Charlamange wasn’t in New York in the 90s he was in Moncks Corner according to Shook Ones it’s wild arguing over actually being there. Andrew is speaking from experience
Wu tangs influence is undeniable they created culture - hoodies , timberlands and Clarks made huge inroads due to Wu tangs stylistic and musical influence . I'm the same age as shultz and can't believe he was not aware of Wu tangs rise. Even as 10 and 11 year olds we were all into wu tang . Their influence goes beyond music . They also were the first group to really start branding into fashion (Wu wear) ,
As an outsider, it's kinda sad to hear New Yorkers say this stuff about Wu Tang. It's like going to the south and hearing southerns say Outkast was just for the suburbs.
The second he said: "Method Man is not in Wu-Tang" he completely discredited himself. He continued to discredit himself when he revealed that he wasn't even aware that Wu-Tang and Dipset came from 2 different eras. LMAO
I’m 42 and from NYC Wu was HUGE here. Andrew doesn’t seem to be that into hiphop regardless of talking Ebonics plus he was like 10,11 years old when WU blew so that’s slightly before his time
I think you made his point when you said WAS. I’m not as old as you so I think my generation appreciates more the 2000s sound of Dipset, Lox and Gunit. I think now and days people put them as the OG NY group.
@@TheShop90sKids and im from queens, I love Wu Tang, Mobb Deep and Boot camp. those are my favoirte crews. ofcourse im an 80s child. and I LOVE Rakim, LL cool J, Krs one.. This 20-30 year old age group of today really believe ONLY THEIR TIME existed?
Wu was more impactful because at a time when the mainstream was being taken over by the west with it's nostalgic 70's sound that felt familiar and was thus more easily marketable.....Wu came with original GRITTY hard beats and different styles and brought life to the NYC hip hop scene. Nas was putting on his work, BIG came along shortly thereafter, but when it felt like the east was being nudged out of our top spot WU came through and reminded EVERYBODY where the art originated....Protect Ya fuckin' Neck
Thank you somebody finally said it, for some reason a lot of these people gloss over The Wu movement, and immediately give Big all the credit for bringing the East Coast back, when Wu had already dropped 36 Chambers 🤦🏾♂️
Wu Tang built the basis for real rap music. It helps many industries survive and thrive. These were the fella that helped build the 90's and 2000's as well as Nasty NAS.
Andrew wasnt old enough to witness Wu’s reign to even have an opinion on this… Wu was just as big as Biggie/Bad Boy in that era, Wu’s HEIGHT as a group was from ‘93 - ‘99, after that their impact drizzled off & it became more about the individual members
Wu-Tang and Migos don’t belong in the same stratosphere. Migos have some solid records but Wu-Tang has at least 4-5 classic Concept Albums. They’re the Pink Floyd of Hip Hop.
this is a dumb generational convo.... if u were between 14-25 when Enter the 36 Chambers came out, u never had any doubt how NY and how impactful Wu-Tang was
You can't compare eras. Hip-hop is young. We still have some of the founders alive today. That can't be said about most big genres. Nothing like how Hip-Hop became so mainstream that it's basically dominating in pop. They are pop, for some artists, obviously. But that's the reach it has had. Hip-Hop was still growing in the 80s and early 90s. Mid-late 90s it blew up massively. You had collabs with pop artists more than ever, which says a lot. You saw massive sales, radio plays, music videos, lots of money. That didn't exist on that level before the mid 90s. No where near the same. The contracts were different when you go back. So many got screwed. Once they managed to start getting slightly better deals (still meant you owed a lot back despite receiving advances)
Not NYC related, but for any Hip Hop head living west of St. Louis, Bone Thugs N Harmony was the biggest rap group back in those days. And if OutKast and Wu- Tang are #1 and #2 Bone gotta be #3
Shoutout to Carlos from Classic Material NY, that Mobb Deep Mics shirt is his creation. I spoke to him about it once because The Source retroactively gave The Infamous 5 Mics. What kept me from buying the shirt was that it shows the OG rating of 4.5 Mics. I did buy his Nas- Illmatic hoody with 5 Mics. Same colors.
Diddy did own a lot of airplay in the back half of the 90s but aside from Biggie he didn’t represent the rugged boom bap sound that defined the decade from 93 on. Wu, Nas, Jay, Biggie, Tribe, Gang Starr, Redman, Fat Joe, The Roots, Fugees, Mobb Deep all got more respect than 90% of what Diddy had on commercial radio for the true Hip-Hop heads.
ive lived in Queens all my life.. during the 90s, your're guna tell me ppl wasnt rocking with Wu Tang in NYC? lol. Dipset, G unit, th'ats commercialized rap crap
Fat Joe early 90s and still relevant in hip hop, Big L, KRS One, Lox, LL was still dropping shit, NAS by far had an impact at that time. Illmatic was bonkers, his story telling was bars and bars above. Big L was a beast. I can’t say who was more impactful, but these are names to consider and it depended on where you was from in my opinion.
Wu Tang, Boot Camp, Gangstarr, Mobb Deep.. these were my favorite things.. Im from queens.. you 20 year olds really believe that ONLY your time period exists?
New Yorkers lessen wu tang in these conversations cause it's Staten Island based. Had wutang been from any of the respected hip hop Burroughs then they would think differently than Shultz opinion
I grew up listening to Dipset but once I went and listened to Wu’s discography, collectively and individually, there was only one winner. Wu were more talented, creative and impactful than Dipset. Wu transcended hip-hop. Maybe the hood f’d with Dipset more but overall no rap group is touching Wu. The Lox beat Dipset in a versus but you know if they had gone up against the Wu it would have been a different story entirely.
They keep saying Juicy but Juicy wasn't even the best song on the Ready to die album. But Ready to die was better than 36 chambers but CREAM was probably the best song from out of all the songs on those albums.
NY NATIVE HERE. Wu was impactful but BIGGIE was WAY MORE impactful. Charla and that chicks points were all trash & their rebuttals made no sense. Just because g unit, biggie and them came after they’re dismissed? Biggie had I LOVE IT WHEN YOU CALL ME BIG POPPA !!! Jay z made everyone fall in love with NY and proud. Yankee fitted was the NY uniform. Schulz is right about the suburban kids. Don’t even let me get started with DMX, Terror squad & G UNIT. Please refrain from speaking on behalf of a city you’re not even from. Thank you :)
Idk, weird but I’m going to go with the NYers on the show on what was and is popping in NY. I live in Canada and grew up outside of Toronto. I can TOTALLY see what they saying about Wu being globally popular but necessarily resonating in the city. Especially since everyone I know who loves Wu-tang is suburban and white.😅 Also, people who aren’t from that city need to stop telling people from that city how they should feel about it. Prime example non-Raptors fans and non-Canadians telling me that Vince is the greatest Raptor not knowing we don’t fuck with that guy like that! “He put you on the map!” Bitch, we been on the map sorry you never looked. Sorry went on a tangent had to get that off my chest.
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Arguing with New Yorkers about New York impact being from the south is hilarious 😂😂😂
Not really. Yall stole our style for 20 years.
Charlamange wasn’t in New York in the 90s he was in Moncks Corner according to Shook Ones it’s wild arguing over actually being there. Andrew is speaking from experience
True. I know nothing about New York
@@Marcustrh sounds like the others weren't old enough to remember.
Wutang was everything in the 90s in NY
Wu tangs influence is undeniable they created culture - hoodies , timberlands and Clarks made huge inroads due to Wu tangs stylistic and musical influence . I'm the same age as shultz and can't believe he was not aware of Wu tangs rise. Even as 10 and 11 year olds we were all into wu tang . Their influence goes beyond music . They also were the first group to really start branding into fashion (Wu wear) ,
Says someone who isn't from New york
The disrespect to the WU is disgusting! Music heads know wu is the greatest hip hop group ever!!!!!!
As an outsider, it's kinda sad to hear New Yorkers say this stuff about Wu Tang. It's like going to the south and hearing southerns say Outkast was just for the suburbs.
Biggie literally quoted C.R.E.A.M on notorious thugs LOL I'm with Charla
The second he said: "Method Man is not in Wu-Tang" he completely discredited himself. He continued to discredit himself when he revealed that he wasn't even aware that Wu-Tang and Dipset came from 2 different eras. LMAO
Lmao enter the wu tang came out like a decade before dipset first joint lmao, shultz is buggin
Wu tang forever coming out in 1997. The lead up was amazing
Salute the WU FOREVER
Wu is the most globally impactful NY group ever. Drake made a song call Wutang Forever.
He is bugging wu tang clan is the best rap group of all time 💯💯💯
I’m 42 and from NYC Wu was HUGE here. Andrew doesn’t seem to be that into hiphop regardless of talking Ebonics plus he was like 10,11 years old when WU blew so that’s slightly before his time
I think you made his point when you said WAS. I’m not as old as you so I think my generation appreciates more the 2000s sound of Dipset, Lox and Gunit. I think now and days people put them as the OG NY group.
@@TheShop90sKids well than he SHOULDNT be talking about things he DOESNT know about..
@@TheShop90sKids and im from queens, I love Wu Tang, Mobb Deep and Boot camp. those are my favoirte crews. ofcourse im an 80s child. and I LOVE Rakim, LL cool J, Krs one.. This 20-30 year old age group of today really believe ONLY THEIR TIME existed?
@@TheShop90sKids ya if he wasn't around for Wu tangs impact how would he know?
Andrew Schultz looks like he a sinatra fan who gives a fuck what he says about wu
This segment makes me cry....those were the times. What happened to the intellect of society 🤦🏾♂️
Andrew knows nothing about hip hop music. He should stop talking.
I don't know about NY, but as someone living in the Caribbean, I can tell you that Mobb Deep and Dipset's influence isn't remotely close to Wu-Tang!
Wu was more impactful because at a time when the mainstream was being taken over by the west with it's nostalgic 70's sound that felt familiar and was thus more easily marketable.....Wu came with original GRITTY hard beats and different styles and brought life to the NYC hip hop scene. Nas was putting on his work, BIG came along shortly thereafter, but when it felt like the east was being nudged out of our top spot WU came through and reminded EVERYBODY where the art originated....Protect Ya fuckin' Neck
Thank you somebody finally said it, for some reason a lot of these people gloss over The Wu movement, and immediately give Big all the credit for bringing the East Coast back, when Wu had already dropped 36 Chambers 🤦🏾♂️
Did dude just say NY don’t fucks with WU lmao
He done lost his damn mind
Wu Tang built the basis for real rap music. It helps many industries survive and thrive. These were the fella that helped build the 90's and 2000's as well as Nasty NAS.
Andrew wasnt old enough to witness Wu’s reign to even have an opinion on this… Wu was just as big as Biggie/Bad Boy in that era, Wu’s HEIGHT as a group was from ‘93 - ‘99, after that their impact drizzled off & it became more about the individual members
When Wu first came out, it was big in NY. But then Wu spread rapidly and their global influence was bigger than their NY influence.
WU-TANG IS FOR THE CHILDREN 😠 😠
When that triumph video dropped in 97 that was crazy.
normaly Charlamange talk lotta blabla but this time HE RIGHT WU TANG BABY!!!!!!
i'm listening to half of this clip while C.R.E.A.M. is playing
Another suburban white kid
People that don't listen to rap don't even know who dipset is. If you want to ask which has made the most impact music from new york it's not close.
Schultz has a point. We love Wu Tang but there are so many groups besides WU that we truly love
Wu-Tang and Migos don’t belong in the same stratosphere. Migos have some solid records but Wu-Tang has at least 4-5 classic Concept Albums. They’re the Pink Floyd of Hip Hop.
this is a dumb generational convo.... if u were between 14-25 when Enter the 36 Chambers came out, u never had any doubt how NY and how impactful Wu-Tang was
You can't compare eras. Hip-hop is young. We still have some of the founders alive today. That can't be said about most big genres. Nothing like how Hip-Hop became so mainstream that it's basically dominating in pop. They are pop, for some artists, obviously. But that's the reach it has had.
Hip-Hop was still growing in the 80s and early 90s. Mid-late 90s it blew up massively. You had collabs with pop artists more than ever, which says a lot. You saw massive sales, radio plays, music videos, lots of money. That didn't exist on that level before the mid 90s. No where near the same. The contracts were different when you go back. So many got screwed. Once they managed to start getting slightly better deals (still meant you owed a lot back despite receiving advances)
Wu-Tang Forever…..
CTG is arguing with someone that pretends to know a lot about something that he obviously doesn’t know
They’re called the Brilliant IDIOTS for a reason lol
I mean I can’t argue cause I’m not from NY. But Wu Tang is the Beetles of Hip Hop
Walmart in Brooklyn
36 Chamber brought the east coast back
I agree wit Charlemagne on this. Wu had brought hip-hop back to the east from the west when they came out.
Shook Ones, and Juicey are both more impactful than CREAM! And that is not in any disrespect at all.
I rarely agree with charlamagne. Here i do. Dipset aint even in the same convo as Wu. These ppl are lost
The Wu made New York rap relevant again. Before them rap was slipping in that part of country. Put some respek boys name
WU TANG FOREVER
Not NYC related, but for any Hip Hop head living west of St. Louis, Bone Thugs N Harmony was the biggest rap group back in those days. And if OutKast and Wu- Tang are #1 and #2 Bone gotta be #3
Schulz wildin
I live in NY. WuTang was a movement like Dipset but even stronger
I'm not from NY but I've always prefered Mobb Deep
Wu-Tang the best Hip Hop group EVER! Outkast is # 2
I’d go Tribe #2 and Outkast #3 but it’s razor close.
The Wu and Outkast by far the most impactful groups in hip hop
You weren't around for Run DMC obviously lol
and Beastie Boys
Drake had a song called wu-tang forever
Drake has a song called Diplomatic Immunity 😎
@stacksondeck515 drake claims he violated the treaty of Versailles. This is what Hitler did to start ww2.
C.R.E.A.M was super impactful BUT Juicy is def the more impactful song
Well Cream is a better song
Cream was for the block & Juicy was for the club.
For Hip-Hop C.R.E.A.M is bigger
Wutang too spiritual for this disrespect!!! W tha god 100%
Lol dipset is being compared to wu tang.
If Drink Champs caught heat for what they said what does Andrew deserve for "Wu isn’t for New Yorkers" and "a W tat is like a Kid Rock tat"?
Charlemagne, you're arguing with kids. What do you think they are gonna say comparing Wu Tang with Juicy lol
He's not the culture, so I wouldn't expected him to kNO
W/ Charlmagne all the way
Y'all forgettin', Wu Tang Clan is for the children. Who is the DipStick? Can't believe Im agreeing with Charla.
Schultz is buggin'. also no mention of Tribe, shame.
Shoutout to Carlos from Classic Material NY, that Mobb Deep Mics shirt is his creation. I spoke to him about it once because The Source retroactively gave The Infamous 5 Mics. What kept me from buying the shirt was that it shows the OG rating of 4.5 Mics. I did buy his Nas- Illmatic hoody with 5 Mics. Same colors.
Diddy did own a lot of airplay in the back half of the 90s but aside from Biggie he didn’t represent the rugged boom bap sound that defined the decade from 93 on. Wu, Nas, Jay, Biggie, Tribe, Gang Starr, Redman, Fat Joe, The Roots, Fugees, Mobb Deep all got more respect than 90% of what Diddy had on commercial radio for the true Hip-Hop heads.
ive lived in Queens all my life.. during the 90s, your're guna tell me ppl wasnt rocking with Wu Tang in NYC? lol. Dipset, G unit, th'ats commercialized rap crap
Wu Tang was for NYC when their first album dropped. Then they started being more global. He is kinda right
They ever talk about Tribe?
She's Right CREAM was and still is a banger
Bro bro started singing Kenny Rodgers
Schultz is wrong on impact Wutang 🌍 wide recognition is not comparable
SMH! Shultz u buggin my nigga ! Knock it off plz
How u arguing with New Yorkers about wu thang
I can never agree with Al with anything on any of these pods lol
CREAM more impactful than Juicy????? Hell noooooo..... I was on Charlamagne's side until he said that
New York does have a Walmart tf they talking bout!!!
"The 90s was all Puffy" OK, kid. Lol
I guess schultz didnt live in NY from 92 to 97
Schultz ain’t tell one lie. They go up for different members, but they don’t go up for the group.
He did tho 😭
Oh ya because people weren’t calling the radio station to play wu tang in New York lmao
I'd like to argue but it was a bunch of suburban white kids that showed me Wu Tang. Same with Gangstarr. Capone and Noriega deserved a mention though
Cam’ron once said Ghost is his fave rapper
Please remember Shultz has admitted he dont even listen to rap
Lol did he really say that?
Big pun’s best album capital punishment came out I think in 96. They were wrong on that
98*
Fat Joe early 90s and still relevant in hip hop, Big L, KRS One, Lox, LL was still dropping shit, NAS by far had an impact at that time. Illmatic was bonkers, his story telling was bars and bars above. Big L was a beast. I can’t say who was more impactful, but these are names to consider and it depended on where you was from in my opinion.
She right about Migos
I somehow get what Schultz is saying... and God how I love the Wu!
CREAM > JUICY
Dipset more impactful than Wu? Nah man, he buggin..
Wu Tang, Boot Camp, Gangstarr, Mobb Deep.. these were my favorite things.. Im from queens.. you 20 year olds really believe that ONLY your time period exists?
WUTANG IS THE BEST AND MOST INFLUENTIAL HIP-HOP OF ALL TIME HANDS DOWN THOSE WEIRDO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIP-HOP SALUTE TO CHARLEMAGNE
NY Drill is literally just UK Drill with a NYC accent.
I like NY Drill btw I’m just saying it isn’t anything new.
And worst beats
These two clowns hating on Wu tang 😂
I love Wu Tang but when I think "New York hip hop", it's either Onyx or Lost Boyz for me.
New Yorkers lessen wu tang in these conversations cause it's Staten Island based. Had wutang been from any of the respected hip hop Burroughs then they would think differently than Shultz opinion
Seriously some of the worst opinions ever given on anything. Dipset over Wu Tang?? 😂😂😂😂😂
I grew up listening to Dipset but once I went and listened to Wu’s discography, collectively and individually, there was only one winner. Wu were more talented, creative and impactful than Dipset. Wu transcended hip-hop. Maybe the hood f’d with Dipset more but overall no rap group is touching Wu. The Lox beat Dipset in a versus but you know if they had gone up against the Wu it would have been a different story entirely.
They keep saying Juicy but Juicy wasn't even the best song on the Ready to die album. But Ready to die was better than 36 chambers but CREAM was probably the best song from out of all the songs on those albums.
I’m surprised they didn’t say All About The Benjamins over CREAM
Drake and WU AINT EVEN IN THE SAME TIER TF U MEAN SON!
WuTang/Cream is way more impactful Andrew is completely wrong.
Ron dmc was a group? I thought it was a person 😆
he should be disqualified from talking about the culture smfh
I got shook ones by mobb deep and Ny state of mind by Nas over both of those 🤔
NY NATIVE HERE. Wu was impactful but BIGGIE was WAY MORE impactful. Charla and that chicks points were all trash & their rebuttals made no sense. Just because g unit, biggie and them came after they’re dismissed? Biggie had I LOVE IT WHEN YOU CALL ME BIG POPPA !!! Jay z made everyone fall in love with NY and proud. Yankee fitted was the NY uniform. Schulz is right about the suburban kids. Don’t even let me get started with DMX, Terror squad & G UNIT. Please refrain from speaking on behalf of a city you’re not even from. Thank you :)
Remember that time drake put out a song called Dip Set Forever?
Schulz tripping.
Where is WAX lately??? Anyone know
THERE IS NOT A MORE IMPACTFUL GROUP IN MUSIC BESIDES KISS AND METALLICA THAN WU TANG WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
an opinion isnt disrespect.
A bad one is
@@officialzacht no since thats your opinion of said opinion and so on. if you think so you dont know what respect is.
@@KarlAKarl no you can have an opinion it’s just not a good one which is fine
@@officialzacht still not disrespect.
Idk, weird but I’m going to go with the NYers on the show on what was and is popping in NY. I live in Canada and grew up outside of Toronto. I can TOTALLY see what they saying about Wu being globally popular but necessarily resonating in the city. Especially since everyone I know who loves Wu-tang is suburban and white.😅 Also, people who aren’t from that city need to stop telling people from that city how they should feel about it. Prime example non-Raptors fans and non-Canadians telling me that Vince is the greatest Raptor not knowing we don’t fuck with that guy like that! “He put you on the map!” Bitch, we been on the map sorry you never looked. Sorry went on a tangent had to get that off my chest.