Haha! Too true. I have come to conclude that skepticism is all too easy, there's almost no point to arguing with skeptics, they have their minds made up already. If one has an "a priori" bias against miracles or the supernatural, there's nothing to argue about, yet skeptics wanna argue nonsense things that can't be proved one way or the other. I'd prefer if they were honest and said that they don't believe because nothing would make them believe.
IP, I thank you so MUCH. Your apologetic works has strengthened my dying faith. I was being convinced by those Dawah guys, and I believed them. I saw you on yt, introduced me to theology and philosophy, and I saw Christianity in a new lens, and so I returned back before almost reciting the shahada. It honestly feels like the Holy Spirit did something to bring me here, and im happy. Thank you, and to God of course. God bless, IP.
@@hid473 You should read the gospel of John for yourself, and once you do you'll never find any reason to ever doubt that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
The Bible discredits itself, especially since it's derivative of *older* mythologies originating from the Sumerians. Refer to the lectures referenced below by Professor Christine Hayes. Stick with critical scholarship, not dishonest apologists. ------------------------------------------------------- *The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.*** *Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.*** ***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service. *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"* *"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"* *"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"* ("The Sumerians were the people of southern Mesopotamia whose civilization flourished between c. 4100-1750 BCE." "Ancient Israelites and their origins date back to 1800-1200 BCE.") *"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"* Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes. From a Biblical scholar: "Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."* *"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Genesis 1:1-2 --- not a creation ex nihilo"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Hammurabi - World History Encyclopedia"* (Hammurabi (r. 1792-1750 BCE) was the sixth king of the Amorite First Dynasty of Babylon best known for his famous law code which served as the model for others, *including the Mosaic Law of the Bible.)* *"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"* *"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"* *"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"* (Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief) *"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"* *"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From? *"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"* Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica (Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years) *"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"* *"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"* *"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"* *"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"* Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"* (8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science) *"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"* *"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"* *"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"* *"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"* *"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"* *"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei (This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies) *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@@ewankerr3011 he is called both Lord, and God. Revelation 22:6 followed by Revelation 22:16. As for Lord, he is the only Lord. 1 corinthians 8:5-6 And Isaiah 45:5 "I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God." So if Lord God Jesus is THE ONLY Lord, then he is Lord God of the old testament (as Revelation 22:6 and 22:16 says). If you seek the truth in order to worship the true God, and not throw verses to debate just for the sake of debating, I can give you the explanation for verses like Jon 17:3 and others. But if all youre interested in is debating for the sake of debating, I wish you a great day but il pass in continuing any conversation. Worship the true Lord God, Jesus Christ.
@@Christs_Apologet : With respect, nowhere in the gospels or Epistles is Jesus called Lord God. The Lord God in Rev 22 is the Father, the Lord God of Rev 1. From the opening verse of Revelation, throughout the first chhapter, Jesus is depicted as one other than the Lord God. The term/title 'Lord' is applied to many in the Bible such as kings and other worthies. Christians certainly called Jesus 'Lord'. The writer of Acts depicts Peter giving a famous speech in Acts 2 in which throughout his discourse, Peter depicts Jesus as one other than God; a man. a prophet, the promised messiah, the one whom God made both Lord and Christ(Acts 2 :36) You have completely misunderstood 1 Cor 8:5&6. In verse 5, Paul acknowledges that many in the Greco-Roman world of his time were called gods and lords. However, in verse 6, he points out that to Christians there is one God, The Father of whom are all things and there is one lord, Jesus Christ (messiah) THROUGH whom are all things. Here Paul differentiates between rhe Lord God and the Lord messiah. We see Paul doing this in his letters, especially in his introductions, where he always sends greetings from two, the Lord God and the Lord messiah(Jesus). In fact, Paul makes it clear that one is the God of the other(2 Cor 1 :3). All historians and theologians know that Jesus and his disciples were Jews. Throughout the NT we read about Jesus praying to and worshipping his God. The foundation of Christianity is that Jesus died on th cross and was resurrected by God after which he later ascended to heaven to be at the right hand of God(Acts 2). To Christians, this was the proof that Jesus really was the messiah. The claim of the Evangelists was not that Jesus was God Almighy. but that he was the Christ, the Son of God. It is quite anachronistic to read later Church teachings back into the NT. I am happy for you to believe what you want to believe or not believe if that is the case. However, I would much rather that you base your beliefs on accuracte information and certainly not in anachronistic reasoning.
This is very interesting. However there are other parts of the Gospel of John where there is said about that it is not part of the original text, namely the first 11 verses of John 8, about the sinful women and whether she should have been stoned.
That story is not found in the oldest manuscripts of John BUT is found in our earliest lectionaries. What may have happened is that it was a story passed down orally outside of The Gospel traditions and eventually placed into the lectionaries. They stuck the story of the adulteress woman where it appeared in the order of the lectionary.
@@DANtheMANofSIPA KJ-onlyists have one valid point: Oldest is not automatically best. Untrusted copies get handled less and last longer. I can also image a scenario wherein the original writer issued a second edition after copies of the first edition had begun multiplying. I’m not contradicting the “scholarly” position, I’m just saying the degree of certainty isn’t as high as they make it out to be.
I’m on board with the argument, but I think we should note that many scholars who reject chapter 21 also reject that the prologue is authentic to John (usually because the talk of Logos stops for the rest of the gospel).
@@InspiringPhilosophyNo evidence they weren't. We don't have as much evidence for the evolution of John as we do Luke, which we have insight into only if we conclude Marcion's text was not edited by Marcion but was in fact an archaic form of Luke.
The _Pericope Adulterae_ (John 7:53-8:11) is known to be a later addition to John's Gospel. As such, the passage doesn't deserve the canonical status some people give it. Evidence against the authenticity of the _Pericope Adulterae_ (John 7:53-8:11) is overwhelming. It: • is absent from many early manuscripts, including P66 (2nd/3rd-century), P75, (3rd-century), Sinaiticus (4th-century), Vaticanus (4th-century); • is marked-off and/or annotated in many _Greek_ manuscripts to indicate that it is suspect; • has a style and vocabulary that differs from the rest of the Gospel, showing that someone else wrote it; • interrupts the flow of the text from John 7:52 to 8:12; • is missing from the Sahidic manuscripts and from the oldest Syriac, Georgian and Boharic manuscripts; and • is placed after John 7:44 or John 21:25 in some manuscripts and is even found in one Lukan manuscript, after Luke 21:38.
Hey, I love your content and would like to request a video on whether or not Jesus existed because I still see a lot of people saying that there is no historical evidence and I think you would do a good job covering it.
It is not unusual for an author to add an epilogue after what seems like an ending, consider Peter Jackson’s “Return of the King”, Billy Crystal was right when he joked that the 11 Oscars it won was “one for every ending”, sometimes stories go on a little longer after what we think is the end
I've seen the thoery that Ephesians is a circular letter, which would have had the name of the particular city it was sent to put in, but would otherwise be identical. So that would actually be the letter to the Laodicians. I don't think it can quite be proved, but several data points fit the theory. I originally heard it from Tom Wright. He wrote a biography of Paul, in which he talks about when and where he sent the various letters.
Hey man how much of the gospels can we get from 1st-2nd century church father writings? I am sure that most of the contested passages are mentioned. Could you make a video about that?
IP, why don't you have a SINGLE video about John 7:53-8:11 and if it is even possible that that event historically occurred, despite the fact that the earliest evidence for it is from the 5th century?
3:20 496 is also a "perfect number" (the sum of its divisors add up to itself). The first 4 perfect numbers are 6, 28, 496, and 8128, and they become more rare as one goes up the scale.
Hey IP great vid once again. I had a thought that were adam and eve were sinners or not since your concept of adam and eve being priets being kicked out of the garden and if adam or eve looked at the other people with lust or wrath 🤔 that would help me out on my jouney 🙏
It's actually quite funny when you see an atheist YTber invite an atheist scholar for an interview and the atheist scholar is useing the bible as part of their argumentation. As their audience realises . (or perhaps they don't) Atheists have said we can't use the bible as a source for anything. It's ' not evidence' And then you watch that same atheist evolve and then start useing the bible This shift is noticeable if you have watched any yt atheist channel that has invited atheist scholars on for some time .
@SIXER_8 Or you'll notice paulogia doesn't use the ' because the bible told me so ' jingle as much anymore . Because he's invited atheist scholars who use the bible as part of their theories.
@ramadadiver7810 i mean, if they are trying to use the bible to determine if something is biblically accurate, then thats fine? What alternative methods are they even supposed to use in a biblical debate? The Quran wouldn't really make sense there, would it? It depends on what they are trying to use the evidence for. Using the bible as evidence to determine if something is biblical is only logical. Now, using the bible to determine if something is historically accurate is another thing. The bible, like any other body of evidence; is accurate and appropriate for certain things and inappropriate and innacurate for others. Saying the bible is or isn't (reliable) evidence without specifying all of the nuance is an inaccurate oversimplification.
It's not about determining biblical accuracy but historicity . Atheist new testament scholars use the bible to create a theory that they consider to be historical when it comes to the rise of Christianity and things associated with Christianity
i have a question about the prologue of john and genesis the prologue of john starts with "in the beginning" while popular translations of genesis render prologue of genesis to be "in the beginning" as well however as you mentioned in your genesis series, the prologue in genesis could also be translated as "when God created" so does this really affect anything?? like john as a jew and his ability to translate hebrew
From what I've read, I always understood that the gospel was written by John on the request of the elders of the church in Ephesus and that they acted as a team in support of him. Such is not unusual for ancient authors and I've used it myself. I'd write the chapters and then position and weave them together. Perhaps John died after chapters 1-20 and 21 had been written but not integrated together. Rather than doing that afterwards, which would have been impertinent, they simply published what they had unintegrated.
While he doesn’t have a video directly about that book, he has playlist on the benefits of Christianity which will probably address points raised in that book
Could you make a video on the prophecies in the Bible? Specificity the ones in Isaiah related to Cyrus the great. If proven true, it could be one of the greatest arguments for the Bible imo.
Michael Jones can you do a video responding to a documentary of the creation of Christianity this documentary claimed that there was no Christianity pre-Constantine
I have a question about Christmas: was it related to the Roman celebration of Saturn. I don't mean Christmas is about a false God but was the celebration itself based off of the Saturn celebration. Also I don't know if you have heard but I seen a video of a speculated confirmed birth of Jesus based off of the witnesses of ancient Chinese astronomers
All believers have peace if they are obedient. All people who work against God are recorded. They will never stop God and they are frustrated the burden of proof is on them, and they will never be able to prove God does not exist. But, he can prove to them he exists. But it would be difficult to watch.
Why would John hide an addedum? Mark does not (longer ending). Just saying the gospel authors never made any attempt to hide stuff or deceive their audiences (John clearly states Peter's death thus not hiding it was written aftwards).
Wow,I just heard a little numerology in there,like i tell peole...the Bible is riddled with things about astrology,numerology, and all kinds of divination
You know. It seems like Christianity is plagued with......Christians...lol. i wrote this to someone a while back. I wonder how many Christians will say i am wrong in part. Or whole😂 1. Based on the overall work of the bible, God/Jesus/Holy Spirit is our father, savior, and guide. Through mankind's time on the earth, God has given us the perfect example to follow for everything, but I am focusing on just the following. As a father, we know our children. We know what they will do in any given situation. We'll, we do get surprised sometimes. God doesn't. We give our children instruction, as God has throughout human history, to us. We punish, we show grace, we teach, we love. We allow them to make their own choices again. We repeat this until they are what they should be, according to God's word. 2. Jesus Christ is available to everyone on earth as the one and only savior. Sometimes, as above, it can take a while. Sometimes, we reject God even when we know all of this. We are God's children, and God wants us to come to him. He teaches us, lets us make the decision, punishes us, shows us grace, mercy and forgiveness. Then has us start again. It is God's DESIRE that all should come to him. 3. I trust and believe that God guards his word. Meaning that, when translated to any language, he guides the hand of man. I still search for context and more complex Meaning if the language it was translated from has expanded context and is more full relative to the English version. 4. And my last belief? God as a father has loved me and instructed me, punished me, taught me again, showed me mercy by fully forgiving me. Everything I have is from God, God has shown me that his instruction, punishment and love are all perfect. He goes through this cycle with human beings as a whole and individually. I, having experienced this, come to understand that Jesus is it. No matter what I do as God's child, he will keep at me, Jesus will still be there, the Holy Spirit still guides me. God has done a work, by allowing me the ability to accept his salvation. That's it. Everything else is what his word says. I don't even have to think about belief. Belief is not even involved. It just is.
It was safeguarded by the the catholic church for 2000 years and was read every mass so any changes would of been noticed by the people same today yesterday and forever@@davemillsap647
@@ramadadiver7810 you either don't actually know how the Canon was established or have a rather naive view of what God would or would not "allow" to happen to "his message".
@@davemillsap647 I do know how the cannon was formed . I I can track the deity incarnation human death physical resurection of jesus back to the earliest Christian sources . The most basic fundamentals have been preserved but so have 99.9% of the original within our copies
@@Greyz174 I admit I’m not familiar with Bauckham’s full argument. But the idea that John calculated the numerical value of the word “only” and counted the number of syllables as he was writing the prologue just seems highly implausible to me.
@@oliveblake8154 well, it's "only begotten" (monogenes/μονογενες) which is more poetic/significant than "only" and its definitely not impossible that someone decided to do stuff like this, but the problem is more about how you can know they actually meant to so that, since the 14/14/14 example in Matthew is known because he says that's what he is doing so we definitely know that we arent just reading the pattern into the data Probably not something to make strong conclusions on such that other things have to accommodate it. He even says that this can (cautiously) be used to determine which textual variants are original, if the variant matches some syllable count, which is probably a bit much.
@@Greyz174 “Only begotten” slightly increases the plausibility, but it still seems like grasping at straws. As a general principle, I don’t think we should assume an author is using gematria unless we’re explicitly told (like Matthew’s 14-14-14 pattern or Revelation’s 666). You can use gematria to come to any conclusion you wish to find, so I don’t find it to be a helpful tool in determining authorial intent. John was also an illiterate fisherman. So that further decreases the plausibility of all this.
@@InspiringPhilosophy ok, I know its stressful having to deal with stuff like this which I see happens to you quite a bit, just know that we appreciate what you do.
@@InspiringPhilosophy You are doing something right that's for sure . The atheist community pretty much needs to bring on a scholar everytime they want to respond to you . Very telling 😉
ruclips.net/video/7b88Pr7IMMQ/видео.htmlsi=MTeK3GCjFvPU1b4k Found this documentary and thought of you. It’s a JW production about how Christmas is pagan. Maybe a longer video with apologetic roadshow? Merry Christmas
Hey Michael Jones, how would you respond to the scholarly book post it in 2015 the myth of persecution this book was written by a new testament scholar name, Canada moss this book makes the claim that the martyrdom of christians never never happen
Hey IP, can you make a video on the LXX? In my personal study I have found the LXX to be inaccurate (I am a native speaker and writer of hebrew). Scholars have also concurred with the translator being ignorant of hebrew idioms, Daniel being from the Herplexia ect. This presents serious theological problems. For example, all church fathers teaching post-Saint Jerome is incorrect but I could even further assert that it is all false as it stems from the church fathers were in error. This also challenges Jesus in the OT, Mary in the OT, and more. It's disastrous. I have my full argument but I won't post it here as it is long. If you would like to reach out my Instagram user is identical to a RUclips user but without the numbers on the end. Thank you, Max
These “apologists” just can’t seem to grasp that ancient stories are NOT necessarily Fact, and is dubious at best. So either they Don’t understand reliable evidence or they choose to perpetuate things that can’t be proven true. The are “cafeterians” selecting biblical passages, embellishing them & passing them off as “proof”, when they in fact seem to have little idea of what proof actually constitutes.
Hey hope you are well! How is he picking and chosing from the Bible to prove his point and can you show me bible verses that condradict the point he is making?
Nice… first of all I Don’t hold a degree in theology or “biblical studies”. Having said that I don’t need one to add 2+2 to get 4. What I DO know is ALL humans are Fallible beings & historically have had a vivid imagination, feelings of despair & hopelessness, etc and so will grasp at any straws in order to assuage their fears & insecurities. even without ANY independent physical evidence. Whatever nonsense helps them feel better they’ll turn fantasy into reality. In fact even ancient “sun (not son) worshipers” were closer to the facts concerning the formation of this universe than modern-day Jews, Christians & Muslims.
@@msmd3295Ok...but that didn't answer my question one bit. And again Jesus was a real person who walked on Earth. What physical proof would have convinced you? Because there are people like Richard Dawkings that can never ever be convinced no matter what. Again thanks hope you are well.
@@msmd3295I believe that all the scientific advancements we have made from the foundations of Christianity, that if God has given mankind laws to obey and follow then he would have made laws for the whole universe as well and we can find it.
Your problem is you accept the Bible at face value with little to no scrutiny. I don’t rely on the Bible because it’s written by FALLIBLE beings. And according to the Bible Jesus never wrote any of it. They are hearsay testimonials on the part of his followers. So the Bible is just as unreliable as spiritualists, mysticists, and just plain liars trying to keep their faith (belief Without evidence) are today !! I & academic biblical “scholars” largely agree there was a Jewish rabbi named Jesus. But that’s far from being a supernatural entity. As a result I don’t rely strictly upon biblical passages for facts. Just as one example of the Old Testament… the story of Jericho being conquered by Joshua. Unfortunately, archaeologists & having located what they believe to have been that ancient town based upon archaeological data believe that town was in fact abandoned 100 years before Joshua.
Here's a powerful thought, that I don't think many apologists and those that learn from apologists, have considered -- A Jewish Rabbi is the last place to learn problems that prove Judaism false, A Muslim Imam is the last place to learn problems that prove Islam false -- So it follows a Christian pastor, Christian apologist, Christian leader is the last place to learn problems that prove Christianity false. If you want to know if your beliefs have good evidence, after you grew up listening to Christian teachers primarily, you should now spend an equal amount of time LISTENING to those who DON'T believe. You can start with the channels Paulogia and TMM on RUclips.
Paulogia isn't always accurate and shows far more skepticism in his videos than research. I'd recommend reading commentaries from biblical scholars, historians, and reading different perspectives altogether. Helps to broaden your critical thinking with different arguments.
People like Paulogia and Bart Ehrman, who misrepresent what the Bible says, who portray complementary accounts of events and conflicting accounts, and who ignore sound scholarship that has already addressed the other claims they make against Christianity don't prove Christianity false. All they do is reveal their own prejudices and willingness to deceive.
@@calmingwavesjulian You're kidding, right? Ehrman has an MDiv and a PhD from Princeton Theological Seminary. He has written and edited at least 30 books, mostly focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth. His academic and populist works are worlds apart. He'd be laughed out of academia if he tried to pass off his populist attacks on Christianity there as serious scholarship. As for Paulogia, his misrepresentations have been pointed out to him innumerable times - with debunking evidence - but he persists with them.
Quickest way to figure out your religion is not true: The woman taken in adultery story in John was not written by John-- but it made its way into scripture, is this part of John's Gospel, INSPIRED by God? If not, why did God let it slip in. If God lets UNINSPIRED pieces in his Holy Word, what evidence do we have that any Gospel, or letter from James, Peter or Paul is INSPIRED by God. Listen carefully, I'm saying even if all parts of the Gospels are authentic. even if Paul wrote every letter we have from him-- it doesn't mean God is behind them. And, would a God deny me eternal life because my logic says I should not trust the scriptures, or will a Good God damn me after creating me with a brain dumb enough to make a mistake?
There are good arguments that the woman taken in adultery story was written by John and belongs in John's gospel. Perhaps more importantly, even if it were something that didn't get written by the original author, (1) it doesn't matter, as the story doesn't deviate from the facts and theology presented by the rest of the New Testament, and (2) God could just as easily have inspired the history of copying as the original author, to make sure we received a book he was happy with.
@@ancalagonyt Okay. But, it's blind faith to think well it's in the Bible, God must have wanted it. Like saying God hasn't destroyed the Mormon church, he must want it to exist. I don't want to live my life under a religion that requires blind faith. Also, without this story in John, why can't a Christian today stone an adulterous woman?
@@calmingwavesjulian "Blind faith" is a caricature of Christianity. Faith is not blind, or at least it shouldn't be. Not sure why you brought that up. The story, even if it wasn't original to John, would apply. As I mentioned before, someone could think that the story wasn't original, but was inspired anyway. But even if it was neither original nor inspired, it's very likely to be a historically accurate story about Jesus. And even if it were none of these things, the story sounds very much like something Jesus would do, and we know it's something he would do because we can read the rest of the unambiguously inspired and original gospels. On top of that, we'd have no reason to do such a thing in the first place.
@@ancalagonyt Okay, good thinking except, you say "the story sounds very much like something Jesus would do, and we know it's something he would do because we can read the rest of the unambiguously inspired and original gospels". HOW do you KNOW the rest of the Gospels are inspired? How do you know Paul's letters are inspired? Bonus: Wait....how do you know this story in John is "historically accurate"?
So it mean that the book of Jhon has not written by the disciple of Jesus because according to the bible jhone the disciple was illiterate and unlearned man.
Ever heard of dictation? Paul dictated most of his letters, he did not personally write them with his own hands. By the time Johnwas written, John was old and had quite a following, more than enough to have anyone write down his recollections...
I can always count on IP to combat arguments I never even knew anyone was making in the first place.
Haha! Too true. I have come to conclude that skepticism is all too easy, there's almost no point to arguing with skeptics, they have their minds made up already. If one has an "a priori" bias against miracles or the supernatural, there's nothing to argue about, yet skeptics wanna argue nonsense things that can't be proved one way or the other. I'd prefer if they were honest and said that they don't believe because nothing would make them believe.
IP, I thank you so MUCH. Your apologetic works has strengthened my dying faith. I was being convinced by those Dawah guys, and I believed them. I saw you on yt, introduced me to theology and philosophy, and I saw Christianity in a new lens, and so I returned back before almost reciting the shahada. It honestly feels like the Holy Spirit did something to bring me here, and im happy. Thank you, and to God of course.
God bless, IP.
@@hid473 You should read the gospel of John for yourself, and once you do you'll never find any reason to ever doubt that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
The who?
You were a big factor in my conversion to Eastern Orthodoxy i thank you ☦️
Gee, skeptics are so desperate to find ways to discredit the Bible. Thanks for setting them straight.
Denialists are not skeptics
@@paradisecityX0 ,point taken.
cope harder at your next magic show
The Bible discredits itself, especially since it's derivative of *older* mythologies originating from the Sumerians.
Refer to the lectures referenced below by Professor Christine Hayes. Stick with critical scholarship, not dishonest apologists.
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*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.***
*Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.***
***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service.
*"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"*
*"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"*
("The Sumerians were the people of southern Mesopotamia whose civilization flourished between c. 4100-1750 BCE."
"Ancient Israelites and their origins date back to 1800-1200 BCE.")
*"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"*
Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes.
From a Biblical scholar:
"Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."*
*"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"*
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In addition, look up the below articles.
*"Genesis 1:1-2 --- not a creation ex nihilo"* - Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"*
*"Hammurabi - World History Encyclopedia"*
(Hammurabi (r. 1792-1750 BCE) was the sixth king of the Amorite First Dynasty of Babylon best known for his famous law code which served as the model for others, *including the Mosaic Law of the Bible.)*
*"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"*
*"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"*
*"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"*
(Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief)
*"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"*
*"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From?
*"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"*
Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica
(Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years)
*"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"*
*"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"*
*"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"*
*"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"*
*"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"*
Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"*
(8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science)
*"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"*
*"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"*
*"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"*
*"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"*
*"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"*
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@@theonlyrightanswer-qx3nb , sounds like you are speaking to the skeptics. Yeah, they really need to cope. The Bible is authentic.
Appreciate all the work. May Lord God Christ continue to bless you
Jesus, the Christ, is never called Lord God in the NT.
@@ewankerr3011 he is called both Lord, and God. Revelation 22:6 followed by Revelation 22:16.
As for Lord, he is the only Lord. 1 corinthians 8:5-6
And Isaiah 45:5 "I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God."
So if Lord God Jesus is THE ONLY Lord, then he is Lord God of the old testament (as Revelation 22:6 and 22:16 says).
If you seek the truth in order to worship the true God, and not throw verses to debate just for the sake of debating, I can give you the explanation for verses like Jon 17:3 and others.
But if all youre interested in is debating for the sake of debating, I wish you a great day but il pass in continuing any conversation.
Worship the true Lord God, Jesus Christ.
@@Christs_Apologet : With respect, nowhere in the gospels or Epistles is Jesus called Lord God. The Lord God in Rev 22 is the Father, the Lord God of Rev 1. From the opening verse of Revelation, throughout the first chhapter, Jesus is depicted as one other than the Lord God.
The term/title 'Lord' is applied to many in the Bible such as kings and other worthies. Christians certainly called Jesus 'Lord'. The writer of Acts depicts Peter giving a famous speech in Acts 2 in which throughout his discourse, Peter depicts Jesus as one other than God; a man. a prophet, the promised messiah, the one whom God made both Lord and Christ(Acts 2 :36)
You have completely misunderstood 1 Cor 8:5&6. In verse 5, Paul acknowledges that many in the Greco-Roman world of his time were called gods and lords. However, in verse 6, he points out that to Christians there is one God, The Father of whom are all things and there is one lord, Jesus Christ (messiah) THROUGH whom are all things. Here Paul differentiates between rhe Lord God and the Lord messiah. We see Paul doing this in his letters, especially in his introductions, where he always sends greetings from two, the Lord God and the Lord messiah(Jesus). In fact, Paul makes it clear that one is the God of the other(2 Cor 1 :3).
All historians and theologians know that Jesus and his disciples were Jews. Throughout the NT we read about Jesus praying to and worshipping his God. The foundation of Christianity is that Jesus died on th cross and was resurrected by God after which he later ascended to heaven to be at the right hand of God(Acts 2). To Christians, this was the proof that Jesus really was the messiah. The claim of the Evangelists was not that Jesus was God Almighy. but that he was the Christ, the Son of God. It is quite anachronistic to read later Church teachings back into the NT.
I am happy for you to believe what you want to believe or not believe if that is the case. However, I would much rather that you base your beliefs on accuracte information and certainly not in anachronistic reasoning.
Attempt number Idk of asking IP to update his recommended reading list.
Also, attempt number I-forgot of asking IP to break it down funky style.
An updated google spreadsheet of books would be really nice.
@@TheDragonageorigins bro I've Been trying to find out about that for a LONG time
This is very interesting. However there are other parts of the Gospel of John where there is said about that it is not part of the original text, namely the first 11 verses of John 8, about the sinful women and whether she should have been stoned.
Imo I think they kept the story bc there’s nothing inconsistent with the rest of the gospel in that story.
That story is not found in the oldest manuscripts of John BUT is found in our earliest lectionaries. What may have happened is that it was a story passed down orally outside of The Gospel traditions and eventually placed into the lectionaries. They stuck the story of the adulteress woman where it appeared in the order of the lectionary.
@@DANtheMANofSIPAIt is likely from the gospel of Luke.
@@DANtheMANofSIPA KJ-onlyists have one valid point: Oldest is not automatically best. Untrusted copies get handled less and last longer. I can also image a scenario wherein the original writer issued a second edition after copies of the first edition had begun multiplying.
I’m not contradicting the “scholarly” position, I’m just saying the degree of certainty isn’t as high as they make it out to be.
It’s referenced in early church
Wow, great to learn about the numerical patterns in the epilogue and prologue of John!
I’m on board with the argument, but I think we should note that many scholars who reject chapter 21 also reject that the prologue is authentic to John (usually because the talk of Logos stops for the rest of the gospel).
Luckily that was not the only argument I made, and it just keeps getting more ad hoc. We have no evidence these passages are added later.
@@InspiringPhilosophy Hey will you ever respond to bad apologetics episodes 1 and 11?
The prologue sets up so many themes that are elaborated on later in the gospel. Some of them come up repeatedly.
@@InspiringPhilosophyNo evidence they weren't. We don't have as much evidence for the evolution of John as we do Luke, which we have insight into only if we conclude Marcion's text was not edited by Marcion but was in fact an archaic form of Luke.
Man your the best at debating the "corruption" of the bible
Great content brother! Thank you
Thank God for all people that build the Church. Praise be to Jesus our Lord!
Nice video, as always. Looking forward to the day your Daniel video comes out!
IP can you talk about the added parts like the sinful woman part in the gospel of John also ? Great video either way ❤
The _Pericope Adulterae_ (John 7:53-8:11) is known to be a later addition to John's Gospel. As such, the passage doesn't deserve the canonical status some people give it.
Evidence against the authenticity of the _Pericope Adulterae_ (John 7:53-8:11) is overwhelming. It:
• is absent from many early manuscripts, including P66 (2nd/3rd-century), P75, (3rd-century), Sinaiticus (4th-century), Vaticanus (4th-century);
• is marked-off and/or annotated in many _Greek_ manuscripts to indicate that it is suspect;
• has a style and vocabulary that differs from the rest of the Gospel, showing that someone else wrote it;
• interrupts the flow of the text from John 7:52 to 8:12;
• is missing from the Sahidic manuscripts and from the oldest Syriac, Georgian and Boharic manuscripts; and
• is placed after John 7:44 or John 21:25 in some manuscripts and is even found in one Lukan manuscript, after Luke 21:38.
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@@InspiringPhilosophy Keep up the good work. I would love to assist “in the background” if there’s a need - even mundane boring stuff. Let me know
Hey, I love your content and would like to request a video on whether or not Jesus existed because I still see a lot of people saying that there is no historical evidence and I think you would do a good job covering it.
Amen. ❤
It is not unusual for an author to add an epilogue after what seems like an ending, consider Peter Jackson’s “Return of the King”, Billy Crystal was right when he joked that the 11 Oscars it won was “one for every ending”, sometimes stories go on a little longer after what we think is the end
IP, thank you. Do you have one on Paul’s “lost” letter to the Laodicians?
Interesting.
Paul presumably wrote many Epistles. The ones we have are the only ones God wanted us to have
I've seen the thoery that Ephesians is a circular letter, which would have had the name of the particular city it was sent to put in, but would otherwise be identical. So that would actually be the letter to the Laodicians. I don't think it can quite be proved, but several data points fit the theory.
I originally heard it from Tom Wright. He wrote a biography of Paul, in which he talks about when and where he sent the various letters.
Glory To The Triune GOD
Hey man how much of the gospels can we get from 1st-2nd century church father writings? I am sure that most of the contested passages are mentioned. Could you make a video about that?
Good video. Have you ever made a video about the Gospel of Mark being changed?
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@@InspiringPhilosophy Hey will you ever respond to bad apologetics episode 1 and 11?
Yo IP you should make a video against the argument that the gospel of john was added because its the only book where Jesus states he is God
One of the things to remember when reading the Gospel of John, the book is not written chronologically .
IP, why don't you have a SINGLE video about John 7:53-8:11 and if it is even possible that that event historically occurred, despite the fact that the earliest evidence for it is from the 5th century?
Are you going to respond to Rationality Rules’ most recent response to you? I’d love to hear your thoughts.
You will
@@InspiringPhilosophy Hey will you ever respond to bad apologetics episode 1 and 11?
@@InspiringPhilosophy Based reply lol
3:20 496 is also a "perfect number" (the sum of its divisors add up to itself). The first 4 perfect numbers are 6, 28, 496, and 8128, and they become more rare as one goes up the scale.
Hopefully this will get YT off my butt for a while.
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Would love to see your thoughts on the debate of whether or not the second half of Mark 16 is original or not.
Hey inspiring philosophies I have a question will you make a response to rationality rules and is ridiculous video on you on history
Hey IP great vid once again. I had a thought that were adam and eve were sinners or not since your concept of adam and eve being priets being kicked out of the garden and if adam or eve looked at the other people with lust or wrath 🤔 that would help me out on my jouney 🙏
Sceptical Scholars thinking there is internal evidence in the gospels
New atheists😧
It's actually quite funny when you see an atheist YTber invite an atheist scholar for an interview and the atheist scholar is useing the bible as part of their argumentation.
As their audience realises . (or perhaps they don't)
Atheists have said we can't use the bible as a source for anything. It's ' not evidence'
And then you watch that same atheist evolve and then start useing the bible
This shift is noticeable if you have watched any yt atheist channel that has invited atheist scholars on for some time .
@@ramadadiver7810wait that's actually so true..
@SIXER_8
Or you'll notice paulogia doesn't use the ' because the bible told me so ' jingle as much anymore . Because he's invited atheist scholars who use the bible as part of their theories.
@ramadadiver7810 i mean, if they are trying to use the bible to determine if something is biblically accurate, then thats fine? What alternative methods are they even supposed to use in a biblical debate? The Quran wouldn't really make sense there, would it? It depends on what they are trying to use the evidence for. Using the bible as evidence to determine if something is biblical is only logical. Now, using the bible to determine if something is historically accurate is another thing. The bible, like any other body of evidence; is accurate and appropriate for certain things and inappropriate and innacurate for others. Saying the bible is or isn't (reliable) evidence without specifying all of the nuance is an inaccurate oversimplification.
It's not about determining biblical accuracy but historicity .
Atheist new testament scholars use the bible to create a theory that they consider to be historical when it comes to the rise of Christianity and things associated with Christianity
i have a question about the prologue of john and genesis
the prologue of john starts with "in the beginning" while popular translations of genesis render prologue of genesis to be "in the beginning" as well
however as you mentioned in your genesis series, the prologue in genesis could also be translated as "when God created"
so does this really affect anything?? like john as a jew and his ability to translate hebrew
IP what are you gonna do once you’ve covered every possible topic there is to cover(as far as biblical/theological stuff are concerned)?
@Inspiringphilosophy Hey will you ever respond to Bad apologetics episode 1 and 11?
Can you make a video on Luke 1-2 being "added"?
From what I've read, I always understood that the gospel was written by John on the request of the elders of the church in Ephesus and that they acted as a team in support of him. Such is not unusual for ancient authors and I've used it myself. I'd write the chapters and then position and weave them together.
Perhaps John died after chapters 1-20 and 21 had been written but not integrated together. Rather than doing that afterwards, which would have been impertinent, they simply published what they had unintegrated.
The Bodmer papyrus from 150-200 AD has John 21 in it
IP can you do one about the gnostics and why they're not included in the bible?
IP, rationality rules has responded to the vid where you responded to Paulg..( Idk his name) are you gonna respond to that?
IP, can you do for Luke 1-2?
I talked about that in my video on Luke: ruclips.net/video/wE-4f7OkDsg/видео.html
@@InspiringPhilosophy Hey will you ever respond to bad apologetics episode 1 and 11?
Sorry if I miss this, but I am trying to understand how do we reconcile John 21:24. Is this someone from the johannine community who added this?
Michael Jones can you do a video on this book God is on trial it talks about how religion keeps humanity under mind, control, and fear
While he doesn’t have a video directly about that book, he has playlist on the benefits of Christianity which will probably address points raised in that book
I would be interested to know whether the _Gospel of John_ and the _Book of Revelation_ are from the same author. Could you make a video about that?
Could you make a video on the prophecies in the Bible? Specificity the ones in Isaiah related to Cyrus the great.
If proven true, it could be one of the greatest arguments for the Bible imo.
Michael Jones can you do a video responding to a documentary of the creation of Christianity this documentary claimed that there was no Christianity pre-Constantine
I was just reading John 5:4 lol
Will you respond to rationality roules
Short answer : yes
Hey ip can cover the claim of the story of the adulterous women being added later
Can you respond to "The Myth Of The Christian Trinity"
he has already
53 SECONDS
Huh?
@@InspiringPhilosophy Hi IP! ❤
. I think he means he was here within 53 minutes of the publication of this video.
@@niccolopaganini1782 do you mean seconds
@@InspiringPhilosophy im 53 seconds early ahahah!!!! probably.
God bless you!
I have a question about Christmas: was it related to the Roman celebration of Saturn. I don't mean Christmas is about a false God but was the celebration itself based off of the Saturn celebration. Also I don't know if you have heard but I seen a video of a speculated confirmed birth of Jesus based off of the witnesses of ancient Chinese astronomers
John is legit!
When you can do a video on mark 16:9-20.
All believers have peace if they are obedient. All people who work against God are recorded. They will never stop God and they are frustrated the burden of proof is on them, and they will never be able to prove God does not exist. But, he can prove to them he exists. But it would be difficult to watch.
hi ip, i’m doubting my faith a bit and im just wondering why you’re christian and the best evidences of christianity
@@COOlguy-ed5bq What is making you doubt?
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Jesus loves you all! Repent and give your lives to Christ before it’s too late!
Was The Gospel of John Changed? Of Course It Was! By John Himself!
Why would John hide an addedum?
Mark does not (longer ending).
Just saying the gospel authors never made any attempt to hide stuff or deceive their audiences (John clearly states Peter's death thus not hiding it was written aftwards).
The Catholic Church can recognize some editions later, but by the same author.
What about story of adoulterous woman? Some say it is not originaly in Bible.
Read up on that one. There are many ways to account for that pericope.
I would check out Sentinel apologetics Q&A 24 at 57:24 he goes into a very thorough explanation.
Wow,I just heard a little numerology in there,like i tell peole...the Bible is riddled with things about astrology,numerology, and all kinds of divination
You know. It seems like Christianity is plagued with......Christians...lol. i wrote this to someone a while back. I wonder how many Christians will say i am wrong in part. Or whole😂
1. Based on the overall work of the bible, God/Jesus/Holy Spirit is our father, savior, and guide. Through mankind's time on the earth, God has given us the perfect example to follow for everything, but I am focusing on just the following. As a father, we know our children. We know what they will do in any given situation. We'll, we do get surprised sometimes. God doesn't. We give our children instruction, as God has throughout human history, to us. We punish, we show grace, we teach, we love. We allow them to make their own choices again. We repeat this until they are what they should be, according to God's word.
2. Jesus Christ is available to everyone on earth as the one and only savior.
Sometimes, as above, it can take a while. Sometimes, we reject God even when we know all of this. We are God's children, and God wants us to come to him. He teaches us, lets us make the decision, punishes us, shows us grace, mercy and forgiveness. Then has us start again. It is God's DESIRE that all should come to him.
3. I trust and believe that God guards his word. Meaning that, when translated to any language, he guides the hand of man.
I still search for context and more complex Meaning if the language it was translated from has expanded context and is more full relative to the English version.
4. And my last belief? God as a father has loved me and instructed me, punished me, taught me again, showed me mercy by fully forgiving me. Everything I have is from God, God has shown me that his instruction, punishment and love are all perfect. He goes through this cycle with human beings as a whole and individually. I, having experienced this, come to understand that Jesus is it. No matter what I do as God's child, he will keep at me, Jesus will still be there, the Holy Spirit still guides me. God has done a work, by allowing me the ability to accept his salvation.
That's it.
Everything else is what his word says. I don't even have to think about belief. Belief is not even involved. It just is.
God bless 🙌
God would never allowed his Message to be lost.
@@skywishr1313 Do you even know how the Bible you have today got there?
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Yea far better than most ancient sources
It was safeguarded by the the catholic church for 2000 years and was read every mass so any changes would of been noticed by the people same today yesterday and forever@@davemillsap647
@@ramadadiver7810 you either don't actually know how the Canon was established or have a rather naive view of what God would or would not "allow" to happen to "his message".
@@davemillsap647 I do know how the cannon was formed . I
I can track the deity incarnation human death physical resurection of jesus back to the earliest Christian sources .
The most basic fundamentals have been preserved but so have 99.9% of the original within our copies
The 496 thing seems like a stretch…
Bauckham's argument that he is pulling from goes even deeper :D
@@Greyz174 I admit I’m not familiar with Bauckham’s full argument. But the idea that John calculated the numerical value of the word “only” and counted the number of syllables as he was writing the prologue just seems highly implausible to me.
@@oliveblake8154 well, it's "only begotten" (monogenes/μονογενες) which is more poetic/significant than "only" and its definitely not impossible that someone decided to do stuff like this, but the problem is more about how you can know they actually meant to so that, since the 14/14/14 example in Matthew is known because he says that's what he is doing so we definitely know that we arent just reading the pattern into the data
Probably not something to make strong conclusions on such that other things have to accommodate it. He even says that this can (cautiously) be used to determine which textual variants are original, if the variant matches some syllable count, which is probably a bit much.
@@Greyz174 “Only begotten” slightly increases the plausibility, but it still seems like grasping at straws. As a general principle, I don’t think we should assume an author is using gematria unless we’re explicitly told (like Matthew’s 14-14-14 pattern or Revelation’s 666). You can use gematria to come to any conclusion you wish to find, so I don’t find it to be a helpful tool in determining authorial intent.
John was also an illiterate fisherman. So that further decreases the plausibility of all this.
Hey IP Rationality Rules did a video Criticizing you and Dr. Falk and the Exodus and Joshuas Conquest will you do a response vid?
We already know and yes, they made more errors and don’t even realize it.
@@InspiringPhilosophy glad to hear my troops are winning
@@InspiringPhilosophy ok, I know its stressful having to deal with stuff like this which I see happens to you quite a bit, just know that we appreciate what you do.
@@InspiringPhilosophy
You are doing something right that's for sure . The atheist community pretty much needs to bring on a scholar everytime they want to respond to you .
Very telling 😉
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Found this documentary and thought of you. It’s a JW production about how Christmas is pagan. Maybe a longer video with apologetic roadshow? Merry Christmas
Hey Michael Jones, how would you respond to the scholarly book post it in 2015 the myth of persecution this book was written by a new testament scholar name, Canada moss this book makes the claim that the martyrdom of christians never never happen
Hey IP, can you make a video on the LXX?
In my personal study I have found the LXX to be inaccurate (I am a native speaker and writer of hebrew). Scholars have also concurred with the translator being ignorant of hebrew idioms, Daniel being from the Herplexia ect. This presents serious theological problems. For example, all church fathers teaching post-Saint Jerome is incorrect but I could even further assert that it is all false as it stems from the church fathers were in error. This also challenges Jesus in the OT, Mary in the OT, and more. It's disastrous. I have my full argument but I won't post it here as it is long. If you would like to reach out my Instagram user is identical to a RUclips user but without the numbers on the end.
Thank you, Max
Only in gospel of John did it mentioned TRYING to claim Jesus as God. Previous gospels didn't. Sorry but its too late
What do you make of Religion For Breakfast?
These “apologists” just can’t seem to grasp that ancient stories are NOT necessarily Fact, and is dubious at best. So either they Don’t understand reliable evidence or they choose to perpetuate things that can’t be proven true. The are “cafeterians” selecting biblical passages, embellishing them & passing them off as “proof”, when they in fact seem to have little idea of what proof actually constitutes.
Hey hope you are well! How is he picking and chosing from the Bible to prove his point and can you show me bible verses that condradict the point he is making?
Nice… first of all I Don’t hold a degree in theology or “biblical studies”. Having said that I don’t need one to add 2+2 to get 4.
What I DO know is ALL humans are Fallible beings & historically have had a vivid imagination, feelings of despair & hopelessness, etc and so will grasp at any straws in order to assuage their fears & insecurities. even without ANY independent physical evidence. Whatever nonsense helps them feel better they’ll turn fantasy into reality.
In fact even ancient “sun (not son) worshipers” were closer to the facts concerning the formation of this universe than modern-day Jews, Christians & Muslims.
@@msmd3295Ok...but that didn't answer my question one bit.
And again Jesus was a real person who walked on Earth. What physical proof would have convinced you? Because there are people like Richard Dawkings that can never ever be convinced no matter what. Again thanks hope you are well.
@@msmd3295I believe that all the scientific advancements we have made from the foundations of Christianity, that if God has given mankind laws to obey and follow then he would have made laws for the whole universe as well and we can find it.
Your problem is you accept the Bible at face value with little to no scrutiny. I don’t rely on the Bible because it’s written by FALLIBLE beings. And according to the Bible Jesus never wrote any of it. They are hearsay testimonials on the part of his followers. So the Bible is just as unreliable as spiritualists, mysticists, and just plain liars trying to keep their faith (belief Without evidence) are today !!
I & academic biblical “scholars” largely agree there was a Jewish rabbi named Jesus. But that’s far from being a supernatural entity.
As a result I don’t rely strictly upon biblical passages for facts. Just as one example of the Old Testament… the story of Jericho being conquered by Joshua. Unfortunately, archaeologists & having located what they believe to have been that ancient town based upon archaeological data believe that town was in fact abandoned 100 years before Joshua.
Here's a powerful thought, that I don't think many apologists and those that learn from apologists, have considered -- A Jewish Rabbi is the last place to learn problems that prove Judaism false, A Muslim Imam is the last place to learn problems that prove Islam false -- So it follows a Christian pastor, Christian apologist, Christian leader is the last place to learn problems that prove Christianity false. If you want to know if your beliefs have good evidence, after you grew up listening to Christian teachers primarily, you should now spend an equal amount of time LISTENING to those who DON'T believe. You can start with the channels Paulogia and TMM on RUclips.
Paulogia isn't always accurate and shows far more skepticism in his videos than research. I'd recommend reading commentaries from biblical scholars, historians, and reading different perspectives altogether. Helps to broaden your critical thinking with different arguments.
@@ac_nerd9794 Okay.
People like Paulogia and Bart Ehrman, who misrepresent what the Bible says, who portray complementary accounts of events and conflicting accounts, and who ignore sound scholarship that has already addressed the other claims they make against Christianity don't prove Christianity false. All they do is reveal their own prejudices and willingness to deceive.
@@Mathetes1 How do *you* tell an honesty mistake from Paulogia and Ehrman from deliberate deception?
@@calmingwavesjulian You're kidding, right?
Ehrman has an MDiv and a PhD from Princeton Theological Seminary. He has written and edited at least 30 books, mostly focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth. His academic and populist works are worlds apart. He'd be laughed out of academia if he tried to pass off his populist attacks on Christianity there as serious scholarship.
As for Paulogia, his misrepresentations have been pointed out to him innumerable times - with debunking evidence - but he persists with them.
Quickest way to figure out your religion is not true: The woman taken in adultery story in John was not written by John-- but it made its way into scripture, is this part of John's Gospel, INSPIRED by God? If not, why did God let it slip in. If God lets UNINSPIRED pieces in his Holy Word, what evidence do we have that any Gospel, or letter from James, Peter or Paul is INSPIRED by God. Listen carefully, I'm saying even if all parts of the Gospels are authentic. even if Paul wrote every letter we have from him-- it doesn't mean God is behind them. And, would a God deny me eternal life because my logic says I should not trust the scriptures, or will a Good God damn me after creating me with a brain dumb enough to make a mistake?
There are good arguments that the woman taken in adultery story was written by John and belongs in John's gospel.
Perhaps more importantly, even if it were something that didn't get written by the original author, (1) it doesn't matter, as the story doesn't deviate from the facts and theology presented by the rest of the New Testament, and (2) God could just as easily have inspired the history of copying as the original author, to make sure we received a book he was happy with.
@@ancalagonyt Okay. But, it's blind faith to think well it's in the Bible, God must have wanted it. Like saying God hasn't destroyed the Mormon church, he must want it to exist. I don't want to live my life under a religion that requires blind faith.
Also, without this story in John, why can't a Christian today stone an adulterous woman?
@@calmingwavesjulian "Blind faith" is a caricature of Christianity. Faith is not blind, or at least it shouldn't be. Not sure why you brought that up.
The story, even if it wasn't original to John, would apply. As I mentioned before, someone could think that the story wasn't original, but was inspired anyway. But even if it was neither original nor inspired, it's very likely to be a historically accurate story about Jesus.
And even if it were none of these things, the story sounds very much like something Jesus would do, and we know it's something he would do because we can read the rest of the unambiguously inspired and original gospels.
On top of that, we'd have no reason to do such a thing in the first place.
@@ancalagonyt Okay, good thinking except, you say "the story sounds very much like something Jesus would do, and we know it's something he would do because we can read the rest of the unambiguously inspired and original gospels". HOW do you KNOW the rest of the Gospels are inspired? How do you know Paul's letters are inspired?
Bonus: Wait....how do you know this story in John is "historically accurate"?
So basically, everything should be perfect or God doesn’t exist? Right?
So it mean that the book of Jhon has not written by the disciple of Jesus because according to the bible jhone the disciple was illiterate and unlearned man.
Ever heard of dictation?
Paul dictated most of his letters, he did not personally write them with his own hands.
By the time Johnwas written, John was old and had quite a following, more than enough to have anyone write down his recollections...
can you please go on my show?