Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/Qyrjgf-_Vdk/видео.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman Guest bio: Sam Harris is an author, podcaster, and philosopher.
Lex says at one point that Trump is joking. Lex is not a stupid man, but I think his brain has been broken by Trump, not Sam's. How could you possibly think he's joking about the election being stolen. What has Lex talked himself into and why? Has he become part of the problem?
Lex likes the money. This 'blindness to Trumps obvious issues' is something that's pretty spread amongst the right wing grift for cash sphere... lotsa ppl like to make easy money off an easy to appease audience ...
Could not agree more. I respect the hell out of Lex and his passion for pursuing intellectual honesty, truth and his sense of compassion in society. But he has drank the Trump Kool Aid, and on multiple occasions I see his perfectly reasoned mind defend Trump in such ridiculous ways.
@mikescott4195 I'm sure that's an aspect in some way but wildly popular "apolitical" and terminably diplomatic and even agreeable people in the public sphere attract a lot of attention from sociopathic manipulators with insane amounts of resources and all the time in the world to get in their ear in some form or another. He probably counts Elon Musk as a personal friend and people like Jordan Peterson aren't too far away. Idk what they've said to him and the methods probably differ a bit but it's almost certain that he has the same "friends" curating his contrarian brain as Rogan.
Lex: Don't you think you're wrong about Trump? Sam: No, here's why (5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation) Lex:Yes, but what do you think about The "Sam Harris' brain is broken" meme? Sam: 5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation Lex: OK, but don't you think you should have more empathy and say good things about Trump? Sam: No, here's why (5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation) Lex: Yeah but don't you think Trump saying before the election that it was rigged if he lost was just comedy.... What a bonkers interview. He asks Sam questions which Sam gives calm, reasoned answers to, and Lex just asks him another version of the same question hoping that this time Sam will admit he was wrong about Trump, or went too far and that Trump really did break his brain. Over and over. Each time Sam lays out his thinking quite clearly. Lex doesn't respond to the content of the response, just continues with the "are you suuurrrreee you don't have TDS" line of questioning. I've never really understood the appeal of Lex.
Watch Scott Adams debate Sam about Trump. Could Sam think of a single good thing Trump did? Abraham accords? Calming things down with North Korea? Anything?
"TDS" is rarely used as a counter argument. Conservatives have spent almost a decade attempting to convince liberals that Reality exists. After years of dealing with this absurdity, "TDS" was invented as a shorthand to describe a person who has an illogical, delusional, or unfounded opinion of Trump. It's impossible to discuss the issues with someone who won't acknowledge fundamental reality.
I agree in most cases, but TDS is definitely real, some people just cant keep their emotions in check and are just obsessed with straw manning trump. I'm no trumpie but MSNBC has TDS running rampant among their employees, just like how newsmax has trump D riding syndrome.
It's the classic "we can't argue your merits so we will attack your proxy aspects as a being". So classic of anyone on the Trump coolaid. Trump has not once in his life actually argued politics and betterment of the country. All he knows is how to attack another person and turn the stage into some mock version of a Slim Shady rap battle in front of room temp IQ crowds who will follow spectacle and confidence over factuality and reason.
You want facts? Sam Harris actually argued that he had no problem keeping information about the Hunter Biden laptop completely hidden from the American voter because it would hurt Biden, and according to Harris he would be saving democracy in doing that. OMG, you want to talk about morbid Narcissism? It's Sam Harris.
@@thevaccinator666trump university for example? Maybe the fact he overvalues his assets when trying to obtain loans and then undervalues them for the purposes of paying less taxes? Trying to get fake elector slates to be counted in Georgia and 7 other states instead of the legitimate ones for biden? I could go on
@@thevaccinator666I hate to be an asshole or to seem like I’m dodging the question but how can you not perceive him as a conman? It drips off of him. It is so obvious that it always startles me when someone doesn’t see it. That sounds pretentious and unhelpful I’m sure but that’s my authentic reaction. The way he speaks is one thing to consider. He doesn’t speak like an intelligent, well-read, well-informed, competent person. He speaks like someone who is trying to create a vibe of aggrandizement and adoration around himself. He obsesses over crowd sizes. He makes up demeaning nicknames for his political opponents like a playground bully would. He says bizarre and meaningless things like “It’s amazing. It’s going to be amazing. It’s going to be very, very amazing” and “Nobody has done more for women (or insert any group here) than me” and “Everyone says I’m the best. They say to me ‘Trump you’re the best’”. This is all gibberish and a massive red flag that the person saying it is trying to con you and create a false air of competence about themselves. This is how someone speaks who has no substance whatsoever and therefore must bluster and boast their way to success. Not to mention Trump is a liar of mythological proportions who will even lie when it’s completely pointless and does nothing to help him and in fact just contradicts what he just said 5 minutes ago. He’s also a convicted felon and was trailing dozens upon dozens of lawsuits before he ever even ran for President.
@@thevaccinator666Trump University, his charitable foundation that he defrauded, $60 bibles, $100k watches that "may not be as shown" in ads... You need me to keep going..?
@thevaccinator666 like Sam explained, Trump doesn’t have any true ideological beliefs besides making himself more powerful and famous. He convinced huge swath of people he has spent his whole life avoiding that he truly cares about them. He sold millions on the idea that he would make major changes to the structure of buerocracy in Washington and “drain the swamp” and then just brought in a bunch of grifters and relatives to fill positions that they had no qualifications for. He told us he was going to make America great again, and literally his only major policy was a massive tax cut for the rich. He did all this, was a failure of a president, and is somehow convincing his base again that he was and will be amazing for the country. This is not to mention his entire career of conning people with cheap products meant to look fancy, and those products/companies going bankrupt.
In the movie “Excalibur” from around 1980, King Arthur asks Merlin which principle is the most important. The answer: The truth. Humans better figure that out. The Joker is not a model for any system to survive.
@@AnthonyLeamanwe don't live in a movie but we can teach and learn from some movies...movies made by people who live in reality and some movie are a reflection of reality
And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages. William Shakespear
Respect to Sam for being one of the few Podcasters that I follow who had honest opinions on Trump and didn’t hold back for the sake of keeping an audience. I still like a lot of these guys that I’ve listen to for years, but many of them failed this test to me. Way too light handed.
Totally agree. I found David Feldman recently and he's comforting to me and shares your characteristics. However I'm in hospice and finally got to the stage where i need a big dose of humor with the truth. I like Sam and have learned a lot but sometimes -- more & more lately -- i also need comfort and laughs with the heavy topics like these. Sam is one of the most intelligent guys Ive come across & esp i appreciate his views on religion and atheism. 😊
Anyone who supported trump should get respect for not holding back and telling people they support him with the great chance they will get alienated from their family and friends.
@@AndrewQuiroz24 Lmao not really. I bet you don't think the same for people who supported Obama or Biden when their family and friends are conservative Republicans in some rural area. It all depends on where you're from or your background and you can still get some backlash from either side. Trump supporters aren't victims lol gtfo with that.
@@rob97dani dude if you say that you support trump as a minority everyone calls you white. What are you talking about? White elitists enable this narrative through colleges for blacks and browns to overwhelmly think a certain way and when we deviate we go against the tribalistic nature of our group. It's BS. I will GLADLY explain to you in person how white liberal elites are imposing these TOXIC messages on our youth.
Sam is the same person who advocated ending democracy so the elites can pick our leaders in secret. Not only that he's too biased to see that Trump wasn't dangerous compared to other presidents. For example: Trump is the first president since Carter who refused to drag America into a new war. Trump also did what Obama said he would do but never did, Trump set in motion America's withdrawal from Afghanistan. Just for comparison, Bush Jr dragged America into war with 2 countries and Obama expanded it to 7 countries. Millions died. Trump also refused to get involved in Russia and Ukraine, and Russia is threatening nuclear war if America gets involved any further, Biden doesn't care.
No. Don’t do this. I love Sam too, but it’s that same hero worship that corrupted so many like Sam. He is just a man speaking truth, and if it inspires more to do the same, then that’s great. But putting him on a pedestal for doing something fairly easy is ascending him to a higher type of power. And power corrupts.
@@longtallsally4493this much should not qualify someone for president. He is just saying things that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain. There is a whole other set of skills and knowledge that is rather more important for being president. That said, he'd still be a vastly better president than Trump since Trump has none of those other skills either, and at least Harris cares about the truth.
Trump didn’t start any new wars the first president in 50 years America to do that. Sorry. Reality. These people argue Trump was incompetent they mean he was incompetent at funding the money laundering death machine the military industrial complex that Democrats like Biden are extremely competent in doing. Missing moral compass! Lolz 😂 What a clown act these two are. America was at its best. All of these two in the video and your crying about nothing is you at your worst.
The truth lies somewhere in the middle, Trump isn't a deranged maniacal goofball demon as Harris makes him out to be. Lex is just pushing back on that and even confronted him about TDS, which Sam very clearly has developed a severe case of.
In the opener Lex Fridman says, "...even if the election was fairly executed." I really felt at that point, there was no reason to listen to this any further. Respect for Sam Harris - I think he is a solid analyst and a keeper of the facts.
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Exactly right, he starts by denying a fact that has been corroborated by over 60 court cases, tens of audits, independent reviewers, all carried and paid by the loosing party. So sad to see people unable or unwilling to accept reality just to please a man with so many flaws.
@@andrewedwards6946 we “ sane America’s “ are at a loss to understand “ It’s like a bad dream!! Even people with half a brain should be able to see how unfit Trump is to lead Americans as President!!…..OMG! To put so much power into a maniac’s hands . What will happen to us ?? I will be Afraid that we will be saying, “ Hail Trump! “ and our own families will turn us in if we don’t comply. You know this happens in other countries! If can happen here! !
Lex, in his blind struggle to find sympathy for even the most clear cut corrupt and morally bankrupt actors, comes across as someone with a mind so open his brain fell out.
@@AsifKhan-hf9zynot exactly. People don’t say “have an open brain”. Mind is the result or synthesis of the brains biology. Brain is the physical thing. At least that’s how Id think of it. It’s lose and fuzzy though because anything that is experienced as “the mind” is happening inside the brain so how are to concepts separated..
Apparently that is what pays the most money for podcasters this days... Carry the water for wealthy narcissistic shitheads and keep the bases of half-brained conservative troglodytes in a permanent state of hate and paranoia...
Yes incredulous lol. I guess the one thing that absolutely blows me out of the water shock is that a very sizable number of Americans could ever in a million years vote for this guy for anything much less President! I think djt has made me aware of things I would never be aware of is that we have people that would in a zillion years think this guy should be the President of the most powerful country in the entire history of the known world and have his reprobate (being kind) fingers on the nuclear button!!! Jeez Louise I need my brain rewired for real!!
@@jlump228 yeah, it is hard to say honestly, but that he seems to have the 'other sides' point down so clear, makes it seem like its his perspective, plus he kept going on about how he always respected Sam for his level headedness but that he was not being level headed about Trump.
@@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm the most incredulous part is that he got 10 million MORE votes in 2020. 10 million people in this country couldn't stand to pull the lever for him in 2016, but the following 4 years of nightmare won them over. What in the actual hell.
not this one. I listened mostly to all of it and it was just as elitist as the man he criticized only in a better form.Harris is not a populist . At least the border was more secured and his relationship to Russia was not any different in principle as Israel is to the Arabs. Why critique that? Trump did a great job with our adversaries in gaining respect. Sam says nothing about Biden.and yes the election was rigged . Do want a answer to that?
Sam threaded a needle, avoiding traps to do so. I try to be open minded. When my students have suggested obviously fictitious or distorted views of reality, I have usually just told them to look at the objectively verified data to find the truth. Far too many of my fellow Americans have either not learned, or have forgotten, what objective truth means and how to find it.
not at any stage during this part or any part of the podcast did he recognise the potential for his own biases or blind spots on every issue he has touched over the last 5 years (btw he has been wrong on numerous stances and that fact makes this all the more insane. his self admiration is 'trumped' only by donald himself)
Take it from someone who was a Sam Harris fanatic for 9 years and who never liked Trump pre 2016…..Sam has a massive blindspot regarding his assessment of Trump and Trump supporters and Trump defenders. He straw man’s the shit out of all of it. You can listen to the podcast he did in 2015 were the cracks in his brain slowly formed. I think it was with Paul Bloom but i may he wrong.
@@camcunningham9443 Not really. He literallly admitted that government is usually corrupt and that’s why people voted for trump because they wanted someone that wasn’t a career politician. That’s literally a fact. But we all know trump is a narcissist whether your e a fan of him or not. Sam’s view of trump is the fairest I’ve seen so far from someone that isn’t on his side lmao.
They don’t listen at all. They simply can’t get past the fact that someone doesn’t like their hero, Trump. It’s a shame. Same repetitive, boring strawman arguments and ad hominems in every comment section.
At the 22.28 mark, Harris mentions the movie Being There (1979), which is another late 20th century reference at a time when it was increasingly apparent that we were living in a media saturated society. I've made this reference often in my posts. Just to provide a bit of the backstory to this subtle comedy - a middle-aged man named "Chance" has extreme autism and has lived his entire life under the care of "The old man" who dies near the beginning of the movie. Chance had been the gardener of the old man's estate, but now that the old man was dead, Chance was to become homeless. However, as "chance" would have it, and without a care in the world, Chance simply dressed up in one of the old man's nicest formal suits, packed one suitcase and simply began strolling down the street. He is completely disengaged with the world around him and is incapable of fear when street thugs approach him, and he simply appears too important for them to dare do anything to him. Chance has an addiction to TV, and when he sees several of them in a store window, he completely zones out, especially when they display people as they walk by the store. This leads him to step out into the street, where he is gently bumped by a car, but not just any car. As "chance" would have it, it was a limo owned by one of the wealthiest families in the country. Out of fear that they might be sued by this very important person, they take him under their care, and assume his autism is just a part of his eccentric genius. Now that he is under their care, it isn't long before his serendipitous rise to the presidency. The central theme revolves around appearances and how people are easily fooled by them.
It's so bizarre to me that those of us who have a problem with Trump and his toxic behaviour are labelled with Trump Derangement Syndrome, when all measurable indicators of an unhealthy fixation on Trump are clearly and exclusively displayed by the individuals who support him. And the argument is such an easy call. For example: at one point, we all believed that sexism, racism, bullying, fraud, self absorption, pettiness, criminality, exploitation, combativeness, lying, name calling, bigotry, bragging, lack of accountability, cheating, nepotism, infidelity, disrespect, extortion, bad sportsmanship, deception, rash decisionmaking, intolerance, irresponsibility, hypocrisy, sore losing, immorality and lack of integriy were negative qualities in a person and anyone who exhibited more than one or two of them, let alone ALL of them, triggered red flags in all of us. The difference now though, is that while most of us still hold those same beliefs and values, there is a large swath of the population who woke up this morning feeling that those qualities are suddenly perfectly fine with us, to the point where we may even actively engage in some of them, ourselves. THAT is deranged
The wealthy family member says what is you name, his reply "I'm Chance The Gardner". Then he's being introduced to others as Mr. Chauncy Gardner. I was 15 yrs old when I saw the movie in 1979 at the theatre and even at that age found it hilarous. Classic Peter Sellers dry humour throughout.
@@Splexx Yes, he was being served a stiff alcoholic beverage as he was being asked his name and gagged on it, thus leading them to assume "chance the gardener" was "Chauncy Gardner."
Companies under Trump went into bankruptcy 5 times. How many lives did that alone wreck? In most Western Countries a guy like that wouldn't be allowed to do business anymore.
The beauty of America is that you can fail, pick yourself back up and try again. Many successful businesses were made by people who failed multiple times. You would like these middle Eastern countries where they practice what you suggest. If you fail, you are not allowed to do business again and can even go to jail due to debts until such debts are repaid.
You do recognize that most bankruptcies are simply reorganizations. Bankruptcies lawyers who specialize in this field get together to try to work out new terms. Whenever such things are publicized they always mention chapter 7, chapter 13 or whatever. I'm not sure which is which but only one represents a total ending of the business.
Exactly - although Sam can sometimes put his foot in his mouth, if you hear out the depth of his positions, they are always well-reasoned, articulate, and most often objectively correct. How so many people doesn't see Trump the same way Sam does will never cease to baffle me. The man is just so blatantly contemptible.
Lex's attempts to defend Trump are so ... pitiful. You can see on his face how anguished he is that his feeble rationalizations keep being dismantled by Harris.
@@GiuseppeSan "if you hear out the depth of his positions, they are always well-reasoned, articulate, and most often objectively correct. " - like this one here: ruclips.net/video/fBfLEsmPXdY/видео.html do you believe we all should see Trump as sam Harris?? and have a similar opinion?? whats your thought on the video I put here?
I guess his questions lead to Sam giving precise answers to topis the public migh want aswered but they're some of the lamest Ive ever heard come out of Lex's mouth.
Something has died in this country. It seems impossible to return to it but I believe there is a way. Traumas are healed through acknowledging the trauma, remembering the pre traumatic state, grieving it’s loss and recommitting oneself to life. We need to snap out the denying, start the grieving, and fall back in love with our beautiful roots of decency, democracy and love. For this we need a real leader who can harness these great energies and model the grieving process in a way we can collectively participate in the healing. Any loving souls out there - heal of your own wounds so you can lead the way collectively. There is no other way I don’t think.
No, really just no. No more healing and complaining, no more rights rights rights, no more "trauma". Just work. Honest work, not spreading asscheeks on OF. Honest work and raising families with proper values. No need for endless taxpayer-funded "healing". The taxpayer is tapped out.
Lex, you seem like a thoughtful person etc.. What are you doing here, exactly? Do you really need someone to tell you how dangerously insane trump is. Let alone Sam. WTF?
Been that way forever. I stopped listening mid way through 2016 because I couldn't stand the constant fawning over Trump. Otherwise, been a fan of Lex, but can't square falling for such an obvious danger to this country.
You probably need to take a step back and think about how if half the country likes Trump, it's very important that they hear conversations like this one, especially since it's a much richer point of view than the one-sided garbage people spew in the media.
@@cosmocalisse "Half the country" is not accurate at all. Only half of the Americans who are eligible to vote, vote. Of that half of the population, less than half voted for trump. He never won the popular vote. So, if every voting republican was 100% in love with trump, it would only be about 25% of the population. I would argue that half of the republican voters are not happy with trump and would rather have someone else conducting the same policies. That would mean about 12% of the country "likes" trump. Certainly not half. And that doesn't include people who are either ineligible to vote or too young to vote, only the eligible voting population. So technically, it would be
7 minutes in and all of this seems reasonable from both perspectives. Trump is definitely missing moral and psychological tools. I’ll assume based on the comments that I’m the only person who agrees with that assessment. Interesting.
It's just like saying the sky is blue dude. It's just sad to see how susceptible so many Americans were to this obvious and pathetically insecure con man. Sad! The movie Ideocracy was soooooo prophetic.
@scoobihu1090 okay, but they actually like him. They’re not saying he’s awful and that he’s going to destroy everything. They think he’s doing a wonderful job making america great. And plus it’s not “broken beyond repair” you can literally vote someone in you actually agree with rather than someone you simply think will destroy it all. Like if that’s what you think that’s just an objectively bad strategy.
That question Sam asked at the end there (even though it was about the Middle East) is really at the heart of the crises facing America now. What do we do when up to half of the populace is so misinformed and deranged and ideologically driven that they fundamentally have a different culture and vision of what America is and stands for? Since we do rely on norms to hold the nation together what happens when the norms disintegrate? What happens when democracy becomes the impediment to the "power at all costs" mentality on the right? Are civil war and secession inevitable? Yeah Trumps plan was never to eliminate the establishment, the military industrial complex, or the deep state. It was to co-opt them and bend them utterly to his will to do the bidding of his brand of elitism. Very much like what Putin has done in Russia.
"What do we do when up to half of the populace is so misinformed and deranged and ideologically..." -- Why don't you get out of your bubble and take a look at your half of the population and admit to their derangement? The current president is a pathological liar and people like you show your ignorance with the comment you made.
I think our political system of checks and balances could take care of trump and his ilk. If it doesn't then we will need to work on our constitution in order keep fascists from toppling our countries government. And we should not see major legislation change every four years because one party stacks the supreme court.
Sorry but having any plan other than "I get to be the center of attention" is giving him far too much credit. Trump has indeed never in his life strung together 3 consecutive sentences on the same topic or without invoking himself in a non sequitur..
Respecting Trump for disrupting the system is like thanking the drunk driver who almost killed your child in an accident for having caused more stringent laws on drunk driving.
I was a former Trump voter and can admit I got duped by mountains of propaganda. The thing is most of his voters are good people but the propaganda machine is too strong.
No, sorry, they are not good people. If they aren't racists, they are racist tolerant. If they aren't liars, they are liar tolerant. If they aren't cheaters, they are cheater tolerant. If they aren't corrupt, they are corruption tolerant. If they are not traitors, they are traitor tolerant. Lots of MAGAs like him just because he's nasty. Not good..
Good in what way? Good providers, mothers, fathers, Christians, citizens, patriots? Trump appealed to the parts of the tribal, reptilian brain that fears and hates the success of the others. As if other's gains were proportional to your losses (or perceived losses). I'm heartened by your self awareness but see no convincing evidence that the majority of true believers share your epiphany. Many of my family members fell for the outsider myth and now are reticent to speak about him at all. Now it's Biden bashing, trying to equate, with little success, the failures of the current administration with the unmitigated disasters of the previous. I don't believe the current political debate is an education opportunity for Republicans in general, I tell Trump apologists to vote their conscience and I will do the same.
Lex is just not good at talking politics and he doesn’t have a good grasp of American history. He should stick to science focused interviews. Saying trump would “shake up the elitist system” is laughable. What exactly about trump is not elitist? His daddy gave him millions of dollars, bought his way into an Ivy League school, never had a real job, was a draft dodger because daddy paid for a medical excuse. I will never comprehend why so many people think this guy is some kind of champion of the working class.
He said years ago he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and not lose his supporters. Fox came right out and admitted to helping trump fool them with stolen election lies.....and yet, they are ready for more. Sam is right to be concerned. Something is very wrong in the USA.
I believe Lex is good hearted, but his foundational experience has been with the Russian government, which skews his evaluation of the American system. He automatically assumes there are parallels which may or may not exist.
I know when MAGA people believe he will serve on their behave just because he eats KFC( on his private plane). How can people so blind and being fooled by a well know con man openly grifting them?
Cheerleading trump from people who know they shouldn’t be cheerleading for trump: That would be the Republicans in the U.S. Congress. All of them, AND their staff members.
Sam nailed it at the end with incentives. Incentive structures are EVERYTHING in a system involving humans and great power, and we've relied too long on norms that people would not abuse these systems with their power instead of providing a strong incentive structure to promote decisions that create a better society for all of us.
@@johnalden948 Over 304k Views and only 5k thumbs ups means he got a sh!tload of hidden thumbs downs because they don't agree with his BS. He needs to stick with aetheism and get off politics because peeps are calling out his BS.
@@johnalden948 In part because a lot of people watching are intent on their tribalism - they'd rather look first for division 'how does this comment point out the failures of my enemy' or 'how does it specifically agree with me' rather than looking at the problems from 30k feet. And, frankly, they're afraid to admit that what they've been taught their entire life 'capitalism is perfect' any hints that its not fall upon deaf ears.
« It says a lot about our society to have a man of that character gets to that level of leadership « that’s what I have been saying about the leaders in my country 🤒
I guess Lex knows his audience, despite protestations about avoiding any feedback whatsoever. At least now we know he's a dishonest broker. The idea he'd ever push back on purely rightwing culture war nonsense to the same extent he simps for Trump here is absolutely unthinkable. Not much of a fan of Sam Harris but he's certainly constructed good arguments here, whether you agree with them or not.
thank you, exactly Apotheosis of this simping is on the pod with Jeremy Suri, I think the title of the video is "jan 6 was a big deal". I was astounded at claims that Lex was making. This wasn't just "playing devils advocate" it's pure audience capture.
Exactly right. Unfortunately Lex got caught up in the Joe Rogan bro circlejerk. It's funny because lex and his accomplices complain about the mainstream media when they show bias for one side, and then proceed to repeat the exact same behavior. With all the bragging they do about how big Joe Rogan s audience is compared to CNN that they'd figure it out; they ARE the mainstream media now. The contrarianism and conspiracy theories are just the sugar that makes the medicine go down.
Freedom and liberty are a form of empathy. The right already donates far more to charity volintarily. While the left lives to use the goverments monopy on force to express their "empathy" and "aultism" .
The issue with the people who have supported Trump is that he is absolutely the wrong answer to many of the right questions they're wanting answers to....but many of his supporters are so desperate to get answers to those questions that there's nothing they won't tolerate, including existential risks to the breakdown of rule of law and basic democratic procedure, to get any answer to their questions. Additionally, there is a highly non-zero number of his supporters who are actually not equipped to assess the right answers to those questions and even less equipped to assess their own abilities or lack thereof to assess those answers.
Hum, you might answer some of my questions. I often wonder why those people voted against their own well-being as Trump’s and GOP’s policies are totally opposite of what will benefit those voters. I am just a curious and concerned Canadian.
@@freedomlife3623 That's been a puzzler in the US for the entire history of the country. Our own Civil War is a perfect embodiment of your question...one can hardly fathom what was going on in the mind of the typical VOLUNTEER infantryman in the southern army....poor, probably just a generation or two in his own family removed from indentured servitude, extremely unlikely to have owned slaves and in fact for the few agricultural products that he was able to harvest beyond his own subsistence needs actually competed against the products produced by the large plantations which were run by slave labor...and yet, the wealthy elites in the south were able to convince these poor, but easily agitated fools that the fight to protect slavery was their fight, getting hundreds of thousands of their poor, white neighbors to eagerly sign up to become cannon fodder, and sending tens of thousands of them to their deaths, to protect the lifestyle of the wealthy southern slaveowners. It's truly a puzzle but you see a lot of the same dynamics in today's GOP, with the use of moral panics and outrage motivating so many undereducated and ill-informed Americans to essentially cut taxes and regulation for the benefit of the most well off Americans. Truly, a puzzler.
@Freedom Life I hope you don't mind my interjection, but as humans have a tendency towards selfishness, a degree of which is associated with our base instincts for survival, I truly believe that politics can be boiled to its essence, which can best be described with the phrase "follow the money." In order for the elite to maintain (i.e., increase) their wealth and power, the propaganziation of the masses is essential. The objective is to keep them fighting amongst themselves, and it is largely accomplished via state sponsored media. Fox News and the MAGA movement are good examples. Hitler did the same with the German people in the 1930s - millions of people were convinced that he was doing right by them. That is largely where the Trump and Hitler comparisons end because, as Sam Harris stated, Trump has no ideology beyond serving the ego. Honestly, I believe Trump was/is probably a greater threat than Hitler when you consider his climate policies and access to nuclear weapons, if not his complete incompetence and ignorance. Still, their accomplishments were dependent on convincing millions of people to support policies that were detrimental to their self-interests. It is proof positive that anyone can be propagandized if they are repeatedly lied to long enough. These people are angry after experiencing 40+ years of increasing inequality and an unprecedented distribution of wealth from the working class to the elite. They want someone to blame, but they are barking up the wrong tree, so to speak, as the real enemy are the wealthy and powerful. Until they figure this out and direct their ire upward, nothing will change for the better. That is the $500 billion question: how do we effectively shield people from the constant barrage of misinformation that is perpetuated by the elite? However, I disagree with Lex and Sam about one thing - I think Trump has revealed just how strong our institutions actually are. Yes, there are definitely weaknesses that could be exploited by someone who has more wherwithal than Trump, but in the end, our democratic institutions withstood a coordinated assault by the most powerful network of people on the planet who exhausted all attempts to dismantle it. The same can be said regarding Hitler and the Nazis. In the end, humans tend to follow their better angels.
@@nlabanokgood points...but remember those weren't highly educated men and they were told the north wanted to destroy them..I doubt they signed up to defend slavery because in today's dollars a single slave would cost a quarter million bucks...only the richest could buy slaves
Worship of Trump , has clearly become a cult, after seeing the people clamoring to put his half eaten pizza in their mouth, I mean , it's clearly a cult .
I love how Lex is like, "Oh Sam you're my hero, please explain Trump derangement syndrome" and Sam is like "Sure, the derangement is how can you support the most morally corrupt person I can think of" LOLOLOLOLOL. Lex is proof number 1 that intelligent people can not be told the truth once they have an idea in their head
Yes, but I'd add: Not just 'an idea in their head,' but subscribers to their podcast, money in their pockets, millionaires & billionaires in their contacts, etc. Lex seems willfully obtuse when it suites his socio-economic ladder-climbing.
@@billyb4790OMG, really? He's been found guilty of rape in court, for which he shows no remorse but rather continues to verbally abuse the victim. He was found guilty of fraud for using money from a "Build the Wall" non-profit entity for his personal expenses. He referred to fallen American soldiers as SUCKERS. He buried his wife at his golf course for the tax advantages. He idolizes authoritarian leaders of other morally corrupt countries such as China, North Korea and Saudi Arabia. Those are just a few of many. It would take too long to summarize all of them.
that would be terrible business, he would alienate trump supporters if he didnt say the election was stolen. He would become an agent of the deep state. Doesnt matter how much he defends trump every other time, it only takes one slip up and your corrupt, just ask Mike Pence.
Probably not. Him being a computer scientist, and the hoops of absolutely ignorant shit he'd have to pretend to not know would probably be to obvious for his thickly veiled dishonesty.
I can’t believe I only just discovered Sam Harris a week ago. almost everything I’ve heard from him so far is him verbalizing exactly how I feel. Thank you sir!
Sam couldn’t be more right. Spoken correctly. Vote. This is a true breaking point for America and the world. We can save it all if YOU participate, pay attention, and VOTE. It has never been more essential. Trump supporter (half the country) are def voting.
I think it's time we have the conversation that while 75 million people voted for Trump that isn't to say they all are still willing to support him in 24 it's maybe half that number. I agree that voters are disenfranchised with the division in government. This is what happens when to stop funding in a meaningful way, education, health care, agriculture. We should be outraged that any party would withhold these things. All great society's fail at this point and we are no different! We are failing because we're not educated and therefore can't lead, we are not healthy therfor we have trouble attending school or work. Without fundamentals we will fail. This is not a government only problem it is a religion problem it is a people problem and it is exposing the structure that has always held Democracy in check! And so if you eat poorly and are poorly uneducated and follow only one voice on issues because you are cut off from other people who could be another voice or choice. We have sat back and allowed redistricting to occure it's only function is to keep people from voting, or people of colour are continually being disenfranchised. We have allowed racism a seat at the table. And now we don't want to do the work to fix it, Trump was inevitable it was easy for voters to blame then accept. Trump isn't the problem he's the messenger, if we don't want to work at our republic no problem tireny awaits!! Either way it's up to us!
While I do think there were certainly large groups of people that did not see through Trump's con, what is far more disturbing to me is how many millions of people know exactly who he is and support him anyway, because either 1) They genuinely like having someone like that in power, or 2) They are willing to put someone like that in power, despite any other reservations they may have, because he bribed them on certain issues (usually abortion).
@@OneEyedJacker What "values"? Be specific. These are now facts: He mocks the handicap, is repulsed by wounded soldiers, decries gold star families, slept w/ a porn star while his wife was pregnant w/ his son, he paid for that sex, he was found, by a jury, to have raped a woman and caused her harm, he has fraudulently misrepresented documents to benefit himself over decades, he paid someone to take his SAT exams, he sues people he disagrees with to stifle them because he's richer, and he lies on a regular basis. Against the backdrop of who he IS, what he "values" be specific and state what values they share?
Private equity firms are bankrupting America. Trump dumped us out of the TPP at the behest of Russia (China's best neighbor) and ripped $4 billion in one day from farmers who spent years building those relationships, the wealthy are trying to shut down public education and eliminate Social Security, and fifty other major unreported problems and what are we having to worry about? Whether the greatest con man in the history of the galaxy will ever spend one night in jail. Fashionably "woke" or ultra-conservative, it's one giant sheetshow to keep us all distracted from trying to change anything, at least in any significant manner. My advice? Take a deep breath, secure your home, and don't make any major purchases until sanity is restored. Of course, that means you'll probably be wearing the same clothes and driving the same car for the next twenty years, but the only way out of the game is to choose not to play it, or at least play it as little as possible to the point it no longer stays profitable. Find out who your friends are, the good ones, and keep them close, and contrary to TV, keep your enemies as far out of town as possible. The law of the land is the rich get richer and the house always wins - as long as we keep playing the game. Vote and support minimum wage for politicians, make lobbying illegal, and allow anyone able to secure enough signatures to freely use the PUBLIC COMMONS AIRWAVES for a reasonable amount of political advertising so that it doesn't take so much money and political pandering to get elected.
Or they are awake and realize there was going to be no way to vote America out of tyranny in the future (now). The harm done by media focus on the 'deplorables' voting for trump and their dehumanization instead of on the experiment that failed hard enough to enable him, will be studied for a century. First president not to start a new war since Carter? hmmm
what I'd like to see is someone as competent and articulate as Sam Harris be able to communicate to the Trump supporter in their own language and be persuasive enough to disillusion them.
Very wise of Harris to highlight so clearly th Trump phenomenon. Brilliant remark on Trumps favour to society was only to highlight the holes without being clever enough to use them to kill democracy. So true that norms are more important than laws.
@@Studeb, you can find Bush's old readings lists from his presidency. He was voracious. I don't think he's dumb, just unwise and unethical. With the education he was gifted he would have had to try not to pick up some decent things. I bet he knows a little Ancient Greek and could discuss Leo Strauss.
W was a more dangerous idiot. he was a walking puppet. and the military industrial complex took full advantage of that. Trump is a less dangerous idiot. because his ego does not allow him to be turned into a puppet. he loves to do what W did, but his ego keeps blocking the puppeteers from taking control of him.
@@roddyboethius1722 Trump has used up any empathy or goodwill that was allotted to him. He’s an objectively bad man. It’s been a legit year since I watched Friedman, I’m sick of his poor judgement and naivety.
To understand Trump's followers investigate Theordore Adorno's The Authoritarian Personality. Adorno was a Herman Jew and part of the Frankfurt school. He wisely got out of Hermany and emigrated to the US. After the war, American Jewish groups asked him to explain the Holocaust from a social psychology perspective. The thinking was to try and understand if another Holocaust could happen in the US. Adorno came up with the Authoritarian Follower psychological profile. This is the type of person that would follow a Hitler type and be hostile to their leaders enemies. John Dean in his book Conservatives Without Conscience says that the GOP paid $billions to think tanks after the beating they took after Nixon and Vietnam. The advice they got was to ad all of the authoritarian followers into the GOP. This is about 25 percent of the population. Evangelicals are authoritarian followers too. The GOP courted them by promising to overturn Roe. Now that Roe has been overturned the GOP is going after LGBTQI to jeep evangelicals riles up. The GOP has a solid base of authoritarian followers but their overall numbers are declining. Look at MAGA as the last gasp for the GOP. It is either Trump and fascism or the party has nowhere left to go.
How refreshingly humble: “There are certain things that I don’t talk about on my podcast because I think I’m the wrong person to talk about it.” I really wish people like Joe Rogan would take that approach. We live in the era of “hey, I’m just asking questions and putting stuff out there and what do the experts know anyway?” Perhaps we should not talk publicly about things we don’t know much about?
Lex wants to view every person with some empathy, I can respect that since there very little of that going around. The problem is even if you should have empathy for a criminal, a person's sense of empathy should side with the victims over the criminal. Otherwise we're missing what true justice is.
Morality has a side and so does integrity...not blind adherence to a belief - that's dogma. I'm talking about something much easier to understand. Lex engages in the same BS that Joe Rogan and countless others due where they launch into these false equivalency justifications about everything they do or what others say even when they know it is wrong; it's almost always done for views, money, etceteras. Honorable men and women realize this. That doesn't mean we have to agree with everything someone says.
I truly believe that destructive sociopaths do not deserve empathy. You can recognize what they are, and sort of thank whatever thing you are spiritual towards that you aren’t that person. But when people actively and overtly seek to harm and make other people suffer, and they have no experience with possessing a conscience, then they just do not deserve it back. I don’t know how else to say that. I don’t think people who are truly at the bottom in terms of antisocial behavior have any hope of improving. Trump and people like him, especially nearing their age in anyway, are never gonna get better. They’re never gonna turn the page or really get past the place they’ve come to. They just wither away and then they die.
@@MrWorldasmaya Lex tries to prop himself up as some kind of "intellectual podcaster" as opposed to Rogan's conspiracy theory podcast show --- but he's very weak when it comes to analyzing underlying themes and core tenents of the subject matter he's talking about --- he keeps defending Trump but fails to see the vast immorality of a lifelong crook and fraudster the sinister intentions of the MAGA Swamp
Lex and Joe, to your point, use false equivalency. But additionally, they are both pretty empathic and while I find that honorable, the truth is, they're speaking to millions of people. Many of whom that do not have the faculties to parse put what is what. People that think Joe is qualified to comment on astrophysics, virology or any other deep science. So, they want to hear the other side of the story l, but then take it too far and Lex prides himself on not pushing back hard because of his caring, empathetic style. And the average intellect gets very confused.
there is literally nothing good about trump. therein lies the problem. he has no empathy for anyone or anything... he cares solely for himself and his gratification, which typically comes at the expense of others.
@@susuho675 If you care to search Wikipedia for “Being There” you will find that Chauncey Gardener was an American football player. The protagonist of Being There is Chance Gardener.
We should be well informed that DJT isn't just a maleficent narcissist and egotistical, but he is the best President Russia ever had! He is trying to overthrow the Government and all of our protective services, undermining scientists for a very sinister plan! The Republicans plan is to achieve total power authoritarianism, and their fascist beliefs. The banning books, history, taking funds from libraries, public schools, encouraging attacks on school board, teachers, not wanting to stop school shootings is to make us ignorant so we don't challenge them! They are trying to end democracy and become a third world country! They are teaching their base to be against efforts to fix climate change and creating no trust in science so they won't understand that we need to regulate the Big oil & billion dollar corporations that are damaging the earth and air to get richer! They use them to attack the people who are trying to decrease or slow down global warming the top 1% are talking about defunding our FBI police military intelligence judicial system and creating distrust so their base will fight against those entities for them making it easier to dismantle! Fascism authoritarian nationalists White rich power new world order is their goal and they will eliminate anyone who gets in their way! It is very dangerous and very scary! Don't make lite of it! Understand what they're doing bring lite to it you have the platform to do it please Sam Harris
If we were to dismiss all of Trump’s crimes, serial sexual assaults, business swindles, violation of the Logan Act, calls for violence, and threats against his opposition, would he as an intellectually depleted and incompetent of still be the one you want to represent and run the country? Not by any stretch.
Lex is very smart. He has known that for a long time. He's a shill because he's literally trying to save face with his friends, in the fact of data driven logic. Which he literally specializes in. He's dishonest in such a fake innocent way, that it's probably more dishonest than outright lying.
@@SvendleBerries we would have had our MOTHER OF ALL WARS, except the iranians did nt bite....... when the orange idiot assassinated their general without any provocation ........
First 60 seconds of exposure to Trump is more than sufficient to know Trump is human sewage. And a waste of oxygen that can better be used by bacteria to digest sewage. ---- I grew up in New York (upstate a little from the city). Maybe measuring people FAST is a skill you learn young when con-men are everywhere trying to sell you something.
See, the problem with Sam is that his entire basis for criticizing Trump is personal. I agree with everything he says on that end. But he should be destroying Trump’s policies, yet he’s here saying he agrees with 80% of them. Thats insane. Categorizing Trump’s immigration policy as agreeable is fucking nuts.
@@flavio7180 to steal a phrase from Pat Cooper, Trump is the genius of himself. He knows how to get reality to bend to his will, which is a thankfully rare talent. But when it comes to domestic and foreign affairs, the man is a simpleton.
Lex honestly I usually watch both(right and left) sides to a conversation you have but you seem to hit back harder to left leaning guests. It’s no secret who your friends are just ask if you could lean in on the other guests just as much. You seem to talk down to people who don’t lean right
Something interesting about commenters here. If you act critical towards trump they instantly and incessantly bring up Biden. I don’t think people critical of trump ime like Biden either.
I personally feel the empathy . In fact I always feel empathy for those who have been conned into believing outright liars when cults form around them. Although when its as obvious as Trump's buffoonery it does get difficult to carry that empathy very far. TDS as a claim is just a defense mechanism of the cultists and another piece of propaganda.
Sam Harris seems to be describing the societies of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, where the worlds happiest people reside. These social democracy countries and others like them such as New Zealand and Australia are an anathema to the good people of the US
Don’t forget your neighbor up North. We are so relived that America got rid of Trump here in Canada. But sad how much damage he had caused to your country.
the problem with america is that its a land of immigrants which has no real social safety net immigrants come in work hard - work without a safety net - become rich and financially secure the locals and grand children of immigrants who don't work as hard, lose out and bemoan their lowly status thereof they look at hard-working risk-taking immigrants and resent the success of the later hard-working risk-taking locals don't complain, they have built in advantages over their immigrant equivalents
Sam Harris is thoughtful and well spoken. I share his views but he expresses his views way better than I could. Thanks for sharing. I will seek out more conversations with Sam Harris and look up his podcasts.
Well he failed the second time too he just took a lot of people down with him. But I get your point. He succeeded in installing fascism in a previously fairly liberal democracy. This is where America is headed...no matter who they get to do it.
@@beckydavis1820I try to be as open minded as possible, but open-mindedness is no excuse to fail to make necessary moral judgements. I used to think Trump was a big clown. I will even agree that the mainstream media was unfair to him in certain ways. But his speech has grown even more unhinged and Angry recently. I really believe that Trump winning will be the end of this country.
I came here from a facebook post that said. if you replace every time he says Trump with Biden there are actual poof or fact that backs up what he's saying. ..fucking insane the time we live in.
Lex doesn’t seem to get it. I couldn’t fathom where his questions came from half the time. I wonder if he spliced the wrong interview onto his questions. Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
@@strategery101 My money is on Sam being much smarter than you. With BA Stanford and PhD UCLA, I'm more inclined to agree with his reasoning, and analysis, than yours. In fact I'd go as far to say, that he obviously has empathy, whereas you appear to have zero moral compass. You want pathetic, look in the mirror!
@@flipgsp unfortunately, what Sam said was more like “if hunter Biden (not the presidential candidate joe Biden) committed unspeakable crimes, that does not make Joe Biden (not his son, just a lame old politician) less viable than Trump (a man that has been a known malevolent narcissist and incompetent jerk for 3 decades).” Sam was abundantly clear and sober about Trump’s qualities and negative influence to the extent that he even described the pathological support for trump that you demonstrate and predictably could not possibly reflect on before getting pathetically defensive.
Supreme irony in the fact that Trump, as devoid of redeeming moral value as Harris claims, should be the one to break him. It's never been Sam's evaluation of the man that led him to the fringes, but rather what he's claimed is acceptable to sacrifice in bringing him down.
At the 17:10 mark, "entertaining ourselves to death". Harris comes very close to quoting the title of the book, Amusing Ourselves to Death: public discourse in the age of showbusiness (1985). Neil Postman's excellent book is more relevant now than it's ever been.
At the Hunter laptop point of the interview, there is a point to be made about how our society views private life and public life. Much like the Clintons, the Bidens have been in politics for 50+ years, and you don't succeed in that culture without undergoing extreme scrutiny. The smallest failing becomes frontpage fodder. As a private citizen, however, you can avoid all that and simply burnish a public image without fear of your personal life being exposed by anyone but the Paparazzi. This is why most celebrities avoid politics. Trump worked tirelessly for decades burnishing just such a superficial image from the safety of private life. The instant he threw his hat in the ring, that changed for him. His true character and his past would inevitably catch up with him. Like Icarus, he flew higher and higher, until he flew too close to the sun. The problem of corruption in politics isn't something that you can nail down on a single person, because it's deeply cultural and the media only shows the surface.
Very sound analysis. That's why most Hollywood actors and pro athletes keep their mouths shut. They could lose everything they have. And you make a great point that Trump was able to fly under the radar of scrutiny for decades because people thought he was just a clown, like people initially thought of Hitler.
Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/Qyrjgf-_Vdk/видео.html
Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman
Guest bio: Sam Harris is an author, podcaster, and philosopher.
Trump voters weren't fooled by trump. They know exactly what he is. That's what they want.
You forgot to include that Sam is also a neuroscientist.
Treat guests with respect.
@Andrew Justis Harris gets more than a million downloads for each of his podcast episodes. Someone cares what he has to say.
This is awesome! Both these men are GREAT!❤❤❤❤
Lex says at one point that Trump is joking. Lex is not a stupid man, but I think his brain has been broken by Trump, not Sam's. How could you possibly think he's joking about the election being stolen. What has Lex talked himself into and why? Has he become part of the problem?
Lex likes the money. This 'blindness to Trumps obvious issues' is something that's pretty spread amongst the right wing grift for cash sphere... lotsa ppl like to make easy money off an easy to appease audience ...
Could not agree more. I respect the hell out of Lex and his passion for pursuing intellectual honesty, truth and his sense of compassion in society. But he has drank the Trump Kool Aid, and on multiple occasions I see his perfectly reasoned mind defend Trump in such ridiculous ways.
@mikescott4195 I'm sure that's an aspect in some way but wildly popular "apolitical" and terminably diplomatic and even agreeable people in the public sphere attract a lot of attention from sociopathic manipulators with insane amounts of resources and all the time in the world to get in their ear in some form or another. He probably counts Elon Musk as a personal friend and people like Jordan Peterson aren't too far away. Idk what they've said to him and the methods probably differ a bit but it's almost certain that he has the same "friends" curating his contrarian brain as Rogan.
It's because Lex is supported by Peter Thiel, just like JD Vance is supported by Thiel also.
No, Sam and others have TDS. Trump did not "destroy democracy." You've all been brainwashed.
Lex: Don't you think you're wrong about Trump?
Sam: No, here's why (5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation)
Lex:Yes, but what do you think about The "Sam Harris' brain is broken" meme?
Sam: 5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation
Lex: OK, but don't you think you should have more empathy and say good things about Trump?
Sam: No, here's why (5 minutes of calm, detailed explanation)
Lex: Yeah but don't you think Trump saying before the election that it was rigged if he lost was just comedy....
What a bonkers interview. He asks Sam questions which Sam gives calm, reasoned answers to, and Lex just asks him another version of the same question hoping that this time Sam will admit he was wrong about Trump, or went too far and that Trump really did break his brain. Over and over. Each time Sam lays out his thinking quite clearly. Lex doesn't respond to the content of the response, just continues with the "are you suuurrrreee you don't have TDS" line of questioning. I've never really understood the appeal of Lex.
Exactly
@@PatrickSmithAgreed. Lex annoys me with his spinelessness, but the people he interviews are often great. The channel has value.
@@chethankrishnan6639 and he lets Sam answer uninterrupted. Very rare with many interviewers
Watch Scott Adams debate Sam about Trump.
Could Sam think of a single good thing Trump did? Abraham accords? Calming things down with North Korea? Anything?
He seems a bit, um ... Irish ?
Saying someone has TDS instead of presenting a counter argument, Is just using a personal insult, instead of presenting anything fruitful.
"TDS" is rarely used as a counter argument.
Conservatives have spent almost a decade attempting to convince liberals that Reality exists.
After years of dealing with this absurdity, "TDS" was invented as a shorthand to describe a person who has an illogical, delusional, or unfounded opinion of Trump.
It's impossible to discuss the issues with someone who won't acknowledge fundamental reality.
I agree in most cases, but TDS is definitely real, some people just cant keep their emotions in check and are just obsessed with straw manning trump. I'm no trumpie but MSNBC has TDS running rampant among their employees, just like how newsmax has trump D riding syndrome.
All assertions need facts - not interpretations - to back them up. Otherwise they needn't be heard.
It's the classic "we can't argue your merits so we will attack your proxy aspects as a being". So classic of anyone on the Trump coolaid. Trump has not once in his life actually argued politics and betterment of the country. All he knows is how to attack another person and turn the stage into some mock version of a Slim Shady rap battle in front of room temp IQ crowds who will follow spectacle and confidence over factuality and reason.
You want facts? Sam Harris actually argued that he had no problem keeping information about the Hunter Biden laptop completely hidden from the American voter because it would hurt Biden, and according to Harris he would be saving democracy in doing that. OMG, you want to talk about morbid Narcissism? It's Sam Harris.
Lex, quit defending Trump. You can't make a conman into a conservative hero.
@@thevaccinator666 Trump University. Trump Network. Trump Foundation, all scams, all out of business. Please google it, it's just history
@@thevaccinator666trump university for example? Maybe the fact he overvalues his assets when trying to obtain loans and then undervalues them for the purposes of paying less taxes? Trying to get fake elector slates to be counted in Georgia and 7 other states instead of the legitimate ones for biden? I could go on
@@thevaccinator666I hate to be an asshole or to seem like I’m dodging the question but how can you not perceive him as a conman? It drips off of him. It is so obvious that it always startles me when someone doesn’t see it. That sounds pretentious and unhelpful I’m sure but that’s my authentic reaction.
The way he speaks is one thing to consider. He doesn’t speak like an intelligent, well-read, well-informed, competent person. He speaks like someone who is trying to create a vibe of aggrandizement and adoration around himself. He obsesses over crowd sizes. He makes up demeaning nicknames for his political opponents like a playground bully would. He says bizarre and meaningless things like “It’s amazing. It’s going to be amazing. It’s going to be very, very amazing” and “Nobody has done more for women (or insert any group here) than me” and “Everyone says I’m the best. They say to me ‘Trump you’re the best’”. This is all gibberish and a massive red flag that the person saying it is trying to con you and create a false air of competence about themselves. This is how someone speaks who has no substance whatsoever and therefore must bluster and boast their way to success.
Not to mention Trump is a liar of mythological proportions who will even lie when it’s completely pointless and does nothing to help him and in fact just contradicts what he just said 5 minutes ago. He’s also a convicted felon and was trailing dozens upon dozens of lawsuits before he ever even ran for President.
@@thevaccinator666Trump University, his charitable foundation that he defrauded, $60 bibles, $100k watches that "may not be as shown" in ads... You need me to keep going..?
@thevaccinator666 like Sam explained, Trump doesn’t have any true ideological beliefs besides making himself more powerful and famous. He convinced huge swath of people he has spent his whole life avoiding that he truly cares about them. He sold millions on the idea that he would make major changes to the structure of buerocracy in Washington and “drain the swamp” and then just brought in a bunch of grifters and relatives to fill positions that they had no qualifications for. He told us he was going to make America great again, and literally his only major policy was a massive tax cut for the rich.
He did all this, was a failure of a president, and is somehow convincing his base again that he was and will be amazing for the country. This is not to mention his entire career of conning people with cheap products meant to look fancy, and those products/companies going bankrupt.
“There are not two sides to a story when one side is lying.”
Are you talking about the Trump/Russia collusion lies?
Or maybe the Hunter Biden laptop?
@@paullambert8183Clinton emails!
@@paullambert8183
The HB laptop is a lie. I am sorry you would fall for such an obvious scam.
@@paullambert8183Funny how the biggest thing that Maga cultists can attack Biden on, is not only yet to be proven but was also done by Dump himself.
In the movie “Excalibur” from around 1980, King Arthur asks Merlin which principle is the most important. The answer: The truth. Humans better figure that out. The Joker is not a model for any system to survive.
Do we live in a movie?
Absolutely. Natural processes are no joke.
@@AnthonyLeamanwe don't live in a movie but we can teach and learn from some movies...movies made by people who live in reality and some movie are a reflection of reality
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages.
William Shakespear
Well said!
Been aware of Trump for best part of 40 years and have never seen him as anything other than a huckster and carnival barker.
Snake oil salesman as well
As opposed to what? Any other politician? He fits right in.
Throw in rapist. When he raped ivana he pulled a clump of her hair out
I worked in NY , union sheet metal ,and he has been a LIEING grifter since the 80s
And he does not pay is bills. Just a loser then as now
@@Jackaroo.Your trolling is subpar
Respect to Sam for being one of the few Podcasters that I follow who had honest opinions on Trump and didn’t hold back for the sake of keeping an audience. I still like a lot of these guys that I’ve listen to for years, but many of them failed this test to me. Way too light handed.
Totally agree. I found David Feldman recently and he's comforting to me and shares your characteristics. However I'm in hospice and finally got to the stage where i need a big dose of humor with the truth. I like Sam and have learned a lot but sometimes -- more & more lately -- i also need comfort and laughs with the heavy topics like these. Sam is one of the most intelligent guys Ive come across & esp i appreciate his views on religion and atheism. 😊
Trump 2024. The only sane choice. Harris obviously suffers from TDS.
Anyone who supported trump should get respect for not holding back and telling people they support him with the great chance they will get alienated from their family and friends.
@@AndrewQuiroz24 Lmao not really. I bet you don't think the same for people who supported Obama or Biden when their family and friends are conservative Republicans in some rural area. It all depends on where you're from or your background and you can still get some backlash from either side. Trump supporters aren't victims lol gtfo with that.
@@rob97dani dude if you say that you support trump as a minority everyone calls you white. What are you talking about? White elitists enable this narrative through colleges for blacks and browns to overwhelmly think a certain way and when we deviate we go against the tribalistic nature of our group. It's BS. I will GLADLY explain to you in person how white liberal elites are imposing these TOXIC messages on our youth.
Sam has it pretty much nailed down. Excellent thoughts by this man.
Sam is the same person who advocated ending democracy so the elites can pick our leaders in secret. Not only that he's too biased to see that Trump wasn't dangerous compared to other presidents. For example:
Trump is the first president since Carter who refused to drag America into a new war. Trump also did what Obama said he would do but never did, Trump set in motion America's withdrawal from Afghanistan. Just for comparison, Bush Jr dragged America into war with 2 countries and Obama expanded it to 7 countries. Millions died. Trump also refused to get involved in Russia and Ukraine, and Russia is threatening nuclear war if America gets involved any further, Biden doesn't care.
Sam hates the American people and is a spokesperson for the donors, foreigners and elites who oppose his America First agenda
ruclips.net/video/fBfLEsmPXdY/видео.html - whats your thought on this?
Sam has TDS big time.
Trump needs no deep dive by a PhD...anyone with 2 connected brain cells knows a person that's nothing more than an illiterate bigot.
That anyone thought Trump was the answer to elitism demonstrates a level of stupidity that I never suspected existed.
Lex did, Lex is a fraud and is more russian than ukrainian.
Respectfully, have you ever been pushed to desperation, hopelessness. The mind begins to do strange things. It doesn't give up.
Jesus is the answer to elitism.
@@Kenneth-ts7bp Nah, Thor is much better.
@@Kenneth-ts7bp My friend Felicia, who has, remarkably, never been wrong about anything, ever, not even once, says you're wrong.
"Let's get normal mediocrities in that role, not a once in a generation narcissist and fraud." 😂😂😂
Trump is so selfesh he is the FIRST President to leave office with less wealth than he had the day he went in.
Trump thinks he's superior when he struggles just to be average.
I laughed out loud when Sam made this comment.
his wish came true. we got the bidet, the living cadaver. can't get more mediocre than that in america....
Sshhhush
We need more Sam Harrises. He’s grossly under appreciated both as a citizen of our country and as a member of the human race
The sad thing l questioned why doesn’t the Sam Harrises of America don’t run for president?
We have enough virtue signally and grandstanding spineless people with no principles when it comes to Trump .
No. Don’t do this. I love Sam too, but it’s that same hero worship that corrupted so many like Sam. He is just a man speaking truth, and if it inspires more to do the same, then that’s great. But putting him on a pedestal for doing something fairly easy is ascending him to a higher type of power. And power corrupts.
@@longtallsally4493this much should not qualify someone for president. He is just saying things that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain. There is a whole other set of skills and knowledge that is rather more important for being president. That said, he'd still be a vastly better president than Trump since Trump has none of those other skills either, and at least Harris cares about the truth.
Trump gave his supporters some thing no other candidate could. He allowed them to be the worst version of themselves.
Trump didn’t start any new wars the first president in 50 years America to do that. Sorry. Reality.
These people argue Trump was incompetent they mean he was incompetent at funding the money laundering death machine the military industrial complex that Democrats like Biden are extremely competent in doing. Missing moral compass! Lolz 😂 What a clown act these two are.
America was at its best. All of these two in the video and your crying about nothing is you at your worst.
And what has sleepy joe done for you?
@@markderamo9229 you’re a bot
@@TheRealAbraxas Prove it. I'll wait here patiently...... 😀
@@markderamo9229 President Biden did'nt try and overthrow our government, when it was a fair election.
Unbelievable how much Lex was trying to defend Trump and spouting Red Herring arguments.
The truth lies somewhere in the middle, Trump isn't a deranged maniacal goofball demon as Harris makes him out to be. Lex is just pushing back on that and even confronted him about TDS, which Sam very clearly has developed a severe case of.
My thought exactly.
Please give an example instead of making generalizations. And I doubt you know what a "Red Herriing" even is.
Was it just to ensure that all of Trump's doings were discussed and debunked. To truly lay bare how dangerous Trump was and still is.
Well lex is trying not to lose the trumpies, he wants them to keep watching so they don't just get lost in their echo chamber of insanity
In the opener Lex Fridman says, "...even if the election was fairly executed."
I really felt at that point, there was no reason to listen to this any further.
Respect for Sam Harris - I think he is a solid analyst and a keeper of the facts.
Lex is playing devil's advocate in a lot of this conversation.
I suggest you relax a bit on the tribalism.
Sorry to burst ur bubble, but Harris has the mindset of a fascist and I can prove it.
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@@ManicMindTricksame 2 u
Exactly right, he starts by denying a fact that has been corroborated by over 60 court cases, tens of audits, independent reviewers, all carried and paid by the loosing party. So sad to see people unable or unwilling to accept reality just to please a man with so many flaws.
Sam Harris - intelligent, sensible, insightful, articulate, wise. In the UK, we are at a loss to understand how Trump can have such a following.
@@andrewedwards6946 we “ sane America’s “ are at a loss to understand “ It’s like a bad dream!! Even people with half a brain should be able to see how unfit Trump is to lead Americans as President!!…..OMG! To put so much power into a maniac’s hands . What will happen to us ?? I will be Afraid that we will be saying, “ Hail Trump! “ and our own families will turn us in if we don’t comply. You know this happens in other countries! If can happen here! !
Lex, in his blind struggle to find sympathy for even the most clear cut corrupt and morally bankrupt actors, comes across as someone with a mind so open his brain fell out.
is nt the mind and the brain the same thing? lol..........
@@AsifKhan-hf9zynot exactly. People don’t say “have an open brain”.
Mind is the result or synthesis of the brains biology. Brain is the physical thing.
At least that’s how Id think of it.
It’s lose and fuzzy though because anything that is experienced as “the mind” is happening inside the brain so how are to concepts separated..
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Agreed. I would say that the mind is more synonymous with consciousness, than with the brain. It is the result of brain activity.
Thank you for this succinct review of this hour.
I think he's trying
Lex has always had a soft spot for narcissistic lying billionaires.
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@@amberackerson5916 Elmo Musk
Yes that came through. His bad faith defenses of Trump were transparent.
Apparently that is what pays the most money for podcasters this days... Carry the water for wealthy narcissistic shitheads and keep the bases of half-brained conservative troglodytes in a permanent state of hate and paranoia...
@@MugRuith Agree 100%. A bit surprising and sad IMO.
Sam talking sense the whole time and Lex acting like the other side has a point lol
Yes incredulous lol. I guess the one thing that absolutely blows me out of the water shock is that a very sizable number of Americans could ever in a million years vote for this guy for anything much less President! I think djt has made me aware of things I would never be aware of is that we have people that would in a zillion years think this guy should be the President of the most powerful country in the entire history of the known world and have his reprobate (being kind) fingers on the nuclear button!!! Jeez Louise I need my brain rewired for real!!
@@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm it is also unfathomable to me lol
I know! I couldn’t tell if Lex was playing devil’s advocate or is just a Trumper
@@jlump228 yeah, it is hard to say honestly, but that he seems to have the 'other sides' point down so clear, makes it seem like its his perspective, plus he kept going on about how he always respected Sam for his level headedness but that he was not being level headed about Trump.
@@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm the most incredulous part is that he got 10 million MORE votes in 2020.
10 million people in this country couldn't stand to pull the lever for him in 2016, but the following 4 years of nightmare won them over. What in the actual hell.
I could listen to Sam shares his views on Trump for hours and hours...more please!
There is a lot of that out there, both in interviews like this and his own podcast he's had for many years now.
not this one. I listened mostly to all of it and it was just as elitist as the man he criticized only in a better form.Harris is not a populist . At least the border was more secured and his relationship to Russia was not any different in principle as Israel is to the Arabs. Why critique that? Trump did a great job with our adversaries in gaining respect. Sam says nothing about Biden.and yes the election was rigged . Do want a answer to that?
Sam threaded a needle, avoiding traps to do so. I try to be open minded. When my students have suggested obviously fictitious or distorted views of reality, I have usually just told them to look at the objectively verified data to find the truth. Far too many of my fellow Americans have either not learned, or have forgotten, what objective truth means and how to find it.
THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.
do people actually think Lex Fridman is smart or incisive? Because he doesn't come off that way.
Amen. He's an articulate communicator, and people can take that and run to some pretty far off conclusions.
Lex does
Yes. He absolutely is.
Then you have quite a way to go. Good luck.
To suggest, that Lex is not intelligent or insightful shows an ignorance, that is most profound
I love how unbelievably accurate and level headed his assessment is and people still are just commenting negative shit. Did you even listen????
not at any stage during this part or any part of the podcast did he recognise the potential for his own biases or blind spots on every issue he has touched over the last 5 years (btw he has been wrong on numerous stances and that fact makes this all the more insane. his self admiration is 'trumped' only by donald himself)
Take it from someone who was a Sam Harris fanatic for 9 years and who never liked Trump pre 2016…..Sam has a massive blindspot regarding his assessment of Trump and Trump supporters and Trump defenders. He straw man’s the shit out of all of it. You can listen to the podcast he did in 2015 were the cracks in his brain slowly formed. I think it was with Paul Bloom but i may he wrong.
@@camcunningham9443 Not really. He literallly admitted that government is usually corrupt and that’s why people voted for trump because they wanted someone that wasn’t a career politician. That’s literally a fact. But we all know trump is a narcissist whether your e a fan of him or not. Sam’s view of trump is the fairest I’ve seen so far from someone that isn’t on his side lmao.
@@SP7000SP i don't waste more oxygen than necessary on people who talk like you
They don’t listen at all. They simply can’t get past the fact that someone doesn’t like their hero, Trump. It’s a shame. Same repetitive, boring strawman arguments and ad hominems in every comment section.
At the 22.28 mark, Harris mentions the movie Being There (1979), which is another late 20th century reference at a time when it was increasingly apparent that we were living in a media saturated society. I've made this reference often in my posts. Just to provide a bit of the backstory to this subtle comedy - a middle-aged man named "Chance" has extreme autism and has lived his entire life under the care of "The old man" who dies near the beginning of the movie. Chance had been the gardener of the old man's estate, but now that the old man was dead, Chance was to become homeless. However, as "chance" would have it, and without a care in the world, Chance simply dressed up in one of the old man's nicest formal suits, packed one suitcase and simply began strolling down the street. He is completely disengaged with the world around him and is incapable of fear when street thugs approach him, and he simply appears too important for them to dare do anything to him. Chance has an addiction to TV, and when he sees several of them in a store window, he completely zones out, especially when they display people as they walk by the store. This leads him to step out into the street, where he is gently bumped by a car, but not just any car. As "chance" would have it, it was a limo owned by one of the wealthiest families in the country. Out of fear that they might be sued by this very important person, they take him under their care, and assume his autism is just a part of his eccentric genius. Now that he is under their care, it isn't long before his serendipitous rise to the presidency. The central theme revolves around appearances and how people are easily fooled by them.
It's so bizarre to me that those of us who have a problem with Trump and his toxic behaviour are labelled with Trump Derangement Syndrome, when all measurable indicators of an unhealthy fixation on Trump are clearly and exclusively displayed by the individuals who support him. And the argument is such an easy call. For example: at one point, we all believed that sexism, racism, bullying, fraud, self absorption, pettiness, criminality, exploitation, combativeness, lying, name calling, bigotry, bragging, lack of accountability, cheating, nepotism, infidelity, disrespect, extortion, bad sportsmanship, deception, rash decisionmaking, intolerance, irresponsibility, hypocrisy, sore losing, immorality and lack of integriy were negative qualities in a person and anyone who exhibited more than one or two of them, let alone ALL of them, triggered red flags in all of us.
The difference now though, is that while most of us still hold those same beliefs and values, there is a large swath of the population who woke up this morning feeling that those qualities are suddenly perfectly fine with us, to the point where we may even actively engage in some of them, ourselves. THAT is deranged
The wealthy family member says what is you name, his reply "I'm Chance The Gardner". Then he's being introduced to others as Mr. Chauncy Gardner. I was 15 yrs old when I saw the movie in 1979 at the theatre and even at that age found it hilarous. Classic Peter Sellers dry humour throughout.
Thank you so much for this post! I MUST watch this movie. 👍🏼
@@Splexx Yes, he was being served a stiff alcoholic beverage as he was being asked his name and gagged on it, thus leading them to assume "chance the gardener" was "Chauncy Gardner."
One of my top 3 favorite movies of all time.
Companies under Trump went into bankruptcy 5 times. How many lives did that alone wreck? In most Western Countries a guy like that wouldn't be allowed to do business anymore.
The beauty of America is that you can fail, pick yourself back up and try again. Many successful businesses were made by people who failed multiple times. You would like these middle Eastern countries where they practice what you suggest. If you fail, you are not allowed to do business again and can even go to jail due to debts until such debts are repaid.
Also there is a reason these Western Countries you speak of lag behind America in almost every field.
So why was he "allowed" to?
You do recognize that most bankruptcies are simply reorganizations. Bankruptcies lawyers who specialize in this field get together to try to work out new terms. Whenever such things are publicized they always mention chapter 7, chapter 13 or whatever. I'm not sure which is which but only one represents a total ending of the business.
I think you will find he really has the "Reverse Midas" touch, and destroys everything he touches, without any exception whatsoever.
Sam Harris has read my mind and spoke so eloquently the truth of the matter. So many will never understand or even care to understand.
Exactly - although Sam can sometimes put his foot in his mouth, if you hear out the depth of his positions, they are always well-reasoned, articulate, and most often objectively correct.
How so many people doesn't see Trump the same way Sam does will never cease to baffle me. The man is just so blatantly contemptible.
Lex's attempts to defend Trump are so ... pitiful. You can see on his face how anguished he is that his feeble rationalizations keep being dismantled by Harris.
@user-zz5je1ry1o only in my mind am I famous
@@GiuseppeSan "if you hear out the depth of his positions, they are always well-reasoned, articulate, and most often objectively correct. " - like this one here: ruclips.net/video/fBfLEsmPXdY/видео.html
do you believe we all should see Trump as sam Harris?? and have a similar opinion??
whats your thought on the video I put here?
@h.p.b.2956 right?? These jiu-jitsu nerds are part of the problem
Hats off to Sam Harris to remain zen-like through this incompetent and boring line of questioning.
I guess his questions lead to Sam giving precise answers to topis the public migh want aswered but they're some of the lamest Ive ever heard come out of Lex's mouth.
Something has died in this country. It seems impossible to return to it but I believe there is a way. Traumas are healed through acknowledging the trauma, remembering the pre traumatic state, grieving it’s loss and recommitting oneself to life.
We need to snap out the denying, start the grieving, and fall back in love with our beautiful roots of decency, democracy and love. For this we need a real leader who can harness these great energies and model the grieving process in a way we can collectively participate in the healing.
Any loving souls out there - heal of your own wounds so you can lead the way collectively. There is no other way I don’t think.
I'll say you don't....
Thoughtful comment. @@warrenallsopp
No, really just no. No more healing and complaining, no more rights rights rights, no more "trauma". Just work. Honest work, not spreading asscheeks on OF. Honest work and raising families with proper values. No need for endless taxpayer-funded "healing". The taxpayer is tapped out.
Lex, you seem like a thoughtful person etc.. What are you doing here, exactly? Do you really need someone to tell you how dangerously insane trump is. Let alone Sam. WTF?
Been that way forever. I stopped listening mid way through 2016 because I couldn't stand the constant fawning over Trump. Otherwise, been a fan of Lex, but can't square falling for such an obvious danger to this country.
You probably need to take a step back and think about how if half the country likes Trump, it's very important that they hear conversations like this one, especially since it's a much richer point of view than the one-sided garbage people spew in the media.
Lex does same re Elon
@@cosmocalisse "Half the country" is not accurate at all. Only half of the Americans who are eligible to vote, vote.
Of that half of the population, less than half voted for trump. He never won the popular vote.
So, if every voting republican was 100% in love with trump, it would only be about 25% of the population.
I would argue that half of the republican voters are not happy with trump and would rather have someone else conducting the same policies.
That would mean about 12% of the country "likes" trump. Certainly not half.
And that doesn't include people who are either ineligible to vote or too young to vote, only the eligible voting population.
So technically, it would be
He's playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion
You are trying to bait him into a gotcha so hard and you failed everytime
Lex is a moron pseudo intellectual.
7 minutes in and all of this seems reasonable from both perspectives. Trump is definitely missing moral and psychological tools. I’ll assume based on the comments that I’m the only person who agrees with that assessment. Interesting.
It's just like saying the sky is blue dude. It's just sad to see how susceptible so many Americans were to this obvious and pathetically insecure con man. Sad! The movie Ideocracy was soooooo prophetic.
@@davearbuthnot5809 - because Biden/Obama is better somehow? How?
Yeah I don’t get the comment section. I have been watching all the Sam clips and it’s the same thing. They all can’t be bots right
@scoobihu1090 okay, but they actually like him. They’re not saying he’s awful and that he’s going to destroy everything. They think he’s doing a wonderful job making america great. And plus it’s not “broken beyond repair” you can literally vote someone in you actually agree with rather than someone you simply think will destroy it all. Like if that’s what you think that’s just an objectively bad strategy.
Everyone’s lives were better when he was President. Low taxes, low gas prices, no new wars.
Lex's monetizing as he contorts his mind to understand a very simple, obvious fact.
That question Sam asked at the end there (even though it was about the Middle East) is really at the heart of the crises facing America now. What do we do when up to half of the populace is so misinformed and deranged and ideologically driven that they fundamentally have a different culture and vision of what America is and stands for? Since we do rely on norms to hold the nation together what happens when the norms disintegrate? What happens when democracy becomes the impediment to the "power at all costs" mentality on the right? Are civil war and secession inevitable?
Yeah Trumps plan was never to eliminate the establishment, the military industrial complex, or the deep state. It was to co-opt them and bend them utterly to his will to do the bidding of his brand of elitism. Very much like what Putin has done in Russia.
"What do we do when up to half of the populace is so misinformed and deranged and ideologically..." -- Why don't you get out of your bubble and take a look at your half of the population and admit to their derangement? The current president is a pathological liar and people like you show your ignorance with the comment you made.
I think our political system of checks and balances could take care of trump and his ilk. If it doesn't then we will need to work on our constitution in order keep fascists from toppling our countries government.
And we should not see major legislation change every four years because one party stacks the supreme court.
"...the "power at all costs" mentality on the right"? Did you mean the left?
@@fgb3126nope. He meant the right, as in MAGA.
Sorry but having any plan other than "I get to be the center of attention" is giving him far too much credit. Trump has indeed never in his life strung together 3 consecutive sentences on the same topic or without invoking himself in a non sequitur..
Respecting Trump for disrupting the system is like thanking the drunk driver who almost killed your child in an accident for having caused more stringent laws on drunk driving.
But did he die tho
@@JMartinJ But that drunk driver is still going to jail tho
I was a former Trump voter and can admit I got duped by mountains of propaganda. The thing is most of his voters are good people but the propaganda machine is too strong.
No, sorry, they are not good people. If they aren't racists, they are racist tolerant. If they aren't liars, they are liar tolerant. If they aren't cheaters, they are cheater tolerant. If they aren't corrupt, they are corruption tolerant. If they are not traitors, they are traitor tolerant. Lots of MAGAs like him just because he's nasty. Not good..
@@---Dana---- I don't think you could scream I'm an empty headed lunatic louder than you did there. Well done!
And there’s not a mountain of propaganda coming from the Left?
Good in what way? Good providers, mothers, fathers, Christians, citizens, patriots? Trump appealed to the parts of the tribal, reptilian brain that fears and hates the success of the others. As if other's gains were proportional to your losses (or perceived losses). I'm heartened by your self awareness but see no convincing evidence that the majority of true believers share your epiphany. Many of my family members fell for the outsider myth and now are reticent to speak about him at all. Now it's Biden bashing, trying to equate, with little success, the failures of the current administration with the unmitigated disasters of the previous. I don't believe the current political debate is an education opportunity for Republicans in general, I tell Trump apologists to vote their conscience and I will do the same.
I would rather have the propaganda of Trump than the outright destruction coming from Biden and the radical left.
How can institutions not get corrupted if we allow corrupt people to pick the people who are in charge of them.
I think Sam Harris is on the level.
Lex is just not good at talking politics and he doesn’t have a good grasp of American history. He should stick to science focused interviews. Saying trump would “shake up the elitist system” is laughable. What exactly about trump is not elitist? His daddy gave him millions of dollars, bought his way into an Ivy League school, never had a real job, was a draft dodger because daddy paid for a medical excuse. I will never comprehend why so many people think this guy is some kind of champion of the working class.
He said years ago he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and not lose his supporters. Fox came right out and admitted to helping trump fool them with stolen election lies.....and yet, they are ready for more. Sam is right to be concerned. Something is very wrong in the USA.
I believe Lex is good hearted, but his foundational experience has been with the Russian government, which skews his evaluation of the American system. He automatically assumes there are parallels which may or may not exist.
I know when MAGA people believe he will serve on their behave just because he eats KFC( on his private plane). How can people so blind and being fooled by a well know con man openly grifting them?
Lex needs to hit the books. Seems out of his depth in politics and history. Trump is a total con artist.
Agree.
Cheerleading trump from people who know they shouldn’t be cheerleading for trump: That would be the Republicans in the U.S. Congress. All of them, AND their staff members.
"The clown car that was the Four Seasons Landscaping." Just love how he concisely paints a picture for us.
Enjoyed the discussion. So tired of being tired of Trump!
I've heard the word "rigged" so many times I don't remember what it means anymore. Now it's just a meaningless small mouth noise.
Sam nailed it at the end with incentives. Incentive structures are EVERYTHING in a system involving humans and great power, and we've relied too long on norms that people would not abuse these systems with their power instead of providing a strong incentive structure to promote decisions that create a better society for all of us.
Excellent comment. I'm surprised You don't have more "likes"
Yes exactly, look at the supposed Supreme Court. Look after themselves thats why there here like the donald. Period
@@johnalden948 Over 304k Views and only 5k thumbs ups means he got a sh!tload of hidden thumbs downs because they don't agree with his BS. He needs to stick with aetheism and get off politics because peeps are calling out his BS.
@@matrox Specific. Be specific. What of "his BS" occurred here? What, specifically, was/is he wrong about?
@@johnalden948 In part because a lot of people watching are intent on their tribalism - they'd rather look first for division 'how does this comment point out the failures of my enemy' or 'how does it specifically agree with me' rather than looking at the problems from 30k feet. And, frankly, they're afraid to admit that what they've been taught their entire life 'capitalism is perfect' any hints that its not fall upon deaf ears.
« It says a lot about our society to have a man of that character gets to that level of leadership « that’s what I have been saying about the leaders in my country 🤒
Thank god we woke up and elected dementia Joe
@@casualobserver2380Thank god we fired dementia Don, the traitor and fascist.
@@casualobserver2380hes doing so much better than Trump. Cry about it.
@@casualobserver2380you obviously dont understand dementia...
The "pure ponorgraphy of attention" indeed. Sam is right on all counts (IMHO).
I guess Lex knows his audience, despite protestations about avoiding any feedback whatsoever. At least now we know he's a dishonest broker. The idea he'd ever push back on purely rightwing culture war nonsense to the same extent he simps for Trump here is absolutely unthinkable. Not much of a fan of Sam Harris but he's certainly constructed good arguments here, whether you agree with them or not.
thank you, exactly
Apotheosis of this simping is on the pod with Jeremy Suri, I think the title of the video is "jan 6 was a big deal". I was astounded at claims that Lex was making. This wasn't just "playing devils advocate" it's pure audience capture.
Exactly right. Unfortunately Lex got caught up in the Joe Rogan bro circlejerk. It's funny because lex and his accomplices complain about the mainstream media when they show bias for one side, and then proceed to repeat the exact same behavior. With all the bragging they do about how big Joe Rogan s audience is compared to CNN that they'd figure it out; they ARE the mainstream media now. The contrarianism and conspiracy theories are just the sugar that makes the medicine go down.
Ever notice that Lex never asks for empathy from those on the right?
Noticed!!
Yes.
Freedom and liberty are a form of empathy. The right already donates far more to charity volintarily. While the left lives to use the goverments monopy on force to express their "empathy" and "aultism" .
Because he has no empathy himself
The issue with the people who have supported Trump is that he is absolutely the wrong answer to many of the right questions they're wanting answers to....but many of his supporters are so desperate to get answers to those questions that there's nothing they won't tolerate, including existential risks to the breakdown of rule of law and basic democratic procedure, to get any answer to their questions. Additionally, there is a highly non-zero number of his supporters who are actually not equipped to assess the right answers to those questions and even less equipped to assess their own abilities or lack thereof to assess those answers.
Hum, you might answer some of my questions. I often wonder why those people voted against their own well-being as Trump’s and GOP’s policies are totally opposite of what will benefit those voters. I am just a curious and concerned Canadian.
@@freedomlife3623 That's been a puzzler in the US for the entire history of the country. Our own Civil War is a perfect embodiment of your question...one can hardly fathom what was going on in the mind of the typical VOLUNTEER infantryman in the southern army....poor, probably just a generation or two in his own family removed from indentured servitude, extremely unlikely to have owned slaves and in fact for the few agricultural products that he was able to harvest beyond his own subsistence needs actually competed against the products produced by the large plantations which were run by slave labor...and yet, the wealthy elites in the south were able to convince these poor, but easily agitated fools that the fight to protect slavery was their fight, getting hundreds of thousands of their poor, white neighbors to eagerly sign up to become cannon fodder, and sending tens of thousands of them to their deaths, to protect the lifestyle of the wealthy southern slaveowners. It's truly a puzzle but you see a lot of the same dynamics in today's GOP, with the use of moral panics and outrage motivating so many undereducated and ill-informed Americans to essentially cut taxes and regulation for the benefit of the most well off Americans. Truly, a puzzler.
@Freedom Life I hope you don't mind my interjection, but as humans have a tendency towards selfishness, a degree of which is associated with our base instincts for survival, I truly believe that politics can be boiled to its essence, which can best be described with the phrase "follow the money."
In order for the elite to maintain (i.e., increase) their wealth and power, the propaganziation of the masses is essential. The objective is to keep them fighting amongst themselves, and it is largely accomplished via state sponsored media. Fox News and the MAGA movement are good examples. Hitler did the same with the German people in the 1930s - millions of people were convinced that he was doing right by them. That is largely where the Trump and Hitler comparisons end because, as Sam Harris stated, Trump has no ideology beyond serving the ego. Honestly, I believe Trump was/is probably a greater threat than Hitler when you consider his climate policies and access to nuclear weapons, if not his complete incompetence and ignorance.
Still, their accomplishments were dependent on convincing millions of people to support policies that were detrimental to their self-interests. It is proof positive that anyone can be propagandized if they are repeatedly lied to long enough. These people are angry after experiencing 40+ years of increasing inequality and an unprecedented distribution of wealth from the working class to the elite. They want someone to blame, but they are barking up the wrong tree, so to speak, as the real enemy are the wealthy and powerful. Until they figure this out and direct their ire upward, nothing will change for the better.
That is the $500 billion question: how do we effectively shield people from the constant barrage of misinformation that is perpetuated by the elite?
However, I disagree with Lex and Sam about one thing - I think Trump has revealed just how strong our institutions actually are. Yes, there are definitely weaknesses that could be exploited by someone who has more wherwithal than Trump, but in the end, our democratic institutions withstood a coordinated assault by the most powerful network of people on the planet who exhausted all attempts to dismantle it.
The same can be said regarding Hitler and the Nazis. In the end, humans tend to follow their better angels.
@@nlabanokgood points...but remember those weren't highly educated men and they were told the north wanted to destroy them..I doubt they signed up to defend slavery because in today's dollars a single slave would cost a quarter million bucks...only the richest could buy slaves
Worship of Trump , has clearly become a cult, after seeing the people clamoring to put his half eaten pizza in their mouth, I mean , it's clearly a cult .
He wants to be a dictator. He’s running to stay out of jail. So done with the chaos.
It's always good to hear what a reasonable, knowledgeable, and thoughtful person like Sam Harris has to say about anything. Thanks and thumbs up.
Sam Harris seems deranged.
Are you being facetious?
@@Kenneth-ts7bpyeah he seems so wild and out of control 😂😂😂
@@Pntngbrn TDS?
Absolutely
I love how Lex is like, "Oh Sam you're my hero, please explain Trump derangement syndrome" and Sam is like "Sure, the derangement is how can you support the most morally corrupt person I can think of" LOLOLOLOLOL. Lex is proof number 1 that intelligent people can not be told the truth once they have an idea in their head
Yes, but I'd add: Not just 'an idea in their head,' but subscribers to their podcast, money in their pockets, millionaires
& billionaires in their contacts, etc.
Lex seems willfully obtuse when it suites his socio-economic ladder-climbing.
@@ritornelloandrefrainI bet you have watched Shawshank redemption !!😂😂
How’s he morally corrupt?
Exactly my take take on this video. It's hard to watch Lex just not understand at all what Sam is saying.
@@billyb4790OMG, really? He's been found guilty of rape in court, for which he shows no remorse but rather continues to verbally abuse the victim. He was found guilty of fraud for using money from a "Build the Wall" non-profit entity for his personal expenses. He referred to fallen American soldiers as SUCKERS. He buried his wife at his golf course for the tax advantages. He idolizes authoritarian leaders of other morally corrupt countries such as China, North Korea and Saudi Arabia.
Those are just a few of many. It would take too long to summarize all of them.
Would Lex be willing to do an episode on the Dominion and Smartmatic lawsuits against FoxNews
2 hours of “We just need to love each other more” and no addressing the blatant fascism at work.
Lol😁
that would be terrible business, he would alienate trump supporters if he didnt say the election was stolen. He would become an agent of the deep state. Doesnt matter how much he defends trump every other time, it only takes one slip up and your corrupt, just ask Mike Pence.
Probably not. Him being a computer scientist, and the hoops of absolutely ignorant shit he'd have to pretend to not know would probably be to obvious for his thickly veiled dishonesty.
Lex is a fascist. He was raised that way. Loves Putin and doesn’t give a fuck about the USA.
I can’t believe I only just discovered Sam Harris a week ago. almost everything I’ve heard from him so far is him verbalizing exactly how I feel. Thank you sir!
Bullseye on Trump
Back of his head
Sam does the Making Sense podcast, which makes sense, because he just made sense.
Love his podcast. Had been his subscriber since he started. Learned a lot and kept me sane during Trump in WH.
This guy Lex was twisting himself into a pretzel to defend Trump. I could literally hear his bones cracking.
that was just your 2 brain cells rubbing together
Sam couldn’t be more right. Spoken correctly. Vote. This is a true breaking point for America and the world. We can save it all if YOU participate, pay attention, and VOTE. It has never been more essential. Trump supporter (half the country) are def voting.
I think it's time we have the conversation that while 75 million people voted for Trump that isn't to say they all are still willing to support him in 24 it's maybe half that number.
I agree that voters are disenfranchised with the division in government.
This is what happens when to stop funding in a meaningful way, education, health care, agriculture. We should be outraged that any party would withhold these things.
All great society's fail at this point and we are no different! We are failing because we're not educated and therefore can't lead, we are not healthy therfor we have trouble attending school or work. Without fundamentals we will fail. This is not a government only problem it is a religion problem it is a people problem and it is exposing the structure that has always held Democracy in check! And so if you eat poorly and are poorly uneducated and follow only one voice on issues because you are cut off from other people who could be another voice or choice. We have sat back and allowed redistricting to occure it's only function is to keep people from voting, or people of colour are continually being disenfranchised. We have allowed racism a seat at the table.
And now we don't want to do the work to fix it, Trump was inevitable it was easy for voters to blame then accept. Trump isn't the problem he's the messenger, if we don't want to work at our republic no problem tireny awaits!! Either way it's up to us!
Tireny awaits huh. Ok
@@rsdouglass4Did you understand the message, misspellings aside? Tyranny DOES await, in the form of Don and all other traitors.
While I do think there were certainly large groups of people that did not see through Trump's con, what is far more disturbing to me is how many millions of people know exactly who he is and support him anyway, because either 1) They genuinely like having someone like that in power, or 2) They are willing to put someone like that in power, despite any other reservations they may have, because he bribed them on certain issues (usually abortion).
Or, 3) they are just like him and share his values.
@@OneEyedJacker What "values"? Be specific. These are now facts: He mocks the handicap, is repulsed by wounded soldiers, decries gold star families, slept w/ a porn star while his wife was pregnant w/ his son, he paid for that sex, he was found, by a jury, to have raped a woman and caused her harm, he has fraudulently misrepresented documents to benefit himself over decades, he paid someone to take his SAT exams, he sues people he disagrees with to stifle them because he's richer, and he lies on a regular basis.
Against the backdrop of who he IS, what he "values" be specific and state what values they share?
Private equity firms are bankrupting America. Trump dumped us out of the TPP at the behest of Russia (China's best neighbor) and ripped $4 billion in one day from farmers who spent years building those relationships, the wealthy are trying to shut down public education and eliminate Social Security, and fifty other major unreported problems and what are we having to worry about? Whether the greatest con man in the history of the galaxy will ever spend one night in jail. Fashionably "woke" or ultra-conservative, it's one giant sheetshow to keep us all distracted from trying to change anything, at least in any significant manner.
My advice? Take a deep breath, secure your home, and don't make any major purchases until sanity is restored. Of course, that means you'll probably be wearing the same clothes and driving the same car for the next twenty years, but the only way out of the game is to choose not to play it, or at least play it as little as possible to the point it no longer stays profitable. Find out who your friends are, the good ones, and keep them close, and contrary to TV, keep your enemies as far out of town as possible.
The law of the land is the rich get richer and the house always wins - as long as we keep playing the game. Vote and support minimum wage for politicians, make lobbying illegal, and allow anyone able to secure enough signatures to freely use the PUBLIC COMMONS AIRWAVES for a reasonable amount of political advertising so that it doesn't take so much money and political pandering to get elected.
Or they are awake and realize there was going to be no way to vote America out of tyranny in the future (now).
The harm done by media focus on the 'deplorables' voting for trump and their dehumanization instead of on the experiment that failed hard enough to enable him, will be studied for a century.
First president not to start a new war since Carter? hmmm
4.) There's a clear need for someone to be able to talk and form sentences?
I know of no good qualities or redeeming values of trump. Educate me.
what I'd like to see is someone as competent and articulate as Sam Harris be able to communicate to the Trump supporter in their own language and be persuasive enough to disillusion them.
It's easier to fool a man than to convince them that they have been fooled.
This !!!
Don't you mean "disabuse" them..... of the perception that Trump is qualified....... ?
@@warrenallsopp either works
Love the way he described the utopian incentive structure’s effect on bad people’s behavior.
Everyone is a bad person on certain angle
@@lawrencemalata1503
True but not everyone is wanting to be our president.
Very wise of Harris to highlight so clearly th Trump phenomenon. Brilliant remark on Trumps favour to society was only to highlight the holes without being clever enough to use them to kill democracy. So true that norms are more important than laws.
Remember when people thought W was not a smart guy? 😆😆 Good times.
About as dumb, dangerous since he handed Cheney all the power but still more likable and way less narcissistic.
@@Studeb, you can find Bush's old readings lists from his presidency. He was voracious. I don't think he's dumb, just unwise and unethical. With the education he was gifted he would have had to try not to pick up some decent things. I bet he knows a little Ancient Greek and could discuss Leo Strauss.
😂😂😂
W was a more dangerous idiot. he was a walking puppet. and the military industrial complex took full advantage of that. Trump is a less dangerous idiot. because his ego does not allow him to be turned into a puppet. he loves to do what W did, but his ego keeps blocking the puppeteers from taking control of him.
Referring to Trump as a “comedian” is an insult to actual comedians.
Not a fan of lex’s take
Empathy for Trump. Wtf?
@@roddyboethius1722 Trump has used up any empathy or goodwill that was allotted to him. He’s an objectively bad man. It’s been a legit year since I watched Friedman, I’m sick of his poor judgement and naivety.
@@jackcorbin6757 💯
Trump's policy: Why tell the truth when lies serve my purpose better?
LOL!!! Have you taken a look at what the current administration has done in the last 2.5 years? You are just as brainwashed as the Trump crowd.
To understand Trump's followers investigate Theordore Adorno's The Authoritarian Personality. Adorno was a Herman Jew and part of the Frankfurt school. He wisely got out of Hermany and emigrated to the US. After the war, American Jewish groups asked him to explain the Holocaust from a social psychology perspective.
The thinking was to try and understand if another Holocaust could happen in the US. Adorno came up with the Authoritarian Follower psychological profile. This is the type of person that would follow a Hitler type and be hostile to their leaders enemies.
John Dean in his book Conservatives Without Conscience says that the GOP paid $billions to think tanks after the beating they took after Nixon and Vietnam. The advice they got was to ad all of the authoritarian followers into the GOP. This is about 25 percent of the population. Evangelicals are authoritarian followers too. The GOP courted them by promising to overturn Roe. Now that Roe has been overturned the GOP is going after LGBTQI to jeep evangelicals riles up.
The GOP has a solid base of authoritarian followers but their overall numbers are declining. Look at MAGA as the last gasp for the GOP. It is either Trump and fascism or the party has nowhere left to go.
How refreshingly humble: “There are certain things that I don’t talk about on my podcast because I think I’m the wrong person to talk about it.” I really wish people like Joe Rogan would take that approach. We live in the era of “hey, I’m just asking questions and putting stuff out there and what do the experts know anyway?” Perhaps we should not talk publicly about things we don’t know much about?
Lex wants to view every person with some empathy, I can respect that since there very little of that going around. The problem is even if you should have empathy for a criminal, a person's sense of empathy should side with the victims over the criminal. Otherwise we're missing what true justice is.
Morality has a side and so does integrity...not blind adherence to a belief - that's dogma. I'm talking about something much easier to understand. Lex engages in the same BS that Joe Rogan and countless others due where they launch into these false equivalency justifications about everything they do or what others say even when they know it is wrong; it's almost always done for views, money, etceteras. Honorable men and women realize this. That doesn't mean we have to agree with everything someone says.
I truly believe that destructive sociopaths do not deserve empathy. You can recognize what they are, and sort of thank whatever thing you are spiritual towards that you aren’t that person. But when people actively and overtly seek to harm and make other people suffer, and they have no experience with possessing a conscience, then they just do not deserve it back. I don’t know how else to say that. I don’t think people who are truly at the bottom in terms of antisocial behavior have any hope of improving. Trump and people like him, especially nearing their age in anyway, are never gonna get better. They’re never gonna turn the page or really get past the place they’ve come to. They just wither away and then they die.
@@MrWorldasmaya Lex tries to prop himself up as some kind of "intellectual podcaster" as opposed to Rogan's conspiracy theory podcast show --- but he's very weak when it comes to analyzing underlying themes and core tenents of the subject matter he's talking about --- he keeps defending Trump but fails to see the vast immorality of a lifelong crook and fraudster the sinister intentions of the MAGA Swamp
Lex and Joe, to your point, use false equivalency. But additionally, they are both pretty empathic and while I find that honorable, the truth is, they're speaking to millions of people. Many of whom that do not have the faculties to parse put what is what. People that think Joe is qualified to comment on astrophysics, virology or any other deep science. So, they want to hear the other side of the story l, but then take it too far and Lex prides himself on not pushing back hard because of his caring, empathetic style. And the average intellect gets very confused.
there is literally nothing good about trump. therein lies the problem. he has no empathy for anyone or anything... he cares solely for himself and his gratification, which typically comes at the expense of others.
“Trump is an evil Chance Gardener” Brilliant!
100% the best analogy ever on Drumpf
*chauncey gardener
@@susuho675 If you care to search Wikipedia for “Being There” you will find that Chauncey Gardener was an American football player. The protagonist of Being There is Chance Gardener.
We should be well informed that DJT isn't just a maleficent narcissist and egotistical, but he is the best President Russia ever had! He is trying to overthrow the Government and all of our protective services, undermining scientists for a very sinister plan! The Republicans plan is to achieve total power authoritarianism, and their fascist beliefs. The banning books, history, taking funds from libraries, public schools, encouraging attacks on school board, teachers, not wanting to stop school shootings is to make us ignorant so we don't challenge them! They are trying to end democracy and become a third world country! They are teaching their base to be against efforts to fix climate change and creating no trust in science so they won't understand that we need to regulate the Big oil & billion dollar corporations that are damaging the earth and air to get richer! They use them to attack the people who are trying to decrease or slow down global warming the top 1% are talking about defunding our FBI police military intelligence judicial system and creating distrust so their base will fight against those entities for them making it easier to dismantle! Fascism authoritarian nationalists White rich power new world order is their goal and they will eliminate anyone who gets in their way! It is very dangerous and very scary! Don't make lite of it! Understand what they're doing bring lite to it you have the platform to do it please Sam Harris
I saw that movie!
If we were to dismiss all of Trump’s crimes, serial sexual assaults, business swindles, violation of the Logan Act, calls for violence, and threats against his opposition, would he as an intellectually depleted and incompetent of still be the one you want to represent and run the country? Not by any stretch.
Lex looked so disappointed when he realized that Trump doesn't have any good qualities! 😂
Lex is very smart. He has known that for a long time. He's a shill because he's literally trying to save face with his friends, in the fact of data driven logic. Which he literally specializes in. He's dishonest in such a fake innocent way, that it's probably more dishonest than outright lying.
thats what makes lex special!!
he thought there must be some redeeming qualities EVEN IN DONALD TRUMP!!!!
🤠
I miss everything being cheap and not having new wars started up.
@@SvendleBerries we would have had our MOTHER OF ALL WARS, except the iranians did nt bite....... when the orange idiot assassinated their general without any provocation ........
First 60 seconds of exposure to Trump is more than sufficient to know Trump is human sewage. And a waste of oxygen that can better be used by bacteria to digest sewage. ---- I grew up in New York (upstate a little from the city). Maybe measuring people FAST is a skill you learn young when con-men are everywhere trying to sell you something.
New York is a cesspool. How could you tell the difference?
Good qualities of Trump? Come on Lex.
Republicans left their self respect a loooong time ago. That ship has sailed.
See, the problem with Sam is that his entire basis for criticizing Trump is personal. I agree with everything he says on that end. But he should be destroying Trump’s policies, yet he’s here saying he agrees with 80% of them. Thats insane. Categorizing Trump’s immigration policy as agreeable is fucking nuts.
This reveals some real vulnerability in Lex's judgement.
I would NOT want to be roasted by Sam. It would DESTROY my self-esteem.
Lex always sounds like he just woke up
And yet he is still asleep
The key word is " corruption " . Follow the money and youll find the problems .
A version of Trump with a brain is truly freightening
Thankfully he doesn't have one.
There are a million reasons to dislike Trump, but claiming that he is stupid is just laughable.
@@flavio7180 to steal a phrase from Pat Cooper, Trump is the genius of himself. He knows how to get reality to bend to his will, which is a thankfully rare talent. But when it comes to domestic and foreign affairs, the man is a simpleton.
"A version of Trump with a brain is truly freightening"
we already have that!!! ======= its called PUTIN
You just described Ramaswarmy.
Lex honestly I usually watch both(right and left) sides to a conversation you have but you seem to hit back harder to left leaning guests. It’s no secret who your friends are just ask if you could lean in on the other guests just as much. You seem to talk down to people who don’t lean right
Love your stuff, keep up the good work man!
>You seem to talk down to people who don’t lean right
It's getting harder and harder not to
Conservatism simply exists less in the well educated.
@@humanuponearth yeah, so educated they can’t define what a woman is and think a cloth mask is effective bio-tech.
@@monkeywrench4169 it’s ok. You can admit to be stupid and wrong. It’s the first step to recovery.
Something interesting about commenters here.
If you act critical towards trump they instantly and incessantly bring up Biden. I don’t think people critical of trump ime like Biden either.
I've never heard someone use the word "empathy" so frequently while simultaneously failing to correctly apply it
I personally feel the empathy .
In fact I always feel empathy for those who have been conned into believing outright liars when cults form around them.
Although when its as obvious as Trump's buffoonery it does get difficult to carry that empathy very far.
TDS as a claim is just a defense mechanism of the cultists and another piece of propaganda.
Not every critic of Trump has TDS. Not every criticism of Trump is invalid. But TDS exists. To not see that is delusional.
Sam Harris seems to be describing the societies of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, where the worlds happiest people reside. These social democracy countries and others like them such as New Zealand and Australia are an anathema to the good people of the US
Don’t forget your neighbor up North. We are so relived that America got rid of Trump here in Canada. But sad how much damage he had caused to your country.
Norway is notoriously xenophobic, does that align with your fantasy as well?
the problem with america is that its a land of immigrants which has no real social safety net
immigrants come in work hard - work without a safety net - become rich and financially secure
the locals and grand children of immigrants who don't work as hard, lose out and bemoan their lowly status thereof
they look at hard-working risk-taking immigrants and resent the success of the later
hard-working risk-taking locals don't complain, they have built in advantages over their immigrant equivalents
I thought Australia was struggling with Populism too. I heard Rupert Murdoch has done a number on their Boomers too
33 clips from this podcast alone. Just need like 20 more Lex.
Sam Harris is thoughtful and well spoken. I share his views but he expresses his views way better than I could. Thanks for sharing. I will seek out more conversations with Sam Harris and look up his podcasts.
This interview was quite embarrassing for Lex.
No it wasn't
@johnnastrom9400 the vast consensus is that it was, and his base is more conservative than liberal so that's saying something
Just remember Hitler failed the first time around too.
Well he failed the second time too he just took a lot of people down with him. But I get your point. He succeeded in installing fascism in a previously fairly liberal democracy. This is where America is headed...no matter who they get to do it.
Scary thought. Even if he does lose he taught others what to do. Shore up our Constitution!
@@beckydavis1820I try to be as open minded as possible, but open-mindedness is no excuse to fail to make necessary moral judgements. I used to think Trump was a big clown. I will even agree that the mainstream media was unfair to him in certain ways. But his speech has grown even more unhinged and Angry recently. I really believe that Trump winning will be the end of this country.
Two groups: those who prefer to be unknowingly manipulated and the who prefer to be lead.
Which do u think you are?
I came here from a facebook post that said. if you replace every time he says Trump with Biden there are actual poof or fact that backs up what he's saying. ..fucking insane the time we live in.
Lex doesn’t seem to get it. I couldn’t fathom where his questions came from half the time. I wonder if he spliced the wrong interview onto his questions. Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
It's hard to admit your wrong. Even for these supposedly free-thinking individualists.
You know what. That’s so true. I kept trying to figure out if I missed something
Lex' Brain: "Must ..... not.......offend...... Trump supporters........"
Don’t bite the hand that feeds me!!
Im sure these comments will be logical and respectful!
People simping for sam "im really smart, trust me" Harris is pathetic
@@strategery101 As you dick ride chump. Oh the irony! 🤣
Ya these comments better be logical like when Sam said the corpses of dead children are not as bad as Trump University. Anything less is unforgivable.
@@strategery101 My money is on Sam being much smarter than you. With BA Stanford and PhD UCLA, I'm more inclined to agree with his reasoning, and analysis, than yours. In fact I'd go as far to say, that he obviously has empathy, whereas you appear to have zero moral compass. You want pathetic, look in the mirror!
@@flipgsp unfortunately, what Sam said was more like “if hunter Biden (not the presidential candidate joe Biden) committed unspeakable crimes, that does not make Joe Biden (not his son, just a lame old politician) less viable than Trump (a man that has been a known malevolent narcissist and incompetent jerk for 3 decades).” Sam was abundantly clear and sober about Trump’s qualities and negative influence to the extent that he even described the pathological support for trump that you demonstrate and predictably could not possibly reflect on before getting pathetically defensive.
Supreme irony in the fact that Trump, as devoid of redeeming moral value as Harris claims, should be the one to break him. It's never been Sam's evaluation of the man that led him to the fringes, but rather what he's claimed is acceptable to sacrifice in bringing him down.
Fragile it is when the person in charge of protecting the house set it on fire
At the 17:10 mark, "entertaining ourselves to death". Harris comes very close to quoting the title of the book, Amusing Ourselves to Death: public discourse in the age of showbusiness (1985). Neil Postman's excellent book is more relevant now than it's ever been.
infinite jest
He has probably read the book, it’s amazing.
Lex doesn't get it just like millions of our fellow Americans. The only answer is to vote.
At the Hunter laptop point of the interview, there is a point to be made about how our society views private life and public life. Much like the Clintons, the Bidens have been in politics for 50+ years, and you don't succeed in that culture without undergoing extreme scrutiny. The smallest failing becomes frontpage fodder. As a private citizen, however, you can avoid all that and simply burnish a public image without fear of your personal life being exposed by anyone but the Paparazzi. This is why most celebrities avoid politics. Trump worked tirelessly for decades burnishing just such a superficial image from the safety of private life. The instant he threw his hat in the ring, that changed for him. His true character and his past would inevitably catch up with him. Like Icarus, he flew higher and higher, until he flew too close to the sun. The problem of corruption in politics isn't something that you can nail down on a single person, because it's deeply cultural and the media only shows the surface.
Very sound analysis. That's why most Hollywood actors and pro athletes keep their mouths shut. They could lose everything they have. And you make a great point that Trump was able to fly under the radar of scrutiny for decades because people thought he was just a clown, like people initially thought of Hitler.