Alright guys we are going to put some good tires on this unit…..we’ve gotta make something else junkier to make up for it. You just summed up the RV industry.
@@stevetami1on my enclosed I use 303 on the tires and cover them from uv, my trailer is up at 8500’ so cracking is the issue is have. 303 helps a lot on them.
Yes to coil suspension and pin boxes and most definitely yes to those steps. I hate lifting my steps with rain/snow into my trailer. More videos like this series. 👍
I love those steps because they look sturdy don't have to stow in the door frame! The biggest problem with current steps folding up into the door is ability to use them while in storage and next to walls or tight places. I wonder if these steps will have a similar problem if having to extend them out a ways before dropping into place? Also can't wait for the new Lippert spring Goose box final version video and product to come to market. Thanks for showing us these really innovative products.
Now if only they would offer a “premium” frame package where they would reinforce known stress areas, go over every weld, clean it, seal it and weld all edges of any brace / gusset / beam. I’d rather pay extra for a commercial grade welding job than premium body paint on the coach. Especially the upper deck fifth wheel area, make it a tank. Not everyone would pay for that but I would.
My suggestion to manufacturers would be instead of offering a frame upgrade, I’d love it if that upgrade was stock. The foundation or the chassis should never be the component used to save money. If you want to save money, do it in the fit and finish and let customers upgrade that as wanted. Just my opinion, and I really enjoy the videos. Lots of good information.
Yes, yes, yes to the stairs! $799 price range, perhaps. Our current stairwell is in front of the front tire and there is only frame rail underneath...so make it install with a "lift" after extending to be high enough to step into the coach (just like the one Tim demonstrated). NO, NO,, NO to the coil spring behind our heads as we travel down the smooth roads of America! That design, however clever for the trailer industry, is only a coil sprung A-arm suspension from the 50's. Any doubts? Look up or ask about "coil spring accidents".
Love the chance to see the new products. Sure wish you would quit swinging the camera around so much. I see Tim and his look doesn’t do a thing for me on the item we are looking or trying to look at. Please show the product more. Tims face doesn’t make me want to reach in my pocket to grab money. Show me the product please!
That step setup is very cool, thank you for the video! I would love to see Lippert make a goosebox setup that somehow works better for short bed truck owners(maybe a slider incorporated)...I would love that.
The step is fantastic as long as it doesn’t take away from the goodies underneath. I don’t know if Lippert has any say or builds the holding tanks but I would love to see 5th wheels especially but also tow behinds come with much larger tank sizes for the ability for boondocking and for the ones that are just a rv park person it won’t matter. Most people that boondocks won’t fill their water tank until they are close to the area because they know the weight difference in MPG.
I was wanting to hear the engineer discuss how the new pin box worked to absorb road shock and chucking. But we somehow missed that opportunity. Dang! Ha.
With what ever they create, they need to make it bird / squirrel proof. I ended up gorilla duct taping my king pin to keep out the squirrel family and birds nests.
Absolutely love the hitch idea and the possibility of being able to switch from a standard kingpin hitch to a gooseneck style hitch as most all the F-450 and F-550 trucks I have access to all have the gooseneck setup. As such, pulling our 35'ft gooseneck flatbed trailer with a fairly heavy load on it, it is very stable and able to move with the road reducing the impact between the truck and the trailer so I'd imagine the same could be said with a 5th wheel type RV. In other words, it's much easier to get into a truck with an existing gooseneck ball on the tow vehicle than it is with a 5th wheel setup ready to go. As for the pull-out steps, great idea and with my Forest River Palomino Columbus, these would more than likely work as my entry door is in front of the axle/wheel assemblies and I don't recall anything being in the way under the frame rails to install this unit. FWIW - I was figuring on $1,800 so I was in the ballpark.
Thanks for the video..great job on the explanation...one key note..there is a difference in purchasing the truck from the dealers lot and actually getting one built from the factory with what dealer you work with...aka, 3/4 ton with a 1 ton capacity...
I still have no idea why someone would prefer a traditional fifth wheel hitch and even a suspension pin box over a Goosebox or gooseneck approved type of attachment. Changing to a Goosebox was THE absolute best modification I did to my Solitude fifth wheel.
While all of the innovations is great all that steal will rust build it with aluminum. More manufacturers need to go in this direction. The end result in better for the consumer
In my experience with these leveling jacks (both power sources) they have two critical deficiencies. One there is no way to manually raise and lower just one jack. More than once my in laws motor home with the electric system has leveled itself and left on jack in the air not on the ground. Two on a lot of 5th wheels because of how low these jacks hang down they are very easily damaged due to the lack of ground clearance. A tire dropping off a curb can very easily result in the jack behind it getting ripped off. I’d love to see a design that gets the jack well up and out of the way when fully retracted such that it’s flush with the bottom of the frame or nearly so.
I’m a little confused on the gooseneck/gooseball version. In the previous video when you showcased this. It reminds me of the Anderson hitch where the ball is attached to the pinbox and the coupler is attached to the truck. Am I reading that right or was it just showcased upside down that it’s like a regular gooseneck connection?
Does the Titan leveling system use the same power system? What I mean is if I had to start replacing one or all of my hydraulic legs, can I buy and install the Titan legs or does the whole hydraulic leveling system have to be changed?
With this video series, I have realized lippert is the oem. The name on the body is just the builder. Just like solar generators. They just store power, they dont generate anything. Convert or invert but not generate.
Well, Lippert is a component that an OEM uses on their product. Just like a coil spring, or shock absorber, or Even a transmission on a pickup truck. That's why it's called an OEM part.
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They should keep the orange color for all frames…might be easier to spot the cracked welds
Alright guys we are going to put some good tires on this unit…..we’ve gotta make something else junkier to make up for it. You just summed up the RV industry.
Lol
It’s called economics. *Every* decision has a cost and resources are not unlimited. Choices have consequences.
@@johnpalmer3848 so you can’t keep all things equal and just opt for premium tires? Something has to offset the extra $75?
@@stevetami1on my enclosed I use 303 on the tires and cover them from uv, my trailer is up at 8500’ so cracking is the issue is have. 303 helps a lot on them.
Yes to coil suspension and pin boxes and most definitely yes to those steps. I hate lifting my steps with rain/snow into my trailer.
More videos like this series.
👍
I love those steps because they look sturdy don't have to stow in the door frame! The biggest problem with current steps folding up into the door is ability to use them while in storage and next to walls or tight places. I wonder if these steps will have a similar problem if having to extend them out a ways before dropping into place? Also can't wait for the new Lippert spring Goose box final version video and product to come to market. Thanks for showing us these really innovative products.
Now if only they would offer a “premium” frame package where they would reinforce known stress areas, go over every weld, clean it, seal it and weld all edges of any brace / gusset / beam. I’d rather pay extra for a commercial grade welding job than premium body paint on the coach. Especially the upper deck fifth wheel area, make it a tank. Not everyone would pay for that but I would.
100%
My suggestion to manufacturers would be instead of offering a frame upgrade, I’d love it if that upgrade was stock. The foundation or the chassis should never be the component used to save money. If you want to save money, do it in the fit and finish and let customers upgrade that as wanted. Just my opinion, and I really enjoy the videos. Lots of good information.
Love the idea of the slide step.
Love the new pin box and steps
Those steps are really nice.
I love the coil pin box and the stairs....when I upgrade my trailer, I would love to have those on it.
The stairs are mint! Assuming that weight on the top stair won’t collapse the assembly. I hope they sell those aftermarket!
Yes, yes, yes to the stairs! $799 price range, perhaps. Our current stairwell is in front of the front tire and there is only frame rail underneath...so make it install with a "lift" after extending to be high enough to step into the coach (just like the one Tim demonstrated).
NO, NO,, NO to the coil spring behind our heads as we travel down the smooth roads of America! That design, however clever for the trailer industry, is only a coil sprung A-arm suspension from the 50's. Any doubts? Look up or ask about "coil spring accidents".
Steps are brilliant.
Love the chance to see the new products. Sure wish you would quit swinging the camera around so much. I see Tim and his look doesn’t do a thing for me on the item we are looking or trying to look at. Please show the product more. Tims face doesn’t make me want to reach in my pocket to grab money. Show me the product please!
That step setup is very cool, thank you for the video! I would love to see Lippert make a goosebox setup that somehow works better for short bed truck owners(maybe a slider incorporated)...I would love that.
Love the steps! I don't care for the tip in steps. I have old school folding one currently
The step is fantastic as long as it doesn’t take away from the goodies underneath. I don’t know if Lippert has any say or builds the holding tanks but I would love to see 5th wheels especially but also tow behinds come with much larger tank sizes for the ability for boondocking and for the ones that are just a rv park person it won’t matter. Most people that boondocks won’t fill their water tank until they are close to the area because they know the weight difference in MPG.
I love those steps👍
I was wanting to hear the engineer discuss how the new pin box worked to absorb road shock and chucking. But we somehow missed that opportunity. Dang! Ha.
Look at the video before this one
@@BigTruckBigRV Thank you. I didn't think to look at past videos to know more about this subject. Appreciate your info.
It would be neat if they made a museum of sorts from when they first started till now. The advancements that have been made would be very educational.
With what ever they create, they need to make it bird / squirrel proof. I ended up gorilla duct taping my king pin to keep out the squirrel family and birds nests.
If they could combine that with a mooryde cushioned pin box, that would cover all the motions.
GREAT STAIRS
Absolutely love the hitch idea and the possibility of being able to switch from a standard kingpin hitch to a gooseneck style hitch as most all the F-450 and F-550 trucks I have access to all have the gooseneck setup. As such, pulling our 35'ft gooseneck flatbed trailer with a fairly heavy load on it, it is very stable and able to move with the road reducing the impact between the truck and the trailer so I'd imagine the same could be said with a 5th wheel type RV. In other words, it's much easier to get into a truck with an existing gooseneck ball on the tow vehicle than it is with a 5th wheel setup ready to go. As for the pull-out steps, great idea and with my Forest River Palomino Columbus, these would more than likely work as my entry door is in front of the axle/wheel assemblies and I don't recall anything being in the way under the frame rails to install this unit. FWIW - I was figuring on $1,800 so I was in the ballpark.
Thanks for the video..great job on the explanation...one key note..there is a difference in purchasing the truck from the dealers lot and actually getting one built from the factory with what dealer you work with...aka, 3/4 ton with a 1 ton capacity...
That slide step system is WAY cool. That trailer as a flat bed would be cool as well. You should do a video review on that tiny camper for fun.
More Lippert, yay.
😂😂
Well, doesn't EVERY RV, I would showcase have Lippert parts? So every video will have Lippert lol
You could review a Northwoods rv.....
They would work great for the rear door of a toyhauler
Finally some good engineering.
I still have no idea why someone would prefer a traditional fifth wheel hitch and even a suspension pin box over a Goosebox or gooseneck approved type of attachment. Changing to a Goosebox was THE absolute best modification I did to my Solitude fifth wheel.
While all of the innovations is great all that steal will rust build it with aluminum. More manufacturers need to go in this direction. The end result in better for the consumer
Stairs would have a very limited application as an after market product. Gonna be hard to compete with MorRyde Step Above or the Torklift Glow Step
Since Lippert is making the helux gooseball version. Does that mean it will be certified for their fames and won’t void the warranty?
In my experience with these leveling jacks (both power sources) they have two critical deficiencies. One there is no way to manually raise and lower just one jack. More than once my in laws motor home with the electric system has leveled itself and left on jack in the air not on the ground. Two on a lot of 5th wheels because of how low these jacks hang down they are very easily damaged due to the lack of ground clearance. A tire dropping off a curb can very easily result in the jack behind it getting ripped off. I’d love to see a design that gets the jack well up and out of the way when fully retracted such that it’s flush with the bottom of the frame or nearly so.
Those steps, while very nice, shouldn't run more than ~750. They're STEPS. Cool pin box!
Can they make these stairs NOT as wide that may work better with floor plans.
Love them steps… would need to be 500 or under to replace what I have does the job
Will a air ride 5th wheel hitch help with frame flex???
Since it absorbs shock, which is part of the cause of the house portion coming loose, it does help.
I’m a little confused on the gooseneck/gooseball version. In the previous video when you showcased this. It reminds me of the Anderson hitch where the ball is attached to the pinbox and the coupler is attached to the truck. Am I reading that right or was it just showcased upside down that it’s like a regular gooseneck connection?
Does the Titan leveling system use the same power system? What I mean is if I had to start replacing one or all of my hydraulic legs, can I buy and install the Titan legs or does the whole hydraulic leveling system have to be changed?
steps look like a copy of Spacecraft RV steps
Really appreciate your videos, if you would talk a little less and let the product representatives get to explain what we are looking at.
Thanks Russ
THEY HAVE NOT FIXED THE FRAME FLEX WITH THIS DESIGN
Maybe we'll see an off-road 5th wheel soon? 🤔🤔🤔
off-road 5th wheel = oxymoron // not enough lateral movement in a 5vr for that..
and..............they make Schwintek so there is that...................
There is a company that makes a better slide system called vroom
With this video series, I have realized lippert is the oem. The name on the body is just the builder. Just like solar generators. They just store power, they dont generate anything. Convert or invert but not generate.
Well, Lippert is a component that an OEM uses on their product. Just like a coil spring, or shock absorber, or Even a transmission on a pickup truck. That's why it's called an OEM part.
ask them about a newer version of Schwintek..... my comments are disappearing...?
I'm sorry, I didn't see any comments regarding it.. not sure, but it's not in any flagged comments either. What was the question you had?
@@BigTruckBigRV it’s probably not you, RUclips does that to me all the time part of being a Trump supporter…
It was the above comment. Thanks.
Six minutes wasted time still describing nothing