I use these Ki stuns so little... and that’s ONLY when the person I’m fighting is the one that initiates with ki cancelling. It really shouldn’t be a thing considering that certain things SHOULD be punishable. It isn’t right for you to get out of your own mistakes with a ki cancel.
Ki stunning and stamina breaks was something i never expected when I came from xeno1 and it makes me disappointed the way these people play. But steedoj u show them up good job
supersanluigi Same here. Fighting against one of if not the slowest race in the whole game, and they still have to Ki Blast Stun/Cancel. In my opinion, if you're so reliant on Ki Blast Stuns/Cancels that you have to use them against a Female Saiyan, you really need to either stop playing the game, or actually learn how to play it without training wheels.
Brandon Hawker I find it even more pathetic if you are playing a female saiyan and they are using theres and all they do is ki blast stun/cancel with a cheese build like wtf
supersanluigi I main a male saiyan(never use cheap combos) and whenever I *destroy* ki stunners, they always call me out for being cheap. And I fucking refuse to ki stun someone
If Ki Blast Cancelling would cost some Ki to do, it'd be somewhat fair (at least, in my opinion) - that aside though, I prefer the other cancels (step, Guard, etc) over Ki Blast Cancels because any counter can wreck those Ki Blast Cancels if done well enough. Plus, if someone cancels too slowly, you can still punish it. However, in the hands of someone good... yeah, it's definitely a powerful tool. Mad props to anyone that doesn't use them, including you, Steedoj. Actually trying to tone down my Ki Blast cancels as much as I can just to see how far I can push my limits, not to mention it teaches people to actually be more careful with attacking wildly.
Hmm, I have a problem with key stunning, however key cancelling is something I don’t necessarily see as broken or unfair. If we’re comparing it to other fighting games it reminds me of option selects (buffering a special move so if a punishable block string is blocked, it will cancel into a safe special or in some cases a different string will come out but on hit the unsafe string will come out.) It’s definitely annoying, but Due to the fact every character can do it I find it acceptable. If we’re talking about xy’s with male saiyans/earthlings then I would agree. Also in a game like this, if you look at vegito blue or teen Gohan (characters that do a long string of punches) I feel like ki cancelling is fair game.
In Xenoverse 3 they need to make regular ki blasts not stun and just do damage or at least up the frames of the animation to where it's only +2 frames if they hit instead of the ridiculous amount of stun it gives while having so little end lag
I think ki cancels are fair when the opponent is stamina broken because if used in a good way, it’s good for combo links. but others may use it for spam combos (cough cough male Saiyans heavy attack)
On the note of launching ki blasts. I have actually noticed that I don't use Ki Cancels (not ki stuns) as much as I use to. But I still have the same win/loss rate as I use to, so I think I had actually gotten better at the game. My win/loss rate on most of my cacs: Male Saiyan is 62%, Female Saiyans is 43%, Male Earthlings is 78% ( way too easy to use), and the rest is just around 50%
Ur right steedoj,Im mainly a ps4 player and still see that shit.It gets annoying,and the fact that the average Xenoverse player thinks thats a skill is a complete joke to me.It is.Ki stunners shouldnt even play xenoverse at all if they keep doing that shit over and over again.They need proper training and skill in Xenoverse 2.I learned how to play better by mainly learning from u,Steedoj.Ur one of the best Xenoverse players Ive seen.Top 5 actually.I hope we get to fight tho,that be great,thanks.
I think the only time ki cancelling online is fair is: 1. What you mentioned; On characters and CaC builds that are generally slower. 2. Used against obvious cheap/cheese builds. and/or 3. only when extending a combo after a fair, successful stamina break.
I think what they should do is this , remove ki cancelling , make it so knock down combos enable most follow ups , but if vanished , you’re wide open , whereas knock always have much less follow ups , but can be cancelled into a back hit
On one end ki stuns help fight against cheap players and ki cancels help by allowing you to move right after your combo misses or to do infinites On the other hand ki stunning can be used to stun your character and make you waste your stamina and it’s annoying to deal with when the opponent absuses it. As for ki canceling again someone can abuse this mechanic as well It’s hard to decide which one is good or bad my answer is it depends on the player who uses these mechanics
Totally agree If it's a bad/horrible character or race ki blast cancels are understandable for the most part just dont spam it the whole match when you're already using a busted character
I think to fix some of the issues would be Perfect blocks can’t be done out of a dash, or, dashing doesn’t have I-frames. Ki canceling doesn’t give I-frames either, or just make it so there is a buffer between shooting a Ki blast and doing a basic attack. Maybe have some races who are fast just can’t Ki cancel? I’m pretty casual at the PvP in this game so, I have issues when thinking of how to give improvements over to this game lmao.
'll be the one to try and defend a tactic. in a fighting game like this cancels sometimes are necessary, so when you're stuck in a combo and using a cancel to stop doing a combo is fine, BUT! spamming it for the I-frames is unnecessary, and makes you look stupid in battle. I might be called out for being a scrub for using cancels or stuns tactfully, but in the end those can help when your not using an OP build in this games ranked.
Just a suggestion but can you do a Dokkan Boss battle type of video. The idea is that you play as one of the bosses. When ever you win you change into their next form. Example: The Ultra Instinct event -God Goku to Blue -Blue to Base (Spirit Bomb needed) -Base to UI (there’s no omen so just MUI) Doesn’t matter which event you pick though
So, you're saying, that I was one of the few races (female saiyan) who it was "more acceptable" to do a ki cancel, and I have barely even seen why it was useful until like a couple of weeks ago? Damn, I'm feeling that I messed up by not learning how to ki cancel. I never thought you would be the one to give me that feeling.
When people use it to get out of animations I don't mind but everything else I absolutely agree with. Have you seen that new cheese were people boost Dash and use the extra input to get behind you and as soon as they hit you they go in to power pole combo that you can't vanish or get out of even if you dodge it with a steppe vanish or step Dash that power pole combo just has enough range to trap you in another combo
Okay this is the only time you'll find me defending Ki stunning I think you should only use it to avoid back hits, back hits in this game are so inconsistent and it's literally a huge risk to try to perfect block it . Especially when you're trying to avoid characters /CAC with long range back & fast hits like your namekian, male saiyans Majins, and male earthling. Or your characters with super armor back hits like Gogeta, UI Goku, and Jiren
I can understand when players spam ki blast canceling. Like ki blast cancel to the left, ki blast cancel to the right every second, I've fought those types of players. But what other things can you use ki blasts for? Damage? the only function for ki blasts is to follow up combos, get out of long animations, and as well as ki blast canceling but not being it your only engage, cause that's just not fun.
I only do Ki Stun when I see the other guy abusing the IF of back hits, plus Ki Canceling to get away from some combos animation. The problem is that people abuse those too much, and its hell of annoying.
Ki Cancelling is "fair" only in 2 situations: 1. To cancel out of a combo because you're not gonna stun the opponent since he's behind you (PAUSE) unless we're talking about Hit 2. To TRY and stop a timid player who is vanishing until time runs out. To use it before anything, giving it more priority than trying to land a clean punch is cheap. 12:32 #WakandaForever
I think i said this in an earlier video about ki cancelling but the problem is what you can do after firing one. You shouldnt be alllwed to step after a ki blast. In older games, the only thing you were allowed to do was attack and even back then it wasnt as busted
Whenever people Ki stun I do the same back, but I usually get hate mail because I used to be a sweaty nerd and I just ruin their day, now I just chill tbh.
Kashami and I actually talked about this. We both agreed Ki cancelling is unfair because it's breaking the animation of the fighting mechanics programmed into the game, whereas ki blast stuns are fair because it's your fault if you get hit by them
I fought this guy before, he's so annoying. I'm average at the game and I'm trying to have fun but Ki cancel is so stupid and pretty broken. Thank you for beating him.
I actually never play online except for raids and expert missions, so I don't have an opinion on that. Hell, I don't even know how to ki cancel because my brain doesn't process the idea of pressing 'B' on my controller.
I think ki blast adds speed and a spectacular dimension to the fight, it forces both players To be even more reactiv and not just to give up and wait for the consequences of a bad move because ki blast cancel enables you to fix a mistake if you are fast enough
Yes that’s true but ki stunning is a whole other problem it is a messed up thing to do in a fight and gives you an unfair advantage you can’t counter at all
Ki Cancelling is fair because really there isn't anything that gives you an advantage besides being taken out of a combo thats too slow, besides it doesn't take skill, but Ki Stuns are bs because it stuns you for a whole second and your wide open to be put in any combo, but Ki Cancels idrc
btw Steedoj, I think Ki cancels are okay if you don't spam them, use them sparingly or for combos but like a sweet combo not a ki cancel only combo.. or to close in at an opponent mid range..depends on the situation. Like I use it 1 to 3 times a match.. not like the entire time
I've never had an issue with ki canceling. No one's ever used it against in a way where I thought it was unfair. I use it to extend combos and confuse or throw off my opponent personally. It's kinda like a jab in boxing or a faint. Keeps your opponent on their toes. So to me it's fair but I'm a rare kind of person who believes nothing is unfair bcus I should be able to get out of it or get around it, if I'm truly good at the game.
Well, I kinda swing both ways when it comes to ki stun. On one hand, I like it because it's pretty handy for punishing TIMID/overly defensive players, but on the other hand, it's really not all that fun to fight some one who refuses to attack unless you're ki stunned. In other news, sheesh, I think the real reason people keep using these cheap tactics is because everyone's so excessively hostile that they just want everyone else to suffer.
I honestly use Ki Canceling on my Namekian since he is the slowest out of my Cacs, and only use it for slow characters ONLY to recover I don't ki stun someone constantly to hit them, if someone does constantly ki stun me then I'll do it back to them.
This is my opinions that thinking there is no an exactly way to play the game. I am one of the fans on this game.I think spamming ki blast is not very bad because it depends on how you use it well or not. You can also think that ki blast is an aid for players who are not very good at footwork. Actually, I think it's not cheat although I used to use it before but at the same time, I know how to defeat this kind of tactic. Facing the ki blast tactic players can also train your reaction ability. I know that ki blast will help you easier to catch others and make you can't be caught easier.However, It's also a good practice and challenge for you to know how to defeat it and avoid the ki stun. Finally, I know that there are too many cheat in the game but it is just a game. I know that's why people don't like xenoverse 2. In fact I don't like cheat too but i still playing the game.It's because i have an aim to become the strongest player in the game. Therefore, I am trying to defeat all the players including spammers, cheat-players and players who play seriously. I know that many people think spammers and cheat-players are so annoying but it's just a game and you are able to defeat them. There is one thing that i agree with Steedoj, Spamming and cheating will not improve your skill because you're only stop at the point that using the same moves for too many time. *I don't understand that why people(some of players) always say that you are cheating. But actually they are just don't believe that they lost .* There is a news for you guys also. It's the networking problem will be deal with. It's meaning that Xenoverse 2 will not have too many lag (Distance area problem) again! Thanks you guys watching this comment! And please discuss it politely!!!!!
I can somewhat understand canceling. Naive people who think they have an opening, really don’t. However it’s really annoying when people spam it the whole time and gets really tedious. Not to mention when you finally land a “hit” the lags says fuck you and they still dash away and kick you in your throat. Ki stunning is very stupid. I understand ki blasting to reset a combo when stamina broken or knocking someone down but just waiting to land a blast and finally engage is really stupid. With that being said, I guess the stun time compensated for the lack of damage or any other utilization. Welp that’s my view on stunning and canceling
Ki stunning and relying on that to hit people, nah I dislike that from a player. Ki canceling out of animation / after a person has vanished to reposition / reset, I honestly don't mind it. Personally I see nothing wrong with Ki cancelling, Negoy does it (not spamming it ofc), for one and he's a really talented player, i learnt alot from him. But the thing that confused me the most, is that if a random person does it it's not fair / unacceptable, but if a good player + RUclipsr is to do it no one bats an eyelid, correct me if I've got the wrong idea, but that's the kind of stuff I've noticed.
Bladesofmight You're actually right. Both Rhymestyle and Seereax do it. I actually fought Seereax's male earthling once and he spammed the fuck out of it. I ended up losing the first fight so the second one came around and whenever he threw one, I'd dodge, open a split second window for me to attack him, and throw him instead. Ended up winning. It's how I punish ki stunners these days. I got off topic. Yeah, no one says anything about them doing it because to most people, these two are the Zen-Ohs of the Dragon Ball Community
It's just what I fail to understand, double standards so some say. I'm just generally curious to know why when a random person is to Ki cancel, use hmm hmm hmm or JC with no break (believe me i hate that more than anything), it's considered unacceptable, but I see popular youtubers do the same thing no one bats and eye lid you know? And don't get me wrong, i'm not calling anyone out, just a general question, i enjoy alot of people's content that's why i watch regardless of how good or bad they are. If people don't want to ki cancel then don't, if you can live without it then good for you. But i see no reason what so ever to why it is cheap, it just allows you to move faster than normal and makes fights more interesting imo
People say it's cheap because of the invincibility frames. And the fact that 99.9% of ki stunners spam it and use it to do infinite combo strings. Also, ki cancelling isn't *too much* of a problem. Say you're doing a combo and the person vanishes behind you so you throw a ki blast, that cancels the combo animation. Ki stunning is different all together. But the only problem I really have with ki cancelling is it essentially makes any combo un-punishable
There are characters like android 18 and and Videl who get stuck in animations so often, sometimes ki cancelling is the only way to fight someone who either waits for you to get stuck in animations to attack, or block dashes. But if you're ki cancelling with gogeta or hit then I can't give you props. That's just sad.
Ki stuns are fair but ki cancels are aids but to even compete nowadays i have to use it. With characters like hit when his backhit is slow asf and it takes alot of time for his combo to refresh then i think its fine to use it. But i just wish they would get rid of the super annoying thing where you hold block while behind someone and they ki cancel and it acts like you were infront of them
Do you accept apprentices? I own xenoverse 2 and I would love a mentor in an honorable way to fight in pvp matchs. I havent played much pvp honestly and its also being hard to use snap vanishes correctly in my opinion but im hoping I could find a good mentor to show me the way to become a good pvper. I only have it on pc though, if your an console user ill just have to manage on my own I guess.
I like ki blast Cancels because if you don’t use them in stun your opponent your opponent just gonna Dash behind you and attack you for me personally it helps because I get to play aggressive and not worry about the opponent dodging and then hitting me
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Steedoj nice gameplay I really enjoy ur videos
I fought a guy earlier who used the trunks unvanishable and when i beat him anyway he called me trash 😒
Ki blasts should use a half bar of stamina. That way by forcing you to use stamina they use some too. Also a full bar of ki
Steedoj I mean it depends how you use it because some back hits are so fast you can't escape
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Aura slide is fair and balanced. *Now we wait for the hate comments so I can say get bamboozled* my life isn't very exciting
Saiyan Prodigy it is balanced though
Madara 1096 exactly
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I use these Ki stuns so little... and that’s ONLY when the person I’m fighting is the one that initiates with ki cancelling. It really shouldn’t be a thing considering that certain things SHOULD be punishable. It isn’t right for you to get out of your own mistakes with a ki cancel.
0:14-0:29 Dodoria launcher be like
Shadow Williams I used this against someone twice in one fight and he told me I only won because I ki spammed.....🧐
lol rip
Jordyn Porter since when did ki spam take 3 bars of ki
My point exactly bro
Class D Personnel LOL right ? Jordyn Porter if you meet him again tell him to uninstall his game 😂
you damn right, this kind of player are trash who cant reach you without ki blasts. Dude u play amazingly fair
Did vegeta break his Circle button?
Nep Neps Neptune Cell broke it for him
Nep Neps Neptune No, I think the Circle/B button killed itself because of them abusing the button. *R.I.P Circle/B button* *#StopTheKiBlastSpamming*
ki stuns are pretty *TIMID*
Ran into a 1 bar just a minute ago who kept ki stunning with hit
The Day Xenoverse 2 has a good community is the day I get a life
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Ki stunning and stamina breaks was something i never expected when I came from xeno1 and it makes me disappointed the way these people play. But steedoj u show them up good job
As someone who mains a Female Saiyan i get ki blast stun/cancel by almost everyone i face. I find it cheap and i refuse to use it
Me too I hate that some people abuse it so much that I can barely touch them
supersanluigi Same here. Fighting against one of if not the slowest race in the whole game, and they still have to Ki Blast Stun/Cancel. In my opinion, if you're so reliant on Ki Blast Stuns/Cancels that you have to use them against a Female Saiyan, you really need to either stop playing the game, or actually learn how to play it without training wheels.
Brandon Hawker I find it even more pathetic if you are playing a female saiyan and they are using theres and all they do is ki blast stun/cancel with a cheese build like wtf
Rai Smith Facing a Hit or Goku Blue user doing that is a nightmare experience
supersanluigi I main a male saiyan(never use cheap combos) and whenever I *destroy* ki stunners, they always call me out for being cheap. And I fucking refuse to ki stun someone
Lesson:Even in the anime,the ki blast spam never works. The enemy either dodges them or comes out of the smoke unharmed.
Skill at it's finest.
So
You think your good at Xenoverse because you spam ki blasts
MR KILLZzz 117 good at xv? Oh boy is that even actually possible?
Win in pvp as hercule to actually be able to say they good at the game?
stephen gaub not even that, Hercule has the most I frames in the entire game
stephen gaub my friend won ass appule does that count lol
D-Anbu Gaming hercule is better than appule so yeah that’s even better. Hercule counters ui goku
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And this is what makes your xenoverse 2 videos stand out. The editing is top notch.
0:17 just seeing that animation of Vegeta throwing ki blasts is the best
That beginning was like the best part, had me rewatch that part like 5 times XD
If Ki Blast Cancelling would cost some Ki to do, it'd be somewhat fair (at least, in my opinion) - that aside though, I prefer the other cancels (step, Guard, etc) over Ki Blast Cancels because any counter can wreck those Ki Blast Cancels if done well enough. Plus, if someone cancels too slowly, you can still punish it. However, in the hands of someone good... yeah, it's definitely a powerful tool.
Mad props to anyone that doesn't use them, including you, Steedoj. Actually trying to tone down my Ki Blast cancels as much as I can just to see how far I can push my limits, not to mention it teaches people to actually be more careful with attacking wildly.
Yeah these ki stuns and ki cancels really piss me off
On god.
These players prolly go to sleep dreaming about the circle/ B button
Hmm, I have a problem with key stunning, however key cancelling is something I don’t necessarily see as broken or unfair. If we’re comparing it to other fighting games it reminds me of option selects (buffering a special move so if a punishable block string is blocked, it will cancel into a safe special or in some cases a different string will come out but on hit the unsafe string will come out.) It’s definitely annoying, but Due to the fact every character can do it I find it acceptable. If we’re talking about xy’s with male saiyans/earthlings then I would agree. Also in a game like this, if you look at vegito blue or teen Gohan (characters that do a long string of punches) I feel like ki cancelling is fair game.
KHTC Jink I agree with you 💯%😁👌
Its Ki, not key
Yea i agree, especially if you are stamina broken then its very fair
I agree, i mean how am i even gonna get home If they cancel my key
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Getting better with your videos man, I love them, I seriously do.
Keep it up steedoj!
That Yay by the Specialbeam Canon was LEGENDARY 😂👍👌🌊
In Xenoverse 3 they need to make regular ki blasts not stun and just do damage or at least up the frames of the animation to where it's only +2 frames if they hit instead of the ridiculous amount of stun it gives while having so little end lag
In this video we can hear an imperfect steedoj that is looking for positivity and maturity in xenoverse 2, good luck with that.
I think ki cancels are fair when the opponent is stamina broken because if used in a good way, it’s good for combo links. but others may use it for spam combos (cough cough male Saiyans heavy attack)
On the note of launching ki blasts. I have actually noticed that I don't use Ki Cancels (not ki stuns) as much as I use to. But I still have the same win/loss rate as I use to, so I think I had actually gotten better at the game. My win/loss rate on most of my cacs: Male Saiyan is 62%, Female Saiyans is 43%, Male Earthlings is 78% ( way too easy to use), and the rest is just around 50%
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Ur right steedoj,Im mainly a ps4 player and still see that shit.It gets annoying,and the fact that the average Xenoverse player thinks thats a skill is a complete joke to me.It is.Ki stunners shouldnt even play xenoverse at all if they keep doing that shit over and over again.They need proper training and skill in Xenoverse 2.I learned how to play better by mainly learning from u,Steedoj.Ur one of the best Xenoverse players Ive seen.Top 5 actually.I hope we get to fight tho,that be great,thanks.
I think the only time ki cancelling online is fair is:
1. What you mentioned; On characters and CaC builds that are generally slower.
2. Used against obvious cheap/cheese builds.
and/or
3. only when extending a combo after a fair, successful stamina break.
I think what they should do is this , remove ki cancelling , make it so knock down combos enable most follow ups , but if vanished , you’re wide open , whereas knock always have much less follow ups , but can be cancelled into a back hit
While I don't like you personally, I still like your videos. So I'll support you there.
On one end ki stuns help fight against cheap players and ki cancels help by allowing you to move right after your combo misses or to do infinites
On the other hand ki stunning can be used to stun your character and make you waste your stamina and it’s annoying to deal with when the opponent absuses it. As for ki canceling again someone can abuse this mechanic as well
It’s hard to decide which one is good or bad my answer is it depends on the player who uses these mechanics
Totally agree
If it's a bad/horrible character or race ki blast cancels are understandable for the most part just dont spam it the whole match when you're already using a busted character
Another video I've been waiting for. Ty man
I think to fix some of the issues would be Perfect blocks can’t be done out of a dash, or, dashing doesn’t have I-frames. Ki canceling doesn’t give I-frames either, or just make it so there is a buffer between shooting a Ki blast and doing a basic attack.
Maybe have some races who are fast just can’t Ki cancel? I’m pretty casual at the PvP in this game so, I have issues when thinking of how to give improvements over to this game lmao.
That Vegeta Clip wasn't even enough to portray Ki stunning. That's how bad it is PEOPLE 😤
The only character who should be allowed to ki blast spam is Vegeta because he actually does it in the show lol
LMAO the vegeta edit good stuff
Tat intro is the reason I sub ur amazing keep up the good work
'll be the one to try and defend a tactic. in a fighting game like this cancels sometimes are necessary, so when you're stuck in a combo and using a cancel to stop doing a combo is fine, BUT! spamming it for the I-frames is unnecessary, and makes you look stupid in battle. I might be called out for being a scrub for using cancels or stuns tactfully, but in the end those can help when your not using an OP build in this games ranked.
Just a suggestion but can you do a Dokkan Boss battle type of video. The idea is that you play as one of the bosses. When ever you win you change into their next form.
Example: The Ultra Instinct event
-God Goku to Blue
-Blue to Base (Spirit Bomb needed)
-Base to UI (there’s no omen so just MUI)
Doesn’t matter which event you pick though
For characters with multi hit combos that leave you stuck and wide open ki cancel is needed. For opponents that run all match i see it as needed too.
So, you're saying, that I was one of the few races (female saiyan) who it was "more acceptable" to do a ki cancel, and I have barely even seen why it was useful until like a couple of weeks ago?
Damn, I'm feeling that I messed up by not learning how to ki cancel. I never thought you would be the one to give me that feeling.
Na man im totally with you 100% i hate that crap, i can deal with anything else even rage quits but that ki stun crap mad annoying
When I got notified for this video I already started to laugh😂😂😂
When people use it to get out of animations I don't mind but everything else I absolutely agree with. Have you seen that new cheese were people boost Dash and use the extra input to get behind you and as soon as they hit you they go in to power pole combo that you can't vanish or get out of even if you dodge it with a steppe vanish or step Dash that power pole combo just has enough range to trap you in another combo
Okay this is the only time you'll find me defending Ki stunning I think you should only use it to avoid back hits, back hits in this game are so inconsistent and it's literally a huge risk to try to perfect block it . Especially when you're trying to avoid characters /CAC with long range back & fast hits like your namekian, male saiyans Majins, and male earthling. Or your characters with super armor back hits like Gogeta, UI Goku, and Jiren
That guy and other ki cancel spammers need to know one word. *M O D E R A T I O N*
That opening speaks to my heart 💓
I can understand when players spam ki blast canceling. Like ki blast cancel to the left, ki blast cancel to the right every second, I've fought those types of players. But what other things can you use ki blasts for? Damage? the only function for ki blasts is to follow up combos, get out of long animations, and as well as ki blast canceling but not being it your only engage, cause that's just not fun.
Ya try to tell em, but they just don't get it.
Beautiful work as always. JAH-STIIIICE LIFEEEE
I only do Ki Stun when I see the other guy abusing the IF of back hits, plus Ki Canceling to get away from some combos animation. The problem is that people abuse those too much, and its hell of annoying.
Ki Cancelling is "fair" only in 2 situations: 1. To cancel out of a combo because you're not gonna stun the opponent since he's behind you (PAUSE) unless we're talking about Hit 2. To TRY and stop a timid player who is vanishing until time runs out. To use it before anything, giving it more priority than trying to land a clean punch is cheap.
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I think i said this in an earlier video about ki cancelling but the problem is what you can do after firing one. You shouldnt be alllwed to step after a ki blast.
In older games, the only thing you were allowed to do was attack and even back then it wasnt as busted
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Whenever people Ki stun I do the same back, but I usually get hate mail because I used to be a sweaty nerd and I just ruin their day, now I just chill tbh.
Kashami and I actually talked about this. We both agreed Ki cancelling is unfair because it's breaking the animation of the fighting mechanics programmed into the game, whereas ki blast stuns are fair because it's your fault if you get hit by them
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I always enjoy seeing folks use cast characters.
BEST INTRO EVER!!!
I fought this guy before, he's so annoying. I'm average at the game and I'm trying to have fun but Ki cancel is so stupid and pretty broken. Thank you for beating him.
That STOP punch killed me😂😂😂
I actually never play online except for raids and expert missions, so I don't have an opinion on that.
Hell, I don't even know how to ki cancel because my brain doesn't process the idea of pressing 'B' on my controller.
I think ki blast adds speed and a spectacular dimension to the fight, it forces both players To be even more reactiv and not just to give up and wait for the consequences of a bad move because ki blast cancel enables you to fix a mistake if you are fast enough
Yes that’s true but ki stunning is a whole other problem it is a messed up thing to do in a fight and gives you an unfair advantage you can’t counter at all
Cheap player: "Why won't you get stunned?!"
Steedoj: " Come on coward, does this ever work?"
*Bitch slap*
Ngl but I like your non commentary videos a lot more. Love your vids tho
Everyone does
I'm just trying to satisfy commentary people too so it's a bit messy at times
Steedoj true that! Glad you didn't take this in the wrong way :)
Ki Cancelling is fair because really there isn't anything that gives you an advantage besides being taken out of a combo thats too slow, besides it doesn't take skill, but Ki Stuns are bs because it stuns you for a whole second and your wide open to be put in any combo, but Ki Cancels idrc
How many of you guys do stamina breaks where you do the heavy hit early and then the AI flies into it?
It's so satisfying to do all the time
0:29 Lmao Steedoj's like "get yo bitch ass outta here" 😂
btw Steedoj, I think Ki cancels are okay if you don't spam them, use them sparingly or for combos but like a sweet combo not a ki cancel only combo.. or to close in at an opponent mid range..depends on the situation. Like I use it 1 to 3 times a match.. not like the entire time
@strikersquad0 if you think ki cancelling makes you good, just reevaluate your thought process
I've never had an issue with ki canceling. No one's ever used it against in a way where I thought it was unfair. I use it to extend combos and confuse or throw off my opponent personally. It's kinda like a jab in boxing or a faint. Keeps your opponent on their toes. So to me it's fair but I'm a rare kind of person who believes nothing is unfair bcus I should be able to get out of it or get around it, if I'm truly good at the game.
, I completely agree for the most part, I use ki for stuns sometimes, but I try not too
Well, I kinda swing both ways when it comes to ki stun. On one hand, I like it because it's pretty handy for punishing TIMID/overly defensive players, but on the other hand, it's really not all that fun to fight some one who refuses to attack unless you're ki stunned.
In other news, sheesh, I think the real reason people keep using these cheap tactics is because everyone's so excessively hostile that they just want everyone else to suffer.
*OF COURSE*
Also do you have a bigger problem with ki stunning or ki canceling?
I honestly use Ki Canceling on my Namekian since he is the slowest out of my Cacs, and only use it for slow characters ONLY to recover I don't ki stun someone constantly to hit them, if someone does constantly ki stun me then I'll do it back to them.
I agree, ki stuns are stupidly powerful if you don’t know how to handle spammers correctly.
Lol yo that begining with cell and vegeta is so real man
0:14 all I hear are ORAs in my mind
Ki canceling is like slide canceling so many players use it but some just Spam it and don't know what to do
At the end of the day, that..All of that fights pissed me off, but MUI Goku v Vegito blue was the worst..He waited 4 u....Like uhhhhh people man
Love your vids they're amazing
This is my opinions that thinking there is no an exactly way to play the game. I am one of the fans on this game.I think spamming ki blast is not very bad because it depends on how you use it well or not. You can also think that ki blast is an aid for players who are not very good at footwork. Actually, I think it's not cheat although I used to use it before but at the same time, I know how to defeat this kind of tactic. Facing the ki blast tactic players can also train your reaction ability. I know that ki blast will help you easier to catch others and make you can't be caught easier.However, It's also a good practice and challenge for you to know how to defeat it and avoid the ki stun.
Finally, I know that there are too many cheat in the game but it is just a game. I know that's why people don't like xenoverse 2. In fact I don't like cheat too but i still playing the game.It's because i have an aim to become the strongest player in the game. Therefore, I am trying to defeat all the players including spammers, cheat-players and players who play seriously.
I know that many people think spammers and cheat-players are so annoying but it's just a game and you are able to defeat them.
There is one thing that i agree with Steedoj, Spamming and cheating will not improve your skill because you're only stop at the point that using the same moves for too many time.
*I don't understand that why people(some of players) always say that you are cheating. But actually they are just don't believe that they lost .*
There is a news for you guys also. It's the networking problem will be deal with. It's meaning that Xenoverse 2 will not have too many lag (Distance area problem) again!
Thanks you guys watching this comment! And please discuss it politely!!!!!
I can somewhat understand canceling. Naive people who think they have an opening, really don’t. However it’s really annoying when people spam it the whole time and gets really tedious. Not to mention when you finally land a “hit” the lags says fuck you and they still dash away and kick you in your throat. Ki stunning is very stupid. I understand ki blasting to reset a combo when stamina broken or knocking someone down but just waiting to land a blast and finally engage is really stupid. With that being said, I guess the stun time compensated for the lack of damage or any other utilization.
Welp that’s my view on stunning and canceling
Ki stunning and relying on that to hit people, nah I dislike that from a player.
Ki canceling out of animation / after a person has vanished to reposition / reset, I honestly don't mind it.
Personally I see nothing wrong with Ki cancelling, Negoy does it (not spamming it ofc), for one and he's a really talented player, i learnt alot from him. But the thing that confused me the most, is that if a random person does it it's not fair / unacceptable, but if a good player + RUclipsr is to do it no one bats an eyelid, correct me if I've got the wrong idea, but that's the kind of stuff I've noticed.
Bladesofmight You're actually right. Both Rhymestyle and Seereax do it. I actually fought Seereax's male earthling once and he spammed the fuck out of it. I ended up losing the first fight so the second one came around and whenever he threw one, I'd dodge, open a split second window for me to attack him, and throw him instead. Ended up winning. It's how I punish ki stunners these days. I got off topic. Yeah, no one says anything about them doing it because to most people, these two are the Zen-Ohs of the Dragon Ball Community
It's just what I fail to understand, double standards so some say. I'm just generally curious to know why when a random person is to Ki cancel, use hmm hmm hmm or JC with no break (believe me i hate that more than anything), it's considered unacceptable, but I see popular youtubers do the same thing no one bats and eye lid you know? And don't get me wrong, i'm not calling anyone out, just a general question, i enjoy alot of people's content that's why i watch regardless of how good or bad they are.
If people don't want to ki cancel then don't, if you can live without it then good for you. But i see no reason what so ever to why it is cheap, it just allows you to move faster than normal and makes fights more interesting imo
People say it's cheap because of the invincibility frames. And the fact that 99.9% of ki stunners spam it and use it to do infinite combo strings. Also, ki cancelling isn't *too much* of a problem. Say you're doing a combo and the person vanishes behind you so you throw a ki blast, that cancels the combo animation. Ki stunning is different all together. But the only problem I really have with ki cancelling is it essentially makes any combo un-punishable
There are characters like android 18 and and Videl who get stuck in animations so often, sometimes ki cancelling is the only way to fight someone who either waits for you to get stuck in animations to attack, or block dashes. But if you're ki cancelling with gogeta or hit then I can't give you props. That's just sad.
Some even do it when they aren't even framelocked
As a Vegito main, watching this dude use him was painful
*dude u hit from so far*
Ki stuns are fair but ki cancels are aids but to even compete nowadays i have to use it. With characters like hit when his backhit is slow asf and it takes alot of time for his combo to refresh then i think its fine to use it. But i just wish they would get rid of the super annoying thing where you hold block while behind someone and they ki cancel and it acts like you were infront of them
I'm more concerned with how after all this time, UI Goku STILL has the defensive capabilities of a torn condom.
Do you accept apprentices? I own xenoverse 2 and I would love a mentor in an honorable way to fight in pvp matchs. I havent played much pvp honestly and its also being hard to use snap vanishes correctly in my opinion but im hoping I could find a good mentor to show me the way to become a good pvper.
I only have it on pc though, if your an console user ill just have to manage on my own I guess.
Great vid ounce again
Shooting ki blasts should be reserved for data input and ui goku. And knock backs. I love topping off a knock back with ki balls
0:16 that's basically Vegeta in Fighterz
0:18 that killed me XD
I like ki blast Cancels because if you don’t use them in stun your opponent your opponent just gonna Dash behind you and attack you for me personally it helps because I get to play aggressive and not worry about the opponent dodging and then hitting me
That intro tripped me out