Gold Experience Requiem Would LOSE To Made In Heaven (According To Araki)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @JobberGodot
    @JobberGodot  7 месяцев назад +15

    In case I wasn’t clear enough, I will not be seriously responding to anyone in the comments section if they do not have the phrase I told them to have in the beginning as said in my video, and the phrase shows up at the end of my video, to prove and be easy to tell if you haven’t watched the video or simply skimmed it (Specially when I see some of y’all strawman and put words in my mouth). Also people having specific questions or points against my video that is actually covered in my “Gold Experience Requiem: Narrative Misconceptions” video, which was a call to action at the beginning of this video that you NEED to watch. It is not my fault that these people cannot follow basic instructions and don’t have basic pattern recognition. Oh and also check the video description.

    • @shriderrad4123
      @shriderrad4123 7 месяцев назад +6

      Bro you sound so upset in the video, legit who's the GER fan who bullied you? I'll have a talk with their mom

    • @StummyTicklePickle
      @StummyTicklePickle 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@shriderrad4123 dude you sound like a Giorno glazer fr. Not even I glaze that hard.

    • @shriderrad4123
      @shriderrad4123 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@StummyTicklePickle I sound like a "Giorno glazer" despite my comment not even originally mentioning Giorno. Lmao yeah that makes sense.

    • @StummyTicklePickle
      @StummyTicklePickle 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@shriderrad4123 " ill have a talk with their mom" - 🤓

    • @shriderrad4123
      @shriderrad4123 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@StummyTicklePickle "yOu SoUnd LIke a GiOrnO GlAzEr fR"-🤡

  • @jinxstardust4661
    @jinxstardust4661 7 месяцев назад +9

    Ngl I appreciate you taking the time to explain and bring understanding to a cesspool of a scaling community at the best of times, I just personally moved on but I dead ass still enjoy your content. A side note, I personally don't care for when authors make the next ultimate thing or the greatest power and use words that in my personal interpretation make something sound unbeatable even after it's been introduced. Terms like the final power, ultimate power beyond any other, or the greatest there ever is or will be etc. When they're still writing a story and know they have to top it my old interpretation of GER was because it had no stats it's capabilities were off the charts and in some ways for me it still is. But when you compare it to something like made in heaven a favorite stand of mine for it's goofy look, it's kinda lack luster in a way but I'll say it's kinda on Araki for this one @JobberGodot because he did some, let's call it what it really is, clunky and wonky ass writing with GER I love him for it and I'm also perplexed by it at times which is personally why I just try to enjoy the story and stands and wacky abilities they may have than powerscaling it just drains the fun out of things for me. Not a declaration that I'll stop watching your vids just me putting my two cents in to say while I enjoy your content this argument got old and fuck the detractors at this point I'm curious about other stuff you may wanna post.

  • @TyeGraybill-um4do
    @TyeGraybill-um4do 7 месяцев назад +15

    The fact you went back to clip this, and make a whole new video out of it... Now I REALLY can understand where your coming from with some Jojo Fans...

  • @John-fo4wp
    @John-fo4wp Месяц назад

    Thank you for clearing up misconceptions in the JoJo’s community. It honestly makes me mad hearing people say that GER is the strongest stand, despite the fact that it’s clearly not. Again, thank you so much. Keep Climbing man

  • @khaoticlol
    @khaoticlol 5 месяцев назад +7

    Why does GER get glazed so hard?

    • @John-fo4wp
      @John-fo4wp Месяц назад

      A LOT of people only watch up until Part 5 so they can’t comprehend there being stands stronger than it, so they make up lies about GER to make it to where it always wins

  • @TamakiDamoismyhusbando
    @TamakiDamoismyhusbando 7 месяцев назад +8

    How does this affect DIO's legacy?

  • @mistra809
    @mistra809 7 месяцев назад +12

    We know that weather report is the ultimate stand.

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 7 месяцев назад +1

      More like ultimate *sspull

    • @puccilion
      @puccilion 7 месяцев назад +2

      white snake blitzed that shit 🗣🗣

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@puccilion don't worry, weather or i say heavy weather has ability ready to go to counter him in rematch:)

  • @EMan-xj5cz
    @EMan-xj5cz 7 месяцев назад +3

    I haven’t been in the jojo community for a while now let alone watched your videos and wow you sound different

  • @saadsami8860
    @saadsami8860 6 месяцев назад +5

    The nightmare of ger fan keep slamming those fan fiction mfs they can't prove ger is stronger without head canon and opinion lol

    • @fritesketechup2651
      @fritesketechup2651 4 месяца назад +1

      If you follow that golden experience returne to zero reset all action yes he will beat every one

  • @Doxe420
    @Doxe420 7 месяцев назад +37

    Made in Heaven simpy blitzes.
    Cook Jobber👨‍🍳

    • @barnabassebesteny1490
      @barnabassebesteny1490 7 месяцев назад +2

      But OUT OF CHARACTER wouldn’t Giorno just blitz him before he can accelerate time in a HYPOTHETICAL FAIR FIGHT scenario? (I just wanna make HYPOTHETICAL FAIR FIGHT clear to make it evident I am NOT putting him the the unfair p6 scenario) also like Pucci cannot accelerate time to infinity instantly or else he would have just killed the gang immediately (since Pucci doesn’t develop an ego till after he kills Jotaro and resets we cannot use the ego excuse like we could with DIO for example), if he can this is a plot hole, and made worse by Novel Kars’ MIH ultimate requiem being unique due to being able to reset and infinitly accelerate instantly which would have been pointless to call him “ultimate requiem” if MIH had that by default unless we argue MIH is the new potential man, like novel had no problem calling Killer Queen “Killer Queen” without any silly nicknames. So like can we stop the glaze please and just admit Toji Fushiguro Jojo edition is a bush camping prep time merchant (no disrespect like he is my favourite villain too but like let’s not glaze him and in terms of og universe villains to beat GER with just call his dad)

    • @Doxe420
      @Doxe420 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​​@@barnabassebesteny1490 The speed of time doesn't correlate to the speed of Pucci.
      Jotaro literally stated that with how fast time is moving, He should be moving at max, Mach 2.4
      But before AND after that, He managed to blitz Jotaro (MFTL+)
      Its just quite clear that Pucci is already MFTL+ at the start of Time Acceleration.
      He could blitz Star Platinum, Dodge his attacks at point blank range and move so fast that neither Jotaro nor Star Platinum could keep up with him.
      You can also bring up the end of Stone Ocean where Pucci was instantly faster than Weather Report, Managing to weave his punches and get behind him before he could even percieve it.
      *If Pucci is faster than Star Platinum, He's BEYOND faster than G.E.R*
      Also, G.E.R has no way to significantly damage Pucci in the case he hit him.
      His attack potency doesn't even compare to pucci's durability
      So even if you were nice to Giorno and said he blitzes before Pucci picks up speed, He would literally scratch Pucci.
      Basically, He blitzes and bypass rtz with no issues.

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Doxe420that's not how trz works, it simply negates the action beyond space and time which are Harmful to user

    • @brick.8591
      @brick.8591 7 месяцев назад

      HERE HE IS, DOXE!

    • @m.k.6966
      @m.k.6966 7 месяцев назад +1

      Two cookers at the same commentary section? Crazy, you two are spitting fax.
      Btw Doxe, your “Doxes husband obtained his ultimate stand” shirt is very funny ngl, I’m waiting for the SP VS GER vid 🤞🤞

  • @ohhellwhereami2574
    @ohhellwhereami2574 7 месяцев назад +9

    Pretty sure you're being unaware of truth since that's is GER ability crazy how it can affect ppl outside the story truly op

  • @jessechavez5602
    @jessechavez5602 2 месяца назад

    its not really a power factor with puchi. he just has so much momentum and speed that you might as well have been shot with a missile

  • @FemaleRepellentGD
    @FemaleRepellentGD 7 месяцев назад +2

    Boingo’s stand from part 3 could defeat mih

  • @goku-bb5si
    @goku-bb5si 7 месяцев назад +9

    Isn't it stated that when the gang in part 5 make the arrow pierce with their stand they would gain something beyond stand abilities by polnareff? so wouldn't it be the opposite way around since made in heaven is classified as a stand power and whatever GER has isn't?

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 7 месяцев назад +9

      GER is above every stand in the original timeline
      Jobber is being a clown

    • @josephrogers3666
      @josephrogers3666 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@cyrus8886as of part 5 mabye but not at part 6 since made in heaven exists

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@josephrogers3666 her has the ultimate stand title as far as steel ball run
      Araki's narrative intention with GER are very clear
      Now if you wanna join jobber in his clownery by all means go ahead

    • @josephrogers3666
      @josephrogers3666 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@cyrus8886 star platinum the world is also called and ultimate ability/stand that’s not a valid point and also araki says MIH is the strongest yet and more up to date the statement more valid it it therefore MIH>GER

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@josephrogers3666 In your dreams maybe

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 7 месяцев назад +6

    I'd agree to disagree with this for the sole reason that It was also stated that Jotaro's Star Platinum is the strongest stand in Part 6 in his character profile. That leads me to believe that SP is the strongest regular stand until Made in Heaven is introduced. So Made in Heaven can be the strongest regular stand in the original series while GER being a requiem stand is still stronger. But I'd still say that it's open to interpretation, you make a convincing argument.

    • @saadsami8860
      @saadsami8860 6 месяцев назад +5

      Or that ger isn't really that strong and jotaro w agents him

  • @seemavishwakarma764
    @seemavishwakarma764 6 месяцев назад +1

    Jobber godot i am your big fan I want you to recognize me i have a pretty good question about jotaro star platinum time stop if you are free please answer whenever you want

  • @adamnoobmaster7490
    @adamnoobmaster7490 7 месяцев назад

    But Jotaro’s time stop did threaten Pucci’s Made in Heaven’s speed power. Pucci had to be far away from him. If they were to fight in closed area, maybe SP has better chances to win

  • @maylabrown4584
    @maylabrown4584 7 месяцев назад +7

    GER is not a regular Stand, MIH is just a regular Stand, while GER and it's effects are the result of it being an evolved form of a Stand. It's like in Bleach where Ichigo and Aizen have transcended beyond a normal Shinigami to a higher point of existing. GER would not "lose" to Made In Heaven, if anything, it would either come up to the way that either Stand is used by their User.

    • @afluffy_ali
      @afluffy_ali 7 месяцев назад +6

      MIH isn't a regular stand. Pucci literally achieved heaven.

  • @electricburst0986
    @electricburst0986 6 месяцев назад +8

    Araki literally said himself GER beats made in heaven with ease around the time part 6 anime was near the end

    • @JobberGodot
      @JobberGodot  6 месяцев назад +8

      Source?

    • @MrBrianpdj
      @MrBrianpdj 6 месяцев назад

      Source?! We’re still waiting @electricburst0986

    • @dalcomaroni9837
      @dalcomaroni9837 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@JobberGodot JoJoveller's artbook (Araki confirmed that Return to 0 and Gold experience requiem >> each stand (the artbook has all the parts of JoJo up to the beginning of part 8. The only stand that are greater than GER are soft and wet go beyond and wonder of u).

    • @maku3857
      @maku3857 3 месяца назад +1

      @@dalcomaroni9837can I ask what it said that implies it’s greater

    • @dalcomaroni9837
      @dalcomaroni9837 3 месяца назад +3

      @@maku3857 ??
      i didn't understand your question

  • @breadrz6120
    @breadrz6120 7 месяцев назад +1

    Another person who agrees that ger just has average human strength.

    • @memememe7081
      @memememe7081 Месяц назад +1

      Sure as hell not average human strength but far from the strongest, I’m pretty sure CD probably has stronger AP

  • @spookybones2248
    @spookybones2248 7 месяцев назад

    Where’s that Baki vs Joseph video fn 👁️

  • @cotton-bread1245
    @cotton-bread1245 7 месяцев назад

    Wasn't fate in every main villain fight?

  • @grimer_8736
    @grimer_8736 4 месяца назад +3

    "MIH can blitz GER" mf's do not read the manga or watch the anime, it take MIH time for him to accelerate

    • @mabFullMoon
      @mabFullMoon 3 месяца назад +4

      At the beginning of the reboot he blitzed Star Platinum horribly, and I think if you're a jojofan and you send others to read the manga, it's because you're pretty sure Araki never put Star Platinum above GER, oh wait, that's exactly what Araki did

    • @grimer_8736
      @grimer_8736 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mabFullMoon that is because afrer Pucci obtained MIH, Jotaro and the orher blacked out for who knows how long

    • @memememe7081
      @memememe7081 Месяц назад

      @@mabFullMoonGER ain’t the strongest stand in canon Jojo for sure but, Araki put Star Platinum as the strongest stand because he’s literally the strongest stand physically, without hax.
      Most of ger’s powerset come from hax

    • @mabFullMoon
      @mabFullMoon Месяц назад +1

      @@memememe7081 It is physically stronger than GER and Time Stop is stronger than RTZ

    • @memememe7081
      @memememe7081 Месяц назад

      @@mabFullMoon meh, debatable.
      Let’s say GER only caps out at silver chariot highballing with combat speed ignoring the whole irrelevant speed GER argument, I still doubt that Araki would actually make Giorno lose to regular Dio narratively but mostly in terms of how time stop actually works, whether or not it’s through speed or through hax itself.
      If it’s a speed based ability (as in going so fast that every other character is actually frozen, not just going a fraction at the speed of light) then yeah Star Platinum would blitz RTZ.
      If Time Stop is a hax based ability, however, then I feel as if GER would notice and he would indeed revert it if any time stopper tried it, as he did with King Crimson’s ability since whether you see it as him actually erasing time or erasing cognition, Golden Experience was pretty much had heightened senses to some extent and broke into his ability despite it.
      I’m 90% sure timestop isn’t really a speed amp because not only did Pucci move in it during his C-moon arc due to his gravity manipulation (something that wouldn’t have been possible unless Pucci can passively perceive time at a standstill) or how Tusk was also able to move in timestop due to his infinite rotation that is heavily centered around gravity (again, something that couldn’t happen unless Tusk Act 4’s infinite rotation is spinning at infinite speeds or the wormholes move at an infinite speed as well which again doesn’t really have any bearing to it whatsoever).
      Basically what I’m saying is, if you believe every stand that has ever moved in timestop has nigh-teleportation level speed/perception, then sure GER gets blitzed with this one, but P7 stands are slow as fuck honestly and MIH wasn’t even able to move in stopped time despite having speeds that far surpassed Star platinum a thousand years ago in the fight, but only shorten it which again only makes sense if you look at this from a hax perspective.

  • @DrakoNotDraco
    @DrakoNotDraco 6 месяцев назад +1

    If Oda says Current Luffy loses to East Blue Sanji is he correct?

    • @saadsami8860
      @saadsami8860 6 месяцев назад +3

      This is literally a fallacy sense fight in jojo works differently lol
      Ger hax isn't stronger then mih people keap making head canon over ger until people forget what the hax was lol

    • @DrakoNotDraco
      @DrakoNotDraco 13 дней назад

      ​@@saadsami8860 its inherently the same

  • @mariocraft3067
    @mariocraft3067 7 месяцев назад

    Isn’t there supposed to be a word at the end of this video? Unless you count the Godot reference as a “word”.
    To play Diavolo’s advocate, how do you figure that Araki was specifically referring to strength when he said “surpassed”? The rest of the statement has to do with him feeling creatively fulfilled, so wouldn’t it stand to reason that MiH and its effects simply “surpasses” all of his previous ideas in terms of creativity? You also claim in the title that “GER would lose to MiH” according to Araki, but if you showed evidence of that, I certainly didn’t catch it, unless you are trying to say that an ability being stronger than all others by necessity means that it can’t lose to any other ability?

    • @JobberGodot
      @JobberGodot  7 месяцев назад +1

      Because Araki says that Pucci gaining a stronger ability is relevant to Part 6 and resetting the entire JoJo bloodline, and that the ability couldn’t be surpassed, all ideas within his own creativity implemented into the story. He only talks about the MiH ability functions and that he deems that no stand ability could surpass it. And that’s how he wanted and did end Stone Ocean, that was his creative ideas at their limit. He thought that JoJo would end there as he was running out of ideas

    • @StummyTicklePickle
      @StummyTicklePickle 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think you're underrating GER. GER can take the entirety of something and revert it to a previous state. This includes any action the target takes and leaves GER unaffected by it (i.e., Giorno would be affected by time stop, but GER would not). This puts anything it affects in a constant loop of being put back to zero depending on what GER has done to the target. If GER was to kill a target, they would be constantly put in an infinite loop of deaths[28], each one varying from the next. The ability can be described as taking the "effect" out of "cause and effect". GER was able to bypass diavolo's time erase meaning he's also can bypass space and time. This means Giorno is being that transcends time and could punch you at every point in time casually. Time transcends durability would mean that only beings that can inflict damage across time would be able to harm you. Time transcendent speed is called immeserable since your basically trying to calculate distance over a negative amount of time and thus end up with a negative speed. This means Giorno/ GER has irrelevant speed (meanwhile pucci has immeasurable speed). Transcending space and time and/or moving in a structure transcendent to space and time gives a character Irrelevant speed via them bypassing the formula of speed (D/T, D=distance T=time). In other words, both of these factors are meaningless to characters/structures transcendent to space and time, therefore they can't be measured (this is similar to how moving in a structure where time doesn't flow gives a character inaccessible speed). So I think its safe to say, Giorno slams.

    • @fritesketechup2651
      @fritesketechup2651 4 месяца назад

      ​@@JobberGodotwhy you don't answer my man in high

    • @JobberGodot
      @JobberGodot  2 месяца назад +1

      He just copies and pasted the same argument that’s not only irrelevant to the video and something I’ve already debunked. But he didn’t actually any of the videos he commented on, how do I know? He doesn’t have the “word” I gave the viewer to prove they actually watched the video. Dude’s a certified GER meatrider desperate for attention I’ll never give or entertain him

  • @syrexlee2021
    @syrexlee2021 7 месяцев назад +11

    GER surpassed all existing stands and his stats can’t be compared with existing ones.
    Notorious B.I.G has Inf speed, plus Star Platinum P3 is a peak SP version.
    So it’s officially stated that GER surpasses infinity and SP in every aspect.
    GER hatred lobby negged again and exposed🤡

    • @afluffy_ali
      @afluffy_ali 7 месяцев назад +9

      So basically, since burning down the house has all none stats it's as strong as ger? Your logic is stupid

    • @afluffy_ali
      @afluffy_ali 7 месяцев назад +7

      Also where is it officially stated that GER surpasses infinity

    • @ifanythingiwant
      @ifanythingiwant 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@afluffy_ali Exactly. People act like part 5 came out at the same time as 6 and 7 fsr smh

    • @izumi_UA
      @izumi_UA 5 месяцев назад

      BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE - なし
      G.E.R - 持続力 + なし​@@afluffy_ali

    • @izumi_UA
      @izumi_UA 5 месяцев назад

      「矢」によって進化したレクイエムの能力は、既存のスタンドと同じ物差しで比べるのは不可能。あらゆる意志や力をゼロにしてしまう能力は、本体のジョルノでさえも気づいていないのだ。
      The Requiem abilities evolved by the "Arrow" cannot be measured by the same scale as existing stands. Its power to reduce all will and force to zero is something even its user, Giorno, is not aware of.
      B-b-ut it's about rtz 🥺🥺
      No, 1) It was stated under his stats, as with all stands
      2) Stand abilities that have their own stats, have always been separated
      BITES THE DUST as an example
      3) Araki calls "abilities," also as physical characteristics. By example:
      →指一本でエメラルド・スプラッ シュを弾き返す。この程度の攻擊 であれば、時を止めるまでもなく 基本能力だけで対応してしまう。
      With just one finger, he deflects the Emerald Splash. If the attack is of this level, he can handle it with his basic abilities without even needing to stop time. ​@@afluffy_ali

  • @gilshtrahman8696
    @gilshtrahman8696 7 месяцев назад +2

    Screw GER, screw MiH, screw SP:TW, Rohan's speed solos.

    • @puccilion
      @puccilion 7 месяцев назад +1

      all that just for a bodybuilder to speedblitz his ahh 💀

  • @ifanythingiwant
    @ifanythingiwant 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have one thing that should disprove all of the, "GER is infinitely above all Stands," people: In (I believe) Jojo-a-Gogo, it specifically states that, at least in terms of speed, MIH is second only to God himself. It also states that Star Platinum is *the* strongest Stand. Note that it's "strongest," not "most powerful," as in Star Platinum would beat GER in an arm-wrestling match but GER has better hax

  • @kenjallorina1660
    @kenjallorina1660 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a Josuke (4) power scale and The Potential of restoration

  • @Ajlee-wi4wf
    @Ajlee-wi4wf 7 месяцев назад

    Didn't he loose to some kid

    • @puccilion
      @puccilion 7 месяцев назад +1

      and 💀

    • @elviswilliams1131
      @elviswilliams1131 7 месяцев назад +5

      Didn't diavolo lose to 15 year old? Didn't kira and dio lose to a high schooler? what is your point here

    • @georgeleaman
      @georgeleaman 7 месяцев назад +4

      Didn't he win against anasui, ermes, jotaro, and jolyne, the only reason he lost was because of fate

    • @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
      @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec Месяц назад

      @@georgeleaman That which fate can be surpass? You knos? Like how he beat Fates by defeating Jotaro and Jolyne?

  • @RandomPuff538
    @RandomPuff538 7 месяцев назад

    Still like GER

  • @Ragnarok072
    @Ragnarok072 7 месяцев назад +1

    NEVER COOK AGAIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @authorbat5562
    @authorbat5562 7 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, the last powerscaling guy was boring but you’re just annoying.

    • @puccilion
      @puccilion 7 месяцев назад +7

      cry about it

    • @elviswilliams1131
      @elviswilliams1131 7 месяцев назад +4

      So because he doesn't think Ger solos everyone he's annoying to you

    • @saadsami8860
      @saadsami8860 6 месяцев назад +4

      Ger fans crying because they can't say bs and head canon anymore to make that fodder strong

  • @FriendlyDarkwraith
    @FriendlyDarkwraith 7 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate the anti-GER agenda. But King Crimson does, in fact, erase time. Gonna go watch that whole video now.

  • @adamnoobmaster7490
    @adamnoobmaster7490 7 месяцев назад

    I agree mostly
    SP ane MiH> Ger
    Araki confirms it

  • @DoctorCanez
    @DoctorCanez 6 месяцев назад

    So ig metas scaling was delusional and so am i.

  • @CarlosBlanco-n1k
    @CarlosBlanco-n1k 7 месяцев назад +25

    Na you are wrong

    • @JobberGodot
      @JobberGodot  7 месяцев назад +33

      You do realize that by spamming the same comment on any of my videos you disagree with and even going as far as to use another alt account to do so, you’re only helping my videos gain traction in the YT algorithm? Thank you bro, my biggest fan 😈

    • @CarlosBlanco-n1k
      @CarlosBlanco-n1k 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@JobberGodot na

    • @CarlosBlanco-n1k
      @CarlosBlanco-n1k 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@JobberGodot still wrong

    • @Ramdomjjbaenjoyer732
      @Ramdomjjbaenjoyer732 7 месяцев назад +2

      Iggy?

    • @miranhaespada1381
      @miranhaespada1381 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@JobberGodotjobber chill, if it's already that way for so long, the guy isn't stopping
      And My dude with no name, the "nah I'd win" card didn't even work to the honored one,
      Just saying "nah, u wrong 😠" won't win u anything