*@Fans Over The World... no contract was sent to him with any fair value and why didn't AJ send a contract to Wilder when he asked for the 50 million, and then when AJ found out the 50 million was good, he turned it down smh*
cooljc26 looool you’re so mis informed. Wilder and finkel literally lied to all of his fanboys saying they agreed to the contract without every signing it
Aaron , I’ve been watching boxing before you were born. I agree, the first fights with Castillo and Maidana, were close but like a true champion, he fought them again and clearing won. You don’t have over 26 championship fights, fighting cans. You’re clearly a casual
Top rank kept manny away from Floyd and took advantage of the hype. If he loses to Floyd in 2010 the hype dies. A simple yes to a blood test woulda ended this beef in 2010, and we wouldn’t have had to wait till 2015 for what was always going to be a inevitable outcome. Don’t matter when it happened Floyd was going to take advantage of the flaws of manny bob Arum knew this so he kept it in house for as long as he could
How did floyd male pacquiao wait??? Everyone seems to forget pacquiao decided to decline drug testing for the fight and then Floyd had to wait till pacquiao was ready to take a piss for testing.... Stephen A. Should know better ...
@Guiltysimpson And why would he feel that at that time that Floyd could just dictate terms? He had fought almost the same amount of fights and he was required to take more testing than he previously would have.
Floyd was low balling wanting Pac to take $40 million when the fight was worth a lot lot more. When it happened Floyd turned out to be the one taking a suspect ampunt of IV. Go figure lol
Jean Gauthier pacquiao agreed in2012????? By calling floyd and saying 50 50 or no fight and hanging up????? Floyd will be damn to have given him 50 50 after him floyd building such a fan base by fighting monsters
Steven A is incorrect! Mayweather had nothing to do with that! Actually seasoning a match is nothing new ... truth of the matter ....Arum was the nail in that Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight
1879gym thank you!!! Bob arum kept it in house. If manny loses to Floyd in 2010 the hype would have died and that link to Mayweather woulda ended. That link to Floyd made ppl tune in more for manny fights.
NegronJL1 Re-evaluate this clip again, then reread my words as they pertain towards Steven A’s comments... Respectfully I standby my comments because there are factual... i know those quotes you’ve reprinted but they are taken out of the context (and context is everything) of this discussion... there’re pointless
we blame tiger labron james mayweather and what do all these people have in common they set blueprints for others to follow and put money in their pockets and even darrell revis with how some his contacts where on year at a high rate
Yo them ufc fightersbonly make like 90 grand a fight bro! Boxers be getting millions! Its levels bro! Only connor mcgregor n a few hand selectedbfighters make big bucks!
@@vellosmoov6849 self is aware of degrees in which u call levels my guy them Boxers don't be owning their brand for their Brand be under a Trust of their promoters just think if it wasn't they could make a fight happen without them deciding who to fight next
I agree. Mayweather the best defensive fighter of his era but he did damage boxing I've always said it. Boxing went from fighting for pride and at the time to fighting for money when times right. Great fighter but can't say I'm not glad he retired.
24bigcoop Not yet but definitely on their way and I would say AJ is equally on Pacquiao level now because like Pacquiao he has a whole country behind him and about to make his mark on the US..He’s bigger, better, and more marketable then Pacquiao...If Wilder keep getting knockouts like Saturday he will become a bigger name then Mayweather in 1 year or less if he beat Ortiz & Fury in that time frame💯
Pacquiao is big in the Philippines and America. AJ isn't as big in America yet. It's going take longer than a year for Wilder to be bigger than Mayweather. If one loses than the fight will still be big but it's better when they fight with undefeated.
24bigcoop I’m assuming both stay undefeated they should both will be as popular as May and Pac by this time next year...AJ about to fight in a sold out MSG and he’s probably the easiest sell in boxing if he wins I mean he’s a black man with a British accent and he can fight just look at the actor Idris Elba he’s just as popular in the States as he is in the UK and if Wilder knocks out Ortiz and Fury all of America will believe in him like Ali because Fury is a masterful boxer and toyed with Klitschko...A lot of things have to go right and Dillian Whyte and Fury are the wild cards that can derail all the stuff I stated..If Fury don’t get knocked out he can outbox Wilder and AJ and Dillian Whyte is a bad style matchup for Wilder and he getting better each fight..It’s a reason the WBC let Breazeale be the mandatory instead of Whyte who deserved it way more
Does Stephen A not remember Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler? That fight took years. Leonard even had a big press conference he invites Hagler to...then retired. Retired without fighting him. Wasn’t until years later that the fight happened. He toyed with him and made him wait. But you know...Stephan A doesn’t know shit about boxing.
*But Mayweather didn't do that, that was done only because Pac didn't want to take the random blood and urine test in 2009-10, so that's why the fight was delayed and at the end Pac still had to agree and take the random blood and urine test. So Mayweather didn't plan that nor do it purposely, it just fell in his lap sorta speak!!!*
I'll say it again. What RAY LEONARD did between 79 and 81 where he fought YOUNG future hall of famers in there 20s. Benitez and Duran and then the Hitman. Okay I get it 50 and 0. But to me that doesn't top what RAY did. Money wouldn't do that for ANY amount of money
The difference is Mayweather and pacman were multiple division champions. They were on a collision course once they were in the same division. So they could afford the wait these guys now days .. aren't on the level of those two to even afford the wait. Maybe Errol vs Crawford, and I could see Wilder vs Joshua only because they are at the top division in heavyweight.
But no one’s happy for waiting too long till the opponents are past their prime or you watch them beat each other up too much then you take on the fight. That’s why Floyd is called a bitch
Fam floyd was gettin bread lets not fool ourselves ... the difference is he did it right ... he was out getting bread without Pacquiao . Let me ask you ... what the fuck was the point of the fight ? If Floyd doesnt see it as a good fight ... he said it since day one ... then the fight comes and it was trash . And then what ? He was fighting n getting bread and minding his own business lol
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I’m sorry....his hairline distracted me. It start literally at the TOP of his head. I haven’t seen anything like this since Sesame Street. Ernie & Bert.
We suffer from short term memory loss.
Wilder chased Joshua for a year nonstop..
“Chased” also known as running his mouth but not signing no contract that was sent to him
Wilder says he accepted a contract but never signed it
*@Fans Over The World... no contract was sent to him with any fair value and why didn't AJ send a contract to Wilder when he asked for the 50 million, and then when AJ found out the 50 million was good, he turned it down smh*
*@Mike.... stop lying*
cooljc26 looool you’re so mis informed. Wilder and finkel literally lied to all of his fanboys saying they agreed to the contract without every signing it
Mayweather perfected it and made it famous, but that blueprint has been around as long as man has drawn breath.
Fact.
Aaron , clearly you haven’t been watching boxing long!
Aaron I disagree but if I was a casual I would agree
Aaron , I’ve been watching boxing before you were born. I agree, the first fights with Castillo and Maidana, were close but like a true champion, he fought them again and clearing won.
You don’t have over 26 championship fights, fighting cans. You’re clearly a casual
Aaron 26 world champions are tomato cans? That’s the most all time.
It really bothers me when people like Stephen A Smith talk with so much conviction like he knows what he is talking about.
This is ONE time I agree with SAS & have become much more interested in the UFC.
Top rank kept manny away from Floyd and took advantage of the hype. If he loses to Floyd in 2010 the hype dies. A simple yes to a blood test woulda ended this beef in 2010, and we wouldn’t have had to wait till 2015 for what was always going to be a inevitable outcome. Don’t matter when it happened Floyd was going to take advantage of the flaws of manny bob Arum knew this so he kept it in house for as long as he could
How did floyd male pacquiao wait??? Everyone seems to forget pacquiao decided to decline drug testing for the fight and then Floyd had to wait till pacquiao was ready to take a piss for testing.... Stephen A. Should know better ...
BS Pac agreed in 2012 and the fight was in 2015. So Floyd blocked it for 3 years.
So why didn't Floyd require this persistent testing with any other opponents? Pacquiao never tested positive before the Floyd fight.
@Guiltysimpson And why would he feel that at that time that Floyd could just dictate terms? He had fought almost the same amount of fights and he was required to take more testing than he previously would have.
Floyd was low balling wanting Pac to take $40 million when the fight was worth a lot lot more.
When it happened Floyd turned out to be the one taking a suspect ampunt of IV. Go figure lol
Jean Gauthier pacquiao agreed in2012????? By calling floyd and saying 50 50 or no fight and hanging up????? Floyd will be damn to have given him 50 50 after him floyd building such a fan base by fighting monsters
Joshua vs Wilder will be made when the Americans get behind Wilder. It’s took him this long to get a small fan base but it’s growing.
Steven A is incorrect! Mayweather had nothing to do with that! Actually seasoning a match is nothing new ... truth of the matter ....Arum was the nail in that Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight
1879gym thank you!!! Bob arum kept it in house. If manny loses to Floyd in 2010 the hype would have died and that link to Mayweather woulda ended. That link to Floyd made ppl tune in more for manny fights.
ajp135212
Yup agreed.. too many of these boxing fans allow their emotions to rule them
1879gym strongly disagree with you!
“WE ARE GOING TO LET THAT FIGHT BUBBLE UP MORE,” Mayweather talking about Crawford/Spence Jr a year ago.
NegronJL1
Re-evaluate this clip again, then reread my words as they pertain towards Steven A’s comments... Respectfully I standby my comments because there are factual... i know those quotes you’ve reprinted but they are taken out of the context (and context is everything) of this discussion... there’re pointless
1879gym no sir, heard SAS and read your comment the first time. 1879gym= #fictionandspin
Why does Floyd constantly get credited for things thats been around in boxing before he was famous?
“ 24 Access” 😂 😂
MFs is tired of waiting
we blame tiger labron james mayweather and what do all these people have in common they set blueprints for others to follow and put money in their pockets and even darrell revis with how some his contacts where on year at a high rate
Boxing has always been a business first.
All this Boxers make everyone wait, except Canelo 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
javi Dallas Canelo is my p4p#1 but he made GGG wait. The truth is the truth
He made him wait that he fought him two times and maybe a 3rd this September, the truth is the truth
Public should come together and say if the fight doesnt happen this year we are not going to pay but that will never happen
Stephan A don’t know anything about boxing lol
He just talking to his fans that don’t know about boxing either
Stephen A spit Jewels on this one UFC has gained where boxing declined
Yo them ufc fightersbonly make like 90 grand a fight bro! Boxers be getting millions! Its levels bro! Only connor mcgregor n a few hand selectedbfighters make big bucks!
@@vellosmoov6849 self is aware of degrees in which u call levels my guy them Boxers don't be owning their brand for their Brand be under a Trust of their promoters just think if it wasn't they could make a fight happen without them deciding who to fight next
I agree. Mayweather the best defensive fighter of his era but he did damage boxing I've always said it. Boxing went from fighting for pride and at the time to fighting for money when times right. Great fighter but can't say I'm not glad he retired.
Sugar Ray its been a Part of Boxing ever since
They better not wait too long. It's the heavyweight. One knockout can ruin it!
24bigcoop Pacquiao got put to sleep and him and Mayweather still was the highest grossing money fight ever so that’s not true
@@P100-n7r yeah but Wilder and AJ are not nearly as big as Pacman and Mayweather.
24bigcoop Not yet but definitely on their way and I would say AJ is equally on Pacquiao level now because like Pacquiao he has a whole country behind him and about to make his mark on the US..He’s bigger, better, and more marketable then Pacquiao...If Wilder keep getting knockouts like Saturday he will become a bigger name then Mayweather in 1 year or less if he beat Ortiz & Fury in that time frame💯
Pacquiao is big in the Philippines and America. AJ isn't as big in America yet. It's going take longer than a year for Wilder to be bigger than Mayweather. If one loses than the fight will still be big but it's better when they fight with undefeated.
24bigcoop I’m assuming both stay undefeated they should both will be as popular as May and Pac by this time next year...AJ about to fight in a sold out MSG and he’s probably the easiest sell in boxing if he wins I mean he’s a black man with a British accent and he can fight just look at the actor Idris Elba he’s just as popular in the States as he is in the UK and if Wilder knocks out Ortiz and Fury all of America will believe in him like Ali because Fury is a masterful boxer and toyed with Klitschko...A lot of things have to go right and Dillian Whyte and Fury are the wild cards that can derail all the stuff I stated..If Fury don’t get knocked out he can outbox Wilder and AJ and Dillian Whyte is a bad style matchup for Wilder and he getting better each fight..It’s a reason the WBC let Breazeale be the mandatory instead of Whyte who deserved it way more
But everybody not Maywether
Does Stephen A not remember Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler? That fight took years. Leonard even had a big press conference he invites Hagler to...then retired. Retired without fighting him. Wasn’t until years later that the fight happened. He toyed with him and made him wait.
But you know...Stephan A doesn’t know shit about boxing.
stephen schneider I don’t know what that means.
*But Mayweather didn't do that, that was done only because Pac didn't want to take the random blood and urine test in 2009-10, so that's why the fight was delayed and at the end Pac still had to agree and take the random blood and urine test. So Mayweather didn't plan that nor do it purposely, it just fell in his lap sorta speak!!!*
I'll say it again. What RAY LEONARD did between 79 and 81 where he fought YOUNG future hall of famers in there 20s. Benitez and Duran and then the Hitman. Okay I get it 50 and 0. But to me that doesn't top what RAY did. Money wouldn't do that for ANY amount of money
Well it didnt work out for jermell and hurd
joshua is scared of wilder
The difference is Mayweather and pacman were multiple division champions. They were on a collision course once they were in the same division. So they could afford the wait these guys now days .. aren't on the level of those two to even afford the wait. Maybe Errol vs Crawford, and I could see Wilder vs Joshua only because they are at the top division in heavyweight.
Smith letting the cat out of the bag
Two different sports boxing would be extinct
100 % correct
But no one’s happy for waiting too long till the opponents are past their prime or you watch them beat each other up too much then you take on the fight. That’s why Floyd is called a bitch
Triple G vs Canelo got made right on time wtf Is Smith talking about.
That's 1 fight. But Ggg didn't want Ward
We don't want that Ask the ufc fighters if they like that ????😳😳😳
Wilder career was managed wrong. He's just have meaning full fights. How long did it take for Joshua to take on Mr. K? Wilder never callout Mr. K.
Floyd & Al Haymon borrowed & improved blueprint from Muhammad Ali
I blame us as fans. If we do t get the fights we want we need to not watch the bullshit fights
Stephen A. hairline is making him wait...it packed up and left
Go thurman
No he didn’t ! Promoters bin doin it for yearssssssssssss !
it's dumb to wait to box cuz ain't nobody finna wait these days that's why UFC is more popular than boxing🥊.
Fam floyd was gettin bread lets not fool ourselves ... the difference is he did it right ... he was out getting bread without Pacquiao . Let me ask you ... what the fuck was the point of the fight ? If Floyd doesnt see it as a good fight ... he said it since day one ... then the fight comes and it was trash . And then what ? He was fighting n getting bread and minding his own business lol
More like “if it quacks like a duck” blueprint.
wait you wait aka im only gonna fight you when you get old
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I’m sorry....his hairline distracted me. It start literally at the TOP of his head. I haven’t seen anything like this since Sesame Street. Ernie & Bert.
Rap Life Well obviously I don’t know the rules of the gay community like you. Please tell me more....
Rap Life I guess only gay men recognize gay men? Because I don’t think about gay men in that way....
Rap Life You know all the suspect rules do you? Only a gay man would know....
No o e want that