen next year
It's just a theory, but maybe the purplish color of Megatronus Primes Cog is because it has been corrupted by being in Sentianal for so long. I say this because although we didn't see much of the Primes' personalities in this movie, Megatronus wasn't portrayed as having villainous tendencies.
Logos Prime, Autonomous Maximus, Epistemus and Solomus have been part of some versions of the Thirteen Primes.
Even though Megatronus Prime's role in the film was short, I thought it was very good since it showed the influence he had on Megatron and other bots being "the strongest and the coolest prime" especially he was done dirty in Revenge of the Fallen here he was seen as a legend and not a bad guy. Seeing the Primes overall was just hype.
I've been waiting for something like this!
Correction: Zeta Prime first appeared in the IDW 2005 continuity, and was a separate character from Sentinel. Zeta's name would be borrowed for Sentinel Zeta Prime in the War for Cybertron game
13 primes make sense that how cybertronians is developed and organized. Transformers One answers me a lot of questions when I saw original G 1 anime in 80’s . This movie is very Good!
Vector Prime is my most favorite Prime because of Transformers Cybertron/Galaxy Force. I think he would be the most powerful Prime if we don't count the raw combat power because he's the guardian of time and space and he has the power to travel through time and space. I wish there's a Transformers movie which shows him. If he's the Prime who survived in this movie instead of Alpha Trion, I'm sure he can assist Orion's group better due to his powers.
I think it would be cool if the Megatronus T-cog confirms he’s still the fallen just he stopped fighting his brothers to help them fight the quintessons
Would be a cool way to take that
I'd like to think that this Megatronus was kind and light hearted, kinda like Tyr. A God of war simply to end wars and make way for peace.
I'd like a good Megatronus pls as a new breath of fresh air, I wonder what his spirit thinks of Megatron now that he uses HIS T-COG in pursuits of true evil.
I think it would be better if they gave Megatronus the Magneto treatment to Zeta as Prof. X.
Good stuff 😂👍
Would like to hear the other lore on the primes like nova prime that aren’t mentioned but they exist.
Zeta had the matrix but not Prima? Wow
9:22 megatronus helmet is similar to d 16 helmet
the "star saber" was also in Armada i think, and the Minicons were a part of it i think.
Love the idea of the 13 primes! I’d be very interested in a movie about them
Just so you know, the Dark Star Saber survives, Starscream gets it in Robots in Disguise
Onyx is always the most recognizable 😂
yeah his wings are kinda made it way too obvious
The way they designed megatronus primes head, his head looks like it’s half of cogless megatrons head and half the deception logo as a mask you can see it the back of his head look like megatrons head built with the deception symbol as a mask
I'm pretty sure you can use some of the lore of the 4 primes to tell who got what cogs. You might have to stretch it a bit, but the logic is there.
Huh? I wonder if Optimus primal was part of those 13 primes before he became the leader of the maximals
While it would be cool Primal has never been a prime he is the descendent of Optimus and the maximals are descendants of the autobots so that’s WAY after this
@@JTMotion84 THEN AGAIN this is an alternate timeline they could switch up things a little and let Optimus primal be part of the primes that survived but I see your point
@@AdamSwyvern101 true I wouldn’t mind seeing an Optimus primal in this continuity
My favorite prime is Souless Prime, but I also agreed cause we only see them during the ambush, not before the ambush.
Optimus’ Axes when thrown are like tomahawks
Surprised they made Megatronus a hero instead of how we usually see him depicted, as Megatronus, the Fallen Prime and the first Decepticon
Optimus 100% got the energy beam ability from the Master Sword in Zelda. And I am all for it
war for cybertron's zeta is just a sentinel variant that got misnamed for some reason imo
D-16 got Onyx, bee got Micronus, elita got Alchemist, and pax got Prima
I think megatronis story might be different in this continuity if someone like D-16 would like him so much. Probably more misunderstood than let's kill a planet.
Dope video.
I think you should do a video on tcogs in transformers one.
Because Orion b127 elita 1 and d16 all got tcogs from former primes.
I think that also gave them power upgrades
Definitely have to look into them more especially with elita and bee. Need that hd footage asap
@@theonlysaj If i remember correctly , Alpha Trion said gave them Prima's, Micronus', Solus', and Onyx's T-cogs, but you'd have to fact check that
@@blakepainter19.0 you’re correct 3/4 just swap solus with alchemist
😂😂 we all watched the CAM
12:23 - 13:07
In Transformers Cyberverse
Maccadam is Alchemist Prime
Kinda upset that most of the video is blurred
Thank god for everything
Wasn't Prima the leader of all the Primes? That was pretty well established in lore and I remember watching Transformers Power of the Primes where Mistress of Flame says "Prima the one who leads us all" or something like that.
Also, Zeta was supposed to be the same person as Sentinel and Zeta was never a "King of the primes" which really confused me and still does. Also, we are used to seeing Megatronus as the evil type of character and not some protector of the primes. He is literally your go-to guy when you want a main villain outside of Megatron and the Decepticons etc.
Optimus was well regarded as the 13th Prime I mean in every iteration he is said to be the "last of the primes." Just look at Transformers Prime which is arguably the best thing to come out of Transformers. Rachet said in his monologue when talking about Orion Pax and Megatronus' (Megatron's) past that Orion become Optimus after Megatron showing his true colours and that Optimus is the last of the Primes.
There is so many inconsistiencies with this show and shows how the writers (who made Toy Story 4) don't really understand all the lore (even tho the continuity is messed up) BUT here is still basic facts which the fans are used to regardless if u wanna target younger audience or not. One of them being the points I made above and the other is that Transformer's Tcogs are not in the middle of the chest. That is where the spark is smh. We were shown in TFP that the Tcog (transformation cogs) was like in your sides (where our kidneys are or something.... on our sides).
It may be a good movie but there are many inconsistencies still.... just saying.
Hey dude what version of the autobots theme are you using
I hope someday we see Vector prime
One thing i would like to say is the dark star saber broke the star saber but was reforged by prime to be its perfect equal
Yup we need a prequel to this movie, for the primes alone, to explain the quentason war ( idk if I spelt that right ) idk what the war is or how it started to we need an explanation and movie for the primes
Zeta prime in transformers one looks like the Prime of the Chadness
Why censoring a robot machines picture tf (CR)
Megatronus was literally done more justice in ONE than RID 😂
Usually Prima is the leader of the 13 original primes he welds the star saber and carries the matrix and was the first transformer created by primus I wonder why they changed it
Wait, but if Vector Prime gets killed in that ambush, how can he come back in the future as Unicron collapses into a black hole to help Optimus escape Cybertron to find the Cyber Planet Keys????
For me I do like Nexus prime since I do like combiners but I do wish they can write combiners as they can transformer into their own separate alt modes but together they can transform into some way different like how cool would it be to see 4 car transformers combining to become a larger robot but their new alt mode is something more interesting like they transform into a giant bull or something
I think Megatronus Prime in this universe was the most badass, the strong one and the toughest, because he could do what others could not: control the dark within him.
Im also think Megatronus Prime was also the most honorable one too. I even think what his COG had the dark energon, instead of usual one. Why? Because Primus created him this way. To the the most honorable, because Megatronus Prime was the only one who could wield such twisted power and not become corrupted by it. He used his rage, hatred and violence to the good of all Cybertron. What's why he was the greatest. He could use the dark within him to fight for the light. Megatronus Prime was created to fight then others couldn't or didn't wanted to.
And Megatronus Prime and other Primes kept him check about himself, so he always know what he have friends to back him up in any time. What he is not alone. What he have the strongest of wills to use dark path to fight for the light. He is the Dark Knight of this universe.
I'm interest with nexus or prima, both looks cool probably..
I feel like we again turned towards aligned continuity
And i like that turn
Here's all teh primes : zeta prime :Maximo prime :alpha trion :solus prime :prima prime :megatronus prime :quintus prime :onyx prime :vector prime :nexus prime :alchemist prime :amalgamous prime :micronus prime: that's all 13
I agree, I also feel that the fall of the Primes should have been a more epic battle. In that It would take more than a key betrayal and just mere numbers in a confined space to defeat and destroy them. Sentinel was not their equal in any way. they are Legendary and revered for a reason. And we barely saw any of that. But I can forgive that, as long as they find a way to rework that battle into a more epic stand alone short film version of its own.
Movie was great just hope it succeeds with money so we can get more.