I rarely comment in a video but my Vincent that was one of the best and clearest comparison I've ever seen. Not just thoughts but actual evidence and explanations. Spot on mate!
Never clicked on a video faster. Vincent, I can't tell you just how much I appreciate you doing this comparison. I've just smashed the like button so, so hard. I've linked the review to a gaming forum too.
well sadly the clowns get more subs people want easy words and small video this happen also to gamer nexus the best channel that review pc hardware and benchmark and test it they got small amount of subs too :/
He said exactly what everyone on the threads have been saying all along. Slight improvement on the x900f over x900e, but it drops brightness when X motion clarity is applied. If motion isn't important than x900e is basically the same. X930e is just a better display for clarity and brightness, aswell as local dimming and blacks. No surprises really.
65x930e day 3 impressions: 1. Just WOW every minute watching it 2. Interface is really fast, everything is smooth, switching from movie/youtube to cable in 1 second. It loads 500 movies from ext HDD in 3 seconds, I can browse through all of them in 3 seconds, 2 seconds to load movie, preview is instant, 1 second to go back, I really don't know how it can get better than this 3. The motion is incredible even if I use medium settings like smoothness on 3, I seen it struggles with top-bottom panning but such scenes are rare, it feels so smooth, is unreal 4. Many settings, I noticed settings are saved by app, I can have youtube video settings and separate netflix video settings 5. Wide viewing angles, this reminded me about a 2014 OLED I had, 80% like OLED, it beat the crap out of previous LG IPS from 2013. Being so bright, it doesn't lose details in many angles. 6. Sound is clean and many settings regarding sound, but I don't care about it, I use a 7.1 system. It didn't require a setup, it loaded instantly with the tv. 7. Too heavy, probably the heaviest TV you can have, heavier by 7kg vs Z9D 8. Panel is angled {upper part is closer to the wall) 9. Upscaling is amazing, I used only cable tv, movies at 720p/1080p and netflix and they look incredible, don't even tested 4k, I need my pants on 10. Remote very easy to use, a con is that is too directional and I can't use it from slight off-axis 11. HDD doesn't turn off with the TV. 12. Turning on TV goes to last app instantly (in 3-4 seconds after pressing power) 13. Switching cable programms is fast, changing volume is smooth with included speakers, a little choppy when used with a receiver 14. Dark sides and darker corners, nothing I worry about 15. I use movies with subtitles, the subtitles are so clean with no blooming or clouding, it's super sharp 16. Power cable of this TV is a joke, no power brick, only 1 meter cable or something, it's like a cheap boombox radio power cable from the 60s, no earth, I know it's enough for 250W but still, the worst part of this TV. I have an alarm clock that has a better cable than this.
I own the X930e. This tv is the most beautiful piece of equipment you could own. It’s better than anything else. The 65 inch is a completely satisfying experience. Every time you watch it you are in for a delight. Immersion into experience is incredible. Beyond words.
Hi I am confused between the 55'and 65' versions of this TV. I need it for my bedroom where I'll be sitting about 9 to 10 feet from the TV. Would you say that nothing less than 65' inch would do to take palpable benefit from this TV?
@@anandkumarjaggi I have the 65" X930E and sit 8' from it - also in my bedroom (it's perfect). So yeah, if you'll be seated 9 or 10' from it you'll need the 65" for immersive viewing. 55" won't cut it at those distances.
Good vid, I recently upgraded from my Q6F to the x900F and the difference is substantial in favour of the Sony x900F. I'm very impressed with the X900F and I'm glad I watched this video because it shows that the x900f also better than the x900e especially for gaming!.
We now have the XE90 and XF90 back in store - we will be leaving Vincent's calibration settings on these TVs, if you would like to purchase one, then please give us a call on the number in the video - of course, we only have one of each, so it will be first come, first served. Thank you, and once again thanks to Vincent for a great shootout video.
Amazing comparison, you are among the best (if not the best of all) in tv reviews. I am an happy owner of a 65xe93, Amazing tv. Hope Sony Will still support this tv in the future with updates (the dolby vision update is near release)
Kevin Coskun Dolby Vision works over hdmi. Devices need to be updated to the newer Dolby vision profile that Sony uses. The Apple TV 4K supports Dolby vision with the Sony TVs for example. Other devices have not been updated to my knowledge.
ericimi not a big deal for me since the advantages of Dolby vision isn't fully bieng utlizized we need 4000 nits right im pretty sure the only advantage is the sampling
Just ordered my 930e from Richer sounds, spoke to Ashley who even went to find the best price possible for me, so couldn’t be more happier! Although I live in London, they can deliver nationwide and I thought best to support hdtvtest and make the Purchase from that branch :). Now I just someone to come calibrate it 🧐
excellent video, and great job showing many examples of subtitles and opening credits during your blooming analysis. Good to see blooming isn't too bad on the X900F.
Speechless in front of this high end comparison work ! I recognize your professionnal side ! I wish a long life to HDTVTest ! Thanks a lot Vincent, a real touch of a guenine talent =)
I just came from 50 years into the future: Breaking News just in In the year 2068, Quantum Apotheosis will come out with a youtube video claiming the 900E to still be the best TV that year
Thank you so much dude. After watching, I have not a slightest bit of buyer's s remorse. I got the 900f and learned to appreciate it much more now with this in depth review.
Thank you very much Vincent for your efforts in having comparison videos, which is a better way to choose between various models. You're the only on the Internet who does these videos which is very helpful to potential customers and AV enthusiasts and I always look forward to it.
This is the best review in very detail technical quality. You totally help me to decide between XE and XF that no one can explain better. Please keep continue a great review. Cheers!
I just upgraded from a Toshiba 50l711u18 (which was a surprisingly good panel) to the x900f here in Canada and I'm blown away with how good it performs with my PS4 Pro and movies. I will be watching all the sports on it as well whenever things get back to normal and just wanted to say I am pleased my screen ranks as the best for what I got it for and how thorough of a review this is. Thanks HDTVTest!
modernwize Hey Joey, thanks for your info, you and Vincent are doing the best TV videos on YT. There’s one thing I hope you can clarify with the X900F, the Rtings review mentions overshoot issues with the X900F, and no other review has mentioned anything about this. Have you noticed any problems with this on the X900F, particularly in gaming? Thanks.
Danny Staip Yes, I have seen it during a few dark scenes with fast transitions / fast motion. I’ll recheck our x900f tonight to see if its persistent. I wonder if Vin would mind checking his x900f before we communicate this as a common defect.
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for highlighting the frame drop issue with the XE90, I am currently in the process of exchanging that model for the XF90 because of this issue, and I'm really happy that motion is improved on the XF90.
Very well articulated and backed with solid examples. Your testing was thorough and well chosen with the most emphasis on areas that typically push panels to their furthest limits!
Motion clarity is always the most important feature for me. I really want to see the HDR and Dolby Vision thing play out a little more before I decide to get my next tv. Part of me thinks I should just wait for microLED but that might be a little too far away.
Superb intro Vincent and well done Richer Sounds Manchester for making this possible. I'd always buy through them and have for years bought from the Reading branch.
Well I have the 900E and it looks amazing to me but I guess I don't have the eye of some viewers or critics. The motion on the 900F does sound pretty awesome though.
There's a reason about 7,500 people user reviews garner an overall 4.8 out of 5 rating. It's an all-around great looking TV. Like you said, it looks amazing in your home and that's what counts. And honestly, a more fair comparison to do is the 900e vs TV's from other makers in its price/spec range. This is like comparing a Toyota Corolla to the Camry and Avalon.
Just to clarify that the XE93 isn't just edge lit. It has slim backlight drive plus, which is essentially a four layer edge light system. probably the most advanced one on the market. Most edge lit tv are just single strip and have many less zones.
Yes i said that in my post. But the reason I make this clarification is because the ignorant amongst the Samsung community will claim that having an Edge lit TV is better than a backlit one. When infact this particular arrangements of Edge lit LEDS is not conventional.So yes its Edge lit, but its not simply Edge lit, its more than that.
Sanookdi well it does have a light guiding plate about 2/3rds down the screen which stretches across the whole TV. Plus rows of LEDs on the top and bottom. So I'd say it's more of a hybrid.
No one should regret buying the 900e. It was literally the best bang for your buck 4K that could compete with high end models without the high end price. Of course technology improves every year, but the 900e is still an incredible TV that should be shown off! I couldn't find a justification to buy the 930e for nearly $400 more in-store. Even with a retailer's calibration, my eyes couldn't justify that huge price increase.
Vincent, you are awesome. Your demeanour is very level, almost sedate, but you are clearly very passionate about TV reviewing. I think it showed through well in this video. Keep up the good work!
As someone who just bought x900e I'm glad Vincent put this video out. I know the TV I bought wasn't top of it's class, but do note that Vincent had to exaggerate the exposure level of the video and slow down the recording to even show the faults of this X900e model. In my opinion, even though the x900e is a mid-range set; from it's design to it's performance and price, it feels premium. It doesn't support DV, but I've seen it IRL side by side with HDR10 and it didn't blow me away. The HDR performance is good enough and the detail I get when playing on my PS4 Pro is incredible. If you have the money, go for the X930e, but if you don't, then don't sit on the x900e unless you're really need DV support. Now I sit and wait for QA meltdown.
Great video Vincent, I got my 55XE9305 for £80 cheaper and paid £1188 which was amazing deal so I'm over the moon I snapped it up before it disappeared :)
I got the 55XE9305 for 995€ on black friday. It was actually a pricing error which they fixed within a couple of hours, but they let me have it for the price. Not bad :)
I wondering if we support hdtvtest and order from richer sounds that they can give a good price, I’ve been to my local one but sales team there are bad and have no idea about TVs, they so easily recommend Oleds and how it’s the best The X930 on display didn’t work and I didn’t get a good impression.
Fantastic review, sir! Very well done - extremely thorough and easy to understand. Thanks for doing this! I'm planning to pick up the X900F because of your review (and I've watched dozens on it).
Silly OctoPussie The XE93 has lower input lag than the XE90 for 4k gaming on the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X...The XE90 only wins if you game at 1080p on the Nintendo Switch.
Thanks for the video Vincent. Really professional and informative. I've already gone with the XF90 (65" version) for a brilliant price of £1399.99 including a 5 year manufacturer's warranty from Sony, but I was still interested in this video comparison all the same. I've had a very quick look, and I'm not certain, but I think the other two are now unavailable to buy brand new anyway?! And since I'm upgrading from a faulty Hisense H65M7000 which I picked up in July 2017 new for an amazing £849.99 (and for which I will be receiving a full refund), I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the XF90 by comparison to what I have now. Thanks again, really professional information and advice. 👍
Because of you Vincent I now have a second TV and still haven't got rid of my first one yet. Yes OK it's a brilliant TV and I am extremely happy with it because it is pretty close to everything I ever wanted in a 4K HDR TV. But that's besides the point!
whenever I want to buy a tv, come to your channel. you are simply awesome dude. great work. btw even if I live in Bangladesh, I bought my whole home theater system with Av receiver and other stuffs from Richer Sound. they are great.
It should be obvious You Tube isnt anywhere near a perfect window but there are people who dont understand this same goes with audio sound it cannot be the same as the person doing a review can hear it . Thank You MR Vincent for another good review .
Most informative for TV buying decisions! Was making a choice between the 2017 X930E, 2018 X900F and the newest 2019 X950G, all 55-inch and this covered two of them. If money were no object I'd be buying the X950G. It's $300 USD more than the X930E, and the X900F is $200 more. The price difference between the X900F and X950G is too close, so consideration of the X900F was dropped. This video plus your most recent review on the X950G sold me on the X930E. I've got other priorities for the $300 and it will give me what I'm looking for in watching movies from a mix of NTSC DVD, (2k) Blu-ray and 4k UHD. Nearly all are Blu-ray and will be upscaled. Edit: Just received the X930E this week and set it up. It is *heavy*! In the brown two-layer freight shipping carton it's about 100 lbs. Out of that it's down to about 90 lbs. in just the retail packaging carton. Once set up with stand it's down to 80 lbs. - still noticeably heavier than the newer and most other 55". Also significantly heavier than the 46" 2010 model year KDL-46EX600 Bravia LED it's replacing. I'm impressed with the upscaling from 1080p to 4k, the contrast and the color space. Experimenting with some of the basic picture settings and you are exactly right, it's a light canon if the ambient light setting is turned off and brightness isn't adjusted from default. WOW! Had to dial that down some as it nearly blew me out of the room. Not only is the larger picture a welcome change, the clarity of image and color is dramatic.
I've just bought the 65 inch xf9005. I game on PC at native 4K and the set really meets my needs. I've read that the 9305 has terrible problems with reflections and looks awful in bright rooms. Excellent video. Many thanks.
Nope. X930E has no problems with reflections and looks terrific in bright rooms. You have a lesser TV than mine since you went with X900F and I went with 65 inch X930E.
Wow I don't own a Sony TV but have to Admin seriously good review big well done and thank you. Very interesting point last year XE93 and XF90.. And to think XE93 is edge lite panel
When doing the blooming test i would do it much more carefully since they differ in maximum brightness, and mostly peak brightness, the ideal video scenario would be using the "pontual" exposure of the white box on each set instead of maintaining the same camera(exposure) configurations for each, the x900F felt like it was the one with the most blooming, does not matter if the video must be viewed and heard at the same time many people will not understand it or put it out of context.
We bought the X930E just before Christmas, and we're very impressed by its performance. We don't use it for gaming, so we weren't concerned with any lag issues. However, we do watch a lot on Verizon FIOS which isn't in 4k (and not likely to be anytime soon), so the upscaling ability of the X1 Extreme processor were important. I manually installed the DolbyVision update when it was released in January, and DolbyVision content on NetFlix looks amazing. I don't yet have a 4k BluRay player, so I'm waiting until the HDMI/DolbyVision issue gets sorted out. The X900F didn't come out until the 2018 CES and it looks like a big improvement on the X900E. Pricewise, right now in the US, the 65 inch X900F is selling for around $200 more than the same size X930E.
Whew... that's a lot of white noise for the first 4:34 of the video but great comparo & appreciate that you did this!! You're a credit to the hobby (and profession!) Liked & subscribed!!
Great informative video that’s with facts and fair comparisons (properly calibrated). I have a OLED but if I have a choice from this video it be the 930E.
i actually took back my 65 c7 for this tv not because the c7 wasnt a great tv but becaise i have the c6 from 2016 models and other then a slight better color representaion and the fact theres no 3d im telloling you and anyone else tgere is no visible brightness difference i only got the c7 because lg claimed it was 25 percent brighter that was just a lie atleast om my c7 compared to my c6.. i will say there is less noise in dirty screen effect but i wanted a brighter display for my living room as it is bright but i will say if i didnt already have a c6 i would of kept the c7 over the sony 930e but i want it for gaming and brightness for hdr and the sonybis better at both in my oppiinion... and cheaper
So glad I went for the XE93, on your advice from a previous video may I add. Have a PS4 pro so the lag time is not a problem. Bought it from Richers as well and they we’re great. Got a small problem with picture settings switching from iPlayer to HDMI 2 (PS4), seems to keep the same settings, can’t work it out! Again, keep up the good work Vincent!
@HDTVTest Hi Vincent, Based on this video, I purchased a XE93 from Richer Sounds Manchester (even though I live in Leeds). Unfortunately the one you calibrated had been sold. I was gutted. Keep up the good work!
I’m really glad I found this channel and Vincents reviews! Extremely well presented and informative. Seems like I have been around the block and back again trying to find the best tv/price/size for my needs . Started looking at Lg OLEDs but went by a Best Buy and decided I could “live” without an oled for now for various reasons (price, retention possibility, thought they looked great of course but not worth the extra expenditure). Then i started looking at Lg, vizio, and TCL LEDs and ended up at the Sony’s after seeing some comparisons over at RTINGS... And I’m GLAD I did. I was sure I was going to get the 900F especially after seeing Vincents review full review... Then I saw this shootout and I was very conflicted. Like others have mentioned the 930E wins out slightly in almost every category. I was just about to order one but then I saw his review for the 930E and there was one thing in that review he did not mention in this shoot, out and that is the fact that the 930 has top and bottom lit LED (as opposed to side) and that there can be noticeable blooming when letterboxing. He showed specific examples from The Dark Night with lamps near the top of the frame where you can see the blooming continue up to the edge of the screen. I realize (just like in this video) that the results seen on camera may be exaggerated, but this is something that would drive me nuts if I couldn’t un see it once seen type of thing (since I watch a lot of movies). I’m coming from a Pioneer SC-LX5090 (their last Plasma in the EU)which was my main TV since the day it was released and only sold due to moving back to the states... so am hoping to come as close to that as possible without having to buy an OLED just yet. So, Looks like the 900f is the best choice for me at the moment based on the non oled sets I have researched so far. Now just not sure if I want to buy now or hope it goes on sale for Black Friday.
Sony 900f vs. Samsung Q70R 65" TV for watching Satellite TV and movies on Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Apple TV in a dimly lit room? Thanks for the very informative videos!
Wow this was very informative - I was very surprised when Rtings said there was virtually no difference between the 900e and the 900f and that you should just buy whatever was cheaper!!!!
Very clear comparison review, thanks. These are the final three TVs I am choosing between. The XF90 wins for sports then! I'll be calling Richer Sounds tomorrow 😀
if sports is you main viewing, then you'd be stupid to pay that much more for anything above an X900E. Sports look flawless on the X900E...movies, not so much.
taradead "that much more"... it's really not that much more and x900f is taking the lead in all fronts. He is not stupid if he gets x900f. I just bought x900f and it is the better choice. It exceeds in all even input lag. 1080p only 12.9ms @120hz.
vincet said fast motion sports such as soccer or hockey or fast action games such as racing or maybe even some twitch shooters... but that was it not all sports and deff not all games.
Something to keep in mind is in Vincent's review of the 930E he mentions how blooming is an issue in the letterbox bars because of the edge lighting and the fact it's from the top and bottom of the set as opposed to the usual sides. I didn't see any mention of that here, so just to keep things in perspective, it's not all peaches and cream.
chith siriphat the camera was overexposed. What you're seeing is not relevant while watching exactly. X900e has very minimal blooming but it spreads across a wider area. X900f is similar to the X900e with more pronounced blooming. X930 has stronger blooming because of the high brightness focused on a smaller area, as it has better local dimming zones. You mainly see the blooming in HDR content, lesser resolution is very faint.
Very useful. I respect your assessments. You made up my mind which TV to get I've been reading about the nu8000 and Sony 900f I'm going to go with the Sony 900f 55 in thanks for your review very enlightening
I rarely comment in a video but my Vincent that was one of the best and clearest comparison I've ever seen. Not just thoughts but actual evidence and explanations. Spot on mate!
Never clicked on a video faster.
Vincent, I can't tell you just how much I appreciate you doing this comparison. I've just smashed the like button so, so hard. I've linked the review to a gaming forum too.
Smashed that button as well
Vincent knows his stuff. Love watching his videos.
Slam dunk !!! Absolute quality work with facts. Thank you Vincent. Really appreciated
This guy deserves so much more subscribers. This is exactly what I was looking for. Great job!
well sadly the clowns get more subs people want easy words and small video this happen also to gamer nexus the best channel that review pc hardware and benchmark and test it they got small amount of subs too :/
I'm glad I have the 900F.. let me tell u, ITS ALWAYS BUTTERY SMOOTH WITH NO JUDDER! INCREDIBLE!
He said exactly what everyone on the threads have been saying all along. Slight improvement on the x900f over x900e, but it drops brightness when X motion clarity is applied. If motion isn't important than x900e is basically the same. X930e is just a better display for clarity and brightness, aswell as local dimming and blacks. No surprises really.
65x930e day 3 impressions:
1. Just WOW every minute watching it
2. Interface is really fast, everything is smooth, switching from movie/youtube to cable in 1 second. It loads 500 movies from ext HDD in 3 seconds, I can browse through all of them in 3 seconds, 2 seconds to load movie, preview is instant, 1 second to go back, I really don't know how it can get better than this
3. The motion is incredible even if I use medium settings like smoothness on 3, I seen it struggles with top-bottom panning but such scenes are rare, it feels so smooth, is unreal
4. Many settings, I noticed settings are saved by app, I can have youtube video settings and separate netflix video settings
5. Wide viewing angles, this reminded me about a 2014 OLED I had, 80% like OLED, it beat the crap out of previous LG IPS from 2013. Being so bright, it doesn't lose details in many angles.
6. Sound is clean and many settings regarding sound, but I don't care about it, I use a 7.1 system. It didn't require a setup, it loaded instantly with the tv.
7. Too heavy, probably the heaviest TV you can have, heavier by 7kg vs Z9D
8. Panel is angled {upper part is closer to the wall)
9. Upscaling is amazing, I used only cable tv, movies at 720p/1080p and netflix and they look incredible, don't even tested 4k, I need my pants on
10. Remote very easy to use, a con is that is too directional and I can't use it from slight off-axis
11. HDD doesn't turn off with the TV.
12. Turning on TV goes to last app instantly (in 3-4 seconds after pressing power)
13. Switching cable programms is fast, changing volume is smooth with included speakers, a little choppy when used with a receiver
14. Dark sides and darker corners, nothing I worry about
15. I use movies with subtitles, the subtitles are so clean with no blooming or clouding, it's super sharp
16. Power cable of this TV is a joke, no power brick, only 1 meter cable or something, it's like a cheap boombox radio power cable from the 60s, no earth, I know it's enough for 250W but still, the worst part of this TV. I have an alarm clock that has a better cable than this.
I have the 930e and love it! I swear if you’re sitting directly in front of the 930e the black levels are OLED like!
I own the X930e. This tv is the most beautiful piece of equipment you could own. It’s better than anything else. The 65 inch is a completely satisfying experience. Every time you watch it you are in for a delight. Immersion into experience is incredible. Beyond words.
Hi I am confused between the 55'and 65' versions of this TV. I need it for my bedroom where I'll be sitting about 9 to 10 feet from the TV. Would you say that nothing less than 65' inch would do to take palpable benefit from this TV?
@@anandkumarjaggi I have the 65" X930E and sit 8' from it - also in my bedroom (it's perfect). So yeah, if you'll be seated 9 or 10' from it you'll need the 65" for immersive viewing. 55" won't cut it at those distances.
This is the greatest tv review I’ve seen . Very clear and precise . Awesome man
Great video Vincent. A lot of us here appreciate the effort and time you put in to make this. Thank you! 👏👏👏👏😉
The motion improvement on the X900F makes it the best of the bunch.
Wow, glad I bought my 65" 930E last year.
Good vid, I recently upgraded from my Q6F to the x900F and the difference is substantial in favour of the Sony x900F. I'm very impressed with the X900F and I'm glad I watched this video because it shows that the x900f also better than the x900e especially for gaming!.
I dumped a Samsung JS9000 for a 930e. Never again samesung.
We now have the XE90 and XF90 back in store - we will be leaving Vincent's calibration settings on these TVs, if you would like to purchase one, then please give us a call on the number in the video - of course, we only have one of each, so it will be first come, first served. Thank you, and once again thanks to Vincent for a great shootout video.
Amazing comparison, you are among the best (if not the best of all) in tv reviews. I am an happy owner of a 65xe93, Amazing tv. Hope Sony Will still support this tv in the future with updates (the dolby vision update is near release)
nemuyume the Dolby vision update is out already . Not sure if it works via HDMI yet .
Dolby vision update happened but not threw HDMI yet
Kevin Coskun Ridiculous , isn't it ?
Kevin Coskun Dolby Vision works over hdmi. Devices need to be updated to the newer Dolby vision profile that Sony uses. The Apple TV 4K supports Dolby vision with the Sony TVs for example. Other devices have not been updated to my knowledge.
ericimi not a big deal for me since the advantages of Dolby vision isn't fully bieng utlizized we need 4000 nits right im pretty sure the only advantage is the sampling
Just ordered my 930e from Richer sounds, spoke to Ashley who even went to find the best price possible for me, so couldn’t be more happier! Although I live in London, they can deliver nationwide and I thought best to support hdtvtest and make the Purchase from that branch :). Now I just someone to come calibrate it 🧐
Great comparison, I bought the XF90 last week and love it so far.
how it's doing in gaming, 1080p particulary?
This comparison is so comprehensive and clear which helps me a great deal on my choice between the models. Thank you so much for the great work.
excellent video, and great job showing many examples of subtitles and opening credits during your blooming analysis. Good to see blooming isn't too bad on the X900F.
Fantastic review, and all models from a shop, and not cherry picked by the manufacturer, a lesson other reviewer sites should follow.
Speechless in front of this high end comparison work ! I recognize your professionnal side ! I wish a long life to HDTVTest ! Thanks a lot Vincent, a real touch of a guenine talent =)
I just came from 50 years into the future: Breaking News just in
In the year 2068, Quantum Apotheosis will come out with a youtube video claiming the 900E to still be the best TV that year
and in a wheelchair with his Samsung Galaxy S58, flicking through Amazon page for a TV giving a buyer's guide
Hahaahah
It is without a doubt
Again the best TV reviews on the internet! Thank you Vincent
Thank you so much dude. After watching, I have not a slightest bit of buyer's s remorse. I got the 900f and learned to appreciate it much more now with this in depth review.
Thank you very much Vincent for your efforts in having comparison videos, which is a better way to choose between various models. You're the only on the Internet who does these videos which is very helpful to potential customers and AV enthusiasts and I always look forward to it.
Your videos are number one on RUclips for me Vincent keep up the good work.
This is the best review in very detail technical quality. You totally help me to decide between XE and XF that no one can explain better. Please keep continue a great review. Cheers!
I just upgraded from a Toshiba 50l711u18 (which was a surprisingly good panel) to the x900f here in Canada and I'm blown away with how good it performs with my PS4 Pro and movies. I will be watching all the sports on it as well whenever things get back to normal and just wanted to say I am pleased my screen ranks as the best for what I got it for and how thorough of a review this is. Thanks HDTVTest!
man when ever i think i found a good tv, reviews shatters my dreams of jumping to 4k ...first the tcl and now the sony 900e
Same exact results on our end. Vin is spot on. Super fun video VT. Really enjoyed it.
- Joey
#1) X930e
#2) X900f
#3) X900e
modernwize Hey Joey, thanks for your info, you and Vincent are doing the best TV videos on YT. There’s one thing I hope you can clarify with the X900F, the Rtings review mentions overshoot issues with the X900F, and no other review has mentioned anything about this. Have you noticed any problems with this on the X900F, particularly in gaming? Thanks.
Danny Staip Yes, I have seen it during a few dark scenes with fast transitions / fast motion. I’ll recheck our x900f tonight to see if its persistent. I wonder if Vin would mind checking his x900f before we communicate this as a common defect.
modernwize Thanks Joey.
X900f Vincent recommends for gaming but clarify on rtings overshoot issues and modernwize banding issue
modernwize do you like the 930 over the LG B/C7?
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for highlighting the frame drop issue with the XE90, I am currently in the process of exchanging that model for the XF90 because of this issue, and I'm really happy that motion is improved on the XF90.
Do you have the juddering issue with the xe90? If yes you also have it when you play video files with your hard disk connect to your tv?
I have the x930e and love it it does need some calibration to get it right but when you find that sweet spot the TV looks amazing
Don't you need calibration equipment
How do u calibrate it? I just bought one
Great comparison, been waiting for it since X900F release, good work thanks.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video! I just bought 9300E (NZ)
Very well articulated and backed with solid examples. Your testing was thorough and well chosen with the most emphasis on areas that typically push panels to their furthest limits!
Motion clarity is always the most important feature for me. I really want to see the HDR and Dolby Vision thing play out a little more before I decide to get my next tv. Part of me thinks I should just wait for microLED but that might be a little too far away.
Treeface micro led....haha get ready to pay 10k for a 55 inch
It’s been a year did you get one of the Sony’s
Superb intro Vincent and well done Richer Sounds Manchester for making this possible. I'd always buy through them and have for years bought from the Reading branch.
Well I have the 900E and it looks amazing to me but I guess I don't have the eye of some viewers or critics. The motion on the 900F does sound pretty awesome though.
body on frame as long as your satisfied thats all that matters.
I am very satisfied as you know, but I'd be more satisfied with the 75 inch 900E. Ha ha ha.
It really is a great 4k tv. I got an early 900f in the states and I can tell that it's a more premium TV.
There's a reason about 7,500 people user reviews garner an overall 4.8 out of 5 rating. It's an all-around great looking TV. Like you said, it looks amazing in your home and that's what counts. And honestly, a more fair comparison to do is the 900e vs TV's from other makers in its price/spec range. This is like comparing a Toyota Corolla to the Camry and Avalon.
Which 900E TV do you have. The 43, 49, 55 or 65 inch
Just to clarify that the XE93 isn't just edge lit. It has slim backlight drive plus, which is essentially a four layer edge light system. probably the most advanced one on the market. Most edge lit tv are just single strip and have many less zones.
Still on the edge, not behind.
Yes i said that in my post. But the reason I make this clarification is because the ignorant amongst the Samsung community will claim that having an Edge lit TV is better than a backlit one. When infact this particular arrangements of Edge lit LEDS is not conventional.So yes its Edge lit, but its not simply Edge lit, its more than that.
Sanookdi did you watch the video. Lol .. That edge is good
Sanookdi well it does have a light guiding plate about 2/3rds down the screen which stretches across the whole TV. Plus rows of LEDs on the top and bottom. So I'd say it's more of a hybrid.
@@profitfever great point. This obviously reflects on why it performs so well for an edge lit cuz it's special.
No one should regret buying the 900e. It was literally the best bang for your buck 4K that could compete with high end models without the high end price. Of course technology improves every year, but the 900e is still an incredible TV that should be shown off! I couldn't find a justification to buy the 930e for nearly $400 more in-store. Even with a retailer's calibration, my eyes couldn't justify that huge price increase.
You are using the word literally incorrectly.
I watch the video again it's like quantum physics you're the best bro explaining and bringing it down
Vincent, you are awesome. Your demeanour is very level, almost sedate, but you are clearly very passionate about TV reviewing. I think it showed through well in this video. Keep up the good work!
As someone who just bought x900e I'm glad Vincent put this video out.
I know the TV I bought wasn't top of it's class, but do note that Vincent had to exaggerate the exposure level of the video and slow down the recording to even show the faults of this X900e model.
In my opinion, even though the x900e is a mid-range set; from it's design to it's performance and price, it feels premium. It doesn't support DV, but I've seen it IRL side by side with HDR10 and it didn't blow me away. The HDR performance is good enough and the detail I get when playing on my PS4 Pro is incredible.
If you have the money, go for the X930e, but if you don't, then don't sit on the x900e unless you're really need DV support. Now I sit and wait for QA meltdown.
Great video Vincent, I got my 55XE9305 for £80 cheaper and paid £1188 which was amazing deal so I'm over the moon I snapped it up before it disappeared :)
msh1411 from where did you get such a low price ?
I got the 55XE9305 for 995€ on black friday. It was actually a pricing error which they fixed within a couple of hours, but they let me have it for the price. Not bad :)
It was an affiliate site that was taken down so the deal is no longer available.
That's an amazing price!
I wondering if we support hdtvtest and order from richer sounds that they can give a good price, I’ve been to my local one but sales team there are bad and have no idea about TVs, they so easily recommend Oleds and how it’s the best The X930 on display didn’t work and I didn’t get a good impression.
Awesome review Vincent! 10 STARS For you! X930E is the beast!
Thank you so much Vincent. Your objectivist reviews are incredible. I have been debating between these 3 TV's.
So Ben. Which one of the 3 have you decided on?
@@Modisaud x-900f.
@@steelheart4148 thanks ben. I too plan to get x900f in 2 weeks time. I hope ur happy with ur purchase?
@@Modisaud Very happy with it!
Fantastic review, sir! Very well done - extremely thorough and easy to understand. Thanks for doing this! I'm planning to pick up the X900F because of your review (and I've watched dozens on it).
I just got the 65” X900E as it was $1200 cheaper then the new X900F. I am very happy with the purchase and saving a chunk of cash!
That aspect is important as well! That's why the 900E has it's place
One of the best Technology reviews I have seen so far.
Crazy comparison Vincent, keep up the amazing work.
Wow, I would go for the x930e.
X900e fair enough 🤟
I did go for the 930e, and got a free Sony 4K Blu Ray player with mine.
Depends on if you game in 4K or not. 930e does better than 900e for 4K I put lag
Silly OctoPussie The XE93 has lower input lag than the XE90 for 4k gaming on the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X...The XE90 only wins if you game at 1080p on the Nintendo Switch.
Silly OctoPussie. Wrong. 930e has lower input lag than 900e if you have a 4k signal hooked up. 930e better for HDR movies and gaming too.
Thanks for taking time to do this! Exactly what I've been wanting to know.
Just bought the X900F. Looks fantastic. Crossing over from a Panasonic 50" Plasma. Image quality is comparable to the plasma.
Those Pioneer Plasma TV's from 10 years ago were great.
I remember Fujitsu made some crazy high price Plasma TVS over 10 years ago
Awesome review!! Thank you so much for the detailed and informative descriptions. I really enjoyed this video!
Great review. Even after I make my purchase I’ll stop by to watch new videos. You provide a lot of useful knowledge.
I love the 900e center stand... and hate the 900f legs stand.
he put them in a wrong way. legs should be oustside
Since motion is a priority for me it's going to be the X900F, but I'll wait for Black Friday deals.
Vincent, your hard work and effort comes through with a very informative video and is much appreciated.
Thanks for the video Vincent. Really professional and informative. I've already gone with the XF90 (65" version) for a brilliant price of £1399.99 including a 5 year manufacturer's warranty from Sony, but I was still interested in this video comparison all the same. I've had a very quick look, and I'm not certain, but I think the other two are now unavailable to buy brand new anyway?!
And since I'm upgrading from a faulty Hisense H65M7000 which I picked up in July 2017 new for an amazing £849.99 (and for which I will be receiving a full refund), I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the XF90 by comparison to what I have now. Thanks again, really professional information and advice. 👍
Great video, the amount of effort you put in clearly shows. Thanks. I think I'll be going with the x900f when I upgrade.
Because of you Vincent I now have a second TV and still haven't got rid of my first one yet. Yes OK it's a brilliant TV and I am extremely happy with it because it is pretty close to everything I ever wanted in a 4K HDR TV. But that's besides the point!
whenever I want to buy a tv, come to your channel. you are simply awesome dude. great work. btw even if I live in Bangladesh, I bought my whole home theater system with Av receiver and other stuffs from Richer Sound. they are great.
Hey, thanks for the awesome video! I watch a lot of hockey, so I think I'm going to go with the XF90 (X900F here in the States).
It should be obvious You Tube isnt anywhere near a perfect window but there are people
who dont understand this same goes with audio sound it cannot be the same as the person doing
a review can hear it . Thank You MR Vincent for another good review .
Most informative for TV buying decisions! Was making a choice between the 2017 X930E, 2018 X900F and the newest 2019 X950G, all 55-inch and this covered two of them. If money were no object I'd be buying the X950G. It's $300 USD more than the X930E, and the X900F is $200 more. The price difference between the X900F and X950G is too close, so consideration of the X900F was dropped. This video plus your most recent review on the X950G sold me on the X930E. I've got other priorities for the $300 and it will give me what I'm looking for in watching movies from a mix of NTSC DVD, (2k) Blu-ray and 4k UHD. Nearly all are Blu-ray and will be upscaled.
Edit: Just received the X930E this week and set it up. It is *heavy*! In the brown two-layer freight shipping carton it's about 100 lbs. Out of that it's down to about 90 lbs. in just the retail packaging carton. Once set up with stand it's down to 80 lbs. - still noticeably heavier than the newer and most other 55". Also significantly heavier than the 46" 2010 model year KDL-46EX600 Bravia LED it's replacing. I'm impressed with the upscaling from 1080p to 4k, the contrast and the color space. Experimenting with some of the basic picture settings and you are exactly right, it's a light canon if the ambient light setting is turned off and brightness isn't adjusted from default. WOW! Had to dial that down some as it nearly blew me out of the room. Not only is the larger picture a welcome change, the clarity of image and color is dramatic.
I like your reviews. First comment in a while for me. Good job.
Very good, solidly made comparison! Thank a lot!
I've just bought the 65 inch xf9005. I game on PC at native 4K and the set really meets my needs. I've read that the 9305 has terrible problems with reflections and looks awful in bright rooms.
Excellent video. Many thanks.
Nope. X930E has no problems with reflections and looks terrific in bright rooms. You have a lesser TV than mine since you went with X900F and I went with 65 inch X930E.
More than happy with my 65 inch XF90
Wow I don't own a Sony TV but have to Admin seriously good review big well done and thank you. Very interesting point last year XE93 and XF90.. And to think XE93 is edge lite panel
When doing the blooming test i would do it much more carefully since they differ in maximum brightness, and mostly peak brightness, the ideal video scenario would be using the "pontual" exposure of the white box on each set instead of maintaining the same camera(exposure) configurations for each, the x900F felt like it was the one with the most blooming, does not matter if the video must be viewed and heard at the same time many people will not understand it or put it out of context.
We bought the X930E just before Christmas, and we're very impressed by its performance. We don't use it for gaming, so we weren't concerned with any lag issues. However, we do watch a lot on Verizon FIOS which isn't in 4k (and not likely to be anytime soon), so the upscaling ability of the X1 Extreme processor were important. I manually installed the DolbyVision update when it was released in January, and DolbyVision content on NetFlix looks amazing. I don't yet have a 4k BluRay player, so I'm waiting until the HDMI/DolbyVision issue gets sorted out.
The X900F didn't come out until the 2018 CES and it looks like a big improvement on the X900E. Pricewise, right now in the US, the 65 inch X900F is selling for around $200 more than the same size X930E.
Whew... that's a lot of white noise for the first 4:34 of the video but great comparo & appreciate that you did this!! You're a credit to the hobby (and profession!) Liked & subscribed!!
really awesome video. Incredible WELL explained, slowly and easy to understand. Good job there!
Great informative video that’s with facts and fair comparisons (properly calibrated). I have a OLED but if I have a choice from this video it be the 930E.
i actually took back my 65 c7 for this tv not because the c7 wasnt a great tv but becaise i have the c6 from 2016 models and other then a slight better color representaion and the fact theres no 3d im telloling you and anyone else tgere is no visible brightness difference i only got the c7 because lg claimed it was 25 percent brighter that was just a lie atleast om my c7 compared to my c6.. i will say there is less noise in dirty screen effect but i wanted a brighter display for my living room as it is bright but i will say if i didnt already have a c6 i would of kept the c7 over the sony 930e but i want it for gaming and brightness for hdr and the sonybis better at both in my oppiinion... and cheaper
This is what I been wanted to see. These comparisons
So glad I went for the XE93, on your advice from a previous video may I add. Have a PS4 pro so the lag time is not a problem. Bought it from Richers as well and they we’re great. Got a small problem with picture settings switching from iPlayer to HDMI 2 (PS4), seems to keep the same settings, can’t work it out! Again, keep up the good work Vincent!
Thank you Vincent. Very helpful comparison. I'm personally considering the X900F.
@HDTVTest Hi Vincent,
Based on this video, I purchased a XE93 from Richer Sounds Manchester (even though I live in Leeds).
Unfortunately the one you calibrated had been sold. I was gutted.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for supporting Richer Sounds Manchester! :-)
I’m really glad I found this channel and Vincents reviews! Extremely well presented and informative.
Seems like I have been around the block and back again trying to find the best tv/price/size for my needs . Started looking at Lg OLEDs but went by a Best Buy and decided I could “live” without an oled for now for various reasons (price, retention possibility, thought they looked great of course but not worth the extra expenditure). Then i started looking at Lg, vizio, and TCL LEDs and ended up at the Sony’s after seeing some comparisons over at RTINGS... And I’m GLAD I did.
I was sure I was going to get the 900F especially after seeing Vincents review full review... Then I saw this shootout and I was very conflicted. Like others have mentioned the 930E wins out slightly in almost every category. I was just about to order one but then I saw his review for the 930E and there was one thing in that review he did not mention in this shoot, out and that is the fact that the 930 has top and bottom lit LED (as opposed to side) and that there can be noticeable blooming when letterboxing. He showed specific examples from The Dark Night with lamps near the top of the frame where you can see the blooming continue up to the edge of the screen. I realize (just like in this video) that the results seen on camera may be exaggerated, but this is something that would drive me nuts if I couldn’t un see it once seen type of thing (since I watch a lot of movies).
I’m coming from a Pioneer SC-LX5090 (their last Plasma in the EU)which was my main TV since the day it was released and only sold due to moving back to the states... so am hoping to come as close to that as possible without having to buy an OLED just yet.
So, Looks like the 900f is the best choice for me at the moment based on the non oled sets I have researched so far. Now just not sure if I want to buy now or hope it goes on sale for Black Friday.
Did you get the 900f on Black Friday? I am waiting for he same now.
Sony 900f vs. Samsung Q70R 65" TV for watching Satellite TV and movies on Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Apple TV in a dimly lit room? Thanks for the very informative videos!
Very interesting video. I am going to buy the X900F tomorrow(75")
Great video, very helpful! Thx for effort!
Thank you for another top quality professional video. Everyone should watch your videos before purchasing a tv these days.
Wow this was very informative - I was very surprised when Rtings said there was virtually no difference between the 900e and the 900f and that you should just buy whatever was cheaper!!!!
Very clear comparison review, thanks. These are the final three TVs I am choosing between. The XF90 wins for sports then! I'll be calling Richer Sounds tomorrow 😀
if sports is you main viewing, then you'd be stupid to pay that much more for anything above an X900E. Sports look flawless on the X900E...movies, not so much.
taradead "that much more"... it's really not that much more and x900f is taking the lead in all fronts. He is not stupid if he gets x900f. I just bought x900f and it is the better choice. It exceeds in all even input lag. 1080p only 12.9ms @120hz.
"stupid" was a bit harsh, but $500 difference between the 55 inch X900E and X900F is significant. I don't think the small improvements are worth it.
vincet said fast motion sports such as soccer or hockey or fast action games such as racing or maybe even some twitch shooters... but that was it not all sports and deff not all games.
Thank you so much for helping me make my mind on what to get. well done!!!
I'm getting the xf90 tomorrow this video helped me make that final decision
My X900E 75 inch for $2400. $1400 less or more than the new model for features I'd have to be a robot to appreciate?
LOL X900E all day bud, all day.
Nice! Been waiting for this! Keep it up Vince!
Something to keep in mind is in Vincent's review of the 930E he mentions how blooming is an issue in the letterbox bars because of the edge lighting and the fact it's from the top and bottom of the set as opposed to the usual sides. I didn't see any mention of that here, so just to keep things in perspective, it's not all peaches and cream.
Donald Bonner dude did you watch the video.. all 3 sets has blooming.. but the 930e has the best control for blooming
chith siriphat the camera was overexposed. What you're seeing is not relevant while watching exactly. X900e has very minimal blooming but it spreads across a wider area. X900f is similar to the X900e with more pronounced blooming. X930 has stronger blooming because of the high brightness focused on a smaller area, as it has better local dimming zones. You mainly see the blooming in HDR content, lesser resolution is very faint.
An absolutely magisterial review
Awesome comparison. Keep up the great work.
Very balanced review. I learned a lot. Many thanks.
thanks for the best tv reviews.
Great video Vincent. The exact kind of review I am looking for. Thank you so much.
Thanks Vincent! Great comparison of three great LCD LED TVs
Just ordered the xe9305 just befor it was sold out for 1350 swiss franks (thats about 1400 USD).
It is a steal at that price
Very useful. I respect your assessments. You made up my mind which TV to get I've been reading about the nu8000 and Sony 900f I'm going to go with the Sony 900f 55 in thanks for your review very enlightening